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Storm Area 51

Posted By: Chaz

Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 08:20 PM

https://www.facebook.com/events/448435052621047/
https://www.stormarea51.us/

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Anyone here going?
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 10:06 PM

I don't much go in for mass law breaking, so no.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 10:39 PM

there isn't anything worth seeing in the hangers other then drones and drone swarms, plus 2 satelites load.
the fun party is underground. But if people really wanted, assuming they made a motorcade no one would stop them on the ground.....too bad they just happen to have an air base nearby,railroad of death anyone ?
Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
But if people really wanted, assuming they made a motorcade no one would stop them on the ground....


I read this a couple times and still don’t understand what you are saying.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
But if people really wanted, assuming they made a motorcade no one would stop them on the ground....


I read this a couple times and still don’t understand what you are saying.


???

if hundreds of people packed in their cars outside the base and just drove in, military on the ground wouldnt be able to stop all of them...but they could request air suport from the nearby air base.
Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 11:02 PM

Not going to make a real argument here, but blocking a road is incredibly easy. I think you are very wrong about nobody would stop them on the ground. Off reading isn’t an option unless you have that kind of vehicle.

Not going to argue anymore here in Community Hall.
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Not going to make a real argument here, but blocking a road is incredibly easy. I think you are very wrong about nobody would stop them on the ground. Off reading isn’t an option unless you have that kind of vehicle.

Not going to argue anymore here in Community Hall.


why ? current events ? i doubt this is even real. also what is or was suposed to be off reading ?
Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 11:26 PM

Off roading. Autocorrect changed it and I didn’t notice.
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 11:34 PM

A few M72s will quickly discourage anyone that tries to go around a road block.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/19/19 11:34 PM

Well I guess they'll soon find out they can't run faster than bullets.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 12:06 AM

Just drop some job applications and apartment lease paperwork (so they move out of their mom's basement) and they will scatter like cockroaches in the light.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Chucky
Well I guess they'll soon find out they can't run faster than bullets.

Unless they get their hands on that sweet, sweet alien technology! xwing
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Rick_Rawlings
Originally Posted by Chucky
Well I guess they'll soon find out they can't run faster than bullets.

Unless they get their hands on that sweet, sweet alien technology! xwing


Anything is possible but short of bullet proof face masks, they are in deep #%&*$#. Even a .22 Cal bullet is devastating if it goes through the eye and bounces around inside the skull.
Posted By: Dart

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 12:40 AM

Protester: "They can't stop all of us!"

Private First Class sitting behind a Mark 19 automatic grenade launcher mounted on a HumVee: "Challenge accepted."

smile
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by Dart
Protester: "They can't stop all of us!"

Private First Class sitting behind a Mark 19 automatic grenade launcher mounted on a HumVee: "Challenge accepted."

smile


LOL

Indeed.
Posted By: WOLF257

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 04:02 AM

I'm pretty old school, so just a plain old M2 would work too or if I were in a particularly jaunty mood an M134 in the back of a 5 ton truck.
Posted By: Alicatt

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 07:58 AM

Looks like they have been practising on Arma3 biggrin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HCppEqfjhs
Posted By: Chucky

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 09:47 AM

One part of me hopes these idiots see sense and at the worst just show up and hang around the perimeter,get bored,get their participation medal and go home. The other part hopes a few will be brave enough to trespass and get their stupid asses kicked smash
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/20/19 08:43 PM

The guy who set up the website has gone public saying that it was all a joke and he seriously hopes no one actually tries to follow through. I'm convinced he's more concerned with having people's deaths on his conscience than he is any legal action taken against him.
Posted By: Zamzow

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/21/19 02:13 AM

As futile as the concept is, it does make for an interesting mental exercise...

Obviously a "million vehicle onslaught" would never work - they'd "see it coming" so easily and assuming lethal force was actually used, well forget about it. But I don't even think it'd come to that - they'd just "close" a few surrounding roads and that's the end of that...

On foot? Forget about that 1000x - that's seriously remote desert out there, "Area 51" itself probably wouldn't have to even lift a finger.

But let's say you're really serious about getting in - NOT that you're going to get inside any BUILDING there, but just to get inside and trespass. Just to see the place with your own eyes (a pointless and stupid goal...)

Interestingly, if you could somehow find a way to deal with little things like WATER you might actually have better odds (solo or a pair) of pulling off an incursion (but nothing more than exactly that) than some "state actor" actually trying to pull off an incursion and actual mission goal of some sort...

I'm thinking you'd have to be some kind of "survivalist" who really knows how to handle the desert to even begin to think of such an endeavor...

And even then I think all you'd accomplish is an incursion...
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/21/19 07:15 PM

I know I'm overthinking it, but...
Without vehicle support it would be impossible for a mob to penetrate to any of the central buildings. They're so far away from the perimeter that a large group on foot couldn't carry enough supplies because too many people would require extra care, which would overtax the ones who could physically pull it off. Vehicles could be modified to crash the fence, opening the way for even unmodified vehicles to follow. Unless there are unavoidable vehicle traps inside the base I imagine most stock SUVs could cover the distance. The pictures I've seen don't show any obvious signs of particularly difficult terrain, although some would undoubtedly find soft sand and bog down. A small group of well-trained individuals in good physical condition could manage without too much trouble, even penetrating the perimeter and making the trek undetected. But that's not what we're talking about here, is it?

Wolf, stopping an invading force with any weapon ultimately depends on having enough ammunition, either to kill all of them or to psychologically undermine their determination. I would say that seeing eight to ten .50 caliber or 50 to 100 7.62 rounds tearing through vehicles and bodies every second would do the trick equally well. Of course in the case of the M134 you'd probably have the added benefit of instilling terror in them for the rest of their lives at the sound of ripping canvas or hail on the roof.
Posted By: Dart

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/22/19 12:03 AM

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A small group of well-trained individuals in good physical condition...


Let me stop you right there and chuckle. That small group of well trained, well disciplined individuals isn't going anywhere near this cluster fudge, as they have far better things to do.

On firepower - I think just a couple 105 artillery rounds followed by some automatic grenade fire from an AC-130 would dissuade 99.99% of the Narito runners.

And I haven't even mentioned putting down a FASCAM minefield. wink
Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/22/19 12:27 AM

Actually, small groups of well trained and physically fit men try to penetrate on a regular basis. I don’t think you all appreciate all the security devices and sensors that are used and how they have external elements try to penetrate them to test them.

They take security there very seriously.
Posted By: Dart

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/22/19 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Actually, small groups of well trained and physically fit men try to penetrate on a regular basis. I don’t think you all appreciate all the security devices and sensors that are used and how they have external elements try to penetrate them to test them.

They take security there very seriously.


I have no doubt.

But I doubt they'll do it during Nerdfest.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/22/19 10:36 AM

Humanity has always had a high percentage of idiots for as long as humanity has existed on Earth but with the advent of the internet and especially social media, we are constantly reminded every day about just how many of them there are.
Posted By: RedToo

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/22/19 12:28 PM

Now we have the copycat clowns:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-49070362

screwy
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/22/19 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by RedToo



I have no doubt that some of these people actually believe in the Loch Ness "monster" but I think many others are just simply bored with their lives and want to do something "exciting".
Posted By: vonBaur

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/22/19 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dart
That small group of well trained, well disciplined individuals isn't going anywhere near this cluster fudge...

I agree completely. Kind of my point; the people foolish enough to get involved in this aren't likely to be up to the challenge.


Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Actually, small groups of well trained and physically fit men try to penetrate on a regular basis. I don’t think you all appreciate all the security devices and sensors that are used and how they have external elements try to penetrate them to test them.

I believe I do. And it wouldn't surprise me if they do task special forces types with it from time to time. If I was in charge that's what I would do. And it may be pride in having been one of those young men (a long time and several pounds ago), but I also wouldn't be surprised if they succeed a lot more than the people tasked with its defense would like and the government will admit.
Posted By: Alicatt

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/22/19 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by vonBaur
Originally Posted by Dart
That small group of well trained, well disciplined individuals isn't going anywhere near this cluster fudge...

I agree completely. Kind of my point; the people foolish enough to get involved in this aren't likely to be up to the challenge.


Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Actually, small groups of well trained and physically fit men try to penetrate on a regular basis. I don’t think you all appreciate all the security devices and sensors that are used and how they have external elements try to penetrate them to test them.

I believe I do. And it wouldn't surprise me if they do task special forces types with it from time to time. If I was in charge that's what I would do. And it may be pride in having been one of those young men (a long time and several pounds ago), but I also wouldn't be surprised if they succeed a lot more than the people tasked with its defense would like and the government will admit.


It is what they do, after putting in the security systems those small teams of very fit persons go in to see how they can get past them, once they actually cut the mains electricity going in, after that the location had to re-think how they got their power delivered and they did have quite a bit of redundancy at the time too.

As to Loch Ness … Ah hahahahahahaha, yeah, that will be the day, it's cold, it's deep, and the water is about the colour and consistency of oxtail soup once you get away from the surface layers, and the bottom is many feet deep in silt.
Posted By: Zamzow

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/23/19 01:08 AM

There'd be a world of difference between merely managing to pull off an incursion versus doing so without getting CAUGHT...

But of course I'm only talking about the very outside perimeter - not actually getting anywhere near anything inside...
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/23/19 10:37 AM

I don't know what the big deal is about the security at Area 51. Fox Mulder was able to get in just fine via a weakpoint in the chain link fence on the perimeter. biggrin
Posted By: adlabs6

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/23/19 05:04 PM

Even if someone got through all the US security stuff and into Area 51 itself... Marvin the Martian would just zap them with the disintegrator ray gun.
Posted By: Dart

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/23/19 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
I don't know what the big deal is about the security at Area 51. Fox Mulder was able to get in just fine via a weakpoint in the chain link fence on the perimeter. biggrin


Hahahahaha!

(they let him in as another part of the conspiracy against him)
Posted By: Coot

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/24/19 03:12 AM

I just watched X-Files the movie again. Its a movie I like and have seen a few times but not recently. When watching it again, I struggled with how effortless it seemed for Mulder to get to the middle of nowhere Antarctica in 48 hours, all alone in a snow vehicle. I know there's bunches of activity there now with varied national interests but it just seemed too much for a lowly FBI agent who's always getting into trouble managing to pull those logistics off combined with the fact he's headed to a place you'd think the shadow government would guard better. Even if remoteness contributed to primary defenses it makes it all the more harder to believe Mulder could get out there by himself at all and without drawing attention no less. I hate what he's done, but I enjoy all the smoking moments of the cigarette smoking man. He's kind of a sad character.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/24/19 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Coot
I hate what he's done, but I enjoy all the smoking moments of the cigarette smoking man. He's kind of a sad character.



Cigarette Smoking Man is all about "the means justifies the end". If he has to kill people to keep the black oil vaccine a secret and thus hidden from the alien race which is planning to colonize Earth then he will do so without hesitation.
Posted By: CyBerkut

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/24/19 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Coot
I hate what he's done, but I enjoy all the smoking moments of the cigarette smoking man. He's kind of a sad character.



Cigarette Smoking Man is all about "the means justifies the end". If he has to kill people to keep the black oil vaccine a secret and thus hidden from the alien race which is planning to colonize Earth then he will do so without hesitation.


PM, it is the other way around... "The end justifies the means". I think we're going to have to pull your radical card! winkngrin
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/24/19 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by CyBerkut


PM, it is the other way around... "The end justifies the means". I think we're going to have to pull your radical card! winkngrin



Whoops. That's what happens when I post really early in the morning before I've had my second cup of coffee.
Posted By: Coot

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/24/19 07:08 PM

That reminds me of something else PM with regards to the black oil vaccine. In the movie it is said that the vaccine is a very weak remedy yet when Mulder gives it to Scully, the whole alien ship reacts like its gone nuts, aliens breaking out of hibernation and they pull the plug and high tail it out of there. Was the vaccine infecting the ship or were the aliens detecting and as of yet unknown threat so they decided to play it safe and leave? The tube stuck into Scully eroded after the injection so they make it look like the "weak" vaccine was actually doing significant damage to the whole ship and its network of incubating aliens. I guess its nitpicking but those things felt like they didn't add up in the writing. A lot happens fast so I don't always catch or understand all of the fast paced dialogue.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Storm Area 51 - 07/24/19 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Coot
That reminds me of something else PM with regards to the black oil vaccine. In the movie it is said that the vaccine is a very weak remedy yet when Mulder gives it to Scully, the whole alien ship reacts like its gone nuts, aliens breaking out of hibernation and they pull the plug and high tail it out of there. Was the vaccine infecting the ship or were the aliens detecting and as of yet unknown threat so they decided to play it safe and leave? The tube stuck into Scully eroded after the injection so they make it look like the "weak" vaccine was actually doing significant damage to the whole ship and its network of incubating aliens. I guess its nitpicking but those things felt like they didn't add up in the writing. A lot happens fast so I don't always catch or understand all of the fast paced dialogue.



You ask a very good question and what happened is that the black oil vaccine was still a work in progress during the course of the events in the movie so hence why it was referred to as being "weak" but it apparently was still strong enough for the aliens to detect it as a threat.
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/30/20 08:34 PM

Place is top secret but why they don't make Google take down the photo.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/A...8e6237ae!8m2!3d37.2430548!4d-115.7930198

What exactly do you all think it's there under those buildings - outside of another Lockheed Skunk Works or Air Force aircraft?

UFOs that crashed? Extra terrestrial bodies? Remember that Alien Autopsy on TV in 90's? I remember watching that and being a kid I thought it was real.

The Storm Area 51 work out well for 5 people who were arrested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51#Facebook_event_to_storm_Area_51

Mulder and Scully, where are you?

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x61t0ia

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x61t0ib

Posted By: wormfood

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/30/20 08:51 PM

Nothing, it's a Potemkin secret base. All the real top secret stuff was moved to Area 52 decades ago.
Posted By: Zamzow

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/30/20 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy


What exactly do you all think it's there under those buildings - outside of another Lockheed Skunk Works or Air Force aircraft?


That new "fighter" the Air Force has claimed to develop (and fly) within one year is probably there...
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/30/20 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
Place is top secret but why they don't make Google take down the photo.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/A...8e6237ae!8m2!3d37.2430548!4d-115.7930198

What exactly do you all think it's there under those buildings - outside of another Lockheed Skunk Works or Air Force aircraft?

UFOs that crashed? Extra terrestrial bodies? Remember that Alien Autopsy on TV in 90's? I remember watching that and being a kid I thought it was real.

The Storm Area 51 work out well for 5 people who were arrested. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_51#Facebook_event_to_storm_Area_51

Mulder and Scully, where are you?

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x61t0ia

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x61t0ib



i dont see any air defense in those pictures, maybe they use mobile ones and are protect by another Air base ?
also i remember reading they had very long runaway but those really are huge,specially the one that goes beyond the base across the path of that dry lake..
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/30/20 11:35 PM

I see aircrafts and helicopters on the Google map photo.
Posted By: Nixer

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/30/20 11:38 PM

Who needs air defense when you have freakin alien technology?

Seriously, air defense from whom? Mexico?
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/31/20 12:25 AM

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Storm Area 51


Perfect title to video game. I buy it!
Posted By: Blade_RJ

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/31/20 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by NoFlyBoy
I see aircrafts and helicopters on the Google map photo.


i saw a interceptor f16 too i meant ground defense like sam or gun batteries.

protetion from a russian invasion ! you dont want your alien tech in the hands of a communist bear do you ?
also if mexico did decide to invade the us you guys would be in a world of trouble, i dont mean army but the cartel.
Posted By: Nixer

Re: Storm Area 51 - 10/31/20 01:14 AM

Even our Obama emasculated Armored forces would slice thru Mexico in a day or two.

I personally have advocated this for many years. Do the poorest Mexicans a favor...save them the walk, and take their "nationalized" oil company and spread the money amongst the citizens.

No way though, we have to wait till they sell out to China.

So back on topic, Mexico gets Stealth Fighters from China's area 51 in exchange for bases? Flown by Mexican pilots...right. Of course, if you read the "new" revisionist history being fed to everyone's kids, hey, it's cool.

Park that nightmare in the back of your mind...including a "Presidential" response.
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