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Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire

Posted By: Tom_Weiss

Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 11:45 AM

while undergoing refit,


https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1205077282601213953

apparently the fire is in the engines area
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 03:47 PM

It's obviously an CIA plot to keep the ship in dock forever.

Sinking dry docks, fires. Whee.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog
It's obviously an CIA plot to keep the ship in dock forever.




But...but..but..I thought Putin and Trump were the best of buddies??? That's what the news media keeps telling me.
Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 05:22 PM

I'd be surprised if they don't completely retire that old wreck after this.

As it is, they only retain it for skills preservation in case they actually manage to build a new carrier someday.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 05:23 PM

A couple of sites report that's Russia's only aircraft carrier.

What happened to the rest of them?
Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
A couple of sites report that's Russia's only aircraft carrier.

What happened to the rest of them?


Gone, the last one was sold to India.
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 05:42 PM

I don't think the Russian/ Soviet navy ever had more than one operational carrier, other than a few months at a time when one came out of maintenance and just before the other went in.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 05:45 PM

Just read one of them became a Chinese carrier.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 05:47 PM

If you ask me, it was a total waste of resources and time for the Soviets to make aircraft carriers. That platform didn't lend itself to what the Soviets actually needed during the Cold War and it didn't play to their strengths. Those funds and materials would have been much better put to use on additional boomers, attack subs and large surface missile platforms like the Slava and Kirov class ships. And you know what? I think those same rules still apply to current day Russia as well.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 07:08 PM

Though Kuznetsov was offensively just as capable a SSM missile platform as Slava/Kirov. It only** lacks in area SAM capability, with a competent PD missile and missile/AAA system.

Theoretically the area AD should be provided by the air-wing, but I don't think they were large enough platforms (with some space taken by the missile offensive armament) to have a full size air-wing with both strike and interceptor capability.

** well, only that, plus the ability to operate at all with continual problems with her fresh-water condensers plaguing her service.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 07:21 PM

Russian aircraft carrier... blah.

In EECH, I've launched 18 Hellfires at the same time toward one from 8 KM away at altitude of 20 m and sunk it in seconds.

Their escort frigates fired missiles at my Apache and didn't score a single hit.
Posted By: Crane Hunter

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 08:44 PM

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Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 08:46 PM

I think that guy killed his liver right then and there.
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/12/19 09:17 PM

One dead, 2 missing, 12 injured. So far.
Posted By: NH2112

Re: Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov on fire - 12/13/19 12:49 AM

I wonder if a worker wanted to go home early, like the guy who set the nuke sub on fire at PNSY?
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