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The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional

Posted By: piper

The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/17/15 12:38 AM

Kinda cool.

http://digg.com/2015/fastest-spaceships
Posted By: Vertigo1

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/17/15 03:27 AM

Glad to see SpaceBall 1 on there. biggrin
Posted By: Ssnake

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/17/15 08:34 AM

It still irks me that they order "insane velocity" but show "insane acceleration" instead.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/17/15 11:12 AM

SB1 has gone to plaid!!
Posted By: PV1

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/17/15 11:17 AM

If something travels faster than light, its
speed has no meaning, in that by contriving
the right itinerary, it can travel in such a
way that its present becomes the past of some
part of the measuring frame's space; it can
then travel FTL to that part of its space,
arriving in the measuring frame's past, then
returning to its original destination from
there, and so arrive at its destination before
it started.

This is because a plane representing the present
in a space-time diagram (all those points in spacetime
drawn outward from a point, at right angles to the
line of a point's travel forward in time) will tilt
according to its velocity, so points travelling at
different velocities, being in different inertial
frames, have different planes of the present.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/17/15 11:30 AM

Who needs engines? Just get yourself a fourth stage Guild Navigator and a container ship and you can instantly travel to any place in the universe by simply "folding" space. biggrin
Posted By: Ssnake

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/17/15 03:54 PM

Yeah, but you just saw how they looked like in their glass coffins, doped to the brim. Plus, you create a total dependency on a single point of failure - the spice MUST flow, or else.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/17/15 04:03 PM

Originally Posted By: PV1
If something travels faster than light, its
speed has no meaning, in that by contriving
the right itinerary, it can travel in such a
way that its present becomes the past of some
part of the measuring frame's space; it can
then travel FTL to that part of its space,
arriving in the measuring frame's past, then
returning to its original destination from
there, and so arrive at its destination before
it started.

This is because a plane representing the present
in a space-time diagram (all those points in spacetime
drawn outward from a point, at right angles to the
line of a point's travel forward in time) will tilt
according to its velocity, so points travelling at
different velocities, being in different inertial
frames, have different planes of the present.



And if Superman flies counter to the Earth's rotation, he can go back in time too, by crossing time zones in reverse.
neaner
Posted By: Feetwet

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/18/15 01:48 AM

What happened to then?

We're past then.

When?

Just now.

When will then be now?

Soon!
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/18/15 04:50 AM

Originally Posted By: Feetwet
What happened to then?

We're past then.

When?

Just now.

When will then be now?

Soon!

biggrin


Wheels
Posted By: Jedi Master

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/20/15 03:55 PM

Wait, Voyager was faster than the Enterprise D?!?!?



The Jedi Master
Posted By: ArgonV

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/20/15 08:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Jedi Master
Wait, Voyager was faster than the Enterprise D?!?!?



The Jedi Master


Borg upgrades. biggrin
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/20/15 11:05 PM

That was the cool part of that show: watching the ship evolve as they went. Constant upgrades to engines, defenses and weapons.
Posted By: Ajay

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/21/15 01:32 AM

When are you going ?

I'm already back.
Posted By: Jedi Master

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/21/15 01:48 PM

When did this happen??

You just missed it.




The Jedi Master
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/21/15 01:51 PM

How about Shinzon's "Scimitar" flagship? How could that ship have been faster and just as maneuverable as a Sovereign class?
Posted By: Jedi Master

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/21/15 02:16 PM

Because plot, threat, jeopardy.




The Jedi Master
Posted By: NH2112

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/23/15 11:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Ssnake
Yeah, but you just saw how they looked like in their glass coffins, doped to the brim. Plus, you create a total dependency on a single point of failure - the spice MUST flow, or else.


At least till the Tleilaxu come up with synthetic melange. Then the surface of Rakis can be turned to glass and nobody but the Rakians is worse off from it.
Posted By: Jedi Master

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 07/23/15 01:47 PM

Yeah, that was really where Herbert lost the magic of the series. It started about spice as oil, but if you come up with synthetic oil and no one cares about the Middle East anymore, then why would anyone want to read about some sheikh?



The Jedi Master
Posted By: SUBS_17

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/28/18 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by PV1
If something travels faster than light, its
speed has no meaning, in that by contriving
the right itinerary, it can travel in such a
way that its present becomes the past of some
part of the measuring frame's space; it can
then travel FTL to that part of its space,
arriving in the measuring frame's past, then
returning to its original destination from
there, and so arrive at its destination before
it started.

This is because a plane representing the present
in a space-time diagram (all those points in spacetime
drawn outward from a point, at right angles to the
line of a point's travel forward in time) will tilt
according to its velocity, so points travelling at
different velocities, being in different inertial
frames, have different planes of the present.



To travel faster than light does not mean that you are entering any sort of time travel in any way shape or form.(that was someone's theory) The object won't change form in space in vacuum because there is no drag so passing the speed of light an object is still in the same form as it was by design and exceeding the speed of light beyond the distance of the universes diameter in one second still will not achieve time travel. The experience one would expect would not be noticeable if you were going from Earth to another system a 1000 light years away, it would still take a 1000 years to get there. So for space travel the fastest method is by Worm holes and that will get you from the solar system to another galaxy(any one or another dimension) in one second. If a worm hole were used for communications then there would be no lag when communicating with some one in another system or galaxy.
Posted By: SUBS_17

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/28/18 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Feetwet
What happened to then?

We're past then.

When?

Just now.

When will then be now?

Soon!


The funniest time travel joke is if something has happened with a women that involves you and you know what has happened but have not done it yet and then tell them.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/28/18 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by SUBS_17

So for space travel the fastest method is by Worm holes



I thought it was by "folding" space? You just have to find a fourth stage guild navigator.
Posted By: Khai

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/28/18 04:07 PM

I'll take an ol' obsolete Gallifreyian Type 40 anyday. while those are still getting there, we can go for lunch, see a show or 2, (Mozart in person anyone?), and still arrive before everything else leaves biggrin
Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/29/18 11:24 PM

The infinite improbability drive beats them all.

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Posted By: SUBS_17

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/30/18 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by SUBS_17

So for space travel the fastest method is by Worm holes



I thought it was by "folding" space? You just have to find a fourth stage guild navigator.


Worm holes do not work by folding space, they work by an element which is of a nature that produces a worm hole which consists of two spheres one is called the entry point worm hole the other is the exit point worm hole. How a star works is there is another dimension bigger than this universe that is sphere shaped which is full of fuel, in the centre is a worm hole that uses a gravity field that encompasses that entire dimension and draws fuel into the wormhole entry point. The fuel then exits from a worm hole exit point inside the core of the star and is compressed in this process it then exudes through holes on the stars core onto the surface where it combusts upon contact with a catalyst on the surface. So evidence is the black hole which is where after a star has had a supernova it has some how reversed the polarity of the worm hole element causing them to flip and now the worm hole exit point becomes the worm entry point and vice versa and the old stars gravity field (normal star goes to beyond the most distant space body{comet or pluto}, pivot star everything in the entire galaxy) pulls everything into the black hole.
Posted By: Khai

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/30/18 07:45 PM

or...




you just need a pulsed graviton beam and a porn mag....

Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/30/18 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by SUBS_17
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by SUBS_17

So for space travel the fastest method is by Worm holes



I thought it was by "folding" space? You just have to find a fourth stage guild navigator.


Worm holes do not work by folding space, they work by an element which is of a nature that produces a worm hole which consists of two spheres one is called the entry point worm hole the other is the exit point worm hole. How a star works is there is another dimension bigger than this universe that is sphere shaped which is full of fuel, in the centre is a worm hole that uses a gravity field that encompasses that entire dimension and draws fuel into the wormhole entry point. The fuel then exits from a worm hole exit point inside the core of the star and is compressed in this process it then exudes through holes on the stars core onto the surface where it combusts upon contact with a catalyst on the surface. So evidence is the black hole which is where after a star has had a supernova it has some how reversed the polarity of the worm hole element causing them to flip and now the worm hole exit point becomes the worm entry point and vice versa and the old stars gravity field (normal star goes to beyond the most distant space body{comet or pluto}, pivot star everything in the entire galaxy) pulls everything into the black hole.


If it weren't for your quote beneath your post, I'd think you were serious. :P
Posted By: SUBS_17

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/31/18 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman

If it weren't for your quote beneath your post, I'd think you were serious. :P


Regarding the science of worm holes I am quite serious and I did point out some evidence supporting it, the technology leads to all sorts of cool stuff. People need to know that the big bang theory was a theory, stars do not naturally form they are deliberately constructed at one location and that's why it looks as though an explosion of some sort occurred. You can tell when you observe a spiral galaxy, it was built to look like that even Saturn's rings are not natural something is keeping them maintained in the form that they are in.
Posted By: SUBS_17

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/31/18 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Khai
or...




you just need a pulsed graviton beam and a porn mag....



Tardis engineer, I like the Title someone gave you. I can scientifically explain how the Tardis would work IRL the whole small box with a large room. Technically Tardis is the fastest ship due to time travel. You can depart and arrive at your destination before you left by Trillions of years.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/31/18 07:38 PM

IMO, folding space and wormhole travel aren't "fast" because they aren't based on speed. Certainly a fast way to get to a destination, but it isn't based on the ship being "fast" in itself. The Dune navigator ships were mainly just barges, weren't they? No real propulsion at all. I could be wrong, it's been 20 years. You could count the Star Trek transporter as being "fast" otherwise.
Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/31/18 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by SUBS_17
Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman

If it weren't for your quote beneath your post, I'd think you were serious. :P


Regarding the science of worm holes I am quite serious and I did point out some evidence supporting it, the technology leads to all sorts of cool stuff. People need to know that the big bang theory was a theory, stars do not naturally form they are deliberately constructed at one location and that's why it looks as though an explosion of some sort occurred. You can tell when you observe a spiral galaxy, it was built to look like that even Saturn's rings are not natural something is keeping them maintained in the form that they are in.


I think you should read up on general and special relativity because I feel like you're missing a huge swath of modern physics in your knowledge base. Mix in some astrophysics and astronomy, too.
Posted By: SUBS_17

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 08/31/18 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
IMO, folding space and wormhole travel aren't "fast" because they aren't based on speed. Certainly a fast way to get to a destination, but it isn't based on the ship being "fast" in itself. The Dune navigator ships were mainly just barges, weren't they? No real propulsion at all. I could be wrong, it's been 20 years. You could count the Star Trek transporter as being "fast" otherwise.


There is IRL no folding in space involved where worm holes are involved, think of the universe as being a sphere shape with a wall. It cannot be bent without destroying everything inside. To arrive at a destination earliest I'd consider the fastest.
Posted By: SUBS_17

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 09/01/18 12:00 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by SUBS_17
Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman

If it weren't for your quote beneath your post, I'd think you were serious. :P


Regarding the science of worm holes I am quite serious and I did point out some evidence supporting it, the technology leads to all sorts of cool stuff. People need to know that the big bang theory was a theory, stars do not naturally form they are deliberately constructed at one location and that's why it looks as though an explosion of some sort occurred. You can tell when you observe a spiral galaxy, it was built to look like that even Saturn's rings are not natural something is keeping them maintained in the form that they are in.


I think you should read up on general and special relativity because I feel like you're missing a huge swath of modern physics in your knowledge base. Mix in some astrophysics and astronomy, too.

Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by SUBS_17
Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman

If it weren't for your quote beneath your post, I'd think you were serious. :P


Regarding the science of worm holes I am quite serious and I did point out some evidence supporting it, the technology leads to all sorts of cool stuff. People need to know that the big bang theory was a theory, stars do not naturally form they are deliberately constructed at one location and that's why it looks as though an explosion of some sort occurred. You can tell when you observe a spiral galaxy, it was built to look like that even Saturn's rings are not natural something is keeping them maintained in the form that they are in.


I think you should read up on general and special relativity because I feel like you're missing a huge swath of modern physics in your knowledge base. Mix in some astrophysics and astronomy, too.


You are wrong but what it is, is that I'm stating something that goes against a theory-the big bang theory. I can tell you no matter how big an explosion you'll never find a star or planet formed by it. It is obvious fuel for stars comes from another dimension.
Posted By: Allaire

Re: The Fastest Spaceships, Real And Fictional - 09/17/18 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
IMO, folding space and wormhole travel aren't "fast" because they aren't based on speed. Certainly a fast way to get to a destination, but it isn't based on the ship being "fast" in itself. The Dune navigator ships were mainly just barges, weren't they? No real propulsion at all. I could be wrong, it's been 20 years. You could count the Star Trek transporter as being "fast" otherwise.

The Guild Heighliners had drive systems which propelled them normally and fold space. The navigator was required to safely guide the ship through the folded space. The Dune House novels gives some more background on how the Heighliners function.
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