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#3381327 - 09/03/11 12:42 PM Seating solutions?  
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I've been to a few scrapyards (breaker yards) and have asked around for getting a car seat for my planned cockpit build --- and they're asking for £20-30 for your basic car seat that comes in "I've been exposed to the elements for the last two years" condition. I was thinking "you gotta be kidding me," after all, aren't these cars bound for the junkshop/furnaces anyway? And £20 for a basic seat?

Damn.

I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas? I do know some build flight seats out of wood or old recliners or lawn chairs, but I'm looking for one with tons of foam support - my "premium" office chair lasted me 6 months and now I can feel the bottom after a few hours of seat time.


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#3381985 - 09/04/11 10:21 AM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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Anyone?


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#3381987 - 09/04/11 10:33 AM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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Ebay?
My local Halfords had acouple of shop-demonstrator replacement car seats on clearance for £50 last year, been kicking myself for not getting one.
Or one of the Xbox rocker chairs sometimes on clearence.
Wired for sound and you wont need to rock...
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#3381989 - 09/04/11 10:36 AM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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eBay seems to give me mostly child-car seats... and £50 for a seat? Whoa!

Didn't expect it to be this expensive!


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#3381998 - 09/04/11 11:16 AM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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Looks like one can now exclude words, like when using google-fu :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=-h...6.c0.m270.l1313

#3382004 - 09/04/11 11:28 AM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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My search skills suck. Thanks for the help!

Now to find one that I can afford...


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#3382066 - 09/04/11 02:12 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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I built an aces II. I had the car seat for a while but using a center stick isn't comfortable or immersive that way. It still needs paint and detailing but is far better than the car seat i was using.


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#3382238 - 09/04/11 08:15 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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I've seen people use racing-style bucket seats in their pits. I'm not one to go the pre-fab route, so for my pit, which at this point is just an Akers-Barnes Cockpit, I'm doing the padding myself. When you build your own seat, you get the privilege of choosing exactly how thick and padded you want the seat to be. For example, I believe that I read that Lobo_63 used that expensive yet comfortable memory foam for his "TM Warthog Glider Rocker Sim Seat Mod".

Myself, I'm just going to go with two or three inch thick dense foam padding for the seat, and maybe one or two inch for the seat back. The beauty of making it yourself is that you get to make it exactly how you want it.


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#3382240 - 09/04/11 08:16 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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I'm more after comfort than "accuracy," though I will admit that mounting the center stick will be a challenge. How'd you pad your Aces seat?


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#3382297 - 09/04/11 09:27 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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You could get decent foam from a local upholstery shop. You could have them make a cover at the same time. I'm kicking this idea around ATM since I'm now not sure I want a car seat in my A10 pit lol! I was in the same frame of mind as you too, adjustable and comfort!


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#3382320 - 09/04/11 09:59 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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It will be easy enough to get a "custom" Aces seat to slide forward/backward, the main reason I was going for a car seat is the more-durable foam --- what is the "local upholstery shop" equivalent of such foam?

I am willing to work around an "unrealistic" car seat in a 'pit build if it meant being able to sit in comfort for hours, but if I can get the same comfort by buying custom-cut foam, I would!


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#3382399 - 09/05/11 01:28 AM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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I just couldn't get the feel right using a center stick in a car seat. This made it real uncomfortable mostly for me. I used the sliders from it for the aces II. Try JO-Anne fabrics (wife does quilting) for the different foam you might want to use.


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#3383230 - 09/06/11 12:08 AM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
I've been to a few scrapyards (breaker yards) and have asked around for getting a car seat for my planned cockpit build --- and they're asking for £20-30 for your basic car seat that comes in "I've been exposed to the elements for the last two years" condition. I was thinking "you gotta be kidding me," after all, aren't these cars bound for the junkshop/furnaces anyway? And £20 for a basic seat?

Damn.

I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas? I do know some build flight seats out of wood or old recliners or lawn chairs, but I'm looking for one with tons of foam support - my "premium" office chair lasted me 6 months and now I can feel the bottom after a few hours of seat time.


With all wrecking yards, you've got to see what they've got frequently, to get the good stuff you need before it's rained upon or snatched up by someone else. IMO 20 (AUD 40-60?) is good for a seat (in good condition) - and way, way cheaper than buying one from the dealer. Passenger seats will usually be in better condition than driver's seats, also. Go to a yard that has hundreds of cars to look in - there's got to be a few good seats in there, especially since you don't need a specific model.

#3386574 - 09/09/11 06:56 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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I can't afford to go to wrecking yards "just to see what they have new." That and the guys I've met who manage the yards are pretty much un-fun to deal with.

I was thinking of maybe making my own ACES II seat... If I'm building the 'pit anyway, why not a proper chair to fit? I was wondering if anyone had any info/links regarding the measurements of an ACES II seat? I tried googling for it and get a few, but I can't tell if they're authentic. One of the sites even mentioned just measuring a model-scale ACES II and worked his way from there. I want as-accurate measurements as I can find... though I'm only interested in building the actual front-part of the seat, no grand ideas of building a replica here.

Thanks!


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#3386622 - 09/09/11 07:45 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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#3386627 - 09/09/11 07:51 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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Yep, but like he said himself:

Quote:
This is by nomeans an attempt to copy the original ACESII Ejection Seat exactly. It's more like a look a like generic version of all the sub-types that are called theACESII


Are there any more references out there? Surely we're all not going by that guy's measurements.


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#3386776 - 09/09/11 11:19 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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I went to Jo-Anne fabrics and use 2" green foam but the wife covered it with a camoflage fabric for me that we picked out also. Going to use the same camo on all I can in the pit to kind of give it a theme in a way.

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#3387158 - 09/10/11 04:34 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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Chappy, can you give me a link to that Jo-Anne fabrics store? I think I found one but just want to be sure we're on the same page. Thanks!


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#3414512 - 10/20/11 03:12 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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I went with the DIY rocker glider sim conversion. Tossed the old thin worn out cushions. Replaced with brand new memory foam with thickness and shape to my liking.

Here is how it looks. It is very comfortable for me. You could adjust the foam cushion to whatever is comfortable for you.



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#3414697 - 10/20/11 07:17 PM Re: Seating solutions? [Re: - Ice]  
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Lobo_63, what are you using for the stick extension?

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