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#2899202 - 11/12/09 02:45 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: jocko-]  
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I know one thing for sure, if the gimbals look even remotely like the old ones - no sale.

Seriously, with all their resouces they should AT LEAST be able to match the quality and design of the modded gimbals that have been produced for the cougar by the community.

If they are using the Heart sensor, then they don't even need to worry about mounting pots or hall sensors to each axis and they can use a vastly better gimbal. If they come out with the same gimbal and just rip out the pots and stick the hall sensor under the shaft - that will be a clear sign they don't give a damn about giving us a quality product.

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#2899358 - 11/12/09 12:13 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: fuzzychickens]  
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Already got a G940 to replace my wobbly mess of a Coguar.
So no sale for me.

I agree. The Gimbals better be better than the Crappy Coguar ones.
Big dead zone and enough wobble to make accurate gunnery next to impossible.
Any joystick in that price range that requires an expensive mod just to get it to work right is a farce.

I hope as well it has the twin throttles of a A10, not a single F-16 type one.
I also hope it's for an A10-C not the old A model. More butons and such like then.

A prototype image would be nice.
As would a projected release time.
We talking 'out for this Christmas' or 'spring 2020' ?


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#2900013 - 11/13/09 12:08 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Stuntie]  
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Interesting for the real life A-10C cockpit shot - since the SFS Throttle was originally replicated after the F-15, does that mean the real A-10 uses the same throttle and the stick design from a F-16 now? Certainly seems like it.

Thrustmaster are either lucky or clever given that DCS Warthog will be the most high-fidelity Jet sim built so far, and they are matching their unit to that sim.

#2900062 - 11/13/09 02:07 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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#2900103 - 11/13/09 03:11 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Sokol1]  
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Once again; great information/pics from sokol1. Thanks for sharing these!
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#2900118 - 11/13/09 03:38 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: MudPuppy]  
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Looks like an F-15E Throttle combined with a F-16 stick.

Well the Warthog HOTAS is already halfway there if it is an F-16 stick.


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#2900454 - 11/14/09 01:03 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Stuntie]  
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Pretty much the F-15E throttle minus the antenna elevation wheel on the outboard side. In place of the CMD switch below the wheel on the F-15E there is a typical toggle switch which controls the master exterior lights/missile polarity. I don't believe that part has changed on the -C. Oh, and of course the afterburner finger-lifts are gone too from the -E throttle wink


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#2901712 - 11/16/09 12:10 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Corsair8X]  
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Interesting, I'm sure it's not the first time it's ever been done, but the first time I notice an aircraft getting "off the shelf" controls from previous airframes.

Oh, and the one with Afterburners will be the A-10X wink

#2901766 - 11/16/09 01:49 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: RSColonel_131st]  
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If those pictures are indicative of the final product other than in gimbals then count me out on this one. I can do better with my IJ upgraded Cougar and still be happy.


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#2906207 - 11/23/09 02:04 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Reschke]  
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Annnnnnd *poof* the AD is gone!

What happened? Seriously, not even a mention of it anywhere on their site...


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#2906242 - 11/23/09 03:26 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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Ad? WHat ad? What are you talking about??? A10 HOTAS?? Never heard of it!! biggrin

#2906268 - 11/23/09 04:21 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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I'm surprised you're here yourself.

Usually, when some people have seen too much they shouldn't have seen ...

Huh? Who could be knocking at my door at this time of the day??? biggrin

#2906269 - 11/23/09 04:22 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: 531 Ghost]  
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2-3 more years and then perhaps we will have something to replace it...or it could be that we influenced the development here by stating that we didn't want some screwed up inner pieces like the Cougar has in them to start with...well that is just me being wishful...oh well it never hurts to dream up things for these threads.


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#2906903 - 11/24/09 02:51 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Reschke]  
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Well knowing what I do about site maintaining, someone got a request for new flash banner, and out goes the old one. I don't think this is anything more serious than a simple "insert new banner here" request.


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#2909236 - 11/27/09 11:20 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Corsair8X]  
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Well, a new banner is up!! whoohoo

Lots more fuel for speculation now!!

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#2909287 - 11/28/09 01:47 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: PsykomantaBrain]  
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Well, if it weighs 13 pounds - shouldn't one expect that the internals/parts are solid and built to last?

Let's hope so.

I also hope the spring tension isn't so crazy that it hurts my arm like the cougar - or at least adjustable.

Also, the stick base looks modular - any chance they plan on shaft extensions?

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#2909386 - 11/28/09 07:12 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: fuzzychickens]  
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Where is Ghost now?
Quick Ghost, post a pic of a stick that only the United States Military can buy!


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#2910701 - 11/30/09 09:52 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Grim_Death]  
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[img]http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=830089&id=1388526347&fbid=1281611565571[/img]

Thought you guys might want to see this that was on the board at HTC for the CH A-10 USAF only HOTAS.


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#2910737 - 11/30/09 11:01 PM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: Reschke]  
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Judging from that short glimpse, it definitely preserves that military look that only Thrustmaster tends to have (and only Suncom ever approached), not to mention that there are some switches on the throttle's base.

There are still many unanswered questions, though...what are the internals like, for instance? (In particular, will the stick be force-feedback?)

All in all, though, this could be my next HOTAS. I like my Cougar and all, but the peeling paint on the stick is really getting to me now, not to mention that split-throttles can be handy and force-sensing sticks aren't always suitable (*cough*IL-2*cough*).

#2910830 - 12/01/09 01:29 AM Re: Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog Discussion Thread [Re: NamelessPFG]  
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Originally Posted By: NamelessPFG
(In particular, will the stick be force-feedback?)


I hope not... the A-10 isn't force feedback or force sensor. I suspect the stick will be similiar to the Cougar but only time will tell.


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