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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 12:40 PM

Hi all,

As in the New Year's Resolution topic discussed, here's your chance to share, shame, be shamed, find encouragement or simple check what others are doing in regards to nutrition and exercise. We've seen a lot of threads touching this, why not combine it.


For myself, I've been working out twice a week since two or three years, but started taking things a bit more serious this past May.

As a result in June (after a month vacation + lots of moving about) I needed a new hole made in my belt (no, not on the end wink ). Weight is down to 80kg but muscles are visibly improved. Sporting visible abs and well defined arm muscles, but not a bulky bodybuilder - I don't plan to either, I'm a Racer and that's what I aim for.

I do all my exercise at home with affordable and sometimes improvised gear. For nutrition, I don't care that much what I'm eating, but more on the amount of. Not counting every single calorie either, but I've gotten good at estimates. Currently aiming for an average of 1600 per day (1400+1400+2000 in three days) which is quite low, but then I have a sitting job and my daily need is about 2200 max. 1600 avg loses me not quite half a kilo per week which is a sustainable deficit.

My current goal is to get away from my 80-82.x weight fluctuations and make it a 78-79.9 fluctuation, i.e. I don't want to see a leading eight anytime I step on the scale. While retaining the muscle I have AND raising my daily input back to 2000 without weight gain.

This weekend is going to be hell because of extra plans - company christmas party tonight, Spa tomorrow.

Since the party today includes a buffet, I'm taking 2000kcal for the day, meaning tomorrow and sunday I'll be at 1400.

Today so far I've got a Muffin for breakfast (400) and a Kepab Pita with Chicken (600). That leaves about 1000 for the buffet tonight, and I'll drink wine, not beer. Going to miss my regular exercise tomorrow, adding a bit extra for sunday instead.
Posted By: Brun

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 01:13 PM

I have a 30 min/10km each-way ride to work which I do five days a week without fail. That's about it for regular exercise these days because arthritis in my right foot means I've had to quit running (boo). Never been anywhere near a gym in my life, and consequently have no muscles above my waist smile

Eat relatively healthily without really paying much attention to calories, but having done so in the past reckon I'm on about 1800. Probably drink too much. Net result of all that means I'm usually around 72-74kg.
Posted By: Goblin

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 03:33 PM

I've been working out with P90X for about 3 years now. Actually, I've done several varieties of those "intense" home workouts, but settled on P90X2. I don't look like those guys on the videos because I eat whatever I want. But I am in very good condition. I take my dirtbike out and ride enduro at least once a week; I'd like more, but riding areas in the U.S. have been dwindling and I live on the east coast which is even harder to find places to ride legally.
I want to start being more careful in what I eat.
I'm 46 years old and I'm currently at about 20% body fat and should be down around 14 or 15%.

So, with the goal of lowering body fat, I have cut down (but not cut out) on the following:
Beer
pastries and other sweets
High fat/sugar/salt meals
Posted By: Goblin

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 03:34 PM

@RSC -- What do you race?
Posted By: axman

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 05:39 PM

I started working out consistently in 2006 at the age of 44, and have been working out regularly 3 to 4 times a week.
3 of those workouts are one and a half hours long and include a 10-12 mile bike ride, followed by 45 minutes of machine-based weight lifting (i.e not free weight but weight "nmachines").

Despite all that, at 5'4', though I had put on alot of muscle, I had ballooned to 170lbs.

It wasn't until I reformed my diet that I started losing weight. I changed not only what i was eating (no more pizza, burgers, fries, etc.) and started putting more veggies and fish on the plate. I also cut by more than half the amount I was eating at night.

As a result, over the last 2 years, I have dropped 25 lbs, and feel great. Diet was key. Doc told me losing weight slowly lasts is a better option, as you get used to your new diet. You're less likely to feel hungry or back slide.

As someone once told me, no matter how much you work out, you can't outrun a bad diet.

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 05:49 PM

Cool thread.

Who else is willing to post fridge pics?

I've had family visit, look in my fridge and pantry and then tell me there's nothing to eat in my house. LOL.

BTW, that's not mold on the red bell pepper, it's a sticker. Also, the freezer pull-out drawer is filled up with sweet potatoes.

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I realized just this morning that every time I grab a handful of almonds (about 1/4 cup) I'm eating 170 calories. Holy Smoly! We're going to break it all down this weekend and figure out just how much I've been eating, I'm sure I'll be shocked.

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 06:01 PM

Also, we're going to need some before and after pics, like this...

Two with ex-sister-in-law, then forward progress...

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Posted By: axman

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 06:11 PM

Nice goin', Mark!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/15 06:32 PM

Thanks, but that last pic is old (sorry). I'm almost there again, I have to add about 10 lbs. or so to that pic, plus some grey in the goatee.

Recent pic (kind of cheating since I'm not standing)...

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/12/15 07:55 AM

My fridge is basically empty. There's two cans of beer inside and some dark chocolate.

I'll reply more in depth as I make time, currently damn busy.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/12/15 12:48 PM

Eating cleaner for me is all about what's available in my house, although healthy food can still be abused as I'm figuring out (nuts, raisins, cheeses, breads, etc.).

There's no convenient gym location (we tried it for a year, too far) so we bought our own. Eventually we'll upgrade the weights/bench.

Note: Wife works out with weights twice a week (also treadmill each morning and yoga on Mondays). Women don't get scary Madonna arms or Kelly Ripa over-ripped bodies by doing normal regular workouts with a home gym. I don't know what these women do to look like that but they must live in the gym and push super hard (not my speed, a little toning is good but don't overdue it, keep your body feminine - just my opinion).

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/12/15 03:42 PM

Nice equipment, all you really need.

How much wrights do you do?

I'll post part of my routine tomorrow.
Posted By: archermav

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/12/15 04:46 PM

I've been pushing weights for 15 years now. I try to get to the gym 4 times a week, but only do half an hour on each body part. I'm not in bad shape for my age and job I suppose. I had a bad shoulder injury that kept me sidelined for a few months so just trying to get back to where I was.

I was managing to decline press some useful numbers, on a machine, not free.

My diet is poor, not too fussed about what I eat, other then no fried stuff cos it knackers me IBS. Oh the joy of shift work.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/13/15 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Nice equipment, all you really need.

How much wrights do you do?

I'll post part of my routine tomorrow.

Uh, hmm...kind of embarrassed about this one, but I shouldn't be (I'm the only guy I know IRL who lifts *anything*) so here goes...

My main weight set came from Sears...

Weider Pro 290 W Home Gym (80 Lb. Vinyl Weight Set)...
http://www.sears.com/weider-pro-290-w/p-00615891000P

IIRC, it was on sale for just under $100.00 and I bought one for me and one for my father (his iron weights were packed away and just too much for him to deal with anymore). It's all at my house now so I now have a combined 160 lbs. of vinyl weights...

8 x 15 lbs., 4 x 10 lbs. = 160 lbs.

Plus an adjustable 30 lbs. max. dumbbell set.

Problem is that the original bar holds a max. of only 100 lbs., so I bought a new bar (the black one in my pic) that holds 120 lbs. (and to have a separate bar until I purchase a real curl bar). The bar itself is 10 lbs. (not a "real" 45 lbs. bar) and I'm currently bench pressing 120 lbs., 3 sets of 10 reps. For curls, military and the rest I'll make a note of it on my next workout.

<Timothy, USAFMTL and other gym rats are probably laughing their asses off right now!> biggrin

My shame isn't that I have weak upper body strength, my shame is that I haven't really progressed in a long time (I quit challenging myself with more weight and/or reps). In other words, I've become lazy with my workouts.

Besides the bars, I don't think my bench can safely hold much more weight than I'm using anyway. I would still recommended it for a starter set, especially if money is tight.

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For our next anniversary (Jan. 9) or shortly after (once we clear some room) we're going to upgrade to an iron set (plus my father's weights), including individual dumbbells and a sturdier heavy-duty bench where I can comfortably widen my grip. She'll keep using the old set (she likes it).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/13/15 03:55 AM

I thought this might be relevant to the thread.

I don't know how many of you are willing to post this much information or if you have recent numbers, the blood work on my last physical about 6 weeks ago was...

GLU: 94
ALT: 27
CHOL: 222
TRI: 134
HDL: 42
LDL: 154

I was surprised that my sugar was over 90 (usually mid-80s) and that my cholesterol was a little high. I'm taking a harder look at what I'm eating (starting with all the nuts, obviously).

I am on high blood pressure medication, although it's been reduced from where I started back in 2008. I'd like to get off of it completely and was told that was a future possibility, we'll see.
Posted By: FDM4BGE

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/13/15 06:36 AM

Hi,

I'm a 180cm and not far from 50's. Lost weight 100kg to 75kg after the 17 months without diets/programs.

I didn't count the calories or use gyms. Just did hikes, light running, in- & outdoor climbing and mostly body weight training at home. A 10kg kettle ball, rubber-bands and nowadays also hangboard(edit).


Drop the sugar, glucose syrup and corn syrup products and start eating the unprocessed foods as much as possible. A lots of green salads without dressings, which often contain sugar and/or syrups. Only a olive oil. Plenty of it. Also berries, nuts, eggs, fishes and oatmeals are good.

Eating is a habit and your stomach is getting use to big portions very fast. Just cut those portions and take at least half of the plate salads and then the rest. Never pile up. Drink lots of water. NO sweet sodas. Feeling hungry time to time wont kill you.

No, the desserts are not mandatory. Really.

Life is light smile
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/13/15 03:13 PM

So, a bit more time to reply.

Goblin asked what I race... a 675 Daytona Supersport on Circuits. Bulk is my enemy wink

What Axman says about diet is 100% true... realistically you can't burn more than 500 or 600 excess cal per day (unless you really have a go at it for multiple hours) and it's very easy to add these 600kcal just with bad food.
Of course building muscle raises your average burn rate, so that helps indirectly.

Mark, that ain't so bad for benching. I lack a proper bench, so I do pushups (with feet on a chair and pushup grips, which I figure puts about half my weight - 80kg on my arms). I do 3 sets with 25 reps - I do that actually for all my exercises, it's a number I find easy to remember.

No current blood work for me, so couldn't say, but it wasn't bad when we checked this summer.

I ate bad on friday (Christmas Party) and yesterday, so I figure these two days at 2000kcal didn't really lose me any. Want to make it a small meal today - 350g of Chicken Breast, two handfull of vegetables and a few cashew nuts stir-fried in the wok. That will be about 600kcal, with lots of protein. I always eat after workout, which today will be:

3x25 Pushups
3x25 Side Situps (25 each side) with 6kg weight behind my head.
3x25 straight situps (from laying flat, legs locked into bench) with 6kg weight behind my head.
3x25 Back Dips (with your back to the bench, put your weight on your hands, stretch the legs away, and use your arms to lower/raise your body)
3x25 curls with my Tera Band Rubber for each hand (Bizeps).

Five exercises with three repetitions each counts as 15 points in my system. I try to do 30 points a week - so usually two more days of nine points each. I like working out at home because in between sets I can get to my PC, check Facebook, do something - which makes it less of a drag to spend the time training.
Posted By: FDM4BGE

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/13/15 03:57 PM

RCS,

Pretty nice workout right there.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/13/15 04:24 PM

Thanks. Still at it as I type wink

It's a bit high repetition at 25, but I don't have better resistance/weight at home, and it's anyway better for definition and endurance. Oh, and to clarify... I do five different sets, then another five, then another five. Not 3x25 of the same exercise after each other, it would kill me.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/13/15 04:43 PM

FDM4BGE, the eating you suggested is about where I'm at now (right down to yesterday's Quaker Oats while adding cinnamon, walnuts, honey, raisins and wheat germ). For example, you'll no longer see salad dressings in my pics (avocado oil instead) nor will you see processed cheeses ("cheese food" and "cheese product"). I eat everything you mentioned on a regular basis. I enjoy a good homemade salad with lots of ingredients, only cheat is a little crunchy toppings (being replaced mostly by pumpkin seeds).

Except that I'm still going to eat the occasional desert (preferably homemade) and I do believe you should at least have an idea of how many calories you're consuming, especially if you eat a lot of higher calorie healthy foods like fruits and nuts.Also, our priorities today are much different, if we had to choose between replacing the large-screen TV or the treadmill (similarly priced when new), we'd choose without hesitation.

EDIT: In Jax, FL we had plenty of sidewalks and a nearby park to run and walk, owning a treadmill wasn't a necessity.

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RSColonel_131st, you're using body weight for your exercises, good job man. I'm not there yet. wink

Also, full honesty disclosure...I don't push/finish the third set unless my wife is home to spot me.

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/13/15 06:06 PM

That is a clever thing anyway. You don't want to end crushed under your weight bar. Hard to tell from the pics but I assume you have the ends unscrewed, so you could ditch weight?

Problem with body weight is it only gets you so far. I really wish I had a Butterfly machine, since breast muscles are hard to work with just pushups.

Oh, and well done on the before/after pic. That is already impressive.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/15 12:52 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/8op-bcn3CP/

Me.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/15 03:48 AM

RSColonel_131st, I use bar collars so I can't ditch any weight, I assume if I need to I can roll 120 lbs. off of me. smile I might not chance it with more weight but I'm pretty careful, if I'm not feeling it I'll take a couple of weights off the bar for the third set, especially if I'm not being spotted.

In the pic I have 4 x 15 lbs. + 4 x 10 lbs. + 10 lbs. bar = 110 lbs., I've since bumped it up another 10 lbs. to 120 lbs. (6 x 15 lbs. + 2 x 10 lbs. + 10 lbs. bar = 120 lbs.).

I try to keep good form, breathing and speed (not bouncing the bar off my chest) with each exercise, from what I've read and from watching videos. I'm more responsible for exercise stuff, my wife focuses more on what we eat and learning how to cook healthier when she has time.

For butterflys I just lay on my back on the bench and use dumbbells.

2016 is the last full year I'll be in my 40s so I'm feeling a bit of urgency to once and for all put weight loss behind me and work on keeping a proper size (mainly waist) and fitness, regardless of weight.

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Timothy, very nice! thumbsup Was hoping for something new though. smile If the opportunity presents itself...

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So this evening we were going over the numbers. In each bag and the bowl (snack-size bags, SimHQ coffee mug used for reference)...

Almonds: 1/4 cup 170 cal.
Walnuts: 1/4 cup 190 cal.
Raisins: 1/4 cup 120 cal.
Pumpkin Seeds: 1/8 cup 90 cal.
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Total: 570 cal. per bowl or bag

(Optional: mixed nuts [cashews, pistachios, almonds, pecans] + pumpkin seeds, same size and calories).

We figure I've been eating about 2 1/2 bags per day, one small bowl (pictured) after lunch plus continuous snacking throughout the day. That's at least 1400 cal./day of just snacking! eek

Now I'm going to pace myself with only a bag per day, I think that'll be a good start.

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I'm going to try for now on to include alternate measurements in my posts, maybe something like: lbs. (kg). Or is it stone?

EDIT: Oops, I forgot to include Brazil nuts (2/day for prostate health, add 60 cal.).

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/15 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
My fridge is basically empty. There's two cans of beer inside and some dark chocolate.

I'll reply more in depth as I make time, currently damn busy.

Forgot to mention, I loves me a little dark chocolate, our typical desert. 70% is as high as we can tolerate.




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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/15 09:28 AM

1400kcal from snacks? I made do yesterday on 1200 total wink I slept long and it was a slow day, but definitely you don't want 1400 from just snacks.

Have a look into tried or pickled vegetables (tomatos, chilli peppers, cucumbers). I posted in the "Dinner" thread that I like to match five or six dried tomatoes with a spoon of chilli-infused olive oil and another spoon of Balsamico vinegar, which is a great taste combination and has less than 100kcal per portion. Always having a glass of water at hand also helps, you can make your own soda. If the craving for something sweet hits I also can do with a can of Coke Zero (not super healthy but no kcal either).

To give you an idea how my kcal intake looks trough the last four weeks:

Day1: 1400
Day2: 1400
Day3: 2000
Day4: 1400
Day5: 1400
Day6: 2000
Day7: 1600

So, I average 1600/day on every week, I can move the high days around a little of course. This loses me about a pound per week, sustainable. Remember, you need 7000kcal deficit to burn one kilogram of fat.

A typical 1400 day can be: A doughnut in the morning (200kcal and stupid, but I need chocolate), 800kcal for lunch (that's for example a large kepab or a good helping from the buffet at the company eatery), 100kcal protein bar in the afternoon as snack, some fruits or vegetables in the evening and some dark chocolate before bed.

It's not awesome living but it isn't exactly suffering either. For me the trick was to break with the traditional "three meals a day" programming we all grow up with. If your idea of happyness is a waffles, bacon and egg breakfest with a nice burger at lunch and a bowl of Csoup in the evening then you're having 2500+ kcal every day and unless you're a construction worker or training for a thriathlon you simply won't burn this.

I would love to raise my base metabolism rate but without more cardio it won't happen, and I need to make time for that. Desk jobs and sleeping long on the weekends, no outdoor stuff because of temperature doesn't help. Might switch one weight day per week for one more cardio day. I have a Crosstrainer at home, or can go for some HIT circle.


As for chocolate, I use almost the same Lindt chocolate, but mine is labelled "70% Mild". Check if you can find it, it's again more bearable than the 70% full dark.

Problem with the Milky Stuff is that half a pack isn't even enough in one go, whereas the dark one I can live of one or two pieces as in your picture.

Very happy today since even after two "strong" eating days Friday/Saturday I'm well below 80 this morning, so right on target. Gonna keep discipline for a week more to buffer against Christmas cookies... then go for 1800 avg and increase cardio.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/15 03:20 PM

RSColonel_131st, I just wanted to clarify that my 1400 cal. of snacking is all coming from healthy unsalted nuts (except pumpkin seeds with Celtic Sea Salt) and raisins. In addition to the small glass bowl (equivalent to a snack bag) I'm probably eating another bag and a half just by constantly grabbing a handful of nuts throughout the day. It doesn't seem so bad each time you walk away from the pantry snacking on only a handful of nuts, but it adds up when you keep doing it.

But that's just a matter of quantity, I'm now limiting myself to only one snack size bag per day (570 cal.) no matter when I eat or snack on it, I just can't go back for more.

As far as quality eating, I think we have that down pretty good. For breakfast this morning I made the usual fried eggs over avocado and spinach (me two eggs, her one). For lunch I'm sending her off with chicken breast from a Costco rotisserie, with sweet potato and black-eye peas, piece of French Baguette bread and her own bag of assorted nuts.

I'm probably going to do my regular can of sardines, small piece of cheese off the block and a handful of unsalted crackers.

I *still* have to work on not giving my wife as much on a plate as I make for myself, which makes sense but I always feel like I'm ripping her off or something. smile This is the first time we're really looking at calorie count, I don't want to become obsessed with it but you have to at least have an idea what your consumption is.

We never feel like we're suffering unless we're around fried seafood or she gets a whiff of Cinnabon at the mall. When we do enjoy a rare cheat treat, we split it always.

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/15 03:36 PM

I understood it's 1400 healthy kcal, but it's still 1400 wink

My daily 1600 are often very crappy kcals (white bread, fried stuff), but the total still suits... I do have to make sure to catch enough vegetables.

Unsalted is good too, I recently started caring more about salt content and it's crazy. You basically can't buy any average food of the street or market and expect to stay within recommended amount of salt.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/15 05:09 PM

You're right about that, although taking in too many healthy calories might explain why over the past couple of years or so, as my weight has yo-yo'd, none of my previous obesity-related symptoms returned. I believe that even when I was tipping the scale again into obesity, I was still eating relatively healthy and exercising at least a little, I never completely returned to old habits since 2009. Or maybe because my high blood pressure was being treated this time with medication, I don't know.

We rarely eat out anymore and this helps a lot, although healthy eating can be expensive (especially when you buy in bulk), I assume it can't cost any more than constantly eating out like we were doing prior to 2009.

Regarding salt, most restaurant food taste a little too salty to me now. I hardly ever add salt, only pepper (like on eggs).
Posted By: Goblin

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 03:58 PM

We just got our Christmas care package from my sister and her family. Full of the best homemade cookies, brownies and several other sweet treats. My kids get so excited to see those packages with her address on it. This is one of the highlights of our Christmas season, but SO many calories to burn.

Here are the workouts I'm doing at this time (started a third round of P90X2 last week).

Monday Core
Tuesday Plyometrics
Wednesday Foam rolling/stretching (recovery day required!)
Thursday Total body + 20 minutes abs
Friday Yoga
Saturday Balance and power (another total body workout with balance)
Sunday Foam rolling/stretching (sometimes i choose to just rest this day)


I wear a heart monitor most of the time and burn around 700 calories per workout. Not sure about yoga, because I don't wear the monitor on that day. I know my heart rate doesn't get up like the other routines, but Yoga is NOT easy. This one is an hour and a half, which is a little long -- sometimes I swap it out with a 30 minute session as I've got to get to work on time (workout starts at 5:00am). I find working out in the morning works best for me because I'm just too busy/tired/irritated/distracted/ect after work. The hardest part of all of it is getting out of bed when its cold and dark. I tell myself that all I have to do is show up -- don't even have to do the workout. Just show up. I very rarely miss a day and I've never actually shown up and NOT worked out. But the option is there!


RSC, that is a sweet bike! Really looks like fun -- but so is the dirt! My ridding buddy moved away and I don't really like being 15 miles deep in the woods without a fellow rider. If I go down and get hurt or the bike fails, I'm screwed. So, I'm a little reluctant to go riding, until I can find someone to ride with. Never used to have this problem when I was a kid. Tons of places to ride and a lot of friends wanted to do it. In some places nowadays, you can't ride a dirtbike on your own land! People complain that it's too noisey. Which is understandable, but why not just make a noise law? Oh, that's right, because they wouldn't be able to blow leaves around.

Salt. Here's a story. I was taking a trip back to my home state of Washington a few years back. On the way to the airport, I was clearing my throat a lot. By the time I was on the plane, my throat was feeling pretty scratchy. Mid-flight (5 hour ride) I was feeling really crappy. The attendant came by with drinks and I thought a spicey tomato juice would be good for my throat, which by now felt raw. All they had was bloody mary mix, so I drank that. Then I looked at the ingredients list. 2100mg sodium!!
Posted By: Brun

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 06:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Goblin
I wear a heart monitor most of the time and burn around 700 calories per workout.

Heart rate monitors aren't a reliable measure of how many calories you're burning, particularly with the sort of exercises you're doing. More info here, specifically:

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So, it must be emphasized again: HRMs calorie counts are only accurate when there is a consistent and measurable relationship between heart rate and oxygen uptake. That means exercises and exercise movements that are aerobic in nature and that are performed at intensities between 40% of VO2 max and the lactate threshold
There are a number of conditions under which heart rate can increase, but without an increase in oxygen uptake:
-Stress, Illness
-Dehydration
-Environment (high heat and humidity)
-Heavy strength training (HR increases because of increased pressure)
-Changes in posture
-Cardiovascular drift during extended aerobic exercise


In other words running, cycling and swimming would be examples of where HRMs are most accurate, and that's still very dependent on other variables that they can't take into account.
Posted By: Goblin

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 06:42 PM

Yeah, I've seen that. I'll keep using it though -- it works for me. I started wearing it when I first started working out because I was afraid of overdoing it. Most of the time now, I use it as a relative gauge against past workouts. Rather a way of seeing that I've done something.

Anyway, I find the collected data to be motivational. Below are my last 7 recorded workouts.

Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 06:54 PM

My Crosstrainer display says that for 50 minutes, mostly between 140 and 160 heartrate, I burn 300kcal. Which I think is on the low side, and not accurate either.

Would be curious what HR they have as "Harccore" and "Fat Burn".

What you are doing is definitly a more well-rounded and healthy workout than I do. I'm all upper body... really should fit some gymnastics in there somewhere.

Maybe need to try the PS3 again - I have a game called "UFC Personal Trainer" on it which I used for a while, and it's got quite a nice mix of body-weight exercises which are tracked and rated via the "Move" controllers. Some of the stuff for XBone Kinect is a really neat way for personal "general fitness" training IMHO.

As for the Dirt Bike, I've been meaning to try and rent some kind of 250ccm MX in the fall or spring. Supposedly it's a good complimentary riding exercise to the circuit/tarmac stuff. We have a few dedicated dirt tracks here (staffed, medical services etc...) - nothing like that in your area?



Posted By: Goblin

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 07:45 PM

I used to have a treadmill that would tell me I burned 900 calories when I know it couldn't possibly have been that high, so I always divided by 3. It's just an estimate.

I don't pay too much attention to what they're calling "hardcore" and "fat burn", but they are based on my personal HR zones for those. I had to enter some data into my Polar HRM and it goes in and calculates my training zones. The theory is you stay in a particular zone based on what you are trying to achieve. So, if you want better endurance, you target a certain zone for a certain time. Anyway, "fat burn" kind of makes sense, but "hardcore" could mean a lot of things.

I have a CRF250X, which is a slightly modified version of the MX model. Suspension is tailored for woods riding and the cam is modified to change the timing a little. Actually, there are a couple of MX tracks. They're a couple of hours drive, but maybe I'll give that a try. At least somebody would be around. And yeah, I've heard that dirt riding is a good exercise for street riders.

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 07:48 PM

What the ???

All this electronic mumbo jumbo is too Rocky IV to me! biggrin

BTW, who else listens to the various Rocky soundtracks when they're working out or running? Come on, just admit it...

Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 08:07 PM

That'd be just the kind of bike I'd want as a Secondary... wink though being Austrian it would likley be a KTM.

MX is much cheaper than road circuit, much easier to get to (many tracks in country but only one racing circuit) and less chance of wrecking expensive parts.

But then, nothing compares to braking 240 down to 140 (km/h), leaning the bike over as quickly as you dare and hitting the apex just right.

What I meant about HR is - what are your supposed numbers? I know at 160 on the Crosstrainer I am going a bit high, but acceptable. Maximum fat burn is lower.

Today's exercises:

3x25 Pushups
3x25 Tera Band Trizeps stretch
3x25 Curls with 22kg (25 each hand)
3x Straight Planking, legs elevated (static position, hold for at least 90s, better two minutes).

So that's 12 points to fire up this week. Had a bit of discipline laps yesterday and had some noodles in the evening, so that were 2000 instead of planned 1400 kcal... but doing okay today currently at 1100, adding 200 from Beef Jerky after training (for the protein).
Posted By: Goblin

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 08:54 PM

I'd love to have the KTM 300 XC-W, but can't justify the cost right now. The Honda is my first 4-stroke, well, since an XR-75 that my brother had back in 1978. After that it was all two-strokes.

That supersport circuit looks awesome.

My numbers are something like:
warm/up zone: min - 115
Fat burn: 115 - 120
Aerobic: 120 - 140
Anaerobic:140 - 158
Vo2 max: 158 - 178

I think if my goal was to burn fat I'd just go out walking.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 09:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Goblin
Here are the workouts I'm doing at this time (started a third round of P90X2 last week).

Monday Core
Tuesday Plyometrics
Wednesday Foam rolling/stretching (recovery day required!)
Thursday Total body + 20 minutes abs
Friday Yoga
Saturday Balance and power (another total body workout with balance)
Sunday Foam rolling/stretching (sometimes i choose to just rest this day)


Is yoga part of the P90X2 program or is this a class you attend?

I've been resisting but I know it's effective, I've seen what it does for my wife. She has very mild scoliosis (front-to-back, visible on x-ray) and her back bothers her sometimes if she misses a couple weeks in a row. My back and shoulders always kinda ache now, I'm wondering if I should just suck it up and try a class. Heck, I could probably stand to do a lot more simple stretching as well.
Posted By: Goblin

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 09:36 PM

I've actually been doing Yoga for about 10 years. I started by going to classes for about 2 years and learned proper form from an excellent teacher. It can get very challenging. One of the good things about it though is that there is something for everyone.

The yoga I list above is part of the P90X2 routine and is no walk in the park. Last week I swapped out this Yoga for the P90X3 yoga which was only 30 minutes. On other occasions I sit in on my wife's yoga routine or pop in a power yoga DVD.

When I'm doing P90X I only listen to the DVD sound track. I did Insanity a couple of years ago and got to where I'd mute the TV and listen to some Rush or Scorpions or something (but not Rocky soundtrack cool maybe I'll give that a try) . The moves in insanity didn't require the level of concentration that P90X does. That's not quite right, what I mean is I need to listen to the little reminders about form when doing P90X, but not for insanity.
Posted By: shan2

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 10:01 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Problem with body weight is it only gets you so far. I really wish I had a Butterfly machine, since breast muscles are hard to work with just pushups.


It depends on how you do your pushups. If you want to build pectoral mass, archer pushups coupled with muscle ups will do nicely. If you have a medicine ball, then the 3-point pushups will also work well. Normal pushups must be slowed down in order to gain maximum benefit.

For martial arts training, we used to do pushups on a 2x4 plank balanced on top of a can of soup. The soup can was placed at quarter positions along the length of the 2x4. After a while, you were basically doing a one-armed pushup on an unstable surface.

edit:

Here's one of the books on the subject that I really liked:

http://www.amazon.com/Bodyweight-Exercises-Extraordinary-Strength-Johnson/dp/0926888781

Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 10:46 PM

Thanks Shan, those are all excellent suggestions. The "muscle-up" seems similar to standard dips but I don't have the device for those. Might indeed be easier to find a rack/bar.

Those Archer Pushups are an interesting variation, just tried it now... yikes.
Posted By: shan2

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/15 10:57 PM

Glad you liked the Archer Pushups. smile

If you don't have a pull up bar for doing muscle ups, then a good way to substitute is to use gymnastics rings suspended from the rafters. They also work wonderfully well for doing butterflies.

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/17/15 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Goblin
When I'm doing P90X I only listen to the DVD sound track. I did Insanity a couple of years ago and got to where I'd mute the TV and listen to some Rush or Scorpions or something (but not Rocky soundtrack cool maybe I'll give that a try) . The moves in insanity didn't require the level of concentration that P90X does. That's not quite right, what I mean is I need to listen to the little reminders about form when doing P90X, but not for insanity.

IMO, killer treadmill/track music...

Rush - A Show of Hands (concert):
http://www.amazon.com/Show-Hands-Rush/dp...a+show+of+hands

Representing my least favorite era of Rush (mid-late 1980's) but the steady beat on many of the songs makes it easy for pacing. I sometimes imagine myself as Neil Peart getting tired during a show, you can't just stop and rest in the middle of a performance, and so I keep running until the next song, and then the next... Cheesy, but it works for me.

Wife listens to her own tunes (also into music) and when we exercise together (even if just walking a track) we immediately plug in to our tunes (headphones, sometimes stereo at home). This isn't the time for conversation or small talk, "How was your day?", we'll do this before and after or in the car.

One my favorite Rocky tunes (even better than Survivor's "Eye of the Tiger")...

Rocky - Going the Distance:

Posted By: Harry-the-Ruskie

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/17/15 01:48 AM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st


What I meant about HR is - what are your supposed numbers? I know at 160 on the Crosstrainer I am going a bit high, but acceptable. Maximum fat burn is lower.



http://www.thewalkingsite.com/thr.html

I have not really bother too much about numbers but those above give a good guide as to what you are burning off.

Training at 80+% target heart-rate is probably not for everyone. At the end of the day, work at your pace and do not overdo things. You do get fitter if you consistently apply yourself.

I'm 46. About 175kg. Weight hovers 69 to 71kg. I ride the bike for about 40min to an hour, 4 to 5 times per week.

A year ago, I lost about 6kg in 2 months from a lot of cardio work and a high-protein low carb diet. The more lean muscle you put on, the higher your metabolic rate and the more you burn. I have since gone back to a normal but helathy diet and maintained my target weight. Stress test after one year of activity showed a marked increase in cardiovascular endurance and recovery.

Good luck.
Posted By: citizen guod

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/17/15 07:11 AM

Lost 80 lbs last year and a half. Still 30 to go but no hurry, and that is one of the tricks. You can lose fast, but very very few people can keep it off. After hitting the -80 plateau, it is easy to maintain the weight loss. Even if I cheat over a pizza, as long as I don't perpetuate a feeding frenzy the next day, and go back on the regular maintenance diet, it comes right back down. Other thing is, we take the dogs on a daily brisk walk from 1.5 to 2.5 miles depending on the weather. Bigtime exercise is terrific but the exercise time / amount versus the calorie count doesn't balance out. Exercise in moderation daily and don't miss a day. Eating... More small meals. Never let yourself get too hungry. Guzzle water. I think I'd read if urine is yellow and not clear, it indicates some level of dehydration. Many people supposedly think they're hungry but they're actually dehydrated. Find yourself something that works as a snack. My Achilles heel is chips (as in potato and corn) and pastries. For my substitute, the lady bakes 2-3 pans of whole oats, one or two eggs to hold it together, and mixes in raisins. That does it! Rather than living without goodies, I substituted it when the munchies hit for healthy and good tasting. Think what you really like and think through a stand-by substitute.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/17/15 10:51 AM

Guod Summary wink and points especially well made on Snacks and Water. Also right...find something you enjoy or at least don't mind doing, a little regular "acceptable" time investment always beats NOT going to the gym for the two hour workout. That's what really helped me, finding sets and time intervals which allow me to stay connected on my internet things meanwhile.

Thanks Harry for the sheet. It fits what I've been doing, mostly between 80-90% of max HR for ~40 mins. Maybe a bit high, but I can sustain it easily, I don't breath heavily....should be safe enough.

Team Dinner yesterday sponsored by company - Burgers - another 2000kcal. But I'm finding that even in a week with four days of 2000 I still average 1700 which is fine.

Trying a bit of reverse dieting here...
http://www.muscleforlife.com/reverse-diet/

Posted By: Harry-the-Ruskie

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/17/15 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Guod Summary wink and points especially well made on Snacks and Water. Also right...find something you enjoy or at least don't mind doing, a little regular "acceptable" time investment always beats NOT going to the gym for the two hour workout. That's what really helped me, finding sets and time intervals which allow me to stay connected on my internet things meanwhile.

Thanks Harry for the sheet. It fits what I've been doing, mostly between 80-90% of max HR for ~40 mins. Maybe a bit high, but I can sustain it easily, I don't breath heavily....should be safe enough.

Team Dinner yesterday sponsored by company - Burgers - another 2000kcal. But I'm finding that even in a week with four days of 2000 I still average 1700 which is fine.

Trying a bit of reverse dieting here...
http://www.muscleforlife.com/reverse-diet/



What Guod said. Couldn't have summarized it better if I tried. Those are sensible advice that will work across the board whether you are superfit or just some old guy trying to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

As a rule, I also see my cardiologist at least twice a year given my family's history of heart ailments. At the same time, it's a good way to have a professional to monitor my cardiovascular system and keep track of my progress and to get advice on what I could be doing better. It helps too that my doc is also an athlete (he runs marathons and bikes competitively. A periodic stress test shows a bunch of info that you do not realize subjectively, particular on your performance and recovery rates. I don't really trust fitness and gym gurus to read cardio charts. They know what exercise to do but have next to no idea of the medical shape you are in.
Posted By: Harry-the-Ruskie

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/17/15 01:37 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st


Trying a bit of reverse dieting here...
http://www.muscleforlife.com/reverse-diet/



What I did was I got on to Isagenix products for 2 months. Basically, a hi-protein/low carb program but with normal 3 meals a day interspersed with protein shakes. And at the end of each week, you go on their cleanse for one day. I cannot recall I was ever hungry because this is not a diet.

I got it written down somewhere. Don't have the numbers on me but my lean muscle mass shot way up and the body fat went way down from when I started.

Here's the thing. After I was done on the 2 month package I stopped taking protein shakes and followed basically what Guod did. Healthy, balanced meals, eat in moderation, small but frequent meals, maintain my exercise regime. Unless we are body building, I don't think we need to pump up on an excess of protein because in the long run that will only overwork your liver and kidneys.

It's not that difficult to maintain a healthy bodyweight once you get rid of the excess fat. By and large, if you have replaced that with more lean muscle, your increased metabolism should be a self-sustaining furnace to burn calories if you stoked it properly.

I'll say one more thing though. Be wary of getting nutritional advice from a lot of gym types. They may not be on the same objective as you are and so what they eat is not necessary suitable for you. I do lift weights but by and large my regimen is mostly cardio.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/27/15 04:51 PM

So, how's everyone doing after the feast days?

I find to my surprise that I avoided the cookie madness and see a quite low 78.5kg on the scale this morning. Now this is a dry and empty weight, but doesn't appear like I suffered over the holidays.

Had to reduce training the past week due to possible complications with my eye but that appears sorted now. So, good to go for 2016.
Posted By: Harry-the-Ruskie

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/27/15 09:48 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
So, how's everyone doing after the feast days?



Hah ! Still lean. Never cared for all the gorging during festivities. Did a one hour session on the bike yesterday. Did lots of sprints. Bought a new Catsye Rapid 5 rear light for myself. Not the most expensive toy I got for Christmas but certainly the safest and most bang for the buck.
Posted By: Smokin_Hole

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/15 11:41 AM

I gave up dairy, eggs and minimize animal based protein. In one month I shot past my target of 176 and hit 172. That's where I've been ever since. I'm 6'4" so that's pretty thin but feels great.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/15 02:09 PM

Wow, that's pretty slim. If you weren't doing aerobatics I'd be worried about your fitness level or muscle mass percentage, but obviously you are doing good in those departments.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/15 04:18 PM

Yeah, some of you guys are really slim!

Of course it depends too on your frame. If you're small framed you can be slim but still have a reasonable amount of body fat, even if you're at the lower end of your normal BMI range. You can usually tell by your wrist measurement (ankles as well) because it's one the least fatty parts of your body. So unless you're morbidly obese, you shouldn't have any fat on your wrist regardless if you're overweight or even moderately obese.

Check it: Take your thumb and middle finger and wrap it around the smallest part of your wrist. If your fingers just touch (as do mine), you have a medium frame. If you can't touch your fingers you have a larger frame and if they overlap you have a smaller frame (if they touch past the knuckles you have a *tiny* frame).

So take your frame size and conclude about what your BMI should be (unless you're really muscular, possibly other exceptions). I should be no more than around 160 lbs. (70.5 kg) and I can verify this just by looking at my brother who has a similar frame and height.

++++++++++

If I can make it to the new year inside obesity (203 lbs./92 kg - 5'-9"/243.84 cm) I'll be happy, I haven't done so great this month. In addition to overeating, I really need to keep my alcohol consumption in check, I can get a little carried away this time of year (although I sometimes go weeks and even months without a drink, it's usually for an occasion).

2016 is going to be THE year, I have no doubt!


EDIT: On the wrist check, my fingers do overlap a little (to the nails) so I guess my frame is somewhere between small and medium.
Posted By: archermav

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/15 04:49 PM

Thought I'd join in if you don't mind fellas? I'm fast approaching 46 and I am 5'08 and weigh in at 14.6 stones (around 202 pounds). I've been into weights for a number of years, and really should be huge but I've never bothered with the diet side of things. Pretty silly of me, but there you go. I'm aiming to get to 15 stones this year.

I don't drink (turns out I'm an angry drunk so stopped a long time ago) and I still wear the same work belt I was issued with 25 years ago (mind, I've moved the notches out somewhat)

I lift about 4-5 times a week, but only one body part at a time. Never spend more than 30 minutes in the gym as my attention span is terrible.

I know that my diet needs looking at, but as both my wife and I work totally separate shift patterns, and work pressures, we almost eat what we can when we can.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/15 05:24 PM

What do you like eating? Maybe we have a few good ideas for you.

But so basically... you want to get bigger, not smaller? That's a new one for this thread smile

Personally I'm really happy... I ate a lot yesterday, drank a lot of water to go with that, and as such quite "filled up" barely exceeded my target 80kg on the scale. It's always easy to make your weight look good if you fast for a day or two, but after some healthy eating the truth is the truth.
Posted By: archermav

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/15 06:10 PM

I eat a lot of chicken, but find that I can only do small portions now (IBS). When I'm at work (4 days on/4 days off) I avoid sugary stuff, cakes etc and stick to a high protein diet. However, when not at work, anything for quickness. Not into fish(unless deep fried covered in batter!) or vegetables in a big way.
Posted By: Smokin_Hole

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/15 08:21 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Wow, that's pretty slim. If you weren't doing aerobatics I'd be worried about your fitness level or muscle mass percentage, but obviously you are doing good in those departments.


It's true that I have the worse possible body type for sustained g. But I don't fly aerobatics in jets and rarely see more than 4 - 6 seconds of +-g at time. I gave up on muscle a long time ago. I just don't have the frame for it. I'm built like a mountain specialist in cycling. (Well maybe in my dreams I am am built like that). For my age though I couldn't be happier. I run and occasionally bike. But here is something I learned about myself:

Exercise has no measurable effect on my body weight. This may not seem intuitive but for me it is a fact. Because of injury I have gone months without running. My morning pushups, leg lifts and situps are a religion and never get skipped. But otherwise so long as I stick to a diet low in animal protein and high in whole foods and fiber, I maintain a precise 172 day-in, day-out. Honestly I don't think I am all that unique in this regard. Look at photos and film of people prior to WW2. Most were relatively slender. And back then, formal exercise was rare and maybe even a little weird. But small farms were more common as was local produce. Food required either effort or expense and people ate less of it. And people with the means treated food as a form of health care. They took it seriously. This is still very much the case in Japan (where my wife is from) and I think that plays a big role in why obesity is less of a problem there. But the biggest killer is sugar in all its forms. The body reacts strongly to sugar, especially when the sugar comes without the expected fiber. For most people maintaining a safe body shape should be easy unless one has been raised since childhood on processed sugary foods and drinks. Kids who have, have bodies that have been completely rewired is such a way (and through no fault of their own) they will struggle all their lives no matter how well they eat. That's pretty much everything I know after having studied it casually for a year.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 02:27 PM

Hope everyone is having a good start for the new year.

About sugar, since my father is diabetic (on a lower dosage of Metformin), we're all trying to watch the sugar. The days they're here (5 days a week), his blood sugar drops 10 points.
Posted By: Duchess

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 04:03 PM

I've been doing the paleo thing for close to 3 years, been steady at 175. Previous weight was 225lb.

I've been 'cheating' a bit and it's amazing how one weekend of mediocre eating and drinking can do so much damage :p

Not to evangelize but it's a great way to keep in shape.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 04:12 PM

How strict is the paleo diet with carbs? I've found that it's very tough for me to lay off the carbs since so much stuff I love to eat has it!
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 05:51 PM

Could you give a short primer or link for the Paleo method you are using? It does sound interesting, but like PM I'd be slightly worried about all those forbidden carbs.

I'm doing great this week, last one enjoyed 1800kcal average - that is really not a "diet" anymore - and end up with yesterday and today 79.x on the scale. Might be the first week I can stay sub-80 every single day, and still eat well enough.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 07:14 PM

Cutting way back on the nuts is making a difference I think, I'm losing again...slowly. Now it's a matter of time, I just have to wait it out patiently again.

If I can just maintain the healthy diet that I enjoy I'll be fine.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 07:15 PM

I'm no dietary expert but I thought nuts were mostly all protein and very little carbs?
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 07:57 PM

Nope, nuts are fat and carb, with some valuable micronutritients.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 08:08 PM

Nuts are also high in calories.

PM, see my nut pic on page 3 (from my viewing), a snack bag size or small glass bowl of mixed nuts is 570 cal. I was snacking on approximately 2 1/2 bags (or bowls) throughout each day, I've cut back to only one.

Also only one (vs. two) Brazil nut, which I now understand is all that's needed for prostate health.

What I do now is eat one bag of nuts per day, but I pace myself and eat a smaller bowl (taken from the bag) after lunch. Also, anytime I get a little hungry between meals/snacks, instead of reaching for a handful of nuts I eat a heaping teaspoon of cottage cheese (which I love) and it satisfies me.
Posted By: Duchess

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 08:21 PM

A lot of the recipes I like to use are here:
http://paleoleap.com

What I usually tell people is to start with a 30 day clean diet such as this:
http://whole30.com/whole30-program-rules/

(No I am not shilling for these people, just get the dietary info you need, no need to sign up for anything)

And then introduce foods if you like and see how you feel, etc. My advice is if you can't handle 30 days of eating clean, then how serious are you really about your long term health?

This holiday season I had some chocolate (Mmmm ferrero) a bit too much to drink, a few naughty food items. Man am I ever GRUMPY as all hell now! Sugar really is like a drug.

Also, watching your sugar intake? If you're eating bread, and lots of carbs, that's still glucose, it's essentially the same thing. I don't do the gluten free #%&*$#, who knows what's in that anyway.

To answer the question about carbs, we actually do eat carbs (we as in my family) lots of sweet potatoes, even the odd *gasp* white potato here and there. Key thing is, we still make everything from scratch. I know exactly what ingredients I use, there's no mystery there. I make my own mayo, (takes 1 minute and tastes awesome) ketchup, whatever.

The reason I've stuck with it, is that it works. If you're a fatass, the fat will disappear. It's not some weight watchers #%&*$#, where you may lose a pound a week or what not. Took me 3 months to drop 50lb. It was more like 65, but people just don't believe me so I just say 50.

Downsides? I haven't had a beer in years. No chips, no chocolate bars, no soda, no juice, no bread, no cake, no cookies, no nothing. However I eat lots of seafood, bacon & steak and good veggies to make up for it smile
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 08:25 PM

Thanks for those tips Duchess. As for the sugar aspect I could cut it out for the most part except for the sugar I use for my coffee.

Oh yeah and my wife is addicted to those Ferrero Rocher chocolates. I just recently found out that they're made in Canada.
Posted By: Duchess

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 09:01 PM

Yeah those things are ridiculously tasty. I didn't know they were Canadian made :p
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 09:08 PM

I try to stay off of bread, some crappy Cane's chicken sandwich and a half-slice with BBQ takeout (I gave the other half to the birds in the backyard) is all I've eaten recently.

The rest of the "Downside?" list I pretty much stay away from, except for one or two hard drinks on a formal "date night" to unwind/buzz a bit, usually no more than twice a month.


Originally Posted by Duchess
The reason I've stuck with it, is that it works. If you're a fatass, the fat will disappear. It's not some weight watchers #%&*$#, where you may lose a pound a week or what not. Took me 3 months to drop 50lb. It was more like 65, but people just don't believe me so I just say 50.

When we lost the bulk of our weight in 2008/09, we did it slowly (averaging ~1 lbs./week) because we wanted to minimize any loose skin. We also eat lots of healthy fats (e.g. avocado) and drink lots of water, and of course work out with weights which minimizes and even eliminates loose skin with weight loss.

She has none so far (~10 lbs. to go), but I (lots more to go) may end up with a little on the sides and the bottom of my ass (I was a lot heavier, even percentage-wise). I won't know until I get there.

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/05/16 10:58 PM

Guys, I'm feeling like I'm going on a little too much about this so I'm going to take a breather, become more of a lurker for a while.

It's just that at 48, we (and this is a team effort) being way past our 'expiration date' (see "Logan's Run"...lol) are in a place that we've never been before (treadmills and weights are NOT us, believe me!). We can't go back and fix the past (e.g. feet damage) or even completely make up for it (quality time lost), but we can learn from it, continue to educate ourselves about food and fitness and press forward.

That's the way you have to look at it I think, wherever you are in life and fitness, try to make some small improvements every day and just give it time.
Posted By: VF9_Longbow

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 12:14 AM

MarkG, don't give up. I don't think running is that great an activity because it can hurt the hell out of your legs if you have an injury or if your form is bad. But there are tons of other cardio exercises you can do. Don't quit because of "I'm too old", that's the worst!

Try doing squats, or stair climbing, much lower impact than running. Cycling or a good quality stationary bike is also good.

At the beginning of 2014 I was 83 or 84kg (Around 185lbs, far too heavy for my height) and a BMI of probably around 27 or so. By autumn 2014 I was 60kg with a good BMI, a body fat of around 15% and was dripping with muscle! Now I am a few KG heavier due to not wanting to freeze my arse off in the frigid winter air, but I am sure to keep working out 2-4 times per week and dropping those KG will be quite easy once the weather gets warm enough.

How I lost 23kg in 6 months: I cut carbs. All carbs. No sugar, no alcohol, nothin. Just lots of protein, fats, oils, vegetables (with no carbs). And........exercise! Every day - weight lifting. At first I did a dumbell workout twice per week, then upped to three times per week. After I got used to working out three times a week, I just decided to start doing it every day since I got a rush from doing the workout. If you're not feeling that rush, your workouts are probably not hard enough, or maybe they're too hard.

I lost around 10kg in the first few weeks just from changing my diet. Around 3kg was water weight but the rest was actual fat loss. The remaining 13kg was a combination of diet and exercise.

I was doing 30-60mins of weights per day every day, plus 100 squats every day, or some other form of cardio like 300 jumping jacks, 1hour of jogging, etc. every 2 - 3days.

I also did 3 sets of 33 knee-touch sit ups - lie down, extend your arms, bring your feet in so they're touching the ground but your knees are up. sit up til you can touch your knees with your hands. kind of like a crunch
as well as 3 sets of 33 leg raises - lie down with your hands at your sides, then slowly lift your legs without bending them til your toes point straight up, then lower them again slowly. this really burns your lower abs/"triangle zone", most people can't even do 10 in the beginning - I sure couldn't!

I am not sure losing weight slowly really prevents loose skin, I have lost it quickly AND slowly and either way, skin I built in my fat days is there unless I go the surgery route..

Hard to tell from the photos but check the face from 2013 or 2014 compared to now, much slimmer methinks, and lots of chest muscle going on.

red hair days, around 2013 or 2014. fat face. yuk.


different angle, roughly same time period, late 2013 or early 2014. fat face, fat body, no muscle in the arms.


current (forgive the machete, had just finished clearing some jungle and was rather pumped up about it)


last august

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 02:40 AM

Awesome, VF9_Longbow! cheers I love how international this board is, in general we Americans must seem a little on the larger size to some of you...lol. biggrin Good job man! thumbsup

Not to worry though, I'm not giving up at all. Yes, my very flat feet are permanently damaged by years of gout attacks and heel spurs (I have an x-ray somewhere, nasty looking...when I find it I'll post it) but it's not debilitating. I can run a cushioned treadmill without a problem, I'm just not sure yet if I'll ever be able to complete a 5k run (although *walking* all day on pavement is no problem). I know this, the lighter I am the better my feet feel at the end of the day. smile

No, what I meant to say is that I feel like I might be coming off as being full of myself sometimes (including this post).

Poor health can be a powerful catalyst to getting started, especially when you're scared (as we've both been). My weight loss actually began at 265+ lbs. (120.2 kg) and with some serious dental issues (festering over decades), wife was 140 lbs. (63.5 kg) on a tiny frame. We didn't start recording our weights on that chart until my 41st birthday, when it was clear I might actually succeed this time.

I'm pushing hard now for a makeover (makeup and eye stuff, nothing medical), teeth whitening (we're both recently out of braces), tight jeans and boots, all new wardrobe for both of us (no more shopping in 20+ year-old sweat pants and t-shirts). And sometimes I feel like a foolish old man in doing so, trying to relive his-and-hers youth (but in a better way).

At what point does health cross into vanity? At what age should it no longer matter? I'm not suggesting looks shouldn't matter at all with age, but when you're past your prime and neither of you were ever model material to begin with.

Is it foolish to try and reinvent yourself (and yours) just prior to AARP membership? old_simmer

That's about where I'm at right now and it's uncharted territory, confusing and sometimes gets me into trouble (probably being a little too pushy about it).

Although we were still...growing, this was my wife and I at 35 years old (13 years ago) and then almost 13 years later, the picture we took on Saturday (although I guess I'm kinda cheating standing behind her).



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Posted By: VF9_Longbow

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 02:58 AM

you're never too old for vanity, if you can't have fun and enjoy looking better than the average schmoe what's the point in keeping fit at all? live it up, enjoy looking good and being thinner, and the closer you get to your target weight the better and better you feel about yourself. and people around you will notice your progress too.

just never take a break from your diet and exercise, coz once you get out of the groove, it's hard to get back in (been there)

you're looking good, don't hide behind the wife though :P
Posted By: Duchess

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 01:31 PM

MarkG,

Do what makes you happy! I'm not a terribly vain person, but I've been wearing the same wardrobe since 1995, maybe i should make a change too.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 01:32 PM

If I can get back to my college-era weight (200 lbs) I will be more than happy. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 02:13 PM

Thanks, all.

My wife had gum treatment recently, where they scrape the roof of your mouth for tissue to fill in a couple of receded areas. There are a couple ways of doing this procedure, one takes longer and is more expensive (using donar tissue, IIRC) but supposedly gives a perfect look.

She chose the normal procedure, who's going to be taking hi-res photos of her mouth? Lol. Looks perfect to me anyway, I wouldn't know the difference.

That procedure was necessary, this one is not...

A professional dentist office teeth whitening would require a couple of her front tooth exterior fillings be drilled out and replaced with new fillings at a lighter shade to match the whitening. The alternative is not nearly as white but doesn't require any dental work.

My comment was, "The hell if I would sit in that chair and have something drilled on that wasn't absolutely necessary!" She's not as apprehensive about dental work but agreed, at our age and for who we are, this would be too much.

Those are extremes, I don't want to become obsessive with it, just want to get spiffy'd up with a little bit of style. I can go to a concert or to the mall and know it when I see it (men and women), I (we) just don't know how to go about getting a little of that for us, it's not how we were brought up or how we've ever lived (you've seen the pics smile ).

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The healthy diet and exercise are going to be with us for the rest of our lives, we'd be too afraid to quit now. For the most part, our lifestyle is about putting up the best blood lab numbers we can plus cardiology tests she has done, besides the annual echo is an occasional nuclear dye test.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 02:26 PM

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
If I can get back to my college-era weight (200 lbs) I will be more than happy. smile

I thought I saw a pic of you and you weren't that big at all. Or was that Jedi?
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 04:28 PM

Mark, don't feel foolish. There are a few VERY good looking, well dressed and stylish guys around my usual places closing in on 50. That's not "life is over" territory. Not by coincidence they usually have with them very good looking younger or just slightly younger womenfolk - not that I'm suggesting a swap, mind you wink

Decent wardrobe is not more expensive than bad looking wardrobe, it's more a matter of caring a little. Why take the lesser option for the same price?

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Very happy pig right now myself - third successive day under 80KG on the scale. If I can do a week, no matter what I ate or drank the day before (always measure in the morning) then I officially consider my "diet" over. Oh, and I met a really nice girl yesterday. That might just fit wink
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/06/16 06:52 PM

It's already gotten thrown back at me, "You want *me* to get all styled up, but what about *you*"?! D'oh! I fear when we make a NYC trip later this year that she's going to want to buy me some absurdly expensive shirt like in one of those awful "Sex and the City" episodes! But then, she can be as cheap as I am (also a coupon queen) so maybe not.

Although there is a cool scene with Tom Hanks in "Joe vs. the Volcano" where he drastically changes his image in a single day - but on someone else's credit card! Now *that* would be nice!

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80 kg = 176 lbs., damn RSColonel_131st, you're doing good! thumbsup If you don't mind me asking, what's the waist size?

I've noticed that (as someone else has mentioned) a single bad day can seem to do a lot of damage. However, I believe sometimes it's the abundance of salt that bloats you (water retention), so while it may seem the next day that you gained weight, most of the weight will drop off the day or so after.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/07/16 02:56 PM

There are a lot of younger women into 80's style these days, you know... wink

Size 32 Waist for Jeans. More to the point at 182cm I should be closing in on 15% or less body fat which is really pretty decent for a "home gym and loves burger king" guy. And the wonderful thing is that somehow the 1800kcal daily average isn't even hard to maintain, so I'll drop a bit further still.

Need to come up with additional exercises or bigger weights. I've a free test day at a Gym which seems the logical next step... but I just don't like the environment, driving overhead and time wasted...
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/07/16 03:11 PM

Heh, 32 waist. I haven't been that size since junior high school. biggrin
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/07/16 03:28 PM

What, you slimmed down since? wink

I wish we had better weather all year round, like you Floridians. I dropped an entire belt hole after one month of Malta. Being able to be outside all year and do stuff would greatly enhance my options... and no, Skiing doesn't count, it's cold, wet and overpriced.
Posted By: VF9_Longbow

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/07/16 03:45 PM

I recently hit 28in waist and it feels pretty cool after years of being over 36, 38. I have some pants from when I was 22 years old that I can now nearly fit my whole body into one leg of the pants!!

MarkG, one day of eating junk doesn't do much damage. The majority of the difference you see is caused by salt and water, if you eat salty food after a period of no salt or low-salt foods, you'll see a big spike in your weight like up to 5-10lbs in a single day. But it's nonsense, if you cut the salt again it'll go back to your true weight after a few days.

In 2014 I did some pretty hardcore experiments to find out exactly how my own body was working, and to test my survival limits. I actually stopped eating and drinking anything but water for a period of 1 month - yes no food for a month, no you won't starve but it is pretty uncomfortable at the start.

Dropped a lot of weight as can be expected, around 10KG (25lbs?) or so, weight loss was fast especially at the start, but by the 2nd week the weight loss trickled off to be almost negligible. After the month long fast, I started re-introducing certain foods into my diet. Initially I ate a lot of oranges, a few leafy greens etc. In small quantities. Gradually worked my way back up to healthy sized portions of healthy foods.

The first day I tried a package of onion soup after the month-long fast, my weight skyrocketed by 3kg. I didn't even eat 3kg worth of soup! I drank 1 small cup of soup. But I was drinking 3L of water every day. It was just the water retained because of the salt in the soup mix.

Some interesting things I learned about my body thanks to hardcore fasting:
How much food do I actually need to eat to stay alive at a stable weight - surprisingly little.
How much food do I need to eat before it becomes wasteful (Kind of gross but enlightening at the same time. What your waste is like is a really good indicator of whether or not you are eating healthily for YOUR body)
How do certain foods affect digestion, energy levels, clarity of thinking, etc. I found that Oranges were like a miracle food, a single orange could keep me going for a day with perfect clarity of mind - this is the sugar content. Drinking sugar water will give the same mind clarity but dissipates quickly and lacks the other nutrients of oranges.
I learned the body really seems to know what it needs. While fasting I frequently had cravings for fish and liver, two foods I normally never eat because I don't like them much. (I eat fish often now, liver is too much for me though)
I quickly discovered that exercise plays a far smaller role in weight loss than diet does, but exercise is important in order to raise your base metabolism level and build muscle. I quickly realized though, that it is far easier to just not eat something than to try and burn it off with exercise. 350kcal is like eating 2 slices of thin white bread, or a single chocolate bar, but will take nearly an hour of fast jogging to burn off.
I learned if you MUST eat something, make it a protein item and then exercise shortly afterwords. The body will convert it into muscle, and you'll burn the calories off during the exercise - double bonus.

Finally, I realized that the "Daily Average Caloric intake" requirement for men that is widely published on the internet, something like 2200-3000kcal per day is UTTER NONSENSE for a huge segment of the population. If you work in an office and are not exercising, and you take a car to work, you probably need less than 1500kcal per day to maintain your current weight. If you're a really tall guy or if you have lots of muscle, you may need more, and of course if you're moving a lot, working in construction or something, then of course you need many more calories. But for the average American office worker, NO - 1500-1700 is a pretty reasonable target (Try it and see how your weight goes, if you lose weight add more food per day). So keep this in mind when eating. You don't need to be a calorie counter, just get a rough idea of how many kcals are in various types of food and roughly add them up each day in your head to see where you're at. If you are over on any given day, try to lower your caloric intake on following days. One day means nothing, but a week of lower caloric intake even if only 100kcal per day adds up to 700kcal, 3 weeks is 2100kcal etc. which results in a very easy to monitor reduction in body weight, and if you're eating lots of protein and exercising, a reduction in body fat and increase of muscle.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/07/16 04:31 PM

Very good post Longbow. I think the 1500kcal are on the low side, but okay I have more muscle than average. I fully agree that the 2200avg for a guy are crazy for most of us who have sitting jobs.

On the subject of kcal counting, it's really as simple as you say. I carry a sheet of paper in my everyday bag and put down the simplified numbers. For example for a kepab I assume 600kcal, write down 6. Everything gets rounded up or down to nearest hundreds. So today I literary have on the sheet a line saying "07.01. 4+13+1+4" which is breakfast, fast food at lunch and a small sweet in the afternoon. Topping it off with some nachos at the theatre today (Star Wars). Not healthy, but "only" 2200kcal, yesterday I ran low at 1400, tomorrow I'll have maybe 1600 tops. I tend to eat more at work (mostly for being bored) and less during weekends.

In the end a bit of simplified counting easily reminds you that you can have decent fatty enjoyable meals every now and then, but to compromise some other days. Problems start when you go for the nice sugar-loaded breakfast AND the burger at noon AND the chips in front of the TV on the same day, every day.

Also agree on the point made (it's an argument I keep having with a workmate) that you can't beat diet with exercise. Unless you're working up to an Ironman Triathlon or spend 10 hours a week in the gym with a busy program you will NOT burn enough excess to have 2200 or 2500 daily.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/07/16 04:51 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
There are a lot of younger women into 80's style these days, you know... wink

I don't know why I get so wordy when I don't need to be.

Bottom line is that I'm as crazy in love with this woman (5 weeks my junior smile ) as I was the first time I expressed these feelings in a high school hallway. Call it the right chemistry, the passion may have waned over the years but it's back full force (I think of it as a mid-life reboot), I'm not going anywhere!

So any hypotheticals would be is if she left me and I had to start over. wink


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Size 32 Waist for Jeans. More to the point at 182cm I should be closing in on 15% or less body fat which is really pretty decent for a "home gym and loves burger king" guy. And the wonderful thing is that somehow the 1800kcal daily average isn't even hard to maintain, so I'll drop a bit further still.

Need to come up with additional exercises or bigger weights. I've a free test day at a Gym which seems the logical next step... but I just don't like the environment, driving overhead and time wasted...

We did a local gym for a year (Anytime Fitness - open 24 hrs.), usually early morning before anyone else showed up. It was just too inconvenient, about a 30 min. drive each way. In Jax, FL we had plenty of sidewalks and a really nice park with paved walking paths about 1/2 mile away, so all we needed was a cheap weight set/bench.

Treadmills are expensive (ours was on sale for $1,000, IIRC), for a new home gym (bench and free weights incl. separate dumb bells) I'm looking at $300.00 - $400.00. We may have to wait until we have more space for it though, my $100.00 ($150.00 w/extras) starter set will still do for a while.

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What I meant to say earlier is that treadmills and weights are not us, in that we were never athletic types...ever! We never use to exercise and eat healthy like we do today, quite the opposite. Everything we do now we started at 40 (incl. her yoga classes), and we're still learning how and what to do and eat. It's only been in the past year or so that we've *really* become consistent with it (especially with exercise), I think we finally have it down.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/07/16 05:14 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Very good post Longbow.

I agree, Longbow posted a lot of good information to...digest. smile

I did some weird stuff with fasting and grapes (IIRC) in my 20s to try to lose weight, but it never lasted. I had given up by my 30s, and at 35 my weight started skyrocketing (as did my wife's).

The problem was that my wife and I were always eating out, if not fast food drive-thru (usually Wendy's or Taco Bell right by the house) it would be something like a fried seafood platter for two at St. John's Seafood (Jax, FL). She never matched my eating in absolute quantity but in percentage to body size, I think she ate more than I did (and still does)! I just didn't have the metabolism to burn it off, and for decades she saw it as *my* problem, and not *our* problem.

It was my problem, but how do change when your partner is not willing to? Yeah, you get the fried shrimp w/ hushpuppies and fries and wash it down with a Coke, I'll just have a shrimp salad and water. Lol.

Fortunately, nuclear-stroked metabolisms don't last forever and now we fight the same battles. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/07/16 11:59 PM

I wanted to add one more story to this thread because it's most motivational to me. The reason is because it's not about a younger person or a middle-age man still dripping with testosterone. It's about a little old lady that seemed like a hopeless case.

My late mother-in-law fell under her carport and broke her hip, the evening of the opening day of Apollo 13 (I believe the only movie I've seen on opening day, we received the call that evening after the movie). A few years later she had breast cancer and then parathyroid surgery.

Now Lois was always a heavy-set woman, I'm guessing about the same height as my wife (5'-4.5" [163.8 cm]) and at times probably weighed around 230 lbs. (104 kg). She had yo-yo'd most of her life (never thin) and was gaining when she moved in with us in 2008 (she was 68 - born 1940), right about the time we were changing our lifestyle.

The complete weight chart is shown below, with her and my brother included (he'd call in every Sunday from Atlanta.

And remember, the weight-loss began at least a few months before we started charting it, so I don't know what my mother-in-law started at (I know she had lost already as we had).

From the chart, in a year's time she lost 28 lbs. (12.7 kg) and all she did was eat like we were eating and going to the park with us everyday to walk (just going with the flow - bless my wife for staying behind with her at a much slower pace, especially in the first few months).

She went from barely being able to walk short distances (her driveway) to taking off on us sometimes after we parked and were stretching. So it wasn't just the weight loss, it was the energy she was gaining, someone who I thought was doomed (also with bad knees) was getting a quality of life again.

All I'm saying is that if *she* could do it...

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Include are a couple more pics, another "fat" cruise and then after the effort (last cruise we took my mother-in-law on, 2009)...

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/08/16 08:38 AM

Great Story Mark. Yep, you're never too old. I had a friend at 59 who was preparing to single-hand (or with a possible new GF because he was meeting women all the time) sail the world on his 27 foot sailing yacht. That guy was fitter then I back then, much fitter.


Okay, since some people been posting pictures... that's me in late June, after my month of outdoor Malta vacation. I've since dropped another 3 kg or such, but need a more recent pic...




I had the good fortune to never be fat, but I admit that during my last long relationship we both "grew" quite a bit, starting with an US Vacation in 2008 that brought easy 3kg plus. Once I was past the magic Eighty it gets easier to not care because the difference between 80 and 83 just doesn't strike you as badly. There came a point when I really couldn't fit anymore in the leather biker pants I had gotten when I was 15, so that was noticeable. They fit great again today.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/08/16 03:19 PM

RSColonel_131st, you stud you! biggrin Yeah, being in a relationship can help (or hurt) for sure, when you're both on the same page. I've never been as driven in life as my better half, so I try to feed off of that motivation (it's always been this way).

Yup, clothes are the biggest indicator of where you are, IMO. We have closet and attic containers full of clothes from years ago, all the way back to high school (either nicer stuff we couldn't part with or knowing they would one day be future milestone clothes).

One of mine from 1987...

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Posted By: VF9_Longbow

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/08/16 03:22 PM

Nothing like being able to fit in the tiny clothing you used to wear. Really feels great!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/08/16 03:55 PM

Yeah, I'm glad I saved so many of mine, it was fun going through them (past tense since I haven't caught up yet where I left off in '09). Wife is glad too even if she didn't know it until she cleaned out her mom's house (like me a serious hoarder, although a very neat hoarder).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/21/16 06:16 PM

So far this year I've stagnated, still have remains of a stubborn head cold (coughs and sniffles).

We missed the 5k last weekend, the next one is in April I believe. I still should have lost some weight this year but I did something stupid at Costco, I bought a large bag of dried fruit, thinking I would mix a little in with my daily nuts. Nah, it's waaay too addictive and a 3 lbs. 8 ounce (1.58 kg) bag contains 7,280 calories / 884 carbs / 624 sugars! So no more of that but man is it good!

I'm considering purchasing the Costco dumbbells set, the price isn't bad at all compared with Academy...
Cap 200 lbs. Dumbbell Set With Rack

I can always upgrade to the next size weight or two when (if) I progress further, but for now this is all I need. I'm also shopping for a speed bag for my father, if I get good at it I'll post a short video.

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Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/21/16 06:46 PM

That actually looks darn tasty!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/21/16 07:00 PM

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
That actually looks darn tasty!

Yeah, TOO tasty! I have willpower for most food, but this is a snack I just can't get enough of! Bought the bag just last Friday and it's almost gone (although wife and mom did some extra dipping too).
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/22/16 06:00 AM

Snacks will get you every time.


Wheels
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/23/16 03:59 PM

Dried fruits seem like a clever idea until you realize the same stuff is used by Special Forces in cold climates or other places where they need up to 4000kcal a day...

How's everyone doing? Have to skip training this week because of a headcold, but very steady below 80kg (as far down as 77, in fact).

Interesting thing is: Even if I have days with a large kcal allowance I'm not even so addicted to fatty food anymore. It's like my body really reprogrammed itself.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/24/16 05:21 PM

Yay, 16% Bodyfat measured today. For your reference, the average 20-yo has 18%, and my age group normally 20% or more...
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/01/16 05:28 AM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Dried fruits seem like a clever idea until you realize the same stuff is used by Special Forces in cold climates or other places where they need up to 4000kcal a day...

How's everyone doing? Have to skip training this week because of a headcold, but very steady below 80kg (as far down as 77, in fact).

Interesting thing is: Even if I have days with a large kcal allowance I'm not even so addicted to fatty food anymore. It's like my body really reprogrammed itself.


Yes, it's fine every now and then, but don't over do it. Really, meat and veggies until you can get to your desired body fat, then you can splurge here and there.
Posted By: VF9_Longbow

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/01/16 05:50 AM

Agree.

Fruit are miracle foods. But they have a major drawback, they are not filling for the amount of calories you get from them. You end up going way over your daily calorie target from a very small portion of food, then end up eating more food later on because you're still hungry.

Only do dried fruit when you're going to exercise the same day, or when you haven't eaten anything all day and it's evening now.

BTW most dried fruits are coated in extra sugar and other stuff, salt, etc. If possible, make your own dried fruits rather than buying them prepackaged. The caloric difference is significant, i.e. processing may add 1000 calories to a single apple through extra sugar.


Green leafy vegetables and meat will keep you really healthy. Ease off on the pasta, bread and starches when you want to lose weight, add them back in once you want to maintain your weight. Beans of all kinds and nuts are fantastic sources of protein and fats, use them as meat replacement in your meals occasionally.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/01/16 06:11 AM

https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/03/13...singlepage=true

I love deadlifts and squats....
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/02/16 08:56 PM

So all, fess up, how are you doing in the new year?

I'm comfordably below my 80kg mark, in fact the lowest I saw recently was 77.1. I haven't seen a 76.x on the scale since almost ten years ago, and I definitly didn't have the muscles back then that I have now (so I'm already way better than I ever was).

Diet is a mix of junk food and healthy stuff, about half/half during the week, but all in moderation. Chocolate will still get me, Burgers, Pizzas and such are rather not such a big deal anymore (i.e. the craving is very manageable...). Stir Fry and Steaks for the win.

I really ought to get rid of the white bread but damn would be sooo harsh to endure...

Training plan as of yet unchanged, but I'm doing them faster - trying to hit harder in a shorter time.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/06/16 08:12 PM

Good going, RSColonel_131st. thumbsup

I've been slacking off completely, I stopped working out a few weeks ago with a head cold and haven't started back yet. Apparently I'm also a nervous eater, not measuring out the nuts, etc., too much cheese and crackers while eating out too often lately.

Thought we'd get back to it today but I don't think the Mrs. is going to wake until tomorrow, so I'm going to enjoy a little more crappy eating through the Super Bowl, then pick it back up on Monday with a vengeance.

Next 5K is on Mar. 5 (at LSU for breast cancer), one we usually walk but I'm shooting to run it this year (missed the one in Jan.), so I at least have a cardio goal to work for.

February is going to be a catch-up month for me.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/06/16 08:41 PM

How' Misses G?

Remember, Superbowl calories don't count if your team wins. wink
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/07/16 02:45 AM

She's doing fine, still catching up on sleep (a Pia Colada should help - it will for me).

Same with a Diet Dr. Pepper, the negative calories offset the food calories. But I'm not getting a 2L of Diet and I have no favorite in the game, so tomorrow I'll be packing on some weight. That's ok, come Monday morning it's back to the better lifestyle (with a little less of the sauce, I'm going over my twice-a-month drinking right now, none of it heavy though).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/08/16 05:23 AM

Here's something I never thought I'd be saying on this thread...

As of tonight I'm once again technically obese (5'-9" 204.2 lbs. [92.6 kg]). frown

Right now I feel like an over-stuffed fried oyster! I bet I ingested over 4,000mg of sodium with dinner tonight (pics on the "What are you eating for Super Bowl 50?" thread). I'm so thirsty that I keep going back for more Dr. Pepper (when I know I should be drinking water).

It's going to take a couple of months to undo the damage I've done in just the last two and a half weeks! eek

LOL. biggrin - I'm not upset about it, it just happened, I'm still a happy dude!

No better time to get back into it than a Monday morning. It's 11:22 PM and I'm off to the kitchen to finish draining the 2L, eat my last fried shrimp and couple of crayfish, and wake up tomorrow morning to a fresh start. Man, that first workout is going to hurt, it's been a while.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/10/16 05:00 PM

Back on track, baby! thumbsup

I have a digital scale and I hate, I mean I HATE it when that first number is a "2"!

I heard the treadmill running this morning while cooking breakfast, first time in weeks, made my heart very happy. smile Right now I'm hurting a little, Monday was my first workout in weeks, kinda rough on this old man.

I wish I could do another vodka test right about now. Can't though, parents driving in and their stay always begins with a drive to the Home Depot.

But in general...

Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/09/16 01:39 AM

So literally 3 weeks after I was okayed to run, I ran 4 miles at a 9:20 pace. It sucked, I'm limping, but I did it. This is 9 months after a total rebuild with 4 bolts that is like NFL player recovery time.

I'll recover and be fine tomorrow, but I won't run. I run T-Th-S, I promised my doctor to not go beyond that.

Lifting:

-I deadlift 305 (about 140kg) and then do 5 RDLs.
-My overhead press is 155 and I can do that 2-3 times depending on how I feel.
-Squat is 255 (115kg) once.

I can do 11 pull ups (which is the SFAS gate requirement).

I've got to drop about 3 minutes on my run time over the next 3 months or so.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/09/16 08:24 AM

That's going faster than expected, congrats. Are you back on active duty?
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/10/16 05:09 AM

Sound great.
Good luck with the rest of your rehab Timothy.


Wheels
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/10/16 06:08 AM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
That's going faster than expected, congrats. Are you back on active duty?


I never left active duty. I'm still not able to go on jump status. The biggest issue is that they are having to force to me to NOT be as active as I want to be.

I wasn't allowed to do the GAFB. I was really disappointed, I'm sure I could have pushed through the pain and got at least a Silver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Armed_Forces_Badge_for_Military_Proficiency

So at the end of summer, when they run it again, I'll go get the gold badge.

I'm hoping to get back on jump status at month 12, but may be forced to wait till month 16.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/16 12:11 PM

Sorry Tim, didn't see your reply until I dug out this thread right now. Your dedication to doing what you love doing is awesome!

I finally got a new "show off" picture made with the help of a friend of mine. That's how I currently look at 182cm/78kg/15% Body Fat.

Not bad for someone who loves Fast Food and doesn't really skip meals, if I may say so myself.

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/16 02:52 PM

Nice pic, RSColonel_131st! thumbsup

Glad I never had nice hair, there was no crying about it when I lost it. biggrin

I'll update my pic at some point. My last one that mom took (standing behind my wife in the PC corner of my man cave) is awful, wife was exhausted from year-end closing (also not dolled up at all) and I was hiding (although not on purpose, that was my concert pose).

Maybe when I see my brother again (his wife is an amateur photographer). In fact, there's a couple of old Polaroids I want to retake for a before-and-after (comparing age 18 vs. 50...lol).

Including my only pre-40s shirtless pic.

I forget how old you are RSColonel_131st, I get inspiration from watching early Roger Moore James Bonds, when he was in his late 40's. smile

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Posted By: Dart

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/16 04:50 PM

Well, it finally happened this year - my Magical Metabolism wore off. Most of my life I've had to try and keep weight on rather than the other way around, but suddenly it's the other way.

Part of it is that in my last job I walked around quite a bit, and now that I'm retired I don't. Within about four months my pants got tight and then some of them didn't fit. Unacceptable. Many of them are only ten or fifteen years old and are still serviceable, and I have a "hot wife" to keep interested.

So it's portion control and the smoking trick. I ask myself if I'm eating something because A) I need the food, B) I want the food, or C) just to eat something. If it's C) I don't eat. If it's B) I limit the amount. The big thing is my favorite food vice, potato chips. Though it's more expensive, I got the single serving bags of chips and limit myself to one per day after an eight week ban.

Two months on and the pant selection is widening as I stopped doing so. Small gains and a touch of vanity can do wonders.

I figure my "new normal" weight is probably between 160 and 170, quite a bit more than the 140 I carried for forty years of my life.

The pernicious thing about my weight gain is that the fat grew under the abs, so I had my typical six pack being pushed forward. Weird.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/16 04:57 PM

I think this website should be renamed to "SimGQ". wink
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/16 04:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Dart

I figure my "new normal" weight is probably between 160 and 170,


I would be a stickman if I weighed 170. I'd look a lot like a young Jeff Goldblum. biggrin
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/16 05:36 PM

Remember Dart, you want to stay in Weight and Balance if the plane... wink
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/16 05:44 PM

Oh yeah Dart, ya *needs* to have a touch of vanity! wink

It may start off as just wanting to be healthy, but once you reach the majority of your health goals, you need fresh and exciting reasons to keep it up.

An example of vanity: I have a dermatology appointment this afternoon and I'm not too thrilled that I'm about to be closely examined by women while still being so far from my goal. I really don't care about needles and razors...pfft...if it doesn't look right, cut or shave if off.

No, it's the necessary rivet counting of my body that I'm not comfortable with right now, at least not until I'm at least comfortable enough to go shirtless in public. And that's going to be a while yet.

Now *that's* vanity! biggrin
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/25/16 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Sorry Tim, didn't see your reply until I dug out this thread right now. Your dedication to doing what you love doing is awesome!

I finally got a new "show off" picture made with the help of a friend of mine. That's how I currently look at 182cm/78kg/15% Body Fat.

Not bad for someone who loves Fast Food and doesn't really skip meals, if I may say so myself.




Nice! Fast Food is ok, but choose wisely. In the States McDonald's has the Artisan Grilled Chicken Sandwich. It's about 370 calories with 20g of protein. Just skip the fries and soda.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/11/16 02:53 PM

So, time to bring up this thread again.

Been slacking a little the last weeks (chocolate easter bunnies, family gatherings etc.) and find myself slipping perilously close to the 80kg mark. So, one or two weeks at a strict 1600kcal average are in order...

On the training side of things, if the weather keeps improving, then it's time to move the cardio outside. Gonna take my pedal-scooter along the danube for a few kilometers after work, a nice change from the Crosstrainer at home.

Oh, and as i did my situps yesterday, on the living room couch, the belt holding my ankles finally snapped. Almost toppled back over- yeah, dangerous sports really.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/11/16 05:58 PM

Nice going, RSColonel_131st. Could be an age thing, but I find I don't have it in me anymore to make up slacking and splurges, I just go back to normal and wait out the damage.

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Reporting in...

The weather here in the Deep South, USA has also been really nice the past couple of weeks.

Wife ran (mostly) a 5K on the 2nd (for epilepsy, with a high school friend who suffers from it), it was a "girls day out" so I wasn't invited. They're going to start meeting up for yoga once a week.

We ran (*I* mostly walked) the local hospital path on Sat. (very nice with lots of shading from old live oaks), and we've been hitting the walking path just a few minutes from the house almost every evening now that it gets darker later. I'm not comparing our treadmill times right now, I've fallen too far behind.

Digital scale broke (or dead battery) and I haven't bothered replacing it yet, but I figure I'm losing slowly by the way my pants feel (loose 38", about to pull out the 36s from the attic). My best so far as an adult was a comfortable 34" (first pic on "Face with a Name" thread) when I matched my age 20 weight back in 2009, but I never progressed further.

Once I reach that milestone again I'm going to go back to tracking our progress on a weekly spreadsheet, but this time including body fat percentage and body measurements. Note: Not a touchy subject at all with the Mrs. (I asked), it's just statistics.

So now I'm on cruise control but I can tell it's getting better, maybe I'll pick up a new scale the next time I'm at Costco.
Posted By: Brun

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/11/16 10:46 PM

Feeling relatively good at the moment. Managing to average almost 300W over a very full-on 20 min turbo trainer session. That's a pretty decent engine on a chassis that only weighs 70kg. smile

Not a bad state to be in a few months short of 41 years old.
Posted By: Legend

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/12/16 02:58 AM

Recently diagnosed with Type II diabetes - which came as a total shock to me: I'm 1.90 at 84 kg, giving me a healthy BMI of 23.3. On the other hand, I hardly ever do any sports / movement (except bedroom fitness), and love to eat well (I did learn long time ago to keep the portions relatively small though).
Fortunately it was still in the very early stages - blood sugar level before breakfast was around 7.5 (according to the Dutch guidelines, it should be below 6.0 at that time, and between 6.1 and 6.9 is considered a pre-stage of Diabetes).

Since then I've started paying more attention to my food - more food fibres (difficult in China where most bread is milk white bread and by default rice is the white, instead of the brown variety), more vegetables and less meat; eating a handful of nuts every day and moving more - as I absolutely hate going to the gym, I opted for a brisk walk after dinner. The step counter I use (a Mi band) now shows that I walk over 8,000 steps on average (around 1.5 hours of walking) - before, this was only somewhere between 4- and 5,000 steps.

So far it's not as difficult as I had expected. Let's hope it's enough to keep the Diabetes in check.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/13/16 02:49 PM

Sorry to hear that Legend, although it's good that you caught it early.

Wife and I have a history of diabetes in our families. Her obese family members have either almost died in their 40's of the disease (including her brother) or didn't make it past their 50's. My father is diabetic (takes low dose of Metformin) in his 70's but like yourself, isn't overweight. Neither was my diabetic grandmother, who made ice tea resembling syrup. Both had a very sugar-laden diet though, today my father is careful with what he eats.

We do our best to lay low on the sugar, switching from dried fruit (Costco) to dried vegetables at farmers' markets.

That's a half bag (other half already eaten) and it's kind of expensive, a good reason to practice moderation. smile

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/13/16 02:56 PM

As has been mentioned before, you can take almost any vegetable and roast it in the oven with olive oil and black pepper for an awesome snack.

I never liked cabbage unless in a fried eggroll, but this way is really good (especially the crunchy parts)!

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 04:50 AM

Quick update, because I'm too freggin' tired for anything else! smile

August (just prior to my 49th BD, wife's 5 weeks later), staying six days/five nights in Times Square (Casablanca Hotel). Will conquer Manhattan, from top of Central Park to bottom of Financial District (most southern point) and all points in-between (that's relatively safe) completely on foot, no taxis nor subway (only airport shuttle to and from Newark airport to near hotel).

We're training now at ~20,000 steps/day since Sat. (only 12,000 today due to weather, but not counting 3 miles (4.83 km) on treadmill tonight).

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Took body measurements this morning using a sewing tape measure...

Me: 39.25" (99.7 cm) waist (disappointed, not sure how I'm going from 38" (96.5 cm) to 36" (91.4 cm) clothes right now confused ).
Ah well, still shooting for 32" (81.3 cm).

Wife: 31" (78.7 cm) x 27" (68.6 cm) x 37" (94 cm)
Shooting for 30" (76.2 cm) x 25" (63.5 cm) x 36" (91.4 cm) (prediction based on current progress and past history).

Sorry that I'm not converting measurements to cm (maybe tomorrow), I gots to get some sleep now, 'night everyone. sleepy
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 06:07 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEWl3P7H3IT/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEWmQ1gH3JI/
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 08:35 AM

How many of those? Make me envious wink
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 09:06 AM

Time to join in here guys.

I'm over-weight and have been for a long long time.At 56 it's not easy to get weight off and keep it off.So many failed attempts.

I was almost 120kg 3 months ago but this week have got down to 113kg and this time I'm not stopping.I had blood tests last week to check for diabetes and cholesterol.Blood sugar levels were spot on but cholesterol was a little high.Nurse says I should be 85kgs but I just don't see that as achievable.I'm 6ft btw.

Changing long-established poor eating habits has been hard. I would kill for fish and chips right now and it's only 10 am.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 01:01 PM

What Timothy is doing is really hard, I recently tried doing this myself. There's a new park we go to (30�39'00.32" N 91�11'52.10" W) with very nice walking/running paths. In the middle (which currently shows dirt on Google Earth - 8/15) they built a children's activity playground and next to it an outdoor adult fitness area including all kinds of exercise bars. Tried doing pull-ups/chin-ups, could barely do two. frown

Too much weight with inconsistent workouts.

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Chucky, I feel your pain, man. I'm kicking my own ass right now for slipping up and undoing at least half of my efforts when I was 41, at 48 it seems to be even harder and with slower results.

I still dream about the last crap meal we ate, during the Superbowl back in Feb., some of it didn't make the second pic (everything you see is from a single seafood platter, BTW)!

It took forever to quench my thirst from all the sodium! We haven't been bad since but damn those cravings hit me hard! smile

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Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 01:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
I would kill for fish and chips right now and it's only 10 am.


Is there a a low fat/low calorie version of fish & chips available? biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 01:31 PM

Recently found another "before pic" back from 2007 that I don't believe I ever posted. It was right around this time my wife learned that she had a real cholesterol problem (part genetics, part lifestyle).

EDIT: Two more, where we never want to be again. If only *I* could hide it with a girdle! wink

Yeah, I need more current *after pics", working harder than ever on that right now, it's not raining and we're off to the track!

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 01:53 PM

Chucky,

Don't give up, there are plenty people who turned around their health at your age.

What certainly will help you is to find a bunch of lower cal "snacks" to substitute for whatever causes your normal cravings.

Personally I managed best when alternating more lenient days with very harsh diet days. I.e half my normal daily intake with three quarters of my normal intake.

Also, increase your movement ever which way you can. For example a friend of mine started walking everything that was within three subway stations.

Do you have an estimate on what is your daily kcal need and what is your actual intake? Do you have a diet plan?
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 02:02 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
How many of those? Make me envious wink


Twelve. No one in the "competition" was above ten (Yea, that is my bag. No, no one else did it with a bag). I could have eked out one more, but I had made my point.

What was funny, was they gave me a USAF t-shirt (which I passed on) and asked if I wanted to go be a JTAC or PJ. I laughed and told them, I'm already a paratrooper and trying to rehab my knee to go to SFAS.

You can do it, just start with one, then two, and so forth. You have to do them throughout the day. You can't do 3 sets at the gym and call it. You have to literally go do a set every 2 waking hours or so. Sometimes you need to use a band to aid you, but be consistent. It's actually a pretty impressive feat when the trash talk starts.

Also, pull with your shoulders and back and not your forearms. The arms are weak, but the shoulders are stronger and can help you get it knocked out without burning out.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 02:30 PM

I don't really have a diet plan as such.I've cut out the crap that I used to eat on a daily basis and have stopped snacking between meals.I've cut out white bread,crisps and biscuits as far as possible.I include more fruit,salad,veg and fish in my diet now.I'm not a big meat-eater.

I walk just about every day,weather permitting and will get the push-bike out soon.

I don't do gyms but looking on Youtube there are plenty of things I can do at home for exercise.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 02:45 PM

LOL Tim, maybe time to change services?

Chucky, if you have the space and cash get an indoor trainer (bicycle or crosstrainer). It helps a lot to do cardio while watching TV, I even did it while playing games (with a wireless controller).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/21/16 05:13 PM

I keep tubs of cottage cheese in the fridge, whenever I feel the munchies I scoop a single tablespoon (depending where I'm at with my daily amount of nuts).

If I'm feeling *really* hungry between meals, I'll eat a banana and a spoon of Costco peanut butter (Ingredients: Dry Roasted Organic Peanuts and Sea Salt).

I'm open to trying new things (I even enjoy oven roasted Brussel Sprouts, whoda thunk it?) and I try to choose quality over quantity (sometimes the high price of quality encourages you to ration).

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And of course, find your motivation! I really don't enjoy exerting myself for the sake of just being healthy, I really dislike jogging and even walking long distances for the sake of walking. I use music, the kind that almost forces me to move.

Also, I think of the good things going on in my life today, what I may have experienced waking up or before calling it a night, or when we spontaneously combust mid-afternoon (cue Starland Vocal Band). smile

Or I might go way back and stir jealous emotions I still remember (the dark side is powerful and makes you strong. smile ). I rarely bring it up in real life, except maybe when we're walking past that dormitory on campus and I might cut a joke (and it turned out to be nothing but a single date short makeout kiss anyway while we were broken up [pre-engagement]), but it's all I have/need to push myself past that occasional difficult hurdle.

Remember the video of that guy hitting the gym after a breakup, playing Metal in his ears and pushing himself? Sometimes you have to get pissed (within reason) and fire yourself up! Find whatever gives you that passionate burning motivation (if you're the type like myself that needs it).
Posted By: Razorback

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/22/16 09:15 PM

Back in 2011 I had spiraled out of control and peaked near 600lbs.

Today I weigh 240lbs.

I did it the old fashioned way. Less calories. More exercise.

It can be done. You don't have to resort to magic.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/22/16 09:23 PM

I'm spot on for weight. But I have been a bit lax about keeping fit. Only doing a bit of walking and that had dropped down from around 500 km per month to barely 100.
I eat based on appetite, so that didn't make much change there ~ a steady 54-55kg (roughly 120lb)... but I'm not getting any younger and lost fitness gets harder to build back up as you get older (apparently).

So. I've just taken up a class of HEMA - initially Meyer's German Longsword, with Rapier, Messer/Dusack and Staff, plus some sword and buckler from other sources further down the line. It's been great fun, if a little bruising so far, and I have my own longsword to practice with (only a synthetic weapon at the moment, but a steel Feder is on the cards in the future once I have adequate protective gear to spar with steel).
Posted By: Razorback

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/22/16 09:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Lieste
I'm spot on for weight. But I have been a bit lax about keeping fit. Only doing a bit of walking and that had dropped down from around 500 km per month to barely 100.
I eat based on appetite, so that didn't make much change there ~ a steady 54-55kg (roughly 120lb)... but I'm not getting any younger and lost fitness gets harder to build back up as you get older (apparently).


I've had to stop working out a few times due to injuries and that first week back is HARD. So I tend to start slow... like 10 minutes on Monday. 15 on Tuesday. 20 on Wednesday etc. Until I'm up to 90 minutes of whatever. Then stick with that. I learned the hard way to not go from nothing to 100. Not a good idea.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/22/16 10:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Razorback
Originally Posted By: Lieste
I'm spot on for weight. But I have been a bit lax about keeping fit. Only doing a bit of walking and that had dropped down from around 500 km per month to barely 100.
I eat based on appetite, so that didn't make much change there ~ a steady 54-55kg (roughly 120lb)... but I'm not getting any younger and lost fitness gets harder to build back up as you get older (apparently).


I've had to stop working out a few times due to injuries and that first week back is HARD. So I tend to start slow... like 10 minutes on Monday. 15 on Tuesday. 20 on Wednesday etc. Until I'm up to 90 minutes of whatever. Then stick with that. I learned the hard way to not go from nothing to 100. Not a good idea.


I'm still fit. I walk briskly and hills are an excuse to raise the heart rate, not to slow down. (Over a long walk (say 20-50km) I'd manage to average 6.5-7km/h (including brief halts), over a mix of lanes, footpaths and open access land - and with around 1500m of ascent). I've done a mix of short brisk 'going somewhere' walks, and a few of these 'going somewhere the long way around' ones... just not as many. I'd just lost that defined muscle tone that I was always used to having (from decades of cycling).

The being bruising comes almost exclusively by being struck by fast moving synthetic swords during sparring, including slightly scarily taking part in the "prize fight" for one of the 18 month students who was passing his Scholar grade. I have a small collection of quite vivid bruises, which I managed to avoid adding to at the last session
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Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/22/16 10:20 PM

This is the steel kit I am aiming for...


And a video from the sister club to the one I go to, with the synthetic swords shown.


They are blunt, flexible and light (770g), but still pack a wallop (some protection is essential - mask, elbow guards and gloves a must, knee protection very advisable).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/23/16 04:34 AM

And the winner of The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread is...

Originally Posted By: Razorback
Back in 2011 I had spiraled out of control and peaked near 600lbs.

Today I weigh 240lbs.

I did it the old fashioned way. Less calories. More exercise.

It can be done. You don't have to resort to magic.


notworthy notworthy notworthy

Just effing...WOW (and I seldom swear in real life)!

cheers

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However, it may not be magic but I would think that level of weight loss was *very* hard to accomplish!

Here's how I understand it works (and if I'm mistaken, I invite anyone to correct me)...

There are two times in your life when your body creates fat cells naturally, as an infant and around puberty (est. age 9 - 13). By age 16 you already have all the fat cells you're ever going to have as an adult, after this age if you become overweight you're only enlarging your fat cells, which can enlarge up to 6X normal size.

If you become severely overweight after this time, your fat cells get maxed and start to divide to form new fat cells. You can never get rid of all the extra fat cells, you can only shrink them. Even as each cell dies after ~5 years, it's replaced by a new one, all of them are.

The good news is that you can shrink a fat cell to almost nothing, allowing you to slim down even with all the extra fat cells. The bad news is that a shrunken fat cell keeps signaling the brain to "feed" it (the more the shrinkage, the stronger the signal), causing a stronger than normal appetite. So as I understand it, it's much harder to maintain a huge weight loss then it is for a similarly sized person (with less fat cells) to not gain weight. It's a battle you fight for the rest of your life, and a reason they advise against childhood obesity while the body is still naturally creating new fat cells as they'll have too many as an adult.

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I started becoming overweight at around age 16 (taking on my wife's eating habits, except that I'm no ectomorph). I was use to relatively healthy cooking and mom never allowed soda and chips (by US and UK definition) in the house except for a *very* rare treat of fast food. Wife and her family occasionally ate home cooking, but often it was pizza, McDonald's, Krispy Kreme and all things Mrs. Paul's. They also drank several regular Cokes a day and snacked on cans of Pringles. This is how I began eating, not to mention all the government cheese on chips I was eating at her place.

Years later at my highest weight I was just shy of 270 lbs. (122.5 kg), at 5'-9" (175.26 cm) I don't know if my body created any new fat cells or not, I'm hoping I just oversized my existing cells. Even shrinking existing fat cells signals the brain (so I understand), but eventually your body gets use to it.

I'd love to hear from anyone in the know about this. The deal is that I don't want to carry over any weight problems into my 50's, I want to put this entire weight loss thing to rest and only worry about maintenance, which I'm sure I'll have to do for the rest of my life.

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Again, congrats Razorback! cheers
Posted By: Razorback

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/23/16 09:45 PM

Originally Posted By: MarkG

If you become severely overweight after this time, your fat cells get maxed and start to divide to form new fat cells. You can never get rid of all the extra fat cells, you can only shrink them. Even as each cell dies after ~5 years, it's replaced by a new one, all of them are.

The good news is that you can shrink a fat cell to almost nothing, allowing you to slim down even with all the extra fat cells. The bad news is that a shrunken fat cell keeps signaling the brain to "feed" it (the more the shrinkage, the stronger the signal), causing a stronger than normal appetite. So as I understand it, it's much harder to maintain a huge weight loss then it is for a similarly sized person (with less fat cells) to not gain weight. It's a battle you fight for the rest of your life, and a reason they advise against childhood obesity while the body is still naturally creating new fat cells as they'll have too many as an adult.


And don't I know it. It's been a horrible first four months of 2016 as my body fights my weight loss. Thankfully, I lost it very slowly over half-a-decade so I've conditioned myself to counteract that self-sabotage stuff. But every day is a struggle. Actually, if truth be told, every day over the past five-years has been a struggle. But I put one foot in front of the other and go. I hate taking days off from working out just because routines are everything. Once you break a routine, that becomes your new routine --not doing anything.

Originally Posted By: MarkG

Again, congrats Razorback! cheers


Thanks!

My advice to anyone worried about their weight and staying in shape into their 30s, 40s, 50s and beyond is simple:

Don't stop working out. Don't stop doing things. Don't think you've "achieved a healthy status" or any such thing. You can maybe do that in your 20s. You can't do it much beyond that. Look, I'm 44 and I feel like a kid now... mostly because when I was in my 20s and 30s, I was as out of shape as anyone you will ever know.

I don't get tired during the day. I don't get winded walking or running. I only feel true struggle when running uphill for extended periods of time. I feel great. There is no reason most people can't feel this way well into their retirement age. You just have to work at it... and consider that there is nothing more important than FEELING GOOD every minute of every day, as opposed to feeling good for 2 minutes while downing McDonalds and then feeling terrible for the rest of the day.
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/16 09:59 PM

Been fighting that same battle for the last several years. Injuries, even though I have been trying to keep the workouts reasonable, keep setting me back but I am determined not to quit.


Wheels
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/16 10:21 PM

reading Any kind of exercise routine is good. Low impact works fine. Diet: what works for me is low carb, low sugar. Its kind of the Drinking man,s diet without the alcohol. ( No Bread). then 1 time a week, Take a break and have some kind of Junk food. If feeling starved between meals, have a some fruit ( not out of cans or bags) or popcorn It works for me and most of the time I have energy and dont feel hungry.

My Step son is a bodybuilder and for Diet: He does a low carb ( meal a day spread out all day) with meal replacement drinks or smoothies ( add fruit) Whey protein and Muscle milk comes to mind, although there are others .for quick energy, he drinks Coffee just like the rest of us.
Posted By: Razorback

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/16 11:24 PM

Originally Posted By: carrick58

My Step son is a bodybuilder and for Diet: He does a low carb ( meal a day spread out all day) with meal replacement drinks or smoothies


My #1 through 4 rule:

#1 NEVER
#2 DRINK
#3 YOUR
#4 CALORIES

screwy
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/06/16 09:22 AM

107 kg today.Going well but hitting a snag.

I'm now counting my calories so I know what my intake is.Yesterday for instance it was only 1200Kcal which is too little for a 6ft male but I just wasn't hungry.I had to force 300 in late at night to try to make it up.The down-side is that sometimes I'm getting a little light-headed when I get up quickly.I assume that's because I'm not eating enough?

I have a 24hr BP test on Tues as a follow-up to one I had done 6 months ago.That one was ok,maybe a little high hence the follow-up.My blood sugars are spot on.

I walk twice a day (30-40 mins)briskly. For my age/height/weight it's recommended to intake 2100-2700kcals.I was aiming for 1800 whilst dieting.

Obviously I will take these issues up with the nurse but what can I do differently?
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/06/16 09:47 AM

Chucky, what is your age, height and job? 2100-2700 seems way too much to me. I'm fit (15% Body Fat) meaning a higher base metabolism rate, exercise three times a week, 182cm with 34yo, but due to my sitting office job I end up with about 1800kcal a day to hold weight. Maybe 1900 if we assume I make mistakes counting (but I don't really...)

Any higher I'll gain. 2700kcal for me is for a construction worker...
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/06/16 10:03 AM

56/183/retired.

I got that info from a NHS web-site.It did seem high,I would have thought the lower figure was about right for the average person to maintain weight.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/06/16 11:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
56/183/retired.

I got that info from a NHS web-site.It did seem high,I would have thought the lower figure was about right for the average person to maintain weight.


While you should adapt values from calculators to your own body composition (high fat percentages should reduce the impact of high weight on the BMR, as fat is not metabolically active to the same degree as muscle), and metabolism. ... a BMR calculation for these values shows that your basal rate would currently be around 1939 kCal per day. Mifflin St Joer (By comparison my own is given as 1351 (43, 165cm, 53kg).

Your maintenance intake would then be increased from your BMR by some proportion - sedentary from around 40%, moderately active around 70%, vigorously active 100% and extremely active ~140%

The 2700kCal thus seems plausible if you have a 'normal' body composition, but may be somewhat excessive if you carry most of the excess weight as fatty tissue. It would be my dietary requirement if I were a manual labourer (agriculture) or similarly active, but for sedentary living I'd need less than 1900 kCal.

As a rough idea**, the difference in calorific usage between the WHO definitions of sedentary and moderately active is equivalent to around 7.5km, or a little under 5 miles of walking. Between Sedentary and vigorously active is around 15.3km or just under 10 miles of walking, and between Sedentary and Extremely active is around 25km or 16 miles of walking.
Running uses a little more, but not by as much as you might expect (though this has added value from occupying less time too). (5.5km, 11km, 18km)

**My calculations based on a combination of papers covering walking over a range of statures and for sloped and flat terrain (slopes make minimal difference over a loop, maybe 10% over a very hilly round trip, but can be significant for a single direction trip). Walking minimum ~ 1kCal per km per kg. Running 3.5/2.5 the walking rate independent of speed.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/06/16 12:47 PM

^That's the detailed of it wink

As Lieste said much more specific the problem with the calculators is they ask for weight, but they don't ask if that weight is muscle (which consumes energy even at rest) or fat (which doesn't consume energy).

I've experienced with various amounts of daily kcal when I wanted to drop from 85 to sub 80kg, and anything above 2000 average didn't really work. I got results with 1600 or less daily average (which sucks to manage) and now at a daily average of 1800 I mostly keep my weight, but maybe with a very subtle tendency to lose (which evens out in the occasional mad weekend family visit or such).

It's possible that I suffer a bit from the effect that the body can adapt to reduced intake, so a more "normal" intake for me might be 2000kcal.

For you, in your situation, the maximum I would work with to actually lose weight is 1800. But if you can manage a week on 1600 daily it won't hurt either. Based on my experience I would alternate weekly between 1800 and 1600 (or even try to lowball 1400) to keep the body from going into energy saving mode. Further what I did was to alternate daily between "High days and low days", i.e. 1600 one day and 1200 the next. That way every second day you can fit some junk in and the craving becomes less of a problem.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/06/16 01:55 PM

Interesting stuff you guys are posting. I need to be more diligent with calorie counting, what I learned about nuts earlier in this thread was a real eye opener to me.

Chucky, I've had dizzy spells after longer runs (usually about 20 min. after jogging a mile or so), would check my BP and it would be too low. The solution was to make an appointment with my GP and get my dosage lowered. I'm waiting for that to happen again in the near future, although you said your pressure was a little high so I guess this wouldn't be it.

I've also been light-headed when getting up too quickly, but also when I lie down flat (it comes and goes). I workout a couple of times a week and when I first lie on the bench, I give it a few seconds before picking up on the bar, just to be sure. There have been times that just laying down gets the room spinning, but it only lasts for a couple of seconds.

I believe most dizzy spells from getting up or lying down are caused by inner ear and not blood pressure problems.

One of the potential side effects of BP medication in older men is ED, so if you're on it, it's best to try to get off of it if you can. wink I'm not so worried about my junk not working properly (again), it's my ears that concern me now. Too many years of loud music and especially wearing headphones constantly, my tinnitus is getting worse. I've had ear problems my whole life (post-tube eardrum scarring and draining) but all things considered, I normally do well enough on hearing tests. It's been a while since I've been tested so I'm way overdue (and a little concerned that it might get worse).

Music is a large part of my motivation to work hard on being fit, I'm being much more careful with volume and duration now, giving my ears a frequent break. My father now wears hearing aids (well, he's *suppose* to wear them) but not from loud music, from construction noises I assume. I'm hoping that by the time I'm in my 70's they'll be able to zap a laser in there (like they do with eyeballs) and fix any problems. smile
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/06/16 03:24 PM

Be careful when using tables or applications that give an estimated calorie usage based on many of the methods commonly used. These tend to be "gross" effort - that is the BMR, the increment from active metabolism (the sedentary rate - digestion etc), and the actual 'work' portion.

However the first two are already a 'given' for the entire period of exercise and the difference or net work is only the smaller additional amount. This effect is greatest for long duration low intensity efforts, but applies to all activities to some degree. Relying only on your device or an estimate from a website etc is unlikely to be accurate and to overestimate the benefit of many types of common activity. (which is ok if you are eating an exercising sensibly already - defining the wrong values to describe this is not "important"... but if you are using the numbers to guide lifestyle choices you may have disappointing results from 'good' numbers).

If I walk 13km in two hours (my normal pace), then I would expect to use ~690kCal for the exercise plus the regular ~160kCal from my 'sedentary' metabolic requirements.
If I walk with friends or my daughter at a 4hour pace, then I would still expect to use roughly 700kCal for the walking (it is slightly off my most efficient pace), but now I would have used ~320kCal from my normal usage over the 'effort duration' - most calculators and my HRM give the slower walk this noticeable increase in usage over the longer duration - and the effect increases as the pace goes down. (The breakdown of metabolism over the day may not be as simple as this - but be wary of double counting your idle metabolism while monitoring your activity, especially if looking for the small margins advised by health professionals of 500-1000 kCal per day of deficit - overestimating the value of exercise can easily 'eat up' most of this margin).
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 09:39 AM

Hmm, this is interesting... and I'm not posting this as a veiled attempt at bragging, but because it really confuses me...

When I came back from a month in Malta last year (July) I dropped a notch on my belt (in fact I had to have additional holes made). I then did most of my diet and kcal control up to Christmas last year, and from then started being constant but not concerned about losing more.

Today I realize I could drop another notch. But my weight hasn't really gone down significantly, and neither do I see a clearly visible amount of additional muscle.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 11:03 AM

102.3 kg today.I've not been this weight for many years and I'm feeling good about it.115 was my approx starting weight.

I'm waiting for the results from a 24hr BP test and it will be interesting to see how the results compare to the last one I had.Hopefully an improvement.

The nurse suggested 1400kcal a day,that would see a 0.4-0.9 kg loss per week.

Still walking/cycling twice a day and doing some mild exercises at home.

My goal is 85-90kg.
Posted By: JG26 vonVampr

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 02:01 PM

Hello, I've been overweight my entire life and yoyo dieted through most of it. I just turned 52 and have gained and lost more weight over the years on more "diet" plans than anyone else I know. I'm a typeII diabetic with a all time high glucose of 600!! I have diabetic neuropathy, had a 3rd nerve palsy of the right eye which caused a disabling double vision that doctors thought might be permanent. I was on Levamir (insulin), Glipizide and Metformin for diabetes. I was taking Metoprolol and Enalapril for high blood pressure and they wanted me on statens for high cholesterol which I refused to take. I just wanted to give you guys a little background and to let you know I've been through the diet, lifestyle change ringer many times over. Now on to what I really wanted to say...

The governments food pyramid is a lie and is killing people by the thousands every year. It and the way we eat are the reason there is an obesity and diabetes epidemic in our country and around the world. Fats and oils in our diet are the devil, period! Lipids (fats) at the cellular level are clogging our cells and making us resistant to insulin. This insulin resistance is the start of a horrible cycle of destruction called diabetes. Processed foods, fats and oils are the reason we are the fattest country in the world. I spent months of research discovering what's been kept from me my whole life....the truth!!

The truth is that naturally we are NOT meat eaters. Before the stone age man didn't eat meat because without tools (spears, axes, bows) man had zero chance of catching any game to eat. Humans are pound for pound the weakest beings on the planet. We have crappy vision, terrible sense of smell, we run very slow, no claws, no dagger like canines for killing and ripping flesh. Our digestive tracts digest fruits and carbs fast and efficiently. Meat not so much. Meat is the hardest thing for us to digest, delivers the fat to our bodies that become the lipids that screw up our cells . Meat is responsible for millions of deaths every year around the world and yet for most of us it's our main staple.

I stopped eating animal products and have almost completely stopped using oils of any kind (including olive oil) on March 15. My glucose immediately crashed and I'm now completely off of insulin, my kidney function returned to normal, my blood pressure dropped 30 points and I'm almost completely off of the BP meds. My A1C went from 11 (yes, 11!!) in Feb. to 6.3 on April 28th! The palsy and double vision went away and my vision returned to it's normal 20-15! My doctor is in a state of shock and can't believe the turn around in my labs and health and grilled me for 45 minutes about what I was doing and how I was doing it. I've lost 60 ibs in two months without any working out or calorie restrictions. A calorie restricted diet is a recipe for failure. I eat a LOT of fruits and complex carbs and I'm never hungry.

I was told my whole life that potatoes , rice and other carbs and the natural sugars from fruit would make you fat and give you diabetes. So after reading books from Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn, Dr. Neal Barnard, Dr. Gabriel Cousens and many other books, studies and research papers I realized we've been lied to and misled and I decided to make major lifestyle changes and experimented with food and what it did to my body. I found that I could eat 10 bananas, two oranges, two apples, a huge salad and 3 medium potatoes and a huge sweet potato in one day and wake up the next morning with a fasting glucose of 85! It was hard to eat all of that as I was extremely full. I now eat this way everyday and the weight continues to fall off, the cholesterol continues to go lower and my labs continue their march to normalcy. I know it's hard to hear that our whole lives we've been lied to and misled either out of ignorance or greed. It's hard to hear that our mothers, brothers, sisters, fathers, wives, husbands sons and daughters died when they didn't have to. It's hard to know I've wasted decades of my life being obese when I didn't have to. Open your eyes people, please! If you're like me and desperate for a change and want to change your life without surgery, meds, fad BS diets then search for those names I mentioned and research these things for yourself and shed the yoke of BS that's been laid on us our whole lives. If you made it all of the wy to the end thank you for taking the time to read this novel ;-). If anyone wants more info or just to talk PM or email me and I'll help you anyway I can.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 02:14 PM

I'd not go as far as to agree that oil and fats are bad for you, but we do tend to consume processed foods laced with excessive fats, sugars and salt to make them more-ish, cheap and really convenient. Even if we eat mostly healthy foods,. these appetisers do encourage increased appetite for these types of foods on top of (or instead of) the better choices.

It isn't just a direct equivalence of calories between two foods either, but the ease with which the body processes them - increased processing reduces the needed digestion reducing the expenditure of energy to capture the food energy - and leaving more which can be converted from glucose into stored lipids.


Alcohol is also a bad choice if concerned with energy intake - there can be a lot of sugars and alcohol itself is high energy density and low in nutritional value.
Posted By: JG26 vonVampr

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 02:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Lieste
I'd not go as far as to agree that oil and fats are bad for you, but we do tend to consume processed foods laced with excessive fats, sugars and salt to make them more-ish, cheap and really convenient. Even if we eat mostly healthy foods,. these appetisers do encourage increased appetite for these types of foods on top of (or instead of) the better choices.

It isn't just a direct equivalence of calories between two foods either, but the ease with which the body processes them - increased processing reduces the needed digestion reducing the expenditure of energy to capture the food energy - and leaving more which can be converted from glucose into stored lipids.


Alcohol is also a bad choice if concerned with energy intake - there can be a lot of sugars and alcohol itself is high energy density and low in nutritional value.


Without a doubt there are different sources of fats, and fat from nuts and legumes are certainly much better for you than fats from meat and dairy and oils. No oil, including olive oil are naturally occurring in nature, they are a processed fat. Read Dr. Esselstyn's (heart surgeon and Chief of Staff at the Cleveland Clinic) book or watch his videos online and it may open your eyes to the effect of fats and oil on our hearts and vascular systems. He has done huge studies for many years and proven what he's preaching. Also read Dr. Neal Barnard's book on the effects of fats on our cells or watch his TedX talk on youtube, it too was for me a eye opener as well. These doctors may have saved my life as I was dying and without my lifestyle and diet change I might not be here. I know it sounds overly dramatic, but it really is true.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 04:22 PM

Lots of good advice on this thread. I don't think I could cut out animal fats completely though, I eat very little red meat anyway because I much prefer eating seafood (does this count as meat?) and chicken. I do eat plenty of non-processed cheese and half-&-half in my coffee, so I'm taking in some bad saturated fats.

But you gotta live! I can't see my wife and I ever being on a super restrictive or no-tolerance type diet plan, we just try to keep the best daily diet we can, some days being better than others.

I've cut way back on alcohol the past couple of years. I'm going to be enjoying a little alcohol tomorrow evening for the first time since <checks Molly Ringwalds thread> Mar. 4. I even turned down a fridge full of beer at a recent family reunion! eek Moderation is key. smile

I can't stress enough how good working out makes you feel (Mrs. agrees)! Even if you don't like gyms, a cheap bench and set of weights is all you need. This weekend I'll be looking for a more comfortable dedicated curl bar.

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One of the biggest problems IMO is portion sizes, they're absurd! Yeah, I know you can take it with you (and I do) except that I'd rather enjoy a smaller indulgence and leave it [the indulgent eating] at the restaurant. Sometimes splitting a plate is perfect, but this can take away from variety which has become more important to me that quantity. At places we frequent ("frequent" being relative), we have it down pat what to order.

After a concert Saturday night we had a rare splurge of dessert at a Waffle House. We normally get different things for variety and we share, these are "Small Size" slices!

Check out the numbers:

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Regular Slice..........520-880 Calories
Small Slice..........260-440 Calories

http://www.wafflehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/FY16_OP5_no-price_menu_Lunch-Dinner-2048.png
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Going by calories, a "Regular Slice" would have been *twice* the size you see in my pic! That would be about a quarter of a pie?! IMO, there should be an even smaller option like the slice of cheese cake you use to get at Chick-fil-A (which was more of what I was expecting).

I believe the *amount* we eat is at least an equal factor of the current weight problem as to *what* we eat.

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Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 04:33 PM

That pecan pie slice looks like a standard slice not me and not "small". I don't know, maybe Louisiana is just like Texas where "bigger is better"? biggrin
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 04:41 PM

Just back from the doctor.He tells me my BP is now 'perfect' and has come down since my last 24hr test.Whatever I'm doing he says keep doing it.Now to work on the Cholesterol level.I'm really quite pleased with myself.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 05:37 PM

Great to hear Chucky!

BTW, some more numbers: 1g Fat has 9kcal. So, in order to burn 1kg fat, you need 9000kcal - but luckily, our body doesn't burn perfectly lossless, so you need ~7000kcal deficit to lose one kg.

If you stick with 1400kcal a day that's easily 500 a day defizit, so about half a kilo, or maybe two thirds. I wouldn't try losing more than two or three per months anyway, as any greater loss is hardly sustainable.

So yeah, 1400 sounds good, you should be seeing results by August if you stick with it. Caveat as I said before: If you go into "eat little mode" your body will eventually adapt and reduce your daily needs. That's why I think some more "normal days" in between are a good idea, there's even the topic of "reverse dieting" that handles this kind of issue.
Posted By: JG26 vonVampr

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 06:12 PM

Originally Posted By: MarkG
Lots of good advice on this thread. I don't think I could cut out animal fats completely though, I eat very little red meat anyway because I much prefer eating seafood (does this count as meat?) and chicken. I do eat plenty of non-processed cheese and half-&-half in my coffee, so I'm taking in some bad saturated fats.

But you gotta live! I can't see my wife and I ever being on a super restrictive or no-tolerance type diet plan, we just try to keep the best daily diet we can, some days being better than others.

I've cut way back on alcohol the past couple of years. I'm going to be enjoying a little alcohol tomorrow evening for the first time since <checks Molly Ringwalds thread> Mar. 4. I even turned down a fridge full of beer at a recent family reunion! eek Moderation is key. smile

I can't stress enough how good working out makes you feel (Mrs. agrees)! Even if you don't like gyms, a cheap bench and set of weights is all you need. This weekend I'll be looking for a more comfortable dedicated curl bar.

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One of the biggest problems IMO is portion sizes, they're absurd! Yeah, I know you can take it with you (and I do) except that I'd rather enjoy a smaller indulgence and leave it [the indulgent eating] at the restaurant. Sometimes splitting a plate is perfect, but this can take away from variety which has become more important to me that quantity. At places we frequent ("frequent" being relative), we have it down pat what to order.

After a concert Saturday night we had a rare splurge of dessert at a Waffle House...



We normally get different things for variety and we share, these are "Small Size" slices!

Check out the numbers:

==========
Regular Slice..........520-880 Calories
Small Slice..........260-440 Calories

http://www.wafflehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/FY16_OP5_no-price_menu_Lunch-Dinner-2048.png
==========

Going by calories, a "Regular Slice" would have been *twice* the size you see in my pic! That would be about a quarter of a pie?! IMO, there should be an even smaller option like the slice of cheese cake you use to get at Chick-fil-A (which was more of what I was expecting).

I believe the *amount* we eat is at least an equal factor of the current weight problem as to *what* we eat.


Hey Mark, the pie looks great! Trust me when I say that this Marc knows no one that was a bigger eater of meat and dairy then I was in the past. I had a particular lust for Colby cheese and would eat a lot of it every week and I had eaten meat and dairy every meal of every day for my entire life. No one in my family or friends can believe that I'm eating a vegan diet. None of them thought that would ever be possible, including myself but when I was done doing my research, the facts couldn't be denied. I'm not having any trouble eating this way at all, in fact it's easy as most of my meals are raw so there's no cooking required. I'm far from a strict vegan, I had scallops and pasta on Mothers Day and will indulge myself in sweets when and if I feel the need. Here's how I've been rolling lately...

Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 06:15 PM

While over a short term 1lb ~3500 kCal. ... your body is conservative and will adapt. To sustain loss is harder than to start it, and while there is a metabolic cost from the liberated energy, it is actually better to assume a higher required deficit for a multi-pound long term loss (if for no other reason that there are going to be over estimates of exercise value and underestimates of eating in many cases).

I've seen suggestions that it could be as high as 7000 per lb, which is supposed to fit well with a loss at "3500 per lb" being around half what is expected in most cases over a 12 month period.
Posted By: PFunk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 06:16 PM

My wife and I got activity tracking bracelets, the Garmin Vivofit. If you're looking for an inexpensive one, you can't beat it. Got ours on Amazon for $50 apiece, and most importantly, it is waterproof. I can swim and kayak in it.

In April, my wife and I began an effort to lose some weight. I was getting frustrated with how I looked and felt, and so was she. I am 5'8" and weighed 183 pounds. My wife weighed a couple of pounds more and is about 2 inches shorter than me.

We started with how activity we do in the day. The Garmin Vivofit gives you a walking goal every day, usually a little over four miles, but it will increase or decrease the goal depending on whether or not you meet it. It also comes with a very good app for the iPhone (no idea if there is one for the Android, but I am almost certain there is one). I also linked UnderArmour's apps with my Garmin. MyFitnessPal comes with a truly awesome food journal. More on that in a minute.

I also have UnderArmour's MapMyRide and MapMyHike apps. I have done more biking in the last month than I have in the last 12 years. First thing, I replaced my saddle with one that was more comfortable for 'the boys' and got new pedals. I use the MapMyHike app to track my kayaking. Both will use distance and speed to determine how much calorie burning is happening and it's all on the phone I use everyday.

Activity is one thing, your food intake is critical. More calories have to leave than arrive in order to lose weight. It's that simple. I was shocked and horrified at how much was going in and how little I was using. MyFitnessPal cut me down 1820 calories per day. My wife and I always drink a lot of water, but the sodas were the first to go. We have a rule; don't drink your calories, eat them. No juice, no sweet drinks except for Gatorade for rehydration after a workout. Water only. We eat whatever we want, but with the understanding we have a limit. If we want something special, we have to earn calories to get it. My digestion has greatly improved.

In the last four weeks, my wife has lost 11 pounds and I have lost about ten. If I keep up with my current level of activity, in five weeks I will weigh 167 pounds. My wife and I have the goal of 160. We're about to start adding some strength training. I don't want to be Mr. Muscle, I just want to be toned up. I feel lighter, I don't jiggle when I walk and my pants are looser on me. My wife is starting to get her pre-kids body back and that has me REALLY stoked because to me, she's hot already.

Praying for the other guys in this thread or those reading and thinking, "Maybe I should try to get in a little better shape." I feel so much better and have more energy, more zip. Doesn't hurt in the bedroom, either, fellas.

Good luck, guys!
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 06:23 PM

I'm also looking to tone up,especially my upper body.Would some simple weights be sufficient to do this? I don't want to buy expensive equipment.Gym is a no-no.I feel very uncomfortable in there.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 06:34 PM

What about diet sodas? They have zero carbs and zero calories.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 07:13 PM

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
What about diet sodas? They have zero carbs and zero calories.


Chemicals. Go water if you can, squeezing and then dumping a lemon wedge is all I need to make it interesting.

On Sunday at a family reunion I treated myself to 3 or 4 large plastic cups of Diet Dr. Pepper from a 2L, something I rarely do these days. Pre-2008 I could take out a 12-pack over the weekend (Diet or regular Dr. Pepper, I like them both equally even though they taste very differently).

A side effect is that my face stays clear and no longer breaks out. Also, while doctors have questioned my observations, I believe an overdose of diet sodas (also Diet Coke) was a primary reason I was getting so many acute gout attacks.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 07:16 PM

I could live without any kind of soda but I have to have my coffee. I would get violent if my access to coffee was cut off for whatever reason. biggrin
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 07:43 PM

It's also harder to cut out those snacks if you were used to having them with your full sugar sodas. The same appetite is encouraged by using the 'zero cal' alternatives.

I'm not sure if they also prime the metabolism to release and/or store glucose from the body's stores but it doesn't seem impossible that you may mess with blood sugar by using non absorbable alternatives.


Coffee is fine in moderation but be careful of some store bought sweet coffees (which can have a metric sh!tton of sugar in them).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 08:47 PM

Originally Posted By: PFunk
My wife and I...

YES! thumbsup The recipe for success right there (if you're married). Living a healthy lifestyle is a HUGE thing to have in common, IMO. You make wise decisions together and you occasionally agree to splurge together (and without feeling guilty about it), but mostly you help keep each other in check.

Sunday...I'm sampling the many desserts at a family reunion, I sit my paper plate down across from her at the table. Instead of a scornful look or look of disinterest, I get a warm smile and a look that reminds me not to #%&*$# this thing up we have going. I had no intention of sharing my desserts but that's what I did, she hadn't eaten any yet so we split a good portion of it. Afterward, I realized I was better off not eating the entire plate by myself anyway.

A small example of support, but it adds up.


Originally Posted By: PFunk
We're about to start adding some strength training. I don't want to be Mr. Muscle, I just want to be toned up.

Even if I wanted to, I could never be dedicated enough to be a Mr. Muscle and besides, I want to be as light as possible on my knees, ankles and especially my feet. I like the idea of having a thin but solidly built physique (like Geddy Lee smile ). Even *that* may be out of reach at this point, but I'll keep trying without killing myself. I'm not going to push so hard as to risk injury or even the enjoyment of a good workout.

Especially with being thin framed and approaching 50, my wife recognizes the importance strength training plays with avoiding or delaying osteoporosis. We workout together twice a week, she'll go first. I decide on the exercises for each workout and change out the weights on the bars and dumb bells (I keep a sheet with our current weights). She'll spot my presses and then either hang out on the sofa or run the treadmill as I go through my routine.


Originally Posted By: PFunk
I feel lighter, I don't jiggle when I walk and my pants are looser on me. My wife is starting to get her pre-kids body back and that has me REALLY stoked because to me, she's hot already.

smile

A woman in progress of looking and feeling better about herself is a happier woman, and one who wants to make her man happy (and vise versa). wink She'll even start wearing nice things to bed ("I like the way this material feels"). Even if it makes no difference that night it may the next morning when your t-levels are peaking and you can afford a couple of snooze taps on the alarm clock.

I actually enjoy clothes shopping with my wife, and I'm not at all embarrassed to be seen inside a Victoria's Secret or similar store/area. I can entertain myself at the dressing rooms with a paperback in-between modeling, any aggravation I keep to myself behind a smile (until I can vent here...lol. biggrin ).

Depending on individual circumstances (like how long you've been together)...

Lots of things can trigger sweet nostalgia (music, smells, activities) but when the very feel of your bodies become the trigger (like when you're holding or hugging)...
...look out! explode

Originally Posted By: PFunk
Praying for the other guys in this thread or those reading and thinking, "Maybe I should try to get in a little better shape." I feel so much better and have more energy, more zip. Doesn't hurt in the bedroom, either, fellas.

Good luck, guys!

Amen. cheers
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 09:30 PM

Chucky regarding training at home: Yes.

A few simple exercises with dumbbell or rubber bands ("theraband") does a nice trick, pushups, pullups, situps, the whole stuff can be done at home.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 09:55 PM

Thanks RSColonel.I had to look up theraband,wasn't sure what it was.I'll start with some weights I think.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 11:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
Thanks RSColonel.I had to look up theraband,wasn't sure what it was.I'll start with some weights I think.


Relatively small weights with moderate numbers of reps are probably best to start. Bottles of water are good and cheap starting points - you can use milk cartons or similar to increase the size a bit.
Posted By: Brun

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/12/16 11:56 PM

Originally Posted By: JG26 vonVampr

Hey Mark, the pie looks great! Trust me when I say that this Marc knows no one that was a bigger eater of meat and dairy then I was in the past. I had a particular lust for Colby cheese and would eat a lot of it every week and I had eaten meat and dairy every meal of every day for my entire life. No one in my family or friends can believe that I'm eating a vegan diet. None of them thought that would ever be possible, including myself but when I was done doing my research, the facts couldn't be denied. I'm not having any trouble eating this way at all, in fact it's easy as most of my meals are raw so there's no cooking required. I'm far from a strict vegan, I had scallops and pasta on Mothers Day and will indulge myself in sweets when and if I feel the need.


Between this and your previous post I can't see where you're getting any regular protein from, you seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. I don't see much point in a vegan diet other than for ethical reasons.

Healthy living isn't any sort of mystery. You need a balanced diet and some sort of equilibrium between calories in and calories expended.
Posted By: Dart

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/13/16 02:01 AM

Hey, I'm back into 80% of my trousers, which is a relief. The ACU's I wore just before retirement are just a tad snug, so there's work left to be done.

I bought one of those bags that have 12 lunch sized little bags of potato chips and limit myself to one a day as a treat. Or two, if I'm feeling I really want it. Yes, it's more expensive and a dumb way to do portion control, but it works pretty well.

I have one "tent pole" meal of the day and limit myself to something very light at the end of the day. I normally have a Parisian Breakfast* so no loss there.

I need to do more flutter kicks, though. My abs look a little large in the lower two muscles.

* Coffee and a cigarette.
Posted By: PFunk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/13/16 02:12 AM

Originally Posted By: MarkG
Originally Posted By: PFunk
My wife and I...

YES! thumbsup The recipe for success right there (if you're married). Living a healthy lifestyle is a HUGE thing to have in common, IMO. You make wise decisions together and you occasionally agree to splurge together (and without feeling guilty about it), but mostly you help keep each other in check.

Sunday...I'm sampling the many desserts at a family reunion, I sit my paper plate down across from her at the table. Instead of a scornful look or look of disinterest, I get a warm smile and a look that reminds me not to #%&*$# this thing up we have going. I had no intention of sharing my desserts but that's what I did, she hadn't eaten any yet so we split a good portion of it. Afterward, I realized I was better off not eating the entire plate by myself anyway.

A small example of support, but it adds up.


Originally Posted By: PFunk
We're about to start adding some strength training. I don't want to be Mr. Muscle, I just want to be toned up.

Even if I wanted to, I could never be dedicated enough to be a Mr. Muscle and besides, I want to be as light as possible on my knees, ankles and especially my feet. I like the idea of having a thin but solidly built physique (like Geddy Lee smile ). Even *that* may be out of reach at this point, but I'll keep trying without killing myself. I'm not going to push so hard as to risk injury or even the enjoyment of a good workout.

Especially with being thin framed and approaching 50, my wife recognizes the importance strength training plays with avoiding or delaying osteoporosis. We workout together twice a week, she'll go first. I decide on the exercises for each workout and change out the weights on the bars and dumb bells (I keep a sheet with our current weights). She'll spot my presses and then either hang out on the sofa or run the treadmill as I go through my routine.


Originally Posted By: PFunk
I feel lighter, I don't jiggle when I walk and my pants are looser on me. My wife is starting to get her pre-kids body back and that has me REALLY stoked because to me, she's hot already.

smile

A woman in progress of looking and feeling better about herself is a happier woman, and one who wants to make her man happy (and vise versa). wink She'll even start wearing nice things to bed ("I like the way this material feels"). Even if it makes no difference that night it may the next morning when your t-levels are peaking and you can afford a couple of snooze taps on the alarm clock.

I actually enjoy clothes shopping with my wife, and I'm not at all embarrassed to be seen inside a Victoria's Secret or similar store/area. I can entertain myself at the dressing rooms with a paperback in-between modeling, any aggravation I keep to myself behind a smile (until I can vent here...lol. biggrin ).

Depending on individual circumstances (like how long you've been together)...

Lots of things can trigger sweet nostalgia (music, smells, activities) but when the very feel of your bodies become the trigger (like when you're holding or hugging)...
...look out! explode

Originally Posted By: PFunk
Praying for the other guys in this thread or those reading and thinking, "Maybe I should try to get in a little better shape." I feel so much better and have more energy, more zip. Doesn't hurt in the bedroom, either, fellas.

Good luck, guys!

Amen. cheers


Preach, brother. And yeah, if I had Geddy Lee's build, I'd be a boss. Like tonight's snack was a little bit of Zatarain's Dirty Rice (I'm addicted to it), nine Triscuit crackers, red pepper hummus and artisan cheddar cheese cubes from HEB, and few slices of salami.

Sounds like a lot, right? Except when you compare the contents to all the prepackaged crap, it comes out to about 600 calories in an entire meal. My exercise workout today earned 300 of it. I have rediscovered how much I love hummus and thank God it's low cal. Eat slow, chew slow. Taste your food, you won't want or need as much.

On the soda thing, avoid them. It's just junk. Eat your calories, don't drink them. It tastes better, it is more filling, you get less hungry in between meals. Something that fixed me was San Pellegrino mineral water. A little lime and there's enough taste for me.

Guys, I'm gonna echo what Mark said, this isn't about being all ripped. This is about your pants fitting or even dropping an inch in waistline. I don't want huge muscles, I just to be wiry again. Eat what you want, just don't eat as much of it. Get outside. I don't even lift weights, I use resistance bands. Bike day is 'leg day', kayak day is 'arm day'. I'm fortunate in that I live on a lake so I can use a kayak just by walking down the hill, but anybody can buy a bicycle at Wal-Mart.

I don't recommend running. It's absolute hell on your knees and ankles, and if you're in your forties like me, you don't want that. Swim if you can, but if you can't, bike.

Mark, keep up the good work, man. Hope the wife's doing okay, heard you guys had a health scare on her recently. I'll say a prayer.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/13/16 09:30 AM

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
What about diet sodas? They have zero carbs and zero calories.


Coke Zero is a frequent "cheat" if I need something sweet after a meal.

Not so much concerned about the chemicals, rather about blood pressure from coffein.

But it's helpful.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/13/16 09:37 AM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
Thanks RSColonel.I had to look up theraband,wasn't sure what it was.I'll start with some weights I think.


I'm hesitant to share my workout because it's highly non-professional and likely onesided. But you can't go wrong with a simple weight set and getting some advice (maybe hire a personal trainer for an hour to give you some basics, or youtube...) If you have the space get a bench that doubles for situps (leg fixture...)

Do not underestimate body weight exercises... get a set of pushup grips, read up on "planking", Dips are also very helpful.

I prefer larger number of reps with lower strength, it doesn't bulk me up but is more about definition. Not that I'm anything special but you can find my picture a few pages back, and I definitly get complimented by women on my arms. Takes all of 90 minutes a week (+1h cardio) at home.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/13/16 01:25 PM

Thanks, PFunk. smile

All that remains of that health scare is a fading scar, which is a constant reminder to take a moment and give them a little once over. wink

Zatarain's? Sounds like my kind of dinner! Really, I sometimes enjoy a variety snacking type of meal, especially with hummus (I have pics on the food thread of this sort of meal).

We make an effort now not to take in any calories past 7PM if we can help it (6PM was impossible), as if we're fasting for early morning blood work. Not always possible, but we try.

++++++++++

I tried to word my previous post carefully and wanted to clarify and maybe elaborate on it a little...

"A woman in progress of looking and feeling better about herself is a happier woman..."

The same could apply to men as well, of course. I want to stress that it doesn't matter where you're starting from, IMO it's all relative.

I'm usually blunt with my comments and opinions, this will be no different...

I believe what makes my wife and I so attracted to each other in our late-40's goes beyond the physical, there's the long history as well as working together as a team better than we ever have before. I feel a total connection now, like we truly are that "one flesh" you hear spoken at weddings. I can't get enough of her and I think she feels the same way.

But if all the fun and passion came to a screeching halt due to something beyond our control, we'd survive it. It would require a major shift in mindset but we'd get through it and deal with our new circumstances together, I know we would.

Still, you can't marginalize physical attraction, even if it's becoming more politically correct to do so. If you're getting fit solely for health reasons and not for appearances (a popular feminist sentiment), great. Who cares about the reason why, just do it! But IMO, the more reasons you have, the easier it is to stay motivated for the duration. And what I find, it's allot harder to argue and fight with someone you just want to hold and love on. biggrin

Physical attraction to me is relative in that it's more about putting forth the effort and continually improving yourself, versus absolute as in comparing yourself to others or even your younger self. This is something I have to be mindful of as I love the nostalgia of our early years of dating and marriage, when life seemed much more exciting and we had our whole lives in front of us. Our teenage years and early 20's were a long time ago and no matter how healthy our lifestyle is today, there's no denying our aging and that we're only getting older.

So now it takes more effort for lessor results, but it's the effort I find so appealing and attractive. From making better decisions and encouraging me to do the same, to our sweaty workouts and walks/runs together. Effort will bring results, how can it not? But regardless of results, the effort and progress is such a turn on.

It's all about making the best of your current situation, to be the best you can be, and that's something everyone can work on.

<Trips off soapbox and cracks tooth>.
Posted By: VF9_Longbow

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/13/16 01:49 PM

Currently at 68kg and getting back into exercising - winter was mostly off due to my house being way too cold to work out comfortably (Sub zero temps in some rooms, old Japanese houses suck big time!)

I started weight training again last week after about 3-4 months off. Started at 22% body fat, I'm already down to 19%, but weight has not changed signifying a decent increase in muscle and moderate decrease in fat.

I will be cutting out carbohydrates completely later this month and my target is 60kg by July 1st. A little bit of a tight deadline but my workouts are good and I walk about 3.5 km every day going to work so that also helps.

Will post up a progress shot once I feel it's worth it!
Posted By: JG26 vonVampr

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/13/16 03:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Brun
Originally Posted By: JG26 vonVampr

Hey Mark, the pie looks great! Trust me when I say that this Marc knows no one that was a bigger eater of meat and dairy then I was in the past. I had a particular lust for Colby cheese and would eat a lot of it every week and I had eaten meat and dairy every meal of every day for my entire life. No one in my family or friends can believe that I'm eating a vegan diet. None of them thought that would ever be possible, including myself but when I was done doing my research, the facts couldn't be denied. I'm not having any trouble eating this way at all, in fact it's easy as most of my meals are raw so there's no cooking required. I'm far from a strict vegan, I had scallops and pasta on Mothers Day and will indulge myself in sweets when and if I feel the need.


Between this and your previous post I can't see where you're getting any regular protein from, you seem to have gone from one extreme to the other. I don't see much point in a vegan diet other than for ethical reasons.

Healthy living isn't any sort of mystery. You need a balanced diet and some sort of equilibrium between calories in and calories expended.



LOL...I'm laughing because the old clich really is true. The first question anyone asks a vegan is where do they get their protein? My answer is always "I get it from the same place that gorillas, rhinos, elephants, giraffes and all of the other herbivores get it, plants! Hemp seeds, Chia seeds, Chic peas, Flax seeds, lentils, beans and legumes, broccoli, seaweed and algae and on and on are all good sources of protein. There is protein everywhere in the plant world, everywhere. You just have to eat enough of the things that contain them.

I really don't think eating fruits and vegetables is in anyway "extreme" compared to eating meat and dairy? I agree with some of what you said, there must be a balance of the right things in our diets to stay healthy. The point of the vegan diet is to do exactly that, eat the correct balance of healthy foods to provide the best health possible. I don't believe that eating meat and dairy is the healthy way, but that's my personal opinion and I respect the choices you make for you own diet. Both of my brother in-laws, my mother and father, my grandmother(who died blind and infirm) and myself all have diabetes and all eat a meat and dairy diet. My one bil's father lost both legs and died of diabetes. Those are just the people that are in my immediate family circle, not the hundreds of other friends and their relatives who have suffered the same fate. The empirical evidence suggests (that for me anyways) veganism works and is reversing conditions that I've suffered with for many years. If you consider that "extreme", then so be it.

In closing, you mention calories in and calories out as the simple answer to all of anyone's health problems. The thing that you fail to mention is where those calories came from, and what our body does with them once they enter our digestive tract. My one brother in-law weighs 155lbs, is 5'8" and doesn't have an once of visible fat anywhere on his body. He's been a runner and a bicyclist his whole life. He was struck with type II adult onset diabetes at around age 35. He has high blood pressure and very high cholesterol and still exercises daily, was eating a "balanced" diet and still has all of these problems. Why? His diet, high in fat and cholesterol is why. Those things come from a meat and dairy based diet, no matter what the "balance" is. He saw the immediate change it made in me and watched me stop taking insulin and lose weight, all while eating a lot of good food and never being hungry. He and my sister decided to try their own version of what I was doing, as they didn't think they could completely commit to a hundred percent veganism. So they adopted a hybrid kind of vegetarianism with some limited consumption of meat and dairy, but scaled WAY back from their normal meat based diet. He immediately (within two weeks) reduced his insulin dependency by 2/3rd's. His cholesterol dropped 40 points and in a few short weeks he'd gotten done what he's been trying to do for almost 20 years! He told me yesterday that he's now going to drop the rest of his meat and dairy intake as it's been proven to him that those things do bad stuff to his body. While all of this was happening for him, my sister, obese most of her adult life after having children also lost 20 lbs so far and says she feels better than she's felt in decades. The only regret any of us have is that we weren't raised this way and didn't adopt this lifestyle 30 years ago.

Your mileage may vary cheers
Posted By: PV1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/15/16 12:35 PM

If you're eating substantial amounts of hemp and flax seeds
(and nuts like hazel and pecan are good too) then you are
getting a decent amount of the oils which you absolutely
need - *essential* fatty acids. Otherwise, I'd be concerned.
Too little EFA results in degradation of skin and neurons,
which are the major tissues relying on these.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/18/16 11:01 AM

Going well. 106kg.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/18/16 11:33 AM

Hmm, didn't you say about 103kg recently?

If you want post up an example or two of your daily meals/nutrition.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/18/16 12:25 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Hmm, didn't you say about 103kg recently?

If you want post up an example or two of your daily meals/nutrition.


You are quite correct! That must have been a miscalculation.I work in stone/lbs and convert to kg for the purposes of this thread.Got that very wrong.

106kg is correct as of today (16.7 st).
Posted By: PV1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/20/16 08:27 AM

You have a scale that displays your weight in
decimal stone?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/20/16 09:19 AM

I think it does everything if I just knew how to operate it.The display says 16st 7lbs.I convert it to kg to make it easier to understand.You guys work in metric over there?
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/20/16 11:12 AM

Originally Posted By: PV1
You have a scale that displays your weight in
decimal stone?
It's a VERY English scale and it is approved for use by the Queen. biggrin
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/20/16 11:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
I think it does everything if I just knew how to operate it.The display says 16st 7lbs.I convert it to kg to make it easier to understand.You guys work in metric over there?


I think you are doing it wrong.

16St 7lb is 16.5St or 231lb. 104.8kg
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/20/16 11:29 AM

Originally Posted By: Lieste


I think you are doing it wrong.

16St 7lb is 16.5St or 231lb. 104.8kg


Yup,you are right.The converter I was using was expecting it in decimal.Doh! duh

Boy,do I feel dumb.

On the plus side- 104.8kg yay!
Posted By: rezerekted

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/20/16 07:00 PM

I really need to join in but am a lazy sob so won't.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 02:49 AM

So haven't been able to work out since April 19th. I got cleared to work out and then needed a root canal and it took a week to get it done.

So I was able to work out yesterday and this morning. So they had an org day with sports. I showed up to get in the swim competition for the battalion, but the team was already formed, so I went to my company and asked if I could swim with them. They had the team and even though I knew they had 3 slow guys on the 4 man team, they refused to give up a slot.

So I just watched. Our battalion's relay team included an Olympic Swimmer (I think he was an alternate if I recall correctly) and a guy who swam competitively in college and is dive certified. So they were fast.

So they ended up in first place with an 18:41 1600 yard relay.

Then my company's team got second place with 22:51.

As the second to last heat started the chaplain from 2nd Battalion was on the phone when he hung up and stated that the dive guys from 2nd Battalion had decided not to show up.

So he started recruiting from the spectators. The guy to my left says, "I can swim, but my breast stroke is faster than my free style." He looked at him and said, "Nope, you're not swimming." biggrin

So he asked if anyone could swim good. So I volunteers and 2 other guys from 3rd Battalion offered to swim.

The chaplain went first, I was anchor. Ends up he is a Tri-Athlete with his son on the Air Force Academy Swim Team. He was wicked fast, the other guys were strong swimmers, then I did mine and we ended up with 19:25 for a time. Second Place!!!!! We bumped my company to 3rd.

The sad thing is that I was so winded compared to what I was feeling like after swimming back in early April.

Well, I'm back on the workout/diet again. I'm quite proud of myself considering how little I have worked out since April 19th.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 07:56 AM

You couldn't work out because of a root canal? Army Regulations?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 08:44 AM

Still going well.102 kg today and running out of clothes to wear.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 09:34 AM

Keep going, soon you'll be down into double digits (and then stay there... smile )

I've been perilously close to my self-set limits the last weeks, so this week and next I'm sticking very strict with the 1600/day. Summer is finally here so I moved my Cardio outside.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 09:46 AM

According to my BMI I'm still obese,just a point or 2 away from just being overweight.

And of course,I'm NEVER going back.Even though the girls that serve at the chip shop do their best to entice me in when I walk past smile
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 11:12 AM

BMI isn't a great way to test. It calls heavily muscled, strong and lean people as overweight or obese (when they clearly are not), and flabby people with minimal lean tissue as 'the correct' weight, even though they are carrying unhelpful levels of body fat.

It is better IMO to not worry quite so much about weight per-se (especially as it can stabalise and/or increase while you are still being effective at reducing fat) - instead (or as well) track your hip-waist ratio (looking for waist <90% of hips) and waist-height ratio (looking for waist < 50% of height - the cutoff of morbid obesity being suggested at 63%)

It isn't ideal, but it should give insight into how you are progressing, (similar to the 'my clothes don't fit any more' test).
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 12:17 PM

Yeah I gathered it wasn't a very clear indication,just a rough guide. My clothes are telling me the true story.Luckily my younger brother had a load of clothes he gave me when he lost weight.Some are already a little loose but there are plenty left to go.

I didn't get on very well with the weights,I just don't think it's for me.I'll stick to cycling and walking for now.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 12:18 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
You couldn't work out because of a root canal? Army Regulations?


First MRSA, was an issue. I was placed under orders not to work out/go to a gym due the communicable nature of MRSA and how sweating makes it easier to spread. Then last week I was in severe pain with needing a root canal. I got it Thursday and was miserable through Friday. I then had family come to Colorado, so it's just been busy this weekend.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 12:29 PM

Well, any week you don't workout gives us mere mortals a small chance to catch up a little wink

Chucky, a very good guide to progress are body fat measurements. I use the caliper method (google for it) and it's neither tricky nor expensive. Since my weight can change a kilogram or two any day of the week for no reason I actually prefer this more to see where I#m going.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 01:46 PM

Skin fold testing only estimates the least troublesome type of fat. Subcataneous fats are not generally the *main* issue for health, rather it is the internal fats around and in organs that causes the main direct risks to health.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 01:50 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Well, any week you don't workout gives us mere mortals a small chance to catch up a little wink

Chucky, a very good guide to progress are body fat measurements. I use the caliper method (google for it) and it's neither tricky nor expensive. Since my weight can change a kilogram or two any day of the week for no reason I actually prefer this more to see where I#m going.


It was 5 weeks. frown

April 19th-May 30th. Back at it, I really need to get my run time down, I hate running...
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Lieste
Skin fold testing only estimates the least troublesome type of fat. Subcataneous fats are not generally the *main* issue for health, rather it is the internal fats around and in organs that causes the main direct risks to health.



Sounds realistic from a medical perspective, but since you are building and losing equally everywhere (I assume, since you can't direct where your body stores fat) I would say that monitoring "external" fat will also somehow monitor "internal" fat?
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 02:40 PM

I still favour direct use of waist measurement in combination with hip and height as being simple, reliable and something that correlates well with early mortality in middle ages and on.

While for the same person *at the same time*, the use of subcutaneous fat as a simulcrum of total body fat is reasonable. I'm not sure that over longer periods this would hold up well or be a basis for making a highly informed decision about the desired end state. In particular many elderly people seem to lose much of their subcutaneous fat (and muscle) while still having a large midriff. I'm fairly sure that they would have had different body composition in their middle age and youth in most cases, whether they were healthy or overweight.
Posted By: JG26 vonVampr

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
Still going well.102 kg today and running out of clothes to wear.


WTG Chucky!! Keep up the good work, it inspires us all.

I'm experiencing the same trouble with clothes. I'm down 71 lbs since March 15 and I'm running out of ways to keep wearing my "normal" clothes. I'm having a unusual problem in that I think I'm losing weight too fast, but I haven't been successful at slowing it down. I'm eating as much food as I possibly can, but without the calorie rich fats I used to eat it's very hard to slow down the weight loss.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 08:35 PM

Thanks! That's something I will have to address at some point in the future. I have no wish to return to my previous diet/meal sizes,so halting the weight loss will be another challenge I guess.

I have felt 'full up' on days where I've only consumed 1400kCals.Going back to 1800/2000 will require some thought but I'm sure someone on here has the answer.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 09:09 PM

Your requirement falls with your weight (one of the reasons that diets 'taper' is that the same intake which gives weight loss initially will taper to a lower static weight even in the absence of metabolic adaptation (starvation reflex)).

You can estimate what your final requirement might be by redoing your BMR x 1.4 at your target weight, and comparing to that for your original BMR x 1.4... which is likely to have been close to your actual habits of the past.

Bear this in mind too when evaluating progress and planning your nutrition and exercise regimes.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/16 09:53 PM

I think Lieste said it more scientific (not sure I got all of it wink ) but yeah, after a while on 1400 your body gets used to it.

At the end of a diet, what you might need to do is reverse dieting:
http://breakingmuscle.com/nutrition/reverse-dieting-what-it-is-and-why-you-should-try-it

Basically raising your intake slowly. It can also help in the middle of a long drawn out diet.

You said you didn't like the weights, but creating and maintaining muscle even trough a diet will help reduce the effects of adaption.

Bonus advice: If you can swing it, get some nice new clothes, maybe a bit on the tight side. Yes, you will "outdiet" them again as you keep going, but in my experience to get the full benefit of a slimmer body is also a mental change. I have a friend who did about the same downsizing of what you are going for, but he still doesn't have the full self-esteem which he now could easily afford... basically he thinks of himself still as the overweight dude. Enjoy the process and the feeling of getting somewhere by enjoying the ability to dress much better and look much better now, it's a reward in itself that will make the diet more fun.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/09/16 11:12 AM

99.8 KG! (15st 10lbs)

I have realised something though,my upper body strength is pretty poor.Maybe I do need to try those weights again.All this cycling has done wonders for my legs,pity the upper body doesn't match them.

*note to self* Playing computer games isn't exercise.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/09/16 11:40 AM

Get a Vive and play full room, it might be wink

What is the exact reason you dislike weights, can you specify? Maybe someone here can suggest alternatives.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/09/16 01:51 PM

I'm doing HEMA, with a focus on German Longsword (after Meyer), but with staff, grappling, dagger, sidesword and sword and buckler. I've also got my eye on a local archery club once I have finished kitting out.

Not a big fan of traditional sports, but hitting and being hit with swords is fun, and educational.

As for weights.. go shopping with bags on foot, carry the stuff home. If you are too far for that to be practical you can still park up on the opposite side of the car park or down the street rather than right by your door... and carry from there. Rowing can be fun too - we have a local boat hire on our river and it can be fun to take a snack and a friend.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/09/16 03:31 PM

Rowing? That's a thought.I used to love hiring a boat and disappearing up the river.

I don't have a real reason to not like the weights,it just looked like hard work.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/09/16 04:29 PM

Weights are better as light to moderate with lots of reps, rather than very heavy weights lifted only a few times - unless you want to train for "maximum" strength rather than a functional one. IMO. YMMV.

But then you can do it as just part of your normal routine if you walk and carry. You can use milk cartons with water (or sand if you want heavier) as makeshift free weights.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/09/16 04:55 PM

I have 2 dumbbells,8kg on each. I've seen some routines I can do so it's just about getting into it. I know I can do it,I just need a kick up the backside.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/13/16 03:21 AM

Congrats, Chucky! cheers

Give us a pic one day, it can be headless for anonymity.

++++++++++

Below is a candid blurry pic I took tonight to show workout laziness:

+ Less weight than usual and no extra reps (only 3 sets of 10 for all exercises).
+ Inadequate workout clothes
+ Poor foot form (not flat on ground)
+ Wearing Crocs? Crocs?!

LOL.

Yet *I* will probably get screamed at on my last set to give just one more. biggrin

But hey, a half-ass workout is better than none at all, right? She has yoga tomorrow night so I'll give her a pass.

EDIT: I probably wouldn't have taken that pic if not for the animals, they were cracking me up going round-and-round playing tag around the bench.

'NUTHER EDIT: I was just kidding, of course. Last night neither of us felt like working out, it was wife's turn to get us up and motivated. The second best reason to have a home gym (best reason is not having to leave your house) is that you can wear whatever you want, doesn't have to be workout clothes and tennis shoes (unless you're also running the treadmill).

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 06:00 PM

Wife discovered something last weekend that blew both our minds! eek

We were invited to another little family gathering on Saturday, this time the family of her brother's second wife. We never see her brother anymore but we're still close to his second wife and we wanted to see our nephew and meet her new husband (very nice gentleman).

Her parents have a pool and swimsuits were welcomed. Nah, I'm just not there yet, in some ways I haven't even caught up with 2009 yet (first pic).

That *after* pic is going to become a *before* pic by the end of the year, especially chest muscle definition. smile

Wife wanted to swim (first time in years) but knew that her *current* swimsuits would be too big (one piece, she's never had a bikini body). So she went digging into the containers from her mom's house, stuff we haven't gone through yet. She actually found a swimsuit that fit, but she also found something else, the bridesmaids dress for a good friend's wedding (black wedding/church - not that it matters, just FYI). It was in a bag we never opened, she had no idea she still had it.

Couldn't put it on feet first, I had to slip it over her head and it *almost* fit. Fine in the waist/hips, but could only zip it up 3/4 of the way in the back. I told her let's dry clean this sucker and if we have to, we'll add a strap in the back (about 3" across), but she HAS to wear it when we redo those pics! Clothes from our very first pic together, unfreggin' believable!

I don't have that 3-piece suit anymore (lol) but even if I did, I still had two more inches to grow. smile

I should note that as cool as it was finding that dress, she has no desire to be that size again. I'm the only one wanting to get as slim as high school, she was happy to get into triple-digit lbs. and out of size 0 (which was much smaller in the 80's than it is today). So that dress is not any kind of goal whatsoever.

I still want to retake the fireplace pic and if adding a strap at the top of the zipper is cheating, then so be it. Mom could probably do it, doesn't have to be perfect, it's not like she wants to start wearing a frilly 80's dress again. smile

The whole weekend just fired me up to improve my efforts before I get left too far behind.

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Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 06:11 PM

You look like a cast member from the film "Wall Street". biggrin
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 06:18 PM

I spent the weekend going through all my clothes.All the stuff I had at the beginning of the year is now too big to wear.Just about all of it has gone to the old clothes collection bin in the local Tesco car-park. I did this because I'm NOT going back!

I've been wearing my brother's hand-me-downs for a while but even they are getting a little loose.I do have a few things that have been hanging in the wardrobe for I guess 10 years that I can wear.Never thought I'd ever be wearing some of those again.Not sure if they are still in style though...

I HATE buying new clothes.I don't have a clue about style or colours.I was too tight to buy a new belt so I made a few extra holes in the one I have and trimmed it down a bit.

I really need a responsible adult to take me clothes shopping.I never thought I'd be saying that at 56.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 07:03 PM

Other than a few concert T's, these are among the last *new* clothes I've purchased (first pic). biggrin

Mine is the larger white one, wife picked out the black "V" collar.

I clothes shop at Goodwills and thrift stores, all except for the very rare suit which I'll buy at Men's Wearhouse when they're running a sale (buy one get another half price).

I told my wife she should go crazy with her wardrobe/shoes/whatever, just leave me out of it. She couldn't resist and bought me a $60.00 shirt to sweat in (next two pics).

Eh, just...no. All of her yoga/workout clothes have that little horseshoe symbol (I can't find a brand name) and I figure it's all expensive. And that's fine, I want her to spend money on herself, but I don't need this.

Ok, the one shirt I can live with (and I do appreciate the thought). Also, I promised to buy a tux when I get there, I might even buy some new Levi's. She still shops the thrift stores with me so it's cool.

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Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 07:05 PM

Wow, your wife owns and wears a SimHQ t-shirt?? She truly IS a keeper.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Wow, your wife owns and wears a SimHQ t-shirt?? She truly IS a keeper.

As long as she never sees *some* of the stuff I've posted here. wink
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 07:40 PM

Great going Chucky! Can't be that hard to find something stylish for you. Dressing well and looking good in the stuff is such a benefit of working out.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 08:40 PM

Absolutely! Even at the weight I'm at now I am happy in a t-shirt out walking.I know I still look over-weight but compared to what I was I couldn't be happier.

The problem is I spent my working life in mechanic's overalls.I didn't own a proper suit until the late 90's.I've always dressed casual,or comfortable as I like to put it.

Luckily my sister-in-law is a great clothes shopper and I'm house-sitting for them at the end of the month.When they return from holiday I will ask her to take me shopping.She doesn't know I've lost weight,that will surprise her I think.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 09:49 PM

Why do some white people wear a light blue shirt and khakis on occasion?

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Race aside, people (often business people) who wear blue shirts and khakis generally don't have much taste and aren't interested in dressing stylishly and/or adopting a personal style. So in other words:

Fashion is simply not important to them.

They have no confidence or capability in judging what looks good.
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LOL. <Raises hand> Guilty!

To summarize that link, the average white dude simply has no sense of style. smile

Making matters worse, I noticed on my most recent pic (where I'm standing behind my wife) that my pants are way too long and bunched up at my feet. Man, my boring clothes don't even fit right.

Good luck, Chucky. Sister-in-law, eh? I might recruit my older sister to help me/wife out (seven years older but stays in shape and dresses fashionably).
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 09:59 PM

She has to cope with my brother who has equal fashion sense as me.She nicknamed us the 'beige brothers' because that was what we would buy if we went shopping on our own.That or grey.

She introduced us to something called 'colour'.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 10:46 PM

That's a good idea Chucky, get someone in your family to help you.

Fashion is hard for me to describe, but I'll be out shopping or whatever and I know it when I see it. "Four o'clock!" (sometimes I have to remind her that means to look discreetly to the right and slightly behind). The top, jeans, boots, now that right there is what I'm talking about! yep

Same with men, I can tell when some straight dude (assuming) just knows how to dress well. Which reminds me, I keep putting this off but I need to go back to the cologne thread and take note again of the recommendations.

I was pushing hard on the fashion and makeup/eye stuff and was told to back off, that it'll all be squared away by 50. Ok then.

What I'm not so sure of is where do men normally shop for clothes? I wonder, once you acquire a sense of style (with help from a sister/sister-in-law), can you find a decent look at Goodwills and thrift stores (usually used clothing)? Or do you wait for a sale at Macy's/Richie's, stick to Sears/JC Penney, hit an outlet shopping center, Walmart? Where to go?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/15/16 10:56 PM

I have absolutely no idea.I hate going in to town,I hate clothes shopping even more.I do know that Marks and Spencers is expensive.Do you have them over there?

Help,I just want to go back to a pair of overalls. *cowers in the corner sucking thumb*
Posted By: Legend

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 03:52 AM

Originally Posted By: MarkG
[...]



Eh, just...no. All of her yoga/workout clothes have that little horseshoe symbol (I can't find a brand name) and I figure it's all expensive. And that's fine, I want her to spend money on herself, but I don't need this.

Ok, the one shirt I can live with (and I do appreciate the thought). Also, I promised to buy a tux when I get there, I might even buy some new Levi's. She still shops the thrift stores with me so it's cool.


Try Omega shirts wink
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 05:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Legend
Originally Posted By: MarkG
[...]



Eh, just...no. All of her yoga/workout clothes have that little horseshoe symbol (I can't find a brand name) and I figure it's all expensive. And that's fine, I want her to spend money on herself, but I don't need this.

Ok, the one shirt I can live with (and I do appreciate the thought). Also, I promised to buy a tux when I get there, I might even buy some new Levi's. She still shops the thrift stores with me so it's cool.


Try Omega shirts wink


I asked. It's called Lululemon...
http://shop.lululemon.com/

Symbol looks similar to Omega though.
Posted By: Legend

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 05:50 AM

Originally Posted By: MarkG


I asked. It's called Lululemon...
http://shop.lululemon.com/

Symbol looks similar to Omega though.



Ah... the logo is based on Diana Rigg's 'Avengers' hair...
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 06:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
I have absolutely no idea.I hate going in to town,I hate clothes shopping even more.I do know that Marks and Spencers is expensive.Do you have them over there?

Help,I just want to go back to a pair of overalls. *cowers in the corner sucking thumb*

No Marks and Spencers around here that I know of, I've never heard of them.

What I do know is I could take the $65.00 (I was off by 5 bucks) she spent on that shirt and buy workout clothes for every day of the week at my favorite thrift store (a big one in Baton Rouge, LA)!

Hey, don't forget the Calvin Klein underwear! biggrin
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 11:05 AM

I believe Marks and Spencers is a UK-only department store.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 02:20 PM

I did some research this morning (while the coffee dripped) on men's fashion. I'm convinced that men aren't really suppose to have fashion.

Here's all you need for nights out on the town...

+ A couple pair or so of new dark Levi's (they still make 501s?)
+ A couple pair or so of light Levi's (or Wrangler, I guess) to wear with your black concert T's (contrast).
+ A couple or so new dark patterned (not solid colored) dress shirts.
+ A leather belt and plain white socks (ones that you don't mow grass with).
+ A pair of Hushpuppies or Penny Loafers (they still make these?) and a pair of white tennis shoes.

+ At least one nice tailor fitted suit and a couple of silk ties, along with a pair of classic wingtips.

Pecks, biceps and a slim waistline are your fashion, all that other crap just allows you to depart your home with a little style and without getting arrested. biggrin

Also, you don't need Calvin Klein drawers, just buy a pack of gray or black Hanes (like it matters). My comfortable faded white partly detached waistband "Homer Simpson drawers" have mysteriously disappeared one-by-one so I conceded this one "fashion statement".

My new wardrobe is mostly coming out of a very long retirement (apparently there was a time when I did give a damn how I dressed), short sleeve 2-3 button collard shirts with little alligators and tigers sewn in the front. smile

Or you could get a little creative (first pic).

For women, geez...I'm so still stuck in the 80's (second pic).

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Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 02:25 PM

Originally Posted By: MarkG
I've always wondered about those odd "high brow" fashion shows and the clothes they show.


Who the hell actually dresses like that in real life?


Cute Asian girl by the way in that other link. smile
Posted By: Jayhawk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Who the hell actually dresses like that in real life?


Dart does. Helps him generate lift when flying his home-built plane. biggrin biggrin
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 02:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Jayhawk
Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
Who the hell actually dresses like that in real life?


Dart does. Helps him generate lift when flying his home-built plane. biggrin biggrin


That guy looks like a failed cosplay attempt at Samurai Jack.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/16 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Cute Asian girl by the way in that other link. smile


One more, for the love of the 80's (not Asian though, and there's a similar one with a lace-trimmed top, darker jeans and higher boots. I've looked but have never found it.



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Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/21/16 09:02 AM

Things seem to have slowed down a bit and this is what I feared.I'm still going for it,especially riding/walking but I stopped counting calories.That and a couple of birthday parties and buffet food didn't help.

Back to the calorie counting this week then!

Still a loss though...now 98kg (15st 6lbs).By my reckoning that will be 22kg (3.5st) lost.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/21/16 06:55 PM

For US, you weigh 216 lbs. and have lost 46 lbs. That's really good, Chucky. thumbsup

I could never do calorie counting or anything other than just trying to eat better and exercise more. I know that apps and PX90 and all that stuff actually work, I just don't have it in me to follow a formal plan so my fitness/weight loss probably isn't as efficient.

I never worry about falling off the wagon anymore, I can have a +3 lbs. splurge day and I get over it by the next morning (every morning is a new start).

Sometimes I look back at my old weight chart from 2008/09 (see pic below, weighed in every Sunday morning) to remind myself that sometimes I gain even as I'm trying to lose.

Or I'll hit a serious plateau...

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03/22/09 216 lbs.
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It happens. I don't let it bother me because I know I'm doing the right thing and eventually I'll get there. I just can't seem to get out of the 190s right now (wife is now well below the chart) but it is harder at 48 than it was at 41 (I started recording on my 41st BD after we both had lost a good bit of weight [from 265+ lbs. / 143 lbs.]).

I'm posting this chart again to show that you really can't pay TOO much attention to the scale on a regular basis, just too much fluctuation.

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Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/21/16 10:22 PM

Tomorrow I start knocking out workouts again. Been so crazy busy, worked the last 2 weekends in a row and still no comp days. I did get a coin today at work, so that is a plus.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/22/16 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Timothy
Tomorrow I start knocking out workouts again. Been so crazy busy, worked the last 2 weekends in a row and still no comp days. I did get a coin today at work, so that is a plus.


Your birthday (or the day after) is a good time to get back to it! thumbsup

happy_bday

What are you again, 22? biggrin
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/22/16 03:07 AM

Originally Posted By: MarkG
Originally Posted By: Timothy
Tomorrow I start knocking out workouts again. Been so crazy busy, worked the last 2 weekends in a row and still no comp days. I did get a coin today at work, so that is a plus.


Your birthday (or the day after) is a good time to get back to it! thumbsup

happy_bday

What are you again, 22? biggrin


I wish, I'm almost double that. Most would say I'm in good shape, but for my standards, I'm really out of shape.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/22/16 11:42 AM

Coin?
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/30/16 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
Hi all,

As in the New Year's Resolution topic discussed, here's your chance to share, shame, be shamed, find encouragement or simple check what others are doing in regards to nutrition and exercise. We've seen a lot of threads touching this, why not combine it.


Listen up, girls! Today ends the first half of 2016 (going by months) and it's time to get freggin' serious!

My Mrs. is going to bring home a giant fried seafood platter for the four of us to split tonight, while I suck down my last Dr. Peppers of the year (drinking sodas for three days now). Tomorrow morning we're beginning the month of July (second half of the year) with a six month "boot camp" mentality!

I mention my dearest wife allot on these threads because we are a team, together we fail or succeed. I have neither the willpower nor the stamina to do it alone (unless I really *was* alone, maybe). This is our last full year in our 40's so there's a sense of urgency about it for us now.

Hell, even my 76-year old mother (after serious back surgeries) is using my weight bench to do leg lifts (can you believe that?)! I've noticed my father is also using my weights more (mainly dumb bell curls) and we're all eating allot better overall. Lifestyle (good or bad) is contagious.

Both pics taken a couple of days ago or so in a Houston hotel room and gym (that was my idea as we were leaving the hotel). biggrin

Anyway, these will be part of the "before pics" by the end of the year, that belly you see on me will be gone forever!

Soo... Let's do it!

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Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/30/16 12:49 PM

Your wife looks much younger than her age Mark! You did well. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/30/16 12:57 PM

Thanks. Since 2008, she's been allot more consistent with healthier eating and exercise than I have. I'm inspired sometimes by her drive and determination to not slip up too badly as I've done many times since. At my age now I just can't afford to do that anymore.
Posted By: PFunk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/02/16 01:57 PM

Okay, gents. I started this endeavor on April 23rd.

As of today, I am officially 20 pounds lighter.

Mark, you and the missus look awesome. Keep it up.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/02/16 02:37 PM

That's a great effort PFunk,well done.

The next 2 weeks will be hard for me,I'm on holiday and intend to enjoy myself somewhat.

Still,the scales said 95kg this morning so I'm still heading the right way.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/02/16 06:34 PM

Still in the early stages of learning German Longsword.
We do solo drills, paired drills and light sparring to cover aspects of the Meyer style of fencing.

Recent photos from drilling and free sparring. Ochs drills and a Zornhau...


Posted By: PFunk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/02/16 11:12 PM

That is just so friggin cool.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/11/16 09:43 PM

Yay! Just passed grading for the Longsword 101b and 101a class (which completes the basic core course). Not quite a perfect grading, but 95% plus ok, and slightly wide ending positions on the cuts and some uncertainty about technical terms in German being the biggest faults.

My friend who started with 101b turned up and she passed grading on that segment too, but everyone else failed to turn up... not sure why.

She'll go on to do 101a now while I'll continue with refining the techniques and extending them with more devices to use from the Zufechs and in Kreig.

Just splashed out on a new Regeniye Federschwert, and have some custom gloves from Poland on order. Need a Gambeson before I can free spar with the steel, but I can do drills with it solo or (very controlled) with a partner already.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/12/16 11:32 AM

Cool way to exercise, for sure!
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/14/16 07:31 AM

Just back off 2 week holiday,not surprised to see I put on 3 lbs.

I was doing an energetic coastal walk twice a day at first but then injuries hit and I was no longer able to easily get up the steep paths.

Ah well,back to it this week.Not going to give up.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/14/16 09:41 AM

3lbs is nothing. You'll put it off in no time.

Considering weights again?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/14/16 10:01 AM

Yeah,it shouldn't take long,I'm really annoyed with myself about it.At least now I'm home I can get back into my routine again.

The weights my friend lent me didn't get used much.He's getting them back this week.I think I got more exercise carrying them to and from the car and up the steps to my flat tbh.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/20/16 02:49 PM

That fencing stuff is crazy cool and exotic! thumbsup

Small update, about half an inch off the waist since Houston, both of us.

Monday afternoon we had dental cleanings (same hygienist, back-to-back appointments, a little competition we have going). They check blood pressure as part of the appointment, mine hit an all-time low for sitting in a dentist chair...117/77. I have a physical coming up the end of August (BD) and I'm trying to get off the meds completely, we'll see. But for sitting in "the chair" (even if just for x-rays and cleaning), that's really good for me!

Another accomplishment, wife can no longer lap me on the 1/4m track (up to 12 laps - 3 miles). Oh, she tries (we walk more than run right now, too hot and humid) and she comes close (about 20 yards behind me) but she can't quite catch me, and that's without me cheating (running across before reaching the curve). That's one bit of trash talking I don't have to listen to on the drive home. biggrin

My abdominal/rib aches and pains have all but disappeared, but not the tennis elbow in my right arm, which is setting me back a little on the weights while I rest it. Hope it goes away on its own.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/20/16 03:07 PM

LOL, my blood pressure inside ANY doctor office certainly exceeds that. By a mile.

I keep being reminded how much of the daily weight check is water. Did a hot bathtub recently to clear a head cold, and spent the next days at least 1kg lighter in the morning.

I'm wondering how to increase my situp resistance but I don't have suitable weights over 6kg to hold behind the neck. Don't really want to spend money.

For those who want to do some outdoor cardio but find running too boring, consider Kick Scooters. I always enjoyed them, but found out recently that it's a good almost full-body workout.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/20/16 03:29 PM

That's really good.

I ache all over after my first hard drilling with the Feder. An hour one on one with the instructor doing master strikes in the onset - specifically a diagonal cut that ends with the hands low and far in front of your original position, with an offline step away from the threat leaving the defender safe from all 4 cuts from his left (the most common initial attacks), and the point buried into the side of the opponent's mask in a single tempo...

The combination of heat (just under 30C and 94% humidity) and the much heavier weapon was really hard going...

The Feder is 1.45kg, compared to 0.81kg for the synthetic, though the balance is a bit more to the rear, so the point is slightly easier to move around (and it doesn't hit that much harder with the foible). Still, it does have more momentum, both to perform your actions and to take out of his.

Hopefully the really hot/humid evenings won't last all summer (as a rule we don't have any air-conditioning), and I should rapidly get used to the extra weight and needs of structure in the parry.

By the time the weather cools down I'll have a complete set of protection and can optionally free spar with steel as well as the synthetics we can use already.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/20/16 03:51 PM

Videos, we want videos smile
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/20/16 04:05 PM

When I have some I'll share it. duel
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 02:52 PM

After a number of setbacks, I just was able to start running this month. I was required to do a surprise PT test, 15:29 was my time. Not bad for 2 rebuilt knees, 4 bolts and 2 grafts. I also did 75 push-ups and 67 sit-ups (I never do sit-ups, I do planks and flutter kicks).

Not perfect, but damn good if I say so myself.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 02:56 PM

Wow, nice stats. 15:29 for which distance?

Curious, the Africa accident was the other knee? I always kinda assumed it was your original trouble leg.

On a personal note: Hurrah I stopped counting calories. Seems my body is now decently adjusted to the amount of food it needs (same weight for months), so the new method is called "Eating when Hungry".
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 03:20 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Wow, nice stats. 15:29 for which distance?

Curious, the Africa accident was the other knee? I always kinda assumed it was your original trouble leg.

On a personal note: Hurrah I stopped counting calories. Seems my body is now decently adjusted to the amount of food it needs (same weight for months), so the new method is called "Eating when Hungry".



My left elbow had 2 surgeries, my right leg had a rebuilt knee which wouldn't have been bad, but I ended up with MRSA in the knee and it took a year to get the left over low grade infection gone. My right leg also had an avulsion fracture in the 5th metatarsal and a 300 pound pallet dropped on my foot that destroyed my ligaments.

The Africa accident was my left knee.

Twenty two surgeries and I'm still a beast. Anyone can me, you just got to want it. wink
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 03:33 PM

You sound like a MotoGP rider's medical biography wink And hey, delete some PMs. Was going to ask you something smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 03:50 PM

You guys are inspiring! thumbsup

I was wondering about distance as well. On the cushy treadmill with A/C and multiple fans blowing on me (2 floor and 1 ceiling), I can usually cover 5k (3.1 miles) in just under 45 min. (mostly a slow paced jog). At my absolute best (with some real running mixed in, setting 5.2 or better), around 42 min., IIRC. I'll post treadmill display pics once my ISP problems are resolved.

On pavement however (and usually on a hot and humid day), anything under 45 min. is a great "run", usually it's more like around 50 min. (running only in the shade). These times won't impress the runners here, especially those who run for more than 3 miles.

EDIT: Treadmill is at a 1.0 incline, helps with balance for some reason.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 05:52 PM

I'd guess at 3.22km/2mile.

I am not a very good runner but can do our local parkrun (5km) with a steep incline part way through in 24 minutes. My walking pace is 41 minutes for the same distance, or 52km in sub 8hours.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
You sound like a MotoGP rider's medical biography wink And hey, delete some PMs. Was going to ask you something smile


Done! I would love to hear from you, been so crazy busy. I am trying to drop to a 7 minute mile pace for a 35 minute 5 mile (8 clicks).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 06:17 PM

Wow, Lieste. You run 5k in 24 min. and walk it in 41 min.? You must be pretty tall with a long stride! smile

Years of obesity induced gout did a number on my feet (mainly big toe joints) so I have to take it easy, and I'm still putting too much weight on my feet. I'd like to have at least one official sub-30 min. time (wearing numbers/chip and recorded on website). If I work hard enough and continue loosing weight, maybe one day I can even rank high in the 50+ age bracket (13 months to go).

I much prefer walking though. Wife wears a pedometer always (a work thing, she gets Amazon Cash for steps) and on a recent Houston getaway, we exceeded 10,000 steps per day (mostly outdoor/mall window shopping). It was fun, but on the track and treadmill I have to be fueled by my tunes, the right music and you *have* to move.

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Timothy is a machine!
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 07:17 PM

I'm 5'5"

I walk with a moderate stride but a high stride rate. Same with running. Higher stride rate, not too long a flight between steps.

I never do any treadmill or stationary bike stuff... seems too dull (and also for the same reason not anything on track). I tend to walk just to and from town, or loop around town via the countryside and footpaths/green lanes/minor roads to go to and from places I need to be. Nothing to stop a 4km walk there and back turning into a 20-40km loop, except for not always wanting to... With the longer distances you can vary the same journey, covering nearly all of the alternatives over the course of time. I map up all the more interesting ones, and then deliberately head off on the ones I've so far not managed to cover...

With the 10,000 steps thing... is that steps or double steps? I don't own a pedometer (though I do use a mapping GPS unit (actually a bicycle headunit) to record routes I don't think it's pedometer function is useful (it doesn't record the track, only the number of 'steps' taken, and I disagree with all of it's calculations as being flat out wrong for me... as well as physically non sensical). Still the track records are useful for mapping and for looking at "maximal" efforts (such as ascent of steep slopes at a max-heartrate effort - there are plenty of slopes that I can reach that while walking up around here (some 40% footpaths, and several streets at 25% plus)
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 08:48 PM

So, you're a seasoned walker/runner then. Those times are excellent, IMO.

About treadmill, track and stationary bikes being boring...

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"Give me the beat boys and free my soul
I wanna get lost in your rock n' roll
And drift away"
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They would be unbearable to me without the tunes, I have to lose myself in music (past/present/future). At least that's how it works for me, without headphone music I'm a slug.

Lately I find my mind wondering more into the present and future than the past, and that's an awesome feeling. I just have to stay aware enough not to fall off the treadmill (helps to keep your eyes opened). smile I do wear the magnetic safety stop cord clipped to my shorts.

I prefer the track because it's outdoors (we try to do 12 laps [3 miles] on the track every evening) but it's not always possible (rain, working late) so the treadmill is good backup for an evening walk/run.

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I'm not sure how accurate her pedometer is or even how it works, except that steps in this case equals virtual money. I don't know how much she gets for x number of steps, though.

We've never been very scientific about any of it, we try sometimes (e.g. calorie counting) but it never lasts. If I'm not where I want to be by 50 then I'm going to have to figure out the numbers, instead of just winging it (eating healthy and exercising daily in general). I do believe I've fried my metabolism or whatever, if I had put the effort in at 25 that I'm doing now approaching 49, I'd be seeing *much* better results. Wife seems to have gotten her metabolism and energy levels back where they were a long time ago, I never had those genes.

EDIT: Basing comments on times we walk long distance without our iPod Shuffles, she easily outpaces me.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/26/16 09:16 PM

Timothy, 7 Minute Mile for 5 Miles is very impressive for someone with your muscle mass...

I absolutly suck at running and respect all of you who go out and do it - it's just not any motivation or inspiration to me. Seeing that I only do ~5min to the Kilometer for the push scooter I really need to speed that up I guess wink
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/27/16 03:10 AM

RS, you're right. Timothy doesn't have a typical runner's body (power vs. speed). Maybe he's part bionic. smile
Posted By: PFunk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/31/16 03:41 AM

Weigh in today was 157 pounds, down from 183 in April.

It's working. Goal is 150, but I'm okay with 155.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/31/16 11:56 AM

Nice job! Getting new clothes already?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/31/16 12:18 PM

It's worth it isn't it PFunk smile

I have yet to re-equip my wardrobe,I'm still managing with younger brothers stuff and some of my own stuff I never threw out from years ago but slowly even that is getting a little on the loose side.

I'm dreading clothes shopping when I hit my goal,I just ain't got no style!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/31/16 07:54 PM

I bet PFunk being under 160 lbs. feels like he has a spring connected to his ass that pops him out of bed in the morning! Feels soooo good on the feet too, eh?

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Guys, make sure to take pics of yourself along your weight loss journey, even if you never intend to post them. You can always go back to remember where you came from and where you're going if you backslide.

Again, my all-time favorite WORST pic, a candid shot taken by my mom inside of my sister's house at her daughter's wedding (first pic, 9/06).

That was also my last pic where I'm wearing a wedding ring. I lost it later in a Jax. FL Target, it slipped off and rolled under the aisle shelves and we couldn't find it, even with the help of an employee using a broom. The lesson here is that your entire body shrinks, even your fingers, so if you wear a ring you need to be careful and get it resized if necessary. I never replaced mine but I'm going to as soon as I reach my final goal.

Also reposting one of my BEST pics, from 2009 (second pic).

As you can see, the face also shrinks (third pic)

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2009 vs. last month (fourth and fifth pics).

EDIT: Same tie and shirt. Geez I need some new clothes.

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/01/16 08:03 AM

Definitely looks more healthy now Mark.
Posted By: PFunk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/01/16 10:57 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Nice job! Getting new clothes already?


Yes, and I have to tell you a Texas-themed story. Here in Texas, the preferred denim jeans that most country boys like me wear are Wrangler 13MWZ boot cut pants. They're solid, and you can drag em' behind a pickup and they won't wear out.

So, I bought a couple of pairs a few months ago to replace ones I'd had for 5 years (that's about how long a pair will last). Now that I've lost weight, the ones I bought in April fit like a saggy diaper right out of the washing machine. So, I had to buy two more pairs last week!

Anyone need two pairs of very gently used 34-inch waist, 32-inch inseam Wranglers?
Posted By: PFunk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/02/16 01:47 AM




Taken two hours ago. Jeanie's lost 27 pounds.

@ MarkG, you have no idea how good it feels. I had no idea how sick I was until I lost the weight. I picked up a 25 pound bag of dog food the other day and realized, "I was carrying this around on my body a few months ago."
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/02/16 07:42 AM

Nice job, both of you. Now for the extra benefits get some weights wink

My early warning radar is ringing, quite gently but still saying that I'm starting to put on again. Gonna cut most of the sweet stuff down until my birthday in one month, been lazy with my diet during the relaxed summer days... and maybe try to ban the sweet habit for good or replace it with something else.
Posted By: PFunk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/02/16 07:58 PM

I don't know what the hell I'm gonna do when watermelon is out of season. We've eaten about a dozen or more this summer. I've gotten into fresh fruit for breakfast.

We stopped buying the mass-produced bread like Mrs. Bairds and so forth, we only buy bakery-made bread in small loaves. I still love good bread and we can still eat it, but I have to be very careful with only 1,500 calories to work with in a day. If I want that extra ham sammich, I gotta earn it.

Since we live on a lake, I've really starting swimming a lot in addition to walking about six miles a day. That's what Jeanie and I were doing yesterday. Much, much better for you than running.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/02/16 09:01 PM

Hell yes, I'd be swimming a mile a day if I had a lake for myself. 1500kcal is a hard goal, congrats. 1600 is my current allowance.

Bought dried tomatoes, pickled cucumbers and similar stuff to get me trough the day.

It's actually fascinating, if you listen to your body closely, how often you want to eat something either for being bored, or because of clocktime ("everyone has luch at noon"). I've stopped feeling obligated to eat with my workmates for that very reason. Abd so it pays to have low-cal snacks ready for when you want to munch something.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/10/16 08:55 PM

Dayum, that's totally awesome, PFunk! thumbsup
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/10/16 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
Nice job, both of you. Now for the extra benefits get some weights wink

Yup. I have a couple pics already on this thread of my Mickey Mouse vinyl weights and bench, plus dumb bells and a few accessories. It's all we've needed so far, although we're still shopping for an upgrade (also a squat bench). We'll never be gym rat types (~45 min. workouts, twice a week) but I'll tell you this...

If my wife knew at 30 what she now knows at 48 about weight training (see pic below), she would have hit the weights 20 years ago! *That's* how you "put some meat on them bones" (meat meaning muscle, not fat...like a good steak)! biggrin Not freggin' cheeseburgers which will only give an older skinny gal a pot belly and cholesterol problem. No, hit the weights instead, even causally!

She eventually put on weight (too much for her frame) in her mid-30's when her metabolism tanked overnight (long time diet of fast/fried food, pizza, airport Cinnabons and regular Cokes), but now weightlifting is helping her measurements continue to shrink without really dropping anymore weight. I guess that's because muscle weighs more than fat for the same volume? She's happy because she doesn't ever want to be underweight again (min. 109.5 lbs. [49.66 kg] = BMI: 18.5) but she also wants no stomach fat (heart/cardiology concerns). Besides, she's always hated her boney arms (compare with pic a few pages back). Weightlifting is where it's at!

It's interesting to watch, I still have so much body fat to get rid of that I can't really tell a difference except that I'm losing flab under my arms. My arms are getting stronger although they're not getting any bigger yet when I flex and take a measurement, just better defined. But then I'm still losing weight so wife and I are not at the same place yet.

The big tests coming up, MAJOR cardiology tests for her (she did the blood work part this morning) and then full physicals for both of us. Not really sexy to think about, but those numbers are what define our health.

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Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/08/16 07:30 AM

Time for an update,and to check how others are doing.

92.5 kg (14st 8lbs) *started at 121kg (19+ st)

I've decided to give the dumbbells a go because I really need to work on my upper body a little.I bought a set of 4kg ones that are much more compact than the ones my mate gave me.They are easier to work with and should give me a moderate work-out.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/08/16 09:05 AM

Hey Chucky, thanks for resurrecting the thread and congrats on that achievement!

If you're looking for upper body definition (chest) then also consider bench dips and pushup variations, Google is full of suggestions.

My own chest is slightly under-trained because I keep doing "dirty" pushups. Smaller breast muscle is amazing defined from the dips, but the larger one isn't biting when I hurry the exercises. So that's my next goal.

I'm still very, very happy right now with my shape. I dropped to 1600kcal/day a month before my birthday, found it easy to maintain and now I'm 4kg off my set limit and at somewhere of 13.5% body fat. Might keep a lower kcal diet for now, it's not really hurting my enjoyment.


Last weekend I broke my total personal best at the racetrack and set the laptime I had been aiming at, training hard for five years. I had a near highsider the next lap but rode the bike trough gravel and grass and saved it. Consequently I was super emotional and happy when I came back for lunch break - and I also like that pic because even bent over you can see some abs definition, which is certainly not the average for a guy of 35. I look around here at work and I'm beating most other dudes in shape, easily.


Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/30/16 12:50 PM

Someone had bumped this thread (posts lost in the interruption), got me thinking about it...

Again, good job Chucky and lookin' good, RSColonel_131st! wink

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I turned 49 last month, wife turns 49 next week, our goal now is to finish what we started in our early 40's (she's close, I have a ways to go). At our age, we're paying closer attention to family history and the numbers on our blood work vs. the scale and tape measure. Our annual physicals this year were postponed due to the flooding, we still need to reschedule.

My last numbers were...

GLU: 94
ALT: 27
CHOL: 222
TRI: 134
HDL: 42
LDL: 154

I have to watch my glucose which is up a couple points from the year before, and diabetes runs rampant in my family. Oddly enough there's not much obesity on my side, my mom's parents were thin with diabetes, my father isn't overweight with mild diabetes (averages 120 every morning, low dosage Metformin).

I just want to get off blood pressure meds, then I'll be med-free for the time being.

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Wife just got back some of her numbers, those related to heart (insurance won't test twice within a year, so glucose gets tested at physical [always low]).

Her recent numbers (compared w/last year)...

GLU: ?
ALT: 9 (23)
CHOL: 230 (223)
TRI: 113 (135)
HDL: 70 (62)
LDL: 137 (134)

Her cardiologist is pleased overall. While total and LDL (bad) are up, HDL (good) [is up] and triglycerides are down, and that to him is a good tradeoff. Big tests (treadmill stress and nuclear) in a couple of weeks. She's been off Lipitor for a few years now, will remain med-free for at least another year.

Her family history is a deceased father at age 32 (heart attack in his sleep, although *very* thin), siblings/late-mother with diabetes and/or high cholesterol (all obese, at least Class II [BMI over 35]).

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For our 50th BD's next year, we're going to treat ourselves to...

...colonoscopies!

Oh boy, can't wait! biggrin Some places have virtual ones now, you still have to do the at-home cleanout but it works like an x-ray vs. a probe. Unfortunately, you take a chance of a having a repeat if they find something they want to snip.

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EDIT: Since my Downtown Baton Rouge pics are lost (9/20/16), I'm going to post my favorite ones here. Spent the day walking my ass off, over 15,000 steps including lots of stairs...


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Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/30/16 03:01 PM

I've had a few colonoscopies. The last one I decided to take without a sedative as I wanted to leave asap.Boy,it was ok until he had to turn a corner.I was nearly off the table. Not trying to put you off or anything biggrin

Luckily I was worrying about nothing,all clear.

Just hit 92kg so tonight I'm having a treat.I've invited Ben and Jerry over (screw it,I'll cycle that off in the morning).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/30/16 03:40 PM

Enjoy that ice cream, Chucky! I'm going to splurge on a couple of vodka shots tonight, something I rarely do anymore (last time was to enhance the illusion that I was at my first Led Zeppelin concert biggrin ).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/30/16 04:03 PM

I hit Submit too fast...

Originally Posted By: Chucky
I've had a few colonoscopies. The last one I decided to take without a sedative as I wanted to leave asap.Boy,it was ok until he had to turn a corner.I was nearly off the table. Not trying to put you off or anything biggrin

Luckily I was worrying about nothing,all clear.


I've driven my father a couple of times the past few years (they're always snipping, turns out to be nothing bad) and he's a big baby, so if he can deal I *know* I can! smile But yeah, I want to be put under (or twilight, I think they call it).

To me that would be like getting drilled on by the dentist without the gas (and pleasure, I actually kinda like it). eek
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/30/16 04:45 PM

I also took an upper endoscopy without sedative too,that was very unnerving at first.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/01/16 06:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
I also took an upper endoscopy without sedative too,that was very unnerving at first.


Back in 2008, after my first dental cleaning (which took two appointments because my gums were so unhealthy and teeth so sensitive that the novocaine wasn't very effective), I had my first root canal. Bottom molar, biggest tooth in my mouth. Halfway through the procedure the oral surgeon stopped, said the tooth was too far gone and needed extraction.

Before he started the root canal, he let me know they were out of nitrous and did I want to reschedule? I told my wife I better do this now because there was a chance I was never coming back! HUGE mistake, I have to be sedated to get through any kind of evasive/painful procedure! My current dentist knows I'll do just fine, as long as he keeps the gas flowing while the music in my ears is drowning out his torture devices!

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I had a great time last night (concert) as I knew I would, but I can't keep this pace while skirting obesity. My energy levels and my feet can no longer take it, I have to finish what I started. Dec. 31 on this thread, pics will be coming (a little extra motivation to put up or shut up smile ).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/04/16 03:05 PM

We picked out our next new toy, might go pick it up this evening...

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Main difference between this one and the one we have now (besides capacity and gripping width) is that it has a squat station. I can handle/spot her squat weight without a station but she can't reciprocate. This still isn't a professional gym quality bench but it's probably all we'll ever need.

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Nice talk last night, mainly about why I'm not progressing with weight/inches. New iron weights/bench should take care of strength, but I'm not doing so well with eating...apparently. Once again the biggest culprit is nuts, I can't keep my hand out of the cashew/trail mix jar. It doesn't seem that bad to me, but she's noticed we're going through the containers way too fast.

Costco sized (first pic). So we're going to take more drastic measures, she's keeping the nuts (also Craisins, raisins, prunes, plums, etc.) in her office and making me little daily snack bags like I was doing before (second pic).

Also, for the first time we're going to start calorie counting. I've turned my eating completely over to my slimmer half and she's going to help me track my intake (and no, I'm not going to cheat). But she's also agreed to not bring home anymore 'crap' (leftovers from office dinners, functions), including Mellow Mushroom pizza. Her cholesterol is also still on the high side and with her family history, we both should be eating better.

That said, the cooler weather is making evening walks/runs so much more enjoyable.

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/04/16 08:34 PM

How drastic/exact do you want to count? I usually round out to the nearest 100kcal.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/04/16 10:13 PM

I'm not really sure. I've already screwed up my first day by forgetting to write everything down. It's probably going to take me a couple of days or so to get into the habit.

Two more things she's noticed: I'm hitting the cheese and hummus more than I think (again, Costco large bulk size, roll up a slice of Swiss and dip it into roasted red pepper hummus...yumm). Also, my nightly spoon of peanut butter (Peter Pan, to pill the dog, I eat the rest) keeps getting bigger. I concede that one, a bad habit I've started. Not to mention that I'm spending more time on my studies and game, now drinking way too much coffee probably (Sugar In The Raw and lots of half-&-half). It's probably a combination of those things, plus the nuts.

I'll start again tomorrow, measuring and writing down everything I eat and drink (a real PITA, IMO). How accurate I want to be, I just don't know yet.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/05/16 08:14 AM

Okay, if you are snacking a lot it's tricky and you need to be detailed.

Might have mentioned it before, my system is easy.

I just write down the date, and the hundreds of kcal rounded to nearest. So for example

04.10. 4+6+2+3+1

In this example the 4 is the 400 from a Muffin in the morning, the 600 is from chicken with vegetables and cashews at noon, the 2 is a doughnut in the afternoon, 3 are the protein bars after training, and 1 are two pieces of chocolate in the evening. That would be 1600kcal total which is on the low side for my needs.

I can either guess or already know from memory most "standard meals".

Now if you are snacking a lot in between, then you'll have lots of small 100kcal or even 50kcal bites. I sometimes just make a note in my head, for example on pieces of chocolate, and write them down next time I walk by my paper sheet.



Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/08/16 04:28 AM

Thanks for the info, RSColonel_131st. I like your system and how you round off.

I need to measure better (use measuring spoons/scoops vs. big measuring cups for smaller stuff), also with getting the right info when I have no label. We have a couple of calorie counting books we dug up which cover fruits/veggies/liquids to restaurant dishes. I also need to estimate how many calories I burn in a day.

Wife is home on a 9-day vacation and we're going to work on it together starting tomorrow. She's going to make me a spreadsheet with my typical eats (won't be difficult, I pretty much stick to the same stuff) and put a clipboard in the kitchen where I can simply put a check or number next to whatever I'm stuffing into my pie hole. We'll figure something out that works for me.

Tomorrow morning, Alzheimer's 5K at LSU, then she goes to yoga while I walk the campus again (no football, was suppose to be in Gainesville, I believe), a good start.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/12/16 01:35 PM

Mystery being solved, I'm one snacking SOB! And that's with cutting back so that I don't have to log so much snacking and knowing someone is constantly watching over my shoulders this week (which I asked for). You can do allot of small innocent snacking throughout an entire day.

I'll spit out the details later...

I've been very detailed with calorie counting of breakfasts this week (I cook breakfast), then I round the total to the nearest 100 (as suggested) which is a one-time deal since I'm consistent with what I cook. Otherwise, I'm using RSColonel_131st's round-off method.

My breakfasts range between 400 - 500 cal. plus a banana (120 cal.) and a 1/4 cup of almonds (160 cal.). 780 cal. total. What I'm doing now is saving the banana/almonds for a mid-morning snack until lunch.

We hardly ever eat out or consume alcohol (low amount) except on Friday date night, which is every other week or so. Other things I've done, for example, is to reduce my nightly size of pomegranate juice from 8 to 4 oz., saving 75 cal. (POM's claim that it helps to ward off old man...issues...is now being questioned by the FDA anyway). It's quantity, even with snacks, that I'm needing to reduce and having pre-made snack bags and containers are key for me (I really knew this already, I just wasn't doing it).

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This week UPS delivered womens leather boots (I measured 16" from heel to top), what looks to be tighter/skinnier jeans, and a couple of non-baggy lacy looking tops that don't look like they were made by Disney. biggrin Only what I've been begging for, for 30 years! I'll take all the motivation I can get right now, and I'm looking forward to replacing my own wardrobe as well.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/12/16 04:22 PM

The new wardrobe so you can hide your new sexy outfits from the missus? biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/12/16 04:54 PM

No, but I am going see "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" at the end of the month (first time seeing it in a theater and not being 17/18th BD) so I might come back with those...tendencies. biggrin

Lieste, you had a very nice post about fencing that was lost in the interruption, that sucks.
Posted By: kaa

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/12/16 05:43 PM

The thing with carbohydrates is that ,complex or simple, once they are in the blood, sooner for the simple et later for the complex, they have a very simple fat(e): if one's very active, physical, they are burnt as fuel for the muscles. If one does nothing physical afterward, they are stocked as fat.If one hasjust done some difficult exercice, they are stocked as glycogen in the muscle in the first place because the glycogen stocks are depleted. So for dinner,when bedtimei s coming the one who wants to lose weight should avoid them and eat plenty of green veggies instead unless he just has done aerobic sport.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/12/16 10:51 PM

I was just saying that I've been able to buy a nice Gambeson from Black Armoury, and some mitten style gauntlets - I've been doing steel for the last 6 weeks or so - with synthetic still for free-sparring but steel for drills and controlled sparring.

Steel has a lot more presence in the bind, and is a wonderful sound.

On one of the two weekly sessions I've also been doing some Italian Rapier, which is a lot harder work than longsword. This is because the weapon is similar in weight (in fact our training weapons are almost a pound heavier than the Federschwert) are held with only one hand rather than both, and are held in extended guards most of the time. Sorely tempted to place an order for a better quality rapier, but there is a 10 month+ waiting list.
A very different style of fencing, much more thrust oriented, although still with the option to cut, but longsword is easier to learn the basic techniques, and much less tiring.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 08:49 AM

I got a bit lost for a while (I put on a few kg) but I'm making a final push to get to my 'ideal' weight.

91kg (14st 3lbs) today.That's the lightest I've been for 20 years I reckon. That's close to shedding 5 stone! I'm amazed to be honest.

I want to find something that weighs 5 stone and carry it around for a bit.

My BMI is now 27,down from 36.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 08:55 AM

Wow Chucky, you are doing really well. Hitting the weights too?

Lieste, I keep wondering if I want to try either Kendo or HEMA for exercise... you make it sound appetizing.

Right now I have Salsa classes until end of November and I might keep the habit of going somewhere once a week to learn/practice/train.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 09:06 AM

Yup,I try and use them 3-4 times a week.Other than the walking and cycling I also do some basic exercise,push-ups etc.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 09:23 AM

That sounds like plenty of exercise. What is your target weight?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 12:15 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
That sounds like plenty of exercise. What is your target weight?


Around 13st 7lbs (85-86kg),so not too far to go.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 01:14 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Wow Chucky, you are doing really well. Hitting the weights too?

Lieste, I keep wondering if I want to try either Kendo or HEMA for exercise... you make it sound appetizing.

Right now I have Salsa classes until end of November and I might keep the habit of going somewhere once a week to learn/practice/train.


If you have any interest in swords or mediaeval/renaissance history then you should at least try out some type of HEMA.

Kendo is very, very formal - strict rules about the postures used before/during/after cuts and specific targets. As I understand it even more so than in olympic (foil, epee, (sport) sabre) fencing in some respects. It isn't the same as Kenjitsu - which is more closely comparable to HEMA though still likely to be more 'mystical' about how the art is approached. For me that isn't too appealing.

I'd suggest looking around your area for available schools. Then do a few taster classes in the one(s) that appeal most to you (many schools have a limited amount of 'beginners' kit for people to try out, because the initial costs of entry are somewhat high (even a basic synthetic/wooden waster, gloves, mask, elbows is going to run to around 200 Euro - and basic 'fast drilling' steel longsword kit around 600 Euro - with more to permit free sparring or competition*).
You might find that you have a preference for one type of weapon over another - single handed swords are very different in handling and how they can be used than a longsword, and have the possibility to use with a parrying dagger or buckler in some traditions. I like both, and especially the differences between using a longsword (very fast movements over wide arcs, by minimal opposition of the hands on each other, lots of interesting angles the attacks and parries can come from) and a rapier (smaller movements, much slower point, but 'quicker' in some ways because of the minimal movements needed - I find it much harder work than the longsword as the whole weight of the sword is in one more or less extended hand, and the body is involved much more in lunging and other large movements of the centre of your mass - with the addition of the left hand dagger you get a different feel again, with much more rapid resolution of exchanges).

Being from Austria you might find the original source material for the German traditions more accessible - I have to rely on translation, with all the issues that that causes - I know it is an archaic form rather than modern but I still find Elizabethan English more manageable than C15th/C16th German

*The training weapons of reasonable quality are around 50/250 Euro respectively. I'd note that a nice steel feder, or rapier training sword etc, is much more fun to have, to hold and to swing around than a plastic or wooden 'sword' or a shinai. It isn't quite as nice as a 'real' sword (whether blunt or sharp), because it is made 'safe' for your training partner which is contrary to the original purpose of a sword, but many people also go on to buy sharp versions for cutting practice or (sharp/semi-sharp) for their walls.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 01:45 PM

Hmm, both the nearest HEMA and Kendo club seem to have started their beginner classes in late September or early October... might be I need to wait until spring to get involved as I can't start additional stuff until December.

True that as German speaker the European approach would give me some interesting reading material - I have however spent some time with Japanese Philosophy and so their formal way to go about things is also interesting.

I guess from a Fitness POV the HEMA works you harder?
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Chucky
Around 13st 7lbs (85-86kg),so not too far to go.


You really ought to celebrate that properly when you get there. Looking forward to when you let us know biggrin
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/19/16 02:17 PM

I'd assume that athletically they'd be similar. You are still using a sword like object to offend your partner, while moving as necessary to do so. Kendo has narrowly proscribed techniques, but that means that they need to be performed more accurately and rapidly to be successful (probably?), while Longsword uses a much wider palette of potential attacks so deception and geometry often take the place of raw speed or power.

At 1.65m and 50kg I am competitive in most respects with people who are universally taller and between 75 and 90kg... as long as I use geometry and mechanical advantage to do what reach and strength cannot.

The gear weight adds up - my (not quite complete) longsword set (mask, mask hood, Gambeson, leg-guards and gauntlets, plus the feder) comes to around 7kg additional to my clothing worn underneath** (in small/very small sizes) and most of the other kit used in the school seems to be noticeably heavier. It is quite hot to work in, especially at higher pace. Rapier I use the same gear for except I omit the leg-guards, and use thin gloves instead of the gauntlets. This is heavier than is strictly needed, but I don't have a lighter fencing jacket or mask so just use what I have for longsword.

** As a point of context - white harness, arming doublet and sword would be around 24kg for me. Some (formerly) rich people even practice harnessfechten, but that is outside what I can at this point afford...

Which suited you best would I think depend on which interested you more... but steel sword, compared to bamboo stick ~ just saying. duel
Definitely more squinting needed to see a shinai as a sword than a feder as one.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 12:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Slaugh_4
Hey I was very fatty but I now want to come in shape...


LOL. Don't we all?
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 12:03 PM

Nope, I never was fat wink
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 12:14 PM

I was pretty thin all the way through high school. The weight gain started in college.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 12:43 PM

I started gaining weight as a teen, hanging out with my wife's family. It was my introduction to Cokes, fast food, frozen seafood (Mrs. Paul's) and constant carport BBQ's. Oh, and cable (HBO/MTV), sitting on the couch watching TV.

"Annette's boyfriend's momma must not feed him." "Have another piece of pie" (always several to choose from).
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 12:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Slaugh_4
Hey I was very fatty but I now want to come in shape so I have joined gym last week. I have shopped for work out leggings from online. The best part was that I have got great discount from online shopping. Now I would like to gift some coupons to my cousin on her birthday so that she can buy clothing from online.


Addisoncave,is that you?
Posted By: Jayhawk

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 02:21 PM

To those who may have trouble losing weight despite considerable efforts: maybe go see an Endocrinologist and have TSH/T3/T4 levels checked?

Even a latent/ sub-clinical Hypothyroidism (T3/T4 normal, but TSH elevated) could be the culprit. Especially if you notice any other symptoms usually related to Hypothyroidism (but often falsely diagnosed as something else) . A simple blood sample test will clear that up.

An acquaintance of mine did just that, and lo and behold: his TSH was elevated. Turned out his lethargy was not at all due to depression or "lazyness".

Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 02:23 PM

My culprit is too much Popeye's fried chicken and biscuits. biggrin
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 02:26 PM

Ironically enough I've put back KFC on the list of things to eat... yes there's plenty of fat and the nutritional value of those fats is bad, but 12 hot wings have decent protein for only 1000kcal...
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Ironically enough I've put back KFC on the list of things to eat... yes there's plenty of fat and the nutritional value of those fats is bad, but 12 hot wings have decent protein for only 1000kcal...


If the hot wings are not breaded it's not too bad.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 02:43 PM

I have my TSH checked every 12 months since I suffered hyperthyroidism in the 90's. Now I take daily supplements since treatment sent me the other way.

Oh boy this is getting hard now.The last stone is proving hard to shift.I keep having little 'breakdowns'.I need more will-power.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 02:45 PM

PM, they are breaded, but even so they work out to a decent meal without going overboard.

Chucky, you get two special babe posts when you manage that final stone biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/27/16 04:58 PM

I'm under control now, stalling mainly from excessive daily calories. I've cut back.

I even received a nice complement recently...
"Your face is starting to thin out again."

Hell yeah!

When I get back in a posting mood (and have time) I'll write a long boring post about it, including weight and measurements.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/25/16 01:47 AM

Just committed far too much money on a nice main gauche and rapier for my Giganti/Capo Ferro rapier class to replace the class loaners... much nicer weapons and it will make the 90 minute session much easier to remain focussed on (the extra 650g of the basic weapon over the proper weighted one is around 50% heavier than it needs to be, and held at arms' length for much of the time it becomes difficult to retain fine point control).

Long wait for forging and delivery to be complete, but should have nice stabby-stabby-funtimes toys by March or April... meanwhile I still also need to buy hip protection once I can find some small enough. (Fencing pants and skirts that I've seen so far are either not suitable for longsword (not padded/with stiff plates over the hip) or are sized at 30+ inch waist which is dangerously close to being able to just fall off.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/25/16 11:03 AM

Still waiting for videos Lieste wink

Mark, good to hear. Keep going!

Not sure if I wrote it already, but I got back into indoor climbing (bouldering) for the cardio and muscle training. Want to get back into swimming but I know that at the convenient times the place is full of old people loving to get in the way and kids trying to jump on my head. Need to muster the discipline to get up earlier.

So basically some more rounded exercise with these two activities, plus a small push downwards for 75KG at about 12% bodyfat. That should look really nice then.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/25/16 07:26 PM

Nothing new to report here, except we're closing in on that last month of the year and I'm feeling a time crunch.

Wife was at the cardiologist all Monday morning, lots of tests, all just came back good (normal). Said she was running the treadmill hard, got her heart rate up to 180 pbm for several minutes (more than they needed), that she was feeling good doing it. She's done, her weight and size exactly where she wanted it, just maintaining now and waiting for me to catch up (details and pics when *I'm* done as well).

I'm busting my ass on it right now though, harder than 2008/09. I don't like getting left behind but overall I'm feeling really good. smile
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/28/16 11:50 AM

The Chucky diet train has come off the tracks a little banghead

I managed 92kg a while back but today that is 95.6kg. I blame the cold weather setting in.No push-bike rides at the moment but I'm still walking every day.

I'm having a 2 week strict diet session starting today to get back on track.I wanted to be 85kg for christmas but I'll settle for 90 now. I'm so annoyed with myself mad
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/28/16 12:13 PM

Don't get too annoyed at yourself, angry frustration will just make eating for pleasure more attractive.

The cold weather for me always has the effect that my body wants to build up some fa t and I get more craving for fast food than normal. Try to step over that... hard but possible.

Fingers crossed! You came a far distance already, now don't lose your temper, stay "good" with yourself and accept the ups and downs while being focused.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/28/16 11:38 PM

I seldom have a bad day anymore, not much opportunity with what's in my house. Of course, you can still overeat with healthier food, it's just not as tempting. But when I do, I don't worry about it. Every day is a new day and sometimes I have to look at it as a fresh start.

I've said this before, we shouldn't have to put *this* much effort into it, but that's the world we're in and for me, I'm working on a body that's had decades of abuse so it's going to be difficult. But, what can you do?

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I figure this is as good a thread as any to post this (not going to start a new one for it). Two weeks I wanted to give my lawn a final mowing for the season, got about a third mowed and it started raining so I quit. Last week I went to finish, mower wouldn't move (Gravely zero-turn, belt or transmission problem). I knew we were going to get allot of rain today and I really wanted it done.

So this morning, and half of the afternoon, I mowed about 2/3 of 1.5 acres (minus house and 12' of pond) with a cheap (as in Lowe's smallest cheapest mower) non-propelled push mower. My arms and legs are freggin' Jell-O. No way I could have done it with summer grass, was hard enough as it was. I had to have burned some serious calories today, I doubt I workout or hit the treadmill at all tonight.

It's pouring now so I'm glad I finished it. I meant to mow only the dog pin and got carried away with the tunes in my headphones. tuner
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/29/16 01:20 AM

Yeah, the push mower with the friction driven blades is brilliant for a work-out.

I hate the noise of strimmers/petrol or electric mowers... so always preferred to use a push mower.

If the grass is very long, you can also consider a scythe or sickle if you want to do it the quiet and fullfilling way...
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/29/16 04:32 AM

Oops, sorry Lieste. A little miss-understanding. smile

My push mower has a gasoline engine to turn the blade, it's just not self-propelled, so I still have to push it manually. What you're referring to (I think) is a reel mower (for REAL men...lol), no motor at all and the wheels turn the blades. I have one of these, a small Scott I bought for the little golf putting area in my backyard (that is now in disarray). But it's not heavy-duty enough to cut allot of yard, like those old-timey reel mowers.
Posted By: FishTaco

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/29/16 12:50 PM

Now that I've freed myself of the shackles of marriage, I noticed something very weird........despite all the talk of "getting healthy", wife was actually doing nothing, but keeping weight on both of us. Got pissed at me because I have been able to focus myself.

I've been on a whey powder drink now for eight weeks, and I've been taking in carbs only twice per week. I feel great!

In that time, I've lost 8 kilos, I see I got about another 8 to lose. I'm 6'4 on the old scale. From next week I'll be into the company gym, and back with my bro Ray doing some short sessions of cage fighting again. Must be having my second childhood, because I'm really looking forward to this, and I turn 50 in January......LMAO.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/07/16 05:09 PM

I'm off to get my teeth scraped, we did x-rays last time (I think) so it ought to be quick and easy.

We're going to talk with our dentist after and make a final decision whether or not to get whitenings, and if so, which procedure. I personally don't think it's worth it, maybe if we were 30 but not at 50. We suffered enough already with full braces in our 40's (her second time around and mine took two years to sort out that mess), gum treatments and then my two implants. I'm tired of it and don't want anymore work done in my mouth unless it's absolutely necessary, plus I want to enjoy my coffee/tea and red wine without caring if my teeth are getting stained.

Wife would have it much worse because she has exterior top front fillings that would need replacing to match, but she really would like whiter teeth (her yellowish fillings really show in photos). I guess I'll do it if she does, but I'm going to suggest we've done enough already, stained teeth (as long as they're healthy) don't bother me.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/08/16 01:21 AM

I was out voted. frown After our next dental cleaning April of next year, we'll be starting a dentist office whitening called "Zoom", using a blue light or something. Thing is, my wife's front fillings are 25 years old so she doesn't mind replacing them while having all of her teeth consistently whitened. Should be easy for me, my implants are both lower back molars (the big ones second from back, no wisdom teeth) so it doesn't matter if the shade doesn't match since you can't see them anyway.

Wow, I've had my teeth finished for a few years now, but they were never really white. All I'll need now is some fruity stylish clothes and I might pass for an older metrosexual! biggrin Unless I have to shave off the goat...that ain't happening.
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/08/16 03:38 AM

I was 42 and I didn't have a single cavity until I whitened my teeth. I had two cavities within two years of the whitening. May have been a coincidence but I will never believe it.


Wheels
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/08/16 01:49 PM

Interesting, Wheels. I have four months to really look into it, I'm still not sold on it. Thanks for your input.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/09/16 09:24 AM

How's everyone doing with the weight, pre-christmas? Chucky?

I was down to three days 76.x kg and four days 77.y kg for a week (y being on the low side) but now I'm back in the high 77s for a full seven days. Damnit, wrong direction if I'm to get into 75s.

I did raise my situp weight from 6 to 10kg, and it shows. Enjoying indoor climbing quite a lot, once a week for an hour...
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/09/16 10:14 AM

Please don't ask.I'm absolutely furious with myself.All attempts to get back on track have failed.

92kg to 97kg banghead

However I'm on day 2 of the fight back.It's never been this hard before.Come February it will be 12 months since I started,I will be terribly disappointed if I'm not at 85kg (my target weight) by then.

Not cycling has hit me hard.The cold and wet has seen to that.I did think about some sort of bike exercising machine but that doesn't appeal at all.I'll just walk whenever possible.
Posted By: Ajay

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/09/16 11:31 AM

Finally decided to jump aboard.

I was laying in bed four weeks ago and two days tonight and decided i needed to change my whole life. I turned 46 this year, still smoking (32 years smoker) eating fairly sh/t food, drinking way to many iced coffees, no exercise despite a two year stint of riding to work three years ago..and then sitting at a desk all damn day. Heaviest i have ever been in my life, 97 kilos, 6.13.

I was at the point where running up a flight of stairs and i was puffed. Didn't want to take my shirt off at the beach because i was 'skinny fat'. Lost all of any tone i used to have, face getting fat, staying up late constantly..1am-2am bedtime, 6.30 rise, 8.5-9 hour work day. Just cruising through life doing jack sh/t. So about an hour in my head laying in bed and going over it all and made Friday (which was two days away) my quit all the bad crap day and start sorting my sh/t.

Had my last ciggie and iced coffee at 10 pm that Friday night while looking at the stars on my balcony and toddled off to bed. Up at 7 and cleaned the house from bottom to top. Ashtrays gone, threw everything in the fridge out, cleaned out the cupboards, swept, mopped..threw away all the crap you keep hanging on to for that 'this might come in handy moment'. Went and hit the shops and spent my ciggie and iced coffee money on new sneakers, new shorts, couple of new shirts, new socks, small backpack, fruit, cereal, yogurt and other weird things i never ate biggrin Found a nice clean 24/7 gym nearby and signed up.

4 weeks exactly today and i have hit the gym 6 days out of 7 for all 4 weeks. Get there at 5.45, finish at 7.10 and then go to work and try and contain my eating lol. In bed between 9.30 and 10.30, up at 5.20am. I have lost 5 kg and plateaued at 91.6 kg for the last week and a half. I am wanting about 78-82 kg and targeting a Brad Pitt Fight club body biggrin Seriously. Looking at toned, not weight lifter swole body type. At the moment i am not pushing myself full bore, but fairly hard. Most of my gym workout has been 3 sets/10 reps with chest day, leg day, back day, bicep/tricep day, shoulders day, cardio day with minor cardio in every day as well as stretching and a warm up on the treadmill. Mainly getting my form right first as i am a lot more uncoordinated than i thought i would be..those teen years are so far away now lol. I feel a bit like an old guy trying to be graceful doing ballet..it really is shocking how out of form you get.

I do need to get on a real eating plan as at the moment i am just eating good food as opposed to calorie counting..but that will come. Just trying to get my head right first. Third day at the gym and i nearly passed out on leg day pushing it too hard, sat on the floor in the 'omfg i am going to vomit position' for about two minutes before i could get up and not die. Lesson learned, i am 46 and have been smoking forever and not exercising or eating right, not 26 with plenty of go. Definitely feel a lot better and have a lot more pep in my step, my gut is going and i lost a notch on my belt..and i actually have some slight muscle happening. When i am watching a movie or chilling i have some hand grippers i use that i fatigue my forearms with to keep my mind of smoking when it pops up. Also working on being aware of my posture.

I have a 'skinny fat' series of pics i took the day before my first gym day but i am not posting them until i have three or so months of pics to see at least some change..too embarrassing atm lads.

So fairly massive changes for me but i am feeling much better, sleeping better and slowly stopping thinking about smoking when situations pop up. Christmas is a bit of killer as it keeps entering my head as a pressure time, if i drink..i smoke. Drinking isn't a big thing for me..but Chrissie is the time so i need to work that out when it comes. I bailed on our work party a week ago owing to drinks and party atmosphere and pressure to just let my hair down. One day at a time is real for me regards smoking lol.

Sorry for the book biggrin Hopefully about Feb/March i will be able to post some pics and keep on the roll i am on, pretty serious about what i am doing as the alternative is just crap. In for the long haul to get my goal body and be fit and not die early. Worst thing? I want to eat everything..all the damn time, never been so hungry in my life!

edit- Any gurus in this thread want to jump in with some suggestions with gym/diet, go at it, i am all ears.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/09/16 12:02 PM

As far as the diet goes,keep a food diary/count calories.That helped me a lot. Also,plan your meals if you can.
Posted By: Ajay

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/09/16 02:27 PM

Yeah i know, i really need to get on it. Today i had my cereal with a banana at 7.30, yogurt (small one) at 8.30, nut bar at 10 then had to force myself to hang until 12.00 for a chicken and salad roll..i was starving! Had another yogurt and nutbar at about 2.00 and then had to fight myself to not attack the fridge again until knock off at 5.00! You would think i had never seen food before. It's more that i am not smoking or drinking a milk drink so am substituting food for when i normally escape for my five minute lung torpedo.

I need to find a plan and then stick to it. The first week i found i simply went to bed earlier so i would stay away from stuffing my gob.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/09/16 03:39 PM

First time posting fromeiphone this sucks nice read ajaajay back to lurking

Since I'm not arriving
Driving not arriving
I'll clean this up later wife says I'm using up all the juice
Posted By: harryw

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/09/16 03:53 PM

Originally Posted By: MarkG

Since I'm not arriving
Driving not arriving
I'll clean this up later wife says I'm using up all the juice


That read like some rock lyrics.
Posted By: Magnum

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/09/16 04:18 PM

Since my retirement... I joined a gym, and hired a personal trainer. I've been using him for just over a month now and plan on continuing till April, when I'm having a military reunion I'm hosting. Hope to be big, and still don't want lean.

On day 1 he gave me a diet, posted below... I told him didn't like most of that food, and I love to eat, and still want to enjoy life... so we compermised, but this guy is smart, I want to stay big, but turn my fat to muscle... so if you work out with weights, (that's what he says is important for older people like me, 50, if you youmg then more cardio is important, but for a old guy, our muscles have matured and now fading, his words. at my age he says work out with weights and eat healthy, (90% of weight lost is eating, now working out.)

work out 3 or 4 times a day, a do 3 times a week... my schedule...

Monday... Chest (major muscle), Bicep (minor muscle), and abs.

Wednesday... Shoulders (major), Legs (not really minor muscle group, bust worked as one), abs

Friday... Back (major), Triceps (minor), abs.

4 exercises for the major, 2 for the minor 1 for the abs.

3 sets of 12, start light, work on form and concentrate on the muscle your working. last set you should be struggling to reach 12, I usually make ti to 8 to 10 before he says enough.

abs, 3 sets of 20. different ab exercises every time, not just sit ups.



When I first was weighed in and measures on day 1, I was 240 pounds, 33% body fat.

after 3 weeks we measured again... at first I was disappointed by gaining 1 pound... but then we discovered that I lost 5 pounds of fat and gained 9 pounds of muscle... so don't worry about the scale, muscle is heavier then fat. I lost 2 inches on waist, but added 3 on my back/chest/shoulder measurement.

My diet:

Morning bran flakes, (still need my regularity, lol), banana on the walk to the gym.

after work out, a protein shake.

lunch chicken salad or turkey sandwich, no white bread.

3 PM snake nuts ans fruits.

Dinner, protein, (chicken/steak) and vegtibles.

evening snake... fruit/vegitbles/nuts or natural peanut butter.

I eat small evey 3 hours, no breads, whites or sweets...

SUNDAY is a cheat day, and thou I do cheat, not nearly as much as I could... I find myself still wanting to honor the diet to a point. might have a brownie, X-mas cookie or 2 or ice cream with the wife at night. It's a cheat day.


so there you go, what I learned in the last month...life is good, feeling great... I like being a big boy, but now it's more muscle then fat.

heres his diet thou he suggested.

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/10/16 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by harryw
Originally Posted by MarkG

Since I'm not arriving
Driving not arriving
I'll clean this up later wife says I'm using up all the juice


That read like some rock lyrics.


biggrin

That was my first attempt at posting on a small screen (iPhone 4s) and man did it suck, although admittedly I didn't try to figure out how to text properly from a virtual keyboard. Texting on a phone would drive me nuts.

I enjoyed reading the posts though, when it wasn't my turn to drive. We couldn't get to the car charger so I had to conserve battery.

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Nice going, Magnum. Appreciate all the information.

I remember from your diving for your gun video, you're already built like a tank! biggrin

Funny thing is that I do want to be lean, in fact I wouldn't mind being considered skinny even, with a little bit of muscle (best example I can think of is Geddy Lee). It just feels better to me to be as light as possible, especially on my feet. I'm not sure I'm really capable of being lean/thin now, at least not like I want to be.

Wife OTOH doesn't share my enthusiasm for me wanting to be a lightweight, she doesn't mind a little extra weight on me (not a problem at the moment...lol).

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Wife walked into kitchen this morning while I was packing the small stuff on the table, including my camera which was convenient. Baggy travel jeans, unbrushed morning hair... "Smile!" (see pic below)...

She actually made it, she finished what she started back in 2008, now 110 lbs. (50 kilos), BMI: 18.6 and she aced her last physical/cardio tests. Total weight loss of 33 lbs. (15 kilos) with some yo-yoing but a slow steady decline, finally back to her natural healthy size and weight (as an ectomorph).

Sad to say that I'm back to 200 lbs. (90.7 kilos) and skirting obesity again (BMI: 29.5), however my waist size hasn't really increased over the last 10 lbs. gain so maybe some of it is muscle? But then my waist is under my belly! duh

If I can't be slim like I want, then maybe I might as well also try to become a tank! tanksalot

The next three weeks are going to be serious temptation with food and drink (plus not wanting to exercise), and I've asked the Mrs. to keep an eye on me and let me know if she thinks I'm falling off the wagon again. She knows what to do.

Good luck to everyone, this time of year is freggin' tough!

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/10/16 08:46 PM

City Thrift in Lilburn, GA, we hit the mother lode!

I'm bringing back (just for me) a lawn sized garbage bag full of Levis, Lee, Polo (dress and pullovers), Arrow, JoS. A. Bank, some with the original tags still on them. All for $60.00! bananadance Wife has a smaller bag of stuff for $35.00.

Niece tells us, wait until tonight after Japanese dinner in a nice area of Lawrenceville, there's a great Goodwill right next door, open until 9PM! Don't see how anything could beat where we just left, but we'll see.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/11/16 02:04 PM

I spent even a little *more* money at the super Goodwill last night! Atlanta has so much nicer and well organized Goodwills/thrifts than any in the Baton Rouge area. Atlanta is the king of Goodwill/thrift stores!

Also went to a very nice consignment shop, mostly women's clothing, wife bought her first black cocktail dress. My brother's wife is helping her shop, a more modern dresser (plenty of boots and lower riding skinny jeans).

I now have a humongous wardrobe, ranging from my current tight 36" waist (actually a looser 38", trying to contain the damage right now) to 32". Most of the nicer stuff I've bought is sized to what I *want* to be, for incentive.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/12/16 01:35 AM

Apologies for doing this, everyone is in the kitchen stuffing their faces and I had to walk away before I did more damage. It's too cold and dark to go for a walk so I secluded myself in my brother's office bedroom, told them to pick up the food (it's all 'crap') when they're done as I play on his super high-speed internet (oh man this is nice).

We were looking through their picture albums and I came upon a pic (I'm sure his wife took it) of my first new car, an '87 Dodge Colt E. I know it's very new because I hadn't added the side pin stripes yet, which I did within the first 3 months or so (see pic below).

That would put me just turning 19 and approximately 170 lbs. (77 kg)...

This is about what I'm shooting for today but at that weight in 1986/87, I felt I had already gained too much weight the previous couple of years. In 2009 I came within 10 lbs. of it! I was that freaking close to being my weight in that picture! biggrin

Apologies again, I just needed something to do besides eating and drinking. Maybe I'll go back to watching hi-def YouTube videos.

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/16 03:03 AM

I wanted to wrap up my latest blogging-like posts on this thread, now that I'm home...

Sunday night I was looking over the clothes I purchased on Saturday, and still couldn't believe I bought new looking Ralph Lauren shirts for $2.00, new looking 501's, Lee's and Calvin Klein's for $5.00, all kinds of designer names with quality material and nice stitching for just so cheap. Yeah, I know most of it is used clothing (although some still had original tags/cardboard/collar plastic attached) but man, I just can't believe what you can find at a thrift store or Goodwill in a predominantly upscale area. I don't think Baton Rouge even has any "high class" thrifts and Goodwills!

I told my wife I wanted to go back to those stores on Monday, just the two of us and not feel pressured, spending as much time as we needed to look them over thoroughly. My brother and his wife had appointments in the area (about 20 min. from their house) so they dropped us off and came back a couple of hours later to do their own shopping. Their daughter (a spiffy dresser who also helped my wife shop on Saturday) lives nearby, she and her husband shop almost exclusively at that last Goodwill.

Anyway, another $250.00 spent on Monday eek (two full grocery baskets full of some of the nicest clothes we've ever owned) and we're all set! I now have complete wardrobes for 36", 34" and 32" waist sizes and large and medium sized shirts (dress shirts, pullover collar, workout, all types). Wife is keeping most of her baggy comfortable size 6's for around the house and traveling (like above pic) while she racked up on 4's and 2's as well as medium and small sizes. We noticed that the smallest size (impossible for me right now, a little tight on her) is the nicest clothing, but it's all really nice stuff.

I couldn't help singing ZZ Top's "Sharped Dressed Man" while I shopped. biggrin

Ok, enough about thrift/Goodwill shopping, I'm just relieved to now have a complete wardrobe, especially all the stuff I have yet to get into as I slim down.

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I also brought home an old-school Onkyo receiver for my man cave (already had a pair of Bose 201's waiting), my brother upgraded his stereo equipment again, often giving me the oldest hand-me-downs (some things never change). Glad to be home, Atlanta is awesome but just too congested and high paced for us.

We did ok on eats, Cracker Barrel "healthy breakfast/dinner" with "healthy fixins'" along the way, water w/lemon and coffee, etc. I did the best I could at my brother's and with all the eating out, both him and his wife are in their 50's and somehow keep trim (although I think it's just beginning to catch with up with them wink ). Our niece (their daughter) and Cuban husband, oh man! Since the last time we saw them she's lost 35 lbs. and he's lost 50 lbs. I thought they were doomed (he's a chef and likes "a little meat on them bones") but man, they're doing great! We were out eating Japanese hibachi and he substitutes the fried rice for extra veggies! Why didn't I think of that?! duh

Visiting my sister and family next weekend, again going to try to eat the best I can but they don't make it easy.

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Another reminder pic from my brother's photo albums that I can get back there, I WILL get back there...

EDIT: Driving through Birmingham, AL (it was sunny on way to Atlanta), I kept looking up for Dart's biplane. biggrin

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/16 08:48 PM

Alright, gotta do an update...

We waited an extra day before weighing in (giving all the sodium a chance to settle smile ). The Atlanta trip put 1.5 lbs. (.69 kg) on my wife and 5.5 lbs. (2.5 kg) on me. I guess it could have been worse, other than Sunday lunch. Sooo...I'm technically obese again...damn, damn, damn! Saturday is also going to be tough at my sister's.

Anyway, Sunday, my brother took us to a giant Chinese buffet in Norcross (I think). I hate buffets, especially Chinese as I lose all control (although I didn't do *that* bad for me, at least the old me). First off, there's no way I can eat a buffet and not drink a Dr. Pepper (or three). Water with lemon works 95% of the time, this is not one of those times. I "limited" myself to two giant mountain sized plates of food (after eating only a banana for breakfast, I wanted to get my money's worth). Although I did eat plenty of boiled shrimp (and they weren't bland) and they had the tastiest whole octopus. Otherwise, I had the usual fried egg rolls, fried shrimp, scallops, crab rolls, different chicken dishes, everything bad. We stuffed ourselves silly.

Wife did something different (our Chinese buffets don't have this option, I don't think). They had a hibachi where you put raw foods in a plate, hand it over and they cook it for you. All they ask is how spicy you want it (wife likes spicy). We sampled some of hers and all agreed, what she ate was a better choice than most of the other stuff and just tasted better than most of what we were eating. I also agree with my brother, I can't be standing in a hibachi line and then waiting for my food to be cooked, getting back to the table at least 10 min. later than everyone else. I already had most of my first plate knocked out when she finally made it to the table. That's patience and willpower the rest of us didn't have, even for our second plates, except for my father who did the hibachi thing.

My only solution is to just avoid these kinda places like the plague, I don't do buffets if I can help it. I got my brother back though, I bought an apple pie from the Publix bakery, along with a tub of vanilla ice cream (his favorite), our last night there. He's probably still eating on it. smile
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/19/16 10:41 AM

I can relate to the Chinese buffet problem. I'd sometimes pay 10EUR for a box of Sushi instead going to the 12EUR buffet place which had unliminited Sushi (and everything else) just to limit my intake...

Gah, had a really mentally tiring two weeks (working and solving a very important private situation) and I find myself with an urge to eat all day. Taking the week off between X-Mas and New Year, trying to come down and eat healthy for seven days.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/19/16 02:42 PM

The other day I re-read this entire year-old thread and I'm pretty disappointed in myself. Lots of words, pics, let's just do it attitude, but no real progress.

Bah. I know it could be worse, lots of people lose weight and then gain it all back and then some. I gained about half of mine back [less actually] and then contained it. Not really what I was shooting for though. smile

Here comes another year, 2017 will be the one! cheers

I just have to keep reminding myself that I really don't want to go back to my 30's, I felt like such an old man (didn't think I would even make it to 50)...



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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/22/16 08:23 PM

Ok, I'm going for broke (figuratively and literally). biggrin

The past couple of days have been doctor appointments (yesterday I had a couple of moles removed, including a really irritating one around my eye...ouch) since I've met my deductible. Today I went to Costco and purchased their 200 lbs. dumbbell set...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAY_xop_NHM

I couldn't find this item for the past several months, as this person brought out at the end of the video, I just needed to wait until New Years.

I'm changing my diet as well, going to minimize (but not totally eliminate) dairy and wheat. But mainly I'm going to workout and walk/jog like a crazy mofo, get off my lazy ass on a more regular basis and exercise as much as I can stand!

This isn't so much a New Year's Resolution, it's more of an age resolution. I turn 50 next year, in about 8 months from now and I am not going into my 50's being overweight! I absolutely freaking refuse to! mad

5'-9" (175.26 cm), I need to get to 168 lbs. (12 stone) for a highest "Normal" BMI of 24.8. I know the BMI table is meant for population averages and not always applicable to an individual, but I think it works for me (I'm not a special case), when combined with waist measurement and bf percentage.

<Cues up AC/DC's "Back In Black" album and puts on workout gloves.>

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After watching that video, I'm going to make the rack base sturdier and then add wheels to it. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/23/16 03:18 PM

Assembled the rack this morning, this set is really nice (possibly a slightly newer model upgrade to the one in the video). The rack is very sturdy.

We came really close to getting a new weight bench with squat station, but weren't as impressed with it on close inspection so we're still shopping (no rush to replace the one we have). Right now we really don't have room for a bigger bench anyway.

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/27/16 05:11 PM

On Oct. 1, I posted...

Originally Posted By: MarkG
I had a great time last night (concert) as I knew I would, but I can't keep this pace while skirting obesity. My energy levels and my feet can no longer take it, I have to finish what I started. Dec. 31 on this thread, pics will be coming (a little extra motivation to put up or shut up smile ).


Well, that ain't happening. frown I'm going to own up to it though, and shut up about it, after this post... smile

My sister is visiting until Sat., she's taken over my cave/gym so I haven't been working out this week, going to relax the rest of the week and start back up again Jan. 1.

Wife did something really cool. In addition to making nice clipboard spreadsheets for diet (mainly me, for calorie accountability) and our workouts (how much weight/reps for each exercise), [she bought a 2017 calendar for the our gym] and added every 5k walk/run for the year that we're interested in (6 so far) and other fitness-related milestone dates. She's as determined as I am that I'm not going to be overweight on my 50th birthday this Aug. 31st (and a 32" waist would be nice).

No doubt she'll have scheduled my first colonoscopy (and whatever else) for my 50th BD, and then I'll breathe a sigh of relief. I've had a very dull but consistent pain in my side/back for a couple of years now, that my GP has no concern over yet (I've noticed the irritation fluctuates with my weight). It'll be nice knowing I have nothing serious going on in there.

Meanwhile, she wants to hit it as hard as ever (she likes her weight, just wants another inch or so off her waist) and I'll continue to feed off her drive and determination (no excuses for me as *I'm* not the one going through menopause smile ).

We're still washing/dry cleaning the clothes we bought in Atlanta (I can't believe I bought a new looking heavy lined trench coat for $10.00) and now suddenly, for the first time in my life, I have a closet and dresser stuffed with very nice clothes (most of which don't fit me yet)! smile

Our postponed NYC Manhattan foot tour is now scheduled for June 15th, giving me a little over 5 1/2 months to get into tip-top shape, which is plenty of time. We were discussing the other day when we're getting back to the Naval Air Museum in Pensacola, how we never seemed to have enough time to see it all (never toured the aircraft displays outside). She reminded me that there was time, I just couldn't handle the walk. Just the inside trek wore me out and I had to sit and rest allot. Unbelievable.

So without a formal New Year's Resolution, I'm getting back to it on the 1st. and harder than ever! Until then I'm going to back off posting so much about it, enjoy other people's success stories (some of which are really inspiring) and in general, try to spend more time lurking/offline. I guess that's my NY Resolution, having a little more balance with being online (mainly SimHQ).

Good luck to everyone here striving for a healthy lifestyle in 2017! cheers

EDIT: I missed part of a sentence, we have fitness-related dates (5k's) on a 2017 gym calendar as constant reminders.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/30/16 05:16 PM

Well, it's come down to the drastic and dramatic. rolleyes

Wife and I had a real heart-to-heart last night. She's concerned that with my half-ass attitude, gung-ho one week and then slacking off the next two or three, that I'm not going to keep up with her in NYC this June. Considering our recent treks of Houston last June, downtown Baton Rouge last Sept., going back to WDW Orlando a couple or so years ago, she's probably right. She's been planing this vacation for years now, every detail of a 5 8-day foot-only tour of Manhattan, from the top of Central Park to the lower tip of the Financial District. I really don't want to fall behind and let her down. BTW, I get my one full day on the Intrepid. smile

It all started back in 2008 (age 40) with her bags packed (and she doesn't play). I told her I'd see a doctor immediately if she stayed (and none too soon). I also made a promise that evening (after being scared sh**less) that from now on, I'll go on all medical appointments she schedules, and I've kept my promise (if with a little grumbling and occasional attempts to postpone).

Now I'm making another promise for the first of the year, Sat. night at the strike of midnight...

She's quitting Facebook before it becomes a problem, while I'm also going completely offline and turning myself over for 6 months. I think it'll be like a sexy boot camp version of "Full Metal Jacket", except instead of training as a tough Marine, I'll be in yoga classes and yelled at by a ~105 lbs. woman! biggrin

That's ~6 months (~26 weeks or 181 days), she said I can come back July 1st and post all the pics and detailed posts I want, but give her 6 months and she'll finish knocking the weight/waist off of me. I'm kinda scared. eek

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I'm not going to stress over it tonight, though. Shrimp fajitas, vodka shots, live 80's music and whatever comes after, everything an old man needs! biggrin

readytoeat bottles band bananadance
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/30/16 07:56 PM

Damn. Would have enjoyed seeing your progress, but I guess we'll be surprised by July. You ought to be thankful for a partner that kicks your butt in shape like that wink

My new years resolution is simple, yet not so easy: To drop all the white bread and most of my sugar for a month. Then see how it is, and maybe keep it up or adapt.

That means no burger buns, no pizza, no kepab in a sandwich. I'll not yield my monday morning muffin because that is too psychological valuable, but going to try to replace the afternoon doughtnuts and snacks with healthier options. I'll not be able to entirely kick all fried and battered stuff, but going to try and go for more vegetables, more pure meat. Basically a low carb variant cutting out most of the "fast" carbohydrates.

I need three kilos for the last row of abs to come out properly. Then I'll be happy biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/30/16 11:33 PM

Yeah, she's just tired of me whining about it. Also for blaming her family with getting me started and for her own lifestyle and eating habits over those bad years when I struggled to get healthier on my own. Of course, it's everyone else's fault but my own! biggrin

I see her point though about the whining, also that I *never* seem to finish what I start and she wants to see me to finish...something. I'm not too worried about relapsing once I get there, I've at least maintained most of the loss over a few years and with allot more fitness, I just never finished the job.

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Tonight as I'm getting ready, I looked over my old "Molly Ringwalds" thread on the Music board to see what they played last time (it's been a while) and noticed that despite all of my nice new clothes, the only thing that comfortably fits me right now (if a bit baggy) is the same old tired 38"W faded Levi's and plain light blue dress shirt I wore at the first show, Dec. 26, 2015. A whole year went by with no real progress! duh

About going offline Jan. 1st (and I do have a problem, especially with time-killing browsing [not related to SimHQ]), trying to balance it would be like giving an alcoholic a beer. Ok, not really that bad, but I have to go cold turkey for a long spell for things like this to work (like I did with fast food in 2008, I seriously limit it now but don't completely abstain).

I'll take pics along the way and for sure I'll have a giant success post on this thread come July 1st! And I know I'll succeed this time because my personal trainer won't accept failure. smile

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Already limiting wheat, sugar (also Splenda) and dairy, feeling better already! thumbsup

Wife and I are both signed up for cooking classes over the next three months (I think), one is a knife class and the other is all about healthy cooking. Mainly I want to do more stir-fry wok cooking, also thinking about a kitchen remodel to add a ventilated Japanese-style hibachi grill island. That would be freggin' awesome (much later down the road).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/01/17 05:59 AM

See you in July, dudes!

butt grrr
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/01/17 10:56 AM

Time to start again for the new year. Quite a setback for sure but I can do it.
Posted By: FishTaco

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/08/17 11:12 AM

Quick update:

As of today, continuing on my whey based drink, and two protein based meals per week (Grilled steak) I've gone from 126 kilos down to 109 as of today. Pretty happy overall.

Still got my ass handed to me by my friend Ray :-(

Doing an hours gym at the company gym each day after work. Been at the for a month, but don't seem to be adding
much in the way of muscle mass, a little disappointed.

However, there is one thing that I AM very happy about; my blood pressure. Wife has been keeping away from me,
and also my doc put me on a short course of drugs to help. When I went to him for help, my BP was ~ 214/90.

Today, using some breathing and relaxation techniques, I'm happy to say that is now down to: 103/70.
Who knows, I may even post some pics of myself in Bali next week...lol

Cheers,

Andrew.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/10/17 11:07 AM

Chucky, what's the score now? Any way to motivate yourself?

Taco, that's an impressive loss. Over what time - four weeks?

I'm back into discipline, and totally in love with a new product. Swiss Company introduced a chocolate milk late last year which has low carbs, added organic protein, no lactose. Very low kcal way of getting my sweet tooth filled with the added benefit of upping my protein intake. I've tried many "protein drinks, chocolate flavor" in the past but they never tasted proper. This one does.

Also started taking some hardboilded eggs to the office for breakfast, every other day or so. Of course much better than a muffin in the morning.

I find for me these little replacements are what makes all the difference.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/10/17 11:53 AM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Chucky, what's the score now? Any way to motivate yourself?



I have nothing to say. Hard times indeed frown I'm still hopeful I can turn this around but it's not too good atm.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/10/17 12:14 PM

Hang in there, don't let the setback get too deep into your mind. That only creates frustration, and I for one tend to eat out of frustration...

Stabilize the weight you have, and at worst it will take two more months or so until you can consider riding the pushbike again.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/10/17 12:35 PM

I have stabilized the weight at least. Just under 100kg now.I think I was 92 back in November. I knew xmas would be a problem even though I didn't receive any chocolate this time!

I appreciate the encouragement from this thread,it does help smile
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/10/17 02:07 PM

You came from 121kg, so it's not really unexpected that the trip down into sub-90 would have some plateau or even setback.

That's at least 21kg you still don't have anymore, be proud of that! There's also always the factor how our bodies adapt to extended diets (by cutting our daily base burn). That might be one part of your problem.

Hang in there, be positive, if you need suggestions for diet or exercise, we're here.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/05/17 05:15 PM

Just had a session of our sparring group - people from 4-5 local HEMA groups, fencing with different weapons and following different styles of combat.

Take homes.

2 hours of in earnest sparring is hard work, even when only fighting for around half the time...
Sword and buckler is slightly tricky to deal with when using a longsword - but there are several things that I found to be effective and I could repeat more or less at will (or at least fluff at and disengage unhit).
I don't move enough, nor string together attacks enough when facing a longsword held by a good fighter... but I do better when I feel more confident of my chances - need to work on that.


There might be some video (there was someone filming, but don't know whether I was recorded).



Getting a stop hit in during a retreat.



The fighters.
Posted By: Vitesse

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/07/17 12:17 PM

Good to read the progress (and occasional reverses) here. Lieste,that looks like hard work.

I started working on the last few years of decline after Christmas too. I'd got into the habit of too much alcohol (wrecking sleep) and snacking on crap. Food generally not unhealthy but too much of it.

We just finished a building project that gives us a basement big enough for some gym equipment - we already had a running machine and picked up a cross trainer on ebay. I like them 'cos there's no impact. We're off skiing in March (Ellmau in Austria) and I really didn't want to be limited by lack of fitness.

So a couple of months in my routine is a 10 minute warm up on the treadmill followed by mixed circuits using a phone ap (perigee 7 minute workout) then thirty minutes cross training. I've been able to increase the reps and resistance significantly since I started and I'm getting better form in the circuits. I try to do 4 or 5 days a week. There's an evening playing Badminton too.

Weight wise I've lost around 6 pounds, down to 168 and generally feel much better. Sleep is much improved. Can't say I've noticed any difference in the mirror but since the workouts are getting easier that's good enough for me. Just means I need to do more.

Looking forward to reading some more updates!
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/07/17 01:03 PM

Cool pics Lieste. Honestly - I would be scared doing that.

Vitesse, enjoy Austria! Nice area you picked there.

I just noticed that I can drop one hole down on my belt. Scary, because I might have to buy some new clothes. Staying off the fast carbs during January seems to have had a positive effect. Not getting enough exercise in though because life's been busy.
Posted By: Vitesse

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/07/17 02:14 PM

RSColonel, thanks, I can't wait. Picked up my first pair of ski boots recently so I'm all set. I've done the belt hole thing too - back to where I used to be!

About the time problem, I know what you mean. My exercise app is based on 7 minute circuits but I think I need to warm up and down after a workout and it takes a lot longer than that.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/17/17 01:36 AM

A 10 minute segment of various bouts of the recent sparring group. I'm up a few times during the footage, including against my rapier tutor (currently 102nd ranking in world, in the green gambeson).

Nothing very spectacular from me, of course, but I still like being on fill'm.

Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/17/17 10:28 AM

Very cool Lieste. Sometimes hard to spot the hits, pretty quick. It's interesting how real life differs from the Hollywood version of medieval fights where blows would be traded for hours without any hits...

So happy to report, on Wednesday I hit for the first time in almost ten years a 74KG mark on my scale. Last I had that was at 26 or so, but with a few Kg muscles less.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/17/17 01:11 PM

Well done Colonel!

Yesterday was my first bike ride (unpowered) of the year so hopefully I can get back on track. I have been very naughty.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/17/17 01:14 PM

Time to chain the fridge closed?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/17/17 01:15 PM

Or my mouth.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/17/17 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: RSColonel_131st
Very cool Lieste. Sometimes hard to spot the hits, pretty quick. It's interesting how real life differs from the Hollywood version of medieval fights where blows would be traded for hours without any hits...

So happy to report, on Wednesday I hit for the first time in almost ten years a 74KG mark on my scale. Last I had that was at 26 or so, but with a few Kg muscles less.


Fight choreography in film is typically lazy and uniformed. There is a style of simple moves invented in the early days of film (adapted from stage fighting) that is endlessly repeated, but we know a great deal more since the revival of HEMA, and should be able to produce much better choreographed fight scenes.

A simple example of an 'art' film by a group that does HEMA based street theatre and film projects, which is a world away from Hollywood - obviously there are still some distortions to make the fighters safe and to drag it out with a bit of variety, but there are mostly realistic techniques and 'intents' - especially nice is the meisterhau thwart cut thrown soon after they resume from the ringen phase:




Congrats on your accomplishment too.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/19/17 04:41 PM

Damn it! Silly old fool just spent 4 hours in A&E after a spill on the push-bike. Face-first into the kerb.Managed to ride home about 2 miles with blood everywhere.Multiple minor lacerations to hands,elbows,face but I thought I'd knocked my teeth out. Luckily not but I was bleeding quite a bit from my mouth.Got home,looked in the mirror and went straight to A&E.

Multiple stitches to inside of upper lip,a couple in my gums and another in a puncture in upper lip. I never thought it would stop bleeding.

I'm home now but a little shaken tbh. Who said exercise was good for you? frown
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/19/17 05:02 PM

Ouch. Happy to hear you are somewhat okay, could have been worse.

Did you not ask them to sew your mouth shut while they were already at it? wink

Speedy recovery and hopefully not too much pain. Chicks dig scars, come up with a good story to go with them?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/17 11:01 AM

I'm feeling it today.Everything hurts.I look terrible too.

On the plus side,eating is a problem at the moment so the weight loss should continue.
Posted By: Ssnake

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/17 01:24 PM

...never posted here before, and maybe I'm missing the point of the thread entirely, but here goes my recipe. A few words about boundary conditions: I like to eat, I like fine wine, I'm not too fond of "doing sports" for the sake of it. And I have an office job that keeps me glued to the computer for about 10...12 hours a day. Still I have managed to maintain my weight at just under 100kg for the last eight years, and see a slight recline lately. So, I basically eat what I like and more or less as much of it as I like (of course, managing one's desires still plays a bit of a role). What I regulate is the timing between meals. I start with lunch (12am) and end with dinner. Between dinner (7-8pm) and lunch, no food. Unsweetened tea and water are OK, but nothing to start up the digestive system. What I started more or less as a weak attempt to reduce my calory intage has recently received a bit more scientific attention, regular phases of famishment (14 hours minimum, 16 ideal) in the daily feeding cycle. Apparently that helps the body at the cellular level to also "recycle" inactive parts of the cellular molecules, e.g. of mitochondria that are no longer active, etc. At least for mice this strategy seems to work excellently, it might also work for humans (and apparently it works for me). Since I have extended my fasting period from 12...14 hour to now 14...16 I see a slight but steady decline in body mass.

Things that I don't do:
  • I have no car. Shopping groceries I do with a push bike, or walking to the store.
  • Once a week, I go swimming (1500m).
    Important detail: I do it with a friend, so that there is some social pressure to keep it up. And it works - we recently confessed to each other that we both didn't really want to go that day, but we both came to the meeting to not let the other down. And we decided, since it apparently worked, to actually do what we came for. wink
  • No munching of potato chips and similar stuff while watching TV, except maybe once or twice a quarter. Chocolate: Only dark, only in small doses (like one or two pieces, and lately not even that).
  • Alcohol: One tee-totaling quarter every year (from New Year to mid April).


The great thing about my system is that it isn't very intrusive, nor hard to follow, once that the body gets accustomed to the cycle of daily fasting. I develop hunger at pretty much exactly noon, which fits nicely with the 16/8 hour pattern that I set up for myself. I wouldn't recommend this to people with regular amounts of physical work, and not everybody can do without a car, so these are, I think, important factors that must be considered.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/26/17 02:05 AM

I know it's not July yet, so I have some 'splainin' to do...

I'm not sure what's going on with my Verio web hosting, they were bought out and it seems like a confused mess right now (also with billing). I can't log on to my server nor am I seeing my pics here, not sure if I'm losing them (pics and service) or not.

In any case, I have every pic I've posted here on SimHQ saved offline and well organized. If need be I'll replace the link to every pic on this thread, maybe some on the Music board as well (the other board I've frequented). This thread is very important to me so if my pics go down, I'll eventually fix it.

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No real updates from me right now, just gaining arm and chest muscles (becoming visibly noticeable now smile ) and wife lost another inch off her waist. I hope to lose more waist too, but screw it if I don't, as long as I keep getting bigger and stronger in the areas I want to.

Bought more stuff for the home gym: Dumbbell bench, curl bar, ladies dumbbell set and an Everlast speed bag which I'm assembling right now. I'm hoping the motion helps with a nagging sore rotator cuff. My dad can't wait for me to get it mounted in the 'barn', he use to beat on these years ago.

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Speaking of my father...

I walk by my office gym and hear him grunting (not loudly), peak inside and he's doing curls with my 30 lbs. dumbbells, one in each hand, alternating arms. Dude is 78 and still maintaining some arm strength, I'm inspired. Unlike him, I never worked labor intensive jobs like river barges and oil platforms and my idea of fun isn't using a jackhammer. I thought it was over-the-top growing up, he always had a weight bench (iron weights) and punching bags and stuff, even knows how to jump rope. I dunno, maybe a bit much but he still shames me as an old man, by comparison.

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Wife is in Oklahoma, eating in some restaurant right now owned by the "Pioneer Woman" on Food Network (I think they show it on TV). This is a girl's trip to this ladies' ranch (with an old HS friend plus daughter and granddaughter). She comes home Tuesday night so I workout alone tonight, I'm not going to push it without my spotter. I'm going to post a little now, check out the new layout, but seriously moderate my time for now on.

I went almost two months without posting (my first post of 2017)! biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/26/17 05:15 AM

Just read about attaching pics. Hmm... I wouldn't want to abuse the privilege but I'll try a couple (1024x768) right now to see what happens...

EDIT: Cool, it works!

Showing add-ons to home gym:

Dumbbell/crunch bench (gray bench, end of weight bench)
Curl bar, other side of treadmill (much more comfortable than barbell for curls)
Ladies dumbbells (colored ones)
Speedbag

We have to lift up the treadmill when we want to pull out the smaller dumbbell bench, it's getting crowded.

Attached picture Home_Gym_1.jpg
Attached picture Home_Gym_2.jpg
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/26/17 04:05 PM

Nice setup Mark. smile


Wheels
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/27/17 02:57 AM

Thanks, Wheels. I keep putting off major upgrades, my little weight set/bench is about at max capacity (barbells, lat tower, leg lever all have weight limits) but so am I. I'd rather increase reps and sets as needed vs. adding more weight, although I'm a ways from even worrying about it.


Couple more things...

Ouch, Chucky! eek2 Hope you're doing better!

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Stretching...

I still haven't tried a beginner's yoga class and I don't think I can get past my hang-ups about it. I'm being stupid, I know, but I don't need to be that flexible.

Wife now takes the lead with pre-workout stretching, something I've never done before (feels like a girly waste of time). I think it's making a big difference with how I feel during and especially after a workout. I can also tell when I'm going to bed that I sleep more comfortably, less tossing and turning from aches and pains.

Stretching good before a workout matters, it really does. I forgot to stretch last night and went straight to the bench (I'm missing my little workout buddy something awful). I didn't think about it until halfway through my routine so I just skipped it. Later, I couldn't lay on my right side for very long, couldn't get comfortable, although it didn't help that both dogs wanted to sleep next to me, sandwiching me in. Freggin' miserable, I think I'm going to sleep on the couch recliner tonight.

Once again, stretching beforehand matters, kinda hurts when you do it but you feel better the rest of the evening.

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Pushing myself hard...

Can't do it anymore. Wife knows, for example, that when she's spotting me on the bench and I can't get the bar more than halfway up, she needs to pull up on it with just enough force to help me finish the rep, and maybe one or two more. I don't do this anymore, as soon as I need any assistance at all, I stop (vs. trying to finish a 3rd set of 10). My body can't take the abuse, it no longer feels good tearing myself down to the point of needing help to get the bar up, it just hurts now. Age is not just a number, you feel it.

I find that I'm having to work through more discomfort lately, nagging stuff that zaps some of the enjoyment out of it.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/27/17 02:57 PM

Can't reply in detail because on mobile, but just very, very happy - 12% Body Fat and almost my perfect weight for an entire week (aiming for 5 points average a day and got 34 total)

This is going to be a great summer at the beach/pool. Poor girls biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/02/17 04:43 PM

That's awesome, RSColonel_131st ! thumbsup

The beach, eh?! I lived in Jax, FL for 12 years (1996 - 2009) and I doubt I've been to the beach more than a dozen times (although Jax Beach isn't nearly as nice as Daytona Beach).

This summer (August, when I turn 50) I can see myself fit and trim, standing at my grill (both charcoal and gas), flipping chicken and catfish (also hamburgers and hotdogs for the traditionalists). Shirtless, lite beer in my hand, Jimmy Buffett and 80's on the boombox, Mrs. enjoying the hammock in cute shorts/sleeveless.

Gotta visualize what you want and make it happen! biggrin

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Practical results of physical fitness and slimming down...

Me: Riding mower needed work, loose transmission belt, started fine but wouldn't move. I fixed it once myself (spring tension broke) but it's time for seasonal servicing so I'm letting them fix it this time. I pushed it about 50 yards through my backyard to the driveway, then up my trailer ramp. I don't think I could have done this a year ago, feeling stronger than ever and I like it!

Wife: Walks in kitchen the evening before her trip, big smile, I know something's up. Didn't take long for me to notice the small dull rock on her finger. She hadn't worn her engagement ring in years (band slightly smaller than wedding ring), it didn't fit on her pudgier fingers. I cleaned it with the ultrasonic toothbrush and baking soda toothpaste, gave it a sparkle, made her even happier. smile

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They're working on my site problem, still can't see pics.

EDIT: Pics temporarily fixed.
Posted By: mailman

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/08/17 01:24 PM

Been training for the Cambridge Half Marathon (took place the Sunday just gone), had originally given myself 8 weeks to train as my objective was to PB but really didn't give myself any leeway for injuries (old age catching up) or vicious man flu (which effectively ended my training after 5 weeks)!

Still though, got myself a new PB of 2:02:31 which is over 4 minutes faster than my previous best BUT the thing I loved the most was the improvement over my last two half marathons. September I did the Disneyland Paris run in 2hrs 20 minutes last year but that was pretty much the first run over 10km I had managed to do in well over 8 months due to injury. Then in October I died on the Peterborough half and crawled in at 2hrs 34 minutes!

So this year I was determined to put injuries behind me, suck it up and just make it happen! For the first time I actually followed a training plan with increasing long runs, easy runs during the week and an effort session once a week. Really started to see some improvements in my times being made so was really pleased with training "properly" and how that all went.

All went well in January until I ran in to issues with dead feet which was related to doing too much too soon FFS! But ok, pulled back training a little so I had more recovery time and that helped fix the issues with dead feet. Then the 2nd week of February I got man flu (and we all know how serious that is!) so that was pretty much the end of training until March 5 when the Cambridge run was on.

The next objective is to go under 2 hours for a half this year!

[Linked Image]
Im on the right.

Regards

Mailman
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/08/17 03:04 PM

Half marathon (Wikipedia): 21.0975 kilometres (13.1094 mi)

Oh, hell no! nope And you run these without tunes? tuner Triple hell no!

Good for you, Mailman. cheers Looks like you're still in good shape.

5k is enough for me and even then I brisk walk most of it (my fastest brisk walk matches my wife's slowest pace jog). The body is often willing but the feet are quick to protest. Weight makes a huge difference on my feet, no matter my fitness level. Of course we start in the back with the walkers (our 5k's are run/walk) and at the moment aren't wearing numbers/chips.

Love my shoes (were $100.00, that's allot for me to spend on shoes)...
Asics Gel-Cumulus 16 Blue/White/Black ( T439N-4201 )

Last year in Houston (no running but lots of walking)...

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Posted By: mailman

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/08/17 04:26 PM

Well, here is a before and after before I started running and looking after myself a couple years ago smile

Regards

Mailman

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/08/17 05:00 PM

WOW! notworthy

When you notice your Mrs. constantly placing her hands on your chest and feeling your arms, you know you're doing something right! biggrin

Looking good, Mailman.
Posted By: mailman

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/09/17 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
WOW! notworthy

When you notice your Mrs. constantly placing her hands on your chest and feeling your arms, you know you're doing something right! biggrin

Looking good, Mailman.


Its when other women start doing that mate! hahaha

But yeah, left picture is from 2015 where I was slowly, actually...quickly eating my way in to the grave. Right hand picture is from last year...still a work in progress but the thing that really changed for me was my mind set! You can do all the hard work etc BUT if you don't change how your mind works and thinks about things like food you are wasting your time.

Regards

Mailman
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/09/17 01:27 PM

I'd agree with you on that totally Mailman. It took me quite a while to get my mind set on it last year when I dropped almost 5 stone. Now I'm working on reversing the weight I put on over the new year. It's damn hard,living alone,too easy to pig out on crap all the time,no-one to keep fit for (I'm single and staying that way). Not easy.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/09/17 03:13 PM

I can relate Chucky, I ate a lot of junk the past three days, but today back to order...

Seems there's a direct relation between stuff bothering me mentally and my appetite vor McDonalds.

Still, had the discussion with a colleague my age today... married for two years now, baby girl, relationship for ten years... he's putting on weight. Of course it's easier if - like me - you're actively dating around and thus the motivation is automatically there. But heaven help him if he becomes Single at 40 or 45.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/10/17 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by mailman
Originally Posted by MarkG
WOW! notworthy

When you notice your Mrs. constantly placing her hands on your chest and feeling your arms, you know you're doing something right! biggrin

Looking good, Mailman.


Its when other women start doing that mate! hahaha


I hear ya. The only thing that makes living with the nagging ol' ball and chain tolerable is knowing that come Friday evening, I'm taking my girlfriend out (this chick I dated in high school). She kinda looks like my wife, even has the same Cajun accent, but is a much snazzier dresser and allot more fun to be around. If our schedules allow, we sometimes spend the entire weekend together. But then by Monday morning it's always back to the same ol' same ol'. This arrangement is working well for the three of us and they both seem to like my body transformation. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/10/17 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
I can relate Chucky, I ate a lot of junk the past three days, but today back to order...

Seems there's a direct relation between stuff bothering me mentally and my appetite vor McDonalds.

Still, had the discussion with a colleague my age today... married for two years now, baby girl, relationship for ten years... he's putting on weight. Of course it's easier if - like me - you're actively dating around and thus the motivation is automatically there. But heaven help him if he becomes Single at 40 or 45.


It's easy to settle too much, to become too comfortable (I've got pics on this thread that show that). It's figuring out how to work together to fix it or even keep it from happening in the first place (and at some point health problems are going to force the issue).

I deleted my previous post, wasn't well thought out. Point was, with diet and fitness, a long-term couple has to figure out where they're compatible and where they're not.

When I cook and make plates, I have to make a consciences effort to cut it 55/45 to 60/40 as my wife is only a little more than half my body weight. But when it comes to desserts (more her thing than mine) she can eat more because she burns it off easier. The pics I saw of what they splurged on in Oklahoma would have set me back a couple of weeks, while she's maintaining ~106 to ~108 lbs. (~49 kg). We're coming around full circle now, it's what got me in so much trouble in the first place, matching her eating habits when she was trying to gain weight for our wedding (pre-internet, knows now that junk food wasn't the proper way). If I were an ectomorphic Barney Fife it would be no problem, I could relax a little. Now she's in maintenance mode (weight/size-wise) while I'm struggling to lose (stomach) and keep my weight under obesity, even as she pushes me physically.

I was already obese at 21 (bigger pic) and 23 (smaller pic), second pic late-20's (w/mother-in-law)...



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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/17/17 07:20 PM

Loving the time change, treadmill collecting dust now (unless it's raining). I'd much rather be outdoors in the evenings on a track enjoying my tunes.

Tried getting into my 'new' old-school 36"W 501's I bought back in Dec. for going out tonight. Nope, no give/stretch at all, not very forgiving and *I'm* not wearing tight jeans. eek Oh well, maybe next Friday for the Molly Ringwalds (next week will be the first major yard work of the season which always slims me down a little).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/31/17 03:28 PM

Are we going to have a good April?

I have a *huge* month coming up, starting tomorrow morning (April 1) with a 5k at LSU (for epilepsy) [just found out, date moved to 4/22, bah!]. I'm now covering 5k (3.1 miles) on my treadmill at a hair under 40 min. which would be a terrible time for a seasoned runner, especially on a treadmill, but good for me. I hope I can do the same on actual pavement tomorrow, my feet are feeling fine (after limping all day on Sat.) I told my wife not to ease off when I start falling behind, I like the competition (even a little friendly trash talking would be motivational). smile

The week of April 16, oh my! eek2 Wife is taking the week off and the first part of the week she's scheduled many appointments for us: physicals, dentist, dermatologist, eyes (says I'm also due for a hearing test), everything but a colonoscopy (not until Sept.). I forgive her because the rest of the week she's made plans for four events of very pleasant walking...

1. Pensacola Naval Aviation Museum (4/20): The place is *huge*, I never could cover it in a day (including outside displays) because I didn't have the stamina, my feet hurt and my legs rubbed together and chafed.

2. Pensacola Beach (4/21): Just a nice and very long walk on the beach, see how much ground (sand) we can cover.

3. Air show (including Blue Angels) in New Orleans (4/22 or 4/23): Everyone who goes to airshows knows they usually include lots of walking, just from your car to the spectator areas, and lots more as you walk along the runway and check out all the exhibits. This will be the first time I see an F-35 in person (static display).

4. The National WWII Museum (formally known as the "D-Day Museum"): It's been so long that I don't remember how much walking is involved in the museum itself, they've added on since I've been so I imagine quite a bit. We'll probably park at the river (regular French Quarter parking) and walk to the museum, also walk the Quarter so it'll be at least 3 or 4 miles in total, likely more.

My 50th BD is now exactly 5 months away (8/31), plenty of time to finish what I started but feeling the pressure as I get closer to receiving my AARP package (assuming they send these to everyone turning 50).

EDIT: Also, part 2 of our walking tour of downtown Baton Rouge on the 14th, the Friday which starts her April vacation.

2nd EDIT: We were also going to include the USS Alabama (driving through Mobile) but chose the WWII Museum instead. It's possible we might do both if there's time (that would be freggin; awesome!).

Hope everyone else has a productive April.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/18/17 05:42 PM

Nothing got snipped at the dermatologist this morning, yea! Off to the dentist in a moment (routine), physicals tomorrow.

A little project my father and I will be working on soon (see pic)...

They're almost done moving their stuff, recently brought over most of his very old iron weight set, except for a few bigger plates. They've been neglected but he could never part with them, some of these (the plain solid ones) were hand made by his brother (the one I've posted about the plane incident in Vietnam).

We're going to pick up a sand blaster from Harbor Freight to clean them up and then paint them with his compressor sprayer, probably a pretty red like they use to be. It's very cool to me, to have such a classic weight set.

I'm now maxing my bench and barbell (i.e. 130 lbs. bench press, 2 sets of 10) and also using my biggest 30 lbs. dumbbells for dumbbell flys (butterfly curls). I'll add a third set before increasing weights, by then I should have my upgraded iron weights ready to use.

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/18/17 06:00 PM

What actually happened to your "internet ban" wink ?

Cool story about that old iron. Let us see how it turns out. Might be tricky to get the paint permanent and not chip off?

I need to get back into my routine. Too much other stuff going on that drained my willpower... thankfully weight still holds.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/18/17 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
What actually happened to your "internet ban" wink ?

Yeah, that was suppose to last for 6 months, but only lasted 2. duh

I was *suppose* to just come back to explain why all my pics had disappeared (that I hadn't croaked), but I ended up staying (while replacing many pics with the new Attachment feature). Then I had to keep going online for event schedules and to get tickets, while wife realizes now how much she used Facebook to schedule stuff with family and a couple of good friends.

Sooo...we try to really limit our time online now. I'm doing much better spending less time here than I use to, wife is doing even better than I am. She does Facebook (or Instagram or whatever) for no more than an hour a day (usually after our evening walk/run and/or workout). I know I can do better still, like with counting calories, it's finding that illusive balance. It helps that I'm spending allot more time outside now.


Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
Cool story about that old iron. Let us see how it turns out. Might be tricky to get the paint permanent and not chip off?

I asked about that, dad said it stays on pretty well if you keep the weights indoors. He has a single red homemade one-piece 15 lbs. (6.8 kg) dumbbell in his bedroom that still looks great, and he's had it for as long as I can remember (when I was a little kid). Clanking around on a barbell might be a different story, though.


Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
I need to get back into my routine. Too much other stuff going on that drained my willpower... thankfully weight still holds.

I'm doing fantastic with my regular routine (about to head to the track after posting) but my weight and waist are barely improving. VERY frustrating considering my daily diet and routine, but that's life at 49.5 years, I guess. At least for the moment I'm feeling really good, aches and pains are minimal during and after working out.

Years ago I feared that my teeth would fall out or that my heart would explode in my chest. Now, as a 50 year-old man, it's the potential side effects of the blood pressure medication I'm taking. I gotta get off this crap before age catches up with me (never the "little blue pill" for me if I can help it - the beginning of the end). I'm hoping at tomorrow's physical that my dosage is at least reduced, but I *have* to finish losing the weight, I think, if I'm to get off of them completely. Pressure was good at the dentist today (routine cleaning).

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Pensacola (Naval Aviation Museum) in a couple of days, not happening now. frown Instead of being there on the 20th, I'll be taking my wife back to the dentist to have some filling work done (discovered today during our cleanings). No use risking it (advised that we didn't wait on this) so we'll try Pensacola again in June.

Still have the Blue Angels this weekend in New Orleans, though! dance Our dentist, Dr. Fallin (we talk aircraft more than teeth) and some of his staff will also be there. Looks like rain on Saturday (90% thunderstorms) so we're planning on Sunday (unless the forecast changes). Again, I plan on doing lots of walking on that day (and no bad eating), but going to have to put the WWII Museum off as well, now. Damn. frown
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/20/17 03:09 PM

Bad news is that I'm not coming off the meds and I may be on them for life, no matter how healthy/slim I get (genetics).

Good news is that my Losartan Potassium has gone from 100 to 50 mg (Amlodipine Besylate staying at 5 mg) so at least I'm getting a reduction.

Even better news is that neither is known to cause ED, those are diuretics and something else (I forget).

Still, I want to get off meds completely if possible (these are my only ones) as every med usually has *some* side effect. Our GP is in his late 40's, very fit and trim, loves our attitude and progress. Wife continues to be med free. Follow-up appointment at the end of May.

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/18/17 02:41 AM

Two evenings in a row now, on real pavement (vs. the treadmill), we've run a half mile (.8 km) twice (1 mile separated by a break), the rest of 3+ miles just brisk walking. I know it's not much for the runners here, but we're getting back some cardio we've been neglecting. Yoga (not me, yet) is great for core and flexibility, weight training for strength, but cardio has been best for burning fat and bringing down my blood pressure (taken every other day).

I don't particularly enjoy running (jogging), it's tolerable to me only if the music is right, and I know it's hard on the body. I just want one decent official 5k time in my lifetime (not like I'm running that far) and then I'll become more leisurely with it, sticking with the much softer treadmill for any running. Brisk walks I'll always enjoy.

Our sites are now set on the annual Baton Rouge Zoo 5k in August, we plan to run it complete and I'll post our times (we'll be numbered and chipped). Hope it's not as hot as last time.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/17 05:14 PM

What is it with all the ~90 day programs? P90X, Body for Life (12 weeks), ~90 days seem to be a regular occurrence...

http://www.livestrong.com/article/365392-90-day-workout-plans/

Well, in 90 days I turn 50, and today I've started following my own plan, now going balls out on healthy eating and especially workouts. I may not reach my BMI goal but that's ok, I know that body fat percentage and waist measurement are more important. Wife is ready to ditch the scale anyway, she goes by her clothes now, weight is irrelevant (and we get weighed at least annually anyway for our physicals...shoes and clothes on). I just can't seem to get out of the 190s and I know too much of it is still in the belly.

90 days full throttle, I hope I don't hurt myself. smile
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/17 06:48 PM

I'm no fan of short intensive programs. They may be too much for you to sustain, and in any case, even if they work if you consider them 'done' and revert to bad habits once you are done they haven't really accomplished much.

Better to find a balance where you can bear to sustain it 'forever' with modest allowances for misbehaviour, and to keep at useful and sustainable things (e.g build a garden wall, use a mechanical pusher mower, replace shopping by car with bikes or a rucksack - or replace commuting to work by walking or cycling (if you *must* drive or use public transport because of distance/terrain, then parking some reasonable distance away and walking a significant part of it is still better than door to door). If you get in your 'minimum' recommended activity in your daily movement to and fro, then failure to be consistent with additional 'fitness' training is far less damaging than if you structure things so you *have* to do the 45 minutes on the exercise bike or lifting weights. You can still try to do both, but have the flexibility to modify activity and diet to suit what you actually find yourself doing.
Posted By: rwatson

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/17 09:37 PM

might seem a basic question but where does a 698 year old man start,,Been sitting on my ass since my mate passed and in horrible shape..what are the basic excesses I could use to stretch out things.. not looking to be Arnold but need some guidance as to where to start ..i'm not over weight at 6'3" 180 but having troubles moving around and decided it's not to late to feel good,,Thanks for any basic advice
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/17 09:58 PM

Lieste...

Oh, I agree with having a consistent maintainable healthy lifestyle. But from what I can tell, systems like P90X and Body for Life aren't really for beginners, but for people who are already in half decent shape (assuming they're already living a reasonably healthy lifestyle) but just want guidance to help them kick it up a notch. I use Body for Life as an example because I have the book (purchased from a Goodwill for either $1 or $2) and it has given me some ideas.

I thought the timing was good for me to give it that final push, not just because I'm in my final days of my 40's, but because right now I'm really feeling pretty good. Whatever roaming aches and pains (maybe inflammations) I had have all but disappeared, I can comfortably sleep on my sides now and push myself harder on my workouts. Only my feet remain sore the next day when I'm hard of them, causing me to limp a little, a problem I believe is still weight related.

One of the changes I made this morning, for example, is drinking my two cups of coffee black (vs. a couple of packets of artificial sweetener and plenty of half-n-half). I can deal for 90 days, maybe I'll even acquire a taste for it, or at least cut back what I've been adding. I've acquired a taste for several foods that I didn't eat until my 40's, some I thought I didn't like and others I'd never tried before. So it can happen.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/02/17 11:02 PM

rwatson, I'm very sorry to hear of your loss.

I think most of my just-do-it attitude and motivation is knowing my wife's family history. Her father died of a heart attack in his sleep at age 32 (she was 2). He was a very thin man (5'-11" [180.3 cm] and 130 lbs.[59 kg]) but wasn't at all frail from what I've been told, a hard worker with a hearty appetite, but also had a heart defect and was a heavy smoker (and was warned). His brother (also an extreme ectomorph [really skinny]) is still alive, even after having open heart surgery a few years back. Even with our current healthy lifestyle (since 2008) and routine cardiology checkups, I worry a little. Every morning is a sense of relief when she moseys over to me (I usually sleep too deep to hear her phone alarm).

Pic showing how lean my wife's father was...

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Man, you're sure not fat (BMI: 22.5)! I'd have to weigh 153 lbs. (69.4 kg) to match that! biggrin My brother (age 55) is now in the 150's (same 5'-9" [175.3 cm] height) and still has a beer belly (or so he claims) so we're figuring out that we really don't have the same body type as I once thought. His wrists and ankles are smaller than mine, apparently he's more of an ectomorph which would explain why he never got fat with his often poor diet, and how it's difficult for him to put on muscle as he's been working out as well.

I don't know where I'd start, I've always been more about weight loss and that's not a problem you have. I think I would start with long walks [and stretches] and if you have the room, look into getting a small set of dumbbells. My father is about to turn 79 and has no interest anymore in laying on a bench doing presses or barbell overheads and curls, but almost every evening he does a small workout in his bedroom with dumbbells. He says it helps his arthritis in his shoulders, as well as keeping his strength up. He's always kept his physique in check though, also still kayaks and canoes.

Dad in 1977 (brother, dad, sister and me, mom taking pic)...

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Posted By: rwatson

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/04/17 10:23 AM

Mark I have started some stretching excersies Got myself some rubber bands from Amazon,,good enough to get started..And take mt 80# Lab for a brisk walk twice a day,,I know I'll never get back to Marine Corps standards but I feel I'm wasting away and it's time to get off mt arse and get down..I've managed to skip the butts for a month now and breathing well and wish to bring it to the next level
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/14/17 03:52 PM

rwatson, fantastic with the smoking. I was encouraged to stop when I started dating as a teen, before it became a problem. I'm thankful for that now, sometimes it's not so bad to let a woman change you.

Still, while I've never intentionally went looking to breathe in second hand smoke, I've always enjoyed a kinda seedy smoky bar-like atmosphere (unless I'm eating), I actually miss it.

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Continuing to work on moderation, showing (first pic) my mid-morning trailmix snack bowls getting even smaller (now ~1/4 cup [28g] or one serving size)...

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The bench I want was in the Sunday sale paper at Academy (second pic)...

I don't like the looseness of the squat station holders, but that can be fixed with holes and pins. Just not enough room yet, but I'm pretty sure this is the one I want. If I were just getting started, I might have considered this entire set (gyms are expensive, too far away and I really don't like them).

The price on dumbbells is pretty good. My Coscto set (also CAP brand, like most) was $0.99/lbs. but included the stand. Still, my heaviest weight is 30 lbs. and this price goes up to 50 lbs. so I'm thinking of adding to my set.

My father found the rest of his iron weights and we'll be refurbishing them as soon as they're settled in. Two of the plates have much larger holes than normal (just a screw-up) but it's so much weight already, I may never need them.

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Posted By: rwatson

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/14/17 04:11 PM

Broke down and joined a gym up the road not huge place but got the necessary stuff..Lot of college kids go there but I'm up at 4 AM I take the dog and tie her to a post outside where I can see her,,Hell the cnight cop knows her name but not mine.., and we take a walk after...Wish I knew my family history but never met any of them..feel good enough to go mow the lawn but not stupid enough to do it in this heat..Still not smoking and was crazy to start back up after 5+ years quit...Not a fan on some of the nature foods I just eat sensible and no junk crap usually a pizza once a month..
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/14/17 05:26 PM

I wouldn't mind a small gym late at night or early morning when it's quiet. Weights aren't that expensive but a decent treadmill will cost you. I like ours but it's not really heavy-duty gym quality, nor is my weight bench, of course. If there was a smaller gym nearby, I would have probably gone that route, maybe keep a cheap weight set in case I couldn't make the gym.

The thing about family history, as in my wife's case, is that back then they didn't have the technology they have today. Who knows how long her father (who died in 1970, my pic above was his last driver's license) would have lived with today's medicine? She's had a heart murmur (as do her siblings) since her late 30's, so she takes everything heart-related extremely seriously. I have my own potential problems to look forward to, we're just trying to be proactive and preventative as possible.

She was also told then that she'd likely need a valve repair, possibly replacement, when she turned 60 (about to turn 50). That has since been rescinded, don't know if modern medicine has changed or if our lifestyle since 2008 has made that big a difference (she was also taken off Lipitor, no longer needed). I'm thinking the later, diet and exercise has made the difference, because some of my problems have also disappeared (macular degeneration). Heck, my eyesight even improves sometimes on my checkups (been in glasses since 2nd grade, wearing contacts in the early 90's lasted only a year)!

About junk food, I can live without it now (and we bought our first house partly because of convenience to fast food alley, listed on our house-shopping checklist as a big plus). But when we do splurge, it's darn good. Sometimes it upsets my stomach, sometimes not, but it always makes me want more and I know I have to wait weeks, if not months until the next splurge (nothing convenient to our house really helps allot). We don't waste a rare splurge on McDonald's or Burger King though, we have our favorite more upscale burger and pizza joints, and we savor every bite.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/17 03:30 AM

This evening we decided to walk/run the track behind the hospital in Zachary (closest real town to us) as we needed to hit the Home Depot nearby. We didn't see it going but coming back, wife screams, "Captain D's!" whoohoo

Yup, they must have built it quick, was a complete surprise (normally we know when something's coming). Of all the fast food in town (the usual suspects) the one thing we never had was a Captain D's, the most tempting to us. Oh man, the fried clams, hushpuppies and fries, soft buttery breadstick (plus another instead of slaw), dipping into cocktail and honey mustard sauce. The fish is...ok (still better than Long John Silver's, IMO, which I never cared for) and the shrimp is too expensive IMO for fast food quality. The fried clam dinner, however, when D's is on top of their game, is a pretty good value.

Going to have to do it once, maybe this weekend, to see if this one is any good, then try to forget about it (like we did our new Zaxby's). It won't derail us or anything (nothing could at this point) but it's just another example of temptation that we have to constantly deal with, you can't help but smell these places when you drive by them. There were times at the airshow when I was ready to give in, just the smell of all the deep frying made it tough to avoid.

EDIT: Just checked, this is the only Captain D's in the Baton Rouge area and the only one within 80 miles of us. We haven't had D's in over 10 years (Jax, FL).
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/17 04:03 AM

MarkG, I want to encourage you to keep up any and every diet and exercise related endeavor you engage in. I just got out of the hospital for a stroke (not massive) and you definitely want to avoid that (duh, right?).

Anyway, back on-topic. My diet now consists of low sodium, low fat, and low sugar. I just started so I'm keeping it simple. Whole wheat bread, smart balance spread, sugar free Smuckers jelly, and so forth. My new best friend is lean ground turkey - in moderation it goes excellent with some whole wheat pasta and heart smart Prego sauce.

As for the rest, I simply stick to the dietary suggestions and restrictions on the print-out my dietitian gave me. I was pleasantly surprised to see a daily allowance/limit of two beers on there, but that will have to wait as I stay away from alcohol until I have gotten my weight, blood pressure, and blood work results to satisfactory levels.

As for exercise, bicycling is my favorite.

So there it is, heart-healthy diet in moderation and moderate exercise.

Oh. I almost forgot - monthly trips to my new favorite candy store - CVS pharmacy. I'm currently taking 7 medications all of which center around controlling my blood pressure and cholesterol.
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/17 04:16 AM

By the way MarkG, I just read your Captain D's temptation post and it reminded me of a similar but relatively odd experience I have had, except it is not a restaurant-related. Instead it is the Game of Thrones books. If you haven't read them, let me tell you something. While the HBO series is known to show a lot of skin, the books are not as graphic. I mean, you know the sex is going on but not really in detail. Now the meals - that's a whole other story. George R. R. Martin, unlike any other author I have read so far, puts an obscene amount of detail into what the characters are eating. That's the real porn - except you can't just rub your belly to make this hunger go away - if you get my drift (nudge nudge, wink wink). Once or twice I even tried to emulate a couple of dishes he described in the books. Oh well, back to my regularly scheduled stomach growling. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/17 01:04 PM

Woah, letterboy1! Sorry to hear that. Here's to a full recovery!

My brother-in-law (wife's older brother by a couple of years) had a major stroke in his mid-40's (undiagnosed diabetes) that almost killed him, went to a Houston rehab center for a while, eventually made a full recovery. Been about four years since we've seen him (unfortunate situation) but to my knowledge, sadly, he's still not doing anything about his weight and lifestyle. I hope he starts turning it around, I really do, as well as others in our family. I know how hard it is, been almost a decade for me now and it's still a struggle, always will be.

Food porn?! LOL. I know that I'm going to have to go the rest of life always being a little hungry, especially when turning in for the night. I think it's the extra fat cells my body created, you can shrink them but you can't lose them (without liposuction), and they're also sending messages to the brain that they want to be fed.

I limit myself to three alcoholic drinks a week (1 drink = 1.5 oz. shot, beer or glass of wine). My wife's limit is two, which has her feeling pretty good, although her cardiologist allows for more. Usually on date nights and all at one time, getting a nice relaxing buzz which last for no more than a couple of hours, one of the simple pleasures in life. smile My days of heavy drinking (and eating), even on a cruise ship, have long since been over.

I normally ignore these internet poster thingies, but this one made me chuckle (find whatever motivation you can to keep that heart strong)...

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/17 01:55 PM

I was thinking about this thread the other day.
I had to do some physical therapy for a torn bicep a couple of months ago, and I sneaked in trying out some extra exercise machines while there and found I liked it. Added in some walking. My diet isn't bad, but I stepped it up. Watching the calories, fat etc a lot more closely and keeping around 1600-1800 calories a day. Nothing that comes frozen or in a wrapper. I've already cut out salt as I'm on some blood pressure and water pill meds. Lost about 13 lbs. so far.
Continuing my PT at home, but also joined the Y a couple of weeks ago. Used to enjoy cycling, but not so much now. Really like the recumbent stationary bike at the gym and the programs it can do, so that works out. They have a ton of machines that I like a lot more than free weights and resistance bands, so that's good for holding my interest. Going three times a week for about an hour and a half a session.
I don't drink much these days, but I made my weekly reward allowing myself a soft drink on Fri, Sat and Sun. I'm not out for crazy fast weight loss but something steady and sustainable I enjoy. So far so good. I doubt its coming off fast, but I'm feeling pretty good over all regardless.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/16/17 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
I was thinking about this thread the other day.
I had to do some physical therapy for a torn bicep a couple of months ago, and I sneaked in trying out some extra exercise machines while there and found I liked it. Added in some walking. My diet isn't bad, but I stepped it up. Watching the calories, fat etc a lot more closely and keeping around 1600-1800 calories a day. Nothing that comes frozen or in a wrapper. I've already cut out salt as I'm on some blood pressure and water pill meds. Lost about 13 lbs. so far.
Continuing my PT at home, but also joined the Y a couple of weeks ago. Used to enjoy cycling, but not so much now. Really like the recumbent stationary bike at the gym and the programs it can do, so that works out. They have a ton of machines that I like a lot more than free weights and resistance bands, so that's good for holding my interest. Going three times a week for about an hour and a half a session.
I don't drink much these days, but I made my weekly reward allowing myself a soft drink on Fri, Sat and Sun. I'm not out for crazy fast weight loss but something steady and sustainable I enjoy. So far so good. I doubt its coming off fast, but I'm feeling pretty good over all regardless.


There isn't anything fundamentally wrong with frozen. More with processed fast foods. It is arguable that frozen vegetables last longer and have better nutritional value than anything except freshly harvested - most which have been displayed at a store and then kept for a few days at home are less fresh than frozen veg.

I only tend to buy fresh veggies as a 'walking snack' and use (nearly) exclusively frozen for regular at home use.
Fresh fruit is something I buy in small amounts as it is much easier to use by browsing and rarely go to waste.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/03/17 04:35 PM

Confession...

The month of June (mainly the last 3 weeks) has probably been our worst month with diet and fitness since we started working on it back in 2008! We quit working out, lost our small amount of jogging stamina (half-heartedly tried yesterday evening, we could only walk, although it's been very hot and humid) and we've been eating terribly (both quantity and quality). This morning I had to go digging through my larger size clothes containers to find something to wear, both shorts and t-shirt (glad I didn't give them away, I'll always keep one or two larger sizes just in case).

Wife...I usually only mention the positives when talking about the Mrs. (I'm not totally stupid smile ). But she's been hitting the drive-thrus and restaurants with me (oh man, our new Capt. D's is consistently good!). She's having the same problem with her clothes as I am, back to the clothes containers.

Oh man, the damage just a couple of weeks or so can do! Seriously. What blows is that we've been really busy moving and cleaning stuff so it's not like we're just sitting on our asses! But apparently it's not enough to offset constant take-outs and (when we're not too scuzzy) sit-down restaurants, some days eating 2 out of 3 meals out, and not even trying to be healthy with it. The joy of turning 50, you can rack up some weight *quickly* (in absolute gains or percentages). Even my father is getting a gut and that's not like him at all.

Not panicked though! We know why it happened and now that my parent's move is over, we can get back to our healthy routine...but not until July 5th. readytoeat
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/05/17 02:46 PM

You fall off the wagon, have some fun with it, then get back on it before it gets totally out of control.

Approximate damage assessment as of this morning: Me 14 lbs. (6.3 kg) and wife 5 lbs. (2.2 kg). Not the end of the world (includes lots of sodium induced bloated water weight, I'm sure) and we wanted to enjoy that one last splurge in our 40's, possibly for the last time ever as I don't see the situation of the past 3 weeks being repeated (house moving, cleaning and closing). No one's had the time or energy to cook so we've been eating most meals out. There's a restaurant only 1/4m from my parent's house called "DC Grill" and oh man do they have good poboys (fried shrimp, oysters and catfish) and onion rings.

What I learned the past 3 weeks is...

1. You *have* to eat at home. I can eat out once in a while and relatively healthy, but I can't sustain it over weeks. For example, my homemade salads rock, most fast food and restaurant salads do not. They can be as (or even more) expensive as the less healthier stuff that you have to smell while waiting for your salad. Usually it's just not worth it, and often not even healthier.

2. Once you get use to healthier eating at home, outside foods might seem too salty or sugary rich, but you quickly get use to it, and then you crave it. I'm having withdrawals right now just thinking about fried seafood and hushpuppy leftovers, sitting overnight in a styrofoam container in my refrigerator, soaking up etouffée juices. Damn. All that was missing was good homemade, slightly burnt on top, mac and cheese (even a box of Kraft would do). And a couple of Dr. Peppers.

3. When you stop working out and walking/running you start feeling lethargic, especially in the evening, even after just 3 weeks. Wife's back is becoming sore again, partially from the physical work with my parent's house, but mainly because she's not in yoga (at least once a week). She's going to have to start slowly to get back into it, been over a month now, I think. I wonder if we'll have to reduce our weights tonight when we workout for the first time in weeks. I dunno, but I plan to do more stretching than usual because my back and body aches as well. In fact, I had to take an Ibuprofen when I went to bed last night.

4. If the love life is good, even if for a long time, it can start heading down the crapper in a heartbeat. Then you become more easily irritated and start arguing over little things that you would have normally compromised on or let slide. Some extra stress maybe (for reasons why your routine was disrupted in the first place) but you start losing those feelings, just enough to notice a change. I don't like change, especially this one. So I'm happy to be getting back on the wagon, the occasional hunger pains bad cravings are worth it. But I cannot deny that having that slightly overstuffed feeling while rubbing my belly does feel awfully satisfying...at least at that moment.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/05/17 05:40 PM

I'm pretty frustrated. Had a goo drop in weight 2 weeks ago, but as cramped up as I was, I was probably dehydrated, explaining most of it. Went up the next week, then down the next. I think I'm going to change my weigh in to every 4 weeks instead of weekly to get a better idea. Going to step up to 4 days a week at the Y instead of 3, even if its just an hour on the bike. Breakfast is now grapefruit, banana and strawberries w/ some whipped cream. Surprisingly, it holds me off better than a bowl of healthy cereal. And raw local honey, a tbspn twice a day, kind of an experiment for allergies.
Hoping to fend off getting discouraged, I figured with my diet so much better and working out for the firt time ever that things wold go faster. It's all a learning experience!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/05/17 09:46 PM

RK, we're ~50 and living in the Deep Fried South, but dammit, we'll put up the good fight! biggrin

I also buy local honey from a beekeeper who lives not far from us, and I use it to sweeten my Quaker Oats and coffee. I tried going straight black but I couldn't get past the aftertaste.

This thread has enough age on it to see patterns of success and failure, and something I've noticed is that whenever I try going gung-ho, it doesn't last (for whatever reasons) and I fail. Sooo...just going to try keep it reasonable and constant.

I said earlier that, "...the occasional hunger pains are worth it." It's really more like "cravings" because I refuse to go hungry, but I sometimes crave something different and/or that really full feeling. Fortunately I have an excellent support system with my wife and parents as we're all on the same page, despite our recent splurging (which was my fault for extending it as closing was delayed).

I'm the only one of my siblings (older bother and sister) who has a problem with food/weight. My bother (same 5'-9" [175 cm]) recently stopped eating so much ice cream w/cashews at night and is now under 150 lbs. (68 kg). Holy crap! Our friendly race to a 32" waist is over, he's below that now. As the loser, I owe him and his a Sammy's (local restaurant) fried seafood platter on their next visit to BR! smile

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 12:53 PM

Last night's workout felt really good, will probably be a little sore today but I lost no strength. In the future I'll try to limit any splurges/binges to a single day.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3vlj8mUiPA
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 01:04 PM

My treat is a soft drink Fri, Sat and Sun, but I rarely finish them. I figure 3 a week is good. I won't quit my sweet tea, but I do limit to one glass. Otherwise I'm water and vitamin water, or a small POM. I'm upping my magnesium, potassium and water a lot after a week of cramps so bad I could barely move my arms and legs. It's worked, I recover well now. Still don't like bananas much, but I eat 'em.
I wish I knewmore about the workout side. I don't know if its better to stretch out a workout a lot or go up in weight with fewer reps when weight loss is the main goal. On the recumbent bike, I target a certain bpm, depending on if I'm working out next vs just doing a longer harder ride.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 02:21 PM

January 2017; weighed in at a whopping 298 lbs. Fast forward to June 5th 2017, 282 lbs. As of yesterday, 254 lbs. Goal by end of the year: 180 lbs.
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by 531 Ghost
January 2017; weighed in at a whopping 298 lbs. Fast forward to June 5th 2017, 282 lbs. As of yesterday, 254 lbs. Goal by end of the year: 180 lbs.

Don't give up the fight if you have a setback is the best advice I can give you.
Plus great job! thumbsup


Wheels
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 03:24 PM

Thanks Wheels. My diet since 5 June has been:

Dannon Lite And Fit Yogurt 2 per day.
64+ oz water per day
Premier Protein drinks, 2 per day.
Chicken or Fish, roughly 2oz for supper (before 6 PM).

I'll be mixing in some soft veggies, less fibrous this week.

Exercise: walking between an hour, to an hour and a half per day.
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 03:40 PM

That is a tough diet to sustain over the long haul so just be careful when you start adding more variety to your diet or the pounds could come back in a hurry.


Wheels
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 04:46 PM

I've been struggling. I'm still around two stone heavier than my best from last year. Maybe 5 stone was too much to lose in 10 months?

Plus I've been in a lot of back and neck pain. The Physio says I'm not too bad for my age apart from a few joints that need working on.I'm working through various stretches he's told me to perform. Still hitting the pain-killers more than I'd like though.

Also the dreaded IBS has reared its ugly head again. Endoscopy and blood tests have ruled out anything nasty though. I guess I'm just feeling a little low and you know how food helps with a low mood.

I'm still walking and cycling when possible,just not as much as last year.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by 531 Ghost
January 2017; weighed in at a whopping 298 lbs. Fast forward to June 5th 2017, 282 lbs. As of yesterday, 254 lbs. Goal by end of the year: 180 lbs.


Wow, that's one heckuva June!
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 08:11 PM

I've been slacking. Summer time really somehow takes my discipline away, it's like I'm on vacation and can't be arsed. Maybe also because it's really damn hot here.

Can't complain, keeping the weight and shape, but come fall I want to drop another 2-3% bodyfat to finally get into the 12% range.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/06/17 09:13 PM

If I was still trying to do this riding my bike, it just wouldn't work. Way too hot (not to mention it's just plain painful). Going to the gym, I do it on autopilot without thinking about it. If it meant going out to ride PLUS deal with the heat, that makes it much harder because you start thinking and dreading. It's not even August yet. LOL
Posted By: KraziKanuK

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/07/17 12:16 AM

Ride in your a/c house with a rear axle stand.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/07/17 12:39 AM

I have a trainer for my bike, but it's monotonous and dull since there's no variation. At the gym, I use a recumbent that has programs with hills, power levels, monitors heart rate/cals, timer....also it works more muscles and far more comfortable than an upright bike, so I can do a lot more. They have a/c too of course. Then I can hit the equipment. There's a lot to be said for getting out of the house and away from distractions. I don't even answer my phone.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/07/17 01:11 AM

531 Ghost is kicking losing ass! thumbsup

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RK, are you talking about POM Wonderful (pomegranate juice)? I buy the large containers at Costco and down a shot every evening as a nightcap...

1.5 oz (full shot glass) = 30 cal., 112.5 potassium, 7 carbs and 6 sugars, if I'm doing the math correctly.

I don't know if it truly helps men stay...healthy <cough>...but the sweetness (carbs and sugar) helps me feel satisfied (in the stomach area) before turning in. I also do a single square of Lindt 80% dark chocolate (also claiming to benefit men, even better being 90% though) and swapped the nightcap Cup of Joe for POM.

I believe that anything claiming to be beneficial for men is really just suppose to be heart healthy and good for the circulatory system, so you can't go wrong there. Although not even Quaker Oats is more heart healthy than a good 80's power ballad, IMO. biggrin

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Chucky, I know in the past I binged a lot when I was feeling down, but I figured better food than booze. I'm also a big-time stress eater, as with the past 3 weeks and especially when we were worried about a breast tumor some time back. I have to stop doing that, to recognize when I'm stress eating and to just not do it. They'll be more stressful times and I have to figure out something else to do instead of turning to food.

I was told recently that my attitude was changing, and not for the better. Normally when grocery shopping, even if I'm not enthusiastic about it (and who is?), I at least participate (we split the picking out of produce and meats/seafood, finding new stuff to try, etc.). The last shopping (after eating a delicious hotdog in the food court smile ) was more like, "I need a refill, you keep shopping and I'll uh...come find you when I'm done," then leisurely hitting all the samples (mostly junk) at the end of the aisles on my way to the soda machine, returning ~20 min. later when the shopping was all but done.

That doesn't fly anymore. This lifestyle thing, in my case, has to be a joint effort, and I'm amazed how quickly I reverted back to old habits in such a short period of time.

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Ah man, it's hot as hell here too, and more humid. The problem with late evening walking is the bugs (need to keep some Off in the car).
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/07/17 07:38 AM

Yep, the POM is a good thing when on sale. The small one was on sale for $1, so I loaded up. Lots of potassium etc. That and the Vitamin Water I found (fruit punch?) had more potassium than a banana or Muscle Milk. I usually have one of those after I get home. Seems to help with recovering.

Grocery...it's so expensive these days, and with a teenage soccer player/workout nut that could eat his body weight each day...we plan meals for the week, good snacks, minimize the junk the kids want. We can get in and out, save money and eat a lot healthier. Plus, I like to cook.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/07/17 03:47 PM

Adding to my previous list of what I learned the past 3 weeks...

5. Moderate exercise doesn't balance out a poor diet. If I were younger then maybe it would, but then my diet recently wasn't just poor, it was debauchery.

6. It's easy to crawl back onto the wagon if you don't wait too long, two days now and we're right back on track. And like I suspected, a good bit of our recent weight gain was just being bloated from all the eating out, it's coming off quickly.

BTW, we're not going to weigh ourselves too often, but my parents have a real scale, a genuine old-fashion doctor's scale with the sliding weights. It's very accurate, very consistent and brutally unforgiving. We'll use it every so often.

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We have a show tonight at LSU and plan to do lots of walking before and after. It won't really bother me until tomorrow but I'll probably have to stay off my feet for most of Saturday, and even on Sunday I'll walk with a serious limp. It's usually much better by Monday (I can go walking on Monday evenings) and gone by Tuesday. Caused by years of acute gout attacks, Plantar Fasciitis and heal spurs, but the severity and recovery period is directly related to my weight, even more so than my fitness. I can't imagine how my feet would feel if I were my brother's weight, being so light on his feet. I can't imagine my wife ever having foot issues either, although she doesn't wear any of her new boots when we're doing a lot of walking (she made that mistake once). Of all the reasons to want to become as light as possible, including getting that spring reattached to my ass to pop me out of bed in the morning, I want my ultra flat feet to feel better.

Of all the pics of myself on SimHQ, my lightest is on the "Placing a face with a name" thread (first post). That pic (2009) updated a fat pic that I started the thread with, and I plan to update it again when I finally surpass that weight. That was on my last cruise, I actually saw the 170's on the ship's digital scale (179.8 lbs. [81.6 kg]). We were running every morning on the ship's track and man did I feel so light on my feet then! I can't wait to get that back.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/07/17 04:40 PM

Losing ass? That ain't all I'm losing! My motorcycle jacket is starting to fit me like an oversized tent! Had to get new riding gloves, twice! Not to mention clothes! I've been shopping at the Goodwill store 'til I reach my goal of 175 +- 10.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/07/17 04:59 PM

How have you lost the weight Ghost? Mostly exercise or have you cut out things like carbohydrates?
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/10/17 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
How have you lost the weight Ghost? Mostly exercise or have you cut out things like carbohydrates?


Sorry for the late reply. Fence installers decided to cut my cable (even though it was clearly marked). No sugars, no breads very little carbs, no carbonated drinks, no alcohol. Proteins and water. I'm averaging 100 +-10 grams protein per day and no less than 64 oz water per day. I walk/move no less than an hour a day (that's 60 consecutive minutes).

Oh, in January, I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. Meds seem to be doing their job. Not to mention, on June 5th, I went in for gastric bypass surgery.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/10/17 10:48 AM

Congrats Ghost!!! I'm happy to see that it is working out for you.


I can honestly do a protein + water diet except for coffee. I just can't live without that. smile
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/10/17 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Congrats Ghost!!! I'm happy to see that it is working out for you.


I can honestly do a protein + water diet except for coffee. I just can't live without that. smile


I can't either I just can't drink caffeinated coffee, tea...
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/10/17 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by 531 Ghost


I can't either I just can't drink caffeinated coffee, tea...



Oh no, I need my caffeine. I get massively bad headaches if my body doesn't get caffeine. biggrin
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/10/17 12:15 PM

I'm starting again from today. Calorie-counting and daily exercise from now on. I really need this to stick this time.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/10/17 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Chucky
I'm starting again from today. Calorie-counting and daily exercise from now on. I really need this to stick this time.



Does that mean no fish and chips? frown
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/10/17 12:20 PM

Not necessarily Panzer. I only tend to have what is called a 'baby fish and chips' nowadays. It's a small piece of fish and a small amount of chips in a tray with mushy peas. I can include that in my diet once in a while if I'm careful the rest of the day.Or go for a 2 hour bike ride.

The days when I could eat a 'man's size fish and chips' have been long gone.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/13/17 06:21 PM

No matter how many times I fall off the wagon (and I don't post them all), I get right back on it and always look at it as a fresh start and one that will stick. You have to look at it this way, "Dammit! I'm going to stick with it this time!" biggrin Also, look at the positives, that even though you may gain some weight back and/or lose some fitness, you haven't gained it *all* back (or even half) nor have you lost *all* of your fitness. And whatever success you've had at your best, you know what it takes to get there and that you *can* do it again. Aging makes it harder, but not impossible.

Friday night's 5-hour concert, followed by Saturday morning's lightning storms (I couldn't have scripted it any better wink ) reminded me that I gotta keep my sh!t together and stop flirtin' with disaster. Giving in to cravings and late-night munchies or being lazy with workouts just ain't worth it. I *have* to stay on the healthy path, I *have* to continue bringing down my blood pressure and I *have* to finish getting this weight off my feet.

I've been doing yard work this morning in the heat, the refrigerated coolness of lunch was very refreshing...

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/16/17 09:22 PM

Just got back from Costco (what a madhouse, never again on a weekend) and we avoided the hotdog/soda and all the end-of-aisle samples. smile Going to try to run our two half-miles this evening when it's cooler (unless it's raining, then we'll use the treadmill). Workouts and wife's yoga back on track. I've already lost 7 of the 14 lbs. I gained in June, wife lost 3 of the 5. Our clothes are more telling than the scale, feeling good and we're going to pull out the clothes containers in a few days to downsize again. So, once again I've dipped back out of obesity (202 lbs. per BMI) and sticking with it.

Thinking back to those 3 weeks of carefree eating out, more observations:

Quality and quantity (quality being what I really enjoy eating, not health-wise). No matter how much I enjoy a large piece of honey glazed salmon with oven roasted veggies (usually asparagus with almond slivers), or grilled shrimp, scallops or whatever (any number of healthier ways to cook seafood), *nothing* [food wise] is as satisfying to me as a big ol' fried seafood platter! Oh man, nothing taste as good to me as dipping fried seafood (shrimp, oysters, crayfish, crab [soft shell and/or stuffed crab], fish, clams) in tarter and cocktail sauce, served with hot soft buttery hushpuppies and something saucy (etouffée or gumbo), and then washing it down with a Dr Pepper (or several). Nothing. If any food is my downfall, there it is. And no food gives me as much of that relaxed and satisfying overstuffed feeling when I'm done.

However, what I've noticed is that [peak enjoyment] only applies to the first several bites. After that, the taste/enjoyment curve plummets, which doesn't happen with healthier baked and grilled dishes (and I mean really healthier, not trashing up a healthier dish). So I might not enjoy the healthier options as much when I first start eating a meal, nor do I get that really full feeling that makes me want to rest or take a nap, but the healthier options typically taste consistently good throughout the meal, down to the last bite. So maybe not as good at first, but better at the end. I don't know if it's psychological (knowing I'm eating better, with no regrets) or that any food that's too breaded, rich, salty or sugary just isn't as enjoyable taste-wise after several bites, although when I'm done I have a more satisfied feeling of being full (stuffed, really).

Today wasn't easy going back to Costco, wife kept reminding me that there's a pot roast that's been cooking in the crock pot since this morning (parents prepped it last night, stuffed it with onion and garlic, then wife added carrots and potatoes and put it on to slow cook). Meh, not really my thing (although I enjoyed it), what I *really* wanted was that $1.50 dog and soda (w/refills).

Reference pics of an *excellent* single large seafood platter (Superbowl 2016) and today's pot roast lunch...

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Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/16/17 09:35 PM

Been a couple weeks since I took to the scale. Surprised the heck out o' me! I'm down to 245! Haven't been this "lite" since 2003!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/17/17 03:17 AM

Man, doesn't that feel great?! I know weight isn't the most important body measurement and that BMI is often flawed for an individual versus average population, but it does provide an easy way to track progress and a way to make comparisons to your former self, in addition to waist size and how you look in older pictures. I never knew my body fat percentage so I can't go by that for comparison, only weight and clothes (and I'm a major [but tidy] clothes hoarder).

My earliest known weight was 152 lbs. (69 kg), as written on my first driver's license at 17 (4-3-85), but I was only 5'-7" (175 cm), I still had another 2" (5 cm) to grow! smile Still (assuming that's accurate), my BMI would have been 23.8, the same as weighing 161 lbs. (73 kg) at my current 5'-9" (175.3 cm).

Can I get there today, or would I even want to? I don't know yet, but I reached just under 180 lbs. (81.7 kg) in 2009 so I was closing in on it. Of course that last ~20 lbs. (9 kg) is the hardest to lose, but I still had some size to my belly, although I could hide it with clothes.

Anyway, I was already steadily putting on weight as a teenager (gone from eating healthy at home to eating elsewhere). My problem then was always having tight rental tuxedo pants (brother's wedding, senior prom, my own wedding). I would put on enough weight between fitting and wearing to make the pants tight. eek I remember at the fitting for my own wedding, requesting to bump up the pants size a little just in case, and they told me it shouldn't be a problem as the waist was adjustable. Looking back at my wedding pics (I was 20), clearly there *was* a problem and I remember not being very comfortable in my tight pants that afternoon. smile

I was 172 lbs. (78 kg) and I clearly remember seeing it on my mother-in-law's scale before I picked up my tux. I knew that if I reached 170 lbs.(77 kg) that I'd probably be uncomfortable and that's exactly what happened. That weight gain just prior to my wedding put my BMI into "Overweight" range (above 168.5 [76.4 kg]) and at the time I'd never even heard of BMI. Soooo... just once in my life (not being a teenager) I'd like to hit that "Normal" weight range, which I believe *is* normal for my body type (not naturally skinny but not big boned [framed], somewhere in the middle of Ectomorph and Mesomorph, leaning towards the latter). Just once. That's what I'm shooting for.

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Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/17/17 11:12 AM

When I joined the Marines in 1978, I weighed in at a whopping, 135! When I graduated boot camp, I weighed in at 150. For the next ten years of my life (in the Marines) I kept my weight to 150. I'll probably never see 150 again, but day by day, I'm getting closer.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/17/17 11:32 AM

I'm currently on my quest to lose 25 lbs. I've cut out fast food entirely and I'm limiting my carbs as much as I can.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/17/17 12:02 PM

Haven't checked in here in a while, happy to see everyone is doing pretty good.

I'm still stuck at 78kg average and currently don't have motivation to drop into the 75s... found a bunch of ready-made sandwiches in stores around which are pretty good nutritional value and taste excellent, so it's easy to not overeat for lunch. But the weekends are killing me... too much party food, alcohol, BBQ invitations.

Been abusing the children's playground outside my office building for abs and arms workouts. Not super motivated for the indoor weights routine with this beautiful weather. Once I acquire a terrace for my apartment I'll definitely setup up an outdoor fitness rack.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/17/17 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by 531 Ghost
When I joined the Marines in 1978, I weighed in at a whopping, 135! When I graduated boot camp, I weighed in at 150. For the next ten years of my life (in the Marines) I kept my weight to 150. I'll probably never see 150 again, but day by day, I'm getting closer.

Man, I bet you were dense! Of course I mean your body, not your mind. biggrin

Curious (having never been military), how did the Marines put on that 15 lbs.? I assume most of it was fitness training (adding muscle), but do they have specialized diets to help you lose or gain weight?

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A pic I found showing visceral fat (the white stuff?) surrounding the vital organs and deforming the frame/joints...

[Linked Image]

I don't know much info about the pic except that it supposedly compares a woman at 250 lbs. (113.4 kg) to one that's 120 lbs. (15.4 kg), height unknown. That fatty white border around the heart of the obese woman is scary as hell.

EDIT: I found some info on that pic and it's the black areas that are visceral fat.

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Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/17/17 03:26 PM

Physical Fitness and a proper *cough* diet. That said, eating in boot camp is quite the experience. I was on what is called the little end of the platoon. So, I was served not long before the guide. The guide, basically got his food, inhaled it and was out the hatch to join the already forming platoon. We were supposed to beat the guide out the hatch, in formation. So, we ALL inhaled our chow. Sometimes, I'd end up leaving my meal behind. There was (at the time) what we called the salad bar privates. I'm not all that sure it would be PC to call them that today.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/18/17 03:23 PM

What little I've heard about military chow time, it doesn't seem like a fair system as some get a few more seconds to scarf down their food than others.

I have a brother-in-law who's retired Army (lived at Fort Polk, Fort Dix and Fort Wainwright) and he used to say when he got out that he was going to grow his hair long and paint his house hot titty pink. Of course he didn't, he was just tired of always being told what he could and couldn't do. I envied him because he wasn't allowed to get fat. smile

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I've made a couple of changes for the better:

1. I usually don't mind drinking water w/lemon over lunch and dinner, unless I'm eating a poboy w/chips, hamburger w/fries, pizza, fried chicken or seafood, or anything heavy. Then I need a soda to wash it down. Since I seldom eat those things, it's not a problem. For breakfast, however, I need something substantial to drink like orange juice or milk. My OJ isn't from concentrate and milk is 2%, but the positive change I've made is that I don't drink from a bigger glass anymore, I use a small juice glass (4 oz. [120 ml). These little glasses were my wife's grandmother's and are working out great to control quantity. If I need something to wash down that last bite or so, I also have my coffee. Wife can keep using the bigger glasses, her preferred breakfast drink is 1 part cranberry juice to 8 parts sparkling mineral water.

2. In bed by 10PM (10:30 at the latest). I've noticed that I tend to start snacking at around 11PM, if I'm still up and about. So whatever I'm doing at 10PM (usually playing on the laptop), I take it to bed. This means my teeth are already brushed, flossed and with night guard/retainer, so if one of the dogs decide they need to go out before I doze off, I'm not so tempted as I walk past the kitchen because I don't want to have to repeat the mouth ritual again. It's easier to turn in earlier now that my parents have their own space and are not in my living room watching the 10 o'clock News. Also, no more having to grab my bathrobe to walk around my own house. smile

Back in the 190's, bring on the 180's! woot
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/30/17 07:47 PM

Not a bad 4 weeks since weigh in. Just under 8 lbs.
No pizza, that kills me even though I love it. Of my Fri/Sat/Sun reward Cokes, I rarely have all three and often don't finish them.
I'm alternating full hour bike days with 30 min plus working out on the machines for about 45 min. More sets, ramping up the weight and going to failure. Pushing for some gains each week. Seems to be paying off! Faster would be better, but we'll see what happens. I'm able to go a 4th day sometimes.
We're going on vacation this week so I'm concerned about my diet and opportunities to use the exercise room at the condo. I hope its a good one. My in laws are going too, so I told them I'd cook. I don't want to get stuck eating pizza. I just can't have that, even in moderation. At least a hamburger I can make with lean meat and not get the fat and salt.
Wish me luck!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/31/17 02:22 PM

Good luck, RK! thumbsup

I played with my PCs all weekend (at one time I had two desktops and two laptops crunching installations on the kitchen table while playing Fleet Defender on a third desktop) while wife watched TV. Just like old times! biggrin

The weekend break from the 'gym' and track was nice (no bad eating, though), but we're getting back on it tonight (currently making a walk/run playlist for The Fixx, concert next month).

Enjoy your vacation with the in-laws, I went on plenty with my mother-in-law and parents.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/04/17 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
My last numbers were...

GLU: 94
ALT: 27
CHOL: 222
TRI: 134
HDL: 42
LDL: 154


Just got some new numbers over the phone, and they are...

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GLU: 96
ALT: 22
CHOL: 192
TRI: 199
HDL: 38
LDL: 114

Serum Creatinine: .73
Bun Creatinine Ratio: 22
Potassium: 5.3
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Sooo...my blood sugar continues on a slow climb. frown I hardly do really sugary stuff like sodas and desserts, but I do eat lots of fruit.
Liver is good (often going weeks between drinks, my alcohol consumption is very moderate now).
Overall cholesterol is better but my good dipped a bit.
Triglycerides...ouch. This concerns me a little.

Creatinine? What the heck is that?
Wife guessed it's kidney related because the nurse (or whoever) told her that my liver and kidney functions were good, and we know from our Jack Russell issue that ALT is related to the liver. I'll look it up later.

Not sure why potassium matters, I'll look that one up too.

I was hoping they'd test my testosterone levels (figured they'd look at more stuff for a 50 year-old) but maybe they don't test your t-levels until after your 50th BD? Or maybe not even then, unless you think you think you have a problem.

I did some really bad eating in June (not sure if it could have affected my numbers ~4 weeks later) and although I'm eating good now, I'm not exercising consistently. I keep sputtering, "Alright, we start today!"

I am so looking forward to the cooler temps of Fall.


EDIT: When I get the paperwork tonight, I'll include the normal ranges to the side of my numbers.
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/04/17 05:39 PM

Potassium is important for heart health though too much is not a good thing.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/04/17 06:13 PM

Yeah, hard to remember what's inthe good range without a cheat sheet. The cholesterol looks pretty close, you cn handle that.
I think you're right about creatinine, they watch that for me due to my stone history. Can't remember whats good though.

As for the T...gotta ask. I did it just for peace of mind a couple of years ago. It was fine, but cost around $150?? not covered by insurance.

Here at the condo, I hit the "exercise room." A recumbent bike and a treadmill. In an enclosed room at the indoor pool and hot tub. No air. Did 30 min and was ready to heave and pass out due to the steam and heat. LOL
Better than nothing.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/04/17 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Potassium is important for heart health though too much is not a good thing.


Had to take Potassium pills for a while because my blood tests said I was too low. Horse pills. Yuck. Ate a lot of bananas too. After my illness, all I can do now is walk for exercise. Ten years a go I was playing drop in hockey 4 days a week, two hours at a time. Great cardio. I miss that great sweat and endorphin release. It was like a runners high, I guess.

As for caffeine, I have a Diet Coke addiction. Just can't stop. That probably isn't helping me health wise, but you got to have some vice. biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/04/17 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Yeah, hard to remember what's inthe good range without a cheat sheet.


I started adding in the ranges and thought, "Oh hell, I might as well just take a pic!" smile

Well, this is what they test a 50 year-old male for on a physical, around here anyway...

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Some of my "good" numbers are borderline, I need to read what all this stuff means and figure out what's important.




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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/05/17 03:29 AM

Doesn't seem that bad to me. You can work on the triglycerides. Got mine down just avoiding wrapped and frozen foods...as in snacks and frozen lunches, I don't mean frozen veggies. Its easy to slip though. LOL I still like some granola bars, but should try making my own.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/05/17 03:32 PM

My efforts could be better, but I figured they were at least enough to put up some good numbers and I'm not so pleased, especially with my worsening Lipid Panel. Wife is kicking my ass right now (although she's also due for new numbers) and cholesterol is a problem that runs in *her* family, not mine, at least before the age of 70. My family history is high blood sugar, and mine continues to creep up. I'm sure all health-related numbers naturally deteriorate as you age, and I'm just not putting in enough effort to offset it.

Between the two of us, I'm the only one on medication. I know the reason they focus on liver and kidney function is to make sure my BP meds aren't affecting those organs. I still believe the key is to get off of the meds completely and that isn't going to happen until I drop the rest of the weight. I'm going to have to find my old paperwork (never finished unpacking boxes from 2009!) but I remember at least one or two blood work results which had *no* flags at all, when I was ~180 lbs. (81.6 kg) and running for stretches of up to 3 miles at a time. I'm struggling right now to run even a single mile on the treadmill, and that's easier than pavement!

Wife's best numbers (even in her 40's) has been when her BMI dips into the 17's (BMI can be unreliable for an individual on both ends of the scale) but I don't think it's her weight as much as having better diet and exercise habits during the times when she's maintaining it. Of course, we both want to look our nicest on a Friday evening in our new duds (although that's been a while) but it's the annual physicals and blood work which determine how healthy we really are, along with how we feel every day (strength and stamina).

I've had roaming aches and pains (mainly a dull soreness) which travel from my back to my abdomen, sometimes up my chest, shoulders and arms, for a couple of years now. I'm checked during my physicals, my GP pressing up and down my torso, finding nothing unusual. BTW, still no lubricated finger or nadsack check (yahoo! biggrin ), maybe after 50? I had both a prostate and hernia check (separate GPs) in my early 40's (Jax., FL) but only once, so I don't know if it's just a personal preference by the GP as to what gets checked on a physical. Maybe because I had just turned 40 and getting a physical was new to me, but I haven't been checked since.

Anyway, my aches and pains don't so much affect my quality of life, but I'll be glad to get this upcoming colonoscopy over with and put that concern behind me.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/06/17 03:04 PM

Did some research yesterday and I'm feeling better about my blood work. Some numbers that are flagged (High/Low) would have been considered normal by other standards, like the wider ranges listed on WebMD.com.

Discussed with wife over dinner last night...since I see only a GP, he can test for whatever he wants and insurance will pay. She also sees a cardiologist once a year and whatever he tests for (definitely anything related to cholesterol), our GP cannot as insurance won't pay for the same test annually. She use to be double-tested anyway as her work had an annual health fair (free physicals) but they don't do that anymore.

Also, where you live can determine quality of health care. Not that we have issues with health care in Baton Rouge, but Jacksonville did seem more advanced and medically focused. For example, I was being tested for macular degeneration with new state-of-the-art equipment (I've seen awesome color imagery of the inside of my eyeballs) while wife was getting cardiologist tests which require blood samples be shipped to Berkeley, CA on dry ice (although testing was in CA, her FL cardiologist was involved in new technology testing).

Also, I'm learning that you can have a number be a little high or low and it won't concern your GP unless some related number is also abnormal.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/10/17 05:24 AM

I've been thinking over my diet and trying to figure out what's spiking my triglycerides (from 134 to 199). The only thing I can think of is that I've been eating lots of pasta lately, adding it to salads and wraps, also occasionally eating a bowl with pesto and sautéed vegetables for a quick and easy dinner. I buy the Garofalo Organic Pasta Variety Pack from Costco and I go through it probably quicker than I should be. I'm not going to eliminate pasta completely but I am going to stop making a complete meal out of it. That's the only thing I can think of, other than hitting the honey pretty hard (replacing artificial sweetener in my coffee, for starters) with enough carbs to have that kind of effect (if carbs are the problem), although my sugar only went up from 94 to 96 (I was in the high-80's just 5+ years ago).

Previous -> Current
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GLU: 94 -> 96
ALT: 27 -> 22
CHOL: 222 -> 192
TRI: 134 -> 199
HDL: 42 -> 38
LDL: 154 -> 114

My potassium is also slightly above normal but probably because I eat a lot of high potassium foods.

Going with my wife Monday morning on her physical (same GP). Normally we do our physicals, dermatologist and dental cleanings/checkups together, scheduling back-to-back appointments. They don't mind taking us at the same time, or if just one of us has an appointment, letting the other sit in on the consultation as an extra set of eyes and ears. Her cardiologist is really cool as well, letting me watch ultrasounds and scans (except I wait out treadmill stress testing). The Ob-Gyn stuff I just wait in the lobby, listening in on consultation only if there's a problem (like the previous breast lump scare).

Anyway, I've got a couple questions for our GP, starting with why our blood samples are taken the morning of the physical instead of a week or two prior, so that the results are available during consultation. That's how it was done in Jax., you go to a blood lab first and then a physical is scheduled *after* the results are in (good or bad). Here, you get a call that your blood work is in a week or so after the physical, told it either looks “good” or “bad” with the highlights, and that you can pick up a copy if you want. I guess if it's bad they want you to make a follow-up appointment, which wouldn't be necessary if the results were already in the doctor's hands the day of the physical.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/14/17 04:04 PM

Wife had her physical this morning, I didn't go because I'm not feeling 100% (head cold all weekend). Dr. said there was something going around and that she has a touch of it herself, so I guess we'll be taking cold meds for the next couple of days. She'll be getting full blood work numbers back this time (same as mine), makes for a little competition.

Her physical went fine as well (they let her weigh-in with jeans and boots - I'm the opposite, getting her to hold my wallet, watch, glasses, keys, etc. smile ), but she forgot to ask why blood is drawn the day of and not before our physicals, we'd like for them to change that. She asked about my numbers and he told her that my potassium is likely a little high due to my BP meds (Losartan Potassium, although it's been halved to 50mg) but it's not a concern, nor is my spiked triglycerides per past results as they fluctuate. However (and this is what I needed to hear), if I really wanted to improve my lipid (cholesterol) numbers, I'll have to finish loosing the weight and bump up my exercising (still slacking with cardio).

Our GP, Dr. Elkins, tells it like it is and we like that. He's fit himself (mid-to-late-40's, lean and wiry) and talks with us very candidly about our health and fitness. Because he has a similar ectomorphic body type, I think my wife is comfortable with him and can relate. Not that she minds when another physician asks about her weight/size (as did her breast surgeon recently), because they should be concerned as we put our health in their care. He then asked if she was still seeing her same GP, cardiologist and GYN. "At least once a year." That satisfied him.

My parents will be seeing our GP soon for the first time and I think he's going to like their attitude as well, especially my father (hates going to doctors but he does take good care of himself).

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Getting back on [the] track, 5k's coming up...

BR Zoo: Aug. 26
St. Jude (downtown BR): Sep. 16
Alzheimer's (LSU): Oct. 21
Louisiana 5k (downtown BR): Jan. 13

We're determined, sealed with a handshake, that we're going to train and both finish the Jan. 13th race under 30 min., which for us would be incredible! We'll be numbered and chipped and will have both turned 50 (determines category). Maybe...just maybe, we can finish with a respectable enough time to be ranked (in our age group) somewhere on their website.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/17/17 05:55 PM

My parents had their first physical (checkup or whatever) with our GP today (making local appointments whenever possible since they've moved) and they really like him. Father likes that he's not a pill pusher type.

Wife got her blood work in yesterday, posting the numbers with permission...

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Hers is printed on two papers, same "Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)" and "Lipid Panel" as mine, but with an additional "CBC With Differential/Platelet". Don't know what that is yet or why they test for it, no real issues except heart murmur and concerning family history (father), maybe it's connected with more thorough cardiology? More to learn (been doing blood work research to know what all of this means).

She has only two flags, total cholesterol (243) and LDL (bad cholesterol) (146), but we know from talking with her cardiologist that they are more concerned with having a high enough HDL (69 [should be over 39]) and she has that, so no worries. High cholesterol runs in her family so it's no surprise it's kinda high, but good enough for another year off Lipitor. smile

Except that she probably needs to cut back on desserts (serious sweet tooth, while mine is a deep fried tooth) and pick up the cardio workouts. We exercise together always except for her yoga and my extra treadmill/outdoors when she's at yoga, and we both know we've been slacking lately. The upcoming 5k's give us goals to strive for.

Posting these numbers because a year from now I'm going to hopefully post better ones (at 50), trying for a flagless report.

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Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/17/17 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
Posting these numbers because a year from now I'm going to hopefully post better ones (at 50), trying for a flagless report.


Keep at it but be aware that once you turn 50, time goes by at an accelerated rate. It took far less time, subjectively, for me to go from 50 to 58 than it did for me to go from 40 to 48. smile
Posted By: NH2112

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/17/17 08:06 PM

I've lost 30lb in the past few months by 1) quitting soda (I've had like 3 in 5 months), 2) eliminating most grains from my diet, rarely eating fast food, cutting my meat portion in half, and doubling the amount of vegetables on my plate, and 3) hiking hills 3-4 times a week. I don't bother with anything less than 1500' of elevation gain on my weekday "training" hikes, and my weekend "adventure" hikes are higher & longer. 3 weeks ago I couldn't do 500' of elevation gain without stopping to rest, last night I did 1525' without stopping AND with a pack that weighed twice normal to make it more difficult. I kept my pace to a speed that I was just barely able to control my breathing. My bum knee no longer hurts or swells up, because I think the exercise is strengthening the ligaments & muscles, and I feel GOOD now. I could probably get better results at the gym, but I don't like the gym and I love hiking.

Last night's hike, I don't know where the 11 lost minutes went but I can account for 2 or 3 because I kept my phone in my pack so it took time to put the pack on at the trailhead after starting the recording and take it off to stop it at the summit.

ETA I think the remainder of the lost 11 minutes comes from times when I was moving below the threshold speed.




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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/18/17 02:29 PM

^ That tech stuff looks cool. My terrain here, not quite as interesting as yours, at or below sea level and always flat as Emma Watson (I kid, I kid...a lovely 'Belle'). biggrin

Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Originally Posted by MarkG
Posting these numbers because a year from now I'm going to hopefully post better ones (at 50), trying for a flagless report.


Keep at it but be aware that once you turn 50, time goes by at an accelerated rate. It took far less time, subjectively, for me to go from 50 to 58 than it did for me to go from 40 to 48. smile


I'm likely going to look back at my 40's as a decade of transition and change of priorities. I feel much better at 49 than I did at 39 (major lifestyle changes) so I hope for the best when turning 59. It's easy to think positively at the moment because my wife and I clawed our way out of some serious ruts we were in, and now we want the same things out of middle-age life and beyond. I read online how people in their 50's are often more content than any previous decade of life, yet 'gray divorce' rates are climbing? I don't know what to make of that. I'm not going to worry about it though, just going to keep building the pecs and biceps while trimming the waist and maintaining the courting. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/24/17 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by wheelsup_cavu
I was 42 and I didn't have a single cavity until I whitened my teeth. I had two cavities within two years of the whitening. May have been a coincidence but I will never believe it.


Wheels


Off to the dentist right now (regular cleaning, checkup...this time with x-rays). We made our decision (dentist giving us until yesterday to decide, to schedule for extra work required if we wanted to get started with it today), will post one final big-ass tooth post when I get back.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/25/17 12:27 AM

<Follow-up to previous post this afternoon.>

Not doing the teeth whitening, would rather have yellowish teeth and enjoy more concerts. biggrin Seriously, too many side effects IMO (like what Wheels posted above), the procedure is expensive and hurts, and increases tooth sensitivity (some cases are really bad). Plus, you have to keep getting follow-up treatments and I know I'd feel bad about having a couple of cups of coffee every morning, an occasional glass of red wine over dinner and frequent glasses of hot tea in our Russian tea cups/holders.

I'm done. I enjoy the workouts and the walking/running, they're a real turn on, and I especially enjoy the tunes we listen to. But I'm not doing something like this that has no health benefit. Wife agrees (although it was originally her idea). We're 50 now and were never model-types even when we were younger, so what's the point? Other than it's the in-thing to have really white teeth these days? It's never been *my* thing and as long as our teeth are healthy and straight (both of us have permanent upper and lower retainers, plus night guards/nightly retainers), I could care less if they're some shade of yellow. biggrin
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/25/17 03:38 PM

Had my 6 mo. appointment today. Got my prelim numbers and was really pleased!
Blood pressure down 10 pts, top and bottom to 130/83. It's always a little higher at the doctors office. At home I'm pretty consistent at around 125/82 +/- a couple points.
Last Feb I was about 135/92 +/-
Last Nov I was just a bit higher.

Total Cholesterol went from 218 to 193 (within the "good" range now of <=199)
HDL was always fine, but it's at 49. Right in the middle of the good range.
LDL went from 138 to 125
Triglycerides...from 138 down to 96! In the good range of <=100 now!

Very pleased. My 4 week weigh in is tomorrow. I was hoping to hit 9 lbs for the 4 weeks, but even if I don't hit that I'm feeling really good about these results.
Still on the BP meds, but I wouldn't expect to get off of that until I get it lower and show that it's staying there.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/25/17 06:56 PM

Outstanding numbers, RK! Your triglycerides are rockin'!

My blood pressure was a little high yesterday at the dentist (135/93), but sitting in 'the chair' often does that, and my BP med dosage was halved recently.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/26/17 07:58 AM

Mine goes up at the doc too. We have a checker at home, so I keep up with it. For a couple weeks before a check up I start writing it down to give them a better picture of whats going on.
Not sure how much weight I've lost this period yet, but at least I know my efforts are paying off in other areas for sure. I think the ab exercises have toned me a bit even if I haven't lost a lot since clothes are fitting noticeably looser. Been a positiive day. Got a little down this week, as I kept running across those videos where people claim major changes over 90 days. I know its BS, or at least toning up muscle bulk, but it still had me questioning my effectiveness.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/26/17 12:38 PM

Good idea, RK. I also have a home unit, I check it 2 to 3 times a week and enter into a spreadsheet, although I often forget until a couple weeks before seeing my GP.

About the 90-day changes, I do the same with watching videos, although I never work at it with so much intensity (I'll start in a 'boot camp mode' but it never last, then it's back to my regular routine). Wife has a couple of favorites, especially this one of a regular person (50-year-old working mother with type 1 diabetes) just making some positive changes in 12 weeks...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWWsTW3wVeQ


We're about to head off to a 5k at the zoo, and other than looking forward to listening to a bunch of Kansas I bought yesterday for a concert tonight, I'm not in a running mood this morning. At least it shouldn't be so hot with the overcast today.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/26/17 07:48 PM

After carb loading with the Quaker Oats this morning (including cinnamon, raisins, walnuts and honey), we wanted something for lunch that would help cool us off. Trying something new to the same ol' Greek yogurt and cottage cheese by adding mango, topped with granola (with cashew and coconut). It was good...

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/26/17 09:30 PM

I can do oatmeal, and fruit, seperately, but I can't get myself to try yogurt again. The greek kind, whatever the difference is, is supposed to be good from what I hear. I don't think I could stomach cottage cheese unless it's in a recipe. I switched to almond milk and other than "regular" cheeses, that's about all the dairy I get.
I did find that grapefruit and strawberries for breakfast is pretty good. I fast until after my workout every other day. Might have a slim fast or something, but nothing solid.
I watch Remington James on youtube about every day. Funny guy, VERY positive and a lot of food ideas to have some variety. That's the bulk of his videos, but he also does some workout videos with his friends that have a lot of good advice, even for beginners like me. Very motivational. I'm certainly not body building, but he's got a lot of good info for just about anyone trying to be healthy.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO9Rhj_x_GgJl-Ria7257EA
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/28/17 08:14 PM

I'm really enjoying Remington James' videos, thanks RK.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/28/17 09:10 PM

Cool! He seems like a good guy. Lots of good info and he's very prolific.
Kind of disappointed after my weigh in, just saw 5 lbs. As different as my clothes fit, and the way I've felt, I was expecting a lot more than that.
Decided I'm going to try to step things up and add some cardio-only days to the mix during the week...if I can recover enough to handle it without ruining my regular days. We'll see how it goes this week.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/28/17 09:58 PM

IMO, a weekly weigh-in is a good reference of progress (bi-monthly even better), especially if you have a ways to go. I haven't messed with any body fat measuring tools yet, and I keep forgetting to ask my GP about it (he may do it and I'm sure it would be more accurate). But clothes are the way go, IMO, especially a pair of non-stretchable jeans and t-shirt of appropriate size, tells you all that you need to know. The clothes I wore to the Kansas concert Sat. evening, I've never been able to wear before (purchased last Dec. in Atlanta), so I know I'm going in the right direction.

I was looking over my calendar at lunch, music dates are about to become sparse (nothing between Sept. 8 - Dec. 30, unless something new pops up). So I'm repeating 2015 with tickets for LSU's homecoming Sept. 30th against the Troy Trojans (whoever that is). The cheapest nosebleed seats, guaranteed to burn calf muscles just walking the steps to the top of that stinking stadium, not to mention all the walking to-and-from the stadium and around campus before the game. I don't give two flips about college football, but I remember my legs feeling like Jell-O after the last time we went. smile
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/29/17 03:21 PM

I'm doing 4 weeks. I don't know how to actually measure body fat, so I'm just using the scale and my pants fit. LOL
The calf machine is a torture device, but progress is pretty fast! Also a good tool to know if your low on potassium. If you're going to cramp up, that will be the one to show you!
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/29/17 07:08 PM

For Body Fat, get a caliper. Really easy once you learn how to use it.

http://www.weightrainer.net/skinfoldbf.html

Might not be totally accurate (I guess you could be 2% off, it gets more accurate with more measuring points) but it works very well in charting progress for yourself.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/26/17 01:44 AM

I did get the caliper, so I'll have it for later comparison.
Had a good 4 weeks. Lost 8 lbs, short 2 of my goal, but I can tell it's offset by some amount of muscle gain, so it's OK. I feel like I lost a few more than 10 in fat. Wearing clothes I haven't in years and probably 4" off my waist.

I bumped my workouts up to 6 days a week. 45 min on the stationary bike every day, and 45-60 on weight machines every other day. Sundays off to recuperate. Diet is coming along very well. Actually having to try to eat enough to hit calories for the day. This 4 weeks I'm working on even less sugar and cutting carbs while upping the protein more.
To hit my goal for my birthday, I have to average 10 lbs every 4 weeks. I don't want to ease up on muscle gain, so I have to figure out the right balance quickly.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/26/17 08:57 AM

Slowly building back my routine myself. Summer break really kicked me out of the habit.

Found a small gym in walking distance, not part of any big chain, reasonable prices. I might look into moving my regime out of my apartment... they sure got more options than I have.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/27/17 06:39 PM

Only thing I have to report is that after spending Saturday walking the LSU campus before the football game (probably close to 6 miles [9.6 km]), I wasn't limping on Sunday. Yahoo! biggrin

Also, benching 140 lbs. (63.5 kg), 3 sets of 10. All of my weight training exercises have increased by 10 to 20 lbs. (in 2.5 to 5 lbs. increments) so progress is being made, however slowly. As a 50 year-old non-gym rat, I can live with that. I'm totally maxing out my bench capacity now (also with the leg exercises) so I'm going to have to do something about it soon before I get hurt. smile

RK, you're on fire! thumbsup

RSC, I wish I had a gym close by vs. squeezing a larger heavier-duty bench in a limited space. Might have to do some rearranging that I didn't want to have to deal with to make room.

We did a BF estimate (without a caliper) and...eh...I'm not posting that just yet. smile Thanks for the info, though. Going to get a caliper soon.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/28/17 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
We did a BF estimate (without a caliper) and...eh...I'm not posting that just yet. smile Thanks for the info, though. Going to get a caliper soon.


LOL biggrin You're among friends, don't worry... wink

I really feel like my Pectorals are out of size with the rest of my body. I got decent arms, abs, strong neck, but the pushups I'm doing are not triggering the breast to grow proportionally.

That's why a gym might be an option, I just hate binding contracts for multiple months. Need to see if I agree with their "points" system and if it's cost efficient. Or I need to find a better pushup style.

Bench press would be grand but I really don't have the space for that. Working with two separate dumbbells I lost one a while ago trying to pick it up and dinged the hardwood floor heavily. Never went beyond 20kg per hand so 63 is pretty solid!

Also spent 50mins on the crosstrainer yesterday, haven't done that in a year. My left knee is giving me a bit of trouble today, maybe I should start slower to build some stabilizing muscle.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/28/17 04:07 PM

I found lots of caliper and measuring tape sets on amazon for very little. It's got plenty of instructions, but I'm still not completely sure I did it right. It doesn't matter much as long as I do it the same every time to see progress.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074FFPRQ4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

I don't think any gyms around here require contracts anymore. Pretty much everything is just month to month and agree to their rules.
RS you probably just need more variety of exercises to hit all of the chest muscles.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/28/17 04:35 PM

Down to 222. 40 from goal.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/28/17 04:42 PM

Awesome! Getting closer and closer.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/29/17 10:48 PM

So...how does it feel getting your waist back, gentlemen? The way it makes your abs and upper body feel tighter and stronger, more masculine. Awesome, isn't it? biggrin

++++++++++

We've plotted a ~10 mile (16 km) trek around LSU campus using Google Earth, to cover before the game tomorrow evening. Just getting to our seats in the top section of the stadium will require lots of ramps and steps, should be quite a workout.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/30/17 08:51 PM

It's NICE. Last month I noticed I could comfortably wear my multitool on the front side of my belt again instead of the back. LOL
I can put on shirts and not have to do the push out and spread with my hands from the inside.
My belt wraps around to my side. I'm going to have to trim it down in a week or two.

Still a long way to go, but visual progress should speed up as the tree trunk narrows. wink
Dropping a couple of pounds makes more difference when your circumference is smaller. LOL
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/02/17 01:21 AM

Gotta tell y'all a story, and I swear I'm not exaggerating even in the slightest...

Wife and I had a great time at the LSU game yesterday, didn't quite get in our 10 miles as we ran into family and lost a little time. She picked up the pace heading back to the stadium, I cranked up my Shuffle earbuds and stayed with her, huffing and puffing (my ego will no longer let me say, "Hold up a minute!"). We find our gate and go through check-in (ours was express as we had no bag/purse) and there's a HUGE group of people just standing around. We stood with them for a moment until she figured out they were waiting for elevators. Then she sees the ramp just a little ways over and we take off.

This was our first time in the newer nosebleed section, you can either take an elevator to the top or walk the ramps/steps. The ramps take you to the top of the original stadium, then steps (like in a typical building, but wider) take you to the top concourse.

In this *tremendous* crowd of people (see pics on "College Football!!!" thread), we saw only two other people walking the ramps, which were all but deserted (see pics below)...

Once we reached the steps (an additional 4 stories, I think) we did see a few more people, but no more than 10. Some were sitting down at the base of the landing taking a break, while others were slowly making their way up. I was secretly proud of all of them as you could tell they were struggling but putting forth the effort.

We step out onto the concourse and walk to our section, noticing the two banks of elevators let people off right at the concession areas (hotdogs, nachos, popcorn, sodas and beer). smile

I dunno, but I bet in the 1970's/80's those ramps would have been filled with people not wanting to wait for an elevator.

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/02/17 03:45 AM

They may have still been there at halftime! I'd say you got in your cardio.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/11/17 06:40 AM

Any of you guys using tracking apps for watching your intake macros and exercise?
I've been using Lose It! which has a free version, but I upgraded after a couple of months when I figured I was sticking with it.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/11/17 08:22 AM

For Calorie Counting it's all in my head.

For Exercises I got a simple Excel table to make sure I rotate them appropriately.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/11/17 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Any of you guys using tracking apps for watching your intake macros and exercise?
I've been using Lose It! which has a free version, but I upgraded after a couple of months when I figured I was sticking with it.


I'm using Samsung's S Health on my Samsung S7.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/12/17 10:50 PM

We don't have any gadgets, like RSColonel_131st we keep a spreadsheet on a clipboard hanging in the office gym to keep up with our weights/routines. I'm not disciplined enough to count calories, I just do the best I can and keep Sunday open for any splurging and treats (always starting Sun. morning with blueberry or pecan pancakes, sausage, maple syrup and a glass of milk).

++++++++++

I'm doing so well with my feet not hurting after lots of walking (with some running) that we're pushing up our NYC trip from October of next year to April. I'll take plenty of pics on the Intrepid and other points of interest, but also of us hiking the 1,576 steps (86 floors) of the Empire State Building.

++++++++++

I'm taking another small online break, going to push out of this stagnant rut I'm in and prove (to myself and to my wife) that I can actually finish something I've started. And not just physical but also some mental efforts (education and accomplishments). I can't wait to take our final abs pics (the closest we'll come to a 'finish line') and I have some catching up to do since I don't do yoga or very much core work (adding to regular routine tomorrow).

The first of the year (time of year this thread was started) will soon be upon us, so let's get the lead out, fellas! attack

For me, the key to pushing past the final hurdles to ultimate sweet victory is found in a number...

2112

I'll get back to this later... wacky
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/13/17 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by MarkG
The first of the year (time of year this thread was started) will soon be upon us, so let's get the lead out, fellas! attack


Holy Molly. Almost two years on this thread.

You're right, that is a wakeup call for some additional effort. Especially before the holiday season.

From monday on I'll shedule four trainings per week, for at least four weeks.

Not going to flip out on the diet, one or two more cardio evenings should account for some weightloss instead.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/13/17 03:19 PM

The app I use makes tracking pretty easy. You can scan in UPC codes for anything that has one, or piece together what you eat into recipes that make it fast to list next time. It's surprising what tracking calories, broken up into carb/protein/fat shows you. Then you add in your exercise. Found out I rarely hit my calorie goal, coming in too far under it. Mainly needing more protein, I'm not worried about the rest. You can also use it across multiple devices, so it's on my tablet as well as my phone, all filled in.
All I log exercise-wise is the type. Stationary bike, weights. The calories burned will be close enough, it does take your weight, age etc into account.
Having to enter everything you eat, including condiments etc helps you identify the hidden calories you might not always think to add in. Being honest with it highlights days I've slipped. The more you use it the faster it gets to use as your "previous meals" fills in to select from. It does list things by brand, most everything I've bought at the grocery store is listed exactly. You might be surprised what you find out if you use it for a few days.

For the holidays, I've said that we're only getting crappy candy for Halloween. Tootsie Rolls and Jolly Ranchers only.Stuff I won't eat. I'm pretty disciplined, but lets not get crazy with pushing that. My goal for the season is just to stick to my birthday plan for Feb 10. Going to be really hard to hit as it is, the holidays aren't going to help any.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/14/17 08:16 PM

Oops, not a good time to take an online break, forgot that tomorrow I'll be prepping for my first rotor-rooter job on Monday morning. What else can I do but play on the laptop?
Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/14/17 08:55 PM

All this talk about losing weight and I’m headed the opposite way.

Well done for all of you who are tackling it and making progress.

I start a diet Monday motivated by all of you who are doing something positive about your weight and health.



I hate dieting. I hate eating sensibly. Never had to before. Guess age and inactivity are getting a hold of me.
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/14/17 09:19 PM

After a major illness, I have been trying to limit my sugar intake. I never knew how difficult it could be. Even after having the living sheet scared out of me, I still have trouble fighting my sweet tooth and my Diet Coke addiction. I tip my hat to the will power and self discipline that you guys have shown.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/14/17 10:50 PM

Do what you've gotta do!

Bad news: my favorite bike at the gym broke. I think I wore it out. LOL
Have to use an older one or take this as a sign to switch to another form of cardio. I've really enjoyed that bike, it's one of 2 that have the pedal straps. I use it 6 days a week so I'm not happy!
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/14/17 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by LB4LB
After a major illness, I have been trying to limit my sugar intake. I never knew how difficult it could be. Even after having the living sheet scared out of me, I still have trouble fighting my sweet tooth and my Diet Coke addiction. I tip my hat to the will power and self discipline that you guys have shown.


Try Sparkling Ice flavored, carbonated water. Kind of a narrow bottle. Tastes really good, no sugar or anything, just some added vitamins. I've cut back to practically no soft drinks now, that seems to satisfy me for it.
Orange/mango and cherry limeade are really good, like a flavored soft drink.
The Walmart generic copy is horrible though.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/15/17 02:56 AM

oldgrognard, the one pic I remember seeing of you (in a car thread, IIRC), I never thought you'd be a participant on this thread. smile

++++++++++

I have plenty of fat pics on this thread, although I was never super obese (up to ~270 lbs. [122.5 kg]), all dated prior to 2009. Until I started *really* falling apart at 40, the idea of eating right and exercising wasn't in my thoughts at all. Wife either, an extra ~35 lbs. (15.9 kg) may not seem like much (and was still just inside her 'Normal' BMI), but on a very ectomorphic frame, it's bad news.

We decided then, at our absolute worst, that weight and size were no longer going to be taboo subjects in our home. We express truthfully how we feel about ourselves and each other, hurt feelings be damned (although I don't recall it ever being a problem). I finally got a dose of some much needed tough love, along with fear for my health, and I became highly motivated. I just wish it would have happened sooner and I hope my previous lifestyle doesn't come back to bite me in the ass.

Yeah, I'm ready to get Monday morning over with, already getting a case of the nerves (over results, not procedure), partly because of the stuff I read here.
Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/15/17 01:01 PM

MarkG, that is some great progress. Well done.
Posted By: Lieste

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/16/17 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Do what you've gotta do!

Bad news: my favorite bike at the gym broke. I think I wore it out. LOL
Have to use an older one or take this as a sign to switch to another form of cardio. I've really enjoyed that bike, it's one of 2 that have the pedal straps. I use it 6 days a week so I'm not happy!


A real bike, not at the gym?
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/16/17 01:48 PM

Recumbent stationary bike.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/17/17 11:13 PM

Thanks, OG.

Man, these temps (since Monday morning)! About to pull out the nerf football, throw some passes with wife and father in the front yard. 5k on Saturday (Alzheimer's at LSU). I love the Fall.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/20/17 03:30 AM

Wife is about to begin another company health program. With the last one she always wore a pedometer, occasionally plugging it in to her office PC to record her steps and got Amazon dollars. Now they're shipping her a Fitbit Zip (I need to look it up to see what it is) and she thinks that this time I can enroll as well. Cool. I'm not much into gadgets, but if it's free and potentially money making, I'll try it.

++++++++++

Something we've given some thought to lately, not mentioned yet on this thread (I don't think), the importance of getting enough sleep. I'd say we average 6 hours a night but it's not consistent. Going to try increasing it to a steady 8 as we're entering our 50's.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/21/17 10:19 PM

4 week weigh in, 8 more lbs down.
Still falling short of my 2.5lb/wk average I want for my goal, but I'm still pretty stoked.
That's 41 lbs total. That 1 pound means I'm over halfway to my birthday goal...by one pound, but still. LOL
I thought I'd see just what I've lost in a more understandable form:

[Linked Image]
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 10/22/17 01:52 PM

That's a really good way of visualizing it, RK. thumbsup
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/04/17 06:39 PM

I'm becoming interested in the benefits of a ~50 year-old man taking up yoga.

Came upon this video, one of the most inspirational stories I've ever seen, from a 47 year-old disabled paratrooper...

Man Barely Able to Stand on his Own Does the Unthinkable - Amazing...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU0BzZlwU4o


EDIT: Found a longer version of above video...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIXOo8D9Qsc
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/06/17 04:27 PM

Found something interesting as I was looking at pics of vintage barbells and dumbbells (about to start my old-school weights restoration project).

Mrs. Marilyn Monroe pumping iron and doing yoga? (I bet that old-school empty barbell weighs in at close to 50 lbs.)...

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Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/06/17 06:02 PM

Nice find Mark. .


Wheels
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/10/17 01:38 PM

For the first time in the almost 10 years of working on a lifestyle change, I'm falling for a possible gimmick. This evening I'm going to purchase the DDP Yoga "Max Pack" for $72.00 (programs range from $40.00 to $72.00).

I've done all the research I can, read a buttload of reviews and watched YT videos (and read comments) then turned it over to my wife for her opinion. I think she mainly just wants me to get started, but she likes what she sees. She also suggested that for the time being, she can substitute one of her two weekly yoga classes with this program and do it with me, if just to help me get started and without changing the budget.

So, at some point I'll post what I think about this "yoga for bro's" workout.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/10/17 03:19 PM

Different is good! Might as well try things out that you may find interesting.
I"ve had a hard time working out lately. After donating blood last week, I just had no energy for my cardio. I think the 6 day weeks have taken a little toll on me. My legs feel shot, my elbow still hurts. Decided to take it easy this week, no weights and just the cardio a few times. I'll get back to hitting it hard in another week or so, but I don't think I was giving myself enough time to recuperate each week. I concentrated more on my diet, so I don't think I've given up too much. In the long run I think this is a good break to take. I'm still learning how to do the most I can, safely.

In other news, I finally had to give up and go ahead and buy some new jeans. 6" smaller in the waist! Pretty excited about that!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/14/17 05:09 PM

Congrats on the waist, RK. Really, that's more telling than anything else IMO, when you drop pants sizes.

I'm in a slump right now, even backsliding a bit, just not feeling it at the moment. Out-of-town family visiting, more coming next week, makes it difficult to keep up the routine with clean eating.

I did get a yoga mat and I'm just waiting for my DDP Yoga package to arrive. I hope his brash wrestling persona helps pump me up about yoga, and that my wife can tolerate it...

"DDP Yoga, we have more T & A!" - Diamond Dallas Page



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB5ys1zsz-o
Posted By: mailman

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/16/17 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by MarkG
Found something interesting as I was looking at pics of vintage barbells and dumbbells (about to start my old-school weights restoration project).

Mrs. Marilyn Monroe pumping iron and doing yoga? (I bet that old-school empty barbell weighs in at close to 50 lbs.)...


Apparently not the only thing she was bench pressing wink biggrin
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/16/17 06:25 PM

Stuck at 215 for the past couple weeks. Gatta change things up...
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/17/17 03:11 AM

Wife began an 11 day vacation today, we started the day with getting our annual 40 lbs. box of sweet potatoes from LSU Agriculture, then went for a good long walk (what a gorgeous day it was).

Our DDPY stuff should arrive tomorrow. Besides getting started with my first pseudo-yoga regime (the main reason I bought it), we're going to spend some time looking over the eating plans. Apparently there's 3 of them (more like guidelines, I think) with the strictest being no GMO and dairy, also gluten-free. I don't want to go that extreme with healthy eating, but maybe I could follow it temporarily if just to get over a longtime plateau. I'm going to look it over before going to Costco and Whole Foods tomorrow.

It's like when my wife started doing yoga a few years back, I asked her to please not get weird on me, like become one of those tree-hugging vegetarians. This DDPY stuff doesn't have any of that creepy chanting, incense burning meditation stuff. I asked her what she thinks about when they're suppose to be meditating and she told me, "I think about Friday date night." biggrin

Can't wait to do my first handstand, split and downward facing doggie style..."BANG!" - DDP. As soon as I can do something really impressive, I'll post a pic.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/22/17 03:19 PM

I've got a whole new respect for yoga-like exercising. I knew yoga was mostly about stretching and flexibility, but just keeping your balance is a lot more difficult than I thought (unlike my wife, I'm having to use a chair for some of it). But it's more than just that, holding some poses for any amount of time really starts to burn and sometimes make you shake. Remember Phys. Ed. Calisthenics when you laid on your back and had to hold your heels 6" off the ground for a count? It's something like that.

I lift weights (casually) and run (very casually) and always try to remember to stretch first, yet I'm really not that flexible and my core(?) is weak as hell (I'm learning that now). Also, when you go through these exercises, your body is constantly popping and cracking. smile DDPY, I believe, is filling in a missing piece to our workouts, and something we can do anywhere without a single piece of equipment. Where I lead on the weights (after watching endless YT videos and websites about proper form), my wife leads with this yoga stuff (I'm not the one who can bring my head to my knees while standing smile ) so it gives us both a responsibility to take the lead on something, which is cool.

I tried starting with the Beginner's routine (Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, Psycho), then had to back up to "Beginner Beginner"), a pre-beginners. smile Wow! It's going to be at least a couple of weeks or so I think, before I can do pre-beginners comfortably and consistently.

One more thing...wife doesn't mind that she's always the oldest person in her yoga classes, and appreciates that DDP (who is almost 60) makes it very clear throughout his program that DDP Yoga is really for older people, even those who haven't exercised in decades. Just browsing the discs, at least in the Pre- and Beginner's routines, he shows modified versions of each exercise to make it easier, either doing it himself or having someone next to him show the modified version.

So far, we're really digging it.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/22/17 04:18 PM

I found a simple planking video that times you and shows you what to do that I like. Thats as close as I come to yoga. Its hard! Holding body weight sounds so easy but it friggin burns. LOL
I slacked some this last 4 weeks and only lost 5lbs. Eh, its still progress. The blood donation thing screwed me up for that week. I had to ease up some due to getting ahead of being able to recuperate from workouts too, so missed a couple more days in there I didn’t want to lose. There comes a point you just have to deal with inflammation so it doesn’t get worse.
Still, that makes 46 lbs gone! At 50 I get a pizza. thumbsup
The Y is closed Thurs and Fri and obviously T’giving may be difficult, so I’m a little nervous about this week. Trying to plan ahead and go light the rest of the week so I’m not “that guy” Thurs and I can just relax. I don’t want to give up my Sat. cheeseburger if I don’t have to!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/22/17 07:48 PM

Closing in on 50 lbs., man that's sweet! thumbsup Sometimes after a 5k we hit the Mellow Mushroom off campus, we figure we earned that pizza. smile

I hear ya about the holidays, though. I have more family coming in from Atlanta this afternoon (currently driving through Mississippi) and these guys love to eat out and sample the most unhealthiest of Cajun cuisine. The next 4 days are going to be really tough for me with food and drink. I reminded my wife to keep an eye on me, to let me know if she thinks I'm losing control. Not embarrass me or anything (and she never has) but to give me that special look or maybe run her foot up my leg under the table to keep me thinking clearly. wink Seriously, I start smelling those bad kinds of food and I just want to go nuts, same with drinking (either sodas or booze [or both], 2 or 3 are never enough) and I need a reminder sometimes not to #%&*$# it all up (I fall easy and hard). She's got my back and knows what to do (e.g. suggest ordering a *small* plate of the bad stuff and split it), and I'm smart enough these days to agree with her...usually. smile

Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/23/17 05:18 AM

Mmmmm I’m thinking Mellow Mushroom calzone now...and a Blue Moon.
Better than Thanksgiving!
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/23/17 03:23 PM

Nice to see the thread going strong.

I'm back over 80kg right now... yuck... seems I caught a bout of Winter depression (constantly tired, no energy, always hungry for carbs), working now with some daylight lamp to try and regenerate my energy.

So the plan is to eat healthier, do my light therapy and make an effort to work out regularly again. That too should have a positive effect.

Or I guess I could just move to Malta... :P
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/23/17 05:43 PM

80kg (176.7 lbs.)?! eek2 RS, you fatso. biggrin

J/k, I know it's relative to what you're use to and expect from yourself, but I'd kill to be your weight right now. smile

Holidays (visiting family earlier this year, the way everyone's schedules worked out)...looks like I was worried over nothing. This isn't going to be like last year in Atlanta (my struggles documented on this thread, early Dec. 2016, constant spreads and buffets). Everyone else is now also on a health kick, and I'm not the only husband on a leash it seems. smile Man, being surrounded by like-minded people makes all the difference in the world, it really does. The women are in the kitchen putting thought into their cooking (not just healthy, also from scratch as much as possible) and after we eat, we're going to drive out to LSU and walk the campus (should be very quiet today), then tomorrow the Zoo.

I'm smelling sweet potato pie, but I know the slices won't be nearly restaurant size. readytoeat
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/23/17 06:05 PM

Yeah, I'm fat like a baby seal :P

I know that most here fight a much harder battle - but then many here are married and past their 40s;)

75 would give me a really ripped body, 78 is very acceptable. 80 is just a barrier I didn't intend to ever cross again...

Mostly I guess I should learn to enjoy activity more. Sitting all day and all evening isn't exactly helping to raise my permissible kcal intake.

Thankfully we don't have Thanksgiving to weather wink
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/24/17 12:07 AM

I can tell you the effect of endorphins is very real. Get to exercising daily. I always thought that was largely BS, or not as much of a benefit as claimed, but now I can tell a difference. I have a day off to recuperate on Sundays and on Monday I actually feel a little down and find it harder to get moving back to workout. Afterward, I feel better and I stay feeling like that until the next time, the day after taking off.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/24/17 11:30 AM

Hmm, worth a try. Thanks for the idea!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/24/17 02:50 PM

I don't know if it's endorphins, but sometimes I start off not feeling like running at all, only brisk walking. But after I've walked a few laps and I'm warmed up, with the right music pumping me up, I can't help but to take off in a sprint.

Workouts (weights and track) can wane if you let it, so we're making pseudo-yoga our first truly consistent exercising as it's something we can do anywhere, even in a hotel room. We figure that if we can keep a commitment of consistency with this one thing for the rest of our lives, we'll be doing good, even when our regular routine of weights and walking/running gets sidetracked.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/24/17 05:43 PM

I also listen to audiobooks while I'm there. If it's a good book (I don't waste much time if it turns out dull), that helps get me going because I want to see what happens next. LOL I save it for just at the Y.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/25/17 09:25 PM

Company left this morning (off to see other family), I'd give my efforts somewhere between a C+ and a B-.

As soon as they leave, my wife looks at me with a "Whew - ready to get back on the straight and narrow?" "Oh yeah!" We divvied up the leftovers with my parents, enough to enjoy for today while vegging out to some DVDs, maybe the LSU game (she watches for our nephew in the band). Tomorrow we're getting back to killing it (weights/track/DDPY). Kinda cool, one of my younger family members was a wrestling fan in the 90's and knew exactly who and what I was talking about with DDP Yoga and the "Diamond Cutter". smile

132 days (~19 weeks) for NYC and then a summer vacation in Gulf Shores (also Pensacola Aviation Museum), to our very first beach bodies...at 50!
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/25/17 10:04 PM

Go see the battleship Alabama in Mobile along the way. There’s a very good aviation museum there. They even have an SR71. Also a sub, but I forget which one.

I managed to stick to my calories somehow. LOL
Back to the Y tomorrow, I’m ready.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/26/17 02:57 PM

Most definitely going to the Alabama along the way.

Can't wait to see how it compares with a tour of the Kidd (destroyer) we did last year...
Spending a day in downtown Baton Rouge, LA (many pics)

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Going to order a couple of heart rate monitors today, the kind that straps around your torso and gives a readout on your wrist.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/28/17 09:33 AM

Anyone got a recommendation for good Youtube series I might download and watch while training? I need some motivation.

Maybe not about war directly, but can be historical, science, unusual stuff... something that's good and entertaining to watch while doing my home routine.

Thankfully Grand Tour comes back soon...
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/28/17 01:17 PM

"Make love, not war." biggrin

I can't help with this as I'm a musical guy, my tunes drive me.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/28/17 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Go see the battleship Alabama in Mobile along the way. There’s a very good aviation museum there. They even have an SR71. Also a sub, but I forget which one.


That would be the USS Drum. wink

MarkG, you won't be disappointed with PCOLA and the Naval Aviation Museum. Every time I go visit my Mom in Foley, I have to visit. Oh, I'm below 215 now! W00T!
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/28/17 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
Anyone got a recommendation for good Youtube series I might download and watch while training? I need some motivation.

Maybe not about war directly, but can be historical, science, unusual stuff... something that's good and entertaining to watch while doing my home routine.

Thankfully Grand Tour comes back soon...


Do you like The Right Stuff?
This was a really good miniseries in the 90’s, narrated by Barry Corbin, who is perfect for it.



For info and motivation I have a few regular channels:
Buff Dudes (hilarious, they don’t take themselves too seriously)
Remington James (very positive, some good food ideas)
Thomas Delauer
Sixpackabs
Athlean-X
Motivational Doc
D Eric Berg

For laughs...

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/29/17 03:28 AM

^ LOL (again) on that "GYM WILDLIFE" video. biggrin

I'm going to always have a home gym, I just need to make more room to expand it. Wife is getting frustrated that they keep closing down her yoga studios (none reasonably close by anymore) and she's thinking about just doing the DDPY stuff with me at home, saving time and money. I like it.

A pic repost...

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With the treadmill lifted and curl bar moved, we have just enough space for our yoga mats, watching the DVDs on the PC monitor. I'm thinking about wall mounting a TV above the window (left) for our workouts, which she could watch on the treadmill and I could watch on the couch during man cave hours (DVD only).


EDIT: And make this wall a mirror wall (above stereo)...

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/29/17 11:00 AM

Thanks RK, that space video looks just like the thing for watching next to a training session.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/29/17 01:56 PM

You’ll love it!

I like going to the Y, although we do have some weights here at the house. It’s part of the ritual and getting away to focus. No kids, no distractions, just me in my zone, along with my wife most nights. Sometimes it gets busy, but most everyone is on the same page about just doing their own thing and there isn’t much competition for machines that you can’t deal with. Being the Y, it’s pretty much just a few people my age and many much older. Monday and Wednesday evenings seem to be the main nights for the “once a weekers” that fill the place up and don’t know the groove of working around each other, so I try to go early those days. The “cool”gyms in town stay busy with the younger crowd since they’re so cheap, so we have it nice.
Might be nice to have a good stationary recumbent bike at home like I use there, but I’d rather spend that money on a real one sometime next year for the road.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/29/17 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by 531 Ghost
Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Go see the battleship Alabama in Mobile along the way. There’s a very good aviation museum there. They even have an SR71. Also a sub, but I forget which one.


That would be the USS Drum. wink

MarkG, you won't be disappointed with PCOLA and the Naval Aviation Museum. Every time I go visit my Mom in Foley, I have to visit. Oh, I'm below 215 now! W00T!


I've been a couple of times, always on a road trip to or from Jax, FL (where I lived) and Baton Rouge, LA. I never could finish it though (complete indoor/outdoor tour) because I didn't have the stamina to walk that much in the allotted time. Unbelievable, compared to the ground I cover today, almost daily, and back then I couldn't cover the distance of a single museum (walking slowly with frequent sitting breaks).

Can't say I miss my "youth" (mainly my 30's).

Congrats on the weight! cheers
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/30/17 02:34 AM

Originally Posted by MarkG
I've been a couple of times, always on a road trip to or from Jax, FL (where I lived) and Baton Rouge, LA. I never could finish it though (complete indoor/outdoor tour) because I didn't have the stamina to walk that much in the allotted time. Unbelievable, compared to the ground I cover today, almost daily, and back then I couldn't cover the distance of a single museum (walking slowly with frequent sitting breaks).


This is why walking is such a good exercise. Now I am a little person, 5'8" and 135, but I walk a lot. I walk my dogs at least 3 x 1 mile walks each day and any time I want to go somewhere within a mile or two, without needing to return with a heavy load, I walk. Today, I wanted a Five Guys burger for lunch. It was 64 degrees and sunny so I walked the two miles both ways (twenty minutes each way).

If it has been a while since a good walk I will feel the muscles tighten but I push through and the discomfort fades away. I read while I walk so the time goes by in a flash.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/30/17 03:19 PM

cichlidfan, you must feel really light on your feet. biggrin

Yup, you may not even be in the mood at first but once you get started, it quickly gets to feeling sooo good. With brisk walking, I start feeling this way after about a half mile, then I start really moving. By then I'm usually sucked into my tunes (I don't think I could walk and read like you do), oblivious to the world around me (why I love a walking/running track vs. sidewalks and streets).
Posted By: oldgrognard

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/30/17 03:43 PM

Man, Thanksgiving did some damage. It isn’t just that day, it’s all the wonderful leftovers for the next several days. I ate too much and things that were not on my normal routine. But I just couldn’t stay away from it. I won’t throw out food and so ... I ate. And oh how did I eat !

Back on the regimen now.
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/01/17 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by MarkG
cichlidfan, you must feel really light on your feet. biggrin

Yup, you may not even be in the mood at first but once you get started, it quickly gets to feeling sooo good. With brisk walking, I start feeling this way after about a half mile, then I start really moving. By then I'm usually sucked into my tunes (I don't think I could walk and read like you do), oblivious to the world around me (why I love a walking/running track vs. sidewalks and streets).


I will certainly admit that being my size and build makes long walks easier. I probably get more of a workout keeping my dogs in line than I do from the walks with them.

I like music while I walk as well but I don't keep much on my phone and I have also found that the music alters my pace. When I read it is just a routine of left foot, right foot, repeat as needed and am able to keep my ears tuned into the surroundings which, so far, keeps me from getting hit by cars and and other potential mishaps.

I have only walked into an obstruction once. I keep glancing up to make sure I am not about to run into someone or something. I did three miles in snow covered sidewalks quite a while back and it was very distracting and greatly interfered with my enjoyment of the book. smile

Btw, most of my neighbors think I am nuts when they see me with my kindle in hand while walking down the sidewalk. I used to do it with actual paper and hardcover books. I love my Kindle.
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/01/17 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by oldgrognard
Man, Thanksgiving did some damage. It isn’t just that day, it’s all the wonderful leftovers for the next several days. I ate too much and things that were not on my normal routine. But I just couldn’t stay away from it. I won’t throw out food and so ... I ate. And oh how did I eat !

Back on the regimen now.


If you only do something like that once or twice a year, it should not be significant to your overall health and weight.

Not throwing out food is a good thing, just balance things out. Thanksgiving leftovers for dinner but hummus with pita bread for lunch and it balances.
Posted By: McGonigle

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/02/17 02:42 PM

Hello all,

I've been wanting to contribute to this thread for quite a while now.

Yoga: I've been doing it on and off for something like two decades now and apart from the fact that I think it is very good for your body, I have also had great benefits in terms of self awareness; noticing behavioural patterns and by knowing of them, change the ones I felt needed to be changed.

The apps: I use Garmin for tracking my cycling and My Fitness Pal for tracking my intake of calories. Without the apps, I think I would have gone back to old habits. The apps have really helped keeping me motivated and on the straight and narrow by "gamifying" the entire process for me.

My activities: Cycling, Yoga and swimming. Those are the activities that I enjoy doing. If I had to jog, or do any activity which I don't enjoy at all, I would not have persisted. I think the fact that each person might enjoy different activities is very important and often quite overlooked by the medical sector, at least that is my personal experience.

Since I started this regime a couple of years ago, I've lost 20 kg/40 Ib and today I weigh in at 71 kg/142 Ib, body fat approx. 21 % which for my age is extremely good. And Cholesterol is down to normal levels. Actually, my doctor can't quite believe it himself.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/02/17 03:49 PM

I think enjoyment is a huge factor. I know there are much more efficient ways of getting cardio in than the recumbent bike, but I hate them. LOL Torturing yourself might work for short term bootcamps, but if going for a lifestyle change long term, you need something you like. Plus, I can burn just as many calories, it just takes longer. Since I enjoy it and I've got the time, I don't mind spending it.

IMO using an app to track food and exercise is invaluable. I still do it daily, it just takes a minute. Looking back I can see things I wouldn't have without it, such as when I'm not keeping up with my carb/fat/protein ratio right, off on my weekly calorie intake, cals burned etc. Oddly enough, I usually find that I need to be eating more, not less, and I know what I'm falling short of. Usually protein, although I'd otherwise think I was fine.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/03/17 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by McGonigle
Yoga: I've been doing it on and off for something like two decades now and apart from the fact that I think it is very good for your body, I have also had great benefits in terms of self awareness; noticing behavioural patterns and by knowing of them, change the ones I felt needed to be changed.


I think maybe I'm not deep enough to appreciate the non-physical aspects of yoga. The closest I've come to meditation is getting high and listening to PF's "Wish You Were Here" and "Dark Side Of The Moon". smile The closest I come today isn't sitting on a mat in the Lotus position, instead I stretch out on my man cave couch with lights dimmed (just installed light dimming via remote control) listening to New Age or Classical on headphones (favorites being Ray Lynch and Enya). Not the same thing, but I can easily lose myself in music, even without a couple of relaxing drinks.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/04/17 10:47 PM

All right, my heart rate monitors arrived this afternoon (also from DDPY, along with some t-shirts and metal license plate holder, all from their Clearance page). We'll be starting our first regular Beginner routine tonight.

The complete package...

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I had a bad eating day on Saturday, visiting family in Lafayette, LA, a ginormous spread. I'd say it was the cheat day of cheat days, carrying over into yesterday as our generous host made plates for us to take home. That's going to do it for the year, now I'm ready to get serious again. smile

I'm responding well to the DDP pro-wrestling attitude on my DVDs (also some additional YT inspirational videos), but the ultimate would be to have Gunnery Sergeant Hartman (R. Lee Ermey) live at my house for a couple of months or so to totally kick my ass back into a real routine! biggrin Yeah, I thought about that after watching the "Full Metal Jacket - Gomer Pyle" clip in the necroed PWEC thread (also reminds me how much I miss "Mail Call"). I've tried getting my wife to scream at me a little for motivation, but it doesn't really work, she's not convincing or intimidating enough. I also tried giving her my best drill sergeant persona once, but that didn't go down so well. smile So now we both get at least a little dose of that tough instruction style but mild enough that she enjoys it as well.

I'm already becoming more limber from the pre-beginner workout, and now I'm about to turn it up a notch.

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/05/17 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by cichlidfan
I like music while I walk as well but I don't keep much on my phone and I have also found that the music alters my pace. When I read it is just a routine of left foot, right foot, repeat as needed and am able to keep my ears tuned into the surroundings which, so far, keeps me from getting hit by cars and and other potential mishaps.


I was thinking about this yesterday and you're right, music sets your walking pace. On most songs, I either keep in step with a song's beat (time signature?), step with every other beat (moving slower) or take two steps for every beat (moving faster), depending on the song and my mood. I can see where this would be irritating for some but for me, music motivates me to take those steps in the first place. I have to tune out my surroundings (and sometimes discomfort) and focus on the music to put forth any real effort. I can take a nice nature or conversational walk at a slower pace, but I'm talking about brisk walking or jogging at longer distances. This doesn't come natural to me.

I know it sounds cheesy, but I often listen to mid-80's Rush when endurance walking or jogging (Rush with a steady beat, usually a mix of "Grace Under Pressure" and "A Show Of Hands" concert CDs), visualizing that I'm a tired Neil Peart and have to get through a show. Just a couple more songs or so to go (~5 min. each), I can make it. Encore, just one more song! Well, it works for me. smile

Regarding surroundings and mishaps, this is why we choose walking/running paths and tracks (we have 3 to choose from, plus a college campus). No skaters or cyclers to worry about either, only people (usually grooving to their own tunes).

I'm finding Genesis has some *excellent* longer steady-paced songs in their discography, perfect for the track.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/10/17 06:21 AM

I hit the big 5-0 this weekend! No, not that 50, I have about 3 more years before that. This was the one where I rewarded myself with my first pizza since the Summer. LOL Maybe I can have another by mid-Spring.
That’s the equivalent of the biggest bag of dog food or 6 gallons of water. Holy crap, how did it fit?
Good riddance!

I’m in a new territory, it’s been a long time since I was this size and I certainly wasn’t in remotely the shape/health back then since I was on a slow decline. Quitting the 4 week weigh in’s, I need to monitor more closely now and I want to be sure every week is productive. I don’t want to waste weeks if I need to modify the diet or workouts since it’s a little harder to drop weight now than in the beginning.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/10/17 10:37 PM

So you dropped 50 lbs., RK? Congrats. I think of those heavy 50 lbs. blocks of salt I use to have to add to my water softener system when I lived in Florida, what a pain in the butt.

We have 3 calendar checkpoints between now and our NYC vacation in April (celebrating our 30th). A 16-day road trip, first to Atlanta and then through the mountains, leaving the rental in Newark and taking a cab to our Manhattan hotel (for 8 days). From there it'll all be on foot (with pedometers), riding the subway or taking a taxi only if absolutely necessary. The calendar checkpoints are for pulling out large plastic clothes containers in our closets, organized in decreasing sizes, the last ones containing my 32"W and Med shirts, her 0's-2's. We have concrete goals and are on a mission!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/17 12:36 AM

This afternoon I went through the wringer...eyes dilated, teeth scraped, and to top if off...a flu shot. Now I need a *real* shot!
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/17 02:48 AM

I hear whisky increases the effectiveness of vaccinations. Well, it sounds good at least...
I’m still working off the pizza I earned for hitting 50 lbs! I hit that thing hard. LOL
Another 30 and maybe I can have another one.
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/17 03:03 AM

My weight is not an issue, well maybe slightly since I love ice cream. However, my dogs are eating half green beans and half dog food and that seems to be working for them.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/17 05:35 AM

Hope you enjoyed that reward pizza, RK! biggrin I'll probably not be eating pizza until NYC, but then I prefer a Chicago-style thick crust anyway, so it might not be such a big deal (although I'm sure I can find that somewhere in Manhattan).

cichlidfan, we keep our two dogs and cat (all rescues) at their proper weights as well, our male Jack by necessity as we got him with liver damage (10 years with us [11 years old] and still kicking). Also, fitness/proper weight is the rule of the house, the animals are not exempt. smile I remember when we got Ralphie (our male Jack), he'd bug the crap out of me to get my big butt off the sofa and take him for a walk (our yard in Jax, FL wasn't fenced). Then we got Suzie right after, so now I had two dogs constantly bugging me for walks (pics below).

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As of tonight I think we have our updated evening routine pretty well down pat:

Sat. Mon. Wed. -> Weights
Sun. Tue. Thu. -> Yoga
Fri. -> Free

...and cardio (treadmill or track) whenever we can squeeze it in, trying for twice on weekdays and once on the weekend. It amounts to about 45 min./day or 1.5 hours/day when we also do cardio (not counting any driving if we go to a track, usually running errands along the way).

My biggest sacrifice right now is not drinking any of my calories (including booze, with rare and very moderate exceptions), meaning that I'm laying off the OJ and milk in the morning, only coffee and drinking it plain black. The coffee is tough, but I'm getting used to it and finding some coffees taste better than others without any fixin's.

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Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/17 06:07 AM

@MarkG Great looking dogs. I love JRs, they are like fur covered springs.

Mine are beagle mixes. Personally, the best thing I have done for my calorie intake is to eliminate soda's and drink only water, with a squirt of that Mio flavor stuff. Never got the coffee habit so I don't have to worry about the additives to that.

My dogs, especially the 11 yo are lazy. The 5 yo is only a tiny bit overweight but the 11 yo, adopted last year, is way over her optimum weight and since I spoil them with more treats than I should, though duck breast jerky is pretty lean, they need to cut back. The green beans work fairly well but it is only six weeks into the new diet, so time will tell. They get regular walks but as slow as they move, spending more time sniffing than walking, I don't think it amounts to much in the way of calorie burning.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/14/17 07:11 AM

Speaking of house rules, I’ve gotten everyone off of soft drinks. The kids can have one on Sat night cheat night when I get my cheeseburger. wink
The only drinks we buy are lots of milk, the kids down that stuff, some sparkling Ice water..easily replaces soft drinks and no cals...grapefruit juice and I have a glass of sweet tea at dinner. Coffee will always be part of our daily routine. I even have a cup 30mins before working out. Some free energy w/o cals. Supposedly good for pumping up! LOL
Sometimes I do a BCAA supplement water mix, but I prefer to just eat right. Water, water, water.
Gotta say, we’re saving a ton of money at the grocery store too. The freezer stays full of frozen veggies, chicken and fish.

I’m still 6 days a week in general, but I’ll drop a day when I need to, to recoup a little more as I get worn down or need to rest my elbow or whatever is starting to get inflamed. I was being stubborn for a long time not easing up when I needed to and paid for it. I’m smarter about it now.
Cardio on the bike 45 mins 6 days/week. It’s no joke, I’m about wasted after this. I’m currently spreading out my weight sessions due to that elbow issue, so instead of a couple of big upper body days and a couple of lower body days, I’m just doing 20 mins every day which is about 4 machines a day, spreading it all around more. I was getting worried about the elbow issue there for a while, but I’m managing to fend it off now and keep moving.

Adapting keeps it interesting! It’s easier to do all this taking it on as a lifestyle and hobby rather than a bootcamp to endure and hate. Slow and steady wins the race!

I love the JR’s, our first dog after we got married was a JR mix. So fast! He lived to 17, as sweet as he could be. Always looked out for our kids, checked on them every night once we had them and slept outside their doors when they were babies.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/15/17 04:16 AM

Thanks for the doggie compliments and stories, guys, they appreciated it (or maybe because I was scratching the backs of their ears when telling them). smile cichlidfan, keep us updated how the green beans work.

Day 2 of 2 for afternoon medical appointments, including cardiologist. Doc. walks in, looks over wife's new blood work, looks at her, back at paperwork, flips pages and compares with previous numbers, "That's really good." HDL up 8 (77), Triglycerides down 35 (104). He acknowledged that these positive changes were likely mostly due to exercise vs. diet (we've tightened up a little on both, but mostly exercise). This made us feel really good, to see tangible results medically, not just weight and size.

We're about to open another rotor-rooter prep kit, but not mine this time. I could stand to join the fun and do another soup broth day (closest I've come to fasting), but I'll pass on the cleanout cocktail. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/23/17 03:54 PM

Thread is a couple years old now, how we doin'?

The good and bad for me...

The bad:
- Never finished the job, from ~270 lbs. (122.5 kg) to 180 lbs. (81.6 kg) in 2008/09, still stuck around ~200 lbs. (90.7) and still trying for ~170 lbs. (77.1 kg).
- More cheating/cheat days than I should.

The good:
+ I feel fantastic and stronger than ever! Best of all I don't hurt anymore. I've had constant nagging aches and pains for as long as I can remember, and not just while working out but also when trying to sleep. They're gone, it's been weeks now since I remember anything hurting.
+ Clothes fit me better than my weight would suggest, but still not where I want to be.
+ Wife assures me that my occasional cheating/cheat days are still better than what she remembers my eating was like on a regular basis 10+ years ago.

Thinking back, I usually do pretty good on the 8's...

1988: Got married.
1998: Eh, not so good...my 30's sucked.
2008: Made major lifestyle changes.
2018: Finish the job? Finally?

If I were making a New Year's Resolution it would be to finally put the weight/BF% loss behind me and to just concentrate on overall physique (slim but muscular).
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/23/17 04:25 PM

Weighed myself yesterday - 203 lbs. Down from over 230 in about a year. Lately I've increased my cycling which helps immensely. Did 11.2 miles in 54 minutes. Combined inclines gave me 233 ft elevation gain. Estimated calories burned - 710. Crappy red lights and stop signs probably added 5 minutes (I try to cheat those whenever I think it is safe to do so). Oh, I just got a Garmin Vivoactive 3! Makes it even more fun (that and creating biking playlists for my iPod). smile

What's also interesting is to see first hand how well my blood pressure responds to exercise. 10 minutes after a ride like yesterday's my pressure will be at about 123 over 89 with my heart rate at about 105 (down from 163 at its highest). Another 15 minutes and the BP will be around 115 over 82 with the HR down to about 90.
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/25/17 10:19 PM

Just wondering, anybody here use some sort of GPS-enabled device? I just bought a Garmin VivoActive 3. It's basically a smart watch with GPS capability. I use it for tracking my cycling activities. For me it is primarily a toy, but I must say it is a really cool toy. It makes my exercise more fun! Hey, if a toy is good for my health then that's pretty cool! smile
Posted By: McGonigle

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/25/17 10:31 PM

I love my fenix 3, Wear it 24/7/365 and I'm considering getting the new dresswatch from Garmin for the hr monitor and the understated looks. I think it is great tracking all the stats on Connect; swimmingpool, biking, steps, sleep, although some measurements like no. of stairs climbed are a bit off.
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/27/17 08:15 PM

McGonigle, sometimes I find it to be a little cheeky. It buzzes and when I look at the notification it says "Move!" And this is after 11 miles on my bike. My watch is like a girlfriend now, "What have you done for me lately?" smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/27/17 09:38 PM

Lol, Letterboy. biggrin

I need a personal GPS that nags like my wife: "Why are you parking so close?", "Let's go this way, see if we can find the stairs.", "Walk faster!" Always looking for the shortest, easiest, most efficient longest, most annoying time consuming distance between two points.

Gadgets? Bah. Our cheap hr monitors ($32.00/ea.) are about as moody as the hand grip hr monitor on the treadmill, being occasionally accurate when they want to work at all. It's also kind of uncomfortable exercising with a strap around your ribcage.

Do the more expensive watch type hr monitors work well? Further testing of our hr monitors may be required (and I have some...ideas). wink
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/27/17 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
Lol, Letterboy. biggrin
Do the more expensive watch type hr monitors work well? Further testing of our hr monitors may be required (and I have some...ideas). wink


I just compared my Garmin hear rate with my OmRon blood pressure cuff and the heart rate is about the same on both. Of course that doesn't mean you need to spend the extra bucks if what you have serves your purpose. I just wanted all that GPS functionality so I was happy to spend the extra dollars. Ultimately I admit that it's a toy, albeit a toy with benefits. smile
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/17 01:38 AM

I had a Garmin, I forget which, that I found a great deal on at Amazon warehouse. Thing is I just wanted to know what my HR was while working out after doing the cardio part of my workout. Wore it once, found out what I wanted to know. Couldn’t think of what else I wanted it for and I like the stopwatch on my watch, so I returned it. LOL
Love Amazon returns!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/17 04:44 PM

Yeah, if you wear a hr monitor through a routine for a time or two, and don't change your routine, it's kinda pointless and inconvenient to keep wearing it. I could have purchased just one and we both play around with it.

I guess a monitor is important as a warning for anyone who doesn't want their hr to exceed a certain limit (you can set a low/high alarm range for your age or personal preferences), but I wouldn't rely on a cheap one for that.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/17 04:55 PM

Yeah and I can’t see wearing one of those straps for the monitor.
Posted By: McGonigle

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/17 08:30 PM

Regarding HR sensors and measurement, I'm pretty sure that wrist based measurement does not work and is not supported when swimming. You have to use a chest strap with a monitor specifically designed for the purpose.

initially I was very weary of wearing a chest strap monitor but after wearing one for one or two bike rides I didn't give it a second thought, and now I wear it on every bike ride. They're quite useful too I think.

I've guesstimated my max. pulse and can now use the HR monitor to help me stay in the HR zone I want to be in, for example fat burning is supposed to be most effective at approx. 80 % of the max. pulse. It also helps me combat my ingrown laziness by letting me know if my pulse is too low when exercising. Furthermore, measuring the heart rate, my watch, or my bike computer can better estimate the amount of calories I burn, and give me suggestions for a suitable period for restitution. The latter especially I think is genius because some trips require perhaps 40 hours of restitution while others require only 24 hours, and without my pulse data I would nor be aware of these factors, and how my periods of restitution are affected by how much time I spend in my max. heart rate zone.

Finally, if you track your heart rate at rest over a period of training, you will have an indication of your level of fitness attained.

All in all, I think a heart rate monitor helps me a great deal when planning and getting the most out of my exercising, while still bearing in mind that these devices are not 100% accurate and as such you should only regard them as tools to largely indicate the parameters measured, not regard them as absolute truths.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/19/18 05:33 PM

Pulling out clothes containers every six weeks or so is like a parole hearing, constant rejection but being hopeful that maybe next time... smile

Yeah, probably not the next few "hearings" (also have vintage 501's in the attic).

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/19/18 07:27 PM

I wish I'd kept my old 501's. I'm enjoying a lot of old clothes I haven't worn in years that I still like too.
Got rid of my Tgiving/Christmas weight pretty quickly. Back to some proper gains..or losses rather. LOL
I've got 10 months of targets set up for the year, with the hardest being between now and my regular doc appt on 2/23. Shooting for 2lb/week until then. After that about 1.5-1.7/wk for a good while.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/19/18 08:33 PM

Lost my extra X-Mas Kilo. So back under the magic 80, but want to move towards the 76 for summer.

Been wondering if I should get a dip station / gym tower. One of these things that allows for pullups, dips, leg raises etc. I did read that leg raises might cause hernias when done improperly, which worries me a bit. I'd appreciate the increased exercise possibilities but I sure don't want to hurt myself.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/23/18 11:25 PM

RSC, is this what you're talking about (I'm looking at a cheap one myself)?
Body Champ VKR Power Tower

I don't want to chance hurting myself either, which is why I'll probably never try lifting *real* weight nor do exercises requiring a weightlifting belt. I'm thinking about the tower though, the yoga stuff has convinced me that you don't need weights to get in a good workout and I'd like to mix it up a bit more using my body weight.

++++++++++

I'm covering 6 miles (9.66 km) a day on the treadmill (1.0 incline) in 3 sessions (morning, afternoon, evening) of 20-25 min. each, mostly jogging but some walking. I know that's not great times (even 2 miles [3.2 km] in 20 min.) and not where I wanted to be right now, but my cardio has been slacking lately so I'm half-ass starting over (though I never completely quit).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/23/18 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
I wish I'd kept my old 501's. I'm enjoying a lot of old clothes I haven't worn in years that I still like too.

I had to go digging in this thread for this 1987 pic (2nd pic is recent) so as not to make a new attachment (have to post them full-size though)...

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Every so often I come across another picture (usually in a family album) of clothing I still have from 30+ years ago. I'm going to have fun with that one day. biggrin

I was also going to take some "after pics" at my parent's house (where most of my old pics were taken, like above) but that's not possible now that they've sold their house.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/24/18 09:11 AM

Yeah Mark, exactly something like that. Dips, Leg Raises, Pullups etc... would really add to my exercise variety.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 04:16 AM

RK, I just noticed your loss/projected loss is pretty good. So you plan to wrap it up this year (next 10 months) and then continue with maintenance? 2018...will be the year?! cheers

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Mrs. and I have been watching old James Bonds (she zones in-and-out) and she thinks she's found my soon-to-be future look (minus the head of hair, was that real?)...

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Lol. Trim, but no six-pack and not all that buff. Plus I've got the old man chest hairs growing wild now, so I think maybe I can pull off this physique! biggrin


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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 08:48 AM

I always find it interesting, if you look at the "Hot Guys" from yesterday, that none required a sixpack and hair was absolutly necessary. Steve McQueen looked much the same, physically.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 02:13 PM

Sean has more hair on his chest than I do on my entire body. Well, at least back then he did. biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 03:04 PM

Whoa, Connery is 6' 2" (1.89 m). At 5' 9" (1.75 m), I won't be matching that part of his physique.

Originally I was thinking Geddy, and with a closer height to me of 5' 10" (1.78 m)...

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...but I don't think I'll ever be able to show that much rib. biggrin

IIRC, RSC has a professional looking shirtless pic buried somewhere in this thread which will be hard to beat...freggin' young people! old_simmer

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 03:06 PM

^If it helps that's exactly how I feel about 25yos...
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 03:18 PM

biggrin

It's on my mind because we're setting our August dates for a Pensacola trip (Aviation Museum and beach) and I'm going to be ready for my first shirtless beach vacation in over 25 years (always wearing at least a muscle shirt, just couldn't do shirtless).
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 03:45 PM

So Mark, are you saying that your body isn't "beach ready" yet?
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 04:07 PM

Your body isn't "beach ready" when the people from Greenpeace show up and try to push you into the sea.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
So Mark, are you saying that your body isn't "beach ready" yet?


Sure, I'd do it now, if only I had a beach to go to. Besides, at 50, I give myself some slack. smile

From a fuzzy decaying Polaroid, summer of '86, I believe...

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^ That ain't right to me for being only 18 or 19. I can also see the chub starting in the shirt pic I posted recently, I had just turned 20 (last quarter of '87, I can tell by the new pin stripe on my car).

In 2008/09 I'd lost ~80 lbs. (maybe 70 lbs. in this pic) but wasn't really working out yet, thus no chest definition...

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It's the definition I'm working on now (and with lots more chest hair biggrin ), but just getting rid of the large gut was the most important (and healthiest) thing. I still have too much belly right now (probably a little more than in that pic), but arms and chest have also gotten bigger (or more defined) over the last few years. I'm just now trying to finish the job by losing the remaining excessive body fat.

The beach trip is a big deal for me, something I wanted to do at least once before getting old(er).

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/25/18 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
RK, I just noticed your loss/projected loss is pretty good. So you plan to wrap it up this year (next 10 months) and then continue with maintenance? 2018...will be the year?! cheers

++++++++++

Mrs. and I have been watching old James Bonds (she zones in-and-out) and she thinks she's found my soon-to-be future look (minus the head of hair, was that real?)...

Lol. Trim, but no 6-pack and not all that buff. Plus I've got the old man chest hairs growing wild now, so I think maybe I can pull off this physique! biggrin


Yeah, I hope to get to the point I'm happy by Summer and then see what happens as far as transitioning to concentrate more on the weights and cut back on the cardio a bit. Add in my "real" bike, less stationary. Just have to see how things go. I'm not unhappy even with progress slowing some as long as there's progress.
I do have a plan I'm trying to stick to for my ideal progression, but it doesn't take into account adding muscle, so it may get tweaked.

Currently, I've gotten down from 280 to 228 (I'm 6'). I hate putting numbers to it, but I'm proud of the progress. So, about 52 lbs, but I know I've lost more than that in fat since I'm noticing more muscle and I'm shaping up. No one else would notice but my wife, but I do and that's what matters. LOL

Goal 1: 2/23 (doctor's appt) is to be at 219 lbs. Cutting it close, I have 9 to go and I seem to be putting on muscle as well as losing fat, so my figures aren't moving much. Been hitting it hard lately and getting better and better on my diet.
I needed 2 lbs a week to hit this, which is difficult right now. Last time I was there I'd only lost 22 lbs but my numbers were looking good. This should be interesting!
Goal 2: 6/2 is to be at 199. This 1 last pound is HUGE psychologically. If I hit the last goal, this is roughly 1.5 lbs/wk. That's one year after I got started, although I didn't get super serious until Sept. Still, I consider that my journey anniversary date. That would be 81 lbs lost.
Goal 3: 8/18 is to be 180. That would be the 100 lb mark. I forget what that date represents. I think I just want to hit the 100 lb mark by Sept 1, which is when I started the 6 days a week last year and taking it to the next level.
Goal 4: 10/5 longshot goal is 170lbs. At this point if I'm in the ballpark, I've already won I figure. Just icing on the cake.
Hidden Goal #5!
Motorcycle. yeah
Part of what started all of this was not wanting to look like a circus bear on a bicycle if I got one. LOL

Currently, I'm to the point my chest would cross a finish line before my stomach, so that's a good thing. LOL Punched yet another hole in my belt just today.
I'd like to look better than Sean in that pic. I'm curious what it's possible for me to be like if I stick with this. I'd like my late 40's to be my best "me" to date. I was usually waay too skinny growing up. Then a brief period in 20's-early 30's of being a good size, but not healthy due to smoking, taking my diet for granted and although I did ride my bike a good bit periodically, exercise was never really part of my life. Smoking is years in my past now, diet is rocking and I'm working out 6 days a week. This should be good!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/26/18 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
I'd like my late 40's to be my best "me" to date.


Rock on, RK! cheers

It seems to me that around 48 or so, my progress wasn't matching the effort as it had in my early 40's, and I expect my 50's to be even more disappointing as far as effort goes. But that's ok, I'll take any progress. So it's a good idea to wrap it up for your late-40's as I believe it's easier to maintain what you've accomplished when you look and feel your best.

Regardless of how discouraged I get sometimes, it would be impossible for me to stop because the main catalyst is and always will be my wife's heart health (although any concern right now is unwarranted, as long as we keep it up...and we will). My new clothes, her new size 2's and recent spa pampering (manicures/pedicures/makeup) is all just added gravy, the *real* reward is the report cards we get from our physicians (and I'd bet money that my GP is about to completely take me off BP meds). Age will eventually catch up with us (possibly going back on meds), but there's nothing wrong with being the best you can be...for any age.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/26/18 03:14 PM

I’m wondering about meds too, but I bet my doc will want to wait and see me maintain first.
I’m also curious about my cholesterol. They say it can go up at times due to burning so much more fat. It enters the bloodstream as cholesterol, but I don’t know if it’s HDL or LDL. Still for the better of course, it can just make the results look funny numerically.

I’m recording my BP and at different times of the day it stays in the same range as this morning at 113/66, 67 pulse.
Looking back at 2/13 last year it was 132/90 @ 91. It was even higher at the doctor’s office IIRC.

The weight is just one number, there are so many other benefits.
Keep it up guys!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/26/18 03:52 PM

In case anyone is interested in getting started with weights [without joining a gym]...

Again, I have a "Mickey Mouse" gym...

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...with two of these ~$100.00 weight sets...
http://www.sears.com/weider-pro-290-w/p-00615891000P

...as I've combined mine and my father's (his bench is put away).

Plus I bought a slightly heavier-duty barbell (not a standard 45 lbs. bar, more like 10 or 15 lbs.) and curl bar (also not heavy-duty). Later I added a $200.00 dumbell set from Costco and a set of ladies dumbbells.

If I had it over to do again I would have done it a little differently (better quality bench), but I still think I could have done it all for no more than $500.00.

The hardest part was getting started, and I did this by reading websites and watching YouTube videos for proper form. The problem is there's plenty of conflicting information on the danger and effectiveness of some exercises (i.e. butterfly curls), so I (we) just don't push that hard on this starter gym.

I studied the exercise maps and created a spreadsheet, then got us both a clipboard to keep up with weight and exercises, trying to mix it up a little for each muscle group. Usually wife just follows my lead, adjusting weights accordingly.

Showing 2-page spreadsheet on two clipboards...

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EDIT: What I'm thinking about doing is moving my wife's 4'x4' project table (mainly for cross-stitching and puzzles like the Simpsons and Saturn V in my above pic) to the other guest bedroom and adding a tower station like RSC was referring to, in that corner. This would make my gym complete, I believe (other than a new heavy-duty bench and iron weights restoration, a project for springtime).

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/10/18 06:48 PM

happy_bday RK!

Now, put that third piece of cake down and step away!
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/10/18 08:57 PM

LOL
Thanks! 47 today.
Keeping it simple, but we’ll make some mug cakes or something. Already worked out to offset it. thumbsup
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/13/18 02:52 PM

So I started my low carb diet yesterday. Let's see how long I can stick to it. biggrin
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/13/18 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
So I started my low carb diet yesterday. Let's see how long I can stick to it. biggrin



I've posted some of my favorite low carb recipes here: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4402270/weight-loss-recipes#Post4402270
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/13/18 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
So I started my low carb diet yesterday. Let's see how long I can stick to it. biggrin



I've posted some of my favorite low carb recipes here: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4402270/weight-loss-recipes#Post4402270



Thanks! I'll check these out. I will say that living in Miami and staying away from RICE is not easy!
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/13/18 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
So I started my low carb diet yesterday. Let's see how long I can stick to it. biggrin



I've posted some of my favorite low carb recipes here: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4402270/weight-loss-recipes#Post4402270



Thanks! I'll check these out. I will say that living in Miami and staying away from RICE is not easy!



Some people will say not to do this but I'm down 15 pounds from January 1 and I do it: be low carb strict for the first few weeks, but then allow yourself a "cheat" meal once, maybe twice a week. I had a cheeseburger plate last Saturday biggrin
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/13/18 07:08 PM

IMO, it's better in the long run to just eat the right things, at the right times and in the right amounts rather than subscribe to a certain "diet". Paying attention and tracking what you consume to get real figures is extremely helpful and easy to do now with apps.
Creating a sustainable lifestyle will be something to help you long term instead of risking yo-yo dieting.
Posted By: PanzerMeyer

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/13/18 07:10 PM

Good point RK. Well, I've eliminated the 11:00 pm runs to Wendy's so that should be a big help for me. biggrin
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/13/18 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
IMO, it's better in the long run to just eat the right things, at the right times and in the right amounts rather than subscribe to a certain "diet". Paying attention and tracking what you consume to get real figures is extremely helpful and easy to do now with apps.
Creating a sustainable lifestyle will be something to help you long term instead of risking yo-yo dieting.




I think you are right when it comes to maintaining a given, healthy weight. But those of us who have "slipped up" in that regard need a stricter diet regime to get back to that healthy weight.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/14/18 12:13 AM

I think you're ALL correct! cheers

Maintaining weight loss is every bit as challenging.as losing it, as indicated by the abysmal statistics of people who keep it off long-term.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/14/18 12:54 AM

I'm finally getting into a bit of technology (Bluetooth Fitbit pedometer to phone, pic below)...

Wife activated her Fitbit today (I don't get one), coinciding with a short vacation starting tomorrow (3 days + weekend) that we're going to spend doing some serious walking. She not only gets Amazon dollars for steps (a point system based on # of steps within a timeframe), but also gets insurance bonuses to cover out-of-pocket expenses, even more if we get physicals with good numbers (everything is through her job).

Her employer also registered us for a 5k on March 3rd (Breast Cancer). She takes anything job-related very seriously so I know we'll be ready for it, also building stamina for NYC. Man, the fitbit steps are going to get crazy high in NYC, I think.

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/14/18 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by F4UDash4
Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
IMO, it's better in the long run to just eat the right things, at the right times and in the right amounts rather than subscribe to a certain "diet". Paying attention and tracking what you consume to get real figures is extremely helpful and easy to do now with apps.
Creating a sustainable lifestyle will be something to help you long term instead of risking yo-yo dieting.




I think you are right when it comes to maintaining a given, healthy weight. But those of us who have "slipped up" in that regard need a stricter diet regime to get back to that healthy weight.


Don’t get me wrong, I know how it is. Been literally working my ass off at it since June. Working out and eating right is what it takes. I just preferred to change how I eat/drink rather than “diet” so I form new habits and food I like. Plus, with losing a lot of weight, I want to avoid loose skin if possible, and that’s done by being patient and not trying to emulate the Biggest Loser-style extreme loss methods. No more than 2 lbs a week once you get by that initial water weight loss period. So far so good for me, 55 lbs down.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/18 04:04 PM

My legs feel like Jello, covering at least 10 miles (16 km) a day on the treadmill, some running but mostly brisk walking. I'm waiting for the time change in a couple of weeks to have enough time for outside walks when wife gets home.

In a month we'll be taking a short vacation road trip to Pawhuska, OK and then to Mansfield, MO, staying at old-fashion Western-styled bed-and-breakfasts in the middle of both towns. We'll be walking the towns (and to Laura Ingall's house just outside of town) to see just how much ground we can cover in a short time. The Country Western Prairie thing to me sounds kinda meh, but it should definitely be different exploring these places than NYC the following month.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/18 04:08 PM

I'm struggling to get back into the habit of regular exercise.

Went to the indoor climbing hall on Sunday, that was good. I'm thinking I'll put "Training Appointments" into my calendar now. With the increased workload on my second job I find it so hard to keep my evenings free, and if I have them I tend to just hang around doing nothing.

On my business trips to Singapore maybe I'll make good use of the hotel gym. That might get me started.
Posted By: rwatson

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/18 04:47 PM

Weight has never been a problem for me I go 170 maybe 173 sometimes....What's getting to me is age...Especially in the winter I have an 80# lab and live in a small town ,,,So we get up a 4 am (Habit) if the weather is tolerable we go one mile East to the county line and if it's still good we go back and a mile west..But the weather holds me back ..I walk down a short hill to the mail street and took a slide the 1st of the month and my right shoulder and upper arm is one healing bruise..Doctor said just badly bruised and if it's frosty out stay close to home.....There is a small gym up the street but it's all college kids there I felt out of place..My best excersice is walking my car died over the summer and I don't see the need to replace it....Grocer,,Hardware,,Dollar General..Library,,,Dog groomer and library are all within walking distance and I set a good pace..Rain I can handle slept in enough of it but the icy conditions are treacherous And some of the things not around town Amazon has those,,Thst's where I get my dog food from...It's over 70 here today and I'm taking the girl for a walk after lunch
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/18 05:33 PM

I was feeling too old for my age which is what got me started as much as wanting to lose weight. I was stiffening up and had required physical therapy twice in a year for different issues. Now...I still have a way to go on weight, but in general I’m already better off than when I was 27, 20 years ago.
Finding what you enjoy doing and a place you’re comfortable doing it isn’t easy. Most gyms here are high school/college kids too. They generally waste time, play on their phones, make a mess, don’t wipe down equipment, holler to show off while lifting and take up multiple machines at once. It’s obnoxious. Not all are like that, but it only takes a few to ruin things.
That’s why I like the Y. It costs more so they get weeded out. It’s just $67/mo, but the “cool” places are $15-30 to attract the younger crowd. It’s mostly older people and others my age at the Y.
Once you get comfortable you’ll try more and more things. You realize no one cares in an adult crowd, everyone is mainly focused on their own thing.
It was kind of a mess after New Years with a lot of new “resolutioners” getting in the way and not knowing the flow of things, but most are already falling off the wagon now so it’s getting back to normal.

Mark, 10 miles is impressive!
Posted By: rwatson

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/18 05:48 PM

-We don't have any thing even close to a Y around here..At least the weathers changing..In the summer I do my own yard work and that gets me back in shape quick and I can go out side for some military style exercises at least I've taken the best step no butts.. I did notice excercise machines where I go to the doctor I think they might have a seniors program
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/18 05:55 PM

Hospitals may have a program you can join, or your doctor might be able to refer one. Maybe some physical therapists could do the same? My parents and in-laws go to a nice one run by a big hospital here, but it’s at it’s own location.
Like you said though, just getting moving is huge, and without a weight issue, you have a lot going for you.
Posted By: rwatson

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/20/18 06:08 PM

Brought in the excersice bike from the garage ..:Last year I was working it twice a day also have a set of bands you hook to the door...Enough to get started on getting the winter looseness out of me..
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/23/18 05:02 PM

Woohoo!
I got off of one of my two blood pressure pills with my checkup today. My BP is awesome and steady. I’ve had some flutters and lightheadedness during and after workouts that he said is a sign the diuretic needs to go. No longer needed! That means fewer side effects: I won’t be losing potassium, so better recovery from workouts and lower insulin that may make it easier to lose fat. If things keep going well, maybe I can get off of the other pill.
I’m anxious to see my blood test results, but I expect just good news like last time.
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/23/18 11:08 PM

About six months ago I was 230 lbs. Yesterday I was 184 lbs. My goal is 170 lbs by next New Year - 170 is the weight that my doc considers ideal for me (I'm 51 years old and 5'7" in height). If I were ambitious enough I could reach that weight much sooner, but I have no real reason to be on any strict diet so I am happy to use the gradual approach. My weight is dropping with minor fluctuations but a steady downward trend. My diet includes a lot of raw vegetables but at the same time allows for moderate carbs while keeping fast food as a once-a-month treat.

I am also in the group of SimHQ members here who likes using some sort of gadget - in my case, a Garmin VivoActive 3. For a toy, it comes in handy! I enjoy keeping track of my little stats as I improve my bike rides.

Anyway, I am glad to see that this thread is being kept alive. More power to you all for making the extra effort - exercise is easier to skip than it is to stick to. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/24/18 03:19 PM

You guys are motivating the hell out of me! cheers

RK, I went through a similar experience, occasionally feeling slightly dizzy after running 20 min. or so on the treadmill. GP halved my dosage of my bigger pill (of two) and that did the trick. I can't wait to get off of them completely as well and be med free.

letterboy1, you're approaching a 50 lbs. loss, that's fantastic! Yup, slow and steady is the way to go, especially after reaching whatever you consider as an acceptable quality of life, the remainder can take it's sweet ol' time.

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Wife brought home our 5k packages yesterday (pic below) for next Saturday (3/3). Included were a couple of t-shirts (typical 5k T and a much nicer one with her company logo, size L fits me comfortably now) plus whatever they're giving away on race day (caps), all on someone else's dime. smile We'll still give our own donation (as suggested), but it's pretty cool to me to see an employer actively participate in employee health (including associated insurance benefits). Along with the Fitbit pedometer program, they also (usually) have an annual Health Fair with free screenings including blood testing. All they need now is an on-site gym and to allow spouses to use it.

We're going for a walk/run this morning before the rain returns (would much rather be outside than on a treadmill), some new music to listen to including classic greatest hits from Triumph and Yes.

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Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/24/18 06:35 PM

@MarkG, greatest hits from Yes? Excellent! Music is one thing I can't enjoy so much on my bike because the wind rushing over the earbuds drowns it out (and I don't want to crank the volume too high). When it's cold enough to wear something over my head and ears, it works out fine, but as it is getting warmer I'll have to listen to music while walking/jogging.
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/24/18 06:43 PM

Hi, my name is MadDog and I'm a fatso.

I finally gave myself a kick in the arse. Somewhat driven by a good friend and also my cousin who both are losing weight.

Started at a icky top of 120,5 kg in early january. Then a new training studio opened up just 5 minutes walk from where I live and I decided in late january to give it a shot. I was a bit worried as it is an unmanned studio, with no workout classes or anything and I've been a "support member" of gyms before.

But so far (knock on wood) it has gone well.
I'm only doing walking/slow jogging and now lately cross-trainer (elipse machine), no working weights yet. Will come later. My main goal is to increase my endurance and capability to walk uphill without panting like a stuck pig (I love mountain hiking here in Norway).

At the same time I've started to eat less. Not a set diet or anything, just not eating three courses at lunch and a full dinner anymore.

So far I started at 120,5 kgs in early january and this morning I was down to 111,3 kgs. So a loss of 7,2 kg in 1,5 months. And that is really the big motivator - seeing that it works.

My first big goal is going below 100kgs, at which turn I might start doing some weight training to build some muslce strength.
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/24/18 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Woohoo!
I got off of one of my two blood pressure pills with my checkup today. My BP is awesome and steady. I’ve had some flutters and lightheadedness during and after workouts that he said is a sign the diuretic needs to go. No longer needed! That means fewer side effects: I won’t be losing potassium, so better recovery from workouts and lower insulin that may make it easier to lose fat. If things keep going well, maybe I can get off of the other pill.
I’m anxious to see my blood test results, but I expect just good news like last time.


I'm hoping to get fit enough that eventually, I'll get off the beta blocker and maybe even the blood thinner. I was on Atorvastatin for cholesterol but that crap made me so ill I could barely function - another motivating factor to get fit. Anyway, I made an executive decision and stopped taking the statin. In the meantime, my doc recommended an OTC called Red Yeast Rice (comes in a capsule). Well, it's just my luck that this stuff is known to have some of the same side-effects as statins and sure enough it makes me ill, too. Hopefully, my exercise and adjusted diet of almost no junk will keep the cholesterol down (unless genetics is working against me). smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/25/18 04:49 PM

Welcome to the club, MadDog! cheers

I remember watching an episode of "House Hunters International" about 5 years ago, where a couple somewhere in Norway was looking to purchase a home (I believe around Bergen). Several scenes showed a gathering of people, eating in restaurants or walking around shopping. One scene showed lots of people just walking the downtown streets enjoying the outdoors. I noticed how slim everyone looked, I didn't see anyone who appeared to be overweight (although I didn't have the freeze-frame feature I have today). I would imagine as a larger person (but not *too* large) it's more difficult to fit in where you live, whereas I live in the Deep South US so it's really easy to not stand out.

I don't mean just aesthetically, I mean that my area is catering to a larger person. For example, we've noticed that a couple of local restaurants have rearranged their booths so that when we sit at one, there's now way too much space between the bench and table to get comfortable. The solution is to either sit next to each other and slide the table over to us, or sit at a table with chairs. One of our main concert theaters (Raising Cane's River Center) is about to be gutted and new seating installed, bigger seats with more space between rows, also more aisles. I'm disappointed that they'll be less seating available with the new layout.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/25/18 05:14 PM

EAF you sound like me with your approach. Keep in mind the benefits are already hitting you. I was discouraged at first by just thinking about how long it would take to get where I wanted to be, but the journey itself has been really rewarding with constant benefits and improvements.
One bit of advice that I’d offer for your workout: find an abdominal machine and hit it every time you go in. Abs recover fast. The one I use looks like a seat with a push bar for doing comfortable sit ups. Don’t over do it with the weight, just get started. You tone up quickly, pulling everything in and you see a major change in your waist. It’s like a shortcut to looking and feeling good about weight loss and it isn’t hard.

Letterboy, I bet you can beat the cholesterol with diet and exercise, but I hear ya on body chemistry just being different fo people. I hear cholesterol can even go up sometimes as you convert fat as it enters your bloodstream. It still works out though. IMO just avoiding anything in a wrapper makes a big difference.
I wonder if the headphones I use would work for you on your rides? They fit close and work by bone conduction instead of going on or in your ears, which works really well. Check out the Aftershokz, they have both wired and wireless.
amazon link
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/27/18 08:16 PM

We've just about made up our minds to buy this sub-$200.00 bench (or one very similar that's sold in stores) after looking at them yesterday at Academy...

[Linked Image]

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/golds-gym-xrs-20-multistation-weight-bench#repChildCatid=1254320

What I like most about it is that it's a 2-piece, the bench is detached from the holder/squat station, taking less space when the bench isn't being used for bench presses. Even the leg apparatus is sooo much smoother and sturdier than what we have now, with twice the capacity. I think as soon as we back from NYC we'll do this upgrade, along with the classic iron weight restoration, which still may require rearranging the room a little.

My father has pretty much worn out my speedbag (he beats on it almost daily...sometimes I hear "da da da, da da da, da da da"... for 10-15 minutes non-stop). At the very least I need to replace the plastic swivel with a heavy-duty metal one. I figured this junk wouldn't last, I just needed to know that we'd really use it before opting for a more expensive setup.

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/27/18 09:37 PM

My son had a set from Academy. If we hadn’t thrown it out recently you could’ve picked it up on your way home. It was a nice set, and inexpensive, but he prefers his gym so it went unused.
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/28/18 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
One bit of advice that I’d offer for your workout: find an abdominal machine and hit it every time you go in. Abs recover fast. The one I use looks like a seat with a push bar for doing comfortable sit ups. Don’t over do it with the weight, just get started. You tone up quickly, pulling everything in and you see a major change in your waist. It’s like a shortcut to looking and feeling good about weight loss and it isn’t hard.


Thanks, I tried it out today. Need to figure out what weight setting to use it on.

I did 2x25 with the lightest load, and 2 times 2x25 at 30kgs. At the end of each second set started to feel it a bit in my abs so I think I might increase it one level and use that for a while.
Posted By: schro777

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/28/18 06:15 PM

I totally agree with you on the ab workouts! I started working out again this past month and have been making sure I get some crunches and planks in during every workout. Even though I haven't lost any weight yet, I have seen a huge improvement in the way my body looks. It really does feel good to see some more instant results because losing weight can be such a challenge, but I'd say toning is almost more important to a workout routine because thats where you'll see most of your results
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/28/18 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
My son had a set from Academy. If we hadn’t thrown it out recently you could’ve picked it up on your way home. It was a nice set, and inexpensive, but he prefers his gym so it went unused.


That's ok, wouldn't fit anyway. We noticed that Costco Executive (also w/VISA points) is cheaper than AAA for comparable rentals, except that Costco favors the smaller Jetta over the bigger Maxima, so we're taking a Jetta instead (although that could change). Thanks, though. Also, we're going through Atlanta now on the way home, might try to do the USS Alabama (Mobile) then, instead of on the way to Pensacola in August.
Posted By: letterboy1

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 02/28/18 11:15 PM

@Raw Kryptonite, thanks for that link. I never even knew such a thing existed. Shame on me, I'm supposed to be a tech nerd. biggrin

Anyway, I will have to include those in my consideration if I scrape together enough cash to get some phones.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/01/18 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog
Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
One bit of advice that I’d offer for your workout: find an abdominal machine and hit it every time you go in. Abs recover fast. The one I use looks like a seat with a push bar for doing comfortable sit ups. Don’t over do it with the weight, just get started. You tone up quickly, pulling everything in and you see a major change in your waist. It’s like a shortcut to looking and feeling good about weight loss and it isn’t hard.


Thanks, I tried it out today. Need to figure out what weight setting to use it on.

I did 2x25 with the lightest load, and 2 times 2x25 at 30kgs. At the end of each second set started to feel it a bit in my abs so I think I might increase it one level and use that for a while.



Great! I do roughly 3 sets of 10, but I go to failure on that last set, and try to hold in place at the apex as long as possible on the very last rep. That last squeeze to failure is a great way to finish anything.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/01/18 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by letterboy1
@Raw Kryptonite, thanks for that link. I never even knew such a thing existed. Shame on me, I'm supposed to be a tech nerd. biggrin

Anyway, I will have to include those in my consideration if I scrape together enough cash to get some phones.


Check them out when you can. I’ve also read about some people with hearing problems due to eardrum issues loving these things as a game changer.
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/01/18 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
I wonder if the headphones I use would work for you on your rides? They fit close and work by bone conduction instead of going on or in your ears, which works really well. Check out the Aftershokz, they have both wired and wireless.
amazon link


I have a set of Aftershokz and I love them. I probably have a dozen sets of headphones/earbuds etc. and these are one of my favorites. They aren't quite up to the level of some of my Senn's but I never expected that. However, they do have incredible sound and (unless I have them cranked) I can still hear what is going on around me. Add a set of earplugs, when you don't need to hear the rest of the world, and you will be stunned.


Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/03/18 11:14 AM

Yo, dudes. Small update...

It's 4:30AM and I woke up on my own this Saturday morning, a half an hour earlier than I had planned. We'll be leaving at 6:30 for a 5k in downtown Baton Rouge, then to explore on foot more of the downtown area, things we missed the day we went exploring in Sept. 2016. Then we're off to LSU, walking the campus and attending a giant book fair. This evening we pull out the clothes containers to see where we're at (I'm feeling really good about this one).

Also, I'm totally maxing out the capacity of my weight set now (both barbell and bench), also my dumbbells on some exercises. But those upgrades will have to wait until we get back from NYC.

Right now I'm just feeling overwhelmed by how much we have going on...less than two weeks to OK/MO to walk the Prairie towns of Pawhuska and Mansfield, then NYC a couple weeks later (and we've already decided, for the second time, that we'll probably add an extra night in Manhattan [10 nights]).

I have one vice left that I've never really got a handle on, and that's spending too much time online, time that I no longer have. And it's not so much SimHQ (my only participation), it's mainly YouTube. I've become a YT addict (damn my satellite ISP for improving so much the last couple of years, and becoming cheaper to boot)! If I don't go cold turkey (handing over the laptop, using only for important stuff with supervision), at least until I get back from NYC, I chance really screwing up and I can't allow that to happen. It feels like I'm on the last leg of a race I've run for a long time, the upcoming months (ending with a beach vacation) will be like finally crossing the finish line.

So with this "Post Reply", I'm disappearing for a while (it's 5AM, time to wake her up, hand it over with a cup of coffee and quick explanation...done it before) and I'll be back with hopefully some very cool vacation AARs.

Man, I've never been so excited in my life, see you all soon and keep up the progress! wave
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/03/18 04:31 PM

No worries! I think most of us could cut back. A vacation is the perfect time.
I love a good youtube channel. I accumulated too many I like to keep up with daily, so I decided to get picky about what's worth my time and just skip over a lot now. Most are interest based, so as my interests change, I skip over the ones not currently relevant.
Enjoy the trips and time with the wife! You've definitely earned it.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/05/18 04:44 PM

You guys been busy with this thread biggrin

Minor update on myself: Got about ten more days here in Singapore and the Hotel Gym has a really nice weight machine.

I might have to reconsider joining a Gym at home. It does make a world of difference when you can go so specifically for certain muscles. Trying to put in half an hour daily...
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/05/18 11:45 PM

Way to go! I like the machines that eliminate the guesswork. I know there’s more you can do with free weights and cable machines, but I like having most of what I do very straightforward. Keep it up! How is your mood? It’s been life changing for me.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/06/18 02:28 AM

I've only just started, but it's interesting that on my first day here I was able to get up in the morning, workout, have a shower... instead of my usual "turn over 20 times before getting up tired" routine at home...

Training in my own apartment has advantages for sure, but I waste a lot of energy there on inefficient movements, like for example when I can't get my legs perfectly fixed for situps.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/06/18 03:21 PM

I like the ritual of going to workout instead of doing it at home with bands, like when I started. No distractions, my phone is on do not disturb and it feels good to relocate.
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/17/18 10:07 PM

Hit 107,6kg on friday morning, was nice to see biggrin

Also met my mom for dinner that day and it was nice to surprise her. She noticed immediately and asked where the rest of me were biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/18 03:45 PM

"I just need the laptop for a day (Monday) to post about the trip while it's still fresh in my memory."

4 days later...

biggrin

But hey, I'm staying off YT, the main culprit. I'll probably hand it over this evening before I relapse.

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The 5k in downtown Baton Rouge on March 3rd was awesome (our first downtown 5k, usually at LSU)! We saw parts of the city we wouldn't dare walk by ourselves, the roads were closed to traffic with a policeman at every intersection (in cars, on motorcycles and horses). The starting/finishing area by the capital is beautiful and park-like.

Only in the bayou do you walk/run a 5k and then after crossing the finish line, stuff yourself silly with jambalaya (rice or pasta) and pastries while listening to live 80's Rock! biggrin There were 5 tickets on our numbered bibs, each one got you small bowl of jambalaya or desert, choosing from various booths (you can vote on your favorite). We think the BR Firemen won the jambalaya contest, but it was all good!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/22/18 06:28 PM

Just received a rare text message on my flip phone (pic below)...

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They're trying to move the Baton Rouge Zoo to the other side of town (we're not too far from it), lots of arguments and politics in the newspaper about it. We're going to renew our annual passes on Saturday if just to show there's at least two other people that prefer for it to stay right where it is, maybe walk it if it's a nice day.

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/23/18 11:34 AM

So, just bought a curl bar. I noticed at the hotel gym in SGP that this is an easy way for the biceps.

I could also do bench presses with it, wondering how to improvise a safe way without a weight bench. Looking at 40kgs top to press.

Mark, what do you bench press/reps?
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/23/18 02:29 PM

Curl bars are great, much more comfortable than doing curls with a barbell.

My bench numbers depend on consistency, and right now with so much going on (mainly back-to-back road trips) I'm not doing so well. At my best I can bench 130 lbs. [60 kg] (including 10 lbs. bar), 3 sets of 10. Even when I'm staying consistent, if I'm not feeling it that evening, my wife might have to help me with the last 2 or 3 reps on the 3rd set. I've never progressed passed this weight, not even possible as I'm maxing out the capacity of my bar and bench (I've tried a little more weight before and it's kinda scary).

Right now I'm being "lazy" and inconsistent (skipping workouts), pressing 120 lbs. (54.4 kg) 2 sets of 10. However, I am working on form and speed, trying to do each set as slowly as possible, adding to difficulty. Also, I don't want to chance hurting myself before NYC next month, the biggest vacation we've ever taken (years in the planning). I'm also not running at all on pavement right now, only brisk walking, with a little running on the treadmill when the mood hits me.

When we get back into full swing after NYC, I'll post our actual clipboard progress charts (like the blank ones I show in an earlier pic).

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One thing you might consider is a smaller utility/multi-bench like the gray one you see in my previous pic a page or two back (at the head of my full bench). Also, look at the posters I show, the second one came with that bench. You can do almost any of the exercises with dumbbells as you can with a barbell, and you don't need a full bench.

Sometimes when my wife goes first (we rotate, since the weights are setup for whoever went last) I don't feel like swapping out weights on the curl bar and instead I grab a couple of dumbbells to do my curls, mixing it up a little. That's what my charts are about, not just keeping up with weights, but making sure we mix it up for each major muscle group.
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/23/18 08:31 PM

I need new pants!

I've been traveling a lot for work lately, and decided I need to go pants-shopping. When I remove my belt for the security check they fall off now! Eeek!

First World Problem biggrin
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/23/18 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog
I need new pants!

I've been traveling a lot for work lately, and decided I need to go pants-shopping. When I remove my belt for the security check they fall off now! Eeek!

First World Problem biggrin



Order myself a pair of these today, no belt needed!

https://www.amazon.com/Dickies-Mens-Denim-Bib-Overall/dp/B075JTWKK8
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/24/18 04:06 AM

Nothing like forfeiting your favorite pair of jeans when they become too big at the waist and bunch up under your belt!

My 80's-ness is showing, but I find overalls can be quite sexy (females only, though wink )...

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Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/24/18 06:53 AM

Well, I'm here to report:

From: waist size 48
To: waist size 38

Shirt size from: 3XL
Shirt size to: L

I've got about 15 more pounds to go.

Before

[Linked Image]

I'm the one on the right.

After

[Linked Image]
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/24/18 06:04 PM

Hey Mark,

60kg for three sets of ten is pretty nice, I'm far away from that.

So, I just bought a weight bench with situp leg bar. That's gonna fit nicely into the same space as the crosstrainer and the weights, so then I'll have my small fitness-corner and no more abusing the living room couch as a stand-in.

Need to check how much weight is safe to have on the curl bar when I use it for bench pressing as I have no spotter. Currently starting with about 30kg, which I figure is okay as I can always drop one side of the bar to the floor if I can't hold it.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/24/18 08:05 PM

Great work Ghost!

RS, why not use dumbbells instead? Safer that way with no spotter and you can come a little further back without a bar hitting your chest.
I think I saw something about that on a really good youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/user/JDCav24/featured
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/24/18 09:36 PM

Kryp, yes that would be an option. I like the ease of taking up and putting down a single bar better, however I notice that my curl weight and press weight is anyway too different. Gonna get some rubber mats to protect the hardwood floor, then figure out how many kilos I need per hand...
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/25/18 04:44 AM

Ghost shrinking his waist by 10"...major kudos! cheers

RS, I've been casually lifting weights for years now. At your age and fitness level, you'll pass me up in no time! smile

Yeah, it's nice to have a spotter, but a woman can never be 'one of the guys,' at least not in my case. I remember in early high school, the kid across the street would come over and we'd work out on my father's bench (similar abilities). We knew how to spot each other, using only our pinkies to assist and only when we had too, making sure the lifter was still giving everything they had, while trash talking them the entire time. biggrin My wife gets too concerned when I'm struggling, like I'm going to drop the weights on myself, and is too quick to grab the bar and pull up on it. Even if I was by myself and couldn't get the bar back up, it's not like 130 lbs. (60 kg) is going to seriously hurt me, I can roll it off my chest if I had to. And forget about trash talking, no giving or receiving, nothing more than polite encouragement when what I really need sometimes is R. Lee Ermey screaming in my face! biggrin

But I do have a spotter at least, as well as a dedicated workout partner (taking turns being the motivator), and at my age it's probably best that I don't push too hard. Plus she agrees that AC/DC's "Back in Black" is excellent workout music (that album goes back a long ways with us).
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/25/18 07:59 AM

LOL Mark, I get the difference.
Do you really think 60kg wouldn't cause some damage?

Checked with a scale yesterday and during pushups I have 59kg pressure on my hands.

That's double of what I have in weights now. I just hate the fact that so much energy there goes into abs and other muscles, so I hope the bench gives me better focus on chest.
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/25/18 02:48 PM

Did a 15km walk yesterday, 20km today. smile

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/25/18 04:42 PM

Progress for me slowed again lately. Still at the gym 6 days, sometimes 5 if life interferes, so I blame my diet. Looking back at my app, I think I’ve taken too many liberties, although I’ve never been bad. Enough to halt progress though.
So, decided to give intermitent fasting a go to get moving again. 16 hours not eating, all calorie intake over 8 hours, 11-7. Nothing crazy, I think the magic is in simplifying things to cut out those little insulin spiking bits through the day. Lots of water and black coffee, those are fine. Eat smart for meals and snacks during the 8 hours.
3.5 lbs lost this week, I’m back on track! That’s even after my cheat meal the day before—- a massive cheeseburger, fries and shake. Had to properly test a new place. LOL
I may do this 8/16 another week and then drop a couple of hours more from the eating time. I know some do 4/20 but I doubt those workout too for weight loss. The test will be seeing similar results this week. All I ask for is 1.5-2 lbs/week and I’m happy.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/26/18 08:04 AM

Wow Kryp, that sounds harsh. How many kcal do you take during those eight hours?
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/26/18 03:07 PM

Same as usual, a little under 1700 calories, except for my cheat meal day, but that's still not more than 2000 on that day.
It isn't that hard, you're asleep for the most part anyway. Just means putting off breakfast, which is something I miss, but for the bulk of the day it's pretty normal.
Surely I won't lose that much again, but then I don't know why I would've lost more water weight than usual since nothing has changed other than timing of meals.
I think I just needed something to shake things up a bit to get the ball rolling again. I think your body gets used to things after a while.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/26/18 05:41 PM

I try to stick with 1600 when dieting (sitting job, really hard to burn off unless I do excessive sports) but I'm impressed when you do 1700 and daily Gym. That really should drop pounds quickly.

How long have you been doing that diet? I found that after a month or latest two, the body will adapt. Best results for me where doing 2000/1200 days or so, so basically half/half. Seemed to me the body wouldn't throttle down.

Check out reverse dieting also if the term isn't familiar to you already.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/26/18 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
Do you really think 60kg wouldn't cause some damage?.


Maybe if I just let the bar go and dropped it on my head! biggrin

I'm not saying it would be comfortable but nah, I think I could get 130 lbs. (~60kg) off of me without injury. I wouldn't try much more than that though (like what Timothy probably works out with). You have me curious to try something during our workout tonight, I'll get back with you on that.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/26/18 06:56 PM

If you make an experiment I'd be grateful biggrin

I can use dumbbells but I'd love to try a single bar also. Doing it all by myself has me worried. I do recon that tilting one side onto the floor should normally be enough to be safe up to let's say 60kg (leaving you with 30 or so to stabilize), but I really don't want to be the newspaper article about the neighbour found four weeks later when the apartment starts to smell bad... :P
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/26/18 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
I try to stick with 1600 when dieting (sitting job, really hard to burn off unless I do excessive sports) but I'm impressed when you do 1700 and daily Gym. That really should drop pounds quickly.

How long have you been doing that diet? I found that after a month or latest two, the body will adapt. Best results for me where doing 2000/1200 days or so, so basically half/half. Seemed to me the body wouldn't throttle down.

Check out reverse dieting also if the term isn't familiar to you already.


I’ve avoided a real “diet” other than watching calories and cutting the junk. As in, no Adkins, sugar busters etc, just eating smart. Started last June, but didn’t know what I was doing. Ate better, but didn’t have many meals worked out. Worked out every other day, but not that effective since I was learning all of this. In Sept, I stepped it up to working out 6 days/wk and cut calories to about 1500. It worked well, but I feel like winter messed with me and I haven’t been as effective. I felt like I needed more calories rather than less so I went up a bit. My average for the week is fine so I don’t kick myself when I go over a few. Getting off of my diuretic precrip affected things a bit. I know my real weight is going down, slowly, but my water weight bounces around a lot. I’m down 56 lbs, but I want my progress to pick up again like it used to be.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/27/18 02:17 AM

RS, I owe you an apology...you were right. smile

With my wife hovering over me and before starting my workout (while at full strength), I lowered the bar to rest on my chest (130 lbs. [~60 kg]). I couldn't do it without continually pushing up, just enough to endure some discomfort, but I couldn't take the full concentrated weight on my chest. Then I tried rolling it past my stomach, while continuing to push up to keep the pressure bearable, but I couldn't do that either. What was I thinking? duh

What I would have to do, I think, would be to push the bar up on one end enough to rest the other end on the ground, then squirm out from beneath the high end. Man, I wouldn't want to have to do this, and even that might be difficult with fatigue (assuming that's why I can't lift the bar back to the holder to begin with). This has been an eye-opener for sure. I normally don't worry about a spotter unless I'm doing more than two sets (getting weak on the third), but I don't think I'll chance any of it again. It's been a long time since I've worked out alone anyway, so if she's away for whatever reason, I'll substitute with dumbbells or another exercise.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/27/18 10:44 AM

Thanks for checking, valuable info - and glad you didn't get squeezed smile

That's what I meant... tilting the bar at an angle so one end does come to rest on the floor might help a bit. Some people advise leaving the locking nut off so you could drop the plates. Rolling it downwards seems a good way to end your love life. So I suppose doing it on my own alone in the apartment is really not clever.

So that's sorted then... dumbells for chest and trizeps, and curls for the biceps where it isn't a risk. Added advantage that I don't need to use the same weight or switch plates.

Or I guess I could get a spotter. Redheaded preferable. biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/27/18 01:30 PM

My reading comprehension sometimes... duh Yeah, dropping the bar like you were saying is exactly what I was referring to, seems like the only option. In my case, the bar collar is a screw type, leaving if off might not work as vinyl weights don't slide smoothly off the bar but get hung up on the bar threads, requiring a really steep angle to get them off.

The rest sounds like a good plan.

Redhead, eh? Then between sets you get to watch her tight lean muscles, glistening with sweat in her cute little gym outfit, working themselves to exhaustion. That's when you're happy she's *not* 'one of the guys!' biggrin
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/27/18 02:14 PM

Ah stop it, I'm getting an appetite here...
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/27/18 03:22 PM

That's concentrated motivation! wink

On a less sexy note...

My older sister (by 7 years) is having back troubles again. My mom (late-70's) has had several major back surgeries over the years and is putting off the next one as long as possible. My father and older brother (by 5 years) have never had back troubles so I'm keeping my fingers crossed while trying to be pro-active about it.

My wife has always had slight scoliosis, not the typical front-on "S" shape but more of a twist in her spine that you can only see on x-rays. I've noticed that when she's standing rigid and doing curls, that the bottom of her ribcage on one side pokes out just a touch more than the other, due to her spinal twist. These defects don't improve with age of course, but she feels ever since she's become consistent with workouts (alternating evenings with yoga) that her back feels much better, going days at a time without bothering her, plus she sleeps better.

I've had what I consider to be normal back aches and pains for my age, but the yoga stretching really seems to be helping me and I'm definitely sleeping better since I've started doing yoga (DDP). Before each weights workout we go through a quick DDP "touchdown/diamond cutter" as part of our stretch routine, I've never heard so much popping and cracking. biggrin The thing with the hands and finger stretching (I show some pages back) has helped my Carpal Tunnel big time, also with what I felt was possibly arthritis setting in.

On our way home from NYC, we're going to try to attend a DDP Yoga class at his studio in Atlanta. It'd be kinda cool if he's the instructor that day (doubtful).
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/27/18 09:31 PM

Have you tried physical therapy? An orthopedist can diagnose you and refer you.
I thought I had a back issue developing, but no prescrips helped. Turned out to be my hip, not my lower back. I remember before that not sleeping well and had a tendency to sit up in my sleep, slightly awake, then falling asleep again. That time I fell out of bed LOL. Landed sitting up, but down on my right hipbone first, pretty sure that caused it.
The problem is around the cartilage where the hip joins your spine. Went to physical therapy and a few exercises later it was fine. I still have to do them from time to time, but it’s not bad and never remotely to the point I can’t get out of bed like before. I lived with that crap for a year before finally addressing it. Apparently it’s pretty common.
PT can do some amazing things. I also use a TENS device sometimes. They’re cheap and also good for sore muscles.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/28/18 02:19 PM

RK, my back aches are an occasional roaming soreness, never feeling bad enough to see a specialist. I tell my GP about it during physicals while he does a general pressure check of my torso. But the stretching and yoga have me feeling good now, I go days not thinking about it and even sleeping on my sides instead of just my back. I can also sleep on my stomach again, neck twisting to either side without discomfort.

Now I'm wondering how well I would do in a game of Twister (Milton Bradley - 1966)? biggrin
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/30/18 04:01 PM

Crap, I'm a wussy.

Finished setting up the home studio now, and tried to benchpress my dumbells (17kg per Hand).

I can press them, but I can't get them off the floor when on my back on the bench biggrin
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 03/30/18 07:10 PM

LOL
It’s the unexpected workout that really gets you!
Go lighter but slower on your reps with a squeeze at the top. I’m learning there’s a lot of benefit to lighter but getting more out of your reps.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/02/18 02:30 PM

Yesterday we did our last clothes container check before the trip, a little disappointed but not too much. I'm not comfortable enough in my 34s yet (realizing now that 32"W was never a possibility), she feels the same way about her 2s, sticking with 4s and even some baggy 6s to dress in layers (thermals under jeans) as it's going to be pretty chilly and rainy in NYC. So the clothes situation didn't turn out how we wanted for the trip (preferring lighter smaller Spring/Summer wear) but at least we both have closets growing with nicer clothes as we get into them. As long as we're in our final containers by July/August beach vacations, what we're shooting for.

I've had to quit doing any running on the treadmill (brisk walking only, 10 - 12 miles/day) due to dizziness, and I know why as I've been there before (and it's good news). I'm going to see my GP as soon as we back, fingers crossed that I'll be taken completely off BP meds this time (already reduced). With my next physical in August, for the first time I want every number (BP and blood work) to be in the normal range without being on any medication. Just once, before I get any older. Wife is trying for the same (not on any meds but iffy cholesterol).

Good news...they're not moving the Baton Rouge Zoo (relatively close to us) and we're going to make it a regular habit using our annual passes when we return, just a great place to get in some walking. In fact, the city is going to expand it into the adjacent city park, making more walking paths and adding horseback trails. That's going to be cool.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/02/18 04:29 PM

Yeah, the dizzy/ight headed could mean it's time to drop the BP meds! Or you might be dehydrated...or both. That was my case.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/02/18 10:55 PM

My BP at the dentist 12 days ago was a record low for me (I think) at 126/83. Only regular cleaning and checkup, but just sitting in "the chair" always get my heart to racing!

I drink plenty of water as well, keeping a big plastic mug filled with ice water and freshly squeezed lemon slices (nothing else). I buy very large-sized bags of lemons from Costco, seldom do any go bad with age.

I was thinking the other day, I'm doing very well with not drinking my calories...

- Haven't had alcohol since the end of December (standard 3-shot concert date night...next one will be in a Jazz club, NYC [1 drink min.]).
- Stopped drinking orange juice for breakfast, plain black coffee instead (with a little cream/sugar if away, small milk on Sundays with pancakes...splurge day).
- Don't remember the last time I had a soda, even with a rare splurge of fried seafood or pizza.

So I'm doing pretty good with drinking enough water every day. Now that I think about it, I don't remember the last time I had a pimple on my face, and I used to get them all the time. smile
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/03/18 12:53 AM

I hear ya! No soft drinks at all, we just get my daughter a Dr Pepper on the weekend and I have a little sweet tea. I didn’t think I could cut back the tea, but once you get used to water, it becomes what you crave. I use a sport bottle with a wide mouth and I buy ice bags for the softer ice to crunch on with it. I don’t drink anymore either. Had some wine last summer on vacation, then our anniversary in Oct. Eh, that’s fine. Just not interested.
I went to black coffee too. Didn’t fit with the interrmitent fasting and I can drop 3-4 tspn of sugar a day. The Commity praline pecan is just fine without it.

What are you eating lately?
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/03/18 10:13 AM

Did some calcs. I need to drop three kilos of fat and add one kilo of muscles, that would bring me into the 12% bodyfat range. Seems doable until proper summer.

I'm seriously shocked how much stamina and muscles I lost last year for not training properly. My performance on the crosstrainer is 2/3s of what I was regularly and easily able to do, and the weights maybe half. I did avoid fatting up but obviously beneath the surface a lot of room for improvement...

The good thing is that with the new weight bench, additional of a tablet/TV app for the crosstrainer and stuff, it should be fun to work out two or three times a week now.

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/03/18 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
I hear ya! No soft drinks at all, we just get my daughter a Dr Pepper on the weekend and I have a little sweet tea. I didn’t think I could cut back the tea, but once you get used to water, it becomes what you crave. I use a sport bottle with a wide mouth and I buy ice bags for the softer ice to crunch on with it. I don’t drink anymore either. Had some wine last summer on vacation, then our anniversary in Oct. Eh, that’s fine. Just not interested.
I went to black coffee too. Didn’t fit with the interrmitent fasting and I can drop 3-4 tspn of sugar a day. The Commity praline pecan is just fine without it.

What are you eating lately?


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Seriously, as much seafood as we can afford.

Two nights ago I took a pic of marinated shrimp salads we made to take next door to my parents for dinner...

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Spinach, tomatoes, British cucumbers, avocado, mushrooms, artichoke hearts, whole grain pasta, boiled egg, the usual (ran out of black olives). We'll have a salad of some sort (usually shrimp or grilled chicken), or baked/sautéd fish on a good evening, otherwise it's Greek yogurt/cottage cheese with kiwi, strawberries, blueberries, granola or slivered almonds, again the same ol' that I've posted for years now. On page 1 of this thread (Dec. 2015) I show a pic of the inside of my fridge, not much has changed.

I've become addicted to Costco sardines (and pitted dates), unlike any other I've ever eaten. I just love them and usually what I have for lunch...

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/03/18 09:53 PM

Mark, put away the perverted pics biggrin

Great, I just kinda pulled my left shoulder trying to pick up the dumbbells from the floor while laying flat on the new bench. The joys of designing your own workout at home...
Feels like that's the end of chest/arm training this week.

Figure I need to grab a pair of stepstools or beer crates or whatever fits to have the weights ready at or near my waist as I lay down.

Edit: I suppose this is how to properly do it... but that requires dumbbells that are flat on the end (mine have the bar coming out a few inches from the last plate which isn't pleasant to put on your knee) and a heavy duty bench on which you can confidently roll backwards...



Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/03/18 10:21 PM

I should have mentioned, I actually am eating mussels, clams, octopus and oysters, but usually from a can so they don't look nearly as delicious as those pics. It's been a while since we've purchased the fresh stuff, usually to make a seafood pot with crab boil or a gumbo. readytoeat

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Dude, that sucks! frown Are you stretching first? Very very important. I'll try to describe some of what we do before we touch the weights...

1. Place your hand on your opposite shoulder, arm in front of your neck, then reach your hand back as far as you can on your shoulder blade. With your free hand, grab your elbow (or use your wrist) in front of your face and push it towards your neck as far as you can. Hold for a few seconds, then repeat with other arm.

2. Repeat #1, but this time bring your arm behind your neck, hand on opposite shoulder blade. With your free hand, reach behind your head to grab your elbow, then pull it back as far as you can. Hold for a few seconds, then repeat with other arm.

3. Hug yourself, walking your fingers along your shoulder blades as far as you can and hold. Switch arm position (one on top of the other) and repeat.

4. Stand up straight, one hand on hip, the other arm extended upwards and curled over your head, then reach as far as you can in the direction your hand is pointing. Hold for a few seconds, then repeat with other arm.

Then we do some leg stretches, but I think upper body is far more important and easier to injure.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 08:01 AM

I admit I never stretch, mostly because I'm a lazy #%&*$# but also because from various sources that disagree with each other it doesn't seem clear to me to be useful for weight training...

In the end, it was biomechanically a boneheaded move. Outstretched arm, behind the back (at the edge of it's travel) providing a lot of leverage on the weight, all hitting the muscle in the shoulder.

Thankfully it didn't swell up over night, I'm cautiously optimistic that I just overstretched the muscle and didn't tear anything. I'm getting to appreciate what a complex mechanism the shoulder is...

The more I experiment around the more I understand what a clever little exercise the classic pushup is. Problem being that my Abs usually give way before my chest when doing them.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 01:18 PM

Well, that's what I get for relying on 30+ year old books on weightlifting that I picked up from a Goodwill! smile

I see what you mean RS, of the 4 YT videos I've watched this morning (plus 3 webpages), it seems that static stretching (like I described) is considered bad *prior* to lifting, instead it's suggested that you do dynamic stretching (movement) before and then static *after* you workout. One guy feels the current thinking of not doing pre-workout static stretching is bogus (any power loss being inconsequential) and another thinks static stretching cold muscles is bad *all* of the time (the counter-argument being the benefits of yoga).

I didn't realize that stretching (type and timing) was so controversial, I'm going to look deeper into it.

Glad you seem to be ok. In NYC, if we have enough space in our room, we're going to do a daily basic workout (pushups, situps, 0-weight squats) and yoga routine.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 01:45 PM

Looked up some info about stretching/warmup and the consensus seems to be that a warmup is a good idea for weight exercises, but stretching comes afterwards.

For NYC or any other travel exercise, I can recommend some "Thera-Bands" or similar rubber expander stuff. Easier to take with you than the weight bench, and not quite as stupid as it might seem at first.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 03:53 PM

IMO, either stretch or warm up. For my cardio, I stretch my legs. It makes a huge difference and I ease into it for a minute before ramping up the speed.
After that, I"ve already got my blood moving so I don't worry about it. If going into the weights cold, I'd at least do a set with much lighter weights first.
I've torn my bicep before and I don't plan to do it again. Stretch or warm up.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 04:59 PM

I've been absent for a while and here's why. I put most of the weight back on in 2017 that I lost in 2016 and I just didn't have the will-power to control it. Plus I wasn't cycling after that rather unfortunate spill early 2017.

However I've just been to see the nurse to have my 'well man' check-up and my BP is up (140/100) so I need to work on that. I'm waiting for blood results for cholesterol/diabetes but I am really going to have to exercise more and control the diet again. I'm so annoyed with myself frown
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 05:38 PM

That's a waste of time, being down on yourself. We've all been there. Stay positive, just get back to it. You did it once, you can do it again. Probably easier since you know how to do it better now. Set short term goals to hit, don't worry about the finish line.
IMO, join a gym and get on a stationary bike there. Put on some headphones, listen to music, watch a movie or get some audio books (that's my thing) and go to it. On the road, you have to be mindful of drivers, the road etc. You can unplug your brain more in the gym and it's safe. Also, there's no downhill coasting on a stationary--it's ALL exercise. Personally, I do the recumbent bike since it's comfortable and works a couple more muscles. Find one that shows your heart rate. Start light, build up your time, then base your level on your heart rate as you ease into your ideal heart rate. IIRC, that's 220 minus your age (max heart rate)...75-80% of that is where you want to be for your exercise to burn fat.
Give the intermittent fasting a chance. It's effective and not hard to keep up with. A good app/website for tracking calories and macros is enlightening. Don't guess about what you're taking in or you can wreck all of your efforts.
You can get that BP down, as well as cholesterol and blood sugar in no time. The rest will come. The sooner you start, the sooner you start hitting goals! Get the endorphins going, it works.

Find some new favorite foods that work for you. You don't have to go cold turkey, just start limiting how often you eat the favorite stuff. Have a cheat meal every week...not a cheat "day" though. You'll find you enjoy it a LOT more, so in the end you're still happy and have something to look forward to.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 07:23 PM

Chucky, I remember your spill well. I was on the fence at the time about getting bicycles again (we used to tote bikes to Callaway Gardens when we lived in Atlanta), but your story took me off the fence about it.

Dude, I've fallen off that horse so many times since 2009! I feel like I'm perpetually saying, "Ok, it's time to get serious with it again!" or "Alright, let's make this a new start!" Then there's, "We'll start fresh again tomorrow!" Over and over and over, always getting started but never finishing. smile

Ever wonder why I post lots of pics but seldom full body shots of myself (other than my wife not thinking about taking one)? Because I continue to back slide and have never completely recovered. I'd gotten down to 180 lbs. (179.8 on a cruise ship gym digital scale), lowest I remember in 30 years with maybe only 15 or 20 lbs. to go. And then I blew it on the last freaking full day of the cruise (a sea day), just a couple of hours apart as my wife was taking a cooking class while I headed poolside in the middle of dessert sampling and binge-sampled everything! I got extremely down about it, thinking how could I have kept my weight steady on a 5-day (IIRC) cruise and then on the last day, lose all self-control? Stupid, stupid, stupid! duh

Now I struggle to stay under 200 lbs. which at 5'-9" (175.3 cm), is just under technical obesity, meaning no *real* progress in almost 10 years (other than keeping off the bulk of my weight loss and gaining some muscle). So I'm still ~40 lbs. (~18 kg) over what I probably should be and can't seem to budge from it. It was my becoming so down about it that killed me, one really bad day shouldn't have sabotaged my efforts, but I let it happen.

What has saved me from further damage is that I have an awesome support system with my wife and parents (who now live on our property), as they're trying to live the same healthy lifestyle (father is mild diabetic, never wants to deal with the syringe). Also, although so very short lived, I remember just how great it felt to be at my best (to that point), springing out of bed in the morning so light on my feet. And yes, also other times in the 'bedroom' (oh man, weight/fitness for an aging male makes such a difference)! yep

A big personal motivation is that my wife, after 30 years, has never given up on me and now won't let me give up on myself. How to motivate me to get my keaster up and out of my comfortable office chair and do some exercising? Occasionally it has to be extreme, like putting on a sexy "AC/DC High Voltage" workout shirt, cranking up track 1 "Hells Bells" on the stereo and saying to me, "Let's Rock!" biggrin And I have my own motivational ways when necessary, just as silly and effective. Still, the biggest motivation is remembering how it was for that short time when you were at your best, and how it will probably be even better as you surpass your previous success. I have a hard time feeling like I'm always backtracking. I just have to get over it and get on with it.

If I didn't have a partner I'd maybe try to find one, a friend or family member maybe, someone supportive to workout with and exchange ideas and accomplishments. I dunno, if I were by myself, maybe I'd reach deep and find that motivation within myself. What an accomplishment that would be! Just forget about all the previous false starts, those were just warm-ups. smile Your next start is the one that's going to take you the distance dude!

Never gets old...

Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 07:37 PM

Thanks guys. I jumped at the chance of the 'well man clinic' because I knew the nurse would 'motivate' me,as they had done in 2016.

All I can do is start again and stay positive smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 08:19 PM

Kick some ass, Chucky! attack

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I'm outta here for a while, gotta start packing, cleaning up and then get the rental car (I wouldn't mind another Nissan Rogue).

But first, a couple more healthy foodie pics.

As with Oklahoma/Missouri, I made several trail mix bags (12), each packing quite a calorie punch. Mainly for the road, shouldn't need extra calories in the middle of Manhattan (what cart vendors are for)... smile

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Calorie count (each bag has one serving of each, except prunes)...
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Cashews: 160
Almonds: 170
Craisins: 130
Pumpkin Seeds: 180
2 Prunes: 40

680 cal. per bag

x12 = 8,160 cal.


Lunch was Costco rotisserie chicken (BBQ sauce is non-HFCS) and sautéd mushrooms with garlic and sliced almonds (stuff that needed to be eaten before the trip)...

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I eat healthy enough but I still eat too much, and this isn't going to change over the next couple of weeks. I give up, as soon as I get back home I'm counting calories.

Later. wave

Good luck, Chucky!

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 08:42 PM

Absolutely!
I barely seemed to make any progress over the winter, and slipped back Nov-Jan. It’s disheartening, but you have to keep on, reevaluate, adjust and just remember that even if the weight loss stalls, you’re still getting all kinds of benefits from your efforts. Keep up with the scale but don’t live by it. There are too many factors. If one day made a huge difference, most likely it’s salt and water weight. It’ll come off over time, it doesn’t matter as far as fat and muscle.
All that matters is what you do today. Shame won’t do anything but weigh you down.

Check this out. Everyone knows Chris Pratt was pretty well out of shape and big during Parks and Rec (300 lbs) but got in great shape for Guardians.
I saw this when I started getting serious about all of this and the perspective was helpful.

The significant part starts at 2:41, but what stays in my mind is at 3:46.
Interestingly, it’s been almost 8 months for me since getting dedicated and everything for me is completely different. I still have a way to go, but I couldn’t really picture being where I am last Sept. Time is going to go by regardless of what you decide to do. Time travel is just a matter of perspective. wink

Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/04/18 09:37 PM

Good points, RK.

Bad form, but the wheels were turning after I shut down. One more thing I wanted to mention...

If my weight/size ends up staying about where it is now, on the higher end of overweight (say, no more than about 190 lbs. [86.2 kg.]), it wouldn't be the end of the world, at least not yet. I feel completely healthy in *all* aspects of my life right now, today, but I do fear what aging might eventually do to me if I don't finish getting the weight off. My 30's were terrible overall, turning 40 was a nightmare, 41 was a second chance to enjoy life the way I wanted to (and have for almost a decade). But how long can you take "youth" for granted? I'd rather take nothing for granted and figure out how to finish what I started, which seems twice as hard at 50 than it does at 40 (exaggeration, I know).

Ok, that should be it. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/18/18 01:00 PM

packing to make the drive home. awesome last 3 days, pissing blood and passing [kidney] stones. nyc has good medical care, though.

now know what my insides look like via imaging ultrasound. everything checks out except gallstones, might lose that sucker in the future.

think my diet is good now, you ain’t seen nothing yet! don’t plan on going through this ever again.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/18/18 01:53 PM

That sucks! I’ve had a dozen or so of those since I was 12. It’s miserable. Especially riding in a car. Hope you passed them all. Get rid of that gall stone, it will bring you down too.
Stay hydrated, keep the meds going if you haven’t gotten rid of them all. Find a recipe for choking down some apple cider vinegar. It isn’t easy. LOL
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/18/18 09:09 PM

agree on all counts, rk. so far on the road, feeling better than i have in a long time, just a little drowsy - wife driving. most pain and discomfort i’ve been through...second night/morning i cried uncle...literally. only relief was a scalding hot shower on my back. wife had to help me dress, i couldn’t even walk 3 1/2 blocks to urgent care, hailed a cab.

we were there when they opened at 8, took me straight to the back and gave me a shot, brought immediate relief. felt like i could jump off the table and hit the streets again, incredible difference in seconds.

got a follow up call while writing this post (i’m slow on iphone), doc said what you said- keep taking meds until done. official imaging results are ok, everything sent to my gp, we’ll see about zapping the gallstones next.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/18/18 11:55 PM

Yeah, if you don’t keep at least a little pain meds in your system, if it flares up you often need a shot to get it back under control. Pills are slow and you might not keep anything down. I remember driving myself to the e-room one morning, opening the door throwing up at intersections it was so bad. It will literally put you on the floor when you have a bad one. I’m familiar with the desperation that leads you to hot showers and baths, but it isn’t a muscle pull so it’s just a distraction. Avoid cars when you can, that seems to set it off. Be still. LOL
Phenergan with the pain med helps. Keeps your stomach under control quickly and being a sedative, can calm you down to give it a chance to kick in. Take your flowmax too, I imagine they gave you that as well. Wear warm ups, nothing tight.
I hope this doesn’t go on long, I hate to see anyone dealing with these bastids!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/19/18 02:24 AM

phone lost my post...

anyway, chillin’ in woodstock, va. feeling ok so far.
must be some good stuff i’m on (for 8 more days). smile
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/19/18 06:00 AM

Glad you are making it home OK.

However, I do have to say that you should take a closer look at the stuff you are eating. Those stones came from somewhere and it wasn't the air and water.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/19/18 12:51 PM

correct. kidney stones likely came from *lack* of water, after pushing so hard
previous 7 1/2 days. even with weather, we were killing itinerary [on my nyc thread] until last
2 1/2 days with my problem.

gallstones may or may not have affected me, according to nyc doc. know about
them only because she requested full abdominal scan. but way too much rich and
fatty foods (pics coming) so we think maybe, but two separate issues.

only pain i feel now is typing without a keyboard. smile

p.s. virginia is freaking gorgous.
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/19/18 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
p.s. virginia is freaking gorgous.


Yeah, it is. smile
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/19/18 01:42 PM

Why don't you introduce me to her? biggrin
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/19/18 02:43 PM

come out virginia, don’t make me wait
you catholic girls start much too late
ah, but sooner or later it comes down to fate
i might as well be the one. smile

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I-81 south, nearing roanoke, such beautiful mountains.

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i believe more than anything, i’m paying for my previous lifestyle, suffering the
consequences of not taking care of myself properly. expensive lesson. plan to
return to nyc in december and finish itinerary (missed the met museum and misc.
stuff on upper east and west side). ‘honeymoon’ cut short makes me not so happy camper.

gonna go home now, see my doc, get healthy and kick ass.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/19/18 08:51 PM

carolinas also beautiful. should make it into atlanta by 8 tonight. brother and
wife making grilled shrimp salads, shouldn’t kill me.

despite mileage walked previous week, feeling like i need to hit the weights and yoga.
gonna go real easy on bad fats until gallbladder is fixed (stones are small), maybe
rip that sucker out if i can’t lose the stones. gonna see what my options are.

really didn’t eat too badly in nyc, except two big heavy 3-course meals that put a
hurtin’ on me...more when i post trip aar.

i stopped doing buffets for similar reason, and now anxious to get rid of aches
and pains i’ve been #%&*$# about for each eons now. this should be a great start.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/19/18 09:22 PM

Kidney stones build up over a long period of time. You had it long before you felt it. They hurt when they break loose and move around. Urinating blood mainly comes from the infection.
Some of us just have the body chemistry to be prone to them, but body acidity has something to do with it too, which is why I mentioned the apple cider vinegar. Drinking a lot of water to keep flushed out of course helps.
There are different kinds of stones of course, you'll have to have it checked out if you can catch it to know what kind you've got and IF there's something you can do to prevent more.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/20/18 11:39 AM

beating atlanta morning traffic, heading home. smile wife being a real trooper
doing all the driving. last night first comfortable uninterrupted sleep, except
to pee. much to learn about kidney stones and gallstones, will research when
i get home.

ready to remodel our gym and get truely serious with it. both of us now on a
mission to *completely* get rid of excess belly fat, tight straight abs, keeping our
internals as healthy as possible. just the sight of crap food makes my stomach
wretch, so should be easier now to stay the course.

be nice if i can keep my gallbladder for a bit longer. smile
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/20/18 12:01 PM

Going to sound weird to some here, but I had some "interesting" dreams (not nightmares, a bit more weird) and a few more thoughts... and I'm considering cutting a lot of meat from my diet. I really can't agree with the conditions under which it mostly is "produced" these days, from a ethical point it's crazy and then there's the question of how many hormones, antibiotics and other chemicals we ingest trough it.

Need to find some farmers that have a proper relationship with their cattle, pigs and chickens. My brother in law hunts, that's another option I might extend...
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/20/18 03:00 PM

Nothing wrong with that. I don't have a problem with meat, and haven't intentionally cut it out, but I do find that we eat less and less. Usually fish one night, maybe chicken one night and of course cheat meal night is usually a cheeseburger. Plenty of eggs, but even then I use Egg Beaters...which is also really convenient.
If we ate more beef, I could buy from a local ranch store to get it directly, but we don't eat it much. The chicken in grocery stores is from the area too. Raising chickens is a big thing in MS, or the South in general I guess, due to the hot and humid climate.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/20/18 10:38 PM

I have a keyboard again! dance

Made it home just fine. We're wasting no time getting back to our regular routine, walking the zoo tomorrow morning followed by an abbreviated workout to get restarted (mainly lifting less weight). Not going to push it with either until meds are finished in 6 days. I plan on making *real* progress now, both body and mind. Not farting around with this anymore, no more excuses. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/18 03:54 AM

Those roaming back aches and pains I've been complaining about for years (several times in this thread)...gone!

Could be because I'm on pain meds (along with something that relaxes my tubes to let rocks pass) until Friday, but I'm thinking my NYC incident may be the start of solving a long-time mystery. I have an appointment in two weeks with my GP to discuss the scans he's received from NYC and possibly getting off BP meds.

BTW, my BP in NYC that morning was 144/88, BEFORE they gave me a shot to relieve my discomfort! All things considered that morning, that's not bad.

Also, kidney stones apparently run in my family, my father gets them as does my brother (a recent horror story very similar to RK's story above).

So I should be all cleared up by Friday (which happens to be date night). wink
Posted By: LB4LB

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/18 04:01 AM

Jesus, that sounds rough. I watched my brother go through kidney stones. Scared the hell out of me. With my luck lately, it's probably only a matter of time. I hope you feel better soon. Positive vibes sent your way.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/18 04:15 AM

It’s all progress, but would be nice to be done with it!
The “tubes” med is the Flowmax I mentioned. One of the most appropriate names for a drug, IMO. LOL
The only thing worse than a kidney stone is a stone lodged in a ureter, creating blockage. The pain doubles as your kidney gets backed up, also a dangerous situation. Stay with it the meds!

That does sound positive on the BP. Maybe when this is over you’ll drop a prescrip.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/18 04:28 AM

RK, you're absolutely right, dude! thumbsup

Even says "Flomax" on the bottle in fine print, I didn't catch that (pic below)...

I'm kinda confused as I'm seeing no blood or even discoloration and no more rock pieces, so should this be it? Of course I'll ask these questions on my appointment in two weeks.

EDIT: You also mentioned "Phenergan", which I assume is the little pill she had me put under my tongue for nausea. Yeah, you're experienced at this. smile

Attached picture Pills.jpg
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/18 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by LB4LB
Jesus, that sounds rough. I watched my brother go through kidney stones. Scared the hell out of me. With my luck lately, it's probably only a matter of time. I hope you feel better soon. Positive vibes sent your way.


Thanks, LB4LB. It was the most [constant] pain *I've* ever been in (should have gone in the next day and not try to tough it out a second night), but I know it's nothing compared to what some of you guys have gone through.

I take staying hydrated very seriously now! smile
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/18 07:01 AM

Phenergan can get in you in many ways, some routes better than others! Got it in a shot once because I couldn’t keep anything down and it tore up my veins in my arm. Something about it should’ve been done through an IV with saline or something dilluting it. I had a long bruise for over a month from that. An already bad day made worse! LOL
The blood, clots and color comes from the infection doing damage, so the antibiotics have probably already taken care of that. Doesn’t mean it’s gone, most likely you’ll know when that happens. You’ll know if it moves to your bladder when you get an itching-like pain there. Not as bad but annoying. At that point the worst is over, keep drinking water and “go” as often as possible. Passing it isn’t nearly as bad as the kidney pain, don’t worry about it.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/18 03:36 PM

On initial research, my diet may be too high in protein: sardines, nuts, cottage cheese, etc. Spinach even gets a bad rap for kidney stones and I eat it pretty much every day (raw).

It wasn't that long ago that I start drinking my coffee black (a good thing) but I still might be drinking too much of it (caffeine can be a factor). At least I'm totally off soda now (artificial sweetener a problem), but my soda consumption since 2008 was already minimal, now I make no exceptions.

Man, it's just hard to get the balance right, when even healthy foods can potentially add to the problem. I'm not completely giving up my Costco sardines though, I just won't do a cottage cheese or spinach salad dinner on the same day, nor eggs on avocado and spinach for breakfast.

In NYC, my favorite meal was a Korean seafood soup (even better than the caviar appetizer I had at Russian Tea Room). Never thought I'd be crazy about tofu (homemade)...

[Linked Image]

So I'm thinking about trying a more oriental-like diet, soups and wok stir-fried veggies and seafood, stuff like that. I'm already off salt and chemicals and now I'm really paying attention to how much water I'm drinking.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/24/18 06:21 PM

I wouldn't sweat it. There are different kinds of stones, caused by different things. When I was a kid, they put me on a huge list of things to avoid, mainly relating to calcium. Years later, same kind of stones (calcium oxalate), and they said diet doesn't make a difference, don't worry about avoiding anything in particular. Eat right, drink water. I was told that after lab results enough times that I don't even send the stones off to be analyzed...they're all the same kind, why would I? You should get your analyzed though, it might be one of the other kinds that can indicate other issues.
IMO, I doubt you're getting too much protein. Use a food tracking app and it will show you the balance of carb/protein/fat you take in so you can make adjustments. If your calories are coming 50% carb, 25% protein and 25% fat, you're doing good for a healthy diet from what I've read.
Watch that salt if you get store bought soups and asian food. Those apps can help you track your salt too.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/25/18 02:19 AM

I'll go with that, RK. thumbsup

I'm reading so much conflicting information that I'm not going to worry about it, I'll just keep eating what I believe is a healthy diet (plenty of protein, good fats and complex carbs). All the while drinking plenty of water, I'll just have to get use to having to pee a lot.

My 34"s are still tight while my 36"s are fitting very comfortably now. Most importantly, I've noticed my belly above my waistline (where I carry it) is disappearing, almost back to where I was in 2009. Easy to hide with winter clothing, but beach vacations are fast approaching and all will be revealed. smile
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/25/18 04:44 AM

That's good news, wish I was that far along! Still, I'm down from tightening 46" jeans to 38" now. Pretty comfortable with progress again, and adding more to the weight training each week.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/27/18 04:19 PM

Just took the last of my meds, feel great and ready to go full throttle. Half-ass workouts this week were lame, for both if us, feeling weak and just not into it. But at least we kept it going, if in a minimal way. Today is our off day (sort of wink ), we'll start hitting it hard again tomorrow morning with a 5k walk at LSU (Epilepsy),

16 weeks to Pensacola (to the day), we're going to focus on abs/stomach work now, which goes along with BF%. My feet are feeling great, even after NYC. I'd love to start running for real but I'm not sure how much impact I want to put on my knees and ankles anymore, especially off the cushiony treadmill. That is, I want to be in the best shape possible, but not to the detriment of my health 10 or 20 years from now.

Two weeks after Pensacola I turn 51 (wife 5 weeks later) and we're really wanting to get our 50's off to a good start with all Normal numbers on our blood work.

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Not related to thread...other than some design work and construction I'm doing with my father during the day (fixing wood rot and starting a sunroom), I'm about to put a full effort into self-education as it relates to my F-19 game, including lots of evenings at the library (local and LSU, we enjoy the atmosphere). I have the time and opportunity to make it happen, and with all the support I need (she still has a knack at helping me solve my algebra/trig problems). It's a matter of keeping interest and passion going for the long-haul, and it helps to recreate some 80's college library study nostalgia (but without the football 'study partner' guy...lol).

Part of that nostalgia is frequent Godfather's Pizza after study time, but they no longer exist in the area. Maybe we'll hit the Mellow Mushroom off campus every so often.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/29/18 01:42 PM

Yesterday my wife and I finally went through our NYC pics, deleting duplicates and bad pics, then made a travel map for the AAR I'm writing today.

I asked her what was going to be our next adventure. There's plenty of small towns within driving distance that I wouldn't mind exploring on foot (would also not require a rental). She suggested we try camping and/or hiking, see if we can rough it out in the great outdoors for a few days. Hmm...I like it. I haven't been camping since I was a kid, helping with pitching the tent and enjoying campfires at night. I don't know if those places still exist or what the rules/laws are today with tents and fires, but I'm going to look into it. Going hiking also sounds appealing, maybe driving to Little Rock, AK for a some mountain hiking. I'd love to one day travel to Iceland and cover some of the same ground in Red Storm Rising.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 04/29/18 08:49 PM

Look into the Hot Springs and Fort Smith areas, near Ouachita National Forest and Ozark National Forest. Years ago we went out there, very cool area. The closer to OK the better to get to some mountain overlooks. Very pretty.
Just a thought, you could plan for a big trip to Big Bend in TX in the Fall/Winter. My Dad, uncle and I went out there when I was a kid. Get reservations, you can’t just show up since a lot of areas are off limits.
Camping in TX is miserable in the Summer, I wouldn’t recommend it. LOL
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/07/18 09:08 PM

RK, I like the idea of getting closer to OK, that was a nice drive.

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Saw my GP this morning and somehow I got my wires crossed, what he received from NY was an estimation of a 5-to-6 mm kidney stone, close to a size that could have required surgery. Ouch. I thought I had more than one stone, unless it broke apart in the process (I saw pieces of something).

Like you said RK, kidney stones don't develop overnight. GP said it could have been all the walking (movement) that caused them to drop to lower part of kidney, impossible to tell. He'd like to know if it was a calcium or uric acid stone, guessing the later due to my current eating habits (usually good) but long history of frequent acute gout attacks (although none since 2008, all in my 30's, possibly starting late-20's). So...we just don't know.

About the gallstones...they're small, but just waiting to give me all kinds of hell (even worse and potentially more dangerous than kidney stones). The solution...even healthier eating than I'm already doing. No more cheat days, only occasional cheat bites. No more splitting a plate of fried seafood w/hushpuppies and fries with the Mrs., now just eating an occasional couple of bites of high saturated fat / sugar / salt (not quite satisfying but more than a tease smile ) with roasted veggies (which I really do like) or something else healthy. I can't do the bad stuff anymore at any quantity, my body can no longer handle it.

The good news is that, ever since NYC, I haven't felt tempted to cheat, even with overeating on nuts and cheeses (real cheese) like I'd been doing. I *want* only what's good for me, maybe a mental thing after what I went through (thinking it was gallbladder, and some of it could have been - unlikely coincidence but possible, according to GP).

The gallbladder is now a wait-and-see, the checkout lady gave me a list of symptoms to watch for. Like with other potential old-man...problems, I'm going to take a proactive stance and see how I can eat and live my life to keep this problem from giving me grief before I'm 80 (a nice round number).
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/07/18 09:35 PM

Wait to see if it gives you trouble, or wait and see if doing something can get rid of it? I don't know much about gall stones, but I know it's rough and can make you pretty sick. My brother in law had one removed a couple of years ago, but I didn't hear what the issues were other than hurting a good bit and making him sick.
IMO, cheat "days" are just too much, but nothing wrong with a reasonable cheat "meal". That can even fit in your macros for your diet plan.
Salty fried stuff...yeah probably best avoided. Not easy to do that down here is it?. LOL
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/07/18 09:36 PM

Small update here:

Learned how to pick up dumbells without injuring myself wink but not a lot of weight going on (15kg per hand).

Some other regular exercises using the weight bench, including "rowing" and of course negative situps. Really nice to feel the muscles the next day, meaning I target exactly what I want to improve, without the wasted energy overhead of my "homemade" exercises before. It actually feels like fun now doing that all.

Stuck on weight though. Not more than 1600kcal daily (one or two days higher a week), hovering around all the same 81.something kilograms. It might be related to a carb-heavy diet (from cutting the meat out) and stored water, I can't say. Also I guess I'm regaining some muscle, but certainly not kilograms of it...

Might be interesting to run two days low-carb and cardio exercise to empty glycogen stores and lose the water that goes with them, then see what my weight does.

Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/08/18 04:25 AM

I keep preaching about a food intake tracking app...and I’ll do it again! Keep up with your salt, when I jump in weight or stop dropping, it often comes down to salt and retaining water if other factors are normal. The good thing is that doesn’t last once I’m aware of it, and fat has continued to burn even if the scale doesn’t always reflect it. Get your potassium up too, that offsets salt and water retention by getting your body to pass more salt.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/09/18 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Wait to see if it gives you trouble, or wait and see if doing something can get rid of it?

The way I understand it from my GP, there is treatment if they start giving me trouble, but if that fails they recommend removing the gallbladder (the NYC doc said something similar). I'm just not showing symptoms which are conclusive to being connected to gallstones. He pressed on my abdomen where my gallbladder should be and I have no tenderness there, so it could have been all kidney stone related, just that incidentally they also found gallstones on the imaging.

I need to thoroughly research this myself, but for now I'm just sticking with a clean low-fat diet (but not low-fat replaced by salt and/or sugar).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/14/18 03:41 PM

It's almost a month after NYC and we've been killing it! My previous nagging torso aches and pains are still gone (can workout with more intensity now, especially with crunches/sit-ups) as is my temptation with food. I've only binged once with the nuts and dates (last Sat. night), and eating cleaner than I ever have and enjoying it.

I made some observations on that long road trip...

Wife and I mostly share food preferences and opinions. Having grown up lower middle-class, as kids we cleaned our plates and never wasted. Same mentality today, we'll do 'doggy bags' or more recently (last 10 years), spilt a plate. This bothered me at first, I kind of felt like we were being cheap (which we are at our core, I guess). But then I was watching a television program on obesity where a manager of Chili's (IIRC) said that if you think portion sizes are too big, just take it home or share a plate. If restaurants can have that mentality, so will I . smile But it's a moot point now as we seldom eat out.

Anyway, what I noticed is that we usually split plates down the middle, occasionally 55/45%, up to 60/40% if it's something really big and heavy. She usually matches my meals, but what she doesn't do is snack as often. Even on a trip, I'm always ready to break out a Ziploc trail mix bag, or whatever snacks we have. At home it's usually cashews, dates, prunes and oranges. It's the constant snacking that's been hurting my progress (not that I didn't know this, especially when I'm disciplined enough to count calories) but this time I refrained almost every time I wanted a snack and she didn't, until she was ready. Then I matched her (she normally doesn't eat the entire bag at once), although sometimes it felt like I was rationing (always wanting one more dip in the bag). So I'm trying to develop better snacking habits, a problem I've documented throughout this thread.

What's also helping is that, all day long I'm guzzling as much water as I can tolerate (after my NYC incident, I fear not getting enough water) and I think the water with crushed ice is helping to keep my snacking demons at bay.

I believe that by the end of this month I'll match my 2009 size/weight, then once again I'll be targeting my wedding day size (I think HS is out of the question at this point, for both of us, maybe not such a bad thing at 50). wink



Posted By: Marc

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/14/18 07:43 PM

As anyone ever dealt with misalignment of the rib cage (Rib out) resulting in pain in the chest similar to heart attack symptoms? I'm 61, not sure that's what I have but it started 6 years ago, the day after a heavy chest workout, I was driving to LA when all of sudden got this sharp pain in the chest, thought I was having a heart attack, went to my doctor, pass some test, x-ray, blood work but they couldn't find anything . So I took a break from training and resume a couple weeks later and everything was fine until 3 months ago the pain came back, can't do any pushing movement like mowing the lawn , riding a bike or else I will feel it shortly after. Sleeping in different bed like lately when I went on a 4 day cruise also triggers it, that pain does not last very long but it's stressing me out when it happens

I want to get back into training

Marc..
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/15/18 04:07 PM

Could be a torn muscle? When I tore my bicep I thought it was tendonitis for almost a year until I saw an orthopaedic specialist.
Posted By: Marc

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 05/15/18 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
Could be a torn muscle? When I tore my bicep I thought it was tendonitis for almost a year until I saw an orthopaedic specialist.


I think I found what the condition is called, Costochondritis. At lest I can now search for a remedy

Thanks, Marc..
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/01/18 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
I believe that by the end of this month I'll match my 2009 size/weight.


Pffft, wishful thinking. I've put back on what I lost in NYC, back to wearing the clothes I wore at beginning of trip. It's not like I've been splurging or doing much cheat snacking, but my cardio (treadmill and outdoors) has gone to pot, I need another mega-walking incentive to get my head back into it (maybe New Orleans this August for a concert, make a mini-vacation out of walking the Quarter and downtown).

Despite all the walking in NYC, my wife gained from all the eating, especially the last few days when I had little appetite and she ate most of my share (she owes me several half-cupcakes and 1/4 of a Katz's Pastrami)! But like my ectomorphic brother, once she goes back to eating normally (mainly eating at home), any extra weight falls off quickly. Right now I feel like *I'm* the one who's menopausal! biggrin

Oh well, the comfortable 34 inchers felt good while it lasted, but at least I'm getting progressively stronger and harder (mainly arms and chest). I don't think situps and crunches or any abs work or yoga makes much of a difference if your BF% is still too high, except that you feel stronger at your core. Maybe I'm developing a six-pack under the flab, lol. My Mrs. isn't into 'skinny' like I am so I have that going for me I guess, I just don't want to start having foot problems again (after doing so well in NYC).

We've noticed the Molly Ringwalds are playing small towns throughout Louisiana lately, thinking about making weekend road trips (shorter drives, wouldn't require a rental) and exploring some of these towns on foot while we're there (similar to OK/MO). That would be kinda cool, and not so expensive.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/01/18 07:07 PM

Sounds like an excuse to plan another trip!

I think the ab work I've done has made a huge difference. Waiting to just lose fat to get the waist size down would take a lot longer than getting toned up at the same time. There's a psychological benefit to that too.
I haven't lost much on the scale lately, but I have seen a lot of progress on the weight training, so I'm assuming I'm still losing fat while having good results training.
We're moving from the Y to a big hospital managed gym this month. Really nice place, tons of equipment, new, several zones to workout in and a few amenities the Y didn't have. It's oddly stressful, I kind of hate to leave the Y where I've made so much happen over the last year. The new place is cheaper by $20 and covers the whole family and is certainly nicer. Further to drive by 3 mi., but I think it will be ok. I'm just wary of messing with the formula that's worked, I don't want to do anything that changes my mindset.
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/09/18 04:58 PM

So, I've reached my first goal for the year - clocking below 100kgs.

Down 20kg from january. Yay!

Eating less and exercising is the simple method I've used - no diet or anything.

Since summer season is here I'm on my hiking binge period - hit a new best today:

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Never done 1000 meters of ascent on a hike smile
The distance is more normal for me for a weekend day hike - I've clock in a 33km hike along the seaside of Oslo a couple of weeks ago.

Next goal - 95kg biggrin

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/10/18 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by EAF331 MadDog
Eating less and exercising is the simple method I've used - no diet or anything.


Good job! thumbsup

Yeah, that's really the bottom line, and time. It just takes...time.

++++++++++

Clothes container check today, probably our second to last, but our closets and dressers will be lighter by this evening (more bags for Goodwill). The final containers contain not just our smallest but also our nicest clothes, including things that aren't really...us. Should be interesting. smile
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/14/18 02:24 PM

First thing in the morning while making coffee and breakfast, I usually watch a couple of inspirational YouTube videos on men's health and fitness. But this morning I watched a female's perspective (who seems to be fit but doesn't appear to be a gym rat type). I thought this woman made a fantastic 11 min. speech, hitting on touchy subjects such as body image and unhealthy weight loss (male and female), but without resorting to Fat Acceptance or Fat Logic, or trying to promote HAES. Just one of the better and well balanced videos on the subject of weight and the importance of fitness, IMO...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SLP1BF7KBQ


But this is still one of my favorites...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K60xHx836T0


Also this one (by General Mark Hertling)...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWN13pKVp9s
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/14/18 03:21 PM

Congrats Maddog!
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/18/18 09:07 PM

So, seems I'm going to buy a Pushbike.

They are shutting down the intra-city railline in front of my apartment for July and August. Instead of a 25min commute it would become a 55min commute with the replacement bus service, or using the overcrowded, noisy and stinky subway it would be 35mins. Terrible minutes..

With a bike, Google says it's 30mins. Much of it on dedicated bike paths.

I've long wondered if it might be a worthy idea, but now it seems a good workaround for an otherwise crappy summer. The fact that my company decided to pay out our overtime accounts this month just makes it an even easier decision.

Looking for a ~500EUR model, something that I won't be sleepless over if I have to park it outside. I do have space in the apartment for it.

Meaning, that's 2x30min a day cardio workout, free. With the additional bonus that I can't eat my daily morning muffin while riding. Let's see if I can bring up the motivation, but it might really be a good way to get in some exercise. Also on the weekends - I'm on the city edge, and there's some beautiful countryside within an hour.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/22/18 01:26 PM

What do you call a fat person in NYC?
A tourist.


It was amazing to me to see the difference from what I'm use to, especially considering the concentration of eating places in NYC, not to mention street vendors. A real eye-opener, to see the effects of a community relying so much on foot travel. Even if you take the subway, you still have to walk to and from the stations while going up and down stairs.

Since NYC, I've made a daily effort to walk as much as possible, often taking the least efficient and sometimes most time consuming path getting from point A to B.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/22/18 01:56 PM

Not worth giving up cars, I’ll stick to the gym! LOL
It’s nice to live where car insurance is cheap and the parking is easy.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/22/18 04:09 PM

I can't even walk my road, a mile long dead end of loose gravel, too hard on the ankles. But at least there's nice places to walk which are close enough to drive to in the evenings; otherwise, I have a treadmill.

What I *hate* are large parking lots with entrances only near the doors. I sometimes have to wait behind cars looking for the closest spaces, while I end up driving to the back of the lot and walk. Fortunately, it's only a couple places I know of that's like this which consistently give me trouble.

I'm nursing a sore left leg right now, feels like muscles around the knee (overextended?) so my pace isn't as brisk as usual, but distance is no problem.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 06/22/18 04:30 PM

Yeah, maybe overextended or twisted. When I started wearing Vans, which are known for the sticky soles, being skateboard shoes, my knees got inflamed from my feet sticking so much when walking and turning, twisting my legs at the knees. Weird problem, but it went away over time.

We started our new gym at the first of the month and I’m loving it! The place is huge! There’s so much space and multiple areas that most of my workouts are by myself in a room. Far more weight and cable machines. I’ve gone from working out for 1 hour and 15-30 mins to 2 hrs to 2hrs 15 minutes. It’s like getting 2 or 3 extra days a week. Schedule is 4 days on, 1 day off, then 4 days on, 2 days off. Seems the best for recovery without losing too many days.
Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/01/18 09:20 PM

Small update:

Picked up my bicycle yesterday and I'm loving it. Met a friend today for a small tour, and we started near where I work so got to try out that route. A lot of it are dedicated bike paths so my contact with rush hour car traffic will be minimal.

https://www.cube.eu/2018/bikes/road/road-cyclocross/nuroad/cube-nuroad-blacknred-2018/

Last Bike I owned years ago was my Dad's former 16+ kilograms Iron Hulk. That one would be 15 or 20 years old now. This new one is so light and runs so well that it's a pure pleasure to ride. Really amazing how much better they are today.

I suppose 2x 30mins a day will not be a bad cardio workout.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/01/18 10:04 PM

Nice looking bike! Keep that heart rate up and it will be a good workout.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/02/18 04:16 PM

I miss bicycle riding. I need to find a place around here that rents them for a day (like Callaway Gardens, GA).

++++++++++

I self-diagnosed my injury as a pulled hamstring, happened while during leg curls on my bench. I was using the same weight (55 lbs. [25 kg]) but doing the exercise *really* slowly. Why? Showing off. eek You'd think I'd outgrown that.

Then I reinjured it last week, stepping up onto a 2' (61 cm) chair to change a light bulb on a 9' (274 cm) ceiling. I couldn't put weight on it for a couple of hours, wife helped me to the sofa and I kept it on ice for 20 min. intervals for the rest of the evening. I could eventually walk that evening with a cane, and without the cane the next morning, but with a limp. It healed quickly though, enough to walk comfortably again three days later. I'm not doing any leg workouts until it feels completely healed.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/02/18 10:20 PM

Slow is good, but injuries are not! I recently watched something about how the most popular leg machines just aren’t safe because of how they lock you into position and can cause all kinds of issues. Among other machines too. If it lingers for a week or two, do yourself a favor and get looked at by an orthopedic doc to get diagnosed and a PT referral. A little physical therapy can go far.
Posted By: nibbio

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/03/18 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
I miss bicycle riding. I need to find a place around here that rents them for a day (like Callaway Gardens, GA).

++++++++++

I self-diagnosed my injury as a pulled hamstring, happened while during leg curls on my bench. I was using the same weight (55 lbs. [25 kg]) but doing the exercise *really* slowly. Why? Showing off. eek You'd think I'd outgrown that.

Then I reinjured it last week, stepping up onto a 2' (61 cm) chair to change a light bulb on a 9' (274 cm) ceiling. I couldn't put weight on it for a couple of hours, wife helped me to the sofa and I kept it on ice for 20 min. intervals for the rest of the evening. I could eventually walk that evening with a cane, and without the cane the next morning, but with a limp. It healed quickly though, enough to walk comfortably again three days later. I'm not doing any leg workouts until it feels completely healed.



I suggest you drop the leg curls, as I did years ago. Always felt the movement was unnatural and dangerous, besides it's an isolation exercise with very limited value.
Deadlifts OTOH are a good compund exercise and also target the hamstrings (biceps femoris), plus a bunch of other stuff. Much greater bang for the buck, less potential for injury. If handling too much weight is an issue, a great exercise is the single leg romanian deadlift. Great for improving balance and you will definitely feel it in your hamstrings and gluteus. But first of course let your hamstring heal properlly.
Posted By: mugwump

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/29/18 05:04 PM

I've been doing the keto diet for five months now and I lost 40 pounds. I'd tried it last summer and lost about 15 pounds but I quit when I got my blood work checked any my LDL and total cholesterol had gone up by about 30% from the healthy range and into the unhealthy range. Naturally, I gained most of the weight back in about 4 months. I read up on the keto diet and cholesterol and decided to try again but modify the diet in an effort to mitigate the cholesterol issues. Unfortunately, it didn't work. I've had my blood work checked twice while on this diet and the LDL and total cholesterol keep going up. It's now well into DANGER territory so I'm going to have to find a new solution. It's frustrating as this had been working well for me although I had plateaued and not lost any weight for about a month. I felt good on the diet and, after a few rough weeks adjusting to the requirements (planning meals, not going out to eat, spending a lot more on food), I found it easy to follow. I've done a lot of reading on the diet and it turns out there is a subset of the population who will experience massive spikes in cholesterol while on the keto diet. They're known as hyper responders. It appears that this may be linked to the APOE gene. This gene is also linked to Alzheimer's disease. The gene has three major varients, e2, e3, and e4. You'll inherit alleles from your parents and will likely see a combo of the two alleles (e2/e3 for example). Those with one or two e4 alleles seem to suffer from cholesterol spikes while on this diet.

I'd done 23 and me a few years ago so I decided to poke around in my results to see if they checked for the APOE gene and the allele variants. They did and I discovered that I was e3/e4. Bad luck there. There's a lot of "info" on the web saying not to worry about LDL cholesterol as it's the size of the LDL particles that matter more than the levels but much of this seems to be written by advocates of the diet who simply want to believe it 's healthy rather than on empirical data. I would like to get a more detailed set of blood work done to determine particle size and number just to see if it jives with the writing in a lot of these blogs but I live in Canuckistan and my doctor refuses to sign off on these tests and I haven't been able to find a private option (private medical practice is heavily restricted in my province).

Sucks that I have to get off this and I'm not sure what to try instead. My doctor wants me to go on a 15% protein / 85% complex carb/low sugar diet. Basically a slab of fish or fowl with a massive amount of greens. I'll give it a try but I know that amount of roughage will play havoc with my guts and I likely won't be able to stick with it long term.

Any suggestions?
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/29/18 09:49 PM

The keto-cholesterol thing is pretty well known. It's just part of the process. I'd talk to your doctor about it if you didn't tell him the diet you're on.
These are two great channels, btw.





IMO, I have no desire to do keto. I don't think it's sustainable and thus not good in the long run.
I don't like named diets, but I do like timing meals. I started with intermitent fasting at 16 hrs fasted, 8 hrs eating window. Now I'm on 4 hours in the evening and it doesn't bother me at all. That includes my workout in a fasted state, which is now up to 3 hrs 5 days a week.
My "diet" is 1500-1600 cals, the weight loss region, but I don't believe for a second that alone will cause weight loss. It takes the exercise too. Similarly, exercise without the diet isn't effective either.
I'm right around 50% carbs, 25% protein, 25% fats. I get some salt from foods and some sugar I'm sure, but not by adding it to anything.
Instead of a strange, temporary basis diet, I want a new menu and lifestyle. Anything else and I feel like weight will just come back on. It takes lifestyle change.

Come up with new foods. Eating right doesn't have to be expensive either! We spend in the neighborhood of $80 LESS per WEEK than we used to. HUGE savings.
A lot of good ideas here:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4402270/weight-loss-recipes#Post4402270
IMO, keep it fairly simple and make things in bulk and prep so you can get more meals out of it throughout the week. Bake/grill a bunch of chicken on Sunday night so you can use it through the week. Or potatoes (what I do a lot now). It doesn't have to be boring or hard to make to be healthy.

Ween yourself off of anything "packaged", soft drinks--even those with sugar substitutes.
All kinds of things can trigger insulin (even sugar substitutes). In the presence of insulin, you don't burn fat. That's an over simplification, but it's the bottom line and an easy rule to remember.

Find some kind of exercise you enjoy. If you don't enjoy it, it takes willpower and that runs out. Create a routine, a lifestyle. You'll feel better after a while an may feel like adding other things, or increasing time.
Cells in your body are replaced every 3-4 weeks. All the damage that's been done, like becoming insulin resistant, can be wiped out if you start doing things right. In a month you'll feel far better.
Exercise is key. Do what you do every day or every other day and up the intensity over time. You'll feel GOOD. In fact, it works so well that I even have a kind of crash if I go 2 days without working out now. I never believed that before, but it's very powerful.

Don't rely on the diet except to get you going. As you start getting healthier, add in the appropriate amount of exercise. Don't over do it if you don't exercise now, just get started, that's the main thing. Then increase.
It takes time, but time is going to pass anyway, so you might as well benefit from it. I can't believe it's been this long since I started at 280 lbs, doing the bike at the gym for 30 minutes to start. It goes by fast and the rewards just KEEP COMING. You don't have to wait to reach your goal to be happy about the whole thing, the progress alone is incredibly rewarding.
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Posted By: mugwump

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/29/18 11:52 PM

I did the intermittent fasting thing for about a month but it's not for me. I'm a shift worker so it just doesn't work out. Exercise routines are also an issue. I work an odd schedule. 12 hour shifts on a 4 week rotation. 2 days on, 2 days off, 3 days on, 2 days off, 3 days on, 2 days off then switch to nights. 2 nights on, 2 days off, 3 nights on, 7 days off. Repeat.

I work out on my days off and either hike, swim, or lift weights. Not enough time to get in an effective workout during my work days as I eat up about 15.5 hours between commuting, work, and attending to basic needs like cooking, cleaning, hygiene, chores, etc. Fortunately, my work usually sees me walking around 8-10 KM per shift so at least I'm not sedentary.

My diet is approx 80% fat, 15% protein, 5% complex carbs. I don't eat any processed carbs or anything with added sugars. Started out at 263 lbs. Down to 223 right now but I've hit a plateau and the high LDL cholesterol numbers are a concern.

I've read up a lot on the keto/cholesterol thing but I'm what's known as a hyper-responder so a lot of the info doesn't apply to me.

http://cholesterolcode.com/hyper-responder-faq/

Hopefully I can find a private clinic here where I can get some tests run but I'm stonewalled so far. The bureaucracy associated with a public healthcare system can be a nightmare at times.
Posted By: McGonigle

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/30/18 08:33 AM

Mugwump, I'm not very familiar with the keto diet but does the number of calories taken in, figure in the equation somewhere? I'm far from any expert but to my mind, loosing weight is still to a great extent a numbers game; burn more than you consume. And from my own personal experience; with plenty, regular physical exercise like biking or running, the cholesterol can be reduced to normal whereas it cannot be regulated by diet alone.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/30/18 04:51 PM

Keto is essentially cutting out carbs and anything that spikes insulin to get your body to switch to running strictly on fat. Takes a few days to a week to get going and then you have to be very careful what you eat avoiding carbs/insulin spikes or you can throw yourself out of it. Those two channels I linked talk about it a lot, but I don’t do it.
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/30/18 06:32 PM

Is the Keto diet similar to the Atkins diet?

I was pushed into that by my last girlfriend (we did it together) and I thought it was a weird diet but it did work. I wasn't on it for any extended period because I'd heard it wasn't healthy. I just added it to the list of diet fads I had tried over the years.

Willpower works,sadly I'm all out of that atm frown
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/30/18 06:46 PM

Exactly why a good diet/exercise lifestyle works, although it may take longer, while fad diets are just temporary fixes. Willpower alone can’t do it, it runs out. Real change is harder but it sticks.

Atkins is basically the same idea as keto, but subtle differences.

Mugwump, that work schedule is fine, just get regular and step up the workout. Instead of focusing on daily calorie burn in your workouts, worry about your weekly average. Track your meals with an app to really know what you eat/drink and include your workouts to know what’s going on. Good apps cover both diet and exercise so you can put numbers to your efforts.

When weight loss plateaus, reevaluate. It isn’t usually a curve going down but steps. If you stall for a few weeks, check your tracking app. Have you let up? Is your salt intake higher? It could be mainly water weight gain, which isn’t a huge deal, just get it under control again. Maybe your weight loss is being offset by gaining muscle? Nothing wrong with that. Remember, the goal is fat loss, less so weight loss. Healthy comes first of course.
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/30/18 07:15 PM

So, did a little check - I've had around 1024 km of training activity (thread mill, jogging, walking or hiking) so far this year since I started in the first week of february.

Happy with my new look so far also smile

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Posted By: mugwump

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 07/31/18 01:27 AM

Keto is much more restrictive than Atkins but also more focused on long term benefits rather than just weight loss. Basically, you're on a very strict low carbohydrate, moderate protein regimen in which you want your body to enter a state of ketosis where it can no longer rely on sugars for its source of fuel. It takes a few days to enter a state of ketosis (and you'll feel like crap the first few times you do) but once in, your body will burn fats for energy. You can check to see if you're in ketosis with urine sticks or a breathalyser. Because the diet is high in fat, you'll generally never feel hungry and your body will use your own fat stores as a fuel source. My average daily caloric intake is about 1900 now and I often have to force myself to eat. The main drawbacks are that there is simply no cheating allowed at all. If you eat too many carbs/sugars, you'll drop out of ketosis and back into using sugars for energy and you'll have to start the process over again. It can be difficult to follow if your lifestyle involves a lot of socializing/eating out. It took some adjustment for me to get used to eating like this but it's mostly second nature now. I do sometimes get complacent and stop doing detailed tracking of my food intake and I find myself out of ketosis because I ate too much protein (too much protein will also drop you out of ketosis) but generally I can stick with it.

Krypto, I wish it were muscle gain. I've lost a lot of muscle mass over the last 5 years. I used to hit the gym 3-5 days/week and lift moderate/heavy but I had a health scare and was told to stop heavy lifting. I can only bench about 40% of what I was doing 5 years ago.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/02/18 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st
LOL Mark, I get the difference.
Do you really think 60kg wouldn't cause some damage?

Checked with a scale yesterday and during pushups I have 59kg pressure on my hands.

That's double of what I have in weights now. I just hate the fact that so much energy there goes into abs and other muscles, so I hope the bench gives me better focus on chest.


No, body weight is safer for a beginner than weights. The form is much more forgiving and less stupid mistakes that can be disastrous.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/06/18 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by nibbio
Originally Posted by MarkG
I miss bicycle riding. I need to find a place around here that rents them for a day (like Callaway Gardens, GA).

++++++++++

I self-diagnosed my injury as a pulled hamstring, happened while during leg curls on my bench. I was using the same weight (55 lbs. [25 kg]) but doing the exercise *really* slowly. Why? Showing off. eek You'd think I'd outgrown that.

Then I reinjured it last week, stepping up onto a 2' (61 cm) chair to change a light bulb on a 9' (274 cm) ceiling. I couldn't put weight on it for a couple of hours, wife helped me to the sofa and I kept it on ice for 20 min. intervals for the rest of the evening. I could eventually walk that evening with a cane, and without the cane the next morning, but with a limp. It healed quickly though, enough to walk comfortably again three days later. I'm not doing any leg workouts until it feels completely healed.



I suggest you drop the leg curls, as I did years ago. Always felt the movement was unnatural and dangerous, besides it's an isolation exercise with very limited value.
Deadlifts OTOH are a good compund exercise and also target the hamstrings (biceps femoris), plus a bunch of other stuff. Much greater bang for the buck, less potential for injury. If handling too much weight is an issue, a great exercise is the single leg romanian deadlift. Great for improving balance and you will definitely feel it in your hamstrings and gluteus. But first of course let your hamstring heal properlly.


I delayed responding to this because I didn't want to accept it (long-time habits/routines are hard for me to change). But I'm convinced now that you're absolutely right, and I've already removed the cumbersome and space robbing leg apparatus from my weight bench (our next bench won't have the leg stuff). We're doing squats and lunges for hamstrings and calves instead, also DDP Yoga. We've also stopped using the lat/curl bar tower that connects to the bench, staying off 'machines' as much as possible (except for the treadmill when it's raining). My next bench will simply be a bench with separate squat station.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/06/18 07:25 PM

^ Follow-up to above...

nibbio, I've been looking over your suggestion of lighter weight deadlifts...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoKjrvJi-Iw



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViVhUZGk6i4

I think we can handle this. Thanks.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/12/18 01:23 AM

Update:

- Next week is annual checkup week, including a little tooth drilling on Wednesday (I'm gonna gas to Alan Parson's "I Robot" this time - kinda looking forward to it, my dentist is really cool. tuner )

- Physicals on Tuesday (doing them together), including first ever testosterone check (just curious, also want a baseline for comparing in later years). I'll post results.

- Training for NYC road trip on March 8th, booked 6 nights in same hotel (for half the price, time of year). No concerts or events, no fancy dinners, much tighter budget, doing nothing extra except for what we didn't get to last time (Met Museum, much more of Central Park, China Town/Little Italy). Main goal is to cover 20 miles on foot for 5 days (100 miles of walking Manhattan).

- Slightly twisted troubling knee/hamstring on ladder yesterday working on roofing framing. I can walk fine, just a little stiff. Staying off treadmill though, and too wet to walk outside. This is already concerning me for upcoming NYC trip in 7 months.

- Container check - wife finally ditched the rest of her baggy over-sized wardrobe, including the tan jeans I hate so much (in so many of my pics). I made some wardrobe concessions as well, stuff I won't wear outside of the house anymore.

Guess I'm going preppy now (with 34-1/2" waist smile ), I'm no longer the Great Cornholio, until I'm too old to care (pic is a couple years old, day of walking downtown Baton Rouge)...

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/13/18 01:46 PM

Wanted to add that on our return to NYC in March, we'll be going back to the Intrepid, our only repeat (part of a 3 Museum City Pass). That was the day we walked ~20 miles...

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We just need 5 of those days back-to-back. I think we can do it, especially in consistently cooler weather and without time constraints of tickets/reservations.

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I found the solution for my hamstring/knee problem yesterday at Walmart, a $12.00 knee brace, the kind you slip on and then tighten 3 Velcro straps (above, below and behind knee). Works like a charm, walked all day (Costco/Home Depot/etc.) and even treadmilled last night for an hour at speeds 3.6 to 3.8 (brisk walking only, no running).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/14/18 06:28 PM

Physicals went well this morning, but you never know what's going on until the blood work comes in (which we'll be able to check online this time).

Wife tried to throw me under the bus when I was getting off the exam table, holding out her index finger and asking our GP, "Isn't Mark due for a finger check?" butt LOL. Retaliation for a hot flash comment I made earlier. biggrin

Guess what? They don't give you the finger anymore! whoohoo I *am* getting a prostate check this time, but it'll be on my blood work (I had 3 vials to her 1). No more fingers unless there's a problem.

So that and my T-level will be extra info this time to the usual sugar and cholesterol stuff. I think I'm doing about the best with my lifestyle that I'm capable of so this is it. My blood pressure was good but not good enough to be taken completely off BP meds (although already reduced). I may be on them for the rest of my life (genetically inclined), but I can live with that if I have to. If only I were trying this hard at 30.
Posted By: Khai

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/14/18 06:46 PM

late to the party on this... but

to set the scene... 3 years ago, I was 23 stone, (322lbs), drinking 6-8 large cans of K cider a night, and was told by the doc my BP was 1 stage below hospitallse on the spot.

thanks to my very patient wife, with her portion control, denying me the Apocalypse Snacking and quitting drinking, I'm down to 15.5 stone (217lbs) and still sauntering my way down to my target of 13stone (182lbs) with my BP now under control with no meds required.

I replaced the drinking with driving..... they think I'm mad at work cos I think nothing of doing 4 hours a day driving....

and ok.. no training as such.. but today I stripped down 2 cooling towers. pulled the drift packs out,, cleaned them and put 'em back together... does that count?
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/14/18 10:56 PM

Congrats on the weight loss Khai, over 100 lbs. so far (or over 7 stone), that's a big freaking loss.

I came close to getting off BP meds twice in my 40s (my only meds), but couldn't quite do it. I believe I'll have to get my cardio back to where it was (measured in how many Rush songs I can run to vs. a distance). smile

Hard physical work sounds like good training to me.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/14/18 11:13 PM

Sure that counts! MOVING counts, much less working on stuff. LOL
Good stuff Mark, glad you got a good report. The BP meds are no big deal, although I know we'd both like to be done with it just for the achievement more than anything else.
I did the testosterone check a couple of years ago after all of those commercials worried me to death about it! Blood test, nothing weird, so why not get some peace of mind? It was fine. I doubt it's the issue the ads would like us to think.
The trip sounds good, you've got experience there now, I bet you cram in a lot more in the time.

My appt is on the 24th, but the cholesterol figures prob won't be in until later, also posted online.

The good news lately is that my wife got taken off of her blood pressure med and the lipitor is every other day now. The doctor told her not to lose more weight. LOL I can't imagine hearing those words. She didn't need to lose much, but the diet improvements we've made have helped a lot, as well as her working out 3-4 times a week.

I won't hit my August goal, but I'm fine wih it. I thought I'd have to be a lot lighter to shape up and feel this good. I didn't account for stepping up the workouts and putting on some *good* weight. I'm still enjoying it all, so I hope to keep it up. I'm to the point I'm patient about the weight loss and more interested in the workout side than the weight loss side of it.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/15/18 12:20 PM

That's awesome, RK! thumbsup

I have the same attitude, except I'm a little disappointed with my lack of progress on workouts (strength and build). I'm really curious about my T for that reason alone.

We love our GP...
https://www.lanermc.org/find-a-provider/find-a-physician/reagan-elkins

...mainly because he's someone we're comfortable talking to about anything. He gets me, knows my concerns with aging and what motivates me in keeping a healthy lifestyle. He's also an extreme ectomorph, so he relates to my wife regarding weight/size as she continues to slowly slim down (mainly shape, not so much weight anymore). It can't be overstated how important it is to have a GP that you're both comfortable with.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/16/18 04:08 AM

Tonight we registered our "Health Portals" from our health care system (they gave us registration info after our physicals). Wow! We can see our info starting from 2010 (shortly after moving back to Louisiana). It's pretty neat having all this info online. I can see yesterday's blood work order, all pending.

Tonight is a good example why I wanted my T checked. I barely made it through my workout, and that's after backing off my current weights, knowing I just wasn't feeling it tonight. It seems like I'm having too many of these workouts lately, where I really don't feel like working out at all. I have occasional off days but I'm having off *weeks* now. It could be that I've been outside in the heat too much the past couple of months or so and having slight heat sickness or whatever it's called. But my energy is feeling zapped a lot lately and I've read that low T can have that effect. Or maybe something will show in one of those other blood work numbers that might explain it (I've forgotten what they all mean).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/16/18 02:03 PM

Got my numbers this morning, and most (if not all) are at least better than as good as last year (posted earlier in thread)...

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I don't know what to make of my T yet (last number on report), I need to do more research. From what little I know, it's neither high nor low for my age, and not low enough to be causing my current fatigue. I'm thinking maybe the outside heat and that I'm back into a bad habit of only ~5 hours of sleep. Plus I've been pushing my physical endurance for some time now (especially weekends), maybe it's time to accept my age? Nah. smile BTW, I don't believe we've discussed sleep at all on this thread, we could be overlooking something important with diet and training.

In any case, I know that my BF% is still way too high (I don't have a # but I don't need one with this stubborn belly), and high BF% can lower T. I want my T at least 600 500 throughout my 50's and to do it *naturally* (neither of us are keen on taking meds/pills/hormones unless they become necessary). I have a lot of research to do, but I know raising that number is going to take more than just putting more Metallica on my daily playlists. tuner

My other numbers are pretty darn good for the most part I think, and reflect my lifestyle at 50.

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Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/16/18 03:33 PM

Just finished going over my wife's numbers (we're a team), man I really like this online ability. I'm not going to post it all (although I have permission to), too much stuff, nothing flagged. Just the highlights (what we're most interested in [and some of these are flagged])...

Glucose Level 80 mg/dL [65-100 mg/dL]
Triglycerides Level 81 mg/dL [<150 mg/dL]

Total Cholesterol 238 mg/dL [<200 mg/dL] H

HDL Cholesterol 70 mg/dL [>60 mg/dL]
LDL Cholesterol 152 mg/dL [<100 mg/dL] H

Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) 1.430 uIU/mL [0.358-3.740 uIU/mL] *

* I've heard of getting your thyroid checked, I've just never seen it before.

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Important numbers compared with last year...

Me:
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Glucose from 96 to 85
Triglycerides from 199 to 94

My cholesterol didn't change that much, but I'm more interested in the sugar stuff (lots of diabetes in my family)...

Total Cholesterol from 192 to 193
HDL from 38 to 40
LDL from 114 to 134


Wife:
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Glucose from 86 to 80
Triglycerides from 139 to 81

Cholesterol is her main concern (family history)...

Total Cholesterol from 243 to 238
HDL from 69 to 70
LDL from 146 to 152

Her cholesterol staying steady, but still slightly high.

Overall we're pleased with these numbers.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/16/18 10:38 PM

Researching all day and I think I've been buying into some BS. I think I'm fine, I just need better sleeping habits (mainly stop the late-night reading).
Posted By: cichlidfan

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/16/18 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by MarkG
Researching all day and I think I've been buying into some BS. I think I'm fine, I just need better sleeping habits (mainly stop the late-night reading).


I have been known to stay up way to late with a good book. My philosophy is that a late afternoon nap is a good thing at my age (about 10 years older than you). Luckily, my dogs agree.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/17/18 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by cichlidfan
Originally Posted by MarkG
Researching all day and I think I've been buying into some BS. I think I'm fine, I just need better sleeping habits (mainly stop the late-night reading).


I have been known to stay up way to late with a good book. My philosophy is that a late afternoon nap is a good thing at my age (about 10 years older than you). Luckily, my dogs agree.


So it's come to this, taking the old man afternoon nap. biggrin Makes sense, during the hottest part of the day, and my dogs would love it too. If I can't get the 8 at night I might try doing this. I remember reading that a short afternoon nap is beneficial for all ages.

We're trying something new...start shutting it down at 9:30, in bed for 10, reading lights out for 10:30 (except on Friday nights, what I consider my...guarantee). wink Worked out fine this morning, except for the excessive snoozing. I'm good with a single 10-minute snooze (if that), not 4 or 5 of them.

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About the T stuff and sleep, I'm just trying to feel more energized in the evenings, especially when it's time to exercise. It's not enjoyable when you're laging and slightly injured, especially with weights when you're feeling weak. Unless we exercise in the morning, but we've tried that and couldn't stay consistent with it.

I also want to deal with any problems *before* they happen (I'm very proactive with my health now). But when it comes to men's health, it's easy to let this stuff get into your head, creating your own problems. Information is so contradicting that I don't like to read anything that doesn't have a Comments section which allows open discussion and counterpoints. For example, I love reading the bodybuilding.com forums. There was a thread with a guy in his early-20's with my total-T (although free-T is supposedly more important, and I don't know mine) and the consensus by some was that, if he wasn't having the classic symptoms of low T, not to worry about it and just keep doing what he was doing (working out and losing weight). Apparently the process of losing weight/fat can lower your T, so he should test again when he's in a more stable condition. Also, time of day and other conditions can affect your results, so you don't really know what your T is until you get multiple results to compare with.

My situation is exclusive to fatigue and that I've stopped progressing with my weight chart, even cutting back a little for my last few workouts (dropping 5 to 10 lbs., depending on exercise). I'm also a little gun shy now as I don't want another injury (probably a good thing). Maybe I've just hit a plateau and shouldn't be fooling with more weight. I'm going to go with the more/better sleep for a while and see how I feel.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/18/18 01:53 PM

Wife has it figured out (besides the sleep), says I haven't been the same since I injured my hamstring back in June (and re-injured twice). I don't know why that would affect my upper body strength though, maybe it's all in my head.

So I'm taking a workout/walking break to let it heal, at least a couple of weeks, and keep the knee brace on as much as I can tolerate. If it's still bothering me Sept. 1st, I'm going to have it looked at.

Older gents, don't push too hard. old_simmer
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/19/18 01:49 AM

Today my wife and I sat down with our new numbers, investigated what they all mean (rather we refreshed our memories), and compared them with preceding blood panels to look for trends. Then we looked at all the information we could find online and in our health books regarding: HDL Cholesterol (good cholesterol - the 'chimney sweepers' of your arteries), Testosterone and Menopause. And together we came to the same conclusion that I've been going on about the past couple of days (especially for 50 year-olds)...

Your body needs proper sleep, a good 8 hours if possible, and as much deep sleep as possible. My problem is that I have to stop thinking of sleep mainly as a waste of time.
With only so much life to live, why would I want to sleep half of it away? <- That's been my attitude for a long time and it's completely wrong!

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Also, if you're in the process of losing weight, don't worry about not progressing with the amount of weight you lift. Your workout weight to body weight ratio is still improving, even with the same workout weight. So wait until your body weight is settled (you consider weight loss complete) and THEN chart your progress (which is going to be slower at 50 than 30).

We're changing some sleeping and exercise habits and making slight adjustments to our diet to try to tighten up some of those numbers, mainly my potentially dangerously low HDL Cholesterol (again, *naturally*, no gimmicky snake oil or pharmaceuticals). And next year I want a complete testosterone breakdown (5 or so different specific readings including free-T [usable T, not bound to a protein]). Today I've learned of all kinds of ways to improve those numbers for next time.

Fascinating stuff, the human body. Learn it and fix what you can.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/20/18 03:22 PM

I wanted to post a wrap-up of the above (and after getting some very unofficial medical advice)...

Testosterone 418 ng/dL: Non-issue (so far). Total-T is just not enough info to go by and usually won't be considered by your GP unless you're having multiple symptoms of low T (fatigue, irritability, problems concentrating, and yes, sexual issues) *and* if it's totally in the crapper (symptoms may begin below 300, but for some as low as 250 and even 200). To know what's really going on, you need a breakdown of other numbers like Free-T (usable T) and how sensitive your T receptors are (how effectively your body uses T). You can have a high Total-T but low Free-T, or other reasons (gland performance) that keeps your body from efficiently using available T (common with users of Rogaine, elevated sky-high Total-T but only normal levels of usable Free-T). So unless you have symptoms of low T, you need not worry about it (or websites that say without at least 600 TT, you won't feel like a man...lol).

However, I think it's a good idea to at least get your Total-T checked at age 50, even without having low T symptoms, so that you have a baseline to go by. I still plan to watch for trends with my T over the years as I age (as I do my other numbers, many actually improving with age due to lifestyle). Also, if necessary, to learn my low T threshold if problems do arise in the future. And here's something to consider for the aging male...a super-high T can be dangerous to the prostate.

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HDL Cholesterol 40 mg/dL: This one does concern me, a number that can potentially kill me. HDL, the good cholesterol, is like little elves with spatulas and picks that run around in your bloodstream, scrapping and chipping crap off your arteries and then sweeping the debris to your liver to be processed. At least that's how it's shown in my book "YOU: The Owner's Manual". LDL, the bad cholesterol, does the opposite, sticks around and clogs you up. So you want as many good guys doing their thing and the bad guys to disappear. Not how I am right now, I need many more chippers and sweepers, if just to counter having too many bad guys (LDL 134 mg/dL).

My daily diet is already just about maxed to the healthiest (balance of proteins, good fats and complex carbs), but I know I still eat too much and now I'm forcing myself to count calories. Despite the waist shrinkage, there's quite a bit of belly on top of it and that has to go (I know it's directly linked to my less-than stellar numbers). So maybe more cardio and more reps with slightly lighter weight to burn fat (vs. less reps with more weight and less cardio to build T, I 'll worry about that later).

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So yet another year to get my numbers straightened out (also to start including BMI, BF%, and full body measurements [including the extra inches *above* the waist]).
That about does it for now.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/20/18 10:53 PM

The sleep thing is indeed important. I have an issue with it too. Just can't shut down and I don't like to do it that much. Slept too much when I was a kid, I resented it after a while and don't ever want to repeat that mistake. LOL
Still, that's when you get stronger, heal, get healthy. I sleep FAR FAR better now than a year or so ago. No more sleep apnea, snoring and crap. Sure, with sinus issues, but that's very different.
I just wouldn't sweat the testosterone thing. Accept your positive results and trust your doctor. You'll worry yourself sick about it and there's nothing to worry about.

Not to sound like a broken record, but I still swear by tracking my meals in an app. Real info about not just calories, but carbs and TYPES of carbs esp. sugar, protein, fats, salt...I bet you'd get that LDL down if you gave it a shot. It doesn't take any time to so once you get used to it. Track your water intake too, that helps.

If that hamstring keeps bothering you, go to an orthopedist and get some physical therapy. It isn't cheap, but after I lived with a torn bicep for almost a year, I wished I had done it earlier. Staying off of it might actually NOT be the thing to do. That may just build up scar tissue and make it even worse to deal with.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/21/18 03:38 PM

Good advice, RK. I now consider sleep to be just as important as diet and exercise. My (admittedly lame) version of living in the fast lane (cue up the Eagles) is coming to an end.

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I didn't know that I could have raised my T just by getting proper sleep the night before testing. But that'll never happen on annual checkup week (GP, dentist, dermatologist, optometrist), especially when fasting for morning blood work (I don't sleep well on a totally empty stomach). There are other things I could have done that morning to raise my T (that I won't mention...lol) but that's like cheating. Once you establish a baseline, you need similar conditions for comparison. And all I want now is to watch for trends (good or bad). I *may* one day do home testing (prick finger and send off for results) under more...optimal conditions. smile

I bring this up because there's actually online info on how to bring *down* your T before testing, just low enough to qualify for TRT (which I would consider only as an absolute last resort, after all natural attempts have been exhausted).

At least I pass the body hair and finger test (ring finger longer than index, supposedly indicating higher T at birth). What has become of it now, as with all of my health numbers, is the result of decades of abuse, then about 10 years of making an effort. If only I could go back 30 years and have a talk with myself at 20, when I felt indestructible.

But yeah, enough about that. biggrin

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I'm just not a gadget guy (I have no smart phone), but maybe I'll find an "app" for my PC.

Other than weekday working hours, my wife and I spend pretty much all of our time together, so I know what she eats (even for lunch) and vise versa. I'm following her diet more closely because I'm envious of her high HDL which her cardiologist feels is more important than worrying about her high LDL. Her HDL/Total Cholesterol ratio (I think) is currently in the healthy range, while mine is not. But the only difference in our diets (besides portion sizes, sometimes) is how we snack (usually an apple or pear for her, cashews and prunes or dates for me). I'm probably still eating too many fats, even if it's the better fats. The exact proper ratios of proteins/fats/carbs get too complicated for me and counting calories sucks, which is why I probably need an app of some kind. smile

Short time with new sleeping habits, already feeling like a new man (or it could be all in my head, but I don't think so). No more coffee and dark chocolate dessert (often right before turning in).
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/21/18 05:39 PM

The app I use also has a website, but it IS more oriented towards the app for more info. There are others out there though. If you don't know solid numbers for your intake, it's hard to hit what you want. It can be very surprising to see what you actually take in when you thought you were doing good. Not just calorie amount, but the sources including those hidden sugars. Not to mention watching the salt intake. Gotta know what you're taking in to know if you're hitting the right breakdown as well. I don't go for the no-carb or keto type diets, preferring to just hit a healthy balance instead. For me, that's realistic and sustainable. I've shot for a little under 1600 cals, from 50% carb, 25% protein, 25% fat. If I can get lower carb and higher protein then that's just a better win for the day/week. Some days will be off, but week to week I'm able to stick to it. If I didn't track everything there's no way I'd be able to do it. There are just too many surprises out there. At the same time, I've been surprised at how GOOD some foods have been, despite what I've heard. So many people put down potatoes due to the carbs, but for me, with the balance I'm looking for, I can easily make it fit perfectly. Sometimes I notice I'm taking in far UNDER my goals, but I wouldn't even know that if I wasn't tracking.

Said it before and I'll say it again: weight loss is a stair step down, not a curve...at least for me. When everything stops for a few weeks, it's just time to reevaluate. Get real about what I've been doing by going back over my tracking. Could very well be that I've accidentally increased my salt intake and it's just water weight I've added offsetting the fat loss. If I've slacked on the workout or slacked on the diet (usually the case), I adjust. Sometimes it's just time to change something up despite not doing anything wrong. IMO I have to make even lateral changes just to keep my body adapting to kickstart the fat loss again. Going to intermittent fasting was a huge help, but after a while I felt like it wasn't as big a help, so I shortened the window I eat in. Went to a fasted workout and eating over a few hours in the evening, about 6-9pm, and things got going again. Not quite OMAD, I don't want to commit to that right now, so I'll save that option for the future. I don't want to eat that much at one sitting. Once I got used to it, which wasn't hard after doing the intermittent fasting, it felt pretty good during the day and my workout.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/21/18 09:20 PM

Speaking of fasting (tip #6 below), I know this guy kinda sounds like a quack, but I've seen the same stuff he's saying repeated many times over the past few days...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki6xrEiHE4U

The cholesterol connection is also interesting. I'm starting to like this guy's message and presentation, much like DDP with yoga (older dudes who I can relate to).
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/23/18 02:08 PM

Real or placebo?

Ever since wife started using this about a week ago...
Red Maca Liquid Extract

...her hot flashes/sweats have ceased, helping us both get a good nights sleep. I can tell she's getting better sleep just looking at her eyes in the morning, and the skin around them (color and lines, or lack of).

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New sleeping habits (including suppressing any light for a pitch black bedroom) are helping us both a lot, I think.

Or is it the vitamin supplements we've started taking?...
Nature's Way Alive! Men's Energy Multivitamin
Nature's Way Alive Women's 50 Plus Multivitami

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EDIT: Magnesium is low for some reason, but I eat high-Magnesium foods every day (pumpkin seeds, spinach, cashews, almonds, avocados, etc.)

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Walking the track yesterday evening felt good (temps being a little cooler) followed by a good workout, although I'm not back to my maximum weights yet.

We're now eating organic and grass fed as much as possible (Costco makes that easy by default) and I'm reluctantly adding more red meat to my diet, like gourmet burgers but without the bread (nothing against beef, I just prefer surf to turf).

Good news: One drink a day supposedly raises HDL cholesterol (or 2 for men under 65). biggrin I'm not changing my drinking habits (occasional concert shots) except to have a glass of wine more often (and red is considered better than white for some reason).

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Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/23/18 02:36 PM

IIRC the wine thing is pretty minor, but whatever works, it all contributes in a plan! Red has the tannins that have the anti-oxidants that white lacks, or something like that.
You may find the ingredients in that supplement are good sources of melatonin, which assists in sleep. You could test by just taking that, but why mess with what works in a supplement with other benefits?
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/23/18 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by Raw Kryptonite
If that hamstring keeps bothering you, go to an orthopedist and get some physical therapy. It isn't cheap, but after I lived with a torn bicep for almost a year, I wished I had done it earlier. Staying off of it might actually NOT be the thing to do. That may just build up scar tissue and make it even worse to deal with.


I forgot to mention, I'm on the verge of taking this advice. smile And you're right about staying off of it may not be the correct healing process, from recent online self-diagnosing, and how to treat it, And taking a couple weeks off not working out doesn't work either, because it's a routine that's too hard to break, even when I don't feel like it (sometimes being a habitual-type person works in my favor).

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Melatonin, eh? I hadn't thought of checking for a vitamin that promotes better sleep. From what I can tell, I'm already regularly eating several of the foods known for higher melatonin, but it looks like tart cherries are #1...and will be on my next grocery list.

I was wondering, with our daily diet and now a adding a supplement, if it was possible to accidentally overdose on vitamins? Everything I've read is that it's not (accidentally), because your body will only use what it needs.
Posted By: Raw Kryptonite

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 08/23/18 04:39 PM

I think it is possible, but would take some crazy amounts to do it. Surely you'd get sick first before real damage. Or uncomfortable for whatever reason, like muscle cramps when low on potassium or magnesium, but could also indicate salt being high.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 09/19/18 02:17 PM

Update...

Sleep: It breaks our hearts every night as our two Jack Russells begin to follow us to the bedroom and stop midways the hall. After 10 years sleeping in the bed with us (first dogs, mistakes made) they're no longer allowed into the bedroom. First week was rough (Ralphie constantly barking, Suzie scratching at the door) but they're getting use to blankets on the living room sofas. Master bedroom being remodeled (Victorian style) after I finish fumigating all the dog hair from under the furniture, nooks and crannies.

Hard decision but a good one (along with better sleeping schedule/habits). Sleep is infinitely better for both of us, what a difference it's making with how we feel in the morning.

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Hearing: Woke up the morning of Aug. 31st (my BD...51) almost completely deaf in my left ear (which use to be my good ear). And only four days after a 'Deaf' Leppard concert. Coincidence?

Actually, yes. I've known this was coming since seeing an audiologist about 10 years ago, and now I'm seeing one again (repeated all the sound room testing plus thorough checkup). I'm on oral steroids for another week but declined the steroid injection in my middle ear (almost 2 weeks out, needed to be injected within first 72 hours).

Mostly childhood issues, many severe ear infections, tubes in eardrums (after drilling holes to relieve fluid pressure), much scaring and even eardrum warpage. Other than terrible tinnitus in that ear now, my hearing has improved some, and I'll be tested again in a week. BTW, my hearing loss is more mid-frequency (voice range) then climbs back up with higher MHz (which is usually not the case with loud noise induced hearing loss). I can still hear the very low volume high-pitched coffee pot beeping.

Reliving my second adolescence the past few years has been great, but now I'm having to change some habits with how I enjoy music (mainly volume and limited headphone usage...wear only when out of the house) and that's changing me a little, maybe for the better (you can't be 20 forever). Wife's been a trooper with house music over television, but that's been the case for a while as we go days without turning on TV. We're enjoying the stereo more (never loud) to help keep me off headphones and that's been nice because music is something we both enjoy and our tastes mostly align (much more in common than not).

I'm now looking to wire and speaker the entire house from a single source.

I'm hopeful that the hearing in my left ear will continue to improve with good lifestyle over age, as other body parts have improved over the past 10 years (eyes...macular degeneration no longer detectable, nor is pre-diabetes in eyeballs) or have been completely fixed. wink
Posted By: EAF331 MadDog

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/23/18 08:33 AM

This is me now and in Jan 2017 in front of the same castle gate in Kyoto, Japan smile

I think it is a noticable change...

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Posted By: RSColonel_131st

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/23/18 10:57 AM

Wow jawdrop

You should be daaaaaamned proud of you! Awesome!
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 11/23/18 09:56 PM

Looks like you're aging in reverse, while getting back the masculine jawline. Those clothes in the left pic would swallow you up now. biggrin

Also, nice job with losing at a slower pace. Along with commitment it takes lots of patience as your dates indicate, the best way to do it.

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Just returned from the zoo (surprisingly open the day after Thanksgiving), trying to walk off what I'm eating these past couple of days. I'm probably not keeping up with my caloric intake as you can't out exercise a poor diet and I'm splurging right now.

I recently purchased a digital body fat caliper, but I'm in no hurry to check it.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/18 03:07 PM

Back to this end-of-the-year thread and my last update of the year...

I'm being so half-ass right now until the 1st, mostly keeping it under control but no progress at all (had a terrible November overall [diet and exercise], still correcting the damage). We already have a new calender for 2019 for 5ks and the BIG challenge...a 5-day 100 mile walk of Manhattan in the middle of March. NYC tried to kill me last time (kidneys), I want revenge.

If I were doing a New Year's Resolution it would be...

- Finally get back to my wedding day fighting weight (and we did a lot of fighting in those days so it makes sense). smile
- Bench press my bodyweight, set of 3 to 5.
- Do 3 to 5 clean pullups in a row (harder than you think).
- Finish all home improvement projects (I can't seem to get past about 85%-90% on anything...mostly finishing touches like moldings and painting).
- Make a *real* attempt at my game (I believe I have the knowledge now...especially the math).
- Leave the 80's behind. I've gotten about all I can from them, it's time to move on...to the 90's, and do it right this time (cue up Soundgarden). biggrin
- Finish a 5k within 40 minutes (if just once in my life, then I'll back off before I blow a knee). I think a sub-30 minute time is asking too much of this 51 year-old body.
- Naturally raise my T to over 500 (from 418 in August), also get a breakdown of my T-levels.
- Get completely off blood pressure meds.

I've just been through the ringer with end-of-year appointments (dental cleaning/xrays, eye checkup). Yesterday I had some moles and stuff cut off including something on my nose (a sensitive body part to get needles and razors).

2019 will be the year to accomplish all your goals, right?
Posted By: Chucky

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/18 03:58 PM

2019 will have to be a turnaround for me. My doctor said my BP is on the verge of requiring treatment if I don't do something. The coming year will be a challenge but I did it once.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/18 04:35 PM

That reminds me, I forget one (or two) items...to get completely off my BP meds.

Just yesterday after the dermatologist we went to CVS Pharmacy to find out if my BP meds are part of the current recall (been a bunch of these lately, not sure if local or national). Same med and maker that was mentioned on the news, but what I received wasn't in the recalled lot/batch. Still, I'd rather not have to deal with any medication.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 12/28/18 04:56 PM

You can do it gentlemen I have been on a plant based diet for 2 yrs.. I have fallen off of it ,but get right back on. Along with exercise 20 to 30 mins 3-5 times a week. My BP is back to normal.
Posted By: MarkG

Re: The SimHQ Diet and Training Thread - everyone feel free to join - 01/03/19 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by MarkG
I've just been through the ringer with end-of-year appointments (dental cleaning/xrays, eye checkup). Yesterday I had some moles and stuff cut off including something on my nose (a sensitive body part to get needles and razors).


I knew that if they kept snipping stuff off me that eventually something nasty would come back from the lab. frown

Got a call today...the bump they removed off my nose is called basal cell carcinoma. I think it's technically the C-word but it's not melanoma which I understand is the serious stuff. I'm totally proactive with my health so my dermatologist and I have stayed