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Same actor...mind blown.

Posted By: MarkG

Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 05:11 AM

I'm a fan of both movies (both released in 1987) and I never knew this was the same guy (Vincent D'Onofrio)...

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In 1986, D'Onofrio took on the role often considered the defining moment in his acting career, as Pvt. Leonard Lawrence, an overweight, clumsy Marine recruit in the movie Full Metal Jacket.

D'Onofrio gained 5 stone / 70 lb (32 kg) for the role, bringing his weight to 20 stone / 280 lb (130 kg). This remains the record for most weight gained by an actor for a film. While filming an obstacle course scene for the movie, D'Onofrio injured his left knee, compounded by the excessive weight, which required surgical reconstruction.

After filming of Full Metal Jacket was completed, having lost nearly all the weight gained for the movie in nine months, D'Onofrio went on to play Dawson, the owner of Dawson's Garage in Adventures in Babysitting (1987). He appears in one scene near the end of the film.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_D%27Onofrio

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10 years later...

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Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 05:38 AM

He was on Law & Order: Criminal Intent 2001-2011 and he was heavy again.

Posted By: MarkG

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 05:55 AM

He needs an inner Gunny voice that tells him to lay off the jelly donuts. smile

Man, I just can't get over that being the same dude. And with the movies being released only a week apart (July 3rd and 10th, 1987), who would have guessed such a quick transformation? Incredible.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 07:34 AM

I had no idea he was in the 'Edgar suit'.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG


Man, I just can't get over that being the same dude. And with the movies being released only a week apart (July 3rd and 10th, 1987), who would have guessed such a quick transformation? Incredible.


Going by theatrical release date is misleading. FMJ was actually shot in 1985 but the release was pushed back several months so it wouldn’t compete with Platoon.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 01:24 PM

In the real world, that’s called yo-yo dieting, falling off the weight loss/workout wagon and it’s looked at as failure. Start over!
If you’re an actor, you get award nominations. Go figure. LOL
Posted By: MarkG

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by MarkG
Man, I just can't get over that being the same dude. And with the movies being released only a week apart (July 3rd and 10th, 1987), who would have guessed such a quick transformation? Incredible.

Going by theatrical release date is misleading. FMJ was actually shot in 1985 but the release was pushed back several months so it wouldn’t compete with Platoon.
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Makes sense, but still an impressive transformation with losing the FMJ weight in only 9 months (averaging a little less than 2 lb/week).

Considering this...

"D'Onofrio gained 5 stone / 70 lb (32 kg) for the role, bringing his weight to 20 stone / 280 lb (130 kg). While filming an obstacle course scene for the movie, D'Onofrio injured his left knee, compounded by the excessive weight, which required surgical reconstruction."

...makes me wonder how uncomfortable he must have felt with the added weight while filming FMJ. Gaining or losing weight for a movie role isn't new, but gaining weight for a movie requiring physical exertion must have been rough, especially with not being used to carrying the additional weight (obviously was hard on his knees).
Posted By: bones

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 01:41 PM

I remarked to him once how he actually was the first person to play Thor, not Chris Hemsworth, haha!

He also said that working with Kubrick was great, that he really allowed alot of improvisation aside from Gunny's lines. Several of the dialogue between Joker and him were improvised.

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by bones
I remarked to him once how he actually was the first person to play Thor, not Chris Hemsworth, haha!

He also said that working with Kubrick was great, that he really allowed alot of improvisation aside from Gunny's lines. Several of the dialogue between Joker and him were improvised.


You actually met him, why am I not surprised? smile Thanks for the movie insight, will have to watch again soon.
Posted By: rwatson

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 01:49 PM

Good actor .I've spotted him in several movies/shows and loved him in Law and Order CI So laid back Talked like a tree sloth but knew his business..And for sure Top Shelf in FMJ
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 02:27 PM

I don’t care for any of those crime/cop shows so for me I will always know Vincent primarily for FMJ and Men in Black.
Posted By: rwatson

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 03:38 PM

I don't watch the cop shows a lot but with the slim choices on cable now days..Scroll through the channel guide ,,yeah 200 channels and see the same show on in four different places it sucks..but sometimes during the day i just feel like kicking back and watching something It's a case of chewing on the scraps,,,I suppose I could do streaming but I'd rather not try to figure it all out..The only thing that i have is Amazon Prime just need to figure out how to get it on the TV..I have wireless due to a desktop and laptop and should do the research to figure out how to make them play together
As to preferences to each his own,,i personally don't care for the SciFi stuff
Posted By: Alicatt

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 06:11 PM

Thought I recognised the name, Wilson Fisk from Daredevil tv series

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 06:13 PM

He was awesome as Kingpin. Well written, well acted. A lot of depth.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 09:14 PM

CharlizeTheron gain 30 lbs for Monster and then for Tully, she gained 50 lbs. How was she able to lose all that weight afterward both times I would like to know.

https://www.insider.com/actors-gain...r-on-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-13
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
CharlizeTheron gain 30 lbs for Monster and then for Tully, she gained 50 lbs. How was she able to lose all that weight afterward both times I would like to know.

https://www.insider.com/actors-gain...r-on-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-13



Hollywood actors get top of the line (and very well paid) personal trainers/chefs/nutritionists to lose the weight quickly.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 10:37 PM

It's still admirable, you have to put in the sweat. Still, having someone else handling meals and coaching is huge. Not to mention the paychecks attached to pulling it off. Most of us have to do it on our own and for free. LOL
Posted By: MarkG

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
CharlizeTheron gain 30 lbs for Monster and then for Tully, she gained 50 lbs. How was she able to lose all that weight afterward both times I would like to know.

https://www.insider.com/actors-gain...r-on-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-13


What an eye-opening link, even some additional info on Vincent D'Onofrio in FMJ.

Yikes on the damage that acting can cause to your body...

"Bale estimated going from about 185 to 228 pounds for "American Hustle." The actor also shaved his head, and slouched enough to accidentally herniate a disc in his back."

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At the bottom of that webpage is a link for the opposite...
SEE ALSO: Actors who lost weight for movie roles

Oh man, Bale again. Look at "Christian Bale stopped eating and exercising to drop 63 pounds for "The Machinist." He looks like walking death! eek2

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I don't understand why they don't just use actors/actresses who better fit the size requirements, unless a person's size/weight has to change in the movie like Tom Hank's "Castaway" and "Philadelphia". As RK is fond of saying (usually regarding women but also applies to men), we come in all different shapes and sizes. I take that to mean the differences in frame/skeletal, fat/muscle amount and distribution (assuming everyone having a reasonably healthy lifestyle). There are natural outliers at both extremes of normal, so why not use them for these roles?

Some are/were probably still too young to realize that health is *everything*. Although it looks like some at least kept themselves professionally monitored during the process, if not the first time around.

I'm feeling this way after just watching a show about the death of John Candy (43) while filming for a couple of months, a grueling and physically demanding movie in the Mexican heat, and at his worst health.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
It's still admirable, you have to put in the sweat. Still, having someone else handling meals and coaching is huge. Not to mention the paychecks attached to pulling it off. Most of us have to do it on our own and for free. LOL


I would think the most difficult part is the eating when trying to lose. Workouts can be tough when you're not feeling it, but when you exercise with another person (in this case a trainer), you're held accountable. Even if with an equal partner, no one wants to be the one to say, "I don't feel up to it today." You'd feel bad for letting the other person down so you suck it up and do it, and almost always glad you did.

But food is something you can cheat on secretly, without your chef or partner knowing.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/28/20 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG

I'm feeling this way after just watching a show about the death of John Candy (43) while filming for a couple of months, a grueling and physically demanding movie in the Mexican heat, and at his worst health.


Candy died from a double whammy. He was obese for almost all of his adult life and his father also died young from a heart attack. So he had both the lifestyle and genetic factors stacked against him.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/29/20 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by MarkG

I'm feeling this way after just watching a show about the death of John Candy (43) while filming for a couple of months, a grueling and physically demanding movie in the Mexican heat, and at his worst health.


Candy died from a double whammy. He was obese for almost all of his adult life and his father also died young from a heart attack. So he had both the lifestyle and genetic factors stacked against him.


They mentioned that. BTW, I've already forgotten the name of the show, but it's about a Doctor who investigates celebrity deaths and this one was about John Candy (only one I was interested in).

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One more FMJ reference...my Gunny self-help book just arrived. The reviews say it's so him that it's impossible *not* to read it in his Drill Instructor voice. smile
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/29/20 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
CharlizeTheron gain 30 lbs for Monster and then for Tully, she gained 50 lbs. How was she able to lose all that weight afterward both times I would like to know.

https://www.insider.com/actors-gain...r-on-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-13



Hollywood actors get top of the line (and very well paid) personal trainers/chefs/nutritionists to lose the weight quickly.


I can't even lose 2 lbs from around my waist no matter how much fruit/veggies I eat including a small salad every day and how many times I go to the gym weekly.

I do have my food I can't resist: ice cream, apple pie, pizza, donuts.
Posted By: Alicatt

Re: Same actor...mind blown. - 02/29/20 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by MarkG

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I don't understand why they don't just use actors/actresses who better fit the size requirements, unless a person's size/weight has to change in the movie like Tom Hank's "Castaway" and "Philadelphia". As RK is fond of saying (usually regarding women but also applies to men), we come in all different shapes and sizes. I take that to mean the differences in frame/skeletal, fat/muscle amount and distribution (assuming everyone having a reasonably healthy lifestyle). There are natural outliers at both extremes of normal, so why not use them for these roles?

Acting, old boy, Acting.
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