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#1773504 - 07/10/06 01:23 AM
Re: Serious flaws with Allied Force / Falcon 4.0
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Likewise - I think I'd struggle with the stuff you're doing. Edited my post above (the last bit). I tend to write then edit.  if you think the cheaters and hackers are beyond tweaking data after its been sent, circumventing the ACP checks, and the like, you are sadly underestimating them. I certainly don't.  --TangoShadow
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#1773505 - 07/10/06 01:42 AM
Re: Serious flaws with Allied Force / Falcon 4.0
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Originally posted by TangoShadow: Likewise - I think I'd struggle with the stuff you're doing. Edited my post above (the last bit). I tend to write then edit.
The hardest stuff about scientific programming is not actually the programming language, but how to implement a numerical algorithm properly using whatever computer language. And then there is the issue of implementing it efficiently. The actual coding aspect of scientific computing is often pretty simple. For example, you'd never waste your time building a GUI for some CFD test code that might never see the outside of your hard drive. Most of the programs I've written just look like a bunch of function calls and loops and strange looking equations within these multiple for loops. Lots of multidimensional arrays. Not hard to understand from a coding standpoint and not very difficult to implement most of the time either.
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#1773509 - 07/11/06 02:56 AM
Re: Serious flaws with Allied Force / Falcon 4.0
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This is from memory, forgive me if I miss something.... using System;
using System.Security.Cryptography;
using System.IO;
namespace Test
{
static class Class1
{
static public byte[] LockFileGetMD5(string filePath)
{
FileStream fs = File.Open(filePath, FileMode.Open, FileAccess.Read);
fs.Lock(0, fs.Length);
MD5CryptoServiceProvider md5 = new MD5CryptoServiceProvider();
byte[] myHash = md5.ComputeHash(fs);
return myHash;
}
}
}
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#1773510 - 07/11/06 10:39 AM
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This whole topic is full of flames, flamebaits and trolling IMHO.
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way,
that you actually look forward to the trip.
-- Caskie Stinnet
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#1773511 - 07/11/06 07:27 PM
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It has since calmed down.
At this point were waiting on a response from LP.
-CenterMass
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#1773513 - 07/12/06 12:18 AM
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As with FPShooters,
Ive learned that the only cheat free environment
is simming with buddies who have accountability
and personal relationships that are more important than egos and online victories.
For every code measure, there will be a countermeasure.
Which is why I fly with folks I know and trust.
At the end of the day, its all about having fun,
isnt it?
If we cannot trust eachother, whats the point.
AV8R
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#1773514 - 07/12/06 01:06 AM
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Hi, One thing that I think might have got missed, is as you said: For every code measure, there will be a countermeasure. Very true, and what I've been trying to say. You'll never stop the hardcore hackers out there, but you can make it harder for those who would have tweaked the odd file. Ultimately, LP need to tighten Falcon. ACPs are only ever a work-around to a problem. --TangoShadow
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#1773515 - 07/12/06 04:42 PM
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AV8R,
I agree with you to a point, however, for me I personally enjoy meeting new people, from all different backgrounds and countries and developing new friendships. Further, I personally enjoy competing with others to test my skills, as well as to learn from others who have developed thier skills independant from those I have had contact with. For example, in the IDL we have almost an entire wing of guys from Turkey, who are excellent pilots and DF'ers, who I would have never met, but for the open competition of the IDL. I have learned many new techniques from my interaction wiht these guys.
I feel that once the ACP is done and\or Falcon patches the "tweak" problems, that these types of "open" competitions will grow the Falcon community, while bringing together many different cultures and backgrounds.
Just my POV.
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#1773516 - 07/13/06 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by AV8R:
As with FPShooters,
Ive learned that the only cheat free environment
is simming with buddies who have accountability
and personal relationships that are more important than egos and online victories.
For every code measure, there will be a countermeasure.
Which is why I fly with folks I know and trust.
At the end of the day, its all about having fun,
isnt it?
If we cannot trust eachother, whats the point. There is another way. Simply don't play online. Most PC games, including flight sim enthusiasts, rarely if ever play online. Most people are offline gamers, so this isn't a crisis.
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#1773517 - 07/13/06 05:39 AM
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CenterMass
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Originally posted by Plainsman:
There is another way. Simply don't play online. Most PC games, including flight sim enthusiasts, rarely if ever play online. Most people are offline gamers, so this isn't a crisis. This is just ridiculous. Makes me laugh. 
-CenterMass
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#1773518 - 07/13/06 01:36 PM
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Hi, Most PC games, including flight sim enthusiasts, rarely if ever play online. I'd like to see your research on that!! Ever heard of Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Games (MMORPGs)? Hundereds of thousands of gamers, all playing in a single online world??? Damn. That isn't much at all! XBox Live. The list goes on............... --TangoShadow
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#1773521 - 07/14/06 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by CenterMass: Originally posted by Plainsman:
There is another way. Simply don't play online. Most PC games, including flight sim enthusiasts, rarely if ever play online. Most people are offline gamers, so this isn't a crisis. Here's a quote from the CEO of LP: Froglips: Fair enough. That is a real balance. One of the things that I will let you in on is that the online community represents somewhere between 5-10% of our total sales. It is really eye opening when you study the demographics and marketing research that we have carried out with the help of Atari and Graphsim to understand what we are selling and where we are selling it. Frankly if you can believe this, about 9 out of 10 people who would buy Falcon would not even be aware that there was a patch option available unless it was built in as an auto-patcher. -PumpyHead
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#1773522 - 07/14/06 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by PumpyHead: Originally posted by CenterMass: Originally posted by Plainsman:
There is another way. Simply don't play online. Most PC games, including flight sim enthusiasts, rarely if ever play online. Most people are offline gamers, so this isn't a crisis.
Froglips: Fair enough. That is a real balance. One of the things that I will let you in on is that the online community represents somewhere between 5-10% of our total sales. It is really eye opening when you study the demographics and marketing research that we have carried out with the help of Atari and Graphsim to understand what we are selling and where we are selling it. Frankly if you can believe this, about 9 out of 10 people who would buy Falcon would not even be aware that there was a patch option available unless it was built in as an auto-patcher. Why not post the link whre this post came from instead of one quote that can be taken out of context? This one quote alone is meaningless.
-CenterMass
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