there isn't anything worth seeing in the hangers other then drones and drone swarms, plus 2 satelites load. the fun party is underground. But if people really wanted, assuming they made a motorcade no one would stop them on the ground.....too bad they just happen to have an air base nearby,railroad of death anyone ?
But if people really wanted, assuming they made a motorcade no one would stop them on the ground....
I read this a couple times and still don’t understand what you are saying.
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if hundreds of people packed in their cars outside the base and just drove in, military on the ground wouldnt be able to stop all of them...but they could request air suport from the nearby air base.
Not going to make a real argument here, but blocking a road is incredibly easy. I think you are very wrong about nobody would stop them on the ground. Off reading isn’t an option unless you have that kind of vehicle.
Not going to argue anymore here in Community Hall.
Not going to make a real argument here, but blocking a road is incredibly easy. I think you are very wrong about nobody would stop them on the ground. Off reading isn’t an option unless you have that kind of vehicle.
Not going to argue anymore here in Community Hall.
why ? current events ? i doubt this is even real. also what is or was suposed to be off reading ?
Just drop some job applications and apartment lease paperwork (so they move out of their mom's basement) and they will scatter like cockroaches in the light.
Well I guess they'll soon find out they can't run faster than bullets.
Unless they get their hands on that sweet, sweet alien technology!
Anything is possible but short of bullet proof face masks, they are in deep #%&*$#. Even a .22 Cal bullet is devastating if it goes through the eye and bounces around inside the skull.
One part of me hopes these idiots see sense and at the worst just show up and hang around the perimeter,get bored,get their participation medal and go home. The other part hopes a few will be brave enough to trespass and get their stupid asses kicked
The guy who set up the website has gone public saying that it was all a joke and he seriously hopes no one actually tries to follow through. I'm convinced he's more concerned with having people's deaths on his conscience than he is any legal action taken against him.
As futile as the concept is, it does make for an interesting mental exercise...
Obviously a "million vehicle onslaught" would never work - they'd "see it coming" so easily and assuming lethal force was actually used, well forget about it. But I don't even think it'd come to that - they'd just "close" a few surrounding roads and that's the end of that...
On foot? Forget about that 1000x - that's seriously remote desert out there, "Area 51" itself probably wouldn't have to even lift a finger.
But let's say you're really serious about getting in - NOT that you're going to get inside any BUILDING there, but just to get inside and trespass. Just to see the place with your own eyes (a pointless and stupid goal...)
Interestingly, if you could somehow find a way to deal with little things like WATER you might actually have better odds (solo or a pair) of pulling off an incursion (but nothing more than exactly that) than some "state actor" actually trying to pull off an incursion and actual mission goal of some sort...
I'm thinking you'd have to be some kind of "survivalist" who really knows how to handle the desert to even begin to think of such an endeavor...
And even then I think all you'd accomplish is an incursion...
I know I'm overthinking it, but... Without vehicle support it would be impossible for a mob to penetrate to any of the central buildings. They're so far away from the perimeter that a large group on foot couldn't carry enough supplies because too many people would require extra care, which would overtax the ones who could physically pull it off. Vehicles could be modified to crash the fence, opening the way for even unmodified vehicles to follow. Unless there are unavoidable vehicle traps inside the base I imagine most stock SUVs could cover the distance. The pictures I've seen don't show any obvious signs of particularly difficult terrain, although some would undoubtedly find soft sand and bog down. A small group of well-trained individuals in good physical condition could manage without too much trouble, even penetrating the perimeter and making the trek undetected. But that's not what we're talking about here, is it?
Wolf, stopping an invading force with any weapon ultimately depends on having enough ammunition, either to kill all of them or to psychologically undermine their determination. I would say that seeing eight to ten .50 caliber or 50 to 100 7.62 rounds tearing through vehicles and bodies every second would do the trick equally well. Of course in the case of the M134 you'd probably have the added benefit of instilling terror in them for the rest of their lives at the sound of ripping canvas or hail on the roof.
A small group of well-trained individuals in good physical condition...
Let me stop you right there and chuckle. That small group of well trained, well disciplined individuals isn't going anywhere near this cluster fudge, as they have far better things to do.
On firepower - I think just a couple 105 artillery rounds followed by some automatic grenade fire from an AC-130 would dissuade 99.99% of the Narito runners.
And I haven't even mentioned putting down a FASCAM minefield.
Actually, small groups of well trained and physically fit men try to penetrate on a regular basis. I don’t think you all appreciate all the security devices and sensors that are used and how they have external elements try to penetrate them to test them.
Actually, small groups of well trained and physically fit men try to penetrate on a regular basis. I don’t think you all appreciate all the security devices and sensors that are used and how they have external elements try to penetrate them to test them.
Humanity has always had a high percentage of idiots for as long as humanity has existed on Earth but with the advent of the internet and especially social media, we are constantly reminded every day about just how many of them there are.
I have no doubt that some of these people actually believe in the Loch Ness "monster" but I think many others are just simply bored with their lives and want to do something "exciting".
That small group of well trained, well disciplined individuals isn't going anywhere near this cluster fudge...
I agree completely. Kind of my point; the people foolish enough to get involved in this aren't likely to be up to the challenge.
Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Actually, small groups of well trained and physically fit men try to penetrate on a regular basis. I don’t think you all appreciate all the security devices and sensors that are used and how they have external elements try to penetrate them to test them.
I believe I do. And it wouldn't surprise me if they do task special forces types with it from time to time. If I was in charge that's what I would do. And it may be pride in having been one of those young men (a long time and several pounds ago), but I also wouldn't be surprised if they succeed a lot more than the people tasked with its defense would like and the government will admit.
That small group of well trained, well disciplined individuals isn't going anywhere near this cluster fudge...
I agree completely. Kind of my point; the people foolish enough to get involved in this aren't likely to be up to the challenge.
Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Actually, small groups of well trained and physically fit men try to penetrate on a regular basis. I don’t think you all appreciate all the security devices and sensors that are used and how they have external elements try to penetrate them to test them.
I believe I do. And it wouldn't surprise me if they do task special forces types with it from time to time. If I was in charge that's what I would do. And it may be pride in having been one of those young men (a long time and several pounds ago), but I also wouldn't be surprised if they succeed a lot more than the people tasked with its defense would like and the government will admit.
It is what they do, after putting in the security systems those small teams of very fit persons go in to see how they can get past them, once they actually cut the mains electricity going in, after that the location had to re-think how they got their power delivered and they did have quite a bit of redundancy at the time too.
As to Loch Ness … Ah hahahahahahaha, yeah, that will be the day, it's cold, it's deep, and the water is about the colour and consistency of oxtail soup once you get away from the surface layers, and the bottom is many feet deep in silt.
I don't know what the big deal is about the security at Area 51. Fox Mulder was able to get in just fine via a weakpoint in the chain link fence on the perimeter.
Even if someone got through all the US security stuff and into Area 51 itself... Marvin the Martian would just zap them with the disintegrator ray gun.
I don't know what the big deal is about the security at Area 51. Fox Mulder was able to get in just fine via a weakpoint in the chain link fence on the perimeter.
Hahahahaha!
(they let him in as another part of the conspiracy against him)
I just watched X-Files the movie again. Its a movie I like and have seen a few times but not recently. When watching it again, I struggled with how effortless it seemed for Mulder to get to the middle of nowhere Antarctica in 48 hours, all alone in a snow vehicle. I know there's bunches of activity there now with varied national interests but it just seemed too much for a lowly FBI agent who's always getting into trouble managing to pull those logistics off combined with the fact he's headed to a place you'd think the shadow government would guard better. Even if remoteness contributed to primary defenses it makes it all the more harder to believe Mulder could get out there by himself at all and without drawing attention no less. I hate what he's done, but I enjoy all the smoking moments of the cigarette smoking man. He's kind of a sad character.
I hate what he's done, but I enjoy all the smoking moments of the cigarette smoking man. He's kind of a sad character.
Cigarette Smoking Man is all about "the means justifies the end". If he has to kill people to keep the black oil vaccine a secret and thus hidden from the alien race which is planning to colonize Earth then he will do so without hesitation.
I hate what he's done, but I enjoy all the smoking moments of the cigarette smoking man. He's kind of a sad character.
Cigarette Smoking Man is all about "the means justifies the end". If he has to kill people to keep the black oil vaccine a secret and thus hidden from the alien race which is planning to colonize Earth then he will do so without hesitation.
PM, it is the other way around... "The end justifies the means". I think we're going to have to pull your radical card!
That reminds me of something else PM with regards to the black oil vaccine. In the movie it is said that the vaccine is a very weak remedy yet when Mulder gives it to Scully, the whole alien ship reacts like its gone nuts, aliens breaking out of hibernation and they pull the plug and high tail it out of there. Was the vaccine infecting the ship or were the aliens detecting and as of yet unknown threat so they decided to play it safe and leave? The tube stuck into Scully eroded after the injection so they make it look like the "weak" vaccine was actually doing significant damage to the whole ship and its network of incubating aliens. I guess its nitpicking but those things felt like they didn't add up in the writing. A lot happens fast so I don't always catch or understand all of the fast paced dialogue.
That reminds me of something else PM with regards to the black oil vaccine. In the movie it is said that the vaccine is a very weak remedy yet when Mulder gives it to Scully, the whole alien ship reacts like its gone nuts, aliens breaking out of hibernation and they pull the plug and high tail it out of there. Was the vaccine infecting the ship or were the aliens detecting and as of yet unknown threat so they decided to play it safe and leave? The tube stuck into Scully eroded after the injection so they make it look like the "weak" vaccine was actually doing significant damage to the whole ship and its network of incubating aliens. I guess its nitpicking but those things felt like they didn't add up in the writing. A lot happens fast so I don't always catch or understand all of the fast paced dialogue.
You ask a very good question and what happened is that the black oil vaccine was still a work in progress during the course of the events in the movie so hence why it was referred to as being "weak" but it apparently was still strong enough for the aliens to detect it as a threat.
What exactly do you all think it's there under those buildings - outside of another Lockheed Skunk Works or Air Force aircraft?
UFOs that crashed? Extra terrestrial bodies? Remember that Alien Autopsy on TV in 90's? I remember watching that and being a kid I thought it was real.
What exactly do you all think it's there under those buildings - outside of another Lockheed Skunk Works or Air Force aircraft?
UFOs that crashed? Extra terrestrial bodies? Remember that Alien Autopsy on TV in 90's? I remember watching that and being a kid I thought it was real.
i dont see any air defense in those pictures, maybe they use mobile ones and are protect by another Air base ? also i remember reading they had very long runaway but those really are huge,specially the one that goes beyond the base across the path of that dry lake..
I see aircrafts and helicopters on the Google map photo.
i saw a interceptor f16 too i meant ground defense like sam or gun batteries.
protetion from a russian invasion ! you dont want your alien tech in the hands of a communist bear do you ? also if mexico did decide to invade the us you guys would be in a world of trouble, i dont mean army but the cartel.
Even our Obama emasculated Armored forces would slice thru Mexico in a day or two.
I personally have advocated this for many years. Do the poorest Mexicans a favor...save them the walk, and take their "nationalized" oil company and spread the money amongst the citizens.
No way though, we have to wait till they sell out to China.
So back on topic, Mexico gets Stealth Fighters from China's area 51 in exchange for bases? Flown by Mexican pilots...right. Of course, if you read the "new" revisionist history being fed to everyone's kids, hey, it's cool.
Park that nightmare in the back of your mind...including a "Presidential" response.