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Historical figures on film

Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 02:05 PM

So the consensus among critics seems to be that the recent portrayal of Winston Churchill by Gary Oldman is now the benchmark performance for Churchill. That's actually saying a lot when you consider how many talented actors have portrayed Churchill previously.


What are some other historical figures you've seen portrayed on film and TV that you would consider to be so brilliant that it should also be the benchmark for all actors?

Here are a few of my picks:


Julius Caesar - Ciaran Hinds (Rome)

Adolf Hitler - Bruno Ganz (Downfall)

John Adams - Paul Giamatti (John Adams miniseries)

Napoleon Bonaparte - Rod Steiger (Waterloo)

Abraham Lincoln - Daniel Day Lewis (Lincoln)

Stonewall Jackson - Stephen Lang (Gods & Generals)

Ivan the Terrible - Nikolai Cherkasov (Ivan the Terrible parts I, II)

Ludwig van Beethoven - Gary Oldman (Immortal Beloved)

Richard Wagner - Richard Burton (Wagner miniseries)

Mark Antony - Mark Purefoy (Rome)

George Patton - George C. Scott (Patton)

Queen Elizabeth I - Cate Blanchett (Elizabeth)
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 05:32 PM

Although I watched Immortal Beloved, I don't remember it too well except that haunting scene when Beethoven puts his ear on the piano and plays Moonlight Sonata.
Posted By: rwatson

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 05:46 PM

Good show PM I've got Abraham Lincoln on a cd with the Colt Good movie about a horse in the War also,,Gods and Generals and I would suggest Steven Lang as George Pickett in Gettysburg,
,Too damn cold to go outside and got about a foot of snow on my deck..might be a good day to watch Civil War movies and order a large pizza all the way,,Been just light snow for the last few days but it piles up..

And would like to add Jeff Daniels as Joshua L. Chamberlain in Gettysburg....Been to that spot t a lot of times over the years
Posted By: NH2112

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 06:52 PM

Malcolm McDowell as Caligula.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 06:55 PM

I definitely second McDowell as Caligula (Gaius Germanicus for us Roman history nerds) and Daniels as Col. Joshua Chamberlain.
Posted By: NH2112

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 07:48 PM

I liked Sam Elliott in 2 of his roles, Gen. John Buford and CSM Basil Plumley. Anyone who’s ever dealt with a CSM will tell you he WAS a CSM in that movie!
Posted By: NH2112

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 07:50 PM

Peter O’Toole as Henry II in Becket and The Lion in Winter.
Posted By: Bohemond

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 09:30 PM

Patrick Stewart in “The Lion in Winter”
Posted By: rwatson

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 09:48 PM

Not historical but I liked Tom Selleck in Quiqly Down under and Blue Bloods
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 10:13 PM

Ed Harris as John Glenn.
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by rwatson
Not historical but I liked Tom Selleck in Quiqly Down under and Blue Bloods



Oh, Tom Selleck as Gen Eisenhower in "Ike: Countdown to D-Day"

As odd as that sounds he was really good.
Posted By: Coot

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 11:03 PM

Jesus Christ - Jim Caviezel in "The Passion of the Christ"

Apostle Paul - Anthony Hopkins in "Peter and Paul"

Apostle Peter - Robert Foxworth in "Peter and Paul"

C.S. Lewis - Anthony Hopkins in "Shadowlands"

**breaking the rules here, sorry** Judah Ben-Hur - Charlton Heston in "Ben-Hur" (Its a fiction created in a historical time, setting and characters and its just too good to not mention)

Winston Churchill - Alberty Finney in "The Gathering Storm" (I liked very much John Lithgow's version in "The Queen" and I have not yet seen Gary Oldman's version so this is more of a preference choice as I'm sure Oldman's is equally impressive as they all are. I also have not seen the Gathering Storm "sequel" "Into the Storm" with Brendan Gleeson so I'm curious how he did.)

John Newton - Albert Finney in "Amazing Grace" (I'm not sure who if anyone else has played this man but I have to mention it.)

Jonathan Rhys Meyers - Elvis Presley in "Elvis" the miniseries (As an Elvis fan, there's not one actor that I can say is best over any other at playing this role. Most of them may do a few things right and miss it on others while those others get those right but then miss the rest. I think most movies made on a particular subject or person are like this. Kurt Russell obviously does a stellar job in "Pink Cadillac" and always does so well on the moves. I loved the 1990 Elvis T.V. series with Michael St. Gerard and thought he did great as a young Elvis. I wish I could find that series but I don't think anyone publishes it. The reason I picked Jonathan Rhys though is because even if it started out kind of iffy and not always quite there, his performance overall was pretty consistent and in particular, by the time you get to Elvis' Army days segment of the movie, I personally feel that Jonathan really settled into the role and was nailing not just the moves, but many of Elvis' mannerisms. That part of the movie in particular started to create that transporting effect for me so that's why I pick him.)

John F. Kennedy - Bruce Greenwood in "Thirteen Days"

Harry Truman - Gary Sinise in "Truman" T.V. movie


Posted By: Lieste

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 11:22 PM

Derek Jacobi as Clau... Clau... Claudius in "I, Claudius."
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/16/18 11:38 PM

Wow, you have some really great picks there Coot. Bruce Greenwood was fantastic as JFK!
Posted By: Nixer

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 12:20 AM

Bebe Rebozo as Richard Nixon.....

Oh wait....
Posted By: rwatson

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 01:41 AM

General james Stewart as Charles Lindbergh in "Spirit of St.Louis" a classic
Posted By: Chef

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 01:54 AM

Not that I consider Jim Morrison as much of a historical figure I think Val Kilmer did a good job portraying him.
Posted By: Tarnsman

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 03:11 AM

I would add Greg Kinnear as JFK. in "The Kennedys"

Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles in "Ray"

Matt Smith as Prince Phillip in "The Crown"

Two honorable mentions (ie very good character representations but not able to embody the role in my opinion):

Martin Sheen as Robert E Lee in "Gettesburg"
Leonardo Di Caprio as Howard Hughes in "The Aviator"
Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 04:13 AM

Gandhi - Ben Kingsley
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Tarnsman

Martin Sheen as Robert E Lee in "Gettesburg"





It was a smaller role but I preferred Robert Duval as Lee in “Gods and Generals”.
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 04:57 AM

Admiral William Halsey - James Cagney "The Gallant Hours"
Posted By: Clydewinder

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 05:00 AM

Gary Oldman as Lee Harvey Oswald? crap movie but he was great


in keeping with the JFK theme:

William Devane as John Kennedy in Missiles of October


agree with George C Scott as Patton for sure



not a movie, but I would nominate Robert Conrad as Pappy Boyington
Posted By: Forward Observer

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 07:21 AM

John Goodman as Fred Flintstone--best historical portrayal ever. biggrin
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 09:45 AM

Helen Mirror - Queen Elisabeth II
Gary Oldman - Winston Churchill
Posted By: BD-123

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 10:44 AM

As regards 'I, Claudius' and 'Caligula' John Hurt excellently portrayed a very disturbing Caligula:

Can't find the infamous dance clip in which I gather Derek Jacobi almost bust a gut trying not to burst into laughter.

Also Harvey Keitel as the brutal Eric Muhsfeldt in the harrowing 'Grey Zone'

Posted By: Priceyplanecrasher

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 12:08 PM

Milla Jovovich as Joan of Arc in The Messenger.

John Wayne as/in Ghengis Khan.

Bruno Ganz as Adolf Hitler in Der Untergang.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Priceyplanecrasher


John Wayne as/in Ghengis Khan.
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Heh, you have a good sense of humor! smile
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Forward Observer
John Goodman as Fred Flintstone--best historical portrayal ever. biggrin



LOL

On a serious note, he was great as Babe Ruth though!
Posted By: David Kennard

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Priceyplanecrasher

John Wayne as/in Ghengis Khan.
.


Psssh, Al Leong's portrayal of Genghis Khan was way better smile



+ bonus of Lincoln, Beethoven, Joan of Arc, Socrates, Freud and Billy the Kid all in one scene smile
Posted By: Priceyplanecrasher

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Priceyplanecrasher


John Wayne as/in Ghengis Khan.
.



Heh, you have a good sense of humor! smile

Actually someone posted this in another thread here, but indeed this must have been one of the greatest casting choices ever. biggrin
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Priceyplanecrasher

Actually someone posted this in another thread here, but indeed this must have been one of the greatest casting choices ever. biggrin



Gerard Butler as Attila the Hun is another epic funny casting choice. WTF were the producers smoking?
Posted By: Noter

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 04:53 PM

Kurt Russell as Wyatt Earp and Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday in Tombstone. Great flick.
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/17/18 07:03 PM

Kirk Douglas will always be Spartacus.
Charlton Heston as Moses
Yul Brynner as Rameses and King Mongkut of Siam.

Just thought of this one.
Gary Busey as Buddy Holly



Wheels
Posted By: Coot

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/18/18 11:41 PM

I'm glad you mentioned John Goodman as Babe Ruth. Loved that one as a kid and need to see it again.

I'm on the flipside with Noter. Though I like both Kurt Russel and Val Kilmer as actors and appreciated their work in Tombstone, for me I preferred Wyatt Earp. In particular I thought Dennis Quaid's Doc Holiday was exceptional. Because I prefer the tone and vision of "Wyatt Earp" I also prefer Kevin Costner's Earp. I'd see a Costner Western any day as that's where I think he tends to excel but there's a lot he does where he's just not that great. If I could have a warp machine I'd like to see Kurt Russel as Wyatt Earp but in Costner's movie alongside the original cast.

Its been along time but I remember liking Val Kilmer as Billy the Kid in a movie and if memory serves I much preferred that portrayal over Emilio Estevez's Billy in the "Young Gun" movies. By the way, does anyone know where the heck Emilio Estevez got his name? I'm assuming its just a stage name? The thread kind of morphed into anyone who has played someone historical but I think that's okay as there are some great performances of historical figures that aren't always explored in multiple productions.

Mark Rylance - Thomas Cromwell in "Wolf Hall"
Claire Foy - Anne Boleyn in "Wolf Hall"
Posted By: KraziKanuK

Re: Historical figures on film - 01/18/18 11:47 PM

From Wiki: Estevez was born on Staten Island,[1] the oldest child of artist Janet Sheen and actor Martin Sheen (legally Ramón Estevez).
Posted By: NoFlyBoy

Re: Historical figures on film - 07/31/23 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by NH2112
I liked Sam Elliott in 2 of his roles, Gen. John Buford and CSM Basil Plumley. Anyone who’s ever dealt with a CSM will tell you he WAS a CSM in that movie!


I saw this video reposted on Tik Tok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfqzvKZLjdQ

I Google him: a hero and a true soldier. He fought in WW II, Korea and Vietnam. God was over him.

Video of him getting a decoration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL9lEELYqJM

His 2012 funeral video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT8gbXAF5EY

Remember him from We Were Soldiers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7psvLkKY-SM
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: Historical figures on film - 07/31/23 02:39 AM

Wow. Didn't expect for this thread to be necroed after 5 years.
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