Skoop....I'm a supporter too...was just having some fun. The guys have some really good points here...but it's nice to see some positive posts from time to time. We all love our flight sims here...no doubt about that. Take Care...

What is this? Haven't seen it before but I destroyed a few of them
Looks like carrying some bombs...
Anybody?

thats a Nebelwerfer.. "Wurfrahmen 40", named after Nebel, the rocket pioneer as well as after the fact that it could be used to produce a smokescreen (german: vernebeln)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wurfrahmen_40

That looks like a 'Wurfrahmen 40' (launch frame 40). It's basically a SdKfz 251 halftrack with rockets mounted on the sides.

Didn't know that... thought it was too fat for rockets.
Sry for off-topic but it's interesting.

Thanks DrZebra & Chucky!

A little info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wurfrahmen_40.It had a great nickname of 'The Walking Stuka'

*edit* DrZebra beat me to it.

My dad called them "screaming mimi" confirmed here...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screaming_Mimi

If you play Company of Heroes 1 or 2 they have them in the game. The rockets make a great sound and the devastation is great if imprecise.

German tracked version of the Katyusha rocket launcher trucks.




The Jedi Master

Saw this comment on the official forums regarding the low numbers of players online



There is interest out there for a WW2 flight sim, we just don't have one in BoS - now you could add a 'yet' to that but I've not seen any indication that 1CGS see where the problems are with their game when they keep churning out the same type of game and that won't change while people still buy it. Its not that there are not enough flight sim fans out there its just 1CGS couldn't seem to make up their mind who their target audience was.

Hell yeah, I'd buy a new WWII flight sim, built for the modern PC, if anyone was up for making one.

And I see threads continue to disappear over there, thought they had moved beyond that...

[Text deleted] you crack me up with your little quipy remarks even though you know not of what you speak.



1. Thanks I did not know that. I looked up the interview and seems the DCG did play a major part in the Backers decision to pull the plug. The funny thing is that simmers are constantly saying how good that DCG still is and how they wish others would emulate it.

2.Agree about DCS high fidelity(painfully slow development of WWII, but at least they saved Luthier's diasaster). Disagree about BOS being High fidelity. IMHO the FM(light feeling of flight like ROF FM, Russian dive speeds wrong, to fast and unorthodox shaking and wobbling of Axis fighter) and especially the DM(which DCS DM is awful also) leave a lot to be desired.

3.Disagree humbly, 30 missions in 3 months is very low for a Community the size of the BOS Community, Plus there is no way to make an actual Campaign. I agree about mission design, but with the DNE engine modeling all AI with real player physics, you will see this take a heavy toll on FPS unless like Dakapilot says you compromise eye candy for FPS, meaning balanced or low setting. To me that is unacceptable when I run most of my Fight Sims with near Max or Max settings and stay in the 30-50 FPS range. To actually be able to adjust my settings such as I could in the EA could allow me to find the right balance to have my cake and eat it to, but Loft doesn't want to allow me to do that. If you want to play some heavy AI laden missions with good FPS and premium eye candy, get a Desastersoft Campaign for CLOD and as long as you are not directly over London(it is fair over London), you will have good performance and supreme Eye Candy Graphically adjustable however you like. Thanks again for the info on DCG waying down Falcon production.

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I don't recall having issues with thousands of AI in DCS. Heck the the only time I ever has issues in a custom campaign was when there were 50 to 100 ground force vehicles firing multiple rockets.

Bos is crippled when you introduced a decent amount of AI, just as in RoF. Not sure that will ever be fixed....therefore not sure how people can look all rosy toward the future of sp. All signs from RoF to BoS point to small scale with no room to change.

In my experience I have to disagree with you on having thousands of AI in DCS. If you want to lower the graphics settings down to medium or low in some cases then yes I guess it is possible with acceptable FPS. If I am running High Graphics settings I will see slowdown in the 20- 30 FPS range with only about 12 -15 Ai. This is especially true over any bigger cities. I honestly think DCS outperforms BOS and graphically they are close, giving BOS the edge, but as far as feeling of flight(FM), CEM and immersion(even without a true WWII map and objects) DCS wins hands down, IMHO. CLOD is where it is at for having massive detail and having more AI than any other modern Sim out there. There is still just to much to enjoy in CLOD, DCS, Il2 1946 CUP and even ROF to even think about BOS or BOM. I still can't buy the ,"Well it's BOS & BOM or nothing." Couple that with the attitude of most of the PR crew and IMHO the lack of popularity, especially in MP, and you have a True picture of the mediocre(at best) product 1c/777 has sold us. Maybe some of you are right, 1, 2, 3 years down the road BOS might be a great Sim, who knows, stranger things have happened, but it is already coming up on 2 years.


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There's truth to that last line, who'd thought a team of modders would improve CLOD for free.

For me it's hard to ignore BOS cuz I'm a huge east front fan. I like the aircraft of the era and the differences that the match up provides.

Of course, the same could be said of Falcon 4. When the official patches for that stopped in late 99, it was working but hardly stellar. It had a few years of life in it, but would've died out 10 years ago if not for the modding.

Ironically, the modding proved the market still existed, which led to Lead Pursuit getting the rights to release F4: AF. Despite what they called "beyond successful" sales, they collapsed too. At least, seeing as all the devs disappeared, the website stalled with no updates since 09, and the promised sequel/addon still hasn't happened 10 years later, I think it safe to say that it went full circle.

F4 RP and SP work led to F4:AF coming out, but F4: AF IMO ultimately died because the modders went further faster and left it behind.



The Jedi Master

I love how I am to believe it is not possible to make a dynamic campaign when there are iPad games with dynamic campaigns. There are tons of iPad war games with persistent models that wouldn't qualify as dynamic in my book but are fun and immersive.

Of course, Falcon was the absolute pinnacle of single player experience. I was on the closed beta, with one person I know of from SHQ, and I find it absurd that with all the means of funding that exist now that did not exist back in 1998, many of which BOS has used and probably more they planned to use, I'm supposed to believe that a dynamic campaign, let alone a decent single player experience is impossible. It is a matter of priorities and BOS dev's are not interested in the same ones as we are.

That's surely their prerogative. I'm not going to support it further.

I think that this is what it comes down to, plain and simple. All of the hopeful thinking of what "could be" is coming from customers, not 1CGS. And it would be a simple thing for 1CGS to say "of course we're working on better SP campaign content." But they're not saying that at all. They're working on BoM with the same BoS campaign system. Even as 1CGS is flat out saying it isn't going to happen, supporters of BoS insist otherwise. I don't get that part.

Loft'ilosophy:

"= FB = LOFT, on 15 May 2015 - 21:56, said:
We make a game for those who bought a pre-order BZM (BoM) ..
Because people buy BZM (BoM)."

People buy BOM because find BoS good/right.
BoM = carbon copy of BoS, expect any online(COOP)/campaign(SP) improvements is futile.

But but, they just need more time....it will be ok....the community can fix it.......