Originally Posted By: Peally


I would disagree that defensive wars aren't noble. There isn't anything much more noble than attempting to defend your family, land, and friends against a large hostile aggressor. The overarching principles are admirable, even though the actual fighting won't exactly be pleasant. The french resistance did nothing short of miracle work, even though it involved killing as many Nazi party members as possible (yep, I just brought Godwin's law into the fray biggrin )



Nobility and necessity aren't the same thing- it's necessary to defend oneself, in and of itself, nobility is something else, it represents an ideal. That comes from the past, and typically from the Romantic age, in fact, in order to understand the basis for Nazism, one should understand idealists like Fichte and the Romantic age of writers who looked to the past- kingdoms, simple peasant life, rolling countrysides with castles and held that in esteem over the modern age. As an ideal, that doesn't really compare to industrial scale warfare. It's portraying something in quaint terms when the reality of it doesn't resemble that at all.

Look at the current civil war in Syria- whomever is defending themselves in that war, whatever case is made for the "defender", they die and look just as mangled and anonymous in death as the "aggressor", or like any other combatant in any other war.






No one gets out of here alive.