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IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available!

Posted By: fafnir_6

IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/24/11 09:57 PM

Hey guys,

Go here to check it out: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=28663

The actual download is here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=N1JF5RZX

Cheers,

Fafnir_6
Posted By: Tolwyn

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/24/11 11:37 PM

Neat.
Posted By: T}{OR

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/25/11 01:34 AM

A new game! With features that should have been in there from the beginning. Can't wait. smile
Posted By: Redwolf2

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/25/11 04:53 AM

Wow - the AI adjustments alone make this a real tour de force!!! (hope you were able to effectively pull all of it off). This, and of course the Ki-45, make this a MUST HAVE patch...amazing! This will be a real treat...can't wait.
santa
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/25/11 06:32 AM

Amazing stuff Daidalos Team. thumbsup
I am looking forward with great anticipation the patch release.


Wheels
Posted By: imaca

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/25/11 08:29 AM

Impressive list of changes, particularly the AI awareness and blocking AI line of sight through clouds. This sim looking like it will never be surpassed.
Posted By: Lagarto

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/25/11 10:58 AM

AI's engine overheating? Too good to be true smile
Posted By: MedinaES

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/25/11 09:39 PM

The AI is going to improve a lot.

Quote:
Various new AI maneuvers have been added. Number of maneuvers is increased by 25%.
AI planes will no longer detect enemy planes automatically inside certain radius. Position and
size of enemy plane is the main factor here. Bigger plane will obviously produce a bigger and
more visible "dot" and it will be more visible to AI.
AI skill will generally determine how well AI can spot targets. Also every gunner on board will
contribute to enemy spotting by covering their own sectors.
Generally pilots will keep looking more forwards than backwards. Occasionally fighters execute
fishtail maneuver to get better view behind. Planes will be less visible against dark background
like land, but more visible against brighter background like sky and clouds.
Clouds & land mass blocks AI's ability to see other planes behind them. For example it is
possible to evade attacking AI plane by hiding in clouds. AI planes will also try to hide in clouds
in certain conditions.
AI's own plane will block their line of sight. This is calculated from the plane's collision model.
For example basically all planes cannot see directly below them, unless the plane has
ventral/bottom gunner that can cover the underside. For example plane like Blenheim has
blind spot rear & behind since it has no tail/bottom gunner. Plane like B-17 with bottom/rear
gunners cannot be surprised from rear & behind like Blenheim (during daylight).
Occasionally fighters will execute roll maneuvers to get a look directly below them.
When fighter is pulling positive G's to get a lead shot and target goes invisible under nose, AI
will not see the target. Instead of aiming at the actual target, AI is shooting at estimated
target which position is extrapolated based on the last real observations. Much like human
brain would do.
AI pilot's ground collision detection is improved and now they will detect ground obstacles in
front of them better. Previously AI always crashed into certain kind of hill/mountain which has
too steep slope.
Environment factors such as darkness affects how well planes can be seen. AI is blind against
attack from sun and planes show up better as silhouette against moon. Planes are spotted
more easier if they emit smoke, fire, condensation trail or have lights on or are illuminated by
searchlight.
Also ships & ground AAA and aircraft gunners have the same clouds/ground/environment
restrictions as AI pilots.
AI gunners check before shooting that there is no friendly planes in front/behind their enemy
target.
AI gunners don't keep shooting while the gun is turning towards target and the target is
nowhere near when the bullets would go. So gunners will no longer waste ammo for stupid
shots.
Gunners will be less accurate shooting targets that move fast. In other words target that
forces the gunners to turn guns fast is less likely to get hit.
Gunners that experience too much positive or negative G's cannot fire at all.
AI plane's engine will overheat forcing AI to reduce throttle and open radiators.
AI planes respect diving limits of their planes.
Changes have been made in AI deflection shooting. AI calculate deflection better but it is still not perfect. AI's ability to chose correct deflection and to hold steady aim vary with the skill. AI
Aces shooting ability is now at human aces level and if they get into your close six you will be
in trouble.
AI flights doesn't go into attack as soon as they spot the enemy anymore. Depending on the
situation AI might try to avoid fight or try to improve their position before commencing the
attack.
AI skills are now divided internally into sub-skills and thus provide finer distribution of skill.
Aces are still better than Veterans and Averages are better than Rookies but not all AI pilots
with the same skill are the same. Some fly better, some shoot better. Some are braver and
some see better. This makes their behavior less predictable.
In addition to the maneuvers, AI fighter defense is completely reworked, no more constant
rolls. AI will perform diverse maneuvers and provide bigger challenge to the player.
AI will make mistake too. They will stall and spin occasionally, panic and “freeze” and
sometimes they will even bail out before you fire a single bullet at them.
Posted By: RedDragon

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/25/11 09:57 PM

Great stuff, but a 1˝ to late. Not playing it anymore.

Have fun with it smile
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/25/11 11:31 PM

(What an odd first post; sorry RD)

hahaha

Honestly, I've laid Il-2 aside for a while now waiting on 4.11. I'm thrilled to get this guide to read and the patch will be out in....two weeks?
Derek
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/26/11 12:20 AM

A little more context of why RD quit playing might help us understand his point but I agree it is a bit odd to register just to post that you aren't playing anymore. It seems to happen a lot around patch time though.

So far all the patches that the Daidalos Team have released came with a pre-release of the guide and we had a patch within a week so twoweeks or less is definitely a good probability.


Wheels
Posted By: WileECoyote

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/26/11 02:22 PM

Ah... AI blind spots... I'm drooling the keyboard. I agree that this is a little (or actually, a lot) too late, but man, it makes my drool anyway. bananadance

Quote:
AI gunners check before shooting that there is no friendly planes in front/behind their enemy
target.


This one, alone, makes the game entirely new!
Posted By: KeyCat

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/26/11 02:55 PM

Awesome!

Kudos to Daidalos Team and happy holidays!

/KC
Posted By: monsterZER0

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/26/11 05:25 PM

I can't wait. I'm soooo glad TD is keeping this classic alive.
Posted By: Tracy

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/26/11 06:35 PM

Hi all,

This looks like a great patch, I play offline so will this patch take effect in the campaigns I have running. Or will this patch just work in DGEN and user made missions with the editor ? In other words does this change the whole game, or just the Mission editor created games, of which I have none !

Thanks, Tracy
Posted By: DaveP63

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/27/11 01:27 AM

Whole game.
Posted By: 15/JG52_Genie

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/28/11 06:56 AM

wow! I must try this now smile
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/28/11 07:10 AM

Originally Posted By: 15/JG52_Genie
wow! I must try this now smile

This patching guide at M4T will get you up to date so that all you will need is the v4.11m patch when it is released. smile
IL-2 1946 Installation and Patching Guide: http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Knowledge_Base&op=show&kid=584

You can download the patches from the Downloads subforum right here at SimHQ. You will need to be logged in to see it and download the patches.
IL-2 Series Downloads: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/265/1/IL_2_Series_Downloads.html


Wheels
Posted By: Dozer

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/28/11 06:09 PM

This addresses the reasons I stopped playing Il-2. The cheating omnipotent anti-thermodynamic AI. I want to make stuff blow up when I shoot it again!
Posted By: FlyingToaster

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/28/11 08:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Dozer
This addresses the reasons I stopped playing Il-2. The cheating omnipotent anti-thermodynamic AI. I want to make stuff blow up when I shoot it again!


This pretty much sums up my feelings. I am really looking forwards to this patch after reading the guide!
Posted By: SkyHigh

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/28/11 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Dozer
This addresses the reasons I stopped playing Il-2. The cheating omnipotent anti-thermodynamic AI. I want to make stuff blow up when I shoot it again!


Dozer, I would recommend the 'Dark Blue World' add-on for Il-2; it contains an AI mod which addresses many of the problems that you describe with the ai, along with many other improvements. Worth trying until the new patch comes out.
Posted By: DaveP63

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/28/11 11:12 PM

X2 on DBW. I am looking very forward to 4.11 as well. I have separate installs for each.
Posted By: knightgames

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/29/11 09:26 PM

With my pitiful PC I can't do CoD I need my WW2 combat fix, so after a year and a half I reinstalled IL2 1946 It's all patched up and ready to go Now I find we get this delightful add on? Whhhooooo HHoooooooo!

Thanks Team D
Posted By: rfxcasey

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/31/11 07:23 AM

Originally Posted By: knightgames
With my pitiful PC I can't do CoD


Believe me, you ain't missing much.
Posted By: JazMan

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 12/31/11 09:59 PM

Someday we might have the TD version of CoD, then it'll be what it should have been.
Posted By: Daze

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/04/12 05:24 PM

Originally Posted By: rfxcasey
Originally Posted By: knightgames
With my pitiful PC I can't do CoD


Believe me, you ain't missing much.



My squad is moving to COD and I'm bummed. I can play it somewhat but IL2 plays fantastic and I like IL2 better.
Posted By: Airway

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/04/12 10:48 PM

Well, it is better. It has a decade of developement, recently pushed to most recent possibillities in these times, by Team Daidalos.

Every following title can't compete as Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946 covers so many szenarios and has so many flyable planes as no other WW2+ flight/combat sim. And it's worth the title simulation

Can't wait to get the 4.11 update.

Cheerio!
Posted By: Daze

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/05/12 10:57 AM

If they don't get COD working MUCH better SOON I'm gonna have to find another squad. Or start one.
Posted By: knightgames

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/06/12 08:48 AM

Originally Posted By: rfxcasey
Originally Posted By: knightgames
With my pitiful PC I can't do CoD


Believe me, you ain't missing much.


Maybe not.... but I've looked at enough YouTube videos to know that I'd get enough enjoyment out of it for my buck. I know some have issues with hoow some things look. Others with online and co-ops, and I understand their frustrations. But for what I do I think it would be enough.
Posted By: SacaSoh

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/06/12 04:09 PM

CoD, IMO, works only as a random skirmish generator, hope they implement some sort of dynamic campaign generator for the sequel (and a patch for CoD). I have much more fun with IL-2 1946 + DBW 1.6.
Posted By: Avimimus

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/06/12 06:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Airway
Well, it is better. It has a decade of developement, recently pushed to most recent possibillities in these times, by Team Daidalos.

Every following title can't compete as Il-2 Sturmovik: 1946 covers so many szenarios and has so many flyable planes as no other WW2+ flight/combat sim. And it's worth the title simulation

Can't wait to get the 4.11 update.

Cheerio!


Yup - that's how I feel. CoD beats all past Battle of Britain sims, however, 1946 covers more fronts.
Posted By: WWSandMan

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/06/12 09:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Daze
My squad is moving to COD and I'm bummed. I can play it somewhat but IL2 plays fantastic and I like IL2 better.


There's been a little talk of including CloD as one of the sims the WW's list as "official" squadron sims. But, too many of the members simply don't want to waste their time with CloD when IL-2:1946 (+/- mods), or RoF, or DCS BS/A10, or even FSX can give better multiplayer flight sim experience (whether in combat or not) than CloD does. Yes, CloD has better imagery than most previous sims, but it also comes with gremlins and bugs.

For us the sim is secondary to getting together and having a fun shared experience. That fun is absent when the sim's hardware requirements are too steep to allow everyone to play, the sim experiences random hard crashes, or when servers are unreachable. Can't tell you how many times we try to enjoy one of the new sims, only to get frustrated and say "Screw it, let's jump on HyperLobby and find some good co-op or MDS missions to fly." And for the next three hours or so we're all having fun.

That is why IL-2:1946 is still the bedrock multiplayer combat flight simulation of the 21st century.
Posted By: msalama

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/08/12 10:41 AM

Hey, this sounds awesome! I've only flown the DCS series for the last couple of years and won't buy CloD unless they fix it, but these improvements make me feel like firing up IL-2 again. Kudos to TD for a job well done smile
Posted By: Nimits

Re: IL-2 4.11 Guide is now available! - 01/10/12 06:00 AM

4.11 looks to be outstandin . . . still had been hoping for some new ships or repaints or something . . . oh well.
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