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#3760075 - 03/30/13 08:39 PM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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Hpasp , would u introduce sa-8 ashuluk targets ? We will have meteor or something else ?
and one thing is still here and i love to say it... you said you minde still open so i want say somthing during designing of sa-8 panels.... hpasp ... would u want create sceen of scope (SOC) and SCC with ultra high details of colors ?  this system is really great evolution at samsim systems and i hope at the future we will see something different with graphical crysis  My main question is still open to everyone... ... how do you like the new '80s white Soviet SAM panel design, compared to the earlier silver/blue one?  In my feeling, the OSA is the first Soviet SAM system where Man-Machine-Interface was considered during the design at least. Most of the indicators and switches are in logical order, compared to the SA-2/3 designs, where developers put switches in places, just because there were empty place on that instrument... 
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#3760271 - 03/31/13 11:13 AM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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At the Bekaa valley, OSA shot some IDF planes, but this should be further investigated.
Acording to everything that I read about the 1982 Bekaa Valley operations (Operation Mole Cricket) NO IDF fixed-wing aircraft seem to have been shot down. Nevertheless the Angola-South Africa scenarios seems promissing! From Jane's Land Based Air Defence book... First recorded combat use was in the Bekaa Valley, ... in late July 1982, when Israeli aircraft destroyed three of these systems belonging to the Syrians, but the fourth SPU shot down an Israeli F-4E Phantom.
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During the 1987/88 battles in Angola against the SAAF, the FAPLA Brigade SAM units, equipped with the SA-8, destroyed two Seeker RPVs and an Aermacchi/Aeritalia AM-3C Bosbok...
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#3760389 - 03/31/13 04:24 PM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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From Jane's Land Based Air Defence book...
First recorded combat use was in the Bekaa Valley, ... in late July 1982, when Israeli aircraft destroyed three of these systems belonging to the Syrians, but the fourth SPU shot down an Israeli F-4E Phantom.
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During the 1987/88 battles in Angola against the SAAF, the FAPLA Brigade SAM units, equipped with the SA-8, destroyed two Seeker RPVs and an Aermacchi/Aeritalia AM-3C Bosbok...
Very interesting information (which I didn't know). Thanks for the information Hpasp!
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#3760477 - 03/31/13 09:50 PM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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#3760673 - 04/01/13 11:43 AM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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What caused the spirals on the target acquisition radar? Another radar on the same frequency causing interferences? The good old Range Gate Pull Off (RGPO) Range Deception Jamming against the SOC. 
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#3760985 - 04/01/13 07:50 PM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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Was it missed by me only, that the war for Cuito Cuanavale (1987~88) was the biggest battle after World War-II on the African continent???  Fought by... FAPLA (Forças Armadas Populares de Libertação de Angola) CUBAN - 65'000 leaded by Castro SOVIET - 2'500 advisor ... against ... UNITA (União Nacional para a Independência Total de Angola) - 30'000 SADF - 3'500 South African Defense Forces
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#3770686 - 04/20/13 12:09 PM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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dear hpasp... are u play write coding or you still reading the manual operation?
no panel design yet ?
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#3771335 - 04/22/13 08:15 AM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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Was it missed by me only, that the war for Cuito Cuanavale (1987~88) was the biggest battle after World War-II on the African continent???
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Fought by...
FAPLA (Forças Armadas Populares de Libertação de Angola)
CUBAN - 65'000 leaded by Castro
SOVIET - 2'500 advisor
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UNITA (União Nacional para a Independência Total de Angola) - 30'000
SADF - 3'500 South African Defense Forces I suggested this conflict already earlier this year in the "Suggestion and Ideas" thread - here a link to my post with some links to other sources as well, also listing some AA kills.
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#3772203 - 04/23/13 08:40 PM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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dear hpasp... are u play write coding or you still reading the manual operation?
no panel design yet ? This one... i saw that  my meant was online panel dear hpasp would u do a favor to us ===>  and show the SSC panel when system is online ?  please
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#3772405 - 04/24/13 07:28 AM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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In 0.926.7, lots of the switches move now, and a few of them are hidden beneith switch covers. Are all these moving switches going to be simulated? The SA-8 might be more complicated than I thought, which is great! There are 4 buttons under cover, and one that is locked (can be unlocked), plus two wheels so far. What is moving now, that is planned to be alive when the OSA will be released. (several of those are only used for emergency procedures)
Also some of the dials are very small. If they're important, they might be too small to read.
I will working on it. (also the labels are small, but they will stay as they are in the real system)
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#3772406 - 04/24/13 07:30 AM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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dear hpasp... are u play write coding or you still reading the manual operation?
no panel design yet ? This one... i saw that my meant was online panel dear hpasp would u do a favor to us ===> and show the SSC panel when system is online ? please No, as I do not have any. This is where the sim stands now. First I create the switch movements, and only after it I will create indicators. Currently I'm working on the Range wheel indicator.
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#3772424 - 04/24/13 09:04 AM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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Was it missed by me only, that the war for Cuito Cuanavale (1987~88) was the biggest battle after World War-II on the African continent???
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Fought by...
FAPLA (Forças Armadas Populares de Libertação de Angola)
CUBAN - 65'000 leaded by Castro
SOVIET - 2'500 advisor
... against ...
UNITA (União Nacional para a Independência Total de Angola) - 30'000
SADF - 3'500 South African Defense Forces I suggested this conflict already earlier this year in the "Suggestion and Ideas" thread - here a link to my post with some links to other sources as well, also listing some AA kills. Exactly this is why it will be included...
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#3772501 - 04/24/13 02:50 PM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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Regarding label size - will panels look as they are now or will they be divided to more vertical parts like with other systems in SAMSIM for better readability? They will look like as of now.
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#3773490 - 04/26/13 10:50 AM
Re: 9K33M2 OSA-AK (SA-8B Gecko)
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OSA conundrum...  Who can decipher the meaning of these status indicator lamps of the 2nd firing channel? (KRUG experts has advantage! Those who served on the OSA, please be quiet!)  I hope, that the general SAM knowledge of this community, could help you to solve this quiz.
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