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#4583665 - 10/26/21 03:16 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Crane Hunter]  
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Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
Methinks this Gutierrez-Reed wench should have stuck to making Antifa porn.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...illed-cinematographer-pictured-home.html


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Zak Knight, a pyrotechnic and special effects engineer who is a member of Local 44, told DailyMail.com on Friday that Hutchins' death was caused by a 'cascade of failures' by multiple people: 'There should have never been live rounds on a movie set, that's number one. Number two is every single person on a movie set has a right to inspect a weapon before it's fired. And number three is, there is no reason to ever put a person in front of a weapon that's firing.


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#4583667 - 10/26/21 03:49 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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I take one look at her pictures and know she’s not who I would want managing firearms.


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#4583675 - 10/26/21 05:24 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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This story gets stranger and stranger by the minute.


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#4583682 - 10/26/21 06:01 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: oldgrognard]  
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Originally Posted by oldgrognard
I take one look at her pictures and know she’s not who I would want managing firearms.


looking her previous pictures, she can still be salvaged to handle my firearm.
but jesus hwat a transition

#4583691 - 10/26/21 08:14 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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First of all, let me say that I have been a prop master for numerous TV shows and film for over 30 years.
There is so much gross negligence and incompetence to go around with this. First off, the assistant director has no business ever picking up or handling a firearm, let alone handing it off to an actor… this alone is a major violation. The weapon is always examined, verified and managed by the prop master and/or armorer under extremely strict safety measures.

The fact that there were live rounds on set and the firearm was used the morning of for plinking or target practice by some of the crew members is unfathomable. How this was allowed to happen is something that will be investigated to the fullest. This absolutely starts from the top with production creating an extremely reckless environment with complete disregard for the safety and wellbeing of the crew. The production, producers and several crew members that were allowed to disregard the extremely strict safety measures put into place to prevent this type of scenario from happening will all share responsibility in the end.

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#4583700 - 10/26/21 09:40 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Assistant director had been sacked before over gun safety.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59055138


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#4583714 - 10/27/21 03:17 AM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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#4583715 - 10/27/21 03:39 AM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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She should be held on 1st degree murder charges after setting him up for this.

Baldwin is an idiot gun handler to show it.Never checking first.


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#4583718 - 10/27/21 06:31 AM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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I have always been taught as a part of very basic firearms safety NEVER to assume a gun is unloaded, even though you’re handed one by someone qualified who says it is. Check it yourself! Yes, the routines are boring and it seems superfluous to check the same gun two or three times innthe space of a minute if it changes hands, but it really would have saved the day here.


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#4583739 - 10/27/21 04:18 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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A number of actors insisted that the proper procedure for handling firearms on set is to personally check the gun, regardless of whether the AD calls out “cold gun.” Also, the proper method of shooting on a set is to use a “dummy point” according to other reports, waiting until the crew and other cast members clear the background before operating the firearm, “cold” or not. A gun is never fired at a person, not even a so-called “prop gun,” according to film experts talking to other media outlets. If that’s the case, then Baldwin has another vector of potential criminal liability.


More public statements of the "common sense" rules that we've already "discussed" in this thread.

But, it is true that some folks who have not been trained in safe firearms handling procedures, might tend to think unwavering adherence to some of these rules represents "overkill" in some situations -- no, they prevent avoidable accidental "deaths" and lesser "wounds".


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#4583745 - 10/27/21 04:56 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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'You just blew my f**king eardrums out!' Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed 'discharged weapons without warning and infuriated star Nicolas Cage' on her previous film

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-film-infuriated-star-Nicolas-Cage.html

#4583752 - 10/27/21 05:49 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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I wonder what her "credentials" were that showed a working knowledge of fire arms and fire arms safety. I'll wait.....


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#4583754 - 10/27/21 06:23 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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I'll be surprised if it was ever more than, woke, cheap and the daughter of someone who was good at it.

This girl was, like, clearly in over her head, and like, said so.


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#4583757 - 10/27/21 06:56 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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The hypocrisy of most of Hollywood stars including Alec Baldwin is..."I'm against the NRA and guns in general...UNLESS I can make millions of dollars showing me killing folks with them on screen"

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The whole industry has made BILLIONS in the last fifty years making movies that use fantasy gun violence to convey vicarious empowerment to their audience. It has been a main staple in just about every movie made. The video game industry has too. The fact that they do this is not the problem. It is their galling hypocrisy about guns that they are constantly virtue signaling that is the issue.


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#4583761 - 10/27/21 07:20 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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#4583764 - 10/27/21 08:00 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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Just an Update: 16 People in the immediate area while filming or Rehearsing ( no actual film was found of the shooting )
90 to 100 people 0n the set ( still being talked to.)
3 Guns on the table for the Rehearsal 1 Plastic or Rubber, 1 with a strange looking revolver cylinder and a reproduction Colt Peacemaker in .45 Caliber Long Colt

The Police are still checking Ammo Est 500 rds on the set Mixed They think ? Dummy. Blanks, and , Live as in Real bullets
Some on the news conference also said that Charges probably will not be used against the Director ( one of the Victims }

No Charges as yet. Popular TV talk show/News people suggest As both the person and the producer / owner He might as well just Bend Over Multi Millions in law suits are headed his way.


On a different note: The Armorer should learn to Handel Other Things Clearly, shes failed at this profession
Finally, In a past Safety issue Directors have been found guilty ( they have overall authority on a set ) and Charges were brought to bare by Police.

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#4583773 - 10/27/21 10:42 PM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: Blade_RJ]  
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#4583781 - 10/28/21 09:31 AM Re: Alec Baldwin Rust movie incident [Re: DBond]  
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Originally Posted by DBond
I'll be surprised if it was ever more than, woke, cheap and the daughter of someone who was good at it.

This girl was, like, clearly in over her head, and like, said so.


Yeah, I have the same suspect: she must the daughter of someone important in Hollywood


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