#3269457 - 04/14/11 03:49 AM
2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
 
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*UPDATE* Flea has released an update to his checklists here: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3342810/Aircraft_Operations_Checklists.htmlThis thread has been locked. Please go to the thread above for questions/comments. My squad-mate Flea has been, like many folks, combing teh internets for WWII-applicable data for months now, in anticipation of IL2: COD and has compiled a very impressive set of data sheets (MS Excel 2007). They're based on his current knowledge and expectations (i.e., without having touched the game!) so please append the appropriate caveats, assumptions, and disclaimers to the work. Unfortunately, he's never been able to get his 2GvSAP FTP to work, so I've *graciously* volunteered to upload the document to my FTP and post the link for him (see below). http://www.2gvsap.org/einstein/attach/2GvSAP_Fleas_COD_Data_Sheets.zipThe data sheets include Flea's preliminary HOTAS and keyboard layout, a full command list, ammo data (including historical loadouts), gunsight and convergence data, and a number of 1 page checklists/fast info sheets for some of the playable aircraft (Spit I Late, Spit II A, Hurri I Early, Hurri I Late, Me 109E, Me 110C-4, and the Ju 87 B2 v2). The info sheets contain useful data like Vspeeds, boost/rpm settings, and oil/coolant pressure/temp limits. I'm quite impressed with them, and hope you'll find them useful. As always, please post feedback comments here on the forum or you can PM Flea directly. Enjoy! 18 April 2011: Here are Flea's updated checklists. This attachment includes the checklists only, and not all of Flea's other data sheets. http://www.2gvsap.org/einstein/attach/2GvSAP_Flea_CoD_Checklists_R11.zip
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#3269493 - 04/14/11 04:44 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Great work, just what is needed might load it on my phone for easy access until I get used to CEM etc.
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#3269767 - 04/14/11 01:47 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Thanks a bunch to Flea-Einstein for this, treasure trove of information.  I did some research myself the other night into historical early/late RAF ammo loadouts and had the same findings, good stuff.
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#3269771 - 04/14/11 01:51 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Woha! Great work.. looks very impressive! Too bad we don't have the E-4/FF/M/Minengeschoss (yet?)...  Also: The 110 seems to get into trouble long before it reaches the stated speeds. At ~480kph IAS at fairly low alt, it starts shaking wildly in a dive for me with the needle bouncing around like mad. Managed to rip a wing off at roughly 550-560 kph IAS. S.
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#3269779 - 04/14/11 02:05 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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#3269823 - 04/14/11 02:56 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Thank you gentlemen ! I have been waiting for someone to publish something similar, and Flea's datasheet are just perfect !
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#3270422 - 04/15/11 01:20 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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#3271669 - 04/16/11 12:08 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Much, much more than an outstanding job! Congrats and many thanks for your dedicated effort. My best and most respectful regards, pato. 
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#3272222 - 04/17/11 09:31 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Magnificent ! Many hanks guys for sharing such quality work !!!!!!! 
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#3272358 - 04/17/11 03:22 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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On Monday, 18 April, I hope to update this thread with expanded aircraft checklists. The Aircraft Operating Data posted/linked at the beginning of this thread was actually only page one of four that I derived from the actual Pilot's Note's and Aircraft Handbuchs. I took the narrative format of the originals and converted them into a checklist format while trying to maintain the feel and language of the original. Again, since I created these prior to the release of the game, I didn't know which aircraft versions to create, but I have expanded checklists for the Spitfire MkI Early (Merlin II 87 Octane with fixed pitch prop), Spitfire MkI Late (Merlin III 100 Octane with CSP), Spitfire MkII (Merlin XII with CSP), Hurricane MkI Early (Merlin II 87 Octane with fixed pitch prop), Hurricane MkI Late (Merlin III 100 Octane with CSP), and the Bf109E.
I need to check the version numbers of the files and one last scrub for typos, and I'll get them to Einstein to post as an edit to the original post.
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#3272403 - 04/17/11 04:54 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Thank you very much. Looking forward to the amendments. I do appreciate the work that you must have put in this. Thumbs up for you sir. 
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#3272436 - 04/17/11 05:51 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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On Monday, 18 April, I hope to update this thread with expanded aircraft checklists. The Aircraft Operating Data posted/linked at the beginning of this thread was actually only page one of four that I derived from the actual Pilot's Note's and Aircraft Handbuchs. I took the narrative format of the originals and converted them into a checklist format while trying to maintain the feel and language of the original. Again, since I created these prior to the release of the game, I didn't know which aircraft versions to create, but I have expanded checklists for the Spitfire MkI Early (Merlin II 87 Octane with fixed pitch prop), Spitfire MkI Late (Merlin III 100 Octane with CSP), Spitfire MkII (Merlin XII with CSP), Hurricane MkI Early (Merlin II 87 Octane with fixed pitch prop), Hurricane MkI Late (Merlin III 100 Octane with CSP), and the Bf109E.
I need to check the version numbers of the files and one last scrub for typos, and I'll get them to Einstein to post as an edit to the original post. Good stuff. I'll either revise the PDF and those quick-look screen captures or edit them out to prevent confusion too. Would love to hear your thoughts when you get to sim on what you think of the FM - some of the parameters seem, um, a little liberal in accuracy.
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#3273802 - 04/19/11 02:44 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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*bump
Added Flea's updated Aircraft checklists.
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#3273991 - 04/19/11 10:57 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Here's to hoping that this is an overwhelming response. Invaluable stuff. Thumbs up again. This is becoming the flip cards I hoped it would be. Muchas gracias 
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#3274788 - 04/20/11 03:40 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Ok, I've uploaded a new PDF of all the checklists to here (plus updated the earlier post with a link) PDF: http://www.mediafire.com/?rn8dx6k71dow0rrIf you haven't checked out the first post in this thread, and the two excel files then here's a flavor of the good stuff that Flea authored: 
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#3274989 - 04/20/11 11:58 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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This is fantastic!!! Thankyou so much!
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#3275752 - 04/21/11 02:40 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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#3322640 - 06/19/11 09:14 PM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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All right guys, I'm planning on publishing a new set of checklists/datasheets to coincide with the N.A. release of COD. I have added a 4 page checklist for the Blenheim MkIV and a one pager for the Ju88A. I have updated the ammunition loadout pages to reflect in game nomenclature and gun numbers. But I need some help.
I am not progressing as quickly as I would like, so I am turning to you guys. I want to make sure the checklists are as applicable to the game as possible. My plan was to methodically test each aircraft to the checklist and identify which procedures do not apply (for example: I already know that the British primer pumps are non functioning), and to ensure that the real life procedures these checklists were created from work in the game. I am also trying to identify which ammunition creates a smoke trail. My research says only phosphorus based incendiary rounds should smoke upon exiting the muzzle, but with the loadout issues, I have been unable to verify this.
So if any of you would want to help me test these procedures, and to create video "Welcome to the Spitfire/How to Fly Your 109" training films based on these procedures, please PM me. I'll keep plugging away at this, but I'm still only getting about 1.5 hours of sim time per week to work on this (plus every bit of down/lunch time at work I can squeeze in).
Oh, are there any German speakers who would like to do some translating for me? I need help with Me110, Ju87, He111 and Me108 manuals. Transcribing from a pdf (and that awful font they used for some docs) into Google translate is slow. And a bit confusing at times.
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#3342948 - 07/16/11 08:49 AM
Re: 2GvSAP Flea's Data Sheets for CoD
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Excellent Work, Einstein & FearlessFrog, I will add it to my personal "IL²-flying-instructions-manual" Chapeau
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