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#4569282 - 05/20/21 07:51 PM Joystick Issues in GOG EAW  
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I've sent them a message, but no reply yet. Was hoping someone here might be able to help. Running a Win 7 Pro Opsys.

Issue is that Joystick, a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro has no throttle and no rudder in GOG EAW. Pitch and Roll OK. Guns fire. Joystick works OK on other games.

The keyboard buttons which are supposed to control the "missing" joystick functions also do not seem to work.

Have tried setting "Windows Joystick" from original value of "1" to "0", and joystick loses all function and then game crashed. Set it back to "1".

Have tried deleting "dinput.dll" and joystick lost functionality altogether. Restored the dinput.dll.

In the ini, Flight Control =Joystick, Throttle = Throttle, Rudder = Rudder, and Camera Position = Mouse.

Checked in-game preferences, and the correct choices are made (similar to immediately above).

Any ideas?

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#4569290 - 05/20/21 08:46 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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start over, delete the eaw.ini and dinput.dll, configured your controls in game again before going into flight.

Sounds fishy though.

#4569296 - 05/20/21 09:57 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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Happened to me in the past for some reason my ini was messed up..I deleted it let EAW write a new one,set my controls up and made a copy to a safe location the advice of another member never did figure out what caused it.


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#4569299 - 05/20/21 10:09 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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Yeah one thing that happens is people forget to configure there joystick or flight controls and leave them blank, this could cause a CTD. Took me awhile to understand this error.

So if the eaw.ini
Flight Control =
Throttle =
Rudder =
Camera Position =

and I think Windows Joystick=1

It will cause issues and even CTD. I updated my help docs to reflect this in more than one area of the site.


@RIBOB, Just start over like i mentioned above.

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#4569337 - 05/21/21 08:04 AM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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From the posts in the EAW forum at GoG, and from my own experience, the " dinput.dll" stuffs up the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro (which I use)

I have the GoG version running in both in Win 7 and Win 10, including the expanded folder with the OAW patch.
I do not play it because I do not need the nostalgia, and I do not have a frame-rate problem.


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#4569396 - 05/21/21 02:51 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: MrJelly]  
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Much obliged for the advice! I'll delete the ini, re-run the program, delete the dinput.dll, and set controller preferences up within the program itself. Once the joystick is fully functional, I'll set up the snapviews and assign some other buttons, as usual.

Just to be clear, when finished, the ini should read:

Flight Control = Joystick
Throttle = Throttle
Rudder = Rudder
Camera Position = Mouse Is this correct? Wish me luck!

#4569415 - 05/21/21 04:09 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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delete eaw.ini and dinput.dll and run the eaw.exe then exit and set the Windows joystick=1 in the eaw.ini, re run the game and then configure controls in-game. , then re run the game and enter flight.

Insure your not using compability shortcut TAB settings. They interfere with controls.


Yup and luck.

#4569506 - 05/22/21 12:31 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: MarkEAW]  
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No Joy yet. Will check the compatibility settings next. If still no joy, I'll install the game into win 10 computer and see what happens.

#4569662 - 05/23/21 05:29 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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Complete failure on Win 10 machine. Game won't load, and gives a pop-up message about not being able to set controller "X" axis, which I suspect is the rudder issue again. Used Logitech software to calibrate the Logitech joystick, and all was apparently well.

Tried all various combos of the suggestions above, to no avail. Same Extreme 3D pro controller works fine in at least 2 other games, one of which is "Wings Of Prey", also a GOG Game

I might look into getting another controller. This one seems to be well regarded, and I need a Left-hand controller to play Kerbal Space program anyway.

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#4569663 - 05/23/21 05:37 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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It is your machine frown
Mine has a slot into which I put the HDD with the operating system on it.
I have all versions of EAW including the GoG one running on both the Windows 10 HDD and the Windows 7 HDD, with no compatibility settings.
The only controller that I have is a Logitech extreme 3DPro.


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#4569665 - 05/23/21 05:44 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: MrJelly]  
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Originally Posted by MrJelly
It is your machine frown
Mine has a slot into which I put the HDD with the operating system on it.
I have all versions of EAW including the GoG one running on both the Windows 10 HDD and the Windows 7 HDD, with no compatibility settings.
The only controller that I have is a Logitech extreme 3DPro.


At this point, I'm inclined to agree, although the GOG game being unplayable on two separate machines, one with Win 7 Pro opsys, and the other with Win 10 Pro opsys seems mighty odd.

Both of the computers have far more than adequate hardware to run this game. Since downloading GOG EAW onto either computer, I never checked-off any sort of compatibility settings. Hopefully the game does not do this automatically, and unbeknownst to me.

Would it be possible for someone to copy their (known to function properly) GOG EAW ini file and post it here? Either Win & or Win 10 opsys would do, just let me know which one is provided. Possibly I could compare it with what I have, and see if there's anything else causing the problem.

I sure do appreciate the help, folks! After all, this is not your problem, and GOG, while helpful in the past, has not yet replied to my Help Requests.

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#4569673 - 05/23/21 07:03 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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Last I checked GoG installer didn't set compatibility settings on the games shortcut, TAB settings.

Sorry, I'm not much help. Everything I seem to know is on my help site.

#4569681 - 05/23/21 07:39 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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I don't believe compatibility settings will help a stick issue.From what I've read the GOG version just doesn't play well with a Logitec stick.So there's few roads to follow go with Jellys 1.60 Look around I've seen some 1,28 installations around or get a Virgin 1.0 EAW and patch it to 1.2 at least ..I have EAW 1.2,,,,1,28,,1.6 and Pro all working fine with my logitec stick.Ain't rocket science if one version gives you troubles try another version..Jelly and Mark have posted the usual fixes time to switch horses


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#4569687 - 05/23/21 08:13 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: MrJelly]  
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When I use the Logitech Extreme 3DPro I have to unplug all other Controller's .This only
happens in the GOG version .All other versions work with all my controller's plug in to my
computer .
Only 3DPro plug in and these ini setting all works just fine . Give it a try .
Windows Joystick=1
Device1 Port=1
Device2 Port=2
Device3 Port=3
Rudder Device=1
Throttle Device=1
Stick Device=1
Key Device=0
POV Device=1
JoystickDeadZone=4






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#4569694 - 05/23/21 09:11 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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Russ, the compat settings interfere with joystick usage.

ShoGun, the ini settings look like from a version not from EAWv1.2, maybe from the unofficial 128C or later.
The device# port= is not in the v1.2

Anyhow
RIBOB, It sounds like the stick is not configured correctly in windows based on two things you have said..... but make sure you get it ID1 before loading the game, and delete the dinput.dll too before running the game.

Now just install a current (12) copy of eaw-gog and then copy the folder to a different location, uninstall the game and then clean out the registry with something like CCleaner, then restart. (hopefully you get the eaw reg entrys)
Then move that copy of the gog game folder to a proper location and run the eaw.exe directly. Configure the controler.

If it works for MicroProse v1.2 it should work in 1.2-Gog as well. I'm pretty sure there no updates to the controller code in gog version.

#4569700 - 05/23/21 10:17 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: MarkEAW]  
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MarkEAW the ini was out of my GoG 1.28 the first version they produced .
This ini I also run in a 1.2 with a no cd install '

[GRAPHICS]
Width=640
Height=480
TestDrawPrimitive=1
DisplayDevice=0
PlaneDetail=2
TerrainDetail=2
CloudDetail=1
EffectsDetail=2
HorizonDistance=2
Shadow=1
ExternalStores=1
LensFlare=1
LightSourcing=1
CockpitProp=1
VirtualCockpit=1
CockpitShake=1
3dCityTargets=2
Gamma Value=128
PropRotationSpeed=8
============================
PlaneSetNumber=1
VirtualCockpitGauge=1
VirtualCockpitProp=1
[EAW]
GameName=PLAYER'S GAME
PlayerPilotName=MrJelly
PlayerRank=5
PlayIntro=0
PlayerPlane=17
PlayerNation=0
LastCampaign=2
ColourMain=3
ColourAxis=3
ColourAllied=3
BirdSeed=5
QuickVersion=5
KeyboardLanguage=0
FlakAccuracy=2
FlakRof=2
HudFontSize=1
GunSightSize=1024
OldStyle=0
GroundBattle=1
ComputedGunsight=300
ExtraSquads=0
Month=7
Day=7
EnemyEncounter=0
FriendlyEncounter=0
AutoCombat=0
StaticCockpit=0
FadeTime=500
MissionNum=-1
============================
[DIFFICULTY]
SkillLevel=0
FlightModel=1
Landing=1
Stalls=1
Torque=1
Overheat=1
Blackout=1
StructrualLimit=1
Wind=1
RealisticGunnery=1
LimitedAmmo=1
MidAirCollision=1
PlayerDamage=1
DisplayUnit=1
DisplayHUD=1
IndicatedAirSpeed=0
PressureAltitude=0
============================
[DISPLAY]
HudColor_Red_R=250
HudColor_Red_G=0
HudColor_Red_B=0
HudColor_Blue_R=0
HudColor_Blue_G=0
HudColor_Blue_B=250
HudColor_Green_R=64
HudColor_Green_G=255
HudColor_Green_B=64
HudColor_Yellow_R=255
HudColor_Yellow_G=255
HudColor_Yellow_B=0
HudColor_LtBlue_R=0
HudColor_LtBlue_G=250
HudColor_LtBlue_B=250
HudColor_Violet_R=128
HudColor_Violet_G=0
HudColor_Violet_B=250
HudColor_Orange_R=250
HudColor_Orange_G=128
HudColor_Orange_B=0
HudColor_Pink_R=250
HudColor_Pink_G=0
HudColor_Pink_B=250
HudColor_White_R=250
HudColor_White_G=250
HudColor_White_B=250
HudColor_DkGray_R=55
HudColor_DkGray_G=55
HudColor_DkGray_B=55
DisplayInfoSetting=255
============================
[SOUND]
SoundQuality=1
SoundChannel=16
SoundDist=2
SoundVolume=20480
EngineVolume=4096
ExternalVolume=20480
MusicVolume=8192
SpeechVolume=36864
ReverseStereo=0
Subtitles=1
============================
[CONTROLS]
Force Feedback=0
Force Feedback Gain=0
Flight Sensitivity=1.000000
Camera Sensitivity=5.000000
Snapview Speed=5
Swap Mouse X=0
Swap Mouse Y=0
Windows Joystick=1
Device1 Port=1
Device2 Port=2
Device3 Port=3
Rudder Device=4
Throttle Device=4
Stick Device=4
Key Device=0
POV Device=4
JoystickDeadZone=4
Guns Convergence Z=0
Guns Convergence Y=0
============================
[CAMPAIGN]
CampaignDifficulty=1
CampaignLength=0
CampaignLimitAicraft=0
CampaignLimitSupply=0
============================
[Media]
Video Playback=0
============================
[NETOPTION]
Year=2
SkillLevel=0
MissionType=3
BattleSize=0
Weather=1
NoAI=0
StartOnGround=0
AllowRespawn=1
AI_PlaneUpdateRate=350
PlayerPlaneUpdateRate=35
ClockSyncRate=140
Sleep=400
Target=134
FriendlyPrimaryHB=8
FriendlySecondaryHB=22
EnemyPrimaryHB=18
EnemySecondaryHB=16
FriendlySecondaryPL=10
EnemyPrimaryPL=25
EnemySecondaryPL=20
============================
TimeOfDay=2
[Miscellaneous]
Debug Flags=0
============================
Debug Path=.\
[Remappable Keys]
FLIGHT CONTROL=Joystick
CAMERA CONTROL=Mouse
RUDDER CONTROL=Rudder
THROTTLE CONTROL=Throttle
Shift=Joystick_Btn_10
Ctrl=Joystick_Btn_11
Alt=Joystick_Btn_12
FRONT VIEW=F1
RIGHT FRONT VIEW=F2
RIGHT VIEW=F3
RIGHT REAR VIEW=F4
LEFT FRONT VIEW=F7
LEFT VIEW=F6
LEFT REAR VIEW=F5
UP FRONT VIEW=SHIFT F1
UP RIGHT FRONT VIEW=SHIFT F2
UP RIGHT VIEW=SHIFT F3
UP RIGHT REAR VIEW=SHIFT F4
UP LEFT FRONT VIEW=SHIFT F7
UP LEFT VIEW=SHIFT F6
UP LEFT REAR VIEW=SHIFT F5
INSTRUMENT VIEW=CTRL F1
INSTRUMENT LABEL=ALT F1
SNAPVIEW FRONT=POV_hat_Forward
SNAPVIEW RIGHT FRONT=POV_hat_Forward-Right
SNAPVIEW RIGHT=POV_hat_Right
SNAPVIEW RIGHT REAR=POV_hat_Back-Right
SNAPVIEW LEFT FRONT=POV_hat_Forward-Left
SNAPVIEW LEFT=POV_hat_Left
SNAPVIEW LEFT REAR=POV_hat_Back-Left
SNAPVIEW UP=NUMPAD5
SNAPVIEW REAR=POV_hat_Back
SNAPVIEW INSTRUMENT=NUMPAD0
VIRTUAL COCKPIT VIEW=F8
PADLOCK CURRENT TARGET=MULTIPLY
PADLOCK CLOSEST TO CENTER=SHIFT MULTIPLY
COCKPIT ON/OFF=DECIMAL
CHASE VIEW=SHIFT F8
FLY-BY VIEW=CTRL F8
TRACK VIEW - NEXT PLANE=F9
TRACK VIEW - PREVIOUS PLANE=SHIFT F9
TARGET VIEW=F10
PLAYER-TO-TARGET VIEW=SHIFT F10
TARGET-TO-PLAYER VIEW=CTRL F10
BOMB VIEW=F11
PLAYER-TO-BOMB VIEW=SHIFT F11
BOMB-TO-PLAYER VIEW=CTRL F11
ACTION VIEW=F12
DOGFIGHT VIEW=SHIFT F12
FREE CAMERA VIEW=CTRL F12
ZOOM BUTTON=Mouse_Btn_1
ZOOM IN=ALT EQUALS
ZOOM OUT=CTRL EQUALS
PAN CAMERA UP=U
PAN CAMERA DOWN=N
PAN CAMERA RIGHT=J
PAN CAMERA LEFT=H
CAMERA RESET=Mouse_Btn_2
STICK BACK=DOWN
STICK FORWARD=UP
STICK RIGHT=RIGHT
STICK LEFT=LEFT
RUDDER RIGHT=COMMA
RUDDER LEFT=SLASH
RUDDER CENTER=PERIOD
RUDDER FULL RIGHT=SHIFT COMMA
RUDDER FULL LEFT=SHIFT SLASH
START ENGINE 1=CTRL 1
START ENGINE 2=CTRL 2
START ENGINE 3=CTRL 3
START ENGINE 4=CTRL 4
THROTTLE UP=ADD
THROTTLE DOWN=SUBTRACT
THROTTLE 0=SHIFT SUBTRACT
THROTTLE 10%=1
THROTTLE 20%=2
THROTTLE 30%=3
THROTTLE 40%=4
THROTTLE 50%=5
THROTTLE 60%=6
THROTTLE 70%=7
THROTTLE 80%=8
THROTTLE 90%=9
THROTTLE 100%=EQUALS
THROTTLE ENGINE 1 DOWN=SEMICOLON
THROTTLE ENGINE 2 DOWN=APOSTROPHE
FLAPS UP=SHIFT F
FLAPS DOWN=F
WHEEL BRAKES ON/OFF=ALT F
LANDING GEARS UP/DOWN=CTRL F
COCKPIT LAMP ON/OFF=L
FIRE ALL GUNS=SPACE
FIRE ADDITIONAL GUNS=
ADDITIONAL GUNS BUTTON SWAP=SHIFT S
ADDITIONAL GUNS ON/OFF=Z
FIRE PRIMARY GUNS=SHIFT SPACE
FIRE SECONDARY GUNS=CTRL SPACE
DISPLAY SELECTED GUNS=CTRL S
FIRE SELECTED WEAPONS=C
SELECT BOMBS=W
SELECT ROCKETS=SHIFT W
RELEASE DROP TANKS=CTRL W
TARGET NEXT ENEMY=T
TARGET PREVIOUS ENEMY=SHIFT T
TARGET CLOSEST ENEMY=CTRL T
TARGET NEXT FRIENDLY=Y
TARGET PREVIOUS FRIENDLY=SHIFT Y
TARGET CLOSEST FRIENDLY=CTRL Y
TARGET NEXT GROUND=E
TARGET PREVIOUS GROUND=SHIFT E
TARGET BEST GROUND=CTRL E
TARGET CLOSEST RUNWAY=ALT E
DESELECT TARGET=BACK
FLIGHT INFO DISPLAY ON/OFF=
TARGET INFO DISPLAY ON/OFF=
TARGET DIRECTOR DISPLAY ON/OFF=
TARGET BOX DISPLAY ON/OFF=
TARGET ID DISPLAY ON/OFF=
TARGET RANGE DISPLAY ON/OFF=
RADIO MODE=TAB
CHAT MODE=GRAVE
PILOT MAP=ALT M
AUTOPILOT ON/OFF=A
WING LEVELER ON/OFF=SHIFT A
NEXT WAYPOINT=P
PREV WAYPOINT=SHIFT P
ACCELERATE TIME=PAGE_UP
NORMAL TIME=PAGE_DOWN
SKIP TO NEXT ENCOUNTER=ALT N
JUMP TO NEXT PLANE=ALT J
BAIL OUT=ALT B
PAUSE GAME=ALT P
SOUND ON/OFF=ALT S
QUIT GAME=ESCAPE
ScreenCapture=RMENU
FIRE SELECTED GUNS=SPACE
SELECT NEXT GUNS=S
SELECT PREVIOUS GUNS=SHIFT S
SELECT ALL GUNS=SHIFT SPACE
SELECT MACHINEGUNS=CTRL SPACE
SELECT CANNONS=ALT SPACE

THROTTLE ENGINE 1 UP=LBRACKET
THROTTLE ENGINE 2 UP=RBRACKET
TARGET NEXT ENEMY =T
TARGET PREVIOUS ENEMY =SHIFT T
TARGET CLOSEST ENEMY =CTRL T
TARGET NEXT FRIENDLY =Y
TARGET PREVIOUS FRIENDLY =SHIFT Y
TARGET NEXT GROUND =E
TARGET NEXT ENEMY =T
TARGET PREVIOUS ENEMY =SHIFT T
TARGET CLOSEST ENEMY =CTRL T
TARGET NEXT FRIENDLY =Y
TARGET PREVIOUS FRIENDLY =SHIFT Y
TARGET NEXT GROUND =E
TARGET NEXT ENEMY =T
TARGET PREVIOUS ENEMY =SHIFT T
TARGET CLOSEST ENEMY =CTRL T
TARGET NEXT FRIENDLY =Y
TARGET PREVIOUS FRIENDLY =SHIFT Y
TARGET NEXT GROUND =E
TARGET NEXT ENEMY =T
TARGET PREVIOUS ENEMY =SHIFT T
TARGET CLOSEST ENEMY =CTRL T
TARGET NEXT FRIENDLY =Y
TARGET PREVIOUS FRIENDLY =SHIFT Y
TARGET NEXT GROUND =E

#4569702 - 05/23/21 10:27 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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Yup, I thought it wasnt 12 ini.
I can see the 128 key settings mixed in. :\

ShoGun and players name MrJelly....lol

Looks like your eaw.ini is faulty near the end though. Double entry's.

#4569703 - 05/23/21 10:28 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: ShoGun]  
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Originally Posted by ShoGun
When I use the Logitech Extreme 3DPro I have to unplug all other Controller's .This only
happens in the GOG version .All other versions work with all my controller's plug in to my
computer .
Only 3DPro plug in and these ini setting all works just fine . Give it a try .
Windows Joystick=1
Device1 Port=1
Device2 Port=2
Device3 Port=3
Rudder Device=1
Throttle Device=1
Stick Device=1
Key Device=0
POV Device=1
JoystickDeadZone=4


I only have the single joystick. Have always left it 'plugged-in". wonder if i should Un-plug the joystick before starting the GoG game. I dunno.

#4569704 - 05/23/21 10:30 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: RIBob]  
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no, I wouldn't do that, that will frick things up. Have the stick in proper working order before running eaw.

#4569705 - 05/23/21 10:33 PM Re: Joystick Issues in GOG EAW [Re: MarkEAW]  
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This makes things confusing! I have CD versions of both early versions of the EAW game.

Sorry to be a fool!

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