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Posted By: REB63

Prometheus - 06/09/12 07:43 PM

Anybody seen it yet?
Thumbs up or down?
Posted By: Bill_Grant

Re: Prometheus - 06/09/12 07:57 PM

Tomorrow, 3;15. wink
Posted By: Bib4Tuna

Re: Prometheus - 06/09/12 08:59 PM


Check out the "No Spoilers" thread in the Outer Space and Science Fiction forum...

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3585028/The_NO_SPOILERS_Prometheus_rev.html#Post3585028
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Prometheus - 06/09/12 11:30 PM

Two thumbs WAY up.

However, be prepared to NOT have all questions answered in the film. That's all I'll say. smile
Posted By: REB63

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 12:46 AM

You know what-it is a major mistake to tell everything.
That is one of the truisms of storytelling-especially filmed storytelling.
Never explain too much.

Example:
In the Indiana Jones movies,we don't know why he hates snakes.It isn't explained.
In the Young Indiana Jones TV show,it gets explained.Shouldn't have done that.Mystery removed.

I don't want an explanation for everything.
Just tell a good story.
Posted By: REB63

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 01:24 AM

Okay,ordered tickets online.
This puppy is $15.50 a pop!!
Says it is 3dImax or something like that.
Does that mean we get 3d glasses?
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 02:10 AM

What Panzermeyer said. Also, I recommend the 3D version unless you have some sort of problem with it (headaches or dizziness) - I promise that they did it right for once as far as quality.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 03:29 AM

I'll second what Letterboy said concerning the 3D. The movie has none of those 3D gimmicks that you see so often in other films and the 3D isn't over-done.
Posted By: REB63

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 04:47 AM

Well I've never seen a 3d movie-so do they give you glasses or is that not required?
Posted By: Bib4Tuna

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 04:58 AM

Yes, and these days they are re-usable (as in, you return them at the end of the show).

With that said, a little advise:

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 05:11 AM

scuseme Good advice. I saw Avatar in 3 D when I put on the glasses they had a thumb and finger prints on the lens ( PopCorn Butter ?)
Posted By: REB63

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 11:22 AM

Thanks,I'll be bringing alcohol wipes.
Posted By: Snakeyes

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 03:17 PM

I saw it Saturday morning (11:45). There was a line forming for it a 1/2 hour before the show began. That was the non-3D version. I want to go back and see it again at an IMAX theatre in a week or two. Needless to say, I really enjoyed the movie.

thumbsup
Posted By: REB63

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 08:42 PM

Just got back.
3D was interesting.
Probably the most 'visually arresting' flick I've ever seen.

Good movie.
They'll never top Alien and Aliens,though.
Posted By: Dervish

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 09:07 PM

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/ffc/2012/06/prometheus.html#more

Walter Chaw no likee.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Prometheus - 06/10/12 09:18 PM

Prometheus made 50 million this opening weekend which is a VERY impressive haul for an R rated film.
Posted By: Gambit21

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 12:17 AM

So many logic gaps in this movie.
I enjoyed it, but hard not to be hit over the head with the flaws.

Can someone explain why the pictograms are, over thousands of years, "inviting" humans to what amounts to a biological weapons installation?
For what purpose? Seems that they can transport the bio-weapon just fine in ships, and only a few humans would show up - not to mention are we supposed to believe this installation was up and functioning for 6000 years?

That's really the narrative laps in logic that took me out of the film.
Otherwise I enjoyed it well enough.
One thing though, it IS an out and out Alien prequel. I'm surprised since I'd heard more or less "it takes place in the same universe, and shares some DNA, but not a prequel as such" Bull puckey, it's a Alien prequel.

It's not a very smart film, but visually interesting and entertaining enough for an aftnoon's diversion.
Does it live up to what we'd expect from a Ridley Scott Alien film? Not even close.
Posted By: ripper998

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Gambit21
So many logic gaps in this movie.
I enjoyed it, but hard not to be hit over the head with the flaws.

Can someone explain why the pictograms are, over thousands of years, "inviting" humans to what amounts to a biological weapons installation?
For what purpose? Seems that they can transport the bio-weapon just fine in ships, and only a few humans would show up - not to mention are we supposed to believe this installation was up and functioning for 6000 years?

That's really the narrative laps in logic that took me out of the film.
Otherwise I enjoyed it well enough.
One thing though, it IS an out and out Alien prequel. I'm surprised since I'd heard more or less "it takes place in the same universe, and shares some DNA, but not a prequel as such" Bull puckey, it's a Alien prequel.

It's not a very smart film, but visually interesting and entertaining enough for an aftnoon's diversion.
Does it live up to what we'd expect from a Ridley Scott Alien film? Not even close.


think you can use spoiler tags next time?
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 02:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Gambit21

It's not a very smart film,
What exactly was smart about "Alien"? It had a very basic and straight forward story but what made "Alien" a classic was how visceral and creative that simple story was told. And of course HR Giger's amazing artistry.

I do agree with you though on your point about "Prometheus" having some logical gaps but you'll find logic gaps in pretty much any sci-fi film if you analyze it closely enough.
Posted By: bones

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 01:32 PM

Originally Posted By: REB63
You know what-it is a major mistake to tell everything.
That is one of the truisms of storytelling-especially filmed storytelling.
Never explain too much.

Example:
In the Indiana Jones movies,we don't know why he hates snakes.It isn't explained.
In the Young Indiana Jones TV show,it gets explained.Shouldn't have done that.Mystery removed.

I don't want an explanation for everything.
Just tell a good story.


Don't you mean in "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" not in the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles?

I've been reading that people are getting dirty 3-D glasses and such...Makes me wonder if they do things differently from state to state. Here in IL, they give them to you and they are sealed in plastic wrap so.

v6,
boNes
Posted By: Snakeyes

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 01:40 PM

Definitely not as much action as the Alien movies, but the story line was thought provoking. Not since seeing "Inception" have I walked away from a movie with so many questions.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: bones
Here in IL, they give them to you and they are sealed in plastic wrap so.

v6,
boNes
That's been my experience as well when I've seen 3D movies in Florida.
Posted By: Bib4Tuna

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 02:56 PM


For regular 3D - yes, plastic wrapped and no need to return (disposable).

But for IMAX, the glasses are wider and they don't fold, so they ask you to return them for re-use.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 03:02 PM

Originally Posted By: sSnakeyes
Not since seeing "Inception" have I walked away from a movie with so many questions.


So did the metal top keep spinning or not at the end? wink
Posted By: Snakeyes

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: sSnakeyes
Not since seeing "Inception" have I walked away from a movie with so many questions.


So did the metal top keep spinning or not at the end? wink

Sorry, we will never know for sure ...

dizzy
Posted By: Timothy

Re: Prometheus - 06/11/12 11:53 PM

Click to reveal..
I don't get why they were building a weapon for that place. I don't understand how they still have 100% DNA match. I don't get why the guy in stasis attacked them. I thought the canon was that Predators breed them to hunt.
Posted By: Rick.50cal

Re: Prometheus - 06/12/12 05:39 AM

AvP may well not be "canon".
Click to reveal..
But if it were, you can still have a situation where the Engineer Jockeys create the Aliens...and the Predators managed to get some eggs and just breed them. Neither scenario cancels the other out.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Prometheus - 06/12/12 12:43 PM

So far my impression seems to be that most people on SimHQ who have seen the film like it even though there are some acknowledged issues with the script and the characters.
Posted By: Gambit21

Re: Prometheus - 06/12/12 03:24 PM

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted By: Gambit21

It's not a very smart film,
What exactly was smart about "Alien"? It had a very basic and straight forward story but what made "Alien" a classic was how visceral and creative that simple story was told. And of course HR Giger's amazing artistry.

I do agree with you though on your point about "Prometheus" having some logical gaps but you'll find logic gaps in pretty much any sci-fi film if you analyze it closely enough.


The logic gaps in this film were HUGE though. Big narrative holes/continuity errors.
We're not talking light sabers...which you just have to not think about at all.

Alien was a different kind of movie, so such a critique doesn't apply. It's clear that Scott was trying for something
completely different with Prometheus, and clearly missed the mark.

That's me being nit picky though - I actually enjoyed myself while watching the movie.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: Prometheus - 06/14/12 10:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick.50cal
AvP may well not be "canon".
Click to reveal..
But if it were, you can still have a situation where the Engineer Jockeys create the Aliens...and the Predators managed to get some eggs and just breed them. Neither scenario cancels the other out.


Click to reveal..
Except that the Predators were breeding the Aliens with the Mayans, so that is an impossible to have them created in the future by cross breeding or mutation.
Posted By: Gambit21

Re: Prometheus - 06/14/12 11:20 PM

Ridley Scott wasn't taking AvP into account, so no need to spin over all that.
Not that the logic in the film made any sense without AvP.
Posted By: Pooch

Re: Prometheus - 06/15/12 01:58 AM

Forget Predator when talking about the plot. That really had nothing to do with the Alien story. Just some stupid idea they came up with later to cash in on the success of both films.
But yeah, saw it a while ago and there are questions and holes, for sure.
That young lady sure was spry after that operation , dontcha' think? But, what the hell, its a science fiction movie. And that big guy. Pretty intelligent bunch, I would think, considering all of that technology. And yet when confronted by humans, was nothing more than a mindless, monster. Other questions that I have would only give away the plot, so I'll ahve to save them for later.
Posted By: Rick.50cal

Re: Prometheus - 06/16/12 04:49 PM


Pooch, just use the "spoiler tag" it's the "S" with the diagonal line through it (the horrizontal line is just "strike through" text.)
like this:
Click to reveal..
you can hide yer spoilers here!




Originally Posted By: Timothy
Originally Posted By: Rick.50cal
AvP may well not be "canon".
Click to reveal..
But if it were, you can still have a situation where the Engineer Jockeys create the Aliens...and the Predators managed to get some eggs and just breed them. Neither scenario cancels the other out.


Click to reveal..
Except that the Predators were breeding the Aliens with the Mayans, so that is an impossible to have them created in the future by cross breeding or mutation.


Click to reveal..
The impression I'm getting is that the "Alien Xenomorph" is essentially ALREADY created, and while variations exist, most don't vary that much. The Space Jockey ship from the movie Alien apparently crashed 1000 years ago, about the time of the Middle Ages...yet the eggs spawned what we know as an Alien today. Sure, there are variations, like the ceiling-running dog-Alien from #3 movie...but it would seem that the Engineers likely had the Xenomorph Alien created a very long time ago, possibly even pre-dating life on Earth. Meaning, Predators having captured a few in their hunts/travels, could conceivably got ahold of a few, then bred themwith the Mayans. But...the Pred/Mayan breeding/hunt connection is really kinda dumb IMO. Fun storyline for a B-movie...but nothing to get excited about when trying to figure out a different movie by a different writer, different director!
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