#3552111 - 04/07/12 12:43 AM
Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601
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Point well taken. As a partial excuse, 8 posted pics that show off the engine in its worst light...gray. When under an overcast, the details just evaporate. The engine IS tired compared to modern First Person Shooter games. I think it is still viable within the confines of a mission for a while longer. With great respect, I disagree. I'm not talking about first person shooters like BF3, I'm just talking about a modern sim standard. As I say - I love your work and love the artistry of your missions, I just find the graphics of the Third Wire engine rather old and ugly after DCS and Rise of Flight. The flight models are also rather clunky. I even think the new graphics for Strike Fighters North Atlantic look old. I seriously reckon you guys should make inquries about the Jet Thunder engine. It sounds like it's near launch after some major hiccups and all the noises being made is that it will be open for modding. They'd be wanting a cash injection right about now I'd think. And they've even got an A4, so there's Vietnam sorted! As I say. No offence. I would just love to see the passion you guys have for this theatre given full justice in a modern sim engine. Was thinking about re-installing YAP2. Will it run on Windows 7?
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#3552873 - 04/08/12 08:15 PM
Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601
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Terrain tiles are a bit low res thats all - the WOV engine is actually DX9 - the same as DCS A-10C and Falcon BMS.
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#3553092 - 04/09/12 06:29 AM
Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601
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#3553146 - 04/09/12 11:48 AM
Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601
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I agree it's the ground irks me the most. it looks terrible.
But the clouds are also shocking. And the flak/tracer in YAP2 is terrible.
Such a shame when the aircraft as so lovingly modelled. I thought the flak and tracer are actually dead on as from 05s experience - thats nothing to do with limitations - other sims just dont portray it correctly - but you can of course download some different effects from combatace to make it a bit more hollywood. The same for clouds - find another cloud1.tga - there have been loads of cloud and environment mods at Combatace over the years if it bothers you that much. For the record the SF2 series is DX10 making it one of the most advanced engines out there - North Atlantic adds code that paves the way for a good Falklands based game.
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#3553208 - 04/09/12 02:41 PM
Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601
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I should address the criticism about our AAA and didn't. YAP's flak is pretty much right on. Since I may be the only person who has actually faced all those types of guns, I know them intimately. To say they are inaccurate, I assumed was a reference to the way they appear in-game to a non-combatant.
I made the 37mm white before I knew how to make a more subtle version but it IS white and every other game has it wrong. 57mm tracers are big red balls and if you fly through a stream of them, they look like bowling balls. When showing Dick Rutan one of his missions, he remarked "Hey! There's the Ron Ferry! Amazing. But, you know, there was always a 57mm south of the river that shot at us when we crossed the beach." Right then, our 57mm started firing at his F-100F. He laughed then said "Bigger. You have to make them bigger." So we did.
One thing gamers need to remember about YAP, it comes from combat experience (and not just mine). It comes from dozens and dozens of men that flew these things. We never fixed the SAM smoke but that was because I could not get the right color orange but I have tried. Our gray 57mm is pretty much right on also. TK's black flak is good for the big guns (85 and 100).
I always wanted to Ban Laboy at night but nobody would believe what we presented because they have not seen it.
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