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#4181944 - 10/15/15 04:00 PM Boeing says it created lightest metal ever???  
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http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/14/news/companies/boeing-lightest-metal/

http://www.dezeen.com/2015/10/15/microlattice-metal-worlds-lightest-material-boeing-movie/

Boeing says it's created the lightest metal ever, a microlattice material which it describes as 99.99% air.

Weight savings are crucially important in aircraft manufacturing, since a lighter aircraft requires less fuel, which is airlines' largest operating expense.

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner was a breakthrough commercial jet because it used light-weight composite carbon fiber material, rather than aluminum, to generate the best fuel efficiency in its class.

The microlattice looks like a sponge or a mesh, and is simultaneously flexible and very strong, according to Boeing. Should it become widely used, Boeing (BA) said the material could help airlines save huge amounts of money.

Boeing describes the new microlattice as an "open cellular polymer structure." The main use of the material would be structural components, such as sidewall or floor panels of commercial jets.

The material was jointly developed by HRL Laboratories, a joint venture between Boeing and General Motors (GM), in collaboration with Cal Tech and UC Irvine. The microlattice weighs only about one tenth as much as carbon fiber, and is actually slightly lighter than air itself, said Bill Carter, the director of the Sensors and Materials Laboratory at HRL.

It will likely first be used on space rockets that Boeing plans to build in about five years, and it should make its way into commercial planes about five years after that, said Carter. He said the cost of manufacturing will have to come down a little more before it is economically feasible to use on cars."



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How can it be lighter than air? the structure is surrounded by air which weighs as much as air and the structure is made of materials heavier than air. Bill Carter must be a sales man not a scientist, possibly he means that the external perimeter volume if surrounded by vacuum would be lighter than air but that is not a real case as the enclosing wall to allow a vacuum would make it heavier

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#4181947 - 10/15/15 04:17 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: CG2015]  
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I wonder what happens if water permeates the lattice, and freezes.

#4181956 - 10/15/15 04:39 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: CG2015]  
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or salty north Atlantic ocean water driven by 150kph winter winds contacts it smile

It sounds like a great discovery though


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#4181970 - 10/15/15 05:06 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: CG2015]  
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#4181988 - 10/15/15 06:02 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: CG2015]  
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Doesn't look like a new material to me, looks like a new structure made from an existing material.


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#4182024 - 10/15/15 07:20 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: CG2015]  
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Transparent aluminium is next.

#4182027 - 10/15/15 07:28 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: U-96]  
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Originally Posted By: U-96
Transparent aluminium is next.


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#4182033 - 10/15/15 07:41 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: U-96]  
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Originally Posted By: U-96
Transparent aluminium is next.


How do we know he didn't invent the thing?

I think he aldready has:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxynitride

#4182196 - 10/16/15 05:35 AM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted By: F4UDash4
Doesn't look like a new material to me, looks like a new structure made from an existing material.


This.
Quite likely they haven't created the lightest metal, merely the lightest metal structure-per-volume.
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#4182280 - 10/16/15 12:14 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: CG2015]  
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Wow... I really did not know that transparent aluminum existed. Excellent smile


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#4182518 - 10/16/15 09:06 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: CG2015]  
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Anything is transparent if you beat it thin enough. Aluminium oxynitride don't count. wink

Call me when it can form part of a pressurised hull.

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Originally Posted By: U-96
Anything is transparent if you beat it thin enough. Aluminium oxynitride don't count. wink

Call me when it can form part of a pressurised hull.


Ring ring...


Well, it can be used as armored "glass" that can stop a .50 cal


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#4182532 - 10/16/15 09:32 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: F4UDash4]  
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Originally Posted By: F4UDash4
Originally Posted By: U-96
Anything is transparent if you beat it thin enough. Aluminium oxynitride don't count. wink

Call me when it can form part of a pressurised hull.


Ring ring...


Well, it can be used as armored "glass" that can stop a .50 cal


As part of a laminate, yes it can. But it's not in use yet because of the cost and problems with mass production. Maybe in time... it is still an awesome material with the potential to save lives, I'll give you that smile

#4182586 - 10/16/15 11:03 PM Re: Boeing says it created lightest metal ever??? [Re: CG2015]  
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LOL i thought this thread was going to be about either Poison or Cinderella.


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Originally Posted By: Clydewinder
LOL i thought this thread was going to be about either Poison or Cinderella.

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