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#4583500 - 10/24/21 12:36 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Nearly forgot, there was one last action in which I flew on 12th September! Six Hurricanes of 73 Squadron are pursuing the Dorniers of Hostile 201 south across the English Channel. I'm leading in TP-W.

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Ahead, out over the Channel and well on their way home, I can see what looks like three groups of bombers, each in the usual double wedge formation. Nearby are some other aircraft which could be escorts. I give the order to attack now, while I've nothing much else to do, and hear myself ordering B Flight to take the fighters while we in A Flight go for the bombers.

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The escorts peel off and come up on our left. They might actually be reacting to a small group of contrailing aircraft on that side, which could be another RAF patrol that's made contact.

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In we go! My first pass sends a Dornier down in flames.

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By the time I make my second attack, other Huns are going down, but we're coming under fire from the flak on the French coast.

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I collected some hits on my second pass and while my engine is still running smoothly, the controls are damaged. A lot of aileron and rudder is needed to keep her level.

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I hang around a little longer to give the boys every opportunity, then call it quits. Home we go! This far out from the coast is not a place I want to be for long!

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So 73 Squadron made a contribution to the thirty-seven claims we're making from Hostile 201. In the meantime, new production from the factories and repairs of damaged aircraft are just about keeping pace with recent losses and there is no shortage of pilots. Some knocked-out fighter bases around London are becoming operational again, so I'm moving depleted squadrons out of the way and replacing them with those which can still mount patrols. We're not beaten yet!

...to be continued!

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#4583516 - 10/24/21 04:47 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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The 13th of September dawns and Fighter Command is still in business. The air activity again starts at lunchtime, with another huge raid aiming for London. As I've become accustomed to doing, I scramble multiple patrols which will hold off until the raid hives off some unescorted bombers. Thanks to the painfully slow recovery the Command is making, I'm able to put up a respectable number of fighters - over forty, enough to do serious harm to a formation of bombers without fighter protection.

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Over London, the raid splits up and I vector everything I've got towards Hostile 203, thirty-plus Heinkels. One of the last to make contact, over Kent, is a patrol of six Hurricanes from 73 Squadron.

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There's the raid, by now headed south for the Channel coast. The group of specks to the left is another RAF patrol, withdrawing after intercepting...I think. At the time, I didn't notice a possible dogfight, over on the right.

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I keep a wary eye on them, just in case I've mid-identified them, but they drift harmlessly past to our left.

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In we go! This time, I don't hang back to watch the other boys' efforts after ordering them to attack.

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My first pass sends one of the Heinkels dropping out of formation trailing smoke. I leave pulling up a bit late and when I do, go up like a rocket.

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Coming back in, I see that my target isn't falling out of formation after all. Again without looking around or getting a grip on what the others are up to, I race after the damaged Hun.

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This time, I definitely knock him out of formation. Hopefully, all the way out. I then quickly switch targets to the bomber in front.

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In my anxiety to get the second bomber, I leave breaking away too late. My Hurricane lurches into a violent roll to the right and keeps on rolling.

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I can no longer see my right wing from the cockpit; it's pretty obvious that I've collided with the Heinkel. I chop the throttle, slide back the canopy, and bail out.

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I'm pleasantly surprised in the circumstances when my 'chute opens. I can see that there are two bombers missing from the six (or was it seven?) on the right and no Hurricanes in sight, so I'm baffled at what the rest of the Squadron has been doing.

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I'm somewhat disappointed by the overall results - just eight claims for three losses. It looks like some patrols failed to intercept.

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Well, at least we didn't get a drubbing, having again managed to avoid the 109s.

...to be continued!

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#4583553 - 10/25/21 10:40 AM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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The pattern is the same for 14th September - a big raid aimed at London. Again, I respond by scrambling patrols to locations near its likely route, ready to re-vector once the raid has split up and some unescorted bombers are identified. Hardly a 'Big Wing', but I can manage sixty fighters from nine squadrons, reflecting Fighter Command's modest but visible recovery since our bases and factories stopped being attacked. This is the biggest response I've been able to mount since the assault on London started on 7th September.

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This time, the raid splits early and I'm able to order the intercepts while the group I'm after is still crossing Kent, bound for London. We're going for Hostile 203, just thirty-plus bombers, and this time I want to wipe the beggars out of the skies. I wait till a couple of squadrons have intercepted, then jump in to lead old stalwarts 17 Squadron's six Hurricanes.

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As we come in, I can see that, as I expected, combat has already been joined.

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I reckon there's nothing to be gained by delaying it till we're closer, so I call in the Bandits on the R/T and order the boys in.

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Up ahead, a conveyor belt of fighters is rolling in maintain the assault on the Hun formation, Spitfires...

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...as well as Hurricanes.

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Others, like these Hurris from 73 Squadron, are on their way to join the party.

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My own formation has begun to loosen up as the chaps start to pick their own targets.

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Impatiently, we close the range. There's still a near-continuous stream of fighters coming up behind the Huns.

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Looking around, above and right I can see several groups of aircraft, some of which are leaving vapour trails. Have some escorts arrived? If so, they've left it a bit late!

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As the range winds down, I start to line up my sights on the outside rear aircraft of a group of ten bombers. The group to its left has already been whittled down and the bunch that would have been on its right, destroyed.

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Here we go!

...to be continued!

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#4583574 - 10/25/21 12:58 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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My eight Brownings stutter into life as I rake my target. The Junkers 88 reels out of formation to the right, trailing smoke.

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I quickly switch my aim to the bomber in front and give it the same treatment, with similar results.

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But I've been hit myself, by return fire. My Hurricane is now also trailing smoke and the engine is missing a beat.

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A little shakily, I come around in a wide arc, intent on having another crack. Oh-oh - above the bombers now is what looks suspiciously like a group of escorts!

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The newcomers are Messerschmitt 110s, heavy cavalry coming to the rescue. They pile into our attacking fighters from ahead and right...

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...but I just plough on straight through them...

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...and knock a third bomber out of formation.

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Quickly shifting my aim to the one in front...

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...I do him some damage before breaking up and away.

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This is going pretty well as intended, but where are those 110s?

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...to be continued!

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#4583582 - 10/25/21 01:42 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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The Messerschmitt 110s - with the sharkmouth paint jobs of II/ZG76 - are still very much in evidence...

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...but the air fighting is winding up as both sides disengage - note the Hurricanes in the background.

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It looks like the escorts have nothing left to escort, hereabouts.

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The RAF fighters are reforming and heading home, like these Hurricanes from 73 Squadron...

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...and these, from 504...

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...and this Spitfire, from 609 Squadron.

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The fighting concludes with RAF claims for forty-eight down from the two components of the original raid we intercepted - thirty-nine from Hostile 203, the bombers, and the other nine from Hostile 202, which I believe was the Messerschmitt 110 escort. We lost fifteen fighters, no small loss but overall, Fighter Command has had a good day.

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What will September 15th - destined to become Battle of Britain Day - bring? We'll soon find out!

...to be continued!

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#4583653 - 10/26/21 11:32 AM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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September 15th starts quietly. Which has been the pattern of late. But this time, there's no lunchime assault on London. There's nothing doing in the Ops Room, apart from routine reports about fighter allocations. Until mid-evening, when Hostile 751, one hundred and fifty plus, is plotted crossing the Channel. I know from experience that the estimate of the raid's strength at this point is liable to be on the low side. I start scrambling patrols somewhat earlier than I usually would, ending with sixty fighters tasked, from no less than ten squadrons.

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This time, after the raid has split up, I jump into one of the first patrols to intercept - six Hurricanes from 73 Squadron. The raid appears to be directly over London's docklands, and makes an impressive spectacle - although it's hard to tell escorts from bombers, or even friend from foe.

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I lead the patrol towards what I think may be a group of bombers. Ack Ack fire blossoms, and I begin to wonder if I've intercepted too early, while the short-legged 109s are still liable to be around.

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As I get closer, I can see that the group I'm closing on is on its own. This looks promising, after all.

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Ther three-dimensional jigsaw puzzle up ahead is constantly changing. What are the aircraft which are now above my target? Hard to tell, but they're moving off to my left and appear to pose no threat.

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The Huns I'm chasing start a turn to starboard. I can see now that they are definitely bombers, and have probably just unloaded. I've already ordered the boys in, so we're all set.

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In fact, these Huns are Dornier 17s...

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...and I accidentally ram one of them on my first pass! I think that's him, tumbling out for formation.

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My 'chute pops open...as do those of the crew of the falling Dornier.

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Not a great start; but at least battle has been joined!

Next into action are the six Spitfires of 222 Squadron, which I'm leading in ZD-D. Tally ho!

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...to be continued!

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#4583725 - 10/27/21 10:51 AM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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The six Spits from 222 race south from London after the retreating Germans, weaving at intervals so as to keep a wary eye on the many other flights of aircraft in the area.

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Ahead is our target - groups of unescorted Dorniers. Those on the right are already under sustained attack by our fighters, and I waste no time in reporting contact to the Controller and ordering the boys to join in.

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The group of bombers on the right is being steadily cut to ribbons as we go in.

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I set a straggling Dornier on fire...

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...then send down the one in front, who falls away to the right.

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A few hits are all it needs to cause the crew of an already-damaged bomber to bail out...

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...the abandoned Dornier then sliding down to the left.

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My next pass damages a bomber which goes down under control but trailing smoke.

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Two Destroyed, one Damaged - even if all are officially shared with the pilots who first hit them, so far, so good!

...to be continued!

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#4583771 - 10/27/21 10:11 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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I come out in front of the remaining bombers...

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...but rather than attempt a hasty head-on attack, I opt to come in from astern with the last of my ammo.

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Another crew bails out of a stricken Dornier, as I go in.

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Joint by another Spit, I fire off my last rounds at a bomber which disappears behind a dense cloud of dark smoke.

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We haven't quite massacred the Dorniers by the time I've finished, but there plenty of fighters still in action and Hostile 201 has pretty well ceased to exist by the time the survivors make the Channel.

I ask the boys to report in then order them home. It's been a good day's work for 222 and the other squadrons engaged on this day. For the Luftwaffe, not so good.

As the sun sinks in the west, I slide back the canopy for some virtual fresh air, and feel the tension subside.

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We have had our backs to the wall, facing imminent disaster, for weeks, but the tide has turned since the Luftwaffe switched to bombing London and I changed my own tactics to make what I felt was the best use of the limited resources Fighter Command could still muster. The margin has been narrow indeed, but the next day's news is that we've won!

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I didn't realise - or had forgotten - that the last of the phases into which the sim's campaign is divided - 'the Blitz' - ends on Battle of Britain day. So that was always the date on which the curtain would come down and the defeat or victory assessment would be made. And Fighter Command has won!

...to be concluded - with what else but a conclusion, 'thoughts from a dugout' (with apologies to 'Der Rote Kampffleiger')


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#4583786 - 10/28/21 11:25 AM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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So, nearly two years after starting - including a gap of about nine months - I've finally finished my first RAF Commander campaign in Battle of Britain II - Wings of Victory. I can now clearly see why the campaign is so highly regarded - and why the sim is known to regulars as 'the time machine' that takes them back to southern England during that critical summer of 1940. Airfields are realistically and individually reproduced in great detail, towns and villages are where they should be, targets of all kinds look well worth bombing - the airfield below is I'm pretty sure Croydon, and an excellent representation thereof - heck even every anti-aircraft battery is where it should be.

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And as well as the combat in the air, you get to experience the tension and action from the perspective of a representative Fighter Command Operations Room - as you stare keenly at the map board and watch the plots building, invisible WAAFs and liasison officers make their reports, footsteps clatter, telephones jangle - you feel you are right there.

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And of course, the scale of the air battles is uniquely convincing - you really feel you are fighting in the Battle of Britain, not the Minor Skirmish of Britain.

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I've been playing - until recently - using the campaign/wargame/Ops Room element as a sort of mission generator, letting the campaign AI run the battle, mostly. But when faced with defeat, I switched to taking a more hands-on approach to the campaign side; this added a lot while not distracting from the sheer excitement and immersion of fighting many a desperate battle.

I also chose to be offered to join a squadron at the point it sighted the enemy, in effect opting for air starts. And I only rarely flew back to base after combat. This isn't how I usually play air combat sims but it maximises time in action. I could have opted to join in at different points, including before take-off, which would have been a bit less disorienting. Next time, I will probably play the RAF Single Pilot Campaign (SPC). This exploits BoB2's ability to filter your choice of squadron, in this case down to a single one. So you get something akin to a conventional character/unit-based campaign. The campaign still plays out in the background, so it helps to pick a squadron which was in 11 Group from the point you start your campaign.

The main negative I found is with the escort AI, which avoids all escorts swarming the first intercepting patrol, by sending in one staffel per one intercepting patrol. This is fine- but has the side-effect that uncommitted escorts will not react if you, the player, don't stay with your patrol in the fight, but instead attack bombers or even the uncommitted escorts themselves! The workaround for this is, don't desert your patrol if caught by escorts, or if you do, permit yourself only one pass at the bombers or uncommitted escorts. Overall, though, the air to air AI is gold standard - both for white-knuckle battles with other fighter and against bombers, the latter being herd-like when in formation but able to break off and go home once damage or morale gets to a certain point. The ability to fly a Stuka...

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... or man gun positions in medium bombers is icing on a very large and tasty cake.

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There are other minor quibbles. The distinctive L-shaped Millwall Dock is missing from the Isle of Dogs in London. The representation of successive variations in markings on both sides is very well done, down to aircraft having individual squadron and aircraft markings (though not RAF serial numbers) - but too many of the variations are seen at the one time and even in the same formation, like the 109's rapid ID markings or lack thereof.

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Cockpit canopies could use improvement - the Spit's lacks the prominent release handle and the Hurricane's, the blow-out panel mechanism. The Defiant is AI-only, features only in a single historical mission not the campaign...

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...and seen close to, looks like a low-polygon, low texture resolution carry over from the original Rowan sim. And as mentioned, there are no 109 fighter-bombers, mainly an issue for the last weeks of the Battle.

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The radio command menus take a bit of getting used to, compared to EAW or IL-2 '46, with the full set only available to patrol leaders. But they are more comprehensive and those for the RAF are well suited to Fighter Command's defence system - though not supporting use of the numbered 'Fighting Area Attacks', or reproducing the reception problems with the most common TR9D HF radios. And the responses from Controllers are a bit too quick off the mark. All in all, representation of radio traffic is excellent and for both sides, uses realistic callsigns.

In the real Battle, the RAF frequently scrambled sections or flights to deal with individual Luftwaffe recce aircraft, but while the campaign AI allows for this activity in terms of what Luftwaffe intelligence can or cannot see, the player can't take part in it. Nor will RAF players encounter the occasional 'pinpoint' raids sometimes mounted by single bombers. There's no night-fighting and no Blenheim fighters, nor RAF raids on the invasion ports. But these things are sideshows to the main event, which is done justice like no other sim I've played.

The sim's backbone is its incredibly detailed and convincing bringing-back-to-life of the Battle, its theatre and its aircraft - 'immersion' with a capital 'I'. The large scale of many of the air battles is faithfully reproduced...

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...and the formation sizes and spacings are convincing...

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...for both sides.

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While lacking ultra-high-polygon 3d models, fancy self-shading and bump mapping, even the graphics can still look really well. The skins are particularly good and if I was still making plastic models, would be how I would aspire for them to look. I particularly appreciated relatively recent mods by Boreas to fix some minor issues with the Spit upper surface pattern, add the mirror-image A and B Scheme variations for Spits and Hurris...

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...and add six or eight-patch versions of the missing red doped MG port patches on the Spits.

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The .pdf manual is an update on the excellent printed version from the Rowan original and is a masterpiece of explanation and illustration, reflecting the research and knowledge of both the original developers and the BoB Development Group which sustained development of both original and A2A versions of the sim.

It's a pity the 3d action regularly CTDs in Windows 10 and that very modern hardware doesn't make it easy to have a dual-boot Win 7 set-up (my solution for my i3-based PC) but Felizpe's patch enables the sim (though without some of the latest BDG updates) to play fine in the newer O/S.

So I'm unashamedly with the reviewers who rate BoB2 as one of the classic air combat sims of all time. For any fan of the genre who has an interest in fighting perhaps history's most important and famous air campaign, Battle of Britain II - Wings of Victory is quite simply a must have.


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#4583792 - 10/28/21 12:12 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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I enjoyed following this exhaustive AAR and final recap of BOB2-I couldn't agree more. Nicely done 33lima! 👍

#4583925 - 10/29/21 07:57 PM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Thank you, 33lima for letting us ride along with you.
Enjoyed the photos, the way you told the story and your dedication.
Well done and thanks!

#4584046 - 10/31/21 11:39 AM Re: BoB2 screenshots - the RAF campaign [Re: 33lima]  
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Many thanks guys, glad you enjoyed it!

I've just started a Single Pilot Campaign with 54 Squadron and will start reporting on that soon, in a new thread.

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