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#2638068 - 12/21/08 01:16 AM New ROF Screenshots!  
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Hi Guys,

There's twelve new ROF screenshots to be seen on Media pages 3 & 4 of the official website, and I think you'll agree they're looking pretty amazing!

Be sure to see them all:

http://www.riseofflight.com/en/media3.html
http://www.riseofflight.com/en/media4.html

Here's just a few for starters.

US 94th Aero Nieuport 28 rotary-powered chasse biplane (and nice looking grass):



Nieuport 28 cockpit, with Jaeger RPM indicator center, just right of the synchronizing drive for the top Vickers MG (offset left):



French Spad 13, flying above some great looking clouds (and terrain too):



A Pfalz D.XII, an ROF model we haven't seen in a long time (looking great here airborne):



A dynamic dogfighting duo!



Last but not least, an N28 of the US 95th Aero's "Kicking Mules" trying to kick an Albatros off its tail.








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#2638096 - 12/21/08 02:14 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: FlyRetired]  
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Awesome! Thanks. Just posted an update on my site. You guys really have to check out some of the pics with the storm clouds: http://www.riseofflight.com/i/s/f/34.jpg

I know a lot of people were complaining about the clouds before, but those look awesome. Not sure how you wouldn't be happy with those.

#2638109 - 12/21/08 02:46 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: franksvalli]  
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Somebody pinch me I must be dreaming, that is absolutely beautiful

Did he ever catch the wounded plane he was trailing? Perhaps we'll never know.

Not without the video anyway hint Smile2

Will there be God Rays? Getting greedy now sorry

Thanks ever so much for keeping us up to date with these encouraging developments franksvalli and of course FR. Can't be long now

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#2638120 - 12/21/08 03:21 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: Ming_EAF19]  
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This screenshot too, showing the water surface details, which mirror-reflect the clouds and trees.

Reflecting Pools.


#2638169 - 12/21/08 07:22 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: FlyRetired]  
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Holy crap, I can already now see the FW-190-cockpit-bar-crowd descend like a swarm of vindictive locusts on that Nieuport windscreen! - Horrendous forward visibility!

...Hope this was for dead sure on all the Nieuports, because if not, then a lot of people will clamour for another version with a better forward view. And this is the one Entente plane that comes with the initial package? Auch.

Fantastic clouds and great screenies in general. Don't like the river's edge too much, looks like a mangrove forest, there should be a firmer edge, but that is nitpicking.


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#2638175 - 12/21/08 08:40 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: Freycinet]  
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That PFalz looks spectacular, almost like a photo. the detail is amazing.
I have to say I find it hard to see anything negative in this sim.

I know things aren't ideal in a lot of things we've seen. But I find myself comparing the game to what is already available to us flight simmers rather than to real life. Comparing it to real life and we will always see things that aren't quite right, compare it to IL2 or CFS3 or even FSX and it looks a hell of a lot better

Roll on Q2 2009, it must surely be out by then smile

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ROF is going to use up a lot of my spare time (soon to be known as quality time thumbsup)

#2638189 - 12/21/08 10:50 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: Brigstock]  
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I don't know that the FW-190 bar issue is a factor anymore. Now that cockpits are being built to support 6dof... if you want to raise your head, you'll have to pony up for TIR.

Damn, I thought we were still talking end of Q1 2009 for release date.

#2638191 - 12/21/08 11:24 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: tagTaken2]  
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Freycinet, the N.28 was the last of the wartime Nieuports to see combat.

(but I think the efficient windscreen was mounted so you could hear yourself scream above the wind) eek

Actually that's a great observation Freycinet, as in the field the windscreen was occasionally cut back to allow for better access to the MGs, and to increase the view.

(maybe that's an earned mod you'll be able to gain during your ROF flying career)

#2638255 - 12/21/08 02:44 PM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: FlyRetired]  
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Fantastic screenies, they just get better and better, there's some serious photo realism going on now. Loving the grass, Far Cry 2 has shown what can be done with modern hardware and dense grass effects. There's no reason why we shouldn't see similar immersive effects in flight sims.

Hmmmm, the view from the NP28 cockpit looks like a simulated view from Darth Vaders helmet. The dev's don't help themselves sometimes do they. I hope there's a nice zoomed out view or the NP wont be many peoples favourite ROF ride.


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#2638399 - 12/21/08 06:38 PM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: Mogster]  
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FlyR, I'm pretty sure you are thinking of the earlier N17 and N24. Those models had a center-line Vickers as opposed to the N28's offset Vickers. There was a model of the N24 that had dual Vickers, and they were set in the mostly standard method of a left and right mount.

With a center line mounted weapon, they would have had to reach around the windscreen. With left/right mounts there isn't a need to get around the windscreen.

The view isn't that bad with the N28 anyway, especially when you factor in TrackIR (which I don't have) and also that the view point isn't fixed, it's a non-issue.

#2638427 - 12/21/08 07:29 PM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: NattyIced]  
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Nice screenies biggrin Can we have one with AC on fire?

#2638434 - 12/21/08 07:47 PM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: NattyIced]  
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Gorgeous as usual! Thanks for posting!

#2638442 - 12/21/08 07:57 PM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: NattyIced]  
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Originally Posted By: NattyIced
FlyR, I'm pretty sure you are thinking of the earlier N17 and N24.

NattyIced, I'm referring to the N.28 (reference pg. 252, Nieuport 28 America's First Fighter, by Theodore Hamady, Schiffer, 2008).

#2638479 - 12/21/08 09:14 PM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: FlyRetired]  
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I apologize, I was going at the angle from simple reach due to physical observation of the aircraft.

Although I am curious as to the bolded N28 reference, not to you, but to the authors because the N28 wasn't America's first fighter in the absolute sense. The N17 was actually America's first fighter, but not for the AEF(American Air Service division that was part of the AEF).

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#2638550 - 12/22/08 12:08 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: NattyIced]  
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No problem NattyIced. I'd recommend the book if you're interested in the N.28, and the combat history of the early US Aero Squadrons that flew the Nieuport.

#2638553 - 12/22/08 12:16 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: FlyRetired]  
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TrackIR won´t help a bit with that windscreen, it absolutely ruins the view, I can´t see how it will be possible to track an opponent in a vigorous dogfight. I expect viewing trouble with top wings and fuselages in WWI fighters, but this... - Hmm, I just hope Neoqb considers the issue, IF there are other Nieuports of the same mark with better windscreens.

The issue is more relevant and problematic in a flight sim than in real life, because you have a much better sense of 3D in real life, as well as audio cues, etc.


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#2638574 - 12/22/08 12:53 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: Freycinet]  
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I think the pic with the N28 windscreen is just "zoomed" in. I'd bet that it will be like IL2 in that you can zoom in and out with your view.

#2638605 - 12/22/08 01:47 AM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: Trouble4u]  
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I'm sure that'll be the case possible with TrackIR.

Freycinet, check out this previously released ROF gameplay video of flying and fighting in the Spad 13, with all its head bobbing and cockpit zooming in-game (thanks to Fransvalli for this DivX video hosting here):

http://wwiaircombat.com/articles/rise-of-flight-gameplay-video-from-gc-hd-quality

Sighting, spotting, and avoiding or using obscuration was as essential a discipline in WWI as it was in later conflicts. That's one reasons why the Great War pilots wore silk scarves, to prevent neck chaffing while constantly panning the sky.

#2638731 - 12/22/08 12:09 PM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: FlyRetired]  
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Originally Posted By: FlyRetired
I'm sure that'll be the case possible with TrackIR.


I accept that the forward view from these aircraft was awful, covering large areas of the screen with a black texture seems to be a bit obsessive for an entertainment product, no? This area has been done to death on the IL2 boards but in short I don't think that view replicates what the pilot would have seen/felt he saw in cockpit. In IL2 we have the situation were cockpit instruments are covered by items like a crash head protector pad, OK it was present in real life but it certainly wouldn't have prevented the pilots view of the instruments, so it should be modified in game to give the user a more useful view.

Track IR shouldn't be required to get the most from this product. The possible user base for these type of games/sims is already small, requiring other hardware beyond a stick and pedals makes that pool of possible buyers even smaller.

Fantastic textures in the lower parts of the cockpit and instruments though, great work.



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#2638775 - 12/22/08 02:03 PM Re: New ROF Screenshots! [Re: Mogster]  
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Originally Posted By: Mogster
Track IR shouldn't be required to get the most from this product.

Mogster, I respect your postings, but please, statements like this make no sense to me.

If you have TrackIR functionality in any sim, it's meant to enhance and improve the basic view functioning, if it wasn't, then no one would buy TrackIR. So, although TrackIR will not be required in Rise Of Flight, you should expect to get some sort of improved viewing utility with it. (?)

Gentlemen, it's one screenshot of a cockpit that we've not seen before, but only one. wink

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