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Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously

Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/04/20 09:54 AM

https://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros...-theaters-and-on-hbo-max-simultaneously/

The 17 movies include Dune, Matrix 4. Wonder Woman 1984 which starts in cinemas on December 25th after being postponed from June will also be available on HBO Max at the same time in 4K UltraHD and HDR.

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Here's the list:

The Suicide Squad, The Matrix 4, Dune, Godzilla vs. Kong and Space Jam: A New Legacy. Other films include Little Things, Judas and the Black Messiah, Tom & Jerry, Mortal Kombat, Those Who Wish Me Dead, The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It, In the Heights, Reminiscence, Malignant, The Many Saints of Newark, King Richard and Cry Macho.

The era of the movie theaters dominance has ended. The fourth age of Middle Earth has began.

Gal Gadot for Christmas present. Yes Yes Yes Santa. I've been good!
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/04/20 11:41 AM

As I've mentioned before, the multi-plex movie theater as we know it is not going to go away in its entirety BUT there will most certainly be a significant reduction in the number of theaters. They will go through the same process that shopping malls have been going through for the past 10 years or so.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/04/20 01:47 PM

Maybe opportunity to buy good property at Walmart prices.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/04/20 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Maybe opportunity to buy good property at Walmart prices.



Most of the vacated spots left by closed theaters will most likely be replaced with restaurants. Malls need to have stores that give consumers an incentive to show up in person.
Posted By: Herman

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/04/20 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Maybe opportunity to buy good property at Walmart prices.

What would you do with it?
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/04/20 08:30 PM

Every theater is not in the mall. Many are gigantic buildings. They have found new life as churches, college campuses, companies buildings, hospitals. In this pandemic, more restaurants and malls is not what you want. Who will go to it when there are lockdown orders.
Posted By: Nimits

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/04/20 08:39 PM

I think the US, anyway, is reaching the end of the period where anyone pays attention to lockdown orders.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/04/20 09:04 PM

Los Angeles just began another one. I don't know if people are following it.
Posted By: Herman

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/05/20 12:00 AM

Isn't there a military maxim that goes, "Never issue an order that you know will be disobeyed?"
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/08/20 09:05 PM

Many ain't happy with Warner Bros decision to release 17 movies plus Wonder Woman 1984 to cinema and HBO Max streaming together https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...aming-service-denounces-warner-bros-plan

I want to know how they will make a profit on some of those movies that are $200-300 million to make.
Posted By: Spidey

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 12:00 AM

A lot of people are upset but i for one am pretty happy with this. They aren't going to recoup the money sitting on release dates or releasing it now when most movie theaters will be pretty empty. At least they are making an investment in HBO Max as a streaming platform.

The only downside is things getting more and more fragmented as people keep doing exclusives on their own streams. disney cbs hbo etc.,
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 12:04 AM

Some of these movies that cost $250-350 million earn 700 million or 1 billion at the cinema. They can't earn that much streaming it. Sequels are made base on whether the prequels made money or not.

New poster that include HBO Max

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Posted By: Nimits

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Spidey

The only downside is things getting more and more fragmented as people keep doing exclusives on their own streams. disney cbs hbo etc.,



And that is the thing. I am not paying for another streaming service. I will keep some sort of access to news, local weather, maybe sports (if the professional athletes ever get off their anti-American kick), but beyond that, I just as soon almost completely cut everything, and watch my BDB/BD collection, and stream the occasional movie off Amazon Prime once it is out of theaters (or equivalent). With a couple of exceptions, there are few movies I "need" to see right away. The lockdowns, the increasing political correctness in media, etc. have taught me that can live without most of what the current entertainment industry has to offer, and I do not really miss it.
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Nimits
Originally Posted by Spidey

The only downside is things getting more and more fragmented as people keep doing exclusives on their own streams. disney cbs hbo etc.,



And that is the thing. I am not paying for another streaming service. I will keep some sort of access to news, local weather, maybe sports (if the professional athletes ever get off their anti-American kick), but beyond that, I just as soon almost completely cut everything, and watch my BDB/BD collection, and stream the occasional movie off Amazon Prime once it is out of theaters (or equivalent). With a couple of exceptions, there are few movies I "need" to see right away. The lockdowns, the increasing political correctness in media, etc. have taught me that can live without most of what the current entertainment industry has to offer, and I do not really miss it.



+1

I find I enjoy re-watching series from the 90's more than most "woke" crap being produced today.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy


I want to know how they will make a profit on some of those movies that are $200-300 million to make.



HBO has very deep pockets and undoubtedly they will be paying a premium license fee for those movies.

Keep in mind that when a studio releases a film to movie theaters, they split the proceeds from the ticket sales with the movie theater chains. The typical industry standard is about 55% going to the studio and 45% going to the movie theaters.

When a studio sells the licensing of a movie to a streaming service the studio gets 100% of that money. The "middle-man" has essentially been eliminated.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Spidey
A lot of people are upset




The great majority of the upset people are the ones who work for a movie theater chain. They need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 04:30 AM

Gal Gadot, Best Christmas prezzie for this crappy year

Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Spidey


The only downside is things getting more and more fragmented as people keep doing exclusives on their own streams. disney cbs hbo etc.,



It's annoying for the consumer but it was an inevitable evolution. Once the big studios saw just how utterly successful Netflix was they naturally wanted to capitalize on that and get a share of that pie.

And of course the exact same thing has happened with PC game digital distribution services.
Posted By: FlyingToaster

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 12:11 PM

It remains to be seen how the consumer will react to this.
I feel that the biggest tool companies have in fighting piracy is to make it easier to access the product legally. If you only have 1 or 2 streaming services, many people will sign up for both of them, leave it, and watch stuff. If there are 20, all with different shows, I suspect a lot of people will go back to pirating due to it being easier.

PC game distribution is a bit different, since you don't have to pay to access it, just pay to buy each game. So having 1 or 3 different services is annoying, but doesn't cost any more.

Edit: Plus, you have the case where some show or service is not available in your country. I know many people who would love to pay for the Mandalorian, but can't...
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by FlyingToaster
It remains to be seen how the consumer will react to this.
I feel that the biggest tool companies have in fighting piracy is to make it easier to access the product legally. If you only have 1 or 2 streaming services, many people will sign up for both of them, leave it, and watch stuff. If there are 20, all with different shows, I suspect a lot of people will go back to pirating due to it being easier.

PC game distribution is a bit different, since you don't have to pay to access it, just pay to buy each game. So having 1 or 3 different services is annoying, but doesn't cost any more.

Edit: Plus, you have the case where some show or service is not available in your country. I know many people who would love to pay for the Mandalorian, but can't...


You make some valid points. In the case of Netflix and Amazon, a lot of their content is original anyway. Both are slowly going away from licensing shows and movies that are not theirs.
Posted By: wormfood

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 04:00 PM

Depends on how much the streaming services are willing to pay for it. Plus, some of those are going to be released to theaters as well. Also, for movies released in theaters, the theaters get a cut. So they should be able to get most of their money back and since the studios already paid for the movie, it may be better for them to release at cost or a small loss than not released at all. You'll have to check with their accountants for that though.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by wormfood
Depends on how much the streaming services are willing to pay for it. Plus, some of those are going to be released to theaters as well. Also, for movies released in theaters, the theaters get a cut. So they should be able to get most of their money back and since the studios already paid for the movie, it may be better for them to release at cost or a small loss than not released at all. You'll have to check with their accountants for that though.


Actually unless they changed it and i doubt it, the typical scenario was studios got 70% of the first week , then 50% with people having acess day one online, you can see how screwed theathers are in this deal.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/09/20 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Blade_RJ


Actually unless they changed it and i doubt it, the typical scenario was studios got 70% of the first week , then 50% with people having acess day one online, you can see how screwed theathers are in this deal.



This is correct. The share the studio gets for theatrical releases is indeed "front-loaded" so the percentage take starts high and then it decreases the longer the movie stays in theaters. This is why the movie theater chains absolutely LOVE movies that have had long legs like "Titanic", "Avatar" and basically any of the Marvel movies.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/25/20 05:18 PM

Wonder Woman 1984 is now on HBO MAX in IMAX 1080p, it dropped 19 minutes ago at exactly 11 am Central/12 pm Eastern.

Does “Wonder Woman 1984” cost extra money?

“Wonder Woman 1984” is free with your HBO Max subscription, but will only be on the service for one month.

Then it will be made available on premium video on-demand for an additional cost.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/25/soul-wonder-woman-1984-arrive-on-christmas-heres-how-to-watch.html

Also if you are paying for a monthly TV services, some of them like AT&T Uverse, have HBO MAX included.
Posted By: KRT_Bong

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/26/20 04:27 PM

Wonder Woman 1984 is getting terrible reviews from people who bought HBO Max just to see it, Many going as far as to say Batman '66 is award winning in comparison. "Spectacularly Awful" as one put it.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/26/20 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by KRT_Bong
Wonder Woman 1984 is getting terrible reviews from people who bought HBO Max just to see it, Many going as far as to say Batman '66 is award winning in comparison. "Spectacularly Awful" as one put it.



Since that is the case then selling the licensing rights to HBO was the right move. The box office performance would have been subpar.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/26/20 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by KRT_Bong
Wonder Woman 1984 is getting terrible reviews from people who bought HBO Max just to see it, Many going as far as to say Batman '66 is award winning in comparison. "Spectacularly Awful" as one put it.

i aquired from...tcertain means of free waters and i only could stand up to the first 15 min because i skiped intro to the modern day....and omg...that #%&*$# is campy as f****, first this is ghostbusters all over.....man are bad and they dont even hide,the acting in the mall sequence is so bad that im inclined to believe they hired D actors in order to gadot have something to bounce of with her level of acting.
i deleted this and saved some space for porn in order to cleanse my hard drive of this feminist crap. It was clear then, as it is now.....the first movie only got the rave reviews because a woman directed it, that movie was all snyder in script and sequence, anyone who knows his work knows that, i wouldnt be surprised if he ghost directed the action sequences.

if the rest of the movie follows the first 15 min, its dumb, poorly acted and cheesy as hell, the mall sequence looked like it was done to 720 degrees from snyder doom and gloom, because it looks like an kid 80s movie..maybe it was on purpose.....but....then you have to make the whole movie like that and most importantly....the audience has to know.
no wonder they tossed this to hbomax
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/27/20 11:19 AM

The first few minutes of the movie not set in 1984 is the only good part of the movie. But I didn't understand what the teaching was. Even if allowed to finish, still a loss. Missed a 'banner"
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 02:49 AM

There will be one more https://ew.com/movies/wonder-woman-3-announced-by-warner-bros/ Hope they read the bad reviews and correct all the mistakes they made
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
There will be one more https://ew.com/movies/wonder-woman-3-announced-by-warner-bros/ Hope they read the bad reviews and correct all the mistakes they made

nah, this just smell of damage control, patty will be busy with marvel, and both her and gadot were just trying to distance themselves not a day before lol, DC anounced 23 movies slates, of those they made 2 while marvel did 9 in the mean time.....so....dont trust their anouncements.
Posted By: David Kennard

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 07:43 AM

I would say only watch WW84 if you have it on in the background or watch it on your PC in the corner of the desktop while surfing the web..

It is just not a very good movie

the way they shoehorned Chris Pine into the movie was pretty bad + the flying scenes (the airplane and later WW soaring through the clouds) made zero sense
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
There will be one more https://ew.com/movies/wonder-woman-3-announced-by-warner-bros/ Hope they read the bad reviews and correct all the mistakes they made



Bad reviews ONLY matter if it significantly affects the financial bottom line. Studios won't change their creative approach with a film franchise otherwise.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 12:26 PM

Warner Bros claim the $ is better than expected

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55465322

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/27/media/wonder-woman-3-1984-box-office/index.html
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 01:09 PM



Remember that the economics now has all changed fundamentally due the simultaneous release on streaming and theaters. HBO Max paid a very hefty licensing fee to WB.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 02:37 PM

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In a profile over at The New York Times, the Warner Bros. executive reveals that, from 2022, there will be up to four DC Comics movie playing in theaters per year. These are big budget blockbusters designed for the big screen, but the plan is to have two additional movies - "perhaps focused on riskier characters like Batgirl and Static Shock," as the site explains - debut on HBO Max.

It's a bold plan, but one that could work wonders for the struggling DCEU. TV show spinoffs are also a priority, and Hamada admits that, "with every movie that we’re looking at now, we are thinking, 'What’s the potential Max spinoff?'" The first of those will tie into The Batman and The Suicide Squad.


riskier ? after batman they are your most liked characters and something fans have been asking for a DECADE
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As for how these stories will work, Hamada believes that moviegoers and HBO Max subscribers should have no trouble understanding that they play out in the DC Multiverse, a concept The Flash is going to introduce when it's released (hence why it stars two different versions of Batman).

"I don’t think anyone else has ever attempted this,"


except disney ,with star wars and marvel, oh sucessfully doesnt count ? got it.

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[/quote]Hamada explains. "But audiences are sophisticated enough to understand it. If we make good movies, they will go with it."



still waiting on at least one of that.

So their plan is to make a bunch of unrelated movies, series, not linked at all or some linked, put it in the blender, and whenever a plot hole comes call it multiverse ? yeah, that wont confuse general audience at all.........





Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Blade_RJ

riskier ? after batman they are your most liked characters and something fans have been asking for a DECADE






The hardcore fans will see the movies with these characters but will the mainstream casual audience see them? That's debatable and hence why it's "riskier". Admittedly, I've never even heard of Static Shock.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/28/20 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Blade_RJ

riskier ? after batman they are your most liked characters and something fans have been asking for a DECADE






The hardcore fans will see the movies with these characters but will the mainstream casual audience see them? That's debatable and hence why it's "riskier". Admittedly, I've never even heard of Static Shock.


mainstream is what got static popular with the cartoon, just like it popularized justice league that lets be honest, even though they predate them ,it was a poor dc avengers at that point. even my father who never liked comics would sit up close during lunch to catch an eye of justice league cartoon. to think they missed that moment for 15 whole years and still consider their most popular properties as risky, tells all you need to know.

just give up the facade, make more batman movies DC, in fact, make all batman movies, but be smart, like the cartoon brave and the bold and make cameo from other heroes......who knows, this way you can stabilish a universe while still making a movie of your most recognizable character,like you intended all along

#%&*$# batman.....serious, this is all wb can do...even the cartoons now are batman batman batman.....they even placed him on dark justice, lmao.....
Posted By: Forward Observer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/29/20 04:40 AM

I went to see WW84 today with two friends for a matinee. We were the only customers in the regular screening. It was also showing in their XD theater so maybe that screening had more people. All I can say is that I felt sorry for Ms. Gadot. She is such a charmer on screen and she deserved a better movie. It was bad-really bad. Fortunately, one of my friends treated us to the movie, or I would have left and asked for my money back.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/29/20 11:43 AM

I haven't been inside a movie theater since I saw "The Last Jedi" roughly about one year ago!
Posted By: Forward Observer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/29/20 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I haven't been inside a movie theater since I saw "The Last Jedi" roughly about one year ago!


I think this was my first foray since maybe March of this year. All the theaters started closing shortly after that time. I had really enjoyed the first WW movie--maybe it was the fantasy WWI setting and getting to see Gal Godot's wonderous long legs. However, this second iteration had the feel of a pointless 5th edition of a franchise when they have totally run out of good plots and are just cashing in on the success of the previous films. Consequently, instead of 2 or 3 other decent movies, they went straight to Wonder Woman 5. In fact, Police Academy 5 was probably better. At least it had the black cop who can make fantastic sound effects using only his vocal cords and mouth. In fact, if they could have gotten him for the Wonder Woman movie it would have been 100% better but would have still been a dud. This new movie had just too many Whiskey Tango Foxtrot moments to make any sense at all.

Instead of being the Temple of Doom in the Indiana Jones franchise, they went straight to the Crystal Skull mess of a movie, which was still 10x times better than this POS.


Cheers
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/29/20 06:01 PM

Thank you for that great post and review FO! It was a fun read. Maybe one day in the distant future when I have nothing to do I'll watch WW84.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/29/20 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Thank you for that great post and review FO! It was a fun read. Maybe one day in the distant future when I have nothing to do I'll watch WW84.


watch green lantern or green beetle, they are better
Posted By: Forward Observer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/29/20 11:12 PM

I know this is lazy but this review sums up everything I could possibly say about WW 84. Besides the critical drinker is one of the funnier reviewers on Youtube



Cheers
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 12/30/20 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Thank you for that great post and review FO! It was a fun read. Maybe one day in the distant future when I have nothing to do I'll watch WW84.


green beetle, they are better



I think you meant Green Hornet?
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 08/11/21 12:23 AM

Looks it it didn't work for their bank accounts.. https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/10/...-45-days-movies-streaming-battle-hbo-max

Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Warner Bros to Release All 17 2021 Movies in Theaters and on HBO Max Simultaneously - 08/11/21 02:54 AM




Let's see how long that deal lasts if the Delta strain gets worse.
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