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#3575219 - 05/18/12 11:04 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted By: Polovski
Music does not play during flight anyway.
All Matt's great music is for manager menus and movies etc smile




I sit and listen to the music for Between Heaven and Hell for HOURS! It gets me very inspired! This new music will also get me pumped up and immersed in the world of WWI. Matt, you are a genius!!!


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#3575222 - 05/18/12 11:07 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Ramblingsid -thanks for the comments. Let me know re the ivibe smile

Olham - yes the damaged craft stay there.



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#3575231 - 05/18/12 11:21 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Nice to see familiar faces.

I can honestly say that I
didn't really notice the music
(sorry Matt), I was too engrossed
in the movie. WOFF is going to be
so damn good.

Hey, now I have an excuse to watch
it again.

#3575232 - 05/18/12 11:22 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Oh btw I also posted a link to the movie in the "Screenshot & Video Gallery" forum:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3575213/
You guys can post screenshots there too and cross post back to here or vice versa too if you like.

The "Screenshot & Video Gallery" forum is: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/1/1/Screenshot_Video_Gallery.html

There is also an area for "After Action Reports" for any sim http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/category/1/SimHQ_Community.html
Again you can post links in here to there or whatever if you post.


Last edited by Polovski; 05/19/12 07:41 PM.

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#3575237 - 05/18/12 11:28 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Did anyone else notice that in the new DM, the parts of the wings and such that have had the canvas torn away are not mere decals but rather you can actually see right through the holes into the scenery below, etc? I forgot to mention that in my previous post. A very nice step forward indeed for the DM and for immersion in general!

As for the name, I must admit that it's nice but believe it or not, I prefer "Over Flanders Fields 2" also. If for no other reason than you could name the first expansion "Weaponized Aerial Recon". Then we'd have "OFF 2 WAR".

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#3575245 - 05/18/12 11:46 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: RamblingSid]  
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Originally Posted By: RamblingSid
I can honestly say that I didn't really notice the music


great, that's what's supposed to happen. It's there to explain what's going on, if you understand what you're seeing, it's done its job. music is a bit like lighting, it affects what you're seeing, but you don't notice it unless you specifically look for it.


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#3575275 - 05/19/12 12:16 AM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: matmilne]  
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Hi Mat,

yes, it's very nice work.

I used to have the music off in P3.
But I turned it back on again because
I found it made a difference.

Cheers

#3575539 - 05/19/12 02:47 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Originally Posted By: Polovski


Olham - yes the damaged craft stay there.



Fantastic.

#3575564 - 05/19/12 04:46 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Pol, Winder, and crew:

This honestly looks stunning! I don't know how on earth you've managed to extract so much detail, texture quality, and fidelity from this aging graphics engine but you have. The atmosphere, the quality of the aircraft both inside and out, and the look and feel of the new sim are just staggering. Planes no longer seem to be moving through the air - rather they seem to be floating on it as they do in real life. The movement of the planes when dogfighting just look right - like something out of an airshow or some rare WWI footage. And Matt's score is just staggering! I haven't heard such an evocative soundtrack in a long time - really great stuff.

I just hope my 4 year old gaming rig will be able to run it! Cheers guys and keep the previews coming.

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#3575621 - 05/19/12 06:56 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Well I think that the CFS3 engine (and all other flight simulator engines from ACES/Microsoft) are extremely underated since IMO these engines are between best flight engines ever made because they have a combo of capabilities such as "total moddability", excelent physics, good flight models, excelent graphics, very large maps, multiplayer and as far as I remember there's NO other flight sim engine that has all these capabilities together in a "single package".
Unfortunally Microsoft sims "stock" content usually comes in a very "uncompleted" state (Modded stuff is usually much better than Stock ones) and this is IMO the reason why people trend to think that the Microsoft sim engines such as the CFS3 engines are "limited". It's just like ACES/Microsoft spent 95% of the time developing the engine and only 5% developing the rest of the content, this seems specially to be the case regarding CFS3.

For example I noticed that in the case of RoF, their devs are going to change/update in the next patch/update so that the RoF engine will be capable to handle seaplanes, a capability that CFS3 always had since "day one"! For example and I remeber that OFF Phase 1 and 2 already had a seaplane.

#3575691 - 05/19/12 08:31 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Olham]  
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Originally Posted By: Olham
JIM, I know better what you mean, than you may think.
Music is the direct connection with my emotional me - with no filters inbetween.
I can get totally "lost" in some pieces, without ever feeling lost.
And I sure would not listen to music in a cockpit of a plane -
here I would want my concentration on my vision - on all I can catch with my eyes.

In films, the music can often bring the emotions to even higher peaks than the pictures
alone ever could. In "Over Flanders Fields", Matt Milne's opening title, and his
"menue music" both brought me back in time about 90 years, when I didn't even know
anything much about the air war over Flanders.
And the music transported a respectful encounter with all those fallen men, and those
who lived to tell the stories - without taking sides, but very serious and honouring.
I guess my English is not good enough to find even better words.

For above reasons, the musical score of "Over Flanders Fields" belongs to the sim.
It puts me in a flying suit; it wipes the arrogance off my goggled face, and
it makes me feel respect and pity for those I send down. No less.
Talk about power of music...


Here, here!!! Well said, Olham! I could not agree more. This is something missing from the Russian build sims (DCS, IL2, etc.). Technically excellent but lacking immersion. Lacking...a soul. OFF has it, and now WOFF.


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#3575986 - 05/20/12 11:48 AM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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#3576038 - 05/20/12 01:24 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Love the vid Pol.

Got me thinking about the vewpoints you managed, which is deceptively difficult with CFS3. People who haven't tried don't know how hard it is to capture footage in CFS3 land. You have to do everything manually, there's only ever one take and there's no such thing as a multiple viewpoint. For every Mb you see in a movie, you can be sure there's a Gb left on the cutting room floor. - And I mean Gigs of it!

I love Matt's music too. To me, it's as good and as appropriate to the mood of OFF as any music score I've ever heard to a movie. Yet again, I used to make a few CFS3 movies for youtube, but not many OFF movies because the sound just wasn't 'doing it' for me. I don't mean the OFF sound, but trying to find 'fitting' music. One of the reasons I like that Boys of 60 movie is the pipes playing in the background which wasn't added soundtrack but one of Stumpjumpers addons.

#3576076 - 05/20/12 02:47 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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It was one of the challenges in scoring woff. Too cheesy, corny and cliched and it becomes downright disrespectful very quickly, too atmospheric or percussive and it sucks the life out of it leaving the player unsupported.
The custom track partially solved those problems for the trailers, and helps the editing a bit.


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#3576287 - 05/20/12 08:51 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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New video looks sharp and I like the new name WOFF. Short, simple, and keeps the original OFF in the title. Besides, it sounds just like the noise my dog makes when he barks (he barks with a lisp mind you).

#3576355 - 05/20/12 11:18 PM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Thanks for the comment guys, btw I updated the first movie (preview 1#) there's a couple of extra clips in there now - it's below this one on our news page.

Quite right Flyby I film all the time, so have hard drives full of vid but we update things all the time so I have to ignore a lot of it as it's now "old" even the 2 week old stuff wink


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#3576397 - 05/21/12 12:19 AM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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Hi Matt. As a classically-trained but amateur composer, I'm curious if any historical music of the time period had any influence on your scoring. We're used to anachronistic music in movies and such, but audiences from say 1914 would probably freak out at your trailer tune.

Interesting thing is you can almost hear WW1 in some of the music just prior, as if some composers could see it coming. Arnold Schoenberg's Three Piano Pieces (op 11) from 1909 and their emancipation of dissonance is a perfect example.


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#3576453 - 05/21/12 02:03 AM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Polovski]  
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i'm hoping to create a separate thread on the score and how it was put together post-release.
but in short, I wrote the whole thing from one screenshot. As a rule of thumb, you should always score what's in front of you from what's in front of you.


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#3576455 - 05/21/12 02:10 AM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: Lothar_of_the_Hill_People]  
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Originally Posted By: Lothar_ofthe_Hill_People
Interesting thing is you can almost hear WW1 in some of the music just prior, as if some composers could see it coming. Arnold Schoenberg's Three Piano Pieces (op 11) from 1909 and their emancipation of dissonance is a perfect example.

Art reflects the period in which she's created. The world was changing fast politically, economically, morally, technologically and scientifically. It's the end of Romanticism, the beginning of a new era.
Everything seemed to plot in favor of a apocalyptic event like WWI, that I'm sure a lot of artists sensed that. It's also true, that it's in these periods that usually the artistic "grammars" are rewritten.

#3576531 - 05/21/12 06:24 AM Re: NEW PREVIEW MOVIE 2 ! * * [Re: matmilne]  
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Originally Posted By: matmilne
i'm hoping to create a separate thread on the score and how it was put together post-release.
but in short, I wrote the whole thing from one screenshot. As a rule of thumb, you should always score what's in front of you from what's in front of you.



I very much look forward to that thread, Matt.


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