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#4099952 - 04/01/15 12:17 AM Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner  
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http://www.historyplace.com/specials/personal/gunner-diary1.htm

The diary entries are interesting reads. I won't spoil the ending for you guys. wink


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#4099960 - 04/01/15 12:54 AM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Thanks shan a very interesting read. thumbsup
Wouldn't have taken much for him to have become one of the statistics that didn't make it home.


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#4100455 - 04/01/15 10:26 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Amazing what they went through. Each mission seemed like a major battle...


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#4100631 - 04/02/15 11:59 AM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Great read , thanks for posting.


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#4100641 - 04/02/15 12:27 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Very interesting ...You caught only some glimpse of the psychological strain they had to endure (not speaking of the physical one )...I've read the memories of a radio operator, simply written but vivid: he ended with booze to get some sleep after the stress and amphetamins to fulfill the long missions.


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#4100694 - 04/02/15 02:00 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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We were told at interrogation that Bremen put up more flak today than any city up to now. Big Deal! Got back OK!

Awesome read, cheers Shan !


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#4100974 - 04/02/15 10:07 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Excellent read thank you.

What surprised me the most is how low they flew.

Bombing runs at 12 000' is very low


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#4100994 - 04/02/15 10:42 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Yeah...I shudder to think what the flak did to them at that altitude...


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#4101171 - 04/03/15 01:00 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Fascinating, thanks for sharing thumbsup

#4101221 - 04/03/15 02:16 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Very interesting read, thanks for posting.


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

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#4101341 - 04/03/15 05:58 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: Genbrien]  
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Originally Posted By: Genbrien
Excellent read thank you.

What surprised me the most is how low they flew.

Bombing runs at 12 000' is very low

Had they had to fly as low over Germany as they did over Japan to achieve their mission goals the losses would have been exponentially worse.


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#4101432 - 04/03/15 09:18 PM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Keep in mind that the one mission they flew at 12k ft was against a heavy water plant in Norway with apparently only light flak defenses. Against a heavily defended target in Germany such a low altitude would have caused significant losses.


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

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Originally Posted By: Para_Bellum
Keep in mind that the one mission they flew at 12k ft was against a heavy water plant in Norway with apparently only light flak defenses. Against a heavily defended target in Germany such a low altitude would have caused significant losses.

I think there was a movie that starred Kirk Douglas made about that plant. The bombing raid was secondary to the rest of the story though.
The Heroes of Telemark: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059263/


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#4101561 - 04/04/15 08:35 AM Re: Diary of a B-17 Tailgunner [Re: shan2]  
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Yeah, good movie.

yep

Kinda ironic though how the US believed to be in a race with Germany for the atomic bomb when in fact Germany never even came close to developing one.


"...late afternoon the Air Tasking Order came in [and] we found the A-10 part and we said, "We are going where!? We are doing what!?"

Capt. Todd Sheehy, Hog pilot, on receiving orders during Operation Desert Storm

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Originally Posted By: Para_Bellum
Keep in mind that the one mission they flew at 12k ft was against a heavy water plant in Norway with apparently only light flak defenses. Against a heavily defended target in Germany such a low altitude would have caused significant losses.



I put 12k ft because it was very low, but in my mind I always thought that they were flying over FL300
The highest they went was FL290 I think


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Originally Posted By: Para_Bellum
Yeah, good movie.

yep

Kinda ironic though how the US believed to be in a race with Germany for the atomic bomb when in fact Germany never even came close to developing one.


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A truly interesting read. Thanks for posting it, Shan!

We're fortunate that some people keep diaries during such trying times. I doubt that I would have taken the time to do it under the same circumstances.

I seem to recall reading another reference to Lucky 13 (with the tail number that did not have 13 in it...) I thought it would be in "The Men Who Killed the Luftwaffe", which I have in Kindle format, but a search through that came up empty. That's probably going to bug me for awhile... frown


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