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Talk about badass!

>120nm kill range.

WTF


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Flippin eck!...

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So basically Phoenix II. smile


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
So basically Phoenix II. smile


And then some, much more advanced. Depending on launch speed and altitude I wouldn't be surprised if this thing can reach out to 200 miles.


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
So basically Phoenix II. smile


And then some, much more advanced. Depending on launch speed and altitude I wouldn't be surprised if this thing can reach out to 200 miles.


I’d imagine it’d easily kill a Mainstay at that range if, like you mention, launched at 50K feet and Mach 2+.


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And that 120nm range is supposedly for fighters, so if the target is a bomber or refueler you could probably lob it from father out.

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Originally Posted by NH2112
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
So basically Phoenix II. smile


And then some, much more advanced. Depending on launch speed and altitude I wouldn't be surprised if this thing can reach out to 200 miles.


I’d imagine it’d easily kill a Mainstay at that range if, like you mention, launched at 50K feet and Mach 2+.



And the US Navy doesn't have a fighter that will do Mach 2 at 50k, especially not hauling 2 of those monsters (and you better have some drop tanks trying to get as fast, high and far from the carrier as you can)


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Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by NH2112
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
So basically Phoenix II. smile


And then some, much more advanced. Depending on launch speed and altitude I wouldn't be surprised if this thing can reach out to 200 miles.


I’d imagine it’d easily kill a Mainstay at that range if, like you mention, launched at 50K feet and Mach 2+.



And the US Navy doesn't have a fighter that will do Mach 2 at 50k, especially not hauling 2 of those monsters (and you better have some drop tanks trying to get as fast, high and far from the carrier as you can)

Yeah, I saw a Mover and Gonky show (former F-16/F-18 pilots, respectively) talking about this, and they felt performance of a Super Hornet would be marginal to get it off the deck with those and fuel tanks, as I recall.

I didn't remember it correctly, but they did think it'd be tough for a SH to get up to speed carrying four of them:
https://youtu.be/VvJhB3a5Qag?t=152

An F-15X might have better performance while carrying them, but it's not Navy and not going off of a carrier.

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Time to bring back the F-14!!! biggrin


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I occasionally watch Mover/Gonky. Their sometimes guest "Wombat" (E-2/F-18) has said on 2-3 occasions "there's nothing super about the Super Hornet"


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I imagine it’d just take a software update and maybe an AIM174B-specific data cable to be able to launch them off an F15 or F16.


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Of current fighters, only the MiG-31 might be capable of hauling 2 missiles of that size to Mach 2 and 50K feet, considering that its able to launch a 9500 lb Khinzhal at Mach 2.4 at 50K feet.

Granted that's with the specialized K variant, it's not a given that a standard '31 could do it.

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I would add there is something to be said about the fear of the weapon.

It may prevent issues given its potential.

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Indeed. A true "peacemaker."

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The Russians and Chinese have developed long range missiles, and Europe has the Meteor missile, and they were out-distancing the AIM-120, so this gives the US a longer-ranged missile option, in addition to the AIM-260 that should be coming out soon.


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More speculation... He calculates the missile has 620 Km range...

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