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Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ?

Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/16/19 10:40 PM

There are words that we just can't pronounce.

I think we all have one or two.

Like, I have a friend who can't never pronounce sheet and beach correctly.

He turns them into foul words.

For me it will be the word Worcestershire !!

I have been trying for many many years.

After watching this several times, I still can't pronounce it.



Posted By: Lieste

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/16/19 11:32 PM

WUST-ur-shur
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/16/19 11:39 PM

If you are from Massachusetts it’s “Woostah”. smile
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/16/19 11:41 PM

Some southern US dialects pronounce "pen" as "pin". Trying to write with a pin is difficult. Putting your dog in one is darned near impossible.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/16/19 11:43 PM

And in many parts of the South the word “cement” is not pronounced as ceh-ment but cee-mint.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 12:25 AM

Anything in german, i can mind guess pronunciation for polish and russian words really well, indian too, but in spite of our fellow german simmers...german is not a language, its just noises you make when you a drunk......there i said it.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
If you are from Massachusetts it’s “Woostah”. smile


I have a good friend of 30 years from Boston.

Believe me when I say after all these years, when he speaks, I still don't understand him half of the time.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 12:31 AM

I'm amazed at how many people that can't say "button" these days. Like not even close.
It's a very pronounced "Buh-in"
I don't remember ever noticing that until a few years ago, so I assume there's a reason for it. It doesn't seem to be a regional thing either.
Lord knows we pronounce things in all manner of crazy ways in MS.
My wife can't say "jeweler".
Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 01:39 AM

Kvass and Vodka, two very key words if you hang around a lot of Slavpeoplekind.

It's that damned 'V', which is pronounced halfway between a V and a W, I cannot do.

Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 01:43 AM

What is a Kvass?
Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
What is a Kvass?


Fermented beverage made from bread, tastes like a cross between a really light beer and a soft drink.
Posted By: Zamzow

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:16 AM

Long chemical names and such aside, as well as foreign words, I can't ever recall having trouble pronouncing one.

But the tongue twister "The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick" has tripped me up before!
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
What is a Kvass?


Fermented beverage made from bread, tastes like a cross between a really light beer and a soft drink.


Thank you.

Originally Posted by Zamzow


But the tongue twister "The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick" has tripped me up before!


Try saying this one 10 times real fast:

"Pad kid poured curd pulled cod"

According to MIT researchers, it's the toughest tongue twister in the world.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2013/12/11/mit-tongue-twister/3985789/
Posted By: Zamzow

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
What is a Kvass?


Fermented beverage made from bread, tastes like a cross between a really light beer and a soft drink.


Thank you.

Originally Posted by Zamzow


But the tongue twister "The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick" has tripped me up before!


Try saying this one 10 times real fast:

"Pad kid poured curd pulled cod"

According to MIT researchers, it's the toughest tongue twister in the world.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2013/12/11/mit-tongue-twister/3985789/


I didn't find that challenging at all. But I should "confess" that I have the biggest loudest mouth you've ever heard. Not MY opinion, that is the opinion of everyone who's ever encountered me in my 49 years. I am ALWAYS being told I should have been a singer, a radio announcer, a sports commentator, a TV/Movie voice actor, a voice talent for commercials, etc...

Maybe if I liked talking to people that could have been something...
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 04:55 AM

"Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis"
Learned it as a kid. Hasn't even crossed my mind in years until just now. Can say it (teeth in or out wink ) without a slip.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by vonBaur
"Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis"
Learned it as a kid. Hasn't even crossed my mind in years until just now. Can say it (teeth in or out wink ) without a slip.



Are you sure that's not a German word? biggrin
Posted By: No105_Archie

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 01:56 PM

BAH..."colonials" biggrin
Posted By: DM

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Try saying this one 10 times real fast:

"Pad kid poured curd pulled cod"

According to MIT researchers, it's the toughest tongue twister in the world.


I can't even read that properly :/
Posted By: NH2112

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Zamzow
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Originally Posted by Crane Hunter
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
What is a Kvass?


Fermented beverage made from bread, tastes like a cross between a really light beer and a soft drink.


Thank you.

Originally Posted by Zamzow


But the tongue twister "The sixth sick sheik's sixth sheep's sick" has tripped me up before!


Try saying this one 10 times real fast:

"Pad kid poured curd pulled cod"

According to MIT researchers, it's the toughest tongue twister in the world.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2013/12/11/mit-tongue-twister/3985789/


I didn't find that challenging at all. But I should "confess" that I have the biggest loudest mouth you've ever heard. Not MY opinion, that is the opinion of everyone who's ever encountered me in my 49 years. I am ALWAYS being told I should have been a singer, a radio announcer, a sports commentator, a TV/Movie voice actor, a voice talent for commercials, etc...

Maybe if I liked talking to people that could have been something...




I don’t find it difficult, either, and I’m one of those whose tang gets all tongueled up saying almost anything fast.
Posted By: bones

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:27 PM

In Polish they have a tongue twister that translates into "The legs of the chair are broken." I have made it my goal, as a non-native Polish speaker, to wow the Poles with my being able to pronounce that tongue twister.

I also found recently when talking to my son that I have a hard time pronouncing "shape sorter" lately.

v6,
boNes
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by bones

I also found recently when talking to my son that I have a hard time pronouncing "shape sorter" lately.

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So what exactly is a "shape sorter" used for? It seems like a rather vague term!
Posted By: DM

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:32 PM

Třistatřiatřicet stříbrných křepelek přeletělo přes třistatřiatřicet stříbrných střech.
(Three hundred and thirty three silver quails flew over three hundred and thirty three silver roofs.)

Czech tongue-twister. the ř is the fiddly part.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:40 PM

Data: Some people , I know say ( date da ) others say ( dat ah ) which one is correct ?
Posted By: DM

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by carrick58
Data: Some people , I know say ( date da ) others say ( dat ah ) which one is correct ?


As a Brit I would say date-ah.

I know Americans say dat-ah, but the character Data in Star Trek was always called date-ah for some reason smile (Maybe Picard named him...)
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 02:56 PM

That's interesting DM because I pronounce it as "date-ah" and I'm a Yank!



However, I don't quite understand why it's "aluminium" in the UK but "aluminum" in the US. That difference seems rather arbitrary to me.
Posted By: bones

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 03:20 PM

Actually, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

v6,
boNes
Posted By: bones

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by bones

I also found recently when talking to my son that I have a hard time pronouncing "shape sorter" lately.

v6,
boNes



So what exactly is a "shape sorter" used for? It seems like a rather vague term!


It's that classic toy that is either a cube or a sphereoid with shapes cut into the surface where you insert blocks of the same shape into.

I should start saying "shape shifter" instead to introduce him to the weird world of scifi/fantasy!

v6,
boNes
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by bones


It's that classic toy that is either a cube or a sphereoid with shapes cut into the surface where you insert blocks of the same shape into.


v6,
boNes



Ah yes, I immediately visualized the toy as soon as you described it. I just had no idea it was called a shape sorter!
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by bones
Actually, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

Um, no. Datum is the singular and data is the plural. As for pronunciation of the plural, data, I believe dictionaries say that either is/both are acceptable. Rather like toe-MAY-toe / toe-MAH-toe.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 03:36 PM

Here a tongue twister my friend who can't pronounce sheet correctly will have trouble with:

How many sheets could a sheet slitter slit if a sheet slitter could slit sheets?

Or this one word from the classic Mary Poppins film.

Google says:

Quote
The Oxford English Dictionary defines the word as "a nonsense word, originally used esp. by children, and typically expressing excited approbation: fantastic, fabulous", while Dictionary.com says it is "used as a nonsense word by children to express approval or to represent the longest word in English."


According to WIKI, it was a word first recorded in Oxford dictionary in 1931:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Posted By: bones

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by vonBaur
Originally Posted by bones
Actually, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

Um, no. Datum is the singular and data is the plural. As for pronunciation of the plural, data, I believe dictionaries say that either is/both are acceptable. Rather like toe-MAY-toe / toe-MAH-toe.



In Latin, yes, but in engineering in terms of information, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

Kind of like how really it should be viri when we talk about more than one virus, which is correct in Latin, but in English we still say viruses.

v6,
boNes
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Here a tongue twister my friend who can't pronounce sheet correctly will have trouble with:

How many sheets could a sheet slitter slit if a sheet slitter could slit sheets?

Or this one word from the classic Mary Poppins film.

Google says:

Quote
The Oxford English Dictionary defines the word as "a nonsense word, originally used esp. by children, and typically expressing excited approbation: fantastic, fabulous", while Dictionary.com says it is "used as a nonsense word by children to express approval or to represent the longest word in English."


According to WIKI, it was a word first recorded in Oxford dictionary in 1931:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious


That's atrocious, NoFlyBoy. Quite atrocious.
Posted By: Bill_Grant

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by DM
Originally Posted by carrick58
Data: Some people , I know say ( date da ) others say ( dat ah ) which one is correct ?


As a Brit I would say date-ah.

I know Americans say dat-ah, but the character Data in Star Trek was always called date-ah for some reason smile (Maybe Picard named him...)



As a programmer in Texas, I am always interested in "Day-Duh"
Posted By: bones

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by vonBaur
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Here a tongue twister my friend who can't pronounce sheet correctly will have trouble with:

How many sheets could a sheet slitter slit if a sheet slitter could slit sheets?

Or this one word from the classic Mary Poppins film.

Google says:

Quote
The Oxford English Dictionary defines the word as "a nonsense word, originally used esp. by children, and typically expressing excited approbation: fantastic, fabulous", while Dictionary.com says it is "used as a nonsense word by children to express approval or to represent the longest word in English."


According to WIKI, it was a word first recorded in Oxford dictionary in 1931:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious


That's atrocious, NoFlyBoy. Quite atrocious.


I like this one better (you have to unmute it):

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3t2aqk

v6,
boNes
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by vonBaur
Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy


Or this one word from the classic Mary Poppins film.

That's atrocious, NoFlyBoy. Quite atrocious.


Apparently kids in those days use to say that word a lot when they get excited about something.

Nowadays, they just curse with emojis.
Posted By: coasty

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/17/19 09:59 PM

Leicester is a local community that gets some folks riled up, as to how it should be pronounced. Is it Lee-cester or Lester? The founder of the settlement named it in honor of an Englishman, the Earl of Leicester and pronounced it Lester, but many locals insist it is Lee-cester because they live there and will call it what they please.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/18/19 01:03 AM

Or this place in Wales:

Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

Who the heck name this place?

Was he drunk at the time?

Listen to the correct Welsh pronunciation



Posted By: Marc

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/18/19 02:12 AM

For some reason I have a hard time with that word when asked what medication I take, Irbesartan
Being french probably doesn't help

Marc
Posted By: BD-123

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/18/19 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Or this place in Wales:

Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

Who the heck name this place?

Was he drunk at the time?

Listen to the correct Welsh pronunciation





The place name was lengthened in Victorian times to attract tourism: "contrived in 1869 as an early publicity stunt to give the station the longest name of any railway station in Britain".

As a resident of Worcestershire, I can confirm that it is mostly pronounced as 'Woostershere'. Rural vernacular would be 'Wussershyre' though authentic local accents are being diluted now due to population movement. Nearby market town Evesham, pronounced by older indigenous as 'Aysum'.
I live in a village called Naunton Beauchamp pronounced 'Beecham'.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/18/19 08:25 PM

Watching this makes me realize most of the English that I have been speaking all my life is mostly wrong.

Blame it on the schools and teachers that taught it to me and my Mum and Dad!

Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/19/19 11:46 AM

Don't you live in the UK NoFlyBoy? So why would you say that most of the English you have been speaking is wrong?
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/19/19 12:07 PM

In US. UK speaks more correct English than we do.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/19/19 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
In US. UK speaks more correct English than we do.



I find it odd then that you say "mum" instead of "mom". I'm 47 and I have never met an American in my entire life who says "mum" instead of "mom".
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/19/19 12:28 PM

That's cos we Americans don't speak correct English. Mummy instead of Mommy.
Posted By: DM

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/19/19 12:31 PM

To be fair, the accents & dialects within the UK are at the same time more extreme than in the US, so for most of the UK, pronunciation is "wrong" smile

"Correct" pronunciation is probably something like (what we would call) "BBC English" smile
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/19/19 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
That's cos we Americans don't speak correct English. Mummy instead of Mommy.



Sorry but a "mummy" is what you find wrapped in bandages stored inside some dark tomb in Egypt.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/19/19 04:45 PM

When I first started babbling I said Mummy instead of Mommy and then it became Mum.
Posted By: Azshal

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 12/19/19 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by bones
Originally Posted by vonBaur
Originally Posted by bones
Actually, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

Um, no. Datum is the singular and data is the plural. As for pronunciation of the plural, data, I believe dictionaries say that either is/both are acceptable. Rather like toe-MAY-toe / toe-MAH-toe.



In Latin, yes, but in engineering in terms of information, dat-ah is singular and date-ah is plural.

Kind of like how really it should be viri when we talk about more than one virus, which is correct in Latin, but in English we still say viruses.

v6,
boNes


I'll leave this link here:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2voh0q
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 01/07/20 07:13 AM

HaHa!

Attached picture img5e141b81e0240.jpg
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 01/07/20 11:37 AM

This isn't really a problem with pronunciation exactly but what's the deal with so many people now writing " could of", "would of", "should of" instead of "could HAVE", "would HAVE" and "should HAVE"? My guess it's because many people pronounce "have" as "of" since they leave out the "ha" part?
Posted By: TerribleTwo

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 01/07/20 01:24 PM

Ich.
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 01/07/20 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
This isn't really a problem with pronunciation exactly but what's the deal with so many people now writing " could of", "would of", "should of" instead of "could HAVE", "would HAVE" and "should HAVE"? My guess it's because many people pronounce "have" as "of" since they leave out the "ha" part?

Pretty much, PM. They hear "could've" without knowing it's a contraction for "could have", and repeat it as "could of" even though that makes no sense whatsoever.
Posted By: Genbrien

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 01/07/20 09:51 PM

French tongue twister
try to say that ***** fast

Papier (pah pee yhey)
Panier (pah nee yhey)
Piano

(paper/basket/ everybody knows what a piano is....)
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 01/08/20 02:41 AM

Friend of mine is European and he can pronounce the R sound. I can't do that.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 01/08/20 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Friend of mine is European and he can pronounce the R sound. I can't do that.



Anyone who speaks Spanish can pronounce it very easily as well so basically 90% of Miami. biggrin
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Words that you can't pronounce no matter how hard you try ? - 01/08/20 02:25 PM

How do you do the R with your tongue?

I can't!
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