#4041186 - 11/25/14 10:44 PM
"Luisenhof Ferme" - Crash site of Lanoe Hawker
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Thank you, Dezh, for posting the new additions to the McMaster war map archives. With these maps I was now able to find the grounds of former "Luisenhof Ferme", the crash site of Major Lanoe Hawker. From Peter Kilduff: THE RED BARON - BEYOND THE LEGEND
"The two aeroplanes went lower and lower as Richthofen fought 'the most difficult battle ... that I
experienced thus far...' Then one of Richthofen's guns cleared and he fired right into the back
of his opponent. The DH.2 dropped into the mud about 250 m east of Luisenhof Ferme, a devastated farm
along the road to Flers, just south of Bapaume. A nearby German Grenadier unit pulled Hawker's body
from the wreckage and determined he had been killed by one shot in the back of the head.
Hawker was buried on the spot, with the broken DH.2 serving as a final monument." On 23 November 1916 the farm was already devastated, and it seems it was never rebuilt, but torn down. Still though, roads and field paths are recognisable, when you compare the field map with Google Earth. A big compilation of these three pictures as one, can be found here: Tableau Luisenhof Ferme    
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#4041368 - 11/26/14 05:19 AM
Re: "Luisenhof Ferme" - Crash site of Lanoe Hawker
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Awesome work on this one Olham. Is he still buried there? Is there some kind of monument? I would think a man of his stature to the history of British WWI aviation would have some kind of stone or something to represent his death in that field.
Thanks for posting!
James
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#4041430 - 11/26/14 10:41 AM
Re: "Luisenhof Ferme" - Crash site of Lanoe Hawker
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Part of the reason why this was MvR's most difficult battle to date was this was the first true fighter he had been up against. The DH2 was much more nimble than the FE2s, BE2s, BE12s, and G.100 he had downed previously, so Hawker's DH2 maneuvers to shake MvR were much more intense. Speaking of: For anybody interested, there is a brand new book available about MvR, full of new, previously unpublished photos and information:  It's Vol.5 of their excellent Blue Max Airmen Series. I assure you, if interested in MvR you will not be disappointed!  You can buy it on Amazon, but here's Aeronaut's website: http://www.aeronautbooks.com/ For the true student of WW1 aviation history, as most/all of us are, Aeronaut offers a cornucopia of books. Those pertaining to airplanes are much bigger than Albatros Datafiles, are packed with information, have bigger photos and more of them. The bulk of Aeronaut's topics focus on German aviation but it is my understand a new McCudden biography is forthcoming. BTW, Volume 6 of their Blue Max Airman Series, Werner Voss, is already underway.
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#4041439 - 11/26/14 10:54 AM
Re: "Luisenhof Ferme" - Crash site of Lanoe Hawker
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#4041459 - 11/26/14 12:15 PM
Re: "Luisenhof Ferme" - Crash site of Lanoe Hawker
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Thank you, guys ! Duke - good idea about the links or a re-posting. I'd need to find them all again firstly though - I'll make a search. Thanks OvS! This link below says there is no known grave. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9485851 Hawker's name is engraved on a memorial at the Faubourg-d'Amiens Cemetary. The Germans had buried him incl. a cross, but maybe the worst of war went over that site and ploughed it under? Or maybe only the wreckage and cross got lost, and he still lies in that ground... 
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#4041473 - 11/26/14 12:45 PM
Re: "Luisenhof Ferme" - Crash site of Lanoe Hawker
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The Hawker Memorial at Ligny-Thilloy:  The Hawker Window in St. Nicholas Church, Longparish, Hampshire, England:  No known grave but not uncommemorated.
Oh that I was back in the dear old PBI.
With no more Triplanes on me tail, nor tracer tracing by.
And no more flames and clickerty-clack and no more blooming sky,
And only a couple of feet to fall whenever I want to die.
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#4042234 - 11/27/14 05:45 PM
Re: "Luisenhof Ferme" - Crash site of Lanoe Hawker
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Part of the reason why this was MvR's most difficult battle to date was this was the first true fighter he had been up against. The DH2 was much more nimble than the FE2s, BE2s, BE12s, and G.100 he had downed previously, so Hawker's DH2 maneuvers to shake MvR were much more intense. Speaking of: For anybody interested, there is a brand new book available about MvR, full of new, previously unpublished photos and information: It's Vol.5 of their excellent Blue Max Airmen Series. I assure you, if interested in MvR you will not be disappointed! You can buy it on Amazon, but here's Aeronaut's website: http://www.aeronautbooks.com/ For the true student of WW1 aviation history, as most/all of us are, Aeronaut offers a cornucopia of books. Those pertaining to airplanes are much bigger than Albatros Datafiles, are packed with information, have bigger photos and more of them. The bulk of Aeronaut's topics focus on German aviation but it is my understand a new McCudden biography is forthcoming. BTW, Volume 6 of their Blue Max Airman Series, Werner Voss, is already underway. Oh my next book purchase was supposed to be "High in the Empty Blue." May have to toss a coin to determine #1 and #2 now. Thank for the info and link....and Go Blue!
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