#4502011 - 12/30/19 10:27 PM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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Western: type: Spaghetti Western: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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#4502014 - 12/30/19 10:46 PM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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For those of us who are old enough to remember the Cold War, films like "WarGames" and "Hunt for Red October" will always have a special bit of nostalgia and I would also be interested in seeing the reaction to those movies by people who are college aged or younger now. I wonder if they would be able to connect with those movies without ever having lived during those times? They would, PM. Just not on the same level as we do. I'll mention, in case any of you hadn't heard about it before, that Connery almost turned down "Red October". The story goes that when he got the script to read the page that set the movie in 1984 wasn't there and he initially thought it was contemporary, which made no sense since the Cold War was over by then. Fortunately for us, his agent explained it to him. Crime/Noir/Suspense: "The Usual Suspects" It's so well done it's fun to watch even when you know who Keyser Soze is. Pure fun: "Smokey and the Bandit" Disappointing: "Smokey and the Bandit 2" Waste of time: "Smokey and the Bandit 3"
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#4502043 - 12/31/19 01:12 AM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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As far as Das Boot is concerned, my vote is for the original TV mini series (but I'm probably biased since that is the first one that I saw). The original theatrical release was a collection of all the action scenes which changed the pacing substantially, and also altered the character of the whole story. The original story is all about the endless boredom that is war, interspersed with terror, and then a few absurd moments and hard partying either in anticipation of another tour, or in celebration of still being alive. Obviously, for a cinema release you can't have all the boredom in it, I understand why those decisions were made. But still, the TV series towers above the cinema versions. The Director's cut is, of course, still better than the wretched US theatrical release version.
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#4502055 - 12/31/19 02:57 AM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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In the category "Cold War Illustrated": Dr. Strangelove. It's an excellent comedy, it's an excellent illustration of nuclear weapon release safeguards, it's an excellent illustration of why they wouldn't help as soon as you throw in a dash of irrationality. Dr Strangelove is an excellent black comedy, but it had zero relevance to real life US nuclear command and control or surety procedures even at the time it was made, and there was never a time when wing commanders or the like could authorize a nuclear strike on their own.
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#4502066 - 12/31/19 09:17 AM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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#4502073 - 12/31/19 11:40 AM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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Western: type: Spaghetti Western: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
I fully concur with your pick Haggart. I'm really not a big fan of the Western but The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is so good I make an exception for that one.
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#4502074 - 12/31/19 11:44 AM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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The Director's cut is, of course, still better than the wretched US theatrical release version. Absolutely. I believe the Director's Cut is about one full hour longer than the original US theatrical release. And naturally since I was born and raised in the US, my very first viewing of Das Boot was the US theatrical version dubbed in English. I know, I was definitely deprived in my young age in that instance.
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#4502112 - 12/31/19 04:21 PM
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I think some of the 50-60s classics will be hard to overcome - just the sheer scale of them and how things was done and the cast involved:
Ben Hur Cleopatra Lawrence of Arabia Spartacus
Absolutely. I would also add Quo Vadis to that list. Additionally, a different genre, but Princess Bride. And, while we are at it, it seems unlikely the original Star Wars trilogy is going to exceeded or improved upon.
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#4502122 - 12/31/19 05:11 PM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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First time I saw Das Boot was on VHS maybe 1984, a rental from a little video store.
I was asked to leave a $200 credit card deposit which was done by manually imprinting my card on triplicate carbon copy and
the clerk had to call my credit card issuer on the phone to get an approval code.
$100 deposit per tape and Das Boot was on 2 tapes. Wow, now that was hardcore! The local video store where I rented "Das Boot" from wasn't nearly that anal about it but this was around 1989 so I think those deposit requirements were done away with so they could compete with Blockbuster. The overdue fees were a real killer though so I had to make sure to always return the movie in time! **Old man mode on** Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it with streaming services! **Old man mode off**
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#4502226 - 01/01/20 11:46 AM
Re: Movies you are confident will never be exceeded
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Modern-era western: Open Range. Love that movie.
Don’t know if it fits into a single category, but Shawshank Redemption is my favourite story of friendship in adversity. What a movie that is. Never fail to get a lump in my throat when Red walks down the beach.
In all my years I've never seen the like. It has to be more than a hundred sea miles and he brings us up on his tail. That's seamanship, Mr. Pullings. My God, that's seamanship!
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