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#4036433 - 11/15/14 10:22 PM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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Ghost_swe
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Id like to know what planet the devs lives on? The fact that they(Han) pretty much calls everyone an idiot makes me think they have no clue (tell me it aint so  ). The devs decisions kind of confirms that. Dont think iv ever seen a developer (whos not russian, seems to be a tradition over there) openly giving the costumer base the middle finger the way they do. I know a lot of people say that they wont play anymore or wont pay a dime again, in rage, and end up doing it anyway. Difference for me is that im not raging but i say the same thing, i wont give them anymore money even if the bring me the moon. I do not/will not support something/someone i have no respect for. Sheer stupidity and arrogance tend to have that effect on me. I do not have neither the time or will for it. The fact that its a flight sim makes no difference to me, i don't like it i wont buy it, simple.
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#4036450 - 11/15/14 11:21 PM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
[Re: HeinKill]
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Unless they make a major shift, which appears highly unlikely at this point, they will not get another dime from me. They fooled me once, they won't be doing it again...
Don
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#4036610 - 11/16/14 12:47 PM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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dburne
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For me, the gold bar has become a mark of shame. Agreed!
Don
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#4036834 - 11/16/14 11:37 PM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
[Re: HeinKill]
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Well I did what the devs suggested this afternoon while reinstalling Win on my wife's machine, ran my Heinkel through campaign on autopilot until I got the 1800 kg bomb. That plus 16 SC50s makes for a nice surprise for the red base in multiplayer so I went onto a Euro server for an hour or so.
Flew about ten sorties, climbing to 2000m mostly, but also tried to sneak in low level. Result:
Bombs on target 4/10
Shot down by AAA 6/10
Shot down by fighters 3/10
Rammed 1/10
Made it back to base 0
When you are the only bomber in the sky and no one cares to escort you, every run is a suicide run.
But it was kinda fun even so. Enjoy flying the BoS He111. Would enjoy it even more if I could muster up an escort! I enjoyed doing very low level unescorted Ju88 mission in the original IL-2. I believe there were many historical single aircraft low level bomber mission flown over England by the LW, hitting dams etc. Personally I didn't mind being unescorted, if my escort didn't fly low enough they just attracted unwanted attention. The missions were quite survivable in IL-2, in COD they were a death wish, but haven't tried it in BOS yet. I'm waiting for the Oculus Rift consumer version, and improvement to DCS WW2, BOS, and COD V5 before venturing back into gaming.
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#4036968 - 11/17/14 12:08 PM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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F19_Klunk
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For me, the gold bar has become a mark of shame. Agreed! I don't know whether to laugh or cry about all this silliness......
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#4037223 - 11/17/14 08:32 PM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
[Re: HeinKill]
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Chivas
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The forums are mainly filled with positive and negative overreactions to any perceived action. Developers seldom overreact to any negativity as its usually a lose/lose situation. Jason/Loft haven't figured that out yet. Its very difficult to make enough profit to continue the development in such a small genre, so Jason is paranoid about any bad publicity that could hurt sales. While Loft appears to unwittingly lump all the community with the negative spammers, although mis-translations, and mis-interpretations could be a huge factor in that appearance.
In the end is about having a good product with plenty of options to suit most levels of play. That takes time, and money. The developers message should be that, yes the current options are limited, but its early days, and we hope to continue the development of the series, with more options. Respond too constructive criticism, and ignore the negative spam.
Nothing is written in stone with the continuation of series, its full of bug fixes, new content, new features, new options, that usually apply from the first edition to the last. Its all good, and constructive criticism can, and will change the evolution of BOS, COD, and DCS.
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EVGA GTX980Ti
Oculus Rift
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#4037293 - 11/17/14 10:24 PM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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The forums are mainly filled with positive and negative overreactions to any perceived action. Developers seldom overreact to any negativity as its usually a lose/lose situation. Jason/Loft haven't figured that out yet. Its very difficult to make enough profit to continue the development in such a small genre, so Jason is paranoid about any bad publicity that could hurt sales. While Loft appears to unwittingly lump all the community with the negative spammers, although mis-translations, and mis-interpretations could be a huge factor in that appearance.
In the end is about having a good product with plenty of options to suit most levels of play. That takes time, and money. The developers message should be that, yes the current options are limited, but its early days, and we hope to continue the development of the series, with more options. Respond too constructive criticism, and ignore the negative spam.
Nothing is written in stone with the continuation of series, its full of bug fixes, new content, new features, new options, that usually apply from the first edition to the last. Its all good, and constructive criticism can, and will change the evolution of BOS, COD, and DCS. I vote for you as new Zoo Keeper....ermmm Community Manager over there  Comrade 
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#4037379 - 11/18/14 02:12 AM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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Jason is paranoid about any bad publicity that could hurt sales. If it was your business that was on the line and you that was subjected to the crap he's had to put up with, you too would probably be miffed with certain elements of the community.
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#4037383 - 11/18/14 02:23 AM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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For me, the gold bar has become a mark of shame. Agreed! I don't know whether to laugh or cry about all this silliness...... You might as well laugh...
Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.
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#4037384 - 11/18/14 02:25 AM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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Jason is paranoid about any bad publicity that could hurt sales. If it was your business that was on the line and you that was subjected to the crap he's had to put up with, you too would probably be miffed with certain elements of the community. Remove the childish, and arcade "unlocks" and most would be happy.
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#4037414 - 11/18/14 04:27 AM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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Jason is paranoid about any bad publicity that could hurt sales. If it was your business that was on the line and you that was subjected to the crap he's had to put up with, you too would probably be miffed with certain elements of the community. Remove the childish, and arcade "unlocks" and most would be happy. What if it was not that simple.. What if it was either out of his control or so deeply embedded in the code that it was not as simple as a few hours of programming? Has anyone considered that? Truth be told... if all this drama is over unlocks ... that says a lot about this community considering the levels to which this whole thing has gone to across the board...
Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.
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#4037439 - 11/18/14 07:10 AM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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c'mon, better than that can be done... the question is; why have "unlocks' (supposedly for the purpose of orientation, ie how to fly a plane) when they be fast forwarded through??
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Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina
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#4037446 - 11/18/14 07:49 AM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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What if it was not that simple.. What if it was either out of his control or so deeply embedded in the code that it was not as simple as a few hours of programming? Has anyone considered that?
Unless you've got proof, this is just pointless supposition.
Truth be told... if all this drama is over unlocks ... that says a lot about this community considering the levels to which this whole thing has gone to across the board...
Yes, once again it's the entire community who's in the wrong here. Not the developers who refuse to listen to their customers. Ever think that perhaps it's you? You seem to relish sitting in judgement of everyone else here. Ever consider that maybe, just maybe it's not everyone else who's in the wrong here. Maybe you've become so invested in defending this product and generally just being contrarian that you've lost any objectivity you may have once had?
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#4037450 - 11/18/14 08:04 AM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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careful, else you be accused of just "latching onto statements" and taking those 'out of context"... or have some sort of weird man crush thing going
remember, the mod is his old friend
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“Hypocrisy in anything whatever may deceive the cleverest and most penetrating man, but the least wide-awake of children recognizes it, and is revolted by it, however ingeniously it may be disguised.”
Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina
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#4037461 - 11/18/14 09:56 AM
Re: Battle of Stalingrad review
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I have little problems with the unlocks, but without a full mission editor my interest is waning quickly.
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