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#4404616 - 02/11/18 03:40 AM Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album  
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My favorite debut album, with Led Zeppelin not far behind.

#4404621 - 02/11/18 04:25 AM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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No doubt...They just don"t make them like that anymore...

#4404670 - 02/11/18 05:34 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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My top favorite debut albums:

1. “Core” Stone Temple Pilots
2. “Hybrid Theory” Linkin Park
3. “Jagged Little Pill” Alannis Morrisette
4. Outlandos d'Amour“ The Police


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#4404671 - 02/11/18 05:52 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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My two favorite debuts that come to my mind are "Van Halen" and "Boston".



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4404672 - 02/11/18 05:57 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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Boston’s debut album was phenomenal. So phenomenal in fact that they could never replicate that success.


“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
#4404673 - 02/11/18 06:07 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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Commercially, no. But I'm always up for some "Don't Look Back" (entire album) and even "Third Stage".

Couldn't the same be said about VH though? Did any follow-up album really match their debut in overall awesomeness?

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EDIT: This pic was talking about DLR VH, I'm also a fan of Sammy (with and without VH).

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The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4404674 - 02/11/18 06:31 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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I think many fans would place “1984” right up there with their debut album.


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#4404683 - 02/11/18 07:58 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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I’d have to say my favorite debut albums are:

Chicago Transit Authority
Dio - Holy Diver*
Iron Maiden
King Diamond - Fatal Portrait
Asia
Styx

*Solo debut, he’d obviously made albums prior to this.


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#4404686 - 02/11/18 08:11 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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Favorite debut album:

Queen - Queen
The Alarm - Declaraction

#4404689 - 02/11/18 09:07 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I think many fans would place “1984” right up there with their debut album.

Count me in as one of those fans. thumbsup

But not everyone here feels this way...

"Rock is currently dead... Van Halen brought it back in 78' till about 81' " - Re: Did Rock & Roll die in 2015?

...and I can understand this opinion, being that 2 of the 4 radio hits on 1984 were so synth heavy (assuming that's part of the reason, remembering complaints when I was in high school).

I listen to "1984" at least as much as "Van Halen".




The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4404694 - 02/11/18 09:49 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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Count me as on of the fan's that didn't care for 1984. I didn't even buy it. And I love/loved Van Halen. My first 4 vinyl albums were VH, VHII, WACF and Fair Warning.Ted Nugent broke the VH streak.

1984 was too poppy for my liking. Not to mention it was overplayed on radio/MTV.

I put Van Halen's first 5 albums up against anyone else's first 5. Zeppelin maybe the only contender.

#4404695 - 02/11/18 09:54 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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Gun's n Roses had a pretty solid debut as well. Even though we have probably heard the songs to many times by now.

#4404698 - 02/11/18 10:18 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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Yeah, I was also thinking about "Appetite for Destruction". I have some seriously good memories with that album. wink

But I put Rush's first 8 albums (10 if you count concert albums) against anyone else's...

Rush
Fly By Night
Caress Of Steel
2112
All The World's A Stage (concert)
A Farewell To Kings
Hemispheres
Permanent Waves
Moving Pictures
Exit...Stage Left (concert)

...and I don't even have girlfriend/fiancé nostalgia with Rush, it's just that awesome! biggrin



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4404702 - 02/11/18 11:04 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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Killers
The Number of the Beast
Piece of Mind
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#4404737 - 02/12/18 12:24 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
Yeah, I was also thinking about "Appetite for Destruction". I have some seriously good memories with that album. wink

But I put Rush's first 8 albums (10 if you count concert albums) against anyone else's...

Rush
Fly By Night
Caress Of Steel
2112
All The World's A Stage (concert)
A Farewell To Kings
Hemispheres
Permanent Waves
Moving Pictures
Exit...Stage Left (concert)

...and I don't even have girlfriend/fiancé nostalgia with Rush, it's just that awesome! biggrin




Their first 10 albums really does represent their creative height. Let's be honest here, how many memorable songs did they write after 1990? I can barely think of any.


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#4404748 - 02/12/18 02:37 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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"Boy" by U2 is a great debut album - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_(album)

Some of my favorite U2 songs to listen to often are on this one:

The Electric Co.


An Cat Dubh


Stories for Boys


and one I crank every time - I Will Follow


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I Will Follow
Twilight
An Cat Dubh
Into the Heart
Out of COntrol
Stories for Boys
The Ocean
A Day WIthout Me
Another Time, Another Place
The Electric Co.
Shadows and Tall Trees


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#4405147 - 02/14/18 03:18 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by MarkG
Yeah, I was also thinking about "Appetite for Destruction". I have some seriously good memories with that album. wink

But I put Rush's first 8 albums (10 if you count concert albums) against anyone else's...

Rush
Fly By Night
Caress Of Steel
2112
All The World's A Stage (concert)
A Farewell To Kings
Hemispheres
Permanent Waves
Moving Pictures
Exit...Stage Left (concert)

...and I don't even have girlfriend/fiancé nostalgia with Rush, it's just that awesome! biggrin

Their first 10 albums really does represent their creative height. Let's be honest here, how many memorable songs did they write after 1990? I can barely think of any.

1974 - 1990 is still a pretty good run. smile

When "Roll the Bones" was released in 1991, I was living in Atlanta and at the time 96 Rock was playing "Dreamline", "Roll the Bones" and "Ghost of a Chance" pretty regularly. And that was after playing Presto (1989) "Show Don't Tell", "The Pass" and "Presto" on a regular basis. I believe "Roll the Bones" is the cutoff for their mainstream success, but that still covers 14 out of 20 studio albums, so not so shabby.

My problem with those final albums isn't the songs as much as the quality of production on some of them, especially Vapor Trails (2002). They all needed the Terry Brown touch like the earlier albums, IMO.

Honestly, I like them all. "Test For Echo" probably gets the most hate, but it's also one I regularly load on the Shuffle, maybe because I never wore it out. smile Lots of catchy stuff in there that helps to get my feet moving.



The rusty wire that holds the cork that keeps the anger in
Gives way and suddenly it’s day again
The sun is in the east
Even though the day is done
Two suns in the sunset, hmph
Could be the human race is run
#4405149 - 02/14/18 03:37 PM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: MarkG]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG

1974 - 1990 is still a pretty good run. smile

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Oh absolutely and most bands would KILL to have success on that level.


I just find it interesting how all bands have their creative height where they crank out song after song where you listen to them once and they immediately stick to your memory. In other words, they are songs that become classics and leave an indelible mark on your brain. Eventually though, these same bands start putting out songs that are just "ok" and unremarkable. You listen to the song but then a few days later you completely forget about it.


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#4405237 - 02/15/18 01:01 AM Re: Happy 40th Anniversary to one hell of a debut album [Re: WangoTango]  
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Originally Posted by MarkG
My problem with those final albums isn't the songs as much as the quality of production on some of them, especially Vapor Trails (2002). They all needed the Terry Brown touch like the earlier albums, IMO.


Absolutely! Though I don’t think it’s so much a Terry Brown thing, since everything between Signals and Counterparts had extremely good production. After that the loudness wars really took off, and I’ll never understand why the guys didn’t tell their producers “NO. Make it crisp & clean like our previous albums! This sounds like you recorded it on a mono cassette deck from an AM radio turned all the way up.”

Snakes & Arrows had good production, IMO, but I don’t know about CA because I haven’t been able to get into it enough to actually listen for the production. T4E & VT, though? Blah.

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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I think many fans would place “1984” right up there with their debut album.

I would be one of those fans. yep


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