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Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again.

Posted By: RedToo

Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 09:47 PM

Finland has been named the happiest country for a fourth year running.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56457295

Full List at the bottom of this page:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/happiest-countries-in-the-world

Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 10:22 PM

That is nice but hard pass. Do not like cold.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 10:46 PM

My fundamental problem with that list is that “happiness” is a relative term and what constitutes an “acceptable” standard of living also varies form country to country. Having said that, Finland has two major aspects that helps with its high “happiness” rating. It has a largely homogenous population and a low population density.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 10:49 PM

I think it's because hockey is such a big sport there. biggrin
Posted By: Nixer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by LB4LB
I think it's because hockey is such a big sport there. biggrin


When I was a kid in Yankeeland, we were hockey NUTZ. My dad found this old Finn, first name Reno (sp?) who had a regulation rink he had built in his back yard! He had a Sauna too, and a nice frozen pond to jump into after. eek

I loved the rink, the rest was way beyond my 10 yr old Yankee puritanism.

The old fart slammed me against his boards more than once...always acted like he didn't like me. Then one night...yeah he had lights too, I got a chance to "politely" check him on his butt after bouncing him off his own boards when he was off balance.

He and I got along great after that. Sometimes I wonder where my life would have gone if we hadn't moved to Florida a couple of years later. I was a really good hockey player for a kid. For sure I would have learned to fight good earlier than I did. biggrin
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 11:14 PM

Cool story Nixer. It might have not been that he didn't like you. It might have been that you where flying around out there and scoring too easily. That might be why he gave you a ride into the boards. The fact that you gave him one back probably got him to respect you. If you hadn't, he would have just kept on doing it.



salute
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 11:19 PM

Iceland is another one that perfectly fits the profile I described earlier. The population is about 99% Caucasian and less than 400k people live in the country.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 11:27 PM

When I think of Iceland, I think of that 90's band the Sugarcubes. Bjork certainly was original. I have a friend who works for Cerner Health in Sweden. He just got transferred there last year. He and his wife love it there. Norway, Finland, and Sweden all look to be great places to visit.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/19/21 11:55 PM

Are Finlandan women pretty?
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Are Finlandan women pretty?



That's an extremely generalized question don't you think?
Posted By: Herman

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by LB4LB
Norway, Finland, and Sweden all look to be great places to visit.

Only if you can afford the astronomical cost of living.
Posted By: Lucky_1

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Are Finlandan women pretty?



That's an extremely generalized question don't you think?



I don't think his question is any more generalized than your assumption that only homogeneous people can be happy.
Posted By: BUFF

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Herman
Originally Posted by LB4LB
Norway, Finland, and Sweden all look to be great places to visit.

Only if you can afford the astronomical cost of living.

It's all relative though & someone living in the cheaper areas in the USA might say the same of e.g. visiting Beverly Hills. Here in the UK it is significantly dearer to live in London than most other parts of the country but the wages are higher to compensate.
& of course there are major differences in life/lifestyle in Scandinavia e.g. good & inexpensive public transport, universal healthcare & high social care/unemployment benefits. The important metric is what you can do/get with what you are left with after all normal expenditure. Are you familiar with The Big Mac Index (& it's variants)? winkngrin https://www.economist.com/big-mac-index
Posted By: BD-123

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 10:01 AM

I wonder what has changed in Finland.
It used to be notorious for high rates of suicide and alcoholism, mainly due to isolation and short daylight hours during the long winter.
Communication, information, entertainment and social media access thanks the the world Wide Web has improved citizens' lives mayhap
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by Lucky_1


I don't think his question is any more generalized than your assumption that only homogeneous people can be happy.


Homogenous societies don't experience racial strife and tension at anywhere near the major levels that countries like the US do. Don't misunderstand me, I'm NOT saying that societies need to be homogenous but I am simply making an observation of the inevitable consequences that can result when you have a society with multiple different races and religions. It's human nature that I am critiquing here.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by BUFF
good & inexpensive public transport, universal healthcare & high social care/unemployment benefits.



And who pays for that? The taxpayers of course so that needs to be figured into the "cost of living" equation. It is not a separate entity.
Posted By: WangoTango

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Are Finlandan women pretty?

Pretty women are abundant all over the world. All nationalities have beautiful women.
Posted By: BUFF

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/20/21 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by BUFF
good & inexpensive public transport, universal healthcare & high social care/unemployment benefits.



And who pays for that? The taxpayers of course so that needs to be figured into the "cost of living" equation. It is not a separate entity.

& that's why I said "The important metric is what you can do/get with what you are left with after all normal expenditure". Tax is taken off before you are left with whatever you are left with.
Posted By: HeinKill

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/21/21 01:09 PM

My current home, Denmark, second (first or second nearly every year) and I can only reflect on my own experience ...

- I work which makes me happy
- I get paid which makes me happy
- I then give half of every dollar I own back to the government which makes me unhappy
- Of the half I have left, the government takes 25% again in sales tax any time I buy something which makes me unhappyer
- My daughter got Corona but I never had to worry about her care because doctors and hospitals are free and well resourced and medicine is subsidised so that makes me happy
- She starts University in July and not only is that free, but the government pays her an allowance because she is studying, so that makes me happy
- She doesn't need a car, she rides her bike everywhere on nice bike paths and if she needs to take a bus or train or metro it comes on time so that makes me happy
- My son works at a childcare center where childcare is subsidized and his salary is paid by government and my wife works at a healthcare center and her salary is paid by government so I guess I can see where all my tax money goes so that makes me happy
- Beer is cheaper than bottled water, so that makes me happy
- The supermarkets are full of wine from all over the world so that makes me happy
- Soccer is the biggest sport and it is really boring compared to almost any other sport in the universe so that makes me unhappy
- Crime rate is low and I never have to worry about being shot because no one has guns except the police, so that makes me happy because the chances of the police shooting me are pretty low (so far)
- We have been in and out of lockdown a few times and each time there is no big fuss, people follow the recommendations for a few weeks and it works and then we can open up again, so that makes me happy
- We are vaccinating people now and all the oldies have been vaccinated, and all the healthworkers have been vaccinated and now all the vulnerable people are being vaccinated and pretty soon it will be my turn and now corona hospitalisations are falling dramatically because of vaccination so that makes me happy
- And did I mention beer is cheaper than bottled water?

So on balance yep, pretty happy.

Posted By: WangoTango

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/21/21 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Lucky_1


I don't think his question is any more generalized than your assumption that only homogeneous people can be happy.


Homogenous societies don't experience racial strife and tension at anywhere near the major levels that countries like the US do. Don't misunderstand me, I'm NOT saying that societies need to be homogenous but I am simply making an observation of the inevitable consequences that can result when you have a society with multiple different races and religions. It's human nature that I am critiquing here.

Pretty sure Finland does not have a media/government, hellbent on a race war.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/21/21 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by HeinKill
My current home, Denmark, second (first or second nearly every year) and I can only reflect on my own experience ...



and tipping is not necessary
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/21/21 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by WangoTango

Pretty sure Finland does not have a media/government, hellbent on a race war.


I guess that applies to the media and government in the UK, France and Germany since the racial and religious tensions are very bad as well in those countries.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 10:36 AM

Another observation about the top 10 countries in the list which are:

Finland
Denmark
Switzerland
Iceland
Netherlands
Norway
Sweden
Luxembourg
New Zealand
Austria



The populations of these countries range from a high of 17 million for the Netherlands to a low of 364,000 for Iceland. It seems having a small population is key to this "happiness".
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 10:56 AM

Switzerland = chocolate. Chocolate = happy happy happy happy.
Posted By: FlyingToaster

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 12:52 PM

I guess I figure there are a few components of "being happy"
The first is feeling confident that your basic needs of food and housing are met. In today's world that equals either a stable income or a good social security net.
After that comes feelings of belonging, community, friends, etc.
After that comes pretty much anything else.

It's hard to be happy if you are worried about paying rent in 2 weeks, or if you are hungry and can't get anything to eat.
Posted By: BUFF

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Switzerland = chocolate. Chocolate = happy happy happy happy.

so why doesn't Belgium make it into the top 10 then? rolleyes neaner German & British chocolate is also pretty good ... stirthepot
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by BUFF
German & British chocolate is also pretty good ... stirthepot



Meh, Switzerland is basically the same as Germany minus those weirdos who speak French and Italian.

As for the British, do they make any good food at all?


duck
Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Meh, Switzerland is basically the same as Germany minus those weirdos who speak French and Italian.

As for the British, do they make any good food at all?


duck


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Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by BUFF
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Switzerland = chocolate. Chocolate = happy happy happy happy.

so why doesn't Belgium make it into the top 10 then? rolleyes neaner German & British chocolate is also pretty good ... stirthepot


Belgium, German, British make chocolate?
Posted By: KraziKanuK

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by BUFF
German & British chocolate is also pretty good ... stirthepot



Meh, Switzerland is basically the same as Germany minus those weirdos who speak French and Italian.

As for the British, do they make any good food at all?


duck





You should watch Royal Recipes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/programmes/b08cb8gg/episodes
Posted By: WangoTango

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by WangoTango

Pretty sure Finland does not have a media/government, hellbent on a race war.


I guess that applies to the media and government in the UK, France and Germany since the racial and religious tensions are very bad as well in those countries.

Of course it does. It is not just an issue in the USA, I did not imply that it was.
Posted By: WangoTango

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/22/21 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by BUFF
German & British chocolate is also pretty good ... stirthepot



Meh, Switzerland is basically the same as Germany minus those weirdos who speak French and Italian.

As for the British, do they make any good food at all?


duck





Cadbury chocolate is good. I'm not a big chocolate bar guy, but when I do get one it is a Cadbury's Crispy Crunch. My wife loves the mini eggs (they are very good).
Posted By: Spidey

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 02:04 AM

From the top 10, I would 100 percent pick New Zealand as my top choice
Posted By: BD-123

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
[quote=PanzerMeyer]Meh, Switzerland is basically the same as Germany minus those weirdos who speak French and Italian.

As for the British, do they make any good food at all?


duck


We didn't.....too busy expanding the Empire to bother about fancy cooking Old Chap. smile

if you are talking about the catering industry, thanks to foreign influence, immigration, and enterprise, things have vastly improved here in the last 4 decades.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Spidey
From the top 10, I would 100 percent pick New Zealand as my top choice



You're a huge Lord of the Rings and Hobbit fan aren't you? biggrin
Posted By: FlyingToaster

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by BD-123
Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
[quote=PanzerMeyer]Meh, Switzerland is basically the same as Germany minus those weirdos who speak French and Italian.

As for the British, do they make any good food at all?


duck


We didn't.....too busy expanding the Empire to bother about fancy cooking Old Chap. smile

if you are talking about the catering industry, thanks to foreign influence, immigration, and enterprise, things have vastly improved here in the last 4 decades.


The best food in Britain is the stuff that isn't British.
Posted By: No105_Archie

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 01:29 PM

I LOVE British food. Steak and Ale Pie. Steak and Kidney Pie , Cornish Pasties, sausage rolls, Sunday Roast at the pub or carvery, Balmoral Chicken....I have travelled all through western Europe and North and Central America. I still like nothing better than a good solid British meal.

As for chocolate. Cadbury is garbage since it was sold to Nestle some years ago. If you look closely at the bars most are not even called chocolate any more but are labelled "chocolatey candy". Lindt and Green & Blacks ( Swiss and English ) are the best I can find these days.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by No105_Archie


As for chocolate. Cadbury is garbage since it was sold to Nestle some years ago. If you look closely at the bars most are not even called chocolate any more but are labelled "chocolatey candy". Lindt and Green & Blacks ( Swiss and English ) are the best I can find these days.



Lindt is indeed very good and I eat those individually wrapped chocolates like nobody's business. biggrin

The irony with Nestle is that it's a SWISS company so you'd think the quality of Cadbury would not have declined after the buy-out.
Posted By: KraziKanuK

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by FlyingToaster
Originally Posted by BD-123
Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
[quote=PanzerMeyer]Meh, Switzerland is basically the same as Germany minus those weirdos who speak French and Italian.

As for the British, do they make any good food at all?


duck


We didn't.....too busy expanding the Empire to bother about fancy cooking Old Chap. smile

if you are talking about the catering industry, thanks to foreign influence, immigration, and enterprise, things have vastly improved here in the last 4 decades.


The best food in Britain is the stuff that isn't British.

haggis???

How many different pastas are there? https://www.delish.com/uk/food-news/g31017969/pasta-shapes/
Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Spidey
From the top 10, I would 100 percent pick New Zealand as my top choice



I would love to move there.
Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by No105_Archie
I LOVE British food. Steak and Ale Pie. Steak and Kidney Pie , Cornish Pasties, sausage rolls, Sunday Roast at the pub or carvery, Balmoral Chicken....I have travelled all through western Europe and North and Central America. I still like nothing better than a good solid British meal.


Polish kielbasa and buttered salty cheesy pierogies would like to have a word with you...
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/23/21 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by Spidey
From the top 10, I would 100 percent pick New Zealand as my top choice



I would love to move there.



Total population is only 4.7 million so I'm sure they have room for you. biggrin
Posted By: HeinKill

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/24/21 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
Originally Posted by Spidey
From the top 10, I would 100 percent pick New Zealand as my top choice



I would love to move there.



Total population is only 4.7 million so I'm sure they have room for you. biggrin


Srry have to ask Spidey. What's yer favorite breed of sheep then?
Posted By: BUFF

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/24/21 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by No105_Archie


As for chocolate. Cadbury is garbage since it was sold to Nestle some years ago. If you look closely at the bars most are not even called chocolate any more but are labelled "chocolatey candy". Lindt and Green & Blacks ( Swiss and English ) are the best I can find these days.



Lindt is indeed very good and I eat those individually wrapped chocolates like nobody's business. biggrin

The irony with Nestle is that it's a SWISS company so you'd think the quality of Cadbury would not have declined after the buy-out.

Cadbury was bought by Mondelez (what was Kraft, an US company) not Nestle - & I do agree that it has gone downhill since Mondelez bought it. Costcutting/changes in ingredients & bar/packet etc. size frown I could imagine that the decline is even worse in products produced outside the UK for non-UK markets..
Green & Black's was bought by Cadbury in 2005 & was of course subsumed into Mondelez.
Posted By: No105_Archie

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/24/21 10:17 PM

Quote
Polish kielbasa and buttered salty cheesy pierogies would like to have a word with you.


A Cumberland or Lincolnshire sausage with some mash and marrowfat peas is more to my liking ....never ever did see the appeal of perogies smile
Posted By: WangoTango

Re: Finland ranked happiest country in the world - again. - 03/24/21 11:26 PM

The Ukrainian in me loves perogies. My Grandma us to make great ones. She would make them from scratch, a lot of work. My Grandma's brothers were Boxers and wrestlers. They were tough Ukes as my Dad use to say.
Two of her brothers are in The Brantford, Ontario Sports Hall of Fame. (may have heard of somebody else from Brantford). One as a Boxer the other as a wrestler. Depression era.

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