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Posted By: Derk

Please show off your pit. - 08/17/07 11:24 AM

Hey there,
Last night I got the okay from my significant other to go ahead and build my very own helo simpit (in the attic, but hey!). I have a general picture in my head on what it should look like but i could sure use some inspiration. Therefor i want to invite all of you to post some pictures of yours and help me out.
Thanks for reading.




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Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/07 12:45 PM

Here ya go Mr. Monk...






And oodles of stuff can be found HERE

Building one is both a journey, and an adventure. It's taken me 5 years to get it juuuuuust right. Good luck!

Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/07 12:54 PM

Here's my AH-64D Apache Longbow pit in the process of contruction...



More in my flickr set here - http://flickr.com/photos/glyndavies/sets/72157601448095349/
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/07 01:59 PM

Here's my Comanche pit so far.
Still need to get it enclosed, though. (This is all temporary wood framing and support, so I can finalize the wiring and then dimension the metal framing and hull sections.)


The first pic's just a lamp test, with it sitting on the bench. (So you can see it lit up. \:D )









Posted By: Lewis-A2A

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/07 03:57 PM

holy moly Grizzly, thats some kit, although the first pic with its upside down right way up view had me confused for quite a while, my eyes kept going boss eyed looking at that one. What sim you plan on running with this?
Posted By: Thunderbolt56

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/07 06:22 PM

mmmmkay...Here's a few crappy pics of my li'l hide-away replete with mini-fridge and all:







The Keyboard arm is already mounted and I need to grab a couple pics with it in action.


TB
Posted By: willie777

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/07 11:43 PM

Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Here's my Comanche pit so far.
Still need to get it enclosed, though. (This is all temporary wood framing and support, so I can finalize the wiring and then dimension the metal framing and hull sections.)


The first pic's just a lamp test, with it sitting on the bench. (So you can see it lit up. \:D )











That is so cool!!!! I want one of those... Are the panels homemade, or otherwise? USAF Enlisted collar insignia on the pedals?
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/07 07:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Lewis-Shockwave
holy moly Grizzly, thats some kit, although the first pic with its upside down right way up view had me confused for quite a while, my eyes kept going boss eyed looking at that one. What sim you plan on running with this?

Thanks. It was designed around EECH. (The only decent Comanche sim IMHO.) Although, it's already in need of some minor changes, thanks to Arneh's new v.1.9 exe and some recently found pics of the real deal's MPD screens.

LOL. The original pic of the lamptest that I posted a while back had alot more junk on the bench. I just ask everyone to forgive all the clutter on the "Ceiling". \:D

Originally Posted By: willie777
That is so cool!!!! I want one of those... Are the panels homemade, or otherwise? USAF Enlisted collar insignia on the pedals?

Aw shucks ....Thanks again.
Sorry. Everything is homemade. I have been hacking away at it (one panel/piece at a time) for the last couple of years. I finally got enough of it done that this is the first time I've actually got it all put together.
If you want more details, I have been posting some of my progress here, in the Simpit Ideas thread of the EECH forum. (Be warned....That thread is getting epic in size.)

Yep. That's some old collar brass I pulled out of a drawer. I needed something to fill in where the Thrustmaster logo plates were. Considering they haven't been on my collar for 20 years, I thought they could use a new purpose. \:\) I did post more details on the rudder pedals (turned anti-torque pedals), in the Rudder Pedals thread but I guess it went unnoticed... Here you go. Anti-torque.pdf
Posted By: PaddyTB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/07 08:43 AM

Outstanding GizzlyT. Just oozes style.
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/07 10:32 AM

It didn't go unnoticed, thank you Griz...

Problem is getting hold of the old Thrustmaster pedals - they are like Rocking horse droppings and go for quite large amounts on eBay!

Cheers
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/07 12:27 PM

GrizzlyT I am humbled... And very impressed! Looks like I have a looooooog way to go STILL! Oy Veh!
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/07 05:35 PM

Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
GrizzlyT I am humbled... And very impressed!

Cool!....as long as it's motivational and not discouraging! \:\)

Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
Looks like I have a looooooog way to go STILL! Oy Veh!

LOL - I think the same thing about my stuff, when I look at some of the "big tin" cockpits that those Project Magenta users are building. (The amount of switch I/O alone, is mind numbing.)
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/07 06:13 PM

Thanks for showing us Griz - it is VERY motovational stuff! Very good to see what can be achieved with your level of dedication...

Thanks again and please keep the pics coming!

Cheers
Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/07 06:56 PM

Cool looking pit you got there!! Hopefully more projects of that magnitude will be build.
Posted By: Derk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/20/07 10:07 AM

Hey thanks Ghost, Grizzly and Thunderbolt! I really appreciate it!
Ghost: I see you are using X-keys, but what is that MFD you've got? Homebuild is it? Anyway, nice pit, you plan on building some side panels to counter distractions like movement and light from the sides or is it not much of a factor?
Grizzly, that is one awesome bit of kit! I think that is the most sophysticated pit I have seen on these forums yet, and it's all functional? You better be proud of it!
TB: That's a nice retreat you build yourself there. Thanks for the info on the keybord arm, I was just pondering on where to put it. Nice solution, thanks.

Mine will be a civi helo pit. I plan on modding my old X-45: extend the stick with a bit of a curve but i'd like to keep it short. There is an example on hovercontrol if you search the simpit piccies. From the throttle i plan on making a collective that is connected to the base of the throttle by a push rod and i want to mount the grip on the collective end so i can still use it's full functionallity. I also have a set of Saitek pedals that i'll be using (unmodded).
The collective will be build in a center pedestal wich eventually will also house some switches for lights, gear, etc. Comms, avionics and a fuel/start panel will come between the pedestal and the instrument panel. The panel itself will house a 15" tft for displaying the instruments with plenty spare room on it for whatever I will add in the future. That'll keep me plenty busy for the coming weeks-months.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/20/07 11:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Mr. Monk
Hey thanks Ghost, Grizzly and Thunderbolt! I really appreciate it!

You're very welcome. I hope it gives you some ideas!

Originally Posted By: Mr. Monk
...and it's all functional?

For the most part, yes.
The MFD/MPD screens are currently static images on light boxes but all the buttons work. Although, the center MFDs will be replaced with TFT LCD panels very soon thanks to mue's MFD exporter. Also, currently most of the warning lights in the top panel are static but thanks to Retro's comm server app I hope to get them responding to SIOC soon, too. (Not enough hours in the day.)

Originally Posted By: Mr. Monk
You better be proud of it!

Well, I was!.....Until I realized that I forgot the mini fridge. \:D
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/20/07 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Mr. Monk
Hey thanks Ghost, Grizzly and Thunderbolt! I really appreciate it!
Ghost: I see you are using X-keys, but what is that MFD you've got? Homebuild is it? Anyway, nice pit, you plan on building some side panels to counter distractions like movement and light from the sides or is it not much of a factor?


You're welcome, and, thank you. No not home made It's a CH Products MFP My ProThrottle and Throttle Quadrant are on drawer sliders that allow them to slide fore and aft so I can get into and out of this thing a lot easier. As for distractions, when I'm in "the zone" there are none ;\)
Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/22/07 02:01 AM

Grizzly, I have to say... Your pit is looking AMAZING!

I want one... bad \:\)

It is purely a work of love and craftsmanship.
I imagine it will be doubly good once you get the MFD's working. Now all you need is a 3 monitor Fresnel set up OR triple projectors.
Posted By: JG27_Phyxius

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/24/07 10:21 AM

my FW-190/D9 pit











~S~ Phyx
Posted By: Zebob

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/26/07 08:10 PM

Man, that is a really nice pit. Very well thought out. Nice one pal, thanks for sharing.
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/27/07 11:39 AM

I agree, Zebob. It's a good mix of function and form. But a quick question for JG27_Phyxius...the bottom screen would be the DeviceLink interface program by DDastardly (? sorry if the name is wrong) but what is the screen on top? It rings a dim bell for me but I can't recall where i've seen it before.
I'd appreciate the memory assist...It's too early on a Monday.
MudPuppy
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/27/07 02:42 PM

Very cool pit.
I would be interested in some cross-section (or early construction) pics of the hull, if you have any.
Or, some material specs and maybe some thoughts/comments on the hull construction, specifically.

That's my next big hurdle and I very much like your end result. Any info would be appreciated. \:\)
Posted By: {S}DickDastardly

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/27/07 04:58 PM

Some great shots in this thread, guys: the craftsmanship on GrizzlyT's pit never ceases to amaze me - wonderful stuff m8! Loved the FW-190 pit too Phyxius, but I noticed you're running an old version of my Spitfire gauges in there. Check out the Devicelink thread in the IL2 Community Help forum for the latest version (which now has a proper artificial horizon). Alternatively, you might prefer to use my BF-109K set which are much more similar to the FW-190's gauges.

As for my own pit, I'm currently working on a major upgrade from around 90 buttons and switches to nearer 250, but here are a few camera-phone piccies of the old version running EECH:









(The bottom 40% or so of each photo is my physical cockpit with a TFT displaying UDPSpeed and _mue's MFDs, whilst the external view is a 6ft image projected onto a screen a few feet further back). I'm using the Comanche set with the Apache in the last pic, as only the basic flight data is currently exported for that heli (though its MFDs work fine). The Havoc, Hokum and Comanche sets, on the other hand, are around 95% functional now -with working lights, gauges, RWR and MFDs (including FLIR/DTV), all exported from the sim to another PC. For info on the software involved, keep an eye on this thread in the EECH forum, where I'll hopefully be releasing new versions in the next few days.
Cheers,
DD
Posted By: DanTheSasquatch

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/28/07 04:04 AM

Sweet pits guys! Mine is as simples (yet effective) as can be. A Saitek X52 a desk. However, Im taking an engineering class this year, and we get to design and build a peice of furniture. So I'm still thinking of ideas but I think Ive got my general idea down now, just a matter of waiting for the project to come around (Then I gotta do lots of sketches, an engineer logbook, and build it in computer software, then build it) gonna be a simple pit. although after seeing that FW-190 pit I think I could make it more than like a chair and have my gear embedded into it with maybe like an F-16 exterior \:\) Im still thinkin up some ideas. but after that project Ill be sure to post in here \:\) (maybe another 18 weeks for all I know though, but ts only a semester long class, so 18 weeks max)
Posted By: JG27_Phyxius

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/04/07 09:44 AM

mudpuppy, the top screen is virtual pit. i dont use the top screen any more, i just swap programs on the bottom screen now. 3 was just overkill, and the top screen is a little hard to see from such an angle.

Phyx
Posted By: IvanK

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/05/07 01:42 AM

My little pit. Started off as a basic Ackers Barnes pit then grew. Seat is meant to represent SJU5/MB10. The whole thing on rollers

Sub woofer in base and back though I have yet to get these to really operate well.

Posted By: schreinerschmid

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/06/07 05:30 AM

Hello
That´s what i see at home.



A short movie :

http://schreinerschmid-web.homepage.t-online.de/helmcamera.wmv
Cheers

Posted By: Andrew

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/31/07 10:06 PM

Some pic of the "Silvercan", my almost two year on going cockpit project, for inspiring Mr.Monk and/or other pit builders:





Bye!
A.
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/31/07 10:58 PM

Andrew you have to host your photos on a site like http://www.photobucket.com or http://www.imageshack.com

My wife and I are finally moving into a house in a few more months and not only will I have a spot to set up a home theater but a spot to have a sim theater as well among the HT furniture and stuff. I plan to use some USB keyboard encoders or an card like Leo's to have a completely generic set up for a number of flight sims and race sims. I really need to talk to Grizzly here down the road about collectives since Black Shark is coming! For now I stick to my really generic set up and will try to modify my logitech wingman stick into a custom control box.
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/01/07 01:35 AM

This is mine:




It's an almost entirely CH Products setup including the desk. The equipment stretches around me in a sort of semi-circle. When I want to drive, I move my chair to the left side where the wheel is, rotate my monitor, and I'm driving. I may add an additional 2 CH-MFPs in the future. Haven't decided yet.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/01/07 08:27 AM

Very cool setup there Corsair!
You should forward the pic to CH Products. Maybe they'll comp you some free stuff, for being their un-official poster boy! \:D

I'm guessing that strategically placed photo of you and the little women is there to keep you from being banished to the man cave, like the rest of us? "No honey, it's furniture....really!" ("Wink, wink...nudge, nudge...say no more.")

What's with the dualing trackballs? And what is that circular controller, on the left???
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/02/07 01:21 AM

Thank you for the kind words! It's not in the same league as your drop dead awesome Comanche 'pit, but I may think of building something when I have more room. Speaking of room, I'm already in my man cave \:\) It was actually part of our agreement before we moved in together. "Honey, I have a cockpit. Ow! No, I don't mean you! No, I mean for flying simulators. I need to have some space for it so I need a den." So I have my own room (which I call my "office" because it sounds like I may actually do something productive in there) and it has my bookshelves and perhaps soon other aviation-releated stuff.

I'm on CH's forum all the time and I've submitted the pic there. I don't think it will get me anything free given that I seem pretty willing to keep sending them my money so they know they have me hooked and reeled in. A couple people over there have commented on it.

The dual trackballs are because I tend to prefer them over mice. The one on the left is what I use for my getting around when I'm using the computer like a computer. The one on the right is for radar cursor manipulation or similar stuff so I can keep my hand on the stick. I also have a Razer Copperhead which isn't in that pick for FPS.

That's also what that circular thing is for. It's a small keyboard which has been designed for FPS games. Called the Wolf Claw (sometimes called the Wolf King Warrior), it is a driverless 2nd keyboard that is optimized for one-handed use. I used to be an arrow-key driver until games got too complicated and there were too many buttons. I can't do the wasd thing very well because they are not lined up like the arrow keys I'm used to. On this keyboard, those keys are perfectly lined up which is more natural to me. But your number keys are in an arc over your hand and there are many large buttons for your thumb to bounce around on. I really can't play fps games without it to be honest, I'm that spoiled by it. Does it make me any better? Not really I don't think - but I do find I'm less of a klutz and generally less frustrated.

One more CH MFP panel will go where that keyboard is, I'm just not done the little graphic I'm making for it so I didn't want to just have a blank one there. Overall I'm pretty happy and I didn't need to "build" anything, just assemble it. When we get a house together though, I think I will be building a modified Akers-Barnes pit which will have dimensions to hold all of my MFP's and maybe even more of them.

I can't remember if you have pics of yours here, or just in the EECH thread. If not, you need to show yours because it is nothing short of amazing. That's one of my favourite pits I've ever seen.
Posted By: mailman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/25/07 10:39 PM

 Quote:
Honey, I have a cockpit. Ow! No, I don't mean you!


Awe bless \:D

All of your cockpits are awesome!

Regards

Mailman
Posted By: GoGamer.com - Jason

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/01/07 01:45 AM

Mine is going through a retro-fit at the moment, but I have a whole page devoted to it. The pics are quite dated now, but the pit is still part of my set up.

http://777AVG.com/cockpit

Jason
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/02/07 01:21 AM

That's nice. It even works with a yolk too.
Posted By: F19_CoNa

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/02/07 03:13 PM

My compact generic simpit.
The monitor is a 17" touchscreen, so I can still push any switches that I don't have irl.
But I manage well with over 100 devices modelled...so far.



Stowed away
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/02/07 08:08 PM

I like how the monitor can come over when you are not flying. That's really cool. You have the same flatscreen as mine too I noticed. Having the secondary monitor as a touch screen is an interesting approach as well. Does it also pan with your TrackIR?
Posted By: F19_CoNa

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/02/07 09:20 PM

Yes having it mounted on an monitor arm makes it much easier to move around
for the perfect position, depending on what you are doing.
As i have it in a corner there is quite alot of space unused otherwise.

No, the 2d cockpit does not move at all, so it really esy to point with your finger at
any button. The ATC commands are also just a finger push away. That's very neat if you don't have VoxATC.

When I'm flying il-2 or LockOn I don't use the buttons, even though I could.
It's labeled for FSX, so that's why.
I use touchbuddy in those cases. It's soo good for that.
If I could have used it for FSX I would probably never have built all these buttons....
probably...
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/04/07 03:22 PM

Here are some pics of my little project, a fullsize F-16 sim.







All needed switches are fully functional in Falcon:AF.
Also all lamps except the CautionPanel are working already, and I have to 5,6" LCDs behind the MFDs which display the instruments (until I implemented all the servo and motor stuff for working analogue gauges).

Although not fully finished, I'm already thinking about re-designing my other pit - a small racing seat construction - into a more generic cockpit, which I would like to use for MSFS flying (it's hard to do helicopter flying with a force-sensor stick)...

greetings
michi
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/05/07 03:26 AM

Seriously, totally speechless. People that are able to do this amaze and impress me.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/05/07 10:41 AM

Wow!!! Very, VERY cool!
I've seen several pics of guys that have built the shell but they leave alot of the panels "drawn in". To see one this complete and functional, is a real treat!



Wait a minute!.....Michi???
Are you the same programmer that created FAST? (The Falcon-SIOC bridge.)
If so, I kneel before you, humbled by your greatness. Your name has been mentioned, as just the guy we need to talk to....

By "we", I mean the small group of rotor-head pit builders, that are designing pits around EECH. (My Comanche pit is posted above.)
I don't know if you follow EECH's development but one of our devs (Retro) created a shared memory/data export utility called CommServer. It's currently being used for exporting the data to UDPSpeed gauge sets. (See DickDastardly's post above.) However, it should be able to work well with SIOC, too....if someone could figure out how to make the bridge. Unfortunately, my/our skills lie in fabrication, not programming. And most of our devs are not pit builders, so their interests are on other things.

We could REALLY use your help with it. I, for one, would love to be able to have my upper panel's warning lights and stealth indicator responding correctly.
Is there any chance that FAST could be modified, to work with EECH? (EEST maybe??? Enemy-Engaged-Sioc-Transfer.)
There was even talk of collectively paying someone to do it, so if money is a motivator.... I'm not above begging, bribing, or blo....uhhhhh,... well, at least begging or bribing. \:D
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/05/07 02:32 PM

Grizz

I MIGHT be able to help here... I've just finished a VB6 exe that connects to the EECH CommServer and grabs the values out for an Altimeter on another PC.


Simpit flickr set

Send me a PM with what kit the warning lights are connected to please. I'll have a look when I have finished work.

Edit: Mmmm might take me a while to wrap my head round SIOC sorry Griz - I will download Michi's FAST and see if that gives me any clues...

Cheers
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/06/07 06:37 AM

 Originally Posted By: GlynD
I MIGHT be able to help here...

That would be great! (I didn't know you were a programmer, too.)

 Originally Posted By: GlynD
Edit: Mmmm might take me a while to wrap my head round SIOC sorry Griz - I will download Michi's FAST and see if that gives me any clues...

Yeah...That's the rub, isn't it? Retro knows how to work with EECH, FuFunka knows how to work with SIOC, and Michi probably knows how to connect them together. (Me?... I barely understand any of it. ) If we could just get the three of them together!!!

As far as the "kit", there isn't anything yet. Not until I know it can work.
The idea is to have a networked 2nd PC (using mue's MFD hack) to run MaxiVista without the UPDSpeed overlays and put the MFDs on small LCDs. Then, (using Commserver and EEST?) control an OpenCockpits Master Board off that same 2nd PC (Or a 3rd PC if needed), to properly trigger it's inputs, through SIOC.
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/06/07 08:17 AM

 Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Wait a minute!.....Michi???
Are you the same programmer that created FAST? (The Falcon-SIOC bridge.)

ahem, *cough* *cough*, humm.. yes, that would be me..
 Quote:
If so, I kneel before you, humbled by your greatness. Your name has been mentioned, as just the guy we need to talk to....

you may rise now, unworthy! :-D
 Quote:
By "we", I mean the small group of rotor-head pit builders, that are designing pits around EECH. (My Comanche pit is posted above.)
I don't know if you follow EECH's development but one of our devs (Retro) created a shared memory/data export utility called CommServer. It's currently being used for exporting the data to UDPSpeed gauge sets. (See DickDastardly's post above.) However, it should be able to work well with SIOC, too....if someone could figure out how to make the bridge.

I read the whole CommServer thread with great interest, also your's, Kimchock's and Dick's cockpit progress reports. Actually, I'm in planning stage for a multifunction heli pit and will borrow quite some of your ideas ;-)
 Quote:
We could REALLY use your help with it. I, for one, would love to be able to have my upper panel's warning lights and stealth indicator responding correctly.
Is there any chance that FAST could be modified, to work with EECH? (EEST maybe??? Enemy-Engaged-Sioc-Transfer.)

Absolutely... I remember, that some time ago someone of the team contacted me - but I don't remember, if I really sent the sourcecode as promised *g*.
FAST is really, really simple. I haven't checked EEComm's protocol, but there should only small modifications be necessary to work with EEC.

@GlynD: The sourcecode is not available (yet) for download. Please send me an email to fast AT f16simulator.net and I'll send you the code, so you can have a look at it.

As written above, it should only be necessary to modify the data extraction function and define the Vars to use in SIOC.

I haven't had a look at the code for some monthes now, and there definitely are some bugs, but I think we should be able to work them out.

greetings
michi
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/06/07 01:24 PM

I love this place. A place where we can come together, share ideas and learn from each other. Thanks guys!
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/06/07 07:39 PM

 Originally Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Absolutely... I remember, that some time ago someone of the team contacted me - but I don't remember, if I really sent the sourcecode as promised *g*.
FAST is really, really simple. I haven't checked EEComm's protocol, but there should only small modifications be necessary to work with EEC.

YES!!!!!
OMG! You just made my year!
I'm so friggin' happy I could...............oops, I think I just did.
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/08/07 10:06 PM

Grizz - I do stuff for work in VB6 (not C or C++ unfortunately)...

Michi what is the code written in please, as if its C/C++ or .Net I probably wont be able understand it?

Cheers
Posted By: El Hefe

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/09/07 09:36 PM

 Originally Posted By: Michi Hirczy
Here are some pics of my little project, a fullsize F-16 sim.







All needed switches are fully functional in Falcon:AF.
Also all lamps except the CautionPanel are working already, and I have to 5,6" LCDs behind the MFDs which display the instruments (until I implemented all the servo and motor stuff for working analogue gauges).

Although not fully finished, I'm already thinking about re-designing my other pit - a small racing seat construction - into a more generic cockpit, which I would like to use for MSFS flying (it's hard to do helicopter flying with a force-sensor stick)...

greetings
michi


WOW

that's all I can say
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/09/07 10:05 PM

 Originally Posted By: GlynD
Grizz - I do stuff for work in VB6 (not C or C++ unfortunately)...

Michi what is the code written in please, as if its C/C++ or .Net I probably wont be able understand it?

Cheers

I think you will like it - it's VB6 \:D

greetings
michi
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/11/07 10:59 PM

Michi - dropped you an email for the source code please?

There is a small fly in the ointment with CommServer however. Retro very kindly supplied me with a list of IDs that the CommServer uses for the various helos - problem is each helo has it's own set and there are major differences between the helos!

For instance if you are in the Havoc and ask the CommServer for the value of the "R/502" variable you will get the "Weapons Management Left hand outer pylon green" status back. Whereas in the Comanche this is returning info on the "Left engine Ignition", for the Hokum it will return the value for the "Left engine fire" and the Apache is set to the same as the Comanche but apparently not all values are being exported...

The problem will be when you want to fly in different helos and have a generic pit wired up to "EEST" (nice one Grizz ). Every time you jump in a different helo you will have to let the software know which helo you are in, otherwise incorrect lights will be coming on or wrong data will be returned.

I imagine it would be a major job to standardise the data coming into/out of the CommServer! It will probably be easier to have a "helo switch", this would allow EEST to adjust to what values it is expecting, if you swap helos...

Cheers
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/12/07 06:32 AM

Couldn't that already be handled, just by using different .ssi files, in SIOC?
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/12/07 10:18 AM

 Originally Posted By: GlynD
Michi - dropped you an email for the source code please?

Done (spamfilter caught your mail, sorry)

 Quote:
problem is each helo has it's own set and there are major differences between the helos!

The problem will be when you want to fly in different helos and have a generic pit wired up to "EEST" (nice one Grizz ). Every time you jump in a different helo you will have to let the software know which helo you are in, otherwise incorrect lights will be coming on or wrong data will be returned.

I imagine it would be a major job to standardise the data coming into/out of the CommServer! It will probably be easier to have a "helo switch", this would allow EEST to adjust to what values it is expecting, if you swap helos...

Sounds like a possible solution to me.
Kind of that is already implemented in FAST, where you can choose between AF and BMS - this just would have to be extended to HAVOC/APACHE/whatever and the appropriate part in the code adapted.
Nevertheless, the user would have to jump out of the sim, change the datamodel in the GUI and hop back in.

 Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Couldn't that already be handled, just by using different .ssi files, in SIOC?

Yes, this could be the other approach.
EEST would just do a 1-to-1 transfer of the data, with a fixed mapping of CommserverVAR <-> SiocVAR without any "processing".
You could have a rotary switch in your pit, connected to IOCard's inputs, where you select the actual airframe, and in SIOC process the incoming data dependend on this switch's position.

Sounds even better to me, than my older approach...

greetings
michi
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/17/07 11:45 PM

Thanks for the code Michi - fab stuff! I understood most of it - I've only just got into using the Winsock controller for my gauge project.

The F4Lib module and SimData class I will need to see working to better get my head around...

Sometime after Xmas, I think I will order the Master card from OpenCockpits and give this a go. Do you know if the Master card has the same "3 switches on" limit as Leo Bodnars USB controller please?

Cheers
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/18/07 01:52 PM

 Originally Posted By: GlynD
Thanks for the code Michi - fab stuff! I understood most of it - I've only just got into using the Winsock controller for my gauge project.


Great to hear, that my code is readable to others, too ;-)

 Quote:
The F4Lib module and SimData class I will need to see working to better get my head around...

FULL ACK ;-). Even I have to rethink it, when I haven't worke some time on the code *g*

I'll give you a short overview, maybe this can clear thinks up a bit:

SimData is easy ;-): The main variable is
 Code:
Private siocIndex(500) As Long
It's simply an array of LongInteger numbers, that represent the SIOC vars 1-500.
So, i.e. siocIndex(23) will hold the value of SIOC's VAR0023.

It's quite hard to remember, which index in the array represents which data from Falcon ;-)
That's, when F4Lib.bas comes into play *g*:
 Code:
Public Enum SIOC_index

just maps a meaningful name to the appropriate number, ie.
 Code:
 ' altimeter data
 mAltBaro = 20 ' // 0 - 80000
 mAltRadar = 21 ' // usually 0 - 1500 ' feet
 mAltSetting = 22 ' // altimeter setting (2992)
 mKias = 23 ' // 0 - 850
 mMach = 24 ' // 0 - 2.0, convert from float to int and back!

That would be the place for you, if you want to change the names to the data that you get out of EHComms.
The rest of the enums and Data Models is Falcon specific and usually you should not need to keep it anyway.

The most important changes would be in SimData.
FillFlightData holds the code that puts the data from Falcon into the different indizes of siocIndex[]. I think, one example should explain the rest (I commented each line)
 Code:
With FDAF  // tells me to use the AF DataModel
      actualAlt = (-1) * CLng(.ShipDown)  // actualAlt is a temp var, .ShipDown is the value in F4's shared memory
      If actualAlt < 0 Then
        altBaro = actualAlt  // altBaro is the same as siocIndex(mAltBaro) or siocIndex(20) (see example above)
        altRadar = 0  // same as altBaro
      Else
        altBaro = actualAlt
        altRadar = actualAlt ' // N/A in AF
      End If

In your code, you would substitue .ShipDown with the needed value from EHComm.
I don't know EHC's data structure, but I if it's data is also ordered in arrays, it would even be easier to just say
 Code:
for i=0 to 499
   siocIndex(i) = ehcdata(i)
next i

as discussed some posts earlier. So you wouldn't even need the "Enum SIOC_Index" part, just send EHCs data to SIOC in a 1:1 mapping.
If you don't mind, I'll have a look at EHCs data structure, maybe I will find some "quick and dirty" solution ;-)
 Quote:
Sometime after Xmas, I think I will order the Master card from OpenCockpits and give this a go. Do you know if the Master card has the same "3 switches on" limit as Leo Bodnars USB controller please?

AFAIK, no (I don't use IOCards for inputs, just for outputs). And IIRC, there shouldn't be a problem on Leo's parts with diodes in the matrix.

HTH and greetings
michi
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/19/07 09:03 PM

 Originally Posted By: Michi Hirczy
If you don't mind, I'll have a look at EHCs data structure, maybe I will find some "quick and dirty" solution ;-)


Well, that's the only part that I fully understood but it looks like we're making progress!!!

As always....Thanks a million!
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/20/07 08:25 AM

 Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Well, that's the only part that I fully understood but it looks like we're making progress!!!

As always....Thanks a million!

NP...
I tried to contact Retro through PM but I'm not sure, if he got it.
If you are able to communicate with him - maybe he could contact me through email:
fast AT f16simulator.net

I'd have some questions about his datastructure.

greetings
michi
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/21/07 12:10 PM

Sorry for the delay my main PC has hard drive problems - retro gave me a couple of links to stuff in this thread

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2136680&fpart=18

(third post down)...

Does this help?

Cheers
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/21/07 12:50 PM

 Originally Posted By: GlynD
Sorry for the delay my main PC has hard drive problems - retro gave me a couple of links to stuff in this thread

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2136680&fpart=18

(third post down)...

Does this help?

Oh yes!! That's exactly, what I was looking for!

Thx a lot!

Now that I see the IDs of the values, the solution of 1:1 mapping of EECHServer : SIOC variables looks even more advanced to me. This way, no changes to the code of the transfer utility would have to be made, if anything inside EECHServer changes.

GlynD, could we do some code sharing? Could you send me your code, which you use to get the data from EECHServer?

greetings
michi
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/21/07 02:09 PM

Emailing it to you now chap.

It's not quite as advanced as yours... \:\)

Cheers
Posted By: Timothy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/23/07 01:01 AM

Is that F-16 pit made out of wood or metal?

Where did you get the switches at?
Posted By: Hack157th

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/24/07 06:59 PM

If anyone is intrerested in some F-16 pit parts, I have a bunch of panels, some with switches for sale.
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/25/07 09:44 AM

 Originally Posted By: Timothy
Is that F-16 pit made out of wood or metal?

It's wood. Just some strengtheners are metal.

 Quote:
Where did you get the switches at?

Most of them are standard switches you can get from your local electronics store. Special toggle switches have been aquired off ebay. The rotary-caps are from Biohazard, a guy from Belgium.

If you're interested in F-16 pitbuilding, http://www.viperpits.org is _THE_ source for you!

greetings
michi
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/07/08 09:46 PM

Re-routed some cables to clean things up, added 12 switches to the left aft of the PT...
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/08/08 01:01 AM

Great Pit! I like the utility of it. I'm starting to think that good cable routing is like keeping your sideburns well trimmed. \:\)

MudPuppy
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/15/08 10:34 PM

Heres a copy and paste of a previous pit whoring out LOL:

Alright not the best pics the decent camera is out at our boat but I got an old (ancient) floppy disk digi camera!

Here we go simpit in current config:

From the backside


Side View


Trackir Close up


Rudder Close up


Stick Mount Close up


Headset Track clip pro (only comms through headset, all other sound 5.1)


Close up with projector on


Back up of room size (8wx10L screen on shorter wall)


Projector on opposite mounted


I'd like to build a genric simpit enclosure in the future with buttons/trim wheels/possibly guages all built in! Hope this helps!

EDIT: New additions include a buttkicker gamer and a Z5500 logitech speaker set.
Posted By: El Hefe

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/17/08 01:21 AM

nice pit flatlander!
Posted By: Pretzel

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/17/08 06:10 AM

My F/A-18C pit..Work in progress.




Posted By: Chivas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/08 07:21 PM



The throttle base rotates out of the way to the left. The Joystick shelf attached to the Keyboard shelf slides in and out to suit and all the way out for removal. The throttle and joystick are Velcro'd down. Its a work in progress.

The desk is just some cut out plywood covered in a cheap wood flooring with file cabinets used for legs.
Posted By: Triggerhappy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/23/08 01:03 PM

 Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Here's my Comanche pit so far.
Still need to get it enclosed, though. (This is all temporary wood framing and support, so I can finalize the wiring and then dimension the metal framing and hull sections.)


The first pic's just a lamp test, with it sitting on the bench. (So you can see it lit up. \:D )












I drool over the simple yet beautifull and realistic way you have buildt your pit GrizzlyT..! Almost to the point of dehydration to be honest..! c",)
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/23/08 01:59 PM

 Originally Posted By: Triggerhappy
I drool over the simple yet beautifull and realistic way you have buildt your pit GrizzlyT..! Almost to the point of dehydration to be honest..! c",)

For god's sake, someone get this man a drink!!!
And while you're at it, I'll take a triple tequila....neat. \:D

Seriously, thanks to all, for the kind words. Although, if this keeps up my head may get too big, to fit into my helmet.
(Like some huge "bobble-head" doll. )

As is typical of late, progress has been slow (This time, I'll use the holidays as an excuse.) but hopefully, I'll have some new pics to post soon!
Since the last set, I've elevated the platform, started on the electronics cabinet, made a fresnel housing, and (just recently) acquired some aluminum extrusion, to start on the frame.

.........never enough hours, in the day!
Posted By: Panther

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/26/08 08:27 PM

Nothing fancy, just a few pieces of wood and nails:













It was completely overhauled a few weeks back. Several modification that shorten it, added more shelves, and eliminated the majority of the wiring from being exposed. I can not stand a bundle of wires, plus I have a cat that has a cord chewing problem.
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/26/08 11:14 PM

That's awesome. Really impressive. I like the little stands you have for your MFP's. How do you have them attached to the stand? Is it velcro or something? How do you get out of that setup, does the chair just move back? And I guess lastly, what is the system you use for those instruments off to the right. Is that F4Glass or something? I love how they are laid out in a pattern that mimics the aircraft.

Really, that's is so amazing.
Posted By: Panther

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/26/08 11:30 PM

 Originally Posted By: Corsair8X
That's awesome. Really impressive. I like the little stands you have for your MFP's. How do you have them attached to the stand? Is it velcro or something? How do you get out of that setup, does the chair just move back? And I guess lastly, what is the system you use for those instruments off to the right. Is that F4Glass or something? I love how they are laid out in a pattern that mimics the aircraft.

Really, that's is so amazing.



I used velcro to attach the MFP's. To get out is the hard part, I usually just stand up, step on the seat and step out. The seat doesn't move back, since it's sitting on two spars and plus the machine that runs the game is behind the seat. The program to send information to that computer (seperate from the main one) is F4Glass. The actually display program is Falcongauges, and you can set them up the way you want, hence almost like the real deal.
Posted By: Ripcord

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/26/08 11:33 PM

It like he has used little metal brackets to screw them into the MDF panel - I also like this set up, because it supports different kinds of airplane pits. Panther, nice job. You are a real life F-16 pilot, are you not?

Ripcord
Posted By: Panther

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/26/08 11:47 PM

 Originally Posted By: Ripcord
You are a real life F-16 pilot, are you not?

Ripcord


No, a maintainer with some time flying.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/04/08 04:11 PM

I thought it was time, for a couple new pics.

For those that have been following the build...I have changed plans, from my original idea, and have opted to continue building it on the old wood base. Originally, I was going to replace it with a modular, welded, metal frame but time and costs are proving to be too prohibitive.
It will still be fully enclosed, as modular as possible, and with just a metal framed "roll cage", to hang everything off of.

So to that end, I have raised up the platform and braced the underside.
It didn't need to be done but it made everything line up easier and gave it a feel of climbing up into it.



I also beefed up the framing that the front dash was mounted to.



As you can see, I started work on the electronics cabinet, too. The KE72 & USBKeys are mounted to the back. The USBOutputs board, for controlling the indicators, will mount under the monitor. The PCs, power supplies, amps, etc., will go in the cabinet. The monitor is mounted on a floating plate, on the threaded rods. That way I can lift and tilt it into final position.



The graphics???.......well, that was just for the fun of it! \:\)

Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/04/08 05:26 PM

I've been working on a new fresnel mount, too.
I wanted something sturdy but lightweight enough to hang off the monitor's face.

- It all started with a couple of pieces of 1" thick, plastic/fiberglass honeycomb panel, to make the front and back plates. (They came from a shipping box, for some machine parts.)
- They were gapped and tied together with the four 3/4" square rods of extruded aluminum.
- Their cut-outs were lined with aluminum L-stock, to clean up the edges.
- The inner walls were .032" aluminum sheet metal, riveted together and then lined with black "flocked" paper, to eliminate stray light.
- The lens was held in with small aluminum strips, screwed to the L-stock.
- The TrackIR mounting legs were removed and it was hard mounted to the face.
- On the back of the rear plate, the cut-out was trimmed with foam rubber strips, to fill the gap and cushion it, from the monitor's face.
- Removeable nylon/velcro straps hold it in position.

The final result was very light weight and it holds the lens flat and square!
All that remains is to tie the edges of the front faceplate into the enclosure....eventually!




Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/04/08 06:12 PM

Love what you did with the TrackIR mount very cool always great to see your pits progress.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/11/08 02:50 PM

hi all.
i am a helicopter enthusiast, spawned from playing battlefield vietnam and battlefield 2.
for the most part i have been flexing my helicopter through a mouse/keyboard/xbox controller 's' setup.

i wanted to go to the next level of flying which is to have full helo controls, (i.e. cyclic, collective, and rudder)
i just completed my home made sim-pit

people like pictures of course..










I like to know if there is any helicopter clubs to join, i would like to improve my helicopter combat flying skills, its taking me a lil more effort to use a cyclic and coordinate using the rudder and collective...
but im sure in time i will be better in time, plus i like to fly with other helicopter pilots online!
Posted By: VanUSN

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/11/08 03:36 PM

 Originally Posted By: Pretzel
My F/A-18C pit..Work in progress.






Wow! Good looking pit. However...

1. Where'd you pick up an ejection seat and the combiner glass? (That stuff isn't cheap, $30,000+ for the glass alone.)
2. What good are they going to be to you in a sim? (Can't display the HUD in the combiner unless you have an actual HUD, I'm pretty sure you won't be really ejecting yourself either.)

Which leads to my last question:

3. Are you really making this pit or is it from an actual military simulator? If you're building it yourself, it looks awesome so far. I'm just curious as to your method of parts procurement and reasons to have those parts in your sim when they would be pretty much useless (you can sit in the ejection seat, but an office or gaming chair would be much more comfortable).
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/11/08 08:18 PM

^Some people go for an authentic feel man, you have the choice to go with your own ideas, but if I built that bad @ss pit, an office or gaming chair sure hell won't come near it. Thats one nice piece of kit and maybe I'm taking your questions the wrong way but the way you ask them comes off a bit strange. Who cares if your not ejecting yourself or not going to have a real HUD its the builders decision and a good looking decision in this case whether operational or not.
Posted By: VanUSN

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/11/08 09:11 PM

I'm not denying or disagreeing that the pit looks awesome, it does. I'm more curious as to why he's got a $33,000 piece of glass that doesn't do anything except interfere with your view and a $???,??? (uncomfortable) ejection seat when you could rig up a gaming chair to look pretty close to the real thing for a lot cheaper. US Navy F/A-18 simulators have all that stuff because they acutally use it, so I was asking (more of a joke) if it was being made for the Navy or if was actually for his PC games. What I find "strange" is that people are getting gov't contracted military parts for their home computers. Last time I checked, Rockwell Collins and Martin Baker weren't in the business of selling their parts to the everyday consumer.
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/12/08 12:26 PM

I can possibly understand why he is building it like that - for whatever reason most of us will never get to fly the real thing so a PC game is about as close as we will get! If you have a realistic 'pit it goes someway to the "suspension of reality" while in the game - enhancing the game and the experience while playing. Giving a feeling of being in the real thing without the price tag/danger/years of training etc.

Plus there is the satisfaction of having produced a piece of work that deserves to be respected and admired due to the technical expertise and dedication of the builder - the wow factor! Pit building is a hobby, however in many hobbies you encounter people that want to be at the top of their tree and others that are happy with compromises. I'm not saying either end of the scale is right just whatever suits the individual and their motivation, time and budget...

They may start out as hobbyists and move onto commercial work later, again up to the individual.

A lot of the stuff used by F-16 pit builders is copied from the real thing by incredibly talented craftsmen - just pop over to http://www.viperpits.org to see what I mean. Someone will get hold of a real part and then find a way to reproduce it or they may build it from scratch. You get a reasonable copy without the aforementioned cost - sometimes it is still expensive but more in the range of mere mortals! \:\)

At the end of the day it is "horses for courses"! If you are happy with your pit that's cool - some people will go to further lengths to fulfil their pit building desire and well that's cool too!

Cheers
Posted By: VanUSN

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/12/08 03:26 PM

I understand the desire for the realism factor, pride in your final product, etc. I also know that there are very good replicas of actual aircraft parts out there. I tip my hat to those individuals that put in the time and effort to create such awesome pits, it takes dedication and hard work. I've just never seen a sim pit with the actual glass in the forward windscreen or what appears to be an actual ejection seat except in a military training sim. So to me, that picture is either from somewhere that makes military training sim pits, there is some kind of replication wizzard that can make VERY realistic parts, or someone is getting parts using less than legal means. Are people willing to go that far just to make their pit more realistic?
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/12/08 03:31 PM

In a word, to answer your question YES <--- So don't click on that link if you don't want to see some of the most incredible craftsmanship I've ever seen. ;\)
Posted By: VanUSN

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/12/08 10:20 PM

Oh, I clicked the link, that was an awesome piece of work! The pic of the F-18 pit is a little blurry but that seat looks like a REAL ejection seat (not fabricated) and the Combiner glass appears to be an actual Combiner (not pieces of glass in a wood frame). Like I said the picture is blurry, it just threw some red flags for me. Anyway, great looking pits guys. Good luck with your building!
Posted By: El Hefe

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/14/08 05:32 AM

 Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
In a word, to answer your question YES <--- So don't click on that link if you don't want to see some of the most incredible craftsmanship I've ever seen. ;\)


holy... cow...

that's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen \:D
Posted By: Pretzel

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/16/08 07:40 AM

 Originally Posted By: Flamedog
 Originally Posted By: Pretzel
My F/A-18C pit..Work in progress.



Wow! Good looking pit. However...

1. Where'd you pick up an ejection seat and the combiner glass? (That stuff isn't cheap, $30,000+ for the glass alone.)
2. What good are they going to be to you in a sim? (Can't display the HUD in the combiner unless you have an actual HUD, I'm pretty sure you won't be really ejecting yourself either.)

Which leads to my last question:

3. Are you really making this pit or is it from an actual military simulator? If you're building it yourself, it looks awesome so far. I'm just curious as to your method of parts procurement and reasons to have those parts in your sim when they would be pretty much useless (you can sit in the ejection seat, but an office or gaming chair would be much more comfortable).


Hello Flamedog,
To tell the truth everything in the picture is a replica. All except for the ejection ring handle on the seat. Even the stickers on the side of the head box are reproductions.
As you know F-18 parts are extremely hard to get ahold of so I making most of them. I like to say
"Someone made it. Why cant you?"

Yes, Im making this pit for myself and the hud works off a overhead projector reflection. Im amazed that it works too.

Again Yes, The ejection seat is very uncomfurtable just like the real thing. So I made 2 differnt seat pans. One for gaming which houses the tactile sound transducer (BASS) and thicker pad, and a replica pan for show.

HUD: Not glass but Lexan, when cut gives frosted edges just like the real thing.


Mock panel...Gonna make "C" and "F" model. I have all the military switches and DDI bezels.


My center stick. Made completly from steel. Replica grip also.


/O Salute Pretzel


Posted By: Pretzel

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/16/08 08:01 AM

 Originally Posted By: Flamedog
I understand the desire for the realism factor, pride in your final product, etc. I also know that there are very good replicas of actual aircraft parts out there. I tip my hat to those individuals that put in the time and effort to create such awesome pits, it takes dedication and hard work. I've just never seen a sim pit with the actual glass in the forward windscreen or what appears to be an actual ejection seat except in a military training sim. So to me, that picture is either from somewhere that makes military training sim pits, there is some kind of replication wizzard that can make VERY realistic parts, or someone is getting parts using less than legal means. Are people willing to go that far just to make their pit more realistic?


To answer: Yes, Yes, No and Yes.

Check out the collection of F-18 parts Steve has come up with!!
http://www.f18simulator.com/f_18_project.htm

/O Salute!
Pretzel~
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/17/08 04:47 PM

That too is excellent craftmanship Pretzel.
Posted By: Michi Hirczy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/21/08 02:51 PM

 Originally Posted By: Flamedog
or someone is getting parts using less than legal means,

No, before 9/11 it was actually quite easy to get demilitarized parts off of ebay. I have quite some real parts incorporated into my pit (especially the ejection seat), because often it's been quite hard to replicate it the way I want it to look and feel (i.e. the throttle arm lever).
To you question about the switches: I used some real switches, because in the real F-16 you have some kind of safety mechanism before you can activate it (i.e. you have to pull the MasterArm switch to make it moveable). To replicate this behaviour, I had to use the real switch, there isn't just an option to it.

greetings
michi
Posted By: ZappaTime

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/22/08 11:44 PM

My little switch box effort (for IL2):
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/25/08 04:23 AM

That switchbox is a damn fine piece of work - the quality is so good (particularly the box part) that I thought maybe you had purchased it from some place. That is really high quality.
Posted By: ZappaTime

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/25/08 06:30 PM

 Originally Posted By: Corsair8X
That switchbox is a damn fine piece of work - the quality is so good (particularly the box part) that I thought maybe you had purchased it from some place. That is really high quality.

Thanks for the kind words. More info on it here:
http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2367911&fpart=5
Posted By: Dragline

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/25/08 11:34 PM

Fantastic switch box. Where did you get the plastic box portion of it?
Posted By: ZappaTime

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/26/08 12:22 AM

The enclosure is a Comtec brand unit from OKW Enclosures Ltd (http://www.okw.co.uk)

OKW appear to be a huge supplier in the UK - when I was searching around on the web for an angled box I came across many sites that supplied ABS or cast steel box enclosures - they all offered a free sample which always linked back to OKW's site. So I thought what the heck and requested a free sample from OKW and, somewhat surprised, got one by courier delivery the next day! \:D - they're very keen to help, too keen really, they even contacted me a day or too later to see how I got on with it, but they never pushed for a sale, just wanted to spread word about their products. As I work in a design section that sometimes need one-off enclosures their service and helpfulness didn't go to waste in lost sales, I got sent about 5 very glossy catalogues, which we'll probably keep as a handy reference at work and certainly use them for our future needs.

They did not restrict the free sample in any way other than it had a limit of £60 value and they could refuse a request for multiples of a particular design. My box had a value of about £26. I guess I could have requested a few different types within the free sample limit.
Posted By: Steven190

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/03/08 02:02 PM

Here is a FW190 cockpit that I started. I got the drawings form the French website CheckSix by Pierre 2a. I tried to keep it as close to the real plane as possible. I have many reference materials and scale drawings. I am + or - 1/4"

I built it so the cockpit will slide under the desk. My thoughts are an extra cockpit frame seems to be in the way, since IL2/FB/1946 has the frame and sight as the default. The screen is the same distance as the real plane would be.

Some of the items are a Belkin n52 key pad, a track mouse. the rudder pedals ate SimPeds. I built the pedals and added toe brakes. The new pedals will bolt to the SimPeds and give the correct pedal angle. The throttle, toe brake and trim pots are connected to Leo's BU0836a controller.

I used Monogram German paint guide, took it to the paint supplier and had them match the RLM 02,66,74,75 and 76 colors





I am going to use the KG 13a joystick from Tarmac







Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/04/08 10:30 PM

Nice pit!
Posted By: Simey

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/14/08 03:08 PM

Where's the coffee holder?
Posted By: Steven190

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/15/08 01:44 PM

A beer holder in front of the Track Ball

Just the right size, took me several attempts to get it just right
Posted By: crease-guard

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/24/08 06:26 AM

Here's progress of mine being done.



















Jay
Posted By: DanTheSasquatch

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/24/08 07:27 AM

Will all that stuff function? I seriously respect all you people who make all that fully functioning stuff, too time consuming for me, maybe a WWII plane, but an F-16? Lots of lights to make and switches and stuff, no thanks, thats not a weekend project lol \:\)
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/24/08 12:08 PM

Yeah, the completely realistic builds really impress the hell out of me.
Posted By: Steven190

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/24/08 01:22 PM

WOW

I am impressed a medal construction. Very Nice
I wish that I had the tools to do a metal one.
Posted By: crease-guard

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/24/08 05:59 PM

Yes, everything will fully function. That HOTAS, as well as 98% of the items in this pit are from an actual F-16. They are real parts. ALL of which will fully function within the capabilities of the flight software. Most of which I have already tested on the bench and have shown to fully work. I actually hooked up the HOTAS to another guys pit a few years ago and we flew sample runs during a museum big to do. It worked great...needed a bit of tweaking, but worked really well. Even had a viper driver fly it and he was amazed how accurate the feel was.

Hardware wise, interfacing is really quite easy. I use the Beta Innovations Gamma Ray for inputs and the Electron Flux for outputs. All my round instruments are fully functional. I will have a fuel flow, altimeter and compass functional very shortly. The two instrments that might propose a challenge are the ADI and the HSI. Those will be tricky, but I do believe they are doable. I have the magnetic type switches funtional, solenoids and inductive loads functional. Everything will work. I even figured out a way to implement the oxygen system and g-suit cueing.

Yes, not a project that happens in a weekend. I've spent 7 years in planning and that last year building. All the electronics have been tested, it's just a matter of me wiring them up.

Jay
Posted By: crease-guard

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/24/08 06:19 PM

I actually used Jason Englishs plans from viperpit.org. He spent, probably, around 1500 hours cadding out the pit. He did a special version for me so I could use metal. I had all the parts cut on a flow jet. The aux, center and right side panels are real items. The left console I got from Martin Schmitt in Germany. Excellent work he did.

There are some angle brackets that are welded in place using a TIG welder. Otherwise, everything else is riveted together.

Jay
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/25/08 05:31 AM

Very nice work!!!
It's cool to see clecos instead of c-clamps, for a change. It's one of the few metal hull constructions out there....
Other than Gene's F-15 re-build of course. (Although, he seems to be more of a CE than an AE, lately. \:\) )

Very professional and realistic but expensive. With rising metal costs, you must have deep pockets, or the patience of a saint!!!
I (unfortunately) have neither. I would love to skin my helo pit in metal but short of selling one of my grand-kids, on the black market, that's not gonna happen. Also, I'm probably 4 years into my build and the frustration of incompletion is already driving me friggin' crazy!!!

So.... you have my respect, on several different levels.
Thanks for sharing! Keep us posted.
Posted By: crease-guard

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/26/08 04:58 PM

Thanks for the kind words. That you see there represents years of planning and waiting. I, with you, am tired of not having the thing done. It's this year or bust for me.

Jay
Posted By: Steven190

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/26/08 11:31 PM

Just got my new stick and have it up and working

Posted By: Boandlgramer

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/27/08 06:24 AM

Hello

Very nice stick, Steven.


Thats my "new Steuerknüppel".

Posted By: uk-recce

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/28/08 01:49 PM

Hi
Steven190 and Boandlgramer how much were the K13 Sticks, are they both simulationscockpit.de sticks?
Posted By: Steven190

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/28/08 05:44 PM

I got mine from Tarmac

A very nice unit and the support has been good
Posted By: uk-recce

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/30/08 06:40 PM

Cool, is that the one that doesn't self center?
How does it handle in IL2 etc?
Posted By: Steven190

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/31/08 01:17 PM

You get use to it


It is a lot different than a desktop and is a workout

I am getting use to it and liking it very much


I kinda miss the force feedback from my MSFFB2, wondering if it could be incorportated in this stick, something maybe like an eddy dampener, or dics coils.

Maybe something to look into.
Posted By: Boandlgramer

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/31/08 05:55 PM

Like Steven said.

It´s a differnt flying with such an "Steuerknüppel".
The arm is needed to move the stick, not just the hand .
It´a great feeling.

And no, i have my Stick not from "Tarmac Aces".
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/09/08 05:43 PM

I just finished the ventilation system and thought it was time for some new pics. \:\)

I found a couple of aircraft vents mis-listed on eBay, for cheap. I replaced the gaskets and felt washers (which were rotted), cleaned up the inner iris ring, and re-painted them.
Then, riveted them to a couple of steel plates and mounted them to the front of the pit's frame.

The fan is a 10" AC fan in a MDF enclosure, with PVC fittings and 2" hose running back to the vents.
The whole thing sits underneath the monitor deck, on the front electronics cabinet.



SIDE VIEW


FRONT VIEW


CLOSE-UP


ORIGINAL VENTS


Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/12/08 02:15 AM

 Originally Posted By: crease-guard
Here's progress of mine being done.


Jay



I spy a REAL FLCS (both stick and throttle)!!!!!!

Nice


The rest of the pit looks great too.

Question though - where'd you go about obtaining those two sacred pieces? I would love to get my hands on one of those transducers they use for the microstick to umm... place inside my Cougar throttle.

Heck, the whole assembly would be nice.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/13/08 02:06 PM

Latest addition:
Posted By: crease-guard

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/18/08 03:25 AM

 Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
I just finished the ventilation system and thought it was time for some new pics. \:\)

I found a couple of aircraft vents mis-listed on eBay, for cheap. I replaced the gaskets and felt washers (which were rotted), cleaned up the inner iris ring, and re-painted them.
Then, riveted them to a couple of steel plates and mounted them to the front of the pit's frame.

The fan is a 10" AC fan in a MDF enclosure, with PVC fittings and 2" hose running back to the vents.
The whole thing sits underneath the monitor deck, on the front electronics cabinet.



SIDE VIEW


FRONT VIEW


CLOSE-UP


ORIGINAL VENTS




I love finding little gems like that on ebay that are mis-listed. Makes you feel like finding a Rembrandt at an Estate auction hidden under the Velvet Elvis.

Jay
Posted By: crease-guard

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/18/08 03:29 AM

 Originally Posted By: Mr_Blastman
 Originally Posted By: crease-guard
Here's progress of mine being done.


Jay



I spy a REAL FLCS (both stick and throttle)!!!!!!

Nice


The rest of the pit looks great too.

Question though - where'd you go about obtaining those two sacred pieces? I would love to get my hands on one of those transducers they use for the microstick to umm... place inside my Cougar throttle.

Heck, the whole assembly would be nice.


Good eye. Yes, they are both real and both work...well, not in the present form, but they have been tested.

The transducer for the microstick is a nice little piece. With the help of Mike Powell, I got that working and interfaced to the cougar electronics as well. All the HOTAS will run off the cougar "guts".

As for where I got them...well, timing is everything and I happen to be at the right place at the right time next to the right person. They are hard to find and once in a blue moon they show up on ebay. The throttle arm I got off ebay and the rest was obtained from someone selling their extensive collection.

Jay
Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/08 06:03 PM

Found this on youtube. A ramp start of a SU25 simpit. Its French so I don't follow everything he says. But that setup has some potential
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/30/08 12:26 PM

 Originally Posted By: J.A.K.
Found this on youtube. A ramp start of a SU25 simpit. Its French so I don't follow everything he says. But that setup has some potential


Tip for everybody in the future, do not show off your new pit in your bathrobe
Posted By: chshrkt

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/30/08 03:32 PM

I don't know, I was too busy looking at the amazing switch panel he had going on to notice the hairy legs peeking out from... umm, I mean...

Yeah, don't wear a bathrobe while showing off your pit on YouTube! LOL
Posted By: jeroen

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/30/08 07:28 PM

You really want him to show his pit without a bathrobe?
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/01/08 12:11 PM

Okay, I guess the rule is always show off your pit wearing pants. The only dangly bits in the pit should be the seatbelts.
Posted By: chshrkt

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/01/08 03:02 PM

 Originally Posted By: Corsair8X
Okay, I guess the rule is always show off your pit wearing pants. The only dangly bits in the pit should be the seatbelts.


What size Levis should I get for my Aker-Barnes? ;\)
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/02/08 02:06 AM

 Originally Posted By: chshrkt


What size Levis should I get for my Aker-Barnes? ;\)


I guess that is between you and your tailor \:\)
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/20/08 05:52 PM

A minor update....

My original throttle quad had a continuous label, for the markings on the side plates.
I never really liked it much. It worked... but it looked a little too cheesy.





So, I decided to make some metal replacements.
I cut down some thin galv sheet metal, rolled it and formed on a scrap piece of MDF, painted it black, and used smaller labels for the markings.
I also drilled for some small rivets, to help hold it on and define the zones.





I"m much happier, with this result! \:D

Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/20/08 06:18 PM

A bigger update....

I just finished the MISC panel, too. (If you look back to the first page, it's the big gray block, on the left side.)

All the functions of the software have already been assigned to existing panels. All that was left was to bring power into the pit.
I needed a panel to control the new ventilation system, the cockpit's interior lights, and bring AC in for the MFDs and the indicator's power supplies.

note: I used banana jacks and plugs, for connections this time.
One, because I felt more comfortable with a heavier connector for 110vac. Two, because I had a bunch of new ones laying around already. ;\)


FRONT VIEW




SIDE VIEW




BACK VIEW




INSTALLED




That's all for now.
Posted By: chshrkt

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/21/08 05:20 AM

In the immortal words of Strong Bad... "Holy Craaap!"

Very nice Grizzly.
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/21/08 05:34 PM

As always very impressive Grizzly. And yeah what he said^!
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/29/08 02:11 AM

ok guys...

although my pit is not a full fledge sim pit, i am putting some creativity into it...i dont have a whole room to dedicate a sim pit to, plus i need to configure something that can be put away into the closet/under the bed.
it was a challange to even make a long shaft cyclic, let alone foot pedals, based on almost nothing...just pictures...
before i started, i wish i have sat in a helicopter, or even try out the ch products pro pedals, just to even get a jist of what controllers feel like. i only had the ch products combatstick, and pro throttle at the time..which just collected dust...and quite frankly, i wasnt crazy about the pro throttle when it came to helicopters...

before:


after (WORK IN PROGRESS)


i hope to finish the heli-semi-sim pit base and go back to working on the collective now that my schedule 80 PVC pipes came in a couple weeks ago..

and yes...THAT IS the KAMOV LOGO. (KAMOV is the company that makes the KA-50 BLACK SHARK, and KA-52 Alligator)
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/29/08 04:15 AM

Great job Hannibal!

g.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/29/08 11:39 PM

thanks gene...

hey, your pit is coming out nice too...
albiet it a little tight in the inside, but i guess your going for some type of authentic WWII aircraft...
i was impressed by the gimbal machanism...i wish my gimbal didnt have to stand 6 inches high, so i had, or im in the process of making a deck 5 inches high.

by the way...(anyone) has sugggestions for a friction system? im about to work on the collective, and i need a design that allows me to raise and lower the collective at any given height with out it having it flop down when i let go....plus i really do not want any stress on the pivot point of the collective, so ideally, the friction system will have to be pulled and pushed by the collective handle...but i am opened to any ideas....
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/30/08 03:02 AM

Hannibal, the tightness is indeed on purpose. \:\) WWII era fighters were a lot smaller than many people realize. To give you a for instance, the Me-109E drawings I have show the canopy rails about 21" apart. My shoulders are wider than that. \:\)

The next one out of the gate will be sized along the lines of a modern jet fighter. It'll be just a little bit narrower than the F-15.

For friction control on the collective, you might try a pair of nylon washers on either side of the tube for the collective. Bolt it together using a stop nut (a fancy nut with a nylon ring inside) to tighten it down enough to solidly grip the collective, but not prevent it from moving. Now granted, that's at the pivot point, so you may want to improve the mechanism strength at that point.

I'm still kind of annoyed at how the stick gimbal came out and I may tear it apart and re-design it after I'm done with the rudder pedals & side throttle.

Keep up the good work! \:D

g.
Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/30/08 07:50 AM

 Quote:
WWII era fighters were a lot smaller than many people realize

Having sat in the prototype Spitfire replica at Duxford a few years ago I can confirm this.
I'm 6'1" and sat in the cockpit there is only just enough room for your arms either side. Also at my height, with a parachute strapped on, I would have had difficulty getting the canopy closed. As it was, minus parachute, the top of my head was touching the top of the canopy. Because of this I think there were size restrictions in place when choosing fighter pilots back in WWII.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/30/08 09:23 AM

 Originally Posted By: hannibal
...by the way...(anyone) has sugggestions for a friction system? im about to work on the collective, and i need a design that allows me to raise and lower the collective at any given height with out it having it flop down when i let go....plus i really do not want any stress on the pivot point of the collective, so ideally, the friction system will have to be pulled and pushed by the collective handle...but i am opened to any ideas....

I'm not sure what type of design you were going for but here's what I did to mine....

First, I used an extension damper to give it some hydraulic resistence, as I raised it. (I originally thought that was going to be enough to hold it.......not!)
It held it somewhat but the handle was still a little too heavy and it would slowly start to fall. So, I added a couple of springs, on the tail end to hold it.
They're not strong enough to lift the arm but strong enough to supplement the damper's holding ability.

Here's an overview I put together awhile back. (Collective Overview)
There are some closeup pics in there that may give you some ideas?

Since that overview was made, I've reduced the length of the arm by 5 inches, created a zippered/velcroed leather boot to cover the guts, and wired it all up.
Also, since these pics were taken I changed the out the cheap red "Shack" pushbutton I had on the faceplate and re-mapped some of the buttons.
(You can see that better, on the pics I posted earlier of the MISC panel.)



Hope that helps! \:\)
And nice work BTW!!!
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/30/08 01:58 PM

hey grizz...thats for the info...

i actually was going to use your idea before...i bought Guden Dampers, a compression and extension...but when i got them, they felt funny, out of the box, stock...like when you pull the rod (compression) or pull the rod (extension), it felt like it was pushing liquid...not a uniform feel like an office chair (maybe because me sitting on the office chair puts alot of resistance), so i didnt work with it.

then came my collective stick...after using black pipe, the collective stick and head assembly was getting to heavy.. about 3 pounds...so then i was looking for a counterweight to place on the opposite end, but then it was getting to be like 6 punds for the assembly, so i ditched it, and sought PVC schedule 80 pipe (not that weak crap schedule 40 that you get at home depot).
being that this was not found at local stores, i had to order online..so now it was going to be a while, so then i stopped working on the collective as a whole, and now im working with the base of my sim...(in the process of painting it with cool logos and bureau numbers)..

i was thinkin of VMA-223...or maybe MALS-14(i was attached to them when i was in the marines)..or something snazzy and official sounding, like NADEP JAX (Naval Avaiation Depot)...
or NAWC naval air warfare center VX-02 test and evaluation..but lets see, i can only fit so much.

well , i hope to conclude the platform base by close of the week, and start to go back to the collective, because with the PVC pipe, i was able to get the assembly down to 1.2 pounds.
Posted By: Sokol1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/30/08 05:15 PM

See this "Helcat", and his slindig access door.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b235/wholehawg/tiles100.jpg

http://www.airgroup51.com/forums/viewthread.php?tid=2407&page=2

Sokol1
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/12/08 10:21 PM

i know i been quiet with the post..still working on my compact pit...

added a boot to the cyclic, and painted the base before i start to work on the collectve...


Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/12/08 10:40 PM

Hanibal, how do you like flying around in the first AH1Z? ;\) Looks good!
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/13/08 01:20 AM

lol...i see you know a thing or two about bureau numbers....

when i paint the cyclic flat black, it will look sick!

mr ghost...lets see some pics of your set up...!
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/13/08 01:29 AM

Heh I get to play with the first AH1Z to be in the fleet. As well UH1Ys ;\) There are a few pictures of my pit in this thread already \:D .
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/14/08 07:42 PM

 Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
 Originally Posted By: hannibal
...by the way...(anyone) has sugggestions for a friction system? im about to work on the collective, and i need a design that allows me to raise and lower the collective at any given height with out it having it flop down when i let go....plus i really do not want any stress on the pivot point of the collective, so ideally, the friction system will have to be pulled and pushed by the collective handle...but i am opened to any ideas....

I'm not sure what type of design you were going for but here's what I did to mine....

First, I used an extension damper to give it some hydraulic resistence, as I raised it. (I originally thought that was going to be enough to hold it.......not!)
It held it somewhat but the handle was still a little too heavy and it would slowly start to fall. So, I added a couple of springs, on the tail end to hold it.
They're not strong enough to lift the arm but strong enough to supplement the damper's holding ability.



Hope that helps! \:\)
And nice work BTW!!!


Can you tell me the manufacture and part number, of the hydralic damper you used on your collective???? a link to a site or store would be great too
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/14/08 08:12 PM

 Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
Heh I get to play with the first AH1Z to be in the fleet. As well UH1Ys ;\) There are a few pictures of my pit in this thread already \:D .


what game do you sim on the most?
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/14/08 10:20 PM

 Originally Posted By: hannibal
what game do you sim on the most?


For the past two months, I've been TAD to New River NC and Cherry Point NC, so, lately, none. However, I fly, Jane's F/A 18 (multiplayer), SFP1, WOV, WOE, WOI, CFS, CFS2, and sometimes I even fly CFS3. I have a lot more but those are the ones I fly most.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/14/08 10:38 PM

i hated cherry point...must be steamy there right now. nothing in havelock...i like new river better. spent 3 years in cherry point. at least u get to see some helos in new river.
Posted By: The Nephilim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/15/08 02:00 AM

Hi, All Some Very Nice Pits here. So I thought I would show some Shots and a Vid of My Virtual Pit. Really have Not decided on what pit to make as I fly Many sims so I went Virtual.

I have aq Sharp XR10XL Projector with a 45" Screen, I also have it in 3D With ShutterGlasses from EDimensional. Really looks cool on the Projector and in 3D. I also bought 4 100Watt Powered Speakers with a Marantz 4001 Reciever I use as a Pre/Pro. I do NOT get to use the Speakers Much but when I do it is Very Immersive. Well here are some Shots of my Virtual Pit:
























http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubVIwGGx0io




I still need to mount the Screen and Projector so it is a Work in Progress ;\)
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/15/08 11:36 AM

 Originally Posted By: hannibal
i hated cherry point...must be steamy there right now. nothing in havelock...i like new river better. spent 3 years in cherry point. at least u get to see some helos in new river.


Truer words were never typed. \:\)
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/16/08 04:43 AM

 Originally Posted By: hannibal
Can you tell me the manufacture and part number, of the hydralic damper you used on your collective???? a link to a site or store would be great too

Honestly, I don't remember the mfr. I bought it from McMaster-Carr, though.

They have a strange on-line catalog that doesn't allow direct linking. So, search for "shock absorbing dampers". It should take you to page 1175. Scroll down to the Slam-Preventing Dampers. I used a 100lb extension damper. The exact part number will depend on your design and the amount of stroke that you need. I believe the one I used was the 4" stroke, p/n# 6521K53.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/17/08 01:26 AM

 Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Honestly, I don't remember the mfr. I bought it from McMaster-Carr, though.

They have a strange on-line catalog that doesn't allow direct linking. So, search for "shock absorbing dampers". It should take you to page 1175. Scroll down to the Slam-Preventing Dampers. I used a 100lb extension damper. The exact part number will depend on your design and the amount of stroke that you need. I believe the one I used was the 4" stroke, p/n# 6521K53.


alright...
i tried some reasearch...
this dampening thing is kickcing my ass.
i have guden dampers, i brought both a compression and extension dampers..
its rated for medium light, 50LB damper...(50LB max, 3LB min)
i have to say, it feels like crap. actually i dont feel anything...like it dosent exist. (30$ down the drain)

you mention that you have the 100LB damper...
when i am lookin at both the guden, avm damper sites, i see all these ratings about light, medium and heavy, i.e. 100LB light damper, or 100LB heavy damper...

my question to you...

does your damper give you alot of resistance when you pull up?
my ideal setup would be to allow moderate resistance on both push and pull. i do not intend to use the damper to set max and min stop..i would like to get the 4 in stroke, but only use 2" of play/strokage..lol.
i also like the manual feel, but at the same time, resistance is not good for the wrist, last thing i want is repetive stress injury...if you know what i mean. (i play alot of battlefield)
i like your opinion for feel of the damper that you are using....
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/17/08 10:30 AM

Hannibal

Just a couple of suggestions chap, if you bought both compression and extension dampers - couldn't you put both on there and then one would look after pulling up the collective and the other pushing down?

Or might using a counter weight on the opposite end of the pivot point help?

Cheers
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/17/08 09:31 PM

 Originally Posted By: GlynD
Hannibal

Just a couple of suggestions chap, if you bought both compression and extension dampers - couldn't you put both on there and then one would look after pulling up the collective and the other pushing down?

Or might using a counter weight on the opposite end of the pivot point help?

Cheers


well thats what i did, and no luck...it felt like crap, so i am asking this grizz guy his experience with the dampers, because he seems to be content with his set up.
Posted By: C6_Trollbug

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/21/08 01:45 PM

Double effect dampers should be more effective : one damper gives compression and extension damping .
http://www.axesindustries.com/details.asp/lang/fr/id/173/contoleurs-vitesse-hydrauliques.html

We use it on our rudder pedals replica .


Here is my Pit .
It's an IcePit , drawed and carried out by IceMaKeR , one of my squadmates . A one-piece foldable pit !

Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/21/08 10:01 PM

Nice stuff I wont ask but it would be cool to see it folded up thats an awesome idea for a mobile pit design. I like the switches too cool stuff.
Posted By: Rama

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/21/08 10:57 PM

You can have an idea of it There
By clicking on the Icepit picture.

Our virtual stunt patrol is using these pits for meeting displays, works fine, quickly installed, quickly wrapped, and you can take 6 of them in a small car.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/23/08 03:40 PM

 Originally Posted By: hannibal
...this dampening thing is kickcing my ass.
i have guden dampers, i brought both a compression and extension dampers..
its rated for medium light, 50LB damper...(50LB max, 3LB min)
i have to say, it feels like crap. actually i dont feel anything...like it dosent exist. (30$ down the drain)

you mention that you have the 100LB damper...
when i am lookin at both the guden, avm damper sites, i see all these ratings about light, medium and heavy, i.e. 100LB light damper, or 100LB heavy damper...

my question to you...does your damper give you alot of resistance when you pull up?
m....i like your opinion for feel of the damper that you are using....

hannibal - My apologies for the slow response but I have been out of town. It also looks like you have moved on to other ideas, so this may all be a moot point but I will try to answer what I can anyway.

First, let me say that I am no expert on dampers, by any means. I was simply tired of the effortless feel of a Cougar/TQS throttle arm. I knew that I was going to need a beefier pivot, for a full length collective, so I opted to add a damper, to give it more of a hydraulic feel and make it harder to pull. I also had no intention on using it for anything other that it was designed for...a collective for a standalone, dedicated, Comanche pit based on EECH. Not for other helos, not for other sims, and not for all day gaming. So maybe our varying satisfaction boils down to our expectations?

Was it the best solution? No, probably not. A fully sealed hydraulic system, with some kind of flow controller would have worked better. To keep it all mechanical, some kind of bearing and lead screw design would have worked, too. Both would have been more elegant but both would have been substantially more costly and time consuming to build, too. This was just a simple way to add resistance to the handle.
"Resistance" is the key here. It does not hold the arm in place, or provide an effective positioning system. It just provides resistance to your inputs.
The tension in my pivot point does most of the holding power. The damper helps a little but not as much as I originally hoped. So, the remainder is taken up with the tail springs.

When I read your post, I tore into my collective to see what McMaster-Carr had sold me. Especially when you started citing damping coefficients.....something I didn't even know to consider, at first. The damper I have is an AVM. The part number on it didn't match anything on the AVM site, so I decided to give them a call. I was connected to the head of the dampers division. Here's what I learned....

- The 100lb dampers (at McMaster-Carr) are medium damping. The 50 lb dampers are heavy damping.

- The 50 lb and 100 lb rating has nothing directly to do with the force, or time, required to extend/compress it. It is mearly a recommendation of the maximum load. It is more an indication of the diameter of the cylinder and shaft.

- The damping coefficient is the indication of the time it takes to extend/compress it. The lighter the rating, the faster the rate. Basically, it indicates the size of the aperture that the fluid will pass through. With a larger hole, you can move faster, and hence the damping would be lighter. Heavy damping uses smaller holes to make the rate slower.

- Dampers need to be in the correct orientation. Extension dampers need to be mounted "shaft down". Where the shaft extends below the housing. Compression dampers should be mounted just the opposite. "shaft up". (This is the reason I had a loss of pressure, near the end of the travel....I had it upside down....Who knew???)

- The resistance a damper exhibits is somewhat based on the force applied. If you move a damper slower than it's max rate, it requires less force to do so.


So for me, it works. It has low resistance when I push down on the colective. This allows me to drop down without alot of force. When making small (or controlled) moves the resistance is much less because of the lower force inputs. It always requires more effort to pull up but it's still comfortable to use, for normal terrain following. And yes, if I'm trying to yank it up quickly then it is heavy. But that's exactly what I wanted. It should be a lot harder to cut the rotors into the wind like that. It helps to keep me honest. I can't just pop over a hill, bottom it out until the last minute, then slap the collective up to near over-torque to pull it out. For me, heavy controls are part of it. If I were doing a fighter pit, I would try to do g-forces effects, too.

I'm sorry if it's not what you were looking for, or expecting. It does seem more real to me, than very light controls that have no "consequences".
To each their own, right? \:\)



Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/23/08 10:05 PM

 Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT

I'm sorry if it's not what you were looking for, or expecting. It does seem more real to me, than very light controls that have no "consequences".
To each their own, right? \:\)


no malice taken...
you seem content with your creation...
i wish there was a sure fire way to do things, and u had goals which i assume you achieved.
i have my own, first i didnt know what i want, but through the trial and error process, im fiding out what it is that i am looking to achieve..

i wish i just had plans, the materials and instructions right in front of me, like a model kit...but no, life dosent work that way, unless, you want to spend 4000$ for a copycat setup or some other.

today i brought rubber, didnt know there was a science behind it. i think i pretty sure where i am heading toward with the materials i am acquiring.

you know, at first, i was like WTF..why is this pro throttle so loose...now i understand.

anwyays, i appreciate your suggestions and experiences in this sim pit building world.

we are proving to be joystick engineers!

NOTE..I did an upgrade to the foot pedals...puchased http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1870315&PMT4NO=44543103

must have for linkages...i was trying to avoid any un-necessary play and gaps for the foot pedals...
i was using stamped tie-rod ends, that gave me 1/8 of play (1/16 for left pedal and 1/16 for right pedal) ..but with these puppies, i got it down to 1/16 (1/32" for each pedal)...

I am content with what i did ...i really hope to finish the collective soon! i friggen want to fly...mastering helicopter will be intresting and new chapter for me, in the preparation of black shark and BATTLEFIELD 3 (something tells me my next project will be the bathroom 1.e. renovating)
Posted By: marc1111

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/05/08 12:51 PM

here's my budget driving pit, wooden frame, G25 and a few car bits
complete with working (digital) handbrake





more info and pics at http://ru1337.com/marc/carchair/
Posted By: F19_CoNa

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/09/08 06:56 PM

First version....




Last version....I promise (fingers crossed behind my back)


Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/10/08 10:41 PM

@ CoNa - that is truly remarkable.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/11/08 03:09 AM

ok, my turn...

as you know i am in the middle of building a collective.
i finially got the last of the ordered parts this past week..I HOPE it will be the last parts need to be ordered...
i really hope the gears i ordered from 3 months ago still apply to my current design.

today i am finializing the collective control head..i just have to wire it up be fore completeing the collective base..



Posted By: horus0129

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/11/08 02:20 PM

Nice cockpit hannibal!
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/14/08 01:43 AM

thanks..its coming along..
i just spent the the last 3 hours integrating 2 stupid buttons and a hat...

BUT IT WORKS!!!
achievement for the evening..
i should be finishing off integrating the pots for the throttle/AoA axis tomorrow...

ME TESTING HAT



UPDATE: not only that i am getting hard on from my work, but theres a friggin new DCS Black Shark prodcuers notessssss!
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/29/08 09:48 PM

has been a whiole since my last post on my simpit.
i managed to finish a week and a half ago..was flying last week.
have some tweaking to do,
i ended up buying a CH Products Flight Stick Pro, to chop up for electronics, so that I may incorporate it into the foot pedals...

The Saitek SST Programing software just isnt as flexible as the CH Control Manager Utlility for CH Products Controllers...
My FLight Stick pro arried today.

anyhow this is a pic of the final result for last week..


Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/30/08 09:53 PM

Looks damn fine Hannibal \:\)

Cheers for posting up the pics...
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/01/08 01:40 AM

Hey GlynD, are you in any Helicopter Virtual Squadrons?
im trying to find people to practice Flying helicopters in a collective group, to prepare for DCS Black Shark...

unless your one of those lucky blokes who is a DCS Black Shark beta tester....

any how...know of any groups to join?
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/01/08 08:59 PM

Sweet job hannibal!!!

I have to admit to being impressed by your pace, too! It all came together pretty quickly.
(At least compared to my speed. .... I'm gonna need time-lapse photography, just to convince myself I'm not moving in reverse!)
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/08 05:48 AM

thanks...

feels good too...
the build was all about functionality...

today i incorporated the electronics of the CH Products Flightslick Pro..
the saitek software was not as customizable as the CH control manager...
about to test it out with the new foot pedal electronics...
(70$ just to use one pot)
Posted By: GlynD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/08 12:44 PM

No I'm not yet, I keep meaning to get online and play EECH or EE2 - problem is I can't use my newer PC at the moment as it is being used for my cockpit and that is not finished yet! The progress has slowed up recently, as things have taken me away from the build...

You have done a super job there and hopefully I will get a chance soon to kick-start my build.

As to BlackShark - no I am not a beta tester (wish I was though). It looks fantastic doesn't it, however I don't want to look too closely otherwise I might end up being tempted to build another pit! \:\)

Have a look at the EECH and EE2 forums as there seems to be quite a bit of online multi-player going on recently.

Cheers
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/08 01:29 PM

Ahhhhh Control Manager, it's a wonderful thing ;\) Thanks again Bob! Hannibal, what can I say, you've done a wonderful job! As soon as I move into my new house, I'm thinking of re-doing a few things on my pit to make it a, Plane, Helo, Car kinda thingamabob.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/08 08:31 PM

**** Builder's Tip of the Day..........DON"T ASSUME ****
I just finished some more work on the collective because I screwed it up the first time!
(So why not share my shame, right? )

If you remember, I used the guts from a Cougar throttle, for my collective mod.
In my design, I didn't need the antenna pot, or the radar cursor (micro-stick). I did remember that I would need the antenna pot, when updating the firmware, though.
So, I added a hot switch to the top of the collective that allowed me to simulate full CW and CCW.




Where I "pooch-screwed" it, was assuming that I could just click past the micro-stick section, during the calibration routine.
I figured the micro-stick would not be properly calibrated but it would still allow me to complete the calibration successfully.........NOT!
It errors out because "not enough of a differential was observed on the micro-stick."
I could have used a couple more switches, to hot wire the micro-stick, but it was easier to just pull the original out of the throttle handle and use it. Since I was already in there I went ahead and pulled the antenna pot, too.

I replaced the switch with a 9 pin D-sub connector.




Then, I made a little calibration box, for the antenna and micro-stick.



Now, when I need to do a calibration, i just unzip the boot, plug in the box, and I can complete the calibration.
(Also, if I ever decide to add these axes to my pit, the I/O is already in place.)

It's all better now but the moral of the story is to check everything (twice) and don't assume!!!



Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/03/08 02:46 AM

wow..i just found out that the thrustmaster cougar does not work for windows XP 64bit...
another reason i am glad i chopped up ch products joysticks...
Posted By: Baco

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/08/08 07:07 PM

My spartan Cockpit...



Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 08/10/08 10:10 PM

This is a copy paste from my clans forum....

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2423369#Post2423369

Above is the link to my simpit in its old digs and config.

Heres the new and improved (only slightly improved) pit in its new digs that is Hitchs home theater/Office/Sim & Gaming room:


I mounted the pit to an old cubicle tabletop and added castor wheels for easy moving and I also
re-routed the wiring to be a bit neater. The wiring looks good but this morning the mouse didnt work (gotta unwire that now arrrgggh!)


I remounted the joystick to be in a better sturdier spot I still have to adjust a few things though with the ergonomics.


I mounted the Buttkicker Gamer I got under the seat. The tactile feedback translates well throughout the pit so you feel the gun shaking and flak bursts as well as the feel of the engines running. The new spot for the joystick gets a much better effect than the previous spot it was mounted.


You gotta have a spot for 7 USB devices soon to be eight.


This would be the eighth device. It used to be my old Logitech Wingman joystick that I hacked apart and soldered in new buttons. Right now its got 7 pushbuttons and in the end will have 4 (on)off(on) momentary toggles for 8 more buttons and I have to get some potentiometers for the 4 axes that will be added. I'll probably mount it behind my throttle and use it for engine managment controls.

Now the new diggs:


Every home theater need seating. sorry for the mess the rooms still a work in progress.


The new screen (well new used) it doesnt retract anymore but thats ok I'm gonna add some curtains around it to give that movie theater look you may be able to see the speakers mounted in there eventually I'll run the wiring through the ceiling.


Same thing on the wiring for the projector I'm gonna run it thru the ceiling. I'd would have done it already but its spooky up there! This dude is on his last leg, I'm amazed that the lamp hasnt given out yet (rated for 2000 hrs/ has almost 4000 hrs) it was a great value.


New set up fits right into the corner just like I planned (good thing I measured last lol).


My custom desk in the closet. The monitor floats on a swing arm and everything else sits on a glass top. Looks a lot nicer when its picked up again sorry for the mess. Everything that runs thru the ceiling will eventually meet here with no wires showing (hopefully). Yes my computer chair is an ottoman........ great for the back! That would be the newer PC in there too!

Hope you enjoyed maybe in the next few months I can start and finish my collective control project for the Black Shark helo sim! Thats gonna be a project, I'm also thinking of hacking a keyboard and doing something similiar (but on a larger scale) as my other custom joystick project. Yeah you thought you were a nerd huh.......................... :mrgreen:

PS this is mainly for flight sims but I can play all games on it.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 09/01/08 12:37 AM

awesome setups!

i been quiet...
i have been trying to mess around with 3 monitor gaming
i just got lomac working with softTH...looks cool.

this is my current setup...im waitng for dcs black shark to come out.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 09/09/08 10:18 AM

Time for a small update....

I finished mounting the right side panel and in doing so, I altered the build again. (An eventuality, when you design as you go. \:\) )
I've been wrestling with how to simplify entering and exiting the pit. If I were to stay true to the Comanche, I would have to climb through the left side window. There are a few issues with that.
- First, most of my custom built panels are on the left side and the thought of climbing over them every time was not comforting.
- Second, the space that my pit occupies is better suited for a right side entry.
- Lastly, after one knee surgery (and one on the way!), the idea of climbing sent me running for the Naproxen!

So, I decided to hinge the right side panel.
(Eventually, the exterior shell will also be hinged but seperately so that when someone besides me is flying I can still help them fly.)

Here's what I came up with.




Here it is closed. It doesn't have the outer skin on yet, so you can see the cable latch.




Here is a close-up of the hinge. The hinge is stock aluminum piano hinge but to give it a smoother travel I disassembled it, filed down the interlacing section a bit, and installed delrin washers. I also put in a ring, at the top of the pin, for future disassembly. The threaded rod arms, behind and inboard of the hinge, not only help to stabilize the panel but allow me to tilt and level it.




Here is a close-up of the cable latch assy.
The rubber bumper helps to cushion the blow, when closing it, and allows me to adjust out any slop, in the pin latch.



Posted By: hannibal

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 09/09/08 10:13 PM

what a copy cat! my sim pit also has "no step" markings....

i have to make sure no one is lookin into my windows when i shower or change clothes....
Posted By: USMC BEANS

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 09/09/08 11:15 PM

GrizzlyT, I have noticed a distinct lack of Boeing stickers on your pit! I will hit up some of my IDS buddies here at work to see if I can find you some Commanche stickers.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 09/10/08 02:23 AM

why does he have to put "boeing" stickers? maybe "no fear/ fear this" would be better...or even, "i Aint Skeered"...
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 09/10/08 05:32 AM

 Originally Posted By: hannibal
what a copy cat! my sim pit also has "no step" markings....

They say imitation is the highest form of flattery, right?

Speaking of markings...I came across this document in my searches. (May be helpful for some. Especially if you are planning to partially, or fully, enclose.)
Painting and Marking of Army Aircraft

 Originally Posted By: USMC BEANS
GrizzlyT, I have noticed a distinct lack of Boeing stickers on your pit! I will hit up some of my IDS buddies here at work to see if I can find you some Commanche stickers.

That would be very cool! Although, short of a sponsorship deal, I think I'll reserve the stickers for the front cabinet. This isn't NASCAR, after all.
Posted By: urze

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/01/08 08:39 AM



You can see a video of the controls in action on my website.
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/01/08 10:19 AM

Hey U.R.Z.E - I visited your site - thanks so much for posting the tutorial detailing how to get TouchBuddy to display on a PocketPC. Exactly what I was looking for.

Thanks again! \:D

Vali

~S~
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/04/08 04:24 PM

U.R.Z.E, your innovations are really amazing.
Posted By: xddorox

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/10/08 07:22 PM

Well, here's mine. I built it using plywood and whatever scrap I could recycle. The rudder pedals are made from an old army backpack, the joystick is underneath the seat and it's connected to a hocley stick that was hacked up and bolted to the floor with a door hinge. The wires were extended so I could mount the handle to it. The potentiometers for rudder and throttle were replaced and moved. Rudder pedals activate the potentiometer via bike cables. Seat cushions are foam covered with an old duffle bag material. The switches were working at the time. I used a hacked keyboard circuit and thankfully I didn't fry my machine. It runs from the keyboard for now and I want to get a K matrix board(If that's how you call it). I also need to reinstall the surround sound. There is a speaker in the headrest, the sub sits between the rudder pedals, the front speaker sits on top of the sub and I have 2 tweeters. Total cost came to under $100 and it's a whole lot of fun. PC is a crappy P3 with full capacity RAM for it and a decent video card. It does the job.

The pit in October 2005 with my son in it:


Now






Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/11/08 02:29 AM

Sweet. I particularly like the RCAF emblem.
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/11/08 04:23 AM

^^Thats some awesome stuff there xddorox keep it up! I like how you built your own floor mounted stick and assorted controls even a pic of a girl pinned up lol!
Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/11/08 03:39 PM

The floor mounted stick is a stroke of genius!! I like it \:D
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/11/08 05:35 PM

it looks robust for 0 degress for X and 0 degrees for y...
im curious to how that works for the diagonal slew....
especially max up-left, max up-right, max down-left, and max down-right..
Posted By: xddorox

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/13/08 04:46 AM

hannibal, the only thing that makes this thing possible to work good is the possibility to calibrate it with XP. If it wasn't for that, it would be pretty crappy. Flatlander, my wife was kind enough to pose for that picture wearing my leather flight jacket. She wasn't going to let just any fluzzy decorate my pit. \:\) J.A.K I got that idea from a guy on the web some years ago who built a budget DC3 simpit. Unfortunately I don't have the address anymore. The hockey stick and door hinge was my adaptation of his idea. Glad you guys like it. Thanks for all the great comments. Oh yeah, don't bother asking for a close up of that picture. ;\)
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Updated Pit and new Diggs! - 10/13/08 09:34 AM

 Originally Posted By: Corsair8X
Sweet. I particularly like the RCAF emblem.

And the bullet holes! \:\)

Nice work!
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/27/08 01:55 PM

My pit, is in re-work. I'll be posting new pictures, during progress and when finished. "Film at eleven" biggrin
Posted By: VF-2 John Banks

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/13/08 08:19 PM

I have a couple of pics but i don't know where i can upload them to for free? Are there any good webhost?
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/14/08 01:08 AM

Originally Posted By: VF-2 John Banks
I have a couple of pics but i don't know where i can upload them to for free? Are there any good webhost?


Photobucket.com is one I use...
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/16/08 01:52 PM

After a re-design of the wrap around feature that my TQ and PT are on, I now have tons of storage for, stuff I can store biggrin



I've also added a Logitech 5.1 surround sound system. I had to R&R my seat to get the BASS/Woofer under it. I can REALLY feel stuff blowin' up now!
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/16/08 03:46 PM

Ken, where did you get the seat? Is that from an office chair or something. It's got a nice and simple shape to it. I bet it would be perfect fit for my cockpit project. wink

g.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/16/08 03:58 PM

Hi Gene! Funny you should *ahem* mention the seat. Yes, it's my old office chair.

Perhaps this seat will do?
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/16/08 04:16 PM

Without knowing the dimensions of the seat, I can't tell. It looks ok. The design was "fitted" for a typical car seat as represented by the Corsica seat I have in it now.

g.
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/16/08 09:39 PM

I noticed that you added a fan for that "open air cockpit" effect. Now all you have to do is mount it on an arm that can raise it above you for that helo feel smile
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/22/08 07:15 AM

I haven't posted in a while and thought it was time for an update. First....

531 Ghost - Nice update to the pit!

Gene - I been following the work you're doing on the "pit kit" closely, both here and on the mailing list....very cool!
Not only will a budget minded kit help to bring more victims.....uh... I mean <cough> "enthusiasts" into the fold but it could make for a nice side project 2nd pit, for rotorheads like me. For the cost, I was thinking how cool it would be to have two of them set up head-to-head, running CFS, for some some good ol' fashioned yank-and-bank (guns only) WWII dogfighting....Keep the pits stripped down and simple so they're more accessible to everyone (arcade style).....Sure beats a pool table, right!?!?!


Anyhoo, enough of the small talk. Here's what I wanted to share.
I've been busy lately wiring up the pit and documenting all the wiring. banghead (A very tedious process.)
Along the way, I have been working on the cockpit night lighting, too. Since my panels were constructed sans backlighting, my idea was to use EL (electro-luminescent) strips, to side-light all the panels. These are the same 1/2" self-adhesive strips used in case mods. They are powered by 12vdc and can be sized and formed very easily. I've even seen them advertised on homebuilt aircraft parts websites, for the same purpose. What I found is that they work great close up but do not throw light very far. So, they had their uses but didn't solve all my lighting needs. For the areas where I needed more light being "thrown", I turned to LEDs.

Here's the front dash lit up, before cockpit lighting.




Here it is after. My cheap camera doesn't do dark shots too well, so the effect the EL has doesn't really come through. There is a strip that runs around the inside edge of the cowl and it lights the MPDs and the corner panels.




Here's a side shot, from a lower vantage point. You can see the left side panel lighting and the LEDs used on the MFDs.




Here's a closeup of the left side. It shows the EL off a little better but the pics really don't do it justice.




For the LED strips I used green, surface-mounted, high intensity LEDs (600mcd). I mounted them to a PCB I etched using the toner transfer method. Since the EL strips were running off 12vdc, I had to string together little series circuits of 5 LEDs and a 100 ohm current limiting resistor. The length was determined by the width of the MFDs. So each strip ended up with 6 circuits in parallel.




This is the lighting assembly for the MFDs. I wired two of the strips togther and mounted them inside a DIN rail, then screwed it to the overhanging bottom side of the top warning panel.




Here's a closer shot.




There's also a single strip mounted up under the dash that's aimed down at the anti-torque pedals, to light up the floor a bit.
(It just didn't come through in the pics.)
Well, I guess that's it for now. (Back to the wiring.) wave
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/22/08 09:37 PM

Really Cool Stuff Grizzly! I have to agree with your thoughts on Genes ideas too, way more awesome than a pool table or even Ms. Pac Man table!
Posted By: Ripcord

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/23/08 01:29 PM

Ooooo, I like that green lighting over the MFD panels. That really looks tough, probably makes it a lot easier to fly, too, when it's so dark like that. Nice job.

Ripcord
Posted By: VF-2 John Banks

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/23/08 01:51 PM

Here is my small pit.



Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/23/08 03:01 PM

GrizzlyT that is one awsome set up! Between you and Goupil's pit all I can do is
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/23/08 03:43 PM

Now that is just awesome Grizzly. Great job!

Now wait just a second.... You're flying an F-15 with an *F-16* HOTAS? For shame! biggrin



g.
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/24/08 04:31 AM

Originally Posted By: Gene Buckle
Now that is just awesome Grizzly. Great job!

Now wait just a second.... You're flying an F-15 with an *F-16* HOTAS? For shame! biggrin

g.


Thanks Gene but as long as I'm going to my accept shame, it should be for the right reason.
While I may have taken a few too many design liberties (given the lack of available info), let me just say, There ain't no fast movers in this old rotorhead's hanger!
The pit back there in the shadows is supposed to be a RAH-66 pit. So technically, I'm flying a Comanche with an F-16 stick.

soapbox
Although, if Thrustmaster ever made good on their promise, of multiple choices of inter-changable stick grips for the Cougar, I might actually have something a little more attack helo like by now!

I still accept my shame, though. rolleyes
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/24/08 04:09 PM

Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT


soapbox
Although, if Thrustmaster ever made good on their promise, of multiple choices of inter-changable stick grips for the Cougar, I might actually have something a little more attack helo like by now!


Well you should've known they were going to screw us as soon as they kicked the Cougar designer to the curb after it was released.

What surprises me is that nobody has stepped up to the plate and started to offer add-on grips for the Cougar. (Is the Cougar even manufactured any longer?)

g.
Posted By: Derk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/01/09 11:07 AM

Hey all,
More than a year ago, I asked you to show off your pit as a source of inspiration for mine. Several rebuilts, a marriage and careerchange and a pregnant wife later...
...I had to settle for a flight desk with a small centre console to house my avionics because well, there isn't any room in the house left for what I had in mind with the baby coming and all. (as you can see, the laundry rack is right next to it and that's a tight fit for the room.
Anyway, I figured I'd show what I have come up with in the end. Or should I say: the beginning, because the ideas just keep coming!


Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/01/09 11:01 PM

Did you build or buy that right console? If you built it yourself, what an incredible job. It's very professional looking.
Posted By: Ltfransky

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/02/09 02:14 AM

Monk, I so feel for you. We're due in August and it's really pinched my budget.
Posted By: Derk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/02/09 06:54 AM

@ Corsair: No, build it myself, just a few pieces of MDF with a lot of filler and some black house paint. The rest is GoFlight gear and a Saitek X52 throttle. It really looks better on the piccies than it is.

Thanks Lt. We're due August 8th here. The wife thinks it's a boy so There might be some dual control pit in the future somewhere. And if it's a girl... Heck, girls fly too!
Posted By: Ltfransky

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/02/09 01:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Mr. Monk
Thanks Lt. We're due August 8th here. The wife thinks it's a boy so There might be some dual control pit in the future somewhere. And if it's a girl... Heck, girls fly too!


Nice! You can build an F-15E pit with full WSO controls, or a Longbow pit with the new MTADS. Very cool.
Posted By: Timothy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/13/09 12:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Pretzel
Originally Posted By: Flamedog
I understand the desire for the realism factor, pride in your final product, etc. I also know that there are very good replicas of actual aircraft parts out there. I tip my hat to those individuals that put in the time and effort to create such awesome pits, it takes dedication and hard work. I've just never seen a sim pit with the actual glass in the forward windscreen or what appears to be an actual ejection seat except in a military training sim. So to me, that picture is either from somewhere that makes military training sim pits, there is some kind of replication wizzard that can make VERY realistic parts, or someone is getting parts using less than legal means. Are people willing to go that far just to make their pit more realistic?


To answer: Yes, Yes, No and Yes.

Check out the collection of F-18 parts Steve has come up with!!
http://www.f18simulator.com/f_18_project.htm

/O Salute!
Pretzel~




Linky no worky. frown
Posted By: glvaca

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/24/09 06:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Steven190
You get use to it


It is a lot different than a desktop and is a workout

I am getting use to it and liking it very much


I kinda miss the force feedback from my MSFFB2, wondering if it could be incorportated in this stick, something maybe like an eddy dampener, or dics coils.

Maybe something to look into.


Hey Steven190, just ordered the KG13 from Tarmac yesterday and am now busy conceiving my pit while I wait. The main question for me now is the with and height of the stick so I can calculate how high I need to bring my seat and such in comparison. Could you give me that information?
Also, how high do you think is ideal for the stick to be in comparison to your seat? Hope I'm clear in my question...

Thanks!!!

Great stuff on this forum, got a lot of idea's now to ponder!!
Posted By: Sully

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/14/09 05:17 PM

might as well throw mine into the mix



Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/15/09 03:28 AM

that cpu case is freakin huge...
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/16/09 02:57 PM

@Sully - Really like it. I think that is what I am going to do once I move into the house I bought. Do you find it comfortable? If you don't mind me asking, about how much did you pay in wood for the setup? I have the Akers-Barnes plans but I've not priced it out yet. And how did you attach your lower monitor because I'm thinking of mounting a touch screen where you have that display.

Great setup.
Posted By: Sully

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/17/09 05:19 PM

Thanks....If I remember right it was around $50 us for top grade smooth finish but later I built one for my stepson and lowes had a some cheaper plywood that was real smooth on both sides and I think it was only $25. Yes it pretty comfortable I fly for hours at a time...you kind of lower yourself in like a real pit but once your in its good..... my center lcd is mounted by putting 2 small screws in the pit console face and mounting some hooks/hanger tabs on the back of the lcd.....
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/18/09 12:05 PM

Thanks for the info. Have to admit that the price is right smile
Posted By: Redhornet

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/29/09 02:55 AM

Originally Posted By: crease-guard
Here's progress of mine being done.



Do I see an Elise back there?
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/14/09 05:58 AM

ok a little off topic for most simpit , im building a multi use pit , side by side , the outside is mech theme / cockpit is flight/ mech sim on pilot and fps/rpg co pilot ,please excsue shes sti ll a work in progress
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/14/09 04:22 PM

Now THAT is damn cool!

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Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/15/09 03:53 PM

INDEED!!! That is freakin' awesome! thumbsup

I wonder if Choowy (over @ Frugalsworld) has seen it?
Up to now, his is the only mech pit I've seen.
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/15/09 08:33 PM

Holy cow! and good job, indeed! Is the structure built onto the framing of your metal building, or is it freestanding? With a 'pit that high; do you have a mini-fridge and relief tube built in? smile
MudPuppy
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/15/09 10:12 PM

short answer to both questions , i saw lt choowies pit at frugal , realy nice !!!, i didnt join frugal cuz of the iqc addy thing , question 2 the mech is built on the side of my office in my shop , the sim is one small part of a larger project[the whole second floor] im working on , you enter the pit thru a bulkhead airlock door , the mech is 14ft tall the legs are storage closets for the shop . more pics at simpit.org [ i dont want to tye up this thred ... ] keep in mind shes still a WIP
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/15/09 10:19 PM

Oh you can tie us up with all the pictures you want, we love these original ideas once again just awesome!
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/16/09 04:16 AM

ok how about a down the wall shot , also shows part of the game/break room project ,,, shhhh!!!!! you have to go thru 2 airlocks to get to the sim bulkhead .. this project is just somthimg my wife and i have planed for years !
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/18/09 12:28 PM

wave Quick update...Added a couple new pics, to the site.

Beacon/Strobe Light

I was putting the panels on part of the rollcage and decided to add a strobe light, to the back panel. It adds a little extra lighting, to the outside of the helo.
It was made out of a PVC electrical junction box, an old Radio Shack strobe light, and a DIY snow globe craft kit.
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/18/09 07:55 PM

hay grizzly i just checked out your helo NICE work !!! im a big one on extra lights !! cuz my pits enclosed i installed in game lights on the outside , once again sweet work
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/19/09 04:19 PM

Thanks!
Mine's not TWO STORIES TALL!!!!...but I still like it. WinkNGrin
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/19/09 10:15 PM

yea. but right now mine is just a large scale model ... you can atleast fly yours ... my sim is still a desk lol, a verry clutterd desk
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/25/09 04:32 AM

well im almost off the desk now
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/26/09 12:06 AM

I recognise that controller! It looks really nice in there with all that stuff. So does that mean that you are 'meching about in the X-Box world or are you using that in PC sims as well?
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/26/09 01:11 AM

The sim has 4 diffrent , sub OS .. flight , mech ,fps,and surffin da net ..[plus 3 console type game units] she is a true multi-pit most of the "OS" are in the right leg [piped right into the shop ac unit],and i did the xbox to usb thing to the SB controller ,
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/31/09 05:54 PM

I'm sorry but what kind of controller is that and how do you get it to work? Looks really interested for non flight sim games!
Posted By: NamelessPFG

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/31/09 10:37 PM

Nice Steel Battalion controller set there.

It looks quite crowded around that desk, though...
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/01/09 01:10 AM

just started the pilot side , the over head monitors work great , sorry the pics a little fuzzy / now to get all the stuff off the desk and on to the pilots side .. ,side note with the steel battalion controller replot program , you can remap any button , just need a xbox to usb cable , any game or sim is a lot of fun with that controller
Posted By: [VAAF]ruprecht

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/07/09 05:25 AM

A few photos taken today:







Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/07/09 05:37 AM

sweet set up
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/07/09 11:53 AM

About the only response I can come up with is wow! That is really awesome.
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/07/09 05:34 PM

Yeah man awesome stuff!
Posted By: Donk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/08/09 01:51 PM

cool!!!how did u make that panel??
Posted By: VTB_Gunner

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/08/09 07:06 PM

Not finished by any means, but this is the Block 52 I've been flying for almost two years...



















Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/09 09:26 AM

Damn! Gunner... That's a hell of a first post!!!
jawdrop

Let me be the first to say welcome and thanks for the pics. The pit is ab-so-lutely beautiful.
And to be the left wing, for the Virtual Thunderbirds, too!....very impressive.

As a fellow pit builder and ex-Air Force "spark chaser", I salute you, sir!
notworthy
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/09 06:27 PM

That's absolutely drool-worthy!

Thanks for showing us.

Do the instruments show live information or are they inert?

~S~
Posted By: VTB_Gunner

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/09 08:00 PM

Thanks guys!

Originally Posted By: Valisk_61

Do the instruments show live information or are they inert?
~S~


The Altimeter and Machmeter are hybrids made from real cans, and a mix of faces/parts from Simkits and Mike "Kabar" Williams at Viperpit.org. With a little work, I could make them functional with FSX or Falcon, but ALL my flying at this point is LOMAC, and last I checked it's unlikely I could interface them with the sim. The rest of the instruments are all non-functional replicas. Since all my flying these days is with The Virtual Thunderbirds, my world is Boss's missile rail - The only time I ever have a use for steam gauges is between the break and rejoin on the High bomb burst...but they look cool. wink Not all the switches are fuctional, but everything I would ever use as a Virtual Thunderbird works in the sim.
Posted By: VTB_Lawndart

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/09 11:06 PM

Gunner FTW (in yet another "show your setup"-thread). wink

I've had the privilege to fly his pit a few times, and it's even more impressive in person (especially at night with the backlit panels and guages).
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/20/09 08:23 PM

Originally Posted By: _Lawndart
Gunner FTW (in yet another "show your setup"-thread). wink


If there's a build thread somewhere for this pit, I'd love to see it! smile
Posted By: VTB_Gunner

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/20/09 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Valisk_61

If there's a build thread somewhere for this pit, I'd love to see it! smile


There are two:

http://forum.virtualthunderbirds.com/viewtopic.php?t=1649

http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=449ed6eede82f3bb93e7ae234420e17e&topic=2659.0

If you spend any time over at viperpits.org, you will see that my pit is nothing special compared to some of the masterpieces there. WinkNGrin
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/20/09 09:35 PM

Good lord that is incredible. kneeldown
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/28/09 08:17 PM

You're too modest Gunner - it's an absolute work of art! winner
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/03/09 04:39 PM

hay gunner sweet build , love the seat , nice detail
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/08/09 07:11 PM

Awesome stuff gunner are you single? Bar, Simpit, and computer desk all in one room, please tell me you get to eat the cake too! Very cool again always great to other simmers creations especially when they're top notch like yours.

Which reminds me you guys are really good at inspiring others to start their own builds, can you guys throw in some inspiration to how I can afford this cr@p, one that doesn't involve leaving the Mrs.!
Posted By: VTB_Gunner

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/10/09 12:07 AM

Originally Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander
Awesome stuff gunner are you single? Bar, Simpit, and computer desk all in one room, please tell me you get to eat the cake too!


I'm not single, but I haven't married her either...gives you a little more leverage when they can leave at any time...but not take half your stuff wink Actually she is very supportive, even when I spend 20 hours a week flying with the VTB.
Posted By: propman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/10/09 01:30 AM

Well guys here is my simpit.







Posted By: propman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/10/09 01:56 AM

I still don't quite got the hang of posting pictures yet, so please bear with the newbee.
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/10/09 11:24 AM

That's looking really nice propman - that seat looks great too. What are your plans for the instrument panel?

~S~
Posted By: propman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/10/09 09:32 PM

Thanks Valisk_61. Concerning your question regarding the instrument panel, I'm still doing research as to what is possible. I fly IL2 Sturmovik and I want to interface instruments to the sim but I really need to know what others have done in this community. Perhaps others can post and tell me what is possible in order to have the most realistic sim immersion.
Posted By: DaveKelly

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/11/09 10:20 AM

Have you seen THIS You can use an old computer and monitor. It wont work online though frown
Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/11/09 04:21 PM

PropMan, it looks awesome! Nice layout.
Posted By: propman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/11/09 06:19 PM

D.Kelly thanks so much for the link. I will research DeviceLink a bit further. Propnut thank you for the compliment. Do you think it's possible to interface an original FW190 instrument to IL2 sim? If it is possible, what kind of hardware/software would I need to make this dream a reality? Thanks again
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/11/09 08:59 PM

There is a mod for IL2 that re-enables DeviceLink during online play. I can't recall the name of the site right now, but it's known as "AAA" or something similar.

g.
Posted By: FS_Lewis

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/20/09 09:21 AM

I loved this Fw190 pit Propman......Keep us informed.....Really good

Where are you from?

Posted By: propman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/20/09 11:35 PM

Thanks FS_Lewis. thumbsup
Born in Puerto Rico
Posted By: wasp1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/17/09 03:54 AM

Wow some realy nice stuff sence my last visit !!! keep up the good work people !! just an up date pic of my pit .
Posted By: VTB_Gunner

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/14/09 12:03 AM

Still a work in progress, but Thrustmaster motivated me to add the main instrument panels, HUD, and ICP...lots left to do, but it's coming along.



















Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/14/09 12:17 AM

Apart from all the cool stuff on that pit - I also like the armrest you've jury-rigged. But really, it's all pretty outstanding.
Posted By: VTB_Gunner

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/14/09 12:28 AM

Not at all authentic, but since I don't have side panels, it was my only option. it actually serves a dual purpose - it's made of Lexan, very strong, I use it to help me in and out of the pit.
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/17/09 12:24 AM

Wildest dreams ---------------------------------------------------------------------> Gunner's pit.

Just, WOW.



EDIT: Added more dashes!
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/30/09 02:32 AM

Added a "Dog bone"







Posted By: Jacobs

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/30/09 10:02 PM

Originally Posted By: VTB_Gunner
Not at all authentic, but since I don't have side panels, it was my only option. it actually serves a dual purpose - it's made of Lexan, very strong, I use it to help me in and out of the pit.


Hey Gunner, fantastic! Which F-16 sim are you running? Some F4 version?
Posted By: Donk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/31/09 07:57 AM

Both of those pits are pretty much amazing, nut I gotta ask VTB_gunner do all of those gauges and switches work?
Posted By: F19_CoNa

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/01/10 05:41 PM

Reworked my pit once again, 3rd version now.
It's just getting bigger, but now I´m out of space and it cannot grow any further....until the kids move out that is. wink

Works well with any sim setup: Stick, wheel or yoke, to get it as generic as possible.

Posted By: VTB_Ray

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/01/10 11:17 PM

I had a chance to fly in Gunner's pit this past November and it is really incredible. He really put a lot of time and money into it and it certainly shows.

I didn't get to see it with the ICP/HUD/DED though, he was piecing it together in his garage at the time.

The force sensor stick (no movement, only pressure sensitive) was new to me and it was quite a workout to fly formation with it (18 lbs required for full control deflection), it was extremely precise though.
Posted By: FunkyMan

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/02/10 06:59 PM

Here´s my pit at the moment!

Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/02/10 07:47 PM

Here is a link to my pit project. Dudley Simpit. My tastes wander too much to stick with just one type of mode of transportation, as I enjoy props, jets, helos, cars, and mechs! So I am going with a hybrid approach. It has been slow going up to this point, but I seem to have found the time to get going on it. My goal is to have it constructed and flyable by summer, when it get's too friggin' hot to work in the garage on it anymore!

GrizzlyT, if you read this.. where did you find the switch guards on your Misc control panel? I have been looking and the real ones are WAY to expensive...

Thanks to all who post to SimHQ.. you have all been an inspiration to my project, and I'm sure some of you will hear from me as I tackle the many, Many, MANY 'opportunities to overcome adversity' I expect as I go through the build.

Thanks, Dud
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/03/10 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: DudleyAz
GrizzlyT, if you read this.. where did you find the switch guards on your Misc control panel? I have been looking and the real ones are WAY to expensive...

I found them at Perihelion Design .
They are copies of old NASA X-plane switch guards. (Mine were the gloss black sets.)

Not too expensive either. I think I only paid $6 a pair + S&H.
Posted By: Panther

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/04/10 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Jacobs
Originally Posted By: VTB_Gunner
Not at all authentic, but since I don't have side panels, it was my only option. it actually serves a dual purpose - it's made of Lexan, very strong, I use it to help me in and out of the pit.


Which F-16 sim are you running? Some F4 version?


Lockon Flaming Cliffs with the VTB F-16 Model.
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/04/10 05:26 AM

Thanks GrizzlyT! I'll check into them.
Dud
Posted By: 777 Studios - Jason

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/04/10 05:51 AM

Wow Gunner! Awesome. You other guys have some good stuff too.

Time to build my new pit now that the divorce is official! LOL.

Jason
Posted By: VTB_Gunner

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/05/10 01:39 AM

Originally Posted By: Jacobs
Originally Posted By: VTB_Gunner
Not at all authentic, but since I don't have side panels, it was my only option. it actually serves a dual purpose - it's made of Lexan, very strong, I use it to help me in and out of the pit.


Hey Gunner, fantastic! Which F-16 sim are you running? Some F4 version?


All my flying these days is with the Virtual Thunderbirds, and we fly Lock-On Modern Air Combat(Flaming Cliffs) with the VTB F-16 Mod.

Originally Posted By: Donk
Both of those pits are pretty much amazing, nut I gotta ask VTB_gunner do all of those gauges and switches work?


All the switches we use in LOMAC are functional. Most of the gauges are capable, but I have yet to make them functional. LOMAC is not info-out friendly, and as left wing for the VTB, my world is Bosses missile rail - I never look down at my gauges, so it's not a priority.
Posted By: pheurton

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/23/10 04:04 AM

here's my simple, yet comfortable, setup. i'm almost ashamed to post these pics after going through this entire thread and seeing some the amazing cockpits you guys put together! :P

right now, i'm using a 23" monitor. i actually have a triplehead2go setup right behind it, but i'm liking the single big monitor placed a little closer.

i recently got this to put the X52 pro on:
http://www.getyourmobo.com/

basically, these things attach to the armrests of the chair and each has a "mousepad" that folds out. i'm not sure i'd put a cougar on it, but the X52 is pretty light and it seems sturdy enough.





Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/23/10 05:40 PM

Dude that chair is fantastic! I had struggled for a long time with that concept before moving on with different plans. You really made it come together. Great job!
Posted By: AD

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/10/10 09:36 AM

Xpress pit 2 type pvc pipe pit.

Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/16/10 05:04 PM

Here's my Modular StarFighter/Jet/Mech/Race rig. Set up with 5.1 surround and a plate amp built into the rear sub-wing driving 2 bass transducers mounted to a panel under the seat (which is on sliders). My display is a Sony Bravia 32" TV.

Currently in flight config with FSSB Cougar, RCS pedals, MFDs, TrackIR 5. I'm running Shoot for Voice command and AutoHotKeys for the MFDs.

For driving (but not pictured), I have a home built setup based on the Plasma Lite V2 USB board. The Driving hardware consists of a Grant GT wheel with a center mounted button panel and a race car Q/R hub mounted to a kart steering shaft on ball bearings. For pedals I converted a set of hydraulic sand rail pedals to hook up to the Plasma Lite. I also built a sequential shifter unit with a handbrake (For Richard Burns Rally) and aux switch panel that mounts in place of the stick on the right side.


Work in progress of course...


Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/17/10 05:05 AM

Red,
Nice set up. MDF is my chosen medium for building right now too!

Are you happey with your voice command software? I'm looking for something to use in my pit.

Keep up the good work!
Dud
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/17/10 08:14 PM

Thanks. There are a lot of great builds here. I *might* have taken inspiration or pirated and idea or two along the way... :-p

MDF works great for this kind of thing. I built my set up off a couple of frame rails (1x2 aluminum box tubing) that I installed threaded inserts into. Everything else is bolted to those. I can break it down into panels in about 30 minutes if need be.

Shoot works great for me. There's a bit of a learning curve (for me anyway as I didn't know diddly about xml), but it's easy once you get the hang of it and the functionality is terrific.
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/17/10 10:50 PM

Don't forget to update next time your pit is in driving mode.
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/24/10 01:02 AM

Will do. Could be a while as I'm really wrapped up in TSH4 these days... :-p
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/26/10 06:49 AM

I understand that's my problem too don't want the hassle of switching to racing when I'm playing mostly flight sims these days!
Posted By: Vegas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/05/10 10:18 PM

Hey Red, nice looking pit. What kind of seat is that? And, is it very comfy?
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/16/10 05:19 PM

Thanks.

That's a Corbeau Forza for a race car. Works great for me and I find it very comfortable.

Here's where I got it:

http://www.motorsportseats.com/corbeau/forza.html
Posted By: VF-2 John Banks

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/11/10 11:07 AM

Got a new monitor and new SAITEK Throttle Quadrant.




Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/10 02:00 PM

Here's one I happened upon on the interweb...

Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/10 03:31 PM

I know it's been awhile, but after lots of drama and trama, I am back to working on 'the pit'! The next step will be in making the main instrument panel housing, which I will hopefull start on this weekend. Sorry for all of the clutter in the background, but it seems my pit building domain is also the chosen storage spot for everything being collected for a garage sale next weekend. I HATE having a garage sale... unless I get to use the proceeds for pit building that is!!




Let me hear that input all!
Dud
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/10 06:05 PM

Ghost - Nice find NOW that IS A DESK, I'll bet that guy has Kenny Loggins on cue.........

Dudley - awesome work, good luck with the garage sale! How much for the bed frame...... j/k!
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/30/10 08:58 AM

Originally Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander
Ghost - Nice find NOW that IS A DESK, I'll bet that guy has Kenny Loggins on cue.........


I don't think it's a "guy", per say.
Looking at the dry erase board, the paperwork on the wall, the flooring, etc., it looks like the real deal. (It screams Navy decor.)
I'm guessing it's the squadron reception desk, or maybe the desk in the de-briefing room, or a training room?

VX-31 is the Dust Devils, out of the Air Weapons Station, at China Lake. They're an air test and eval squadron.
My guess is it belongs to them.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/30/10 03:05 PM

GrizzlyT, you are correct. This is the "Duty Desk" in the Ready room. You can read/see more HERE cool
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/30/10 05:40 PM

Glad to hear that's our taxpayers at work and not our tax dollars. Desks like this just scream VIP Flathead Screwdriver flight or $400 dollar toilet seat (must be comfortable) lol!
Posted By: Derk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/05/10 11:27 AM

Hey all,

I moved some stuff around recently and guess what? I was able to double the space for my pc. So now i could finaly build myself a one man helo pit:




Basically it's a 19" tft and two GoFlight units that make up the mip and autopilot control, will add a ProFlight instrument panel to that as standby instrument in the future. the most left console resembles the most right part of the center console and houses my avionics, also to be completed with on more gf166 and a gf-46. the grey one next to it will be housing my collective and a gf-lgtII for gear and trim control.
Also i plan on expanding it with an overhead for engine and lights management in due time.
Posted By: lowwing_99

My Pit/In Flight - 05/09/10 02:09 AM

Here is my pit in flight, 2 short videos taken by the wife holding over an NDB.

My pit is an old Thrustmaster. I fly X-plane 9 with a Cherokee 235 add on. I have 5 computers running 5 seperate views networked in the program. My front OTW view has 3 19" screens 3head2go, instrument panel is a 21"WS, lt.,& rt. views 22" WS, & a 7" for the moving map.
















Posted By: Bong

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/18/10 06:33 PM















My work in Progress. This is an actual surplus f15A procedure cockpit that I found in a barn. The nonfunctioning MFDs will be replaced with Thrustmaster Cougar MFDs and I am adding a Ch MFD to the right console. She's done in a desert camo because I can smile Eventually when I can get the ok Ill hang a larger Tv on the wall. Construction is all steel except for the seat mounts, floor and stick base hump. I used 2 Cougars to make the extended shank for a full throw stick. They can both be returned to stock in about an hour. Heavy dense seat foam and 2 shifter boots add resistance for "feel" in flight. A dogfight in Il2 is quite a workout. Rudders are Simped vario pros. Not as slick as some of the other pits I have seen but those have inspired a pantload of ideas.
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/20/10 12:38 AM

Awesome stuff guys!
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/20/10 08:17 PM

You lucky so and so. biggrin Great find! smile

g.
Posted By: Bong

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/20/10 09:29 PM

We have traded emails before. I found your site when I first got mine. It has been my goto place for instrument layout I was amazed at how hard it is to get good console shots. I am adding thrustmasters couga rpack mdfs and a Ch mdf. I wanted to see how the instruments were so I could get the same type of layout. It wont be as accurate as yours. I dig how far you've gotten on yours. You may remember I accidentally threw out a perfectly good SFS box during rebuild of my setup frown I still kick myself around the house about it every now and then..
Posted By: Floorbug

Floorbug's KA-50/Helo Pit - 05/21/10 06:15 PM















































MI-8 Seat
Thrustmaster Cougar Stick, modified with curved tube
UH-1H Collective, all buttons functional
UH-1H Pedals
Saitek Pro-gamer command unit, hacked up for the FPS panel
Thrustmaster MFD's
BU0836 interface card ties all the axis and buttons together















































BU0836 card





















































































































Floorbug
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Floorbug's KA-50/Helo Pit - 05/21/10 07:27 PM

Floorbug,
Awesome job! I love that you are using real world collective and pedals. Mind giving me some insight on how you modded your Cougar? How did you end up making the connection at both ends of the curved pipe? Is the pipe permanent or can you still shorten up the stick later if you so desire?
Thanks,
Dud
Posted By: Floorbug

Re: Floorbug's KA-50/Helo Pit - 05/21/10 07:42 PM

Thanks for the cudo's. Changing the stick back to it's original configuration would be tough. I basically modified the portion that comes out of the grip by grinding it down (it is fairly light weight cast aluminum) then cutting threads into it, so that it could be threaded into a piece of ninety degree pvc...I suppose I could try to order that particular part from thrustmaster, therby returning it to original. The bottom portion is a smaller thin alumninum pipe that fits into the larger curved pipe, I then took some channel locks and slowly worked my way around the edges flairing it so that I then could use the existing grey locking ring. I then simply soldered an extension to the wiring and viola an extended Cougar. It is only extended 12 inches, anything further makes the throws extremly unrealistic. Im not much of an electric jet jockey, so really this configuration fits me for most of the other A/C I like...A-10, AH-1,64....F4U Corsair etc..etc.

Floorbug
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Floorbug's KA-50/Helo Pit - 05/22/10 12:43 AM

That collective is boss man!
Posted By: pakfront

Re: Floorbug's KA-50/Helo Pit - 05/22/10 04:34 AM

Sweet heli-pit. How about some closeups of your stick and collective?
Posted By: Floorbug

Re: Floorbug's KA-50/Helo Pit - 05/23/10 12:15 PM

Here are a couple more shots...first the gearing and potentiometer for the collective, quite simple really.















































Side view before left and right consoles installed.














































Finally another left angle view.

Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Floorbug's KA-50/Helo Pit - 05/24/10 05:48 PM

I just love the use of a real collective!!! thumbsup

I am totally envious of that seat! eek2

And I am somehow strangely calmed, by the duality of a war machine simulator back-dropped with shelves of cute little dolls?! screwy
Posted By: pakfront

Re: Floorbug's KA-50/Helo Pit - 05/24/10 10:59 PM

Thanks for the close-ups! Does this collective have a twist grip for the throttle?
Posted By: Dishnu

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/07/10 01:47 PM

Just starting out on mine.

Posted By: DarrylH

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/08/10 06:33 AM

Mike D, nice start with the AB. What are your plans for the next one or additions(as you said "starting out")?

Floorbug..love the collective!
Posted By: DarrylH

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/08/10 06:45 AM

Viper "almost" complete:













And the Spitfire which is all but finished apart from some detailing, piping and monitor tray:















.

Currently completing a repaint of the interior in a darker colour.
Posted By: 453Raafspitty

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/08/10 09:30 AM

You have been a busy boy..Love the viper smile
Posted By: DarrylH

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/08/10 02:43 PM

You wouldn't love it if you'd had to do the 6000 odd soldering connections*G*

Yep. years worth of work there until I got sidetracked!!

Anytime you're comming over this way, let me know.
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/08/10 04:52 PM

Amazing work DarrylH, its not enough to have one incredible build is it? jawdrop
Posted By: Dishnu

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/08/10 05:20 PM

Thanks DarrylH
i am Planning on upgrading the AB pit over time i have already modded the design by adding 8 inches to the height of the Chassis.
as it stands now i have Voice Activated Command and the Trustmaster Afterburner Hotas
In the future i Hope to have a pair of MFD's new Joystick and Pedals, and Freetrack.(working on that now).
I want to get the Keyboard to Slide out from under the dash.
then there is the standard stuff, Painting and cushins for the Seat. I would like to Mod the seat to look more like a Ejector seat...
Posted By: DarrylH

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/09/10 01:06 AM

Originally Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander
Amazing work DarrylH, its not enough to have one incredible build is it? jawdrop



Thank you sir!!! You are too kind. (and the camera is VERY kind to my work, it doesn't look anywhere near as good IRL)

My main problem now is that I have run out of space so I can't build any more. If I had room I would build a Twin Otter next, then a Tiger Moth, then a Sopwith Camel, but that probably takes me up to about 2025, a second house and on to (approx) the third or fourth wife from now... smile wink



Darryl
Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/14/10 02:15 PM

Darry, impressive man.......hmmmmm I must go back to the drawing board now....hmmm....
Posted By: pakfront

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/18/10 04:57 PM

Now for something a little simpler!



Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/18/10 08:33 PM

Nice work Pakfront really coming along!
Posted By: pakfront

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/18/10 09:41 PM

Thanks! Just added the little CRT last night to try out TouchBuddy and TouchPal. Works ok but I think a little touchscreen might be a better answer.... or maybe I should get a bigger monitor instead? Ah, so many options.
Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/05/10 01:01 AM

Here are the latest pics of the pit. I cut new sides for it and mounted them on hinges so it can fit through doorways and also not take up so much space when I'm not using it.

I plan on boxing the frame in to make it look a little neater, and painting the frame gray and staining the visible wood black.

To make it easier to move around, there is a large handle on the back. I'm going to add wheels to the front so you can lift it up the back and the front will be on the wheels. (think wheelbarrow)

The seat cushions are from a regular roll-around office chair. The bottom cushion is mounted onto the metal frame from a pressure washer. The pressure washer frame also makes up the handle on the back. It actually worked out really well!

Game on the screen is DCS: Blackshark. I plan on buying DCS: Warthog, when it comes out. I may add two MFDs at that time. I also play FSX, IL2, ROF, and LOMAC FC2.



















Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/05/10 09:59 PM

My lovely wife Kendall:



Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/05/10 10:26 PM

Umm...without a doubt...the greatest pictures of a simpit that I have ever seen....you lucky lucky man you. smile
Posted By: Cali

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/06/10 04:49 PM

She is a keeper! Unless she is only smiling cause she gets to go shopping afterwards. I need to fix me something thats better then this table.
Posted By: Boandlgramer

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/06/10 06:04 PM

Without doubt, walker, you are a real lucky person. thumbsup
Posted By: Cali

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/06/10 06:33 PM

I just noticed she is flying the A-10 in lock on....right into the ground! EYES ON TARGET WOMAN!
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/06/10 09:22 PM

Damn I can get my wife to let me buy and keep my toys but she won't actually pose with them!
Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/06/10 10:29 PM

I told her about all the comments and she is quite flattered. smile

I'll post more pics of the put once I actually "finish" it. I still need to add a few things and stain/paint it.
Posted By: Cali

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/07/10 02:13 AM

Make sure you tell her to "pull up"
Posted By: KRT_Bong

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/07/10 07:01 PM

You know I frequently, lurk thru threads where there might be the odd interesting bits and as I scrolled through endless pics of modest cockpits amazing bits of kit work and then i got to Walkers..
now the photos are big so I've quite a bit of scrolling to do there's the office, a couple views of that and it's nice. Then we got the left side and of course the right, reverse angles on both, oh and a mess of wires, well I must say he's proud of his project, I kind of like to have something like that in my own man-cave,Then Oh no, not more pics.Oh my.. gaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wd!
I'm speechless that is soo historical, the man has got him his own WAAC!
Keep your spitfire and F-16 cockpits I gotta build me one of them!
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/29/10 06:32 AM

The Dudley Multi-Sim Pit is ALIVE!
I am happy to announce that I gave birth to a 700 pound baby simpit this weekend!




Construction is complete, painting is accomplished, and re-assembly has commenced. All of the big stuff is attached, and this weekend I will start with the electronics. My next move is to start on the actual switch panels and wiring. Hopefully it will move along faster than this part has so far.

It supports all three modes of any good multi-sim pit:

Plane mode


Helo mode(The collective will go into the space accessible once the throttle is rotated out of the way. I still have to build the collective too!) sigh


Car mode


If you want to see a time lapse of the assembly and some other pics, go to: http://cnadeau.webs.com/simpitbuild.htm

I know I still have a ways to go, but I want to thank all of you who have posted to this thread. It provided a lot of motivation and ideas for me to make it to this point.
Dud
Posted By: Cali

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/29/10 07:12 PM

Nice, I want a 3 screen hook up.
Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/30/10 10:42 PM

Got some new pics to show off... smile This time I used a lot better camera... and a different model...



Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/01/10 01:47 PM



Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/01/10 04:35 PM

@Walker450: I noticed your stick and throttle are coming at an angle away from your chair. Was there a specific reason you chose to have them sort of "twisted" outwards as opposed to facing forwards? I'm sort of struggling with a hotas placement issue so I sort of noticed that right away.
Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/10 02:30 AM

They are not mounted to the desktop so I just rotate them for my comfort, they feel better to me that way. I'm not too concerned about being accurate since I fly multiple games anyways.
Posted By: Squid_DK

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/03/10 09:04 PM

I'd chime in, not too tidy at the moment



Staffan
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/10 10:26 PM

My still WIP rig

1st build


the TV build


most recent rebuild, with touch screen, triplehead2go and extended cougar. next on the list is 2 more 24 inch monitors plus a triple stand
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/10 11:05 PM

Thats awesome Skunk always love the generic pits! Naturally I'm biased since my own pit is generic but still nice work!
Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/17/10 11:19 PM

+1 for generic pits! smile
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/10 01:26 AM

That PVC rig is pretty neat. You should publish plans for it!

It would look neat skinned in Coroplast too.

g.
Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/10 09:19 PM

Originally Posted By: skunk160
most recent rebuild, with touch screen,...
Is that a MIMO UM-710?
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/10 09:22 PM

I just made it up as I went along....more luck than judgement
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/10 09:24 PM

Originally Posted By: JAMF
Originally Posted By: skunk160
most recent rebuild, with touch screen,...
Is that a MIMO UM-710?


cant rememeber off hand, looks like it from google, its the touch screen version
Posted By: Hellmann

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/19/10 01:40 AM

I recently did up a PVC tube pit myself and was wondering how you managed to attach the n52te?
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/19/10 07:45 PM

Hi Guys,
I've been viewing this list of fantastic pits for a while and I now hope my own is in a suitable state to show for the first time.

It's a Comanche pit based around the EECH game and uses Opencockpits interface cards with SIOC program to make all the swithes and lights work. Still got a lot of work to do, but thought it was time I showed it here.

Cheers,

Andy







Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/19/10 09:15 PM

AndyB! eek You've been holding out on us! Great lookin' pit!
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/19/10 11:18 PM

That's just awesome. Can't wait to see it hooked up to the projector. ~S~
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/20/10 05:31 AM

Hmmm....A Comanche pit based on EECH?.... What's not to love! WinkNGrin

I noticed a few new panels, I haven't seen yet. Cool!
It's really coming together nicely Andy!!!

thumbsup
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/20/10 12:22 PM

Thanks for the words of encouragement guys. Much appreciated.

Grizzly,
Yeah! have another couple still to go. Had a problem with the Opencockpits master board. They advertised it as having 64 digital outputs which would have covered all my lamps, VSI and slip guages. When I actually tried to set it up I found out that it only has 54. The others are allocated to the display card extension.

Luckily they're pretty decent guys and they accepted the error was theirs. We agreed a compromise that I'd get a display board kit for half price. That now drives the chaff/flares counters, but it means I don't have the spare outputs for the slip guage.

As I've now got drive for 12 further 7 segment displays I'm thinking of making a zulu time clock to fit above the MFDs.

How's your pit ? Back together yet ?

Cheers,

Andy
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/20/10 04:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Hellmann
I recently did up a PVC tube pit myself and was wondering how you managed to attach the n52te?


self tapping screw under the removeable hand rest...took a gamble there was no wiring in that section
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/23/10 12:21 PM

Originally Posted By: AndyB

How's your pit ? Back together yet ?
Andy


They say a picture's worth a thousand words. (Although, I'm not sure of the conversion factor, for profanities?!)

Cuss



banghead banghead



pitchafit pitchafit pitchafit

Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/23/10 02:20 PM

eek sigh
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/23/10 02:49 PM

Holly #%&*$# Grizzly,

It looks a lot bigger in the boxes (as the actress said to ....).

Hope nothing was damaged in the shift, or did you do that your self.

It won't take you long to get it back together again.

Cheers,

Andy
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/24/10 02:57 AM

No damage! bottles (I used an insane amount of bubble-wrap.)
Plus, I moved it all myself. I think my friends and family thought me a little insane, given the care I took.
That's just how many pieces it took, to get my boat out of the old basement!

I promise it will be back together just as soon as I knock down a few of the major items, on my "honey do" list.

When I do, they'll be some new things to show for it, too.
Just before I took it apart, I finished getting all the indicators functioning, added a VSI and a slip gauge, and got both of the main MFDs converted over to functioning LCDs.
Should be plenty of new pics!
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/10 06:25 PM

Here I am between pits...


Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/10 06:29 PM

hey Ghost, I like the chair mod. The switch panel looks pretty slick also.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/10 08:08 PM

Thanks PropNut. Just threw it together to tide me over. The seat "mod" attaches to the bottom of the chair so that if we need a chair for company, four screws, and it's off. The switch panel as well, knobs, Franken-Potato wink
Posted By: LukeFF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/08/10 08:52 AM

I like it. smile
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/08/10 02:20 PM

Thanks Luke. It's actually pretty comfy!
Posted By: bofman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/08/10 11:21 PM

This is my current deskpit, designed around F4AF. It will change I feel when the A10-C stuff is released whoohoo



I built this proto panel hoping I could get the switches to interface with the sim software and because my electronics knowledge is very basic, I am really happy that it actually works. I dont have the space nor the knowhow to build a proper pit, my aim is simply to be able to fly the sim without using the mouse or keyboard. I haven't achieved that yet but I'm sure having some fun. BTW, it really does add to the immersion factor!



This is what it looked like underneath before all the wiring was installed and the switches not yet connected.



It did get somewhat messy after that but hey, no one can see it sept for you guys notworthy

Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/10 12:51 AM

Ho-ly - that's all pretty cool.
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/10 10:51 PM

Whoa! That's one hell of a lot of buttons!

The switchbox looks great.
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/10 11:52 PM

Great wire management and awesome panels!
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/10/10 04:09 PM

bofman - any more pics? switch breakdown?
Posted By: Derk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/10/10 07:08 PM

Nice setup bofman, ghost!
I just scrapped the helo pit i built some time ago. Between the lack of free time and the constant fiddling and positioning of set-ups, controls, screens, etc. I just didn't get much flight time lately. The pit has become a distraction to the actual simming, instead of being the immersion factor it should be. Like another member here set somewhere else: The simming experience became more important than the actual simming. So here i am back to nothing but a desk, an X52 and a set of Saitek Pro Flight pedals, but at least i'm flying. For the near future i have set my mind on a more simple deskpit setup that also allows for other pc gaming and general use.
Let's say i plan to keep it SIMple!
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/10/10 07:56 PM

Excellent build Boffman !

Makes my wiring look pretty scrappy ( then again, I'm only half way through... ).

Love the panels. are they perspex based ?

Keep the photos coming.

Cheers,

Andy
Posted By: GrizzlyT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/11/10 12:23 PM

Very impressive panel design!!! thumbsup

I wonder if you would share your methods for fabricating the faceplates?
Specifically, how did you do your text and graphics labeling?
Posted By: bofman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/12/10 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Derk
Nice setup bofman, ghost!
The pit has become a distraction to the actual simming, instead of being the immersion factor it should be. Like another member here set somewhere else: The simming experience became more important than the actual simming. So here i am back to nothing but a desk, an X52 and a set of Saitek Pro Flight pedals, but at least i'm flying.


I know exactly what you mean Derk. Building these pits is very time consuming. It looks simple enough but there is so much work required to achieve the end result, however, I love doing this stuff.

Initially I too found I was flying less but that was a good thing because it's like the old saying 'absence makes the heart grow fonder'.

Now that the prototype panel is done, I will stick with that for a while and keep flying the F16 on Falcon4.(At least until DCS Warthog comes out) Flying the viper is one of my hobbies and I'm not interested in any other gaming whatsoever.
Posted By: bofman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/12/10 02:28 AM

Originally Posted By: GrizzlyT
Very impressive panel design!!! thumbsup

I wonder if you would share your methods for fabricating the faceplates?
Specifically, how did you do your text and graphics labeling?


Thanks for all the good comments guys.

My faceplate is made from 3mm aluminium (I think you States guys call it aluminum) sheet. I chose this because I thought it would be easy to drill and cut, but it aint that easy! Also because it spans about 400mm it needed to be rigid and not flex when pressing buttons.

After cutting it to the desired dimensions, I then commenced the actual panel design incorporating the switches and functions I use most often that are not assigned to my TM Hotas. Some of these functions are not actually part of the F16 itself, but functions of the sim software like hud colour etc.

I purchased on Ebay an old version of Corel Draw to handle the graphics. You need a half decent draw programme and V12 of CorelDraw was cheap and more than sufficient. The switchpanel facia is a composite of a few drawings grouped together to achieve one overall .jpg image. I also drew a second 'layer' to the image onto which I placed marks for the centre of each drill hole for the aluminium sheet. I printed that out with just the border and the centre marks onto normal white paper and used it as a template for centre punching the drill holes. That way I was able to achieve accurate drilling and image alignment without touching the photo.

A couple of the individual panel drawings



I took the completed image saved in .tif format, to one of those stores that process your digital images into photos and for a few bucks, they produced the image as a photo in twenty minutes. I am impressed with the quality of the picture produced in matte finish. I then used a wad punch to make the switch holes.




That was glued onto the pre-drilled backing plate (hinged for easy access to the interface boards)and everything lined up perfectly.


I have learned from this exercise to keep future panels to a smaller, more manageable size. Handling the graphics and the switch wiring would be a lot easier if panels were kept to say 6 x 4 inch, which is also a standard photo size. I am giving thought now to backlighting which will require the use of perspex or plexiglass, so the smaller panels will increase the strength.
Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/12/10 01:54 PM

That hinged access idea is great. thumbsup
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/19/10 02:33 AM

Okay, it was time to go big, or go home. So, I went BIG...




That's 32" of gaming goodness cheers
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/19/10 06:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Derk
Nice setup bofman, ghost!
I just scrapped the helo pit i built some time ago. Between the lack of free time and the constant fiddling and positioning of set-ups, controls, screens, etc. I just didn't get much flight time lately. The pit has become a distraction to the actual simming, instead of being the immersion factor it should be. Like another member here set somewhere else: The simming experience became more important than the actual simming. So here i am back to nothing but a desk, an X52 and a set of Saitek Pro Flight pedals, but at least i'm flying. For the near future i have set my mind on a more simple deskpit setup that also allows for other pc gaming and general use.
Let's say i plan to keep it SIMple!


i definitly know what you mean..

but sometimes you see the extravagant setups, one gets inspired to build such extravagant setups and pits...

what started it all for me was battlefield 2, where i had an original xbox controller 's' when i would fly the helicopters and planes...
playing that game was just pure bliss..

i built a helicopter pit for black shark, took 9 months to build, only really saw maybe 3 months of use, albiet it was effin awesome to use, a friend used it, landed the Ka-50 like a champ, not even had played any type of sim what so ever, let alone a dedicated helicopter sim.

but i love the process of building pits.. this time im making two very simple pits, and i agree about keeping it simple..
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/19/10 06:27 PM

Great screen. Can you tell me manufacturer and also a strange request, when you are flying, how far away is it from your eyes.

Also, is that an actual computer display or is it a TV that you are using a display?

Thank you.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/19/10 06:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Corsair8X
Great screen. Can you tell me manufacturer


Toshiba

Originally Posted By: Corsair8X
and also a strange request, when you are flying, how far away is it from your eyes.


36"

Originally Posted By: Corsair8X
Also, is that an actual computer display or is it a TV that you are using a display?

Thank you.


Yes, it's a computer display and yes, it can be used as a TV display. You're welcome. cheers
Posted By: Corsair8X

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/20/10 12:56 AM

Thanks for the info. Looking into bigger displays as well as distance others have from their eyes.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/13/10 10:26 PM

popcorn be damned! Stay tuned for pix of my new cockpit! Probably a couple page write up too...
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/16/10 04:08 AM

With a couple mods...

Ghost's OBUTTO...







Still a couple tweaks, but almost there...
Posted By: citizen guod

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/16/10 04:23 AM

Good job Ken! I'm going to steal shamelessly from your case mounting idea. That's perfect!

Nice "X" strap to workaround the VESA monitor mounting too.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/16/10 05:08 AM

Still tweaking. I'll post more pix as I can. This has been a very busy week/end.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/16/10 08:23 PM

Wired for sound...



Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/17/10 02:46 PM

X-530? You're still looking for a way to mount the centre speaker over the screen? What are you going to do with the Hannspree(?) display.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/17/10 03:06 PM

Hi JAMF,

Originally Posted By: JAMF
X-530?


If you mean Former VMFA 531 Grey Ghost, yes I am, 78-82.

Originally Posted By: JAMF
You're still looking for a way to mount the centre speaker over the screen?


Actually sitting on top of the case works pretty well.

Originally Posted By: JAMF
What are you going to do with the Hannspree(?) display.


I have an older computer that will put it to use.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/17/10 03:09 PM

DOH!

Close, previous version to the X530
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/18/10 04:34 PM

Originally Posted By: Chris Dunagan
When I designed the cockpit I chose an open solid design in hopes of people modding them like crazy to meet their individual needs..."


Stay tuned, more to follow...
Posted By: Vanderstok

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/25/10 05:49 PM

Well here's mine...finally put some paint on it and made a new flight stick that uses Hall sensors. As you can see I fly prop sims only (WW1 & WW2) smile


Posted By: BadBud

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/25/10 07:18 PM

My very simple pit with X45 controllers at confortable fixed operating position.
BadBud
www.simflite.com


Posted By: RatBastid

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/29/10 04:28 AM

Just starting to get back into sims and decided to finally build me something that resembles a pit so heres a work in progress. It looks wide well because it is but not to wide for me. I am 6'5" and have a arm span to match so its pretty comfy for me. Not sure what else i can get to add as im trying to keep it simple and use usb devices. I have a 10 port usb that should be here tomorrow that will be mounted on the top back. This is designed to slide on and off the desk as needed. The best i could talk the wife into seeing that she wasnt thrilled at all about an actual pit sitting in the family room biggrin

Posted By: Reschke

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/29/10 03:12 PM

Nice concept there Rat.
Posted By: RatBastid

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/30/10 08:46 PM

Heres an updated pic of my desk pit finished for the most part til i find some more goodies to add to it. Would love to find a landing gear panel with active lights to add to it. To bad Saitek's modules only work with FSX I would love to add a couple of those to it sigh


Posted By: Feed

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/31/10 05:35 AM

I suppose it's time for me to join in here ...

This started out as just something to hold my stick & throttle in place, and has infected me. Still very much a work in progress, certainly inspired by all the A-10 stuff coming out right now, but the end goal is a generic pit for flying pretty much anything.



I've now got to start figuring out how to work with SIOC and all that fun stuff! biggrin

Feedback (as always) is welcomed!
Posted By: RatBastid

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/31/10 03:20 PM

Hey Feed what are you using for the dispays behind the MFD's? Looks great definitely puts my pit to shame.
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/31/10 04:42 PM

Hi Feed,
Congratulations on coming out and admitting your obsession.......

Very nice pit. Are you intending putting panels on the side consoles or just printouts ?

I'm about half way through my own build and have been working with SIOC for a wee while now ( have Master card, USBkeys, USBlcd and USBdisplays cards from Opencockpits). If I can be of any help please email me at andyb(at)uk8(dot)net.

I got a lot of information from Nico Kaan's site ( http://www.lekseecon.nl/sioc.html ) on SIOC. Couldn't understand the Opencockpits user manual at all.

Cheers,

Andy
Posted By: bofman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/31/10 11:40 PM

Originally Posted By: AndyB
Hi Feed,
Congratulations on coming out and admitting your obsession.......

Very nice pit. Are you intending putting panels on the side consoles or just printouts ?

I'm about half way through my own build and have been working with SIOC for a wee while now ( have Master card, USBkeys, USBlcd and USBdisplays cards from Opencockpits). If I can be of any help please email me at andyb(at)uk8(dot)net.

I got a lot of information from Nico Kaan's site ( http://www.lekseecon.nl/sioc.html ) on SIOC. Couldn't understand the Opencockpits user manual at all.

Cheers,

Andy


Does SIOC only work with MS sims?
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/31/10 11:44 PM

Nice pits guys!
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/01/10 09:04 AM

Bofman,

No, it'll work with EECH and Falcon as well.

I've only got Opencockpits cards in my pit so I don't know if it would work with other types of interface boards. It uses the IOCP protocol to communicate with the hardware so I suppose if your hardware can talk like that then it would work.

Cheers,

Andy
Posted By: Feed

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/01/10 05:38 PM

Thanks for the kind words, guys!

@RatBastid - I'm just using another monitor that spans across both MFDs. There's a lexan sheet with a vinyl sticker 'faceplate' on it that has some cutouts (kinda hard to see in the photo) designed to frame the ADI, VSI, etc. I'm not really happy with the sticker face, and will probably end up pulling it off and either re-designing the layout, or making a cardstock cover. Having something there that's actually opaque makes it 'seem' less like just another monitor. I'm very happy with the solution, even though there's definitely a performance hit on my aging maching (Core2Duo 3GHz/2GB RAM/Radeon 4850+TH2Go) running 4 monitors.

@AndyB - I think I've looked at that site, but I can't be sure - I'll definitely keep you in mind as a resource. I've kinda jumped in with both feet, with a MasterCard, USB Expansion (of course), 2 display cards, and a USBlcd card. I've been able to make an lcd say "hello world", but that's about it. I definitely have plans to make the side panels functional, but still in the planning phase. I did a quick tally of the controls that are printed on the panel faces, and stopped counting at 100 inputs - so I either need to budget for another MasterCard or two, or figure out where I'm going to short-cut on controls (like using a selector switch for radio tuners, instead of modeling each radio). I really can't even say I've *started* working on that, but I literally picked up a 5V power supply for the MasterCard TODAY. smile

@Bafman - As I understand it, they can be used with any application, to some degree. The limiting factor is the ability to get information to and from the OpenCockpits software and application. The OpenCockpits software is already set up to interact directly with FSUIPC, which interacts directly with MSFS - so that's a significant bonus. For other apps, you may be limited to simply sending keystrokes to control another sim. I've seen tidbits around about people using them in conjunction with the DCS series, or using lua scripting, but I don't know the specifics. I'll be looking for that info, too. I am certainly not your best source of information on that one - maybe AndyB will chime in on that one. smile

Incidentally, I also got one of Hagstrom's KE-USB108 boards - and while I originally thought that would be my primary interface (since it allows emulation of mouse clicks and joystick buttons), as I learn more, I think the OpenCockpits stuff is far more powerful. I wish I'd simply gone 100% OpenCockpits to begin with.
Posted By: thesimulatorstore

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/14/10 04:15 PM

Would you like to build your own realistic (metal) F/A-18 Legacy Hornet or Super Hornet cockpit?

I am selling quality F/A-18 A,B,C,D,E,F cockpit parts at www.thesimulatorstore.com

We also offer cds, posters and plans for the serious simbuilder.

They make great birthday and holiday gifts!!!!

Check my web site out. I have a HUD but it is bent a little....



Steve Patterson
Former Marine A-4 carrier pilot
Posted By: thesimulatorstore

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/14/10 04:45 PM

I just opened a store to sell F-18 cockpit parts

I saw your cockpit and have parts now that i am sure you would be interested in.

www.thesimulatorstore.com

Let me know what you think...

Thanks

Steve
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/14/10 06:03 PM

Hi Feed,

Why not go for 1 or more USBkeys boards.

Matrix of 11 x 8 = 88 individual inputs which you can specify what keystrokes they generate within the encoder program. You can even have shift.control and alt combinations.

Plug it straght in to the PC running the sim and it acts like a USB keyboard.

Anyway, just a thought.

Good luck,

Andy
Posted By: Feed

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/20/10 03:39 PM

That's what I was originally thinking with the Hagstrom card, but using OpenCockpits opens up the possibility for indicators, conditional programming, and then you're not dependent on 'only' using keyboard commands or joystick button signals for operation.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/20/10 04:55 PM

Did some cosmetic work to finish what I could see. I'll get to the shelf unit modification as time permits...






You know what they say, "Once you go black..." wink
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/23/10 07:05 PM


Ive lost count ..I think this is rebuild #5, its a real 10 footer so treating its as a mockup when Im happy with the layout I'll look into getting it CNC'd out of a single piece...or I'll cover it in Bondo and get more than 2 straight edges out of it

plan is for the 15 in on the far left to be replaced with another 24in and move down between the MFCD's for guages (which I'm hoping is doable at some point) the center touch screen will be the UFC, with tabs for Comms etc with two 8inch USB screens mounted behind the MFD frames (I have the L & R MFCD's displaying on the touch screen at the moment)

Ive got a ton of toggles to mount, just finishing a generic Trim/AP panel to sink in the hole behind the Throttle, I plan on makeing actiula side pedastals for the left and right consoles...and painting obviously



Posted By: Feed

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/24/10 01:22 PM

Nice diggs, Skunk!!
Posted By: Geedee

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/26/10 11:48 PM

Wow !.

Hi guys 'n' gal's. Just joined the site and I can see that this is THE place to come to for info on 'pits. Got to say there are some very ingenious set-ups here, very impressed.

I'm in the slow process of building a full scale P-51D 'Procedures Trainer'. Still got a long way to go before I'm looking at setting up the controls to a pc tho'. I've attached a few shots of how she looks at the moment. Still got to make the front windshield assembly and then start on the PC interface.

For info, I use the 'Wings of Power' P-51D a for FS2004 and the standalone P-51D by Flight1 for when I'm on FSX. To re-iterate, she's not connected to a flight sim yet....but most definately will be !!!

I was initially thinking about a mechanical linkage from the control column to the PC 'stick' and something on the lines of 'pushrods' from the rudder assembly to a PC rudder setup. Having gone through this thread, I'm having a major rethink !!. Rest assured, there will be a shed load of questions as I continue. Any help gratefully recieved.







Didn't realise that Darryl (Spitfire) was on here as well.

Hoefully I've figured out how to attach a few shots of my 'pit'. At the moment, its not setup for a 'sim, but as its being built with a view to being a full blown procedures trainer, it will be !.
Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/27/10 07:00 PM

Really sweet looking pit you got there!! Where did you find that grip, ebay or something?? Keep up the great work!!
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/28/10 02:50 PM

Very impressive GeeDee,

Instead of tying up PC sticks and rudder pedals, why not have the hardware operate on 100k pots connected to one of Leo Bodnar's interface boards like the BU0836. That gives you 8 axis (2 for stick, 1 for pedals, 1 or 2 for throttles and plenty of spares ) plus 32 switch inputs.

Good luck, and welcome to the forum,

Andy
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/28/10 05:40 PM

I know it's not very modest for a first post here WinkNGrin, but this is my ACES2 homebuild replica"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeeaTix6cy0

Ralph aka Catcher
Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/28/10 05:58 PM

Modest, hell! That is awesome! Me likey smile
Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/28/10 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By: AndyB
Very impressive GeeDee,


Agreed, very nice cockpit.


Originally Posted By: AndyB
Instead of tying up PC sticks and rudder pedals, why not have the hardware operate on 100k pots connected to one of Leo Bodnar's interface boards like the BU0836. That gives you 8 axis (2 for stick, 1 for pedals, 1 or 2 for throttles and plenty of spares ) plus 32 switch inputs.

He'll need 2 axes for the stick, 3 for pedals with separate L/R brakes, 3 for throttle/mixture/pitch. That's those 8 spoken for.

For Maddox's Storm of War, there will be more axes mappable. Trim (3), Flaps, Slats, Gear, Airbrake, Turbo, Radiator, Cooler and more...
Posted By: Geedee

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/28/10 08:09 PM

Hi guys, thanks for your interest in my '51 and also for your advice on the control interface side of things.

A little bit about my '51. She's scratch built in Aluminium, full scale, using North American Avaition blueprints. I'm using original equipment where I can, and making what I cant.....or at least having ago at making it !!!!. The armour plate on the fire-wall is good ol' MDF, and the floor is 3/4 ply. I've made a box section chassis, again out 3/4 ply with fully castoring wheels so she is mobile....but getting bl**dy heavy !!!!. If anyone wants details on how I've got to where I am, drop me a line and I'll help out as much as I can. Would you guys be interestd if I did a thread on the build to date, bearing in mind she's not connected to a flight sim yet ?.

Some of the stuff, like the trim wheels and the parking brake lever are full size cast resin items (cast using the original item) that me and a mate are developing. We are also looking at producing a full size kit made out of MDF, resin instrument bezels, high def photos of instruments and the instrument glasses, of the P-51D instrument panel (we can also do earlier versions) and immediately after the Christmas break are going to start a selection of control grips for the '51, 47, and the F4U. These will be resin cast and can be either a solid one peice item or split into sections as per the original grip for wiring purposes.

I was intending on using mechanical connections to a PC joystick setup, but I can see now that this is a bulky and not very effective way of making the interface. I'm fortunate in that the '51 has a cockpit floor that sits about 4 inches above the top of the wing itself, so I've got a bit of space to play with under the flooring. The '51 control column is attached to a torque tube for aileron input and a pushrod for elevator. What I have to do now is figure out how to use the stuff you guys are suggesting (all sounds very comlicated !) and mount it.

Then I can sit in my own '51 and go fly !.

Thanks again for your input.
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/28/10 08:40 PM

Hi GeeDee,

What I've found out during the building of my own pit (Comanche - still ongoing!) is that you need lots of nylon or plastic gears.

i.e. fitting a rotary potentiometer to the end of the torque tube of the stick would only give you around 10 degrees (I'm guessing) of rotation from full forward to full back. Ideally, you want to use as much of the 270 degrees rotation of the pot as you can.

Fit a large gear to the end of the tube and a small gear to the pot with a tooth ratio of something like 16:1 (i.e. 160 teeth on the big gear and 10 teeth on the small one) and your stick now moves the pot through 160 degrees. Simple in'it...

Biggest problem I've had is finding the gears. Luckily I'm a computer tech in a college and have been able to strip and scavenge any faulty laser printers that were being scrapped. You've no idea how many gears are in one of these things!!!

You can also use linear motion to turn the pot using a rack. That's where the gear teeth are laid out flat. As the rack is pushed along it turns the gear on the pot.

Hope all this mince helps you anyway,

Cheers,

Andy
Posted By: TOKA

Conceptual Design Stage - 12/02/10 07:10 AM

Working on the conceptual design, refining it from time to time... execution will start right after i get my TM Hotas Warthog


Posted By: RAF74_Raptor

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/03/10 11:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Feed
I suppose it's time for me to join in here ...

This started out as just something to hold my stick & throttle in place, and has infected me. Still very much a work in progress, certainly inspired by all the A-10 stuff coming out right now, but the end goal is a generic pit for flying pretty much anything.



I've now got to start figuring out how to work with SIOC and all that fun stuff! biggrin

Feedback (as always) is welcomed!





Never Mind I reread your post that answered my questions
Posted By: Skater

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/04/10 09:34 PM

Originally Posted By: *Panther*
Nothing fancy, just a few pieces of wood and nails:



It was completely overhauled a few weeks back. Several modification that shorten it, added more shelves, and eliminated the majority of the wiring from being exposed. I can not stand a bundle of wires, plus I have a cat that has a cord chewing problem.


Panther, do you have any plans for your pit? I have been looking to do something similar...


-Skater
Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/20/10 03:29 AM

Update: Extended my ST290 and placed it under the desk, so it comes up through a hole. Works great and saves some desk space. Also went to a triple view setup with SoftTH. Will experiment with keeping the ABRIS and Targeting screens in the future. For now, it is one or the other. smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpTjmMTnKiI [YOUTUBE]0Judp-s7ENM[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYTEYNcQQ6A [YOUTUBE]tpTjmMTnKiI[/YOUTUBE]



Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/04/11 08:10 PM

rebuild #6 (i think) 85% done

still to do, paint pipework matt black to match dash surround, scotch brite the ally to match dash, decide on practical switch placement (theres a lot of empty real estate as you can see) and print graphics, wire up the Bodnar and Desktop Aviator USB boards, replace 4:3 monitor with matching 24in and (if it EVER turns up from Mounted Concepts, Inc.) a triple monitor stand

...then work out how to fit it all in a gimbal'd chassis driven by linear electric motors xwing




Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/04/11 09:26 PM

Very nice Walker.

Really like to joystick coming up through the hole... is it motorised ? That would be so cool!

Is there a blanking disk for the hole normally ?

Well done sir!

Andy
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/04/11 09:31 PM

Hi Skunk,

I love the way you've integrated the Cougars with the LCD monitor. Very clever.

Cheers,

Andy
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/08/11 05:25 PM

Here are some shots of a simple Desktop pit a buddy and I put together over the weekend for his use. Construction was really simple using 1" PVC with some MDF platforms for mounting the controls. Total investment (sans controls) is less than $100.00.









The desktop portion has two TM MFDs spaced to allow future USB monitors behind them, spaces for future GoFlight or similar control panels on each side of the MFDs, a platform for a 23" monitor in the middle, with enough space on each side of that for speakers to sit. There are a couple of cutouts for some stand future add on stand alone switchs below the speaker pedestals.








Being that it is a center stick, I also modded his CH stick to offset it by 15 degrees to make flying more comfortable. Pretty easy mod that took about an hour.





We'll shoot more photos when we update it in a few months to fit a TM Warthog setup... once he saves up a bit more! thumbsup

Dud
Posted By: LOS91GT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/11/11 07:59 AM


Hello Everyone, Simpit virgin here,
























This is my first attempt at a simpit. It is not as beautiful as some of the works of art I have seen here and other sites but I am not very handy with power tools, however, I did managed to keep all my limbs. I am pretty new to this hobby and I ran into simpit building purely by accident while searching for something else (go figure), I thought it would be pretty cool to make one of these, then it went pretty much the same it has gone for almost everyone in this hobby. Anyway, the cockpit is not specific to any particular aircraft since I like using different sims. It does have some design elements from an A4, F4 and some F14 added for good measure, but the design is mainly based on the A4. No working gauges (yet! I did not want to overwhelm myself) but I have submitted my request form for additional funds to my stakeholder (aka wife). Well right now this thing is like my Cannon DSLR, lots of cool stuff in it and don't really know how to use it. I went crazy buying all these different sims and I barely grasp the concept of energy management. Thank you to everyone in the simpit building community that provided all the great info and inspiration that made this little project possible. Well, enough talk, please enjoy.
Posted By: Valisk_61

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/11/11 12:24 PM

Nice way to make a first post! Great cockpit - do you have any build pics?
Posted By: Reschke

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/11/11 03:59 PM

WOW WTG LOS91GT Way to go with the first post.
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/11/11 07:04 PM

Awesome!

Great work.
Posted By: LOS91GT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/11/11 11:02 PM

Thanks guys,

You are too kind. Valisk_61, sorry no pictures of build, the knucklehead that put it together (me) did not stop to think that someone might actually want to know how it is put together. I am in the process of making detailed diagrams and measurements to show how it is cut and put together if someone is interested in it. I just need to find time and sit down and complete the documents for anyone that wants it, no charge cheers

It is not a complex cockpit because it was meant to be generic, so once you have the shell you can make it into anything you want.
The design was heavyly influenced by the A4 Skyhawk cockpit, there is a Blue Angels sectioned A4 cockpit in display at my local air museum and the good part is that they allow all the visitors to get in it at their leisure. all knobs, switches and gauges are still in it so it provided a great reference. The cockpit is about 60 inches long (could be shortened if necessary) and 32 inches wide. I can't really remember the height so I'm not going to guess on that right now. The display is placed just in front of the knees roughly the same distance that the A4 windscreen is at. as you can see from the pictures this puts the display window closed to 1:1 scale. The display placement really makes it feel like I am really looking trough the windscreen of a fighter, add TrakIR and you really have to sit in this pit to experience what I am talking about. The display is mounted to a retracteble arm wall mount and can be pushed back to suit my viewing needs. When I first visited this site for inspiration I read somewhere on some link that I really needed to "pay special attention to the deatails" to make sure I was happy with my pit at the end. I never forgot this line and used as the core and foundation for the project. Alas, no one warned me that I should run and not look back, because now I feel this thing is not done and god only knows where I'll stop biggrin
Posted By: LOS91GT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/11/11 11:10 PM

Sorry guys,

I think I'm off on measurements (brain fart)will get home and actually look at my documents for accurate specs.

-Los
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/12/11 12:47 AM

If you're a virgin I call BS I think you've been around the block with a first build like that. My generic pit compared to yours make me look like I've almost made it to first base but was called out! Sorry but that's awesome stuff there. I love the Hiller Aviation Museum too (hope I guessed right) I mean they've got a Flying Tigers Airline 747 nose!





Don't worry I live in Stockton, I'm not stalking you or anything lol!
Posted By: LOS91GT

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/12/11 04:52 AM

LOL!!!

HitchHikingFlatlander, thanks for the comment and furthermore, that's really scary exitstageleft
No, just kidding! But, You are correct on the museum part. By the way, I live in Union City so the museum is just accross the Dumbarton bridge about 20-25 minutes away.
Actually this is my first attempt ever at a simpit. My wife took me to Hiller for my Birthday when she found out I had contracted some sort of disease from visiting this site and others like it and came to the conclusion that she would need to fight fire with fire. Believe it or not the pit is really simple and was built by using a hand held circular saw and hand held reciprocating saw from sears, two piece straight edge with small clamps bought at Home Depot, Hand power drill, open wrench and screw driver set. The Circular saw scared the heck out of me at first but got used to as I got more into the project. There is no fancy design with complex curves on it, it just flat surfaces with some angles cut into it. Don't get me wrong, the interior layout was the most challenging and it was alot of trial and error. Do you remember what it was like to sit inside that A4 cockpit? Didn't it feel like if that was a complete aircraft that it would almost seem like you were wearing it? I created the entire thing full scale out of cardboard (cardboard boxes courtesy of work) and masking tape before cutting any wood. I did this only because there were no plans for this build and I had to move panels around the interior until I got that same feeling I experienced when I sat in that A4 cockpit.
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/12/11 02:40 PM

Awesome pit LOS91GT! I love that you mocked it with cardboard first. I did the same thing and it really helped in my pit design as well!
Keep up the good work.
Dud
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/12/11 06:28 PM

Even still LOS91GT that's an impressive set up! You have a wonderful wife (like me) to support and put up with your hobby! Pretty soon Northern California is going to need a pit building club. My buddy in Galt has already built a KA-50 pit and is currently building for the A10C which I plan to do too.

Its a fun hobby whether building or just flying!
Posted By: Lobo_63

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/28/11 12:37 AM

Here is a pic of my new sim pit modded rocker chair.



A before and after photo with "artist" concept drawing.

More pics in this thread:
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3168109/TM_Warthog_Glider_Rocker_Sim_S.html#Post3168109
Posted By: Baur

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/30/11 04:12 PM




http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=367&sid=96f9b136eacc5f5d5310cdbe44d8d263 I live in Russia. And manufacture control device for the simulator Il2 Shturmovik. I do not speak English. Translate the text in the translator http://translate.google.ru/

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=28

http://avia-sim.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=34


Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/31/11 07:55 PM

Nicely done Baur!
Posted By: propman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/02/11 12:43 AM

Great job Baur. Very impressive. Thank you for sharing. burnout
Posted By: Baur

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/02/11 06:36 AM

Please! Very interesting to see your work. Visit us at our biggest forum http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/
That homemade stick control and engine management http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=68
That homemade homemade pedal http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=69
That home cockpit http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=72
Posted By: Baur

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/03/11 03:17 PM

Guys who can help! Looking for photos and diagrams of the real mechanism of pedals Bf109g ... . As for my drawings. Maybe there is a technical description for aircraft maintenance?
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/03/11 03:45 PM

Hi Baur,

Couldn't find drawings, but I did find some good pictures here:

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkaround/10639/10639.htm

Hope these help,

Andy
Posted By: Baur

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/03/11 04:03 PM

Thanks Andy! This is going to help. But the most interesting part for me is under the gun. This is a central part of the mechanism.
When moving the pedals, they get a bit are not parallel. I think German designers have thought through human anatomy for good governance.
Posted By: Sokol1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/03/11 09:46 PM

Bauer,

Nice work in your pit!

Seems that 109 pedal work as parallelogram, not different under cannon breech in this picture:

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkaround/410077/410077as-37.JPG



Look at pag. 24 of this Bf-109 F1 manual:

http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/archiv/...0Mai%201941.pdf

Sokol1
Posted By: Baur

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/05/11 03:47 PM

Sokol1, many thanks! This is what you need! Where you can take those instructions? You do not just have rescued the guys. I noticed it smile
Originally Posted By: Sokol1
Bauer,

Nice work in your pit!
BAUR smile
Posted By: Ahalin

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 02/07/11 10:34 AM

Ok, I have been flying sims for at least 10 years, having started on A-10 Attack! on a Mac, way back when. So it was about time I made myself a little more comfortable, and perhaps a better flyer, with some basic cockpit functionality. Attached is my very simple, very cheap, take off of a few designs floating around the web. Picture 1 is a side mount config, 2 a centre config and 3 is a more detailed view of the stand.

Note my "poor man's throttle": A second mouse with the scroll wheel mapped to throttle, which gives much finer control than the joystick throttle, and +/- trim mapped to the mouse buttons. I haven't seen this idea before so maybe it is a first! I hope it helps others who don't have the "whole shootin' match" of sim pits and flight controllers. You can also use the mouse to control head movement better than the old hat switch.

Still to come:

  • Purpose build stand for the poor man's throttle.
  • A big monitor or multiple monitors
  • Pedals
  • Pilot's chair (second hand car seat)







Enjoy!!
Posted By: Jas452

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 02/07/11 12:26 PM

Rebuild of my pit
Before:
After:
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 02/09/11 05:34 PM

Very cool Jas, I would like to hear/see more of your panels, especially the push/pull throttle/mixture controls. What kind of controller board did you use to interface?
Posted By: Jas452

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 02/12/11 01:46 AM

HitchHiking, Here are a few more pics:
This pit was made with parts from Desktop Aviator, Saitek rudder peddles,yoke,throttle quadrant,,radio panel,control panel and Thrustmaster Warthog modded with Metalnwood's joystick extension.
Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 02/12/11 01:25 PM

I like the warthog extension. I saw Metalnwoods post in the controller forum. Looks very good action there. Shame I haven't got a warthog and that Metalnwood only had a limited run on them. I could see them being very popular once the Warthog is a little more established
Posted By: Jas452

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 02/12/11 04:03 PM

Yes, The Warthog extension was a great buy Brigstock. Do you own a Cougar? Works with that also. HitchHiking, I used Desktop Aviators 2095 rotary encorder circuit board with 4 slide potentiometer for the push/pull throttle, mixture,prop pitch, cowl flaps controls. On the same board I wired 12 push button switches and 10 rotory encorder switches. That's the complete panel on the right. The left panel I wired 20 single throw single pole swithches to Desktop Aviators 2120 board and 10 single throw double pole switches to 2160 board. Next part of the project will be an overhead panel with 15 lighted push button switches.
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 02/15/11 06:25 PM

OiOi Brigstock!

just I got metalnwoods extention adaptors for my cougar, nice piece of work

when I retrofit to my bent extention i'll post pics

Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 02/15/11 09:04 PM

Too much free time and money in your house ....git :p
Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 03/08/11 01:40 AM

Quote:
Too much free time and money in your house ....git :p


I didn't know there was a such thing!

smile
Posted By: Ulti

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 03/12/11 04:50 PM

So here is my F16 Block 52 Pit (still building).

;

Old movie...




Greetings Martin (ULT)

Visit me also on viperpits.org
My pit build threat : http://www.viperpits.org/smf/index.php?topic=2092.0
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 03/12/11 05:14 PM

Nicely done Ulti! GREAT First Post thanks for the view!
Posted By: Boandlgramer

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 03/12/11 05:34 PM

That´s what I call "fantastic cockpit".
Great work, Ulti
Posted By: Organdonor

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/17/11 04:54 PM

Here is my reincarnated F/A 18E pit. Front intr panels shown is sub panel . Will have lexan panes that will have my backlit up front controller and 3 MFD's backlit as well untill some one writes a program for LCD's for FSX.

Posted By: SD-6

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 04/15/11 08:02 PM

Dude I luv your design, simple and effective. Please may I have the dimensions, tube lengths etc.
Posted By: Airdog67

Re: Please show off your pit: A simple sim pit and good idea for a poor man's throttle - 04/16/11 03:54 PM

My Pit
Posted By: AndyB

Comanche Pit update - 04/24/11 04:50 PM

Hi Guys,

A wee update to my pit. I decided I wanted a keyboard same as shown in EECH so I made a keyframe, fitted keyswitches and sprayed and lettered keytops. When I get another USBkeys board it will be fully working in the game.

I also remade the UFD as a two line display rather than the bulkier four line I had. It also comes with a nice blue backlight...

In the comanche, the keyboard and UFD are on a hinge that allows them to be moved down out of the way. I felt this would be a bit flimsy when I start banging away on the keyboard, so decided I needed a centre console.

As an added bonus the lower front panel will allow me somewhere to put the pedal adjust release handle (as in the apache).

Cheers,

Andy



Posted By: RAF74_Raptor

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/17/11 09:53 PM

My humble Pit Version 2.0




Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/17/11 10:34 PM

As they say in South Central "DAMMMMM BOOOOY!" Nice set up RAF!
Posted By: MegOhmSD

Stand Alone Flight Chair - 06/26/11 07:51 PM

I do not use a desk so I needed a solution to have everything at a chair 7 feet from the screen. The Warthog throttle is heavy so The (MOBO) pads for the HOTAS are beefed up with brackets at the hinges (pads are designed to fold back) and custom aluminum braces for the main pad. I removed the base plate from the Joystick and mounted it directly to the MOBO pad which is thick ABS plastic. Added additional brackets to the MOBO mounting at the arms for yaw Stability. It is now solid.
I plug the Stick and Throttle into the two USBs on the Merc Stealth Keyboard. So there is only one wire running to the chair (keyboard). The headphones, TrackIR5 and mouse are wireless. The Mouse pad swivels 270 degrees and was rescued from a recycle bin.

The MOBO comes with a keyboard tray. I rest it on the arms of the second chair, so it is just to my left and easy reach from the throttle. With clickable cockpits and the TM Warthog, you don't need the keyboard much. The XZIPIT chair was on sale so I got two for one. The power cord at the chair base powers the chair which has two speakers and a subwoofer. The chair receives sound wirelessly. Chair rocks and swivels and has no wheels. Disregard the dust haven't cleaned up post construction.

I did a little wire management...so no more hanging wires...Also added the Gel Arm pads









Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Stand Alone Flight Chair - 06/27/11 12:42 AM

Finally got around to adding a TIR:
Posted By: RAF74_Raptor

Re: Stand Alone Flight Chair - 07/06/11 06:21 PM

Ghost is that a Track IR 3? And how do you like flying with it.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Stand Alone Flight Chair - 07/08/11 01:05 PM

Yes, it's a TIR 3. As one that hadn't flown a lot with my old TIR2 even, it takes some getting used to, but, so far I like it.
Posted By: Wrecking Crew

Re: Stand Alone Flight Chair - 07/11/11 11:17 PM

Sweet chair MO

Found some arm rests at Target - these are in the automotive department as lumbar support cushions - I hot-glued them to poster board so I can slip them on and off easily.



Wrecking Crew

crew
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/07/11 11:41 PM

Here is the latest update to my pit. It's been awhile since I posted any progress... probably because it took me so darn long to get the panels made, switches installed, and the first half of the wiring done. Rather than hijack this thread, I'll just put a teaser in here and make a new posting on the main page. Let me know what you think... I'm never afriad to steal someone else's great ideas!



Thanks,
Dud
Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/07/11 11:43 PM

nnnnnnnnnnnniiiiiiiiiiiicccccccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/08/11 03:39 AM

Awesome Dudley!!!! That is one beast of a pit!!! After seeing that, I'm down-grading the description of mine from "simpit" to "custom desk" LOL!!

I done a little work over the weekend... I bought a Playseat office chair so I modified the pit to allow the use of it. This makes it very easy to sit down, roll up to it and start flying. Basically I got tired of climbing into the darn thing. Best addition (or subtraction...) I've done so far!!





And without the chair:

Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/08/11 02:37 PM

Thanks Walker. Yours is definately more than a desktop pit. The difference between yours and mine is that yours costs less, takes up less space, and is easier to maintain! WinkNGrin

I like how you have elevated the pedals higher than what I have mine. I played around with doing that to mine, but it just didn't work out. The idea is still in the back of my mind though. What are the two yellow pads on the front of it. They look like input pads of some sort, but I can't make them out?
Dud
Posted By: walker450

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/10/11 07:00 AM

The yellow and black things come with the X-65 HOTAS. The left one has 5 programable buttons and 4 buttons to select different force presets. The right panel is a dummy panel without buttons that I plan on modding in the future. I have an x-keys controller sitting in a box just waiting for me to start wiring up some inputs smile. Maybe I'll have time this winter...

The pedals are elevated up and also tilted at about 25-40 degrees. I don't think the tilting is necessary as much on non-CH pedals... Elevating the pit was all in an effort to allow me to "roll into" it with my chair, which works great. I entertained the "car door" idea but decided it would take too long, and plus I don't have another Playseat to dedicate to the pit only. (I'm not gonna hack up my Playseat office chair!! although it did cross my mind...)

Here is a picture of the frame only showing the pedals:

Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/10/11 02:18 PM

Nice job! Once you start, there always seems to be just one more thing to do. Smile2

Dud
Posted By: Goupil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/29/11 12:19 AM

hi all,

F16 cockpit (again...)













see you

Goupil - Pasdebol


Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/30/11 05:39 PM

Nice finish, Goupil. How often do you catch yourself gliding your hand over the surface outside the cockpit, when you're waiting for the PC to do something and your mind wanders? wink
Posted By: Chappy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/12/11 08:47 PM


The seat will eventually be skinned in aluminum

Got the stick extended but will be going with a one piece extension as soon as I find the tap and die set that will work

Got the outside panel outside drying after some paint so i'm hooking up some electronics in the mean time.

<---lights
Still working on it but it's coming along.
Posted By: kklix

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/29/11 12:02 AM

LOS91gt,
Ran across your PIt post and it is awesome. Would be interested in the drawings, dimesions and other stuff. Also were do I get printed graphic panedl for F14D Tomcat.
Thanx, Kory
Posted By: The Nephilim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/29/11 12:17 AM

Originally Posted By: kklix
LOS91gt,
Ran across your PIt post and it is awesome. Would be interested in the drawings, dimesions and other stuff. Also were do I get printed graphic panedl for F14D Tomcat.
Thanx, Kory



Would like to know what you used if the MFD's are in fact FULLY Functional Did you use a TFT Monitor if so which size One??


here are some updated pics of My "Virtual Pit"



By the_nephilim at 2011-09-17







By the_nephilim at 2011-09-17







By the_nephilim at 2011-09-17







By the_nephilim at 2011-09-17







By the_nephilim at 2011-09-17





I am in the Current Process of building WORKING MFD's with a 8" TFT and getting a Wroking RWR with a 5" TFT Monitor..

I had bought a 3.5" TFT but I can NOT use it unless I get a VGA Converter to get it working on a PC with DVI Outs.. I tried using a VGA to Composite Adapter but that did NOT work I need a Converter which I bought and waiting for it to arrive to get my RWR Working..

If it is NOT big enough I will buy the 5" TFT I found on ebay for 80bucks that comes with a VGA Controller and TFT Screen 5".. Gonna be sweet..

I am alsdo looking into AMD vid cards as they have support for Massive amounts of External Monitors but the 3D is what is Holding me back. I have Triplescreens and also use the nVidia 3D Vision glasses for S3D Effect which again in F4 BMS 4.32 it is so Realistic!!
Posted By: Geedee

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/02/11 08:40 PM

Hi guys

Thought it about time to give you an update on where I am with my '51 'pit. Have been plodding away since the first set of pics on page 41 and she's now at the stage where the main build is essentially complete and she actually looks like the 'Cadillac of The Skies'. This winter is the time when I will be detailing the interior and finishing off all those little jobs that you get in a project (you've heard of the 90 % rule ?...where the first 90 %of the project takes 90 % and the remaining 10% also takes 90% !!!).





I am aiming at starting on the various interfaces for the controls / instruments etc early in the new year so will be making a nuisance of my self on this site looking for answers and asking loadsa questions with my intention to have her fully operational by the end of 2012

This last pic was taken a few weeks ago when I took her to the Martlesham Heath Aviation Society's Open Day at their museum on the old camp. The tail number I am using on my pit is from a '51 that the Chief Test Pilot for the Aircraft and Armament Experimetal Esatablishment based at Martlesham Heath in 1936, would later fly on his last fatal flight in Jan 45



I'll let you know how I get on over the next few months and will be getting very busy after Christmas on the interfaces. And I promise not to leave the updates so far apart !
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/05/11 05:19 PM

Very nice Gary!

g.
Posted By: propman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/05/11 09:36 PM

Geedee, awesome work. I have been quietly following your progress. Great authentic pit. I will be following you as you interface the instruments.
Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/08/11 10:45 AM

WW2 Pit!! And a P-51 WOW
Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/08/11 11:02 AM

So you are intending to get the dials running? eek
Posted By: nirvi

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/21/11 08:33 AM

Finally finished!
http://i.imgur.com/yjsv8.jpg
Posted By: 335th_GRSwaty

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/27/11 10:36 PM

WIP




Posted By: Cors0

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/20/11 06:06 PM

my new seat
Posted By: Airdog67

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/12 03:09 AM

The latest layout of my pit
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/22/12 05:54 PM

That's awesome Airdog! Are you using Helios for your displays?
Dud
Posted By: Silence808

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/27/12 02:10 AM

Hi everyone... long time lurker, first time poster... here's a preview of my pit:


This is the eject handle I just added to my pit; while it won't be tapped to a keg, it will be functional as an ejection seat handle (via shoestring, radio shack leaf switch, and an A-Pac board)!
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/27/12 02:00 PM

Now that is my idea of an ejection handle! Shame you couldn't find a way to hide a keg in there somewhere. cheers Are there pics of the rest of your pit?
Dud
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/27/12 06:27 PM

Oh cmon you can make that operational!
Posted By: Donk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/27/12 06:29 PM

My not so much of a pit, soon to change!



Posted By: Silence808

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/30/12 05:00 AM

I'll post some more pics on a separate thread soon - mine is an ever-evolving ABC pit with liberal usage of Goodwill- and Tucson-boneyard- sourced odds and ends. Its been a lot of fun figuring out how to improvise aircraft controls and panels without having to spend congressionally-appointed sums of money!
Posted By: wheelsup_cavu

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/30/12 06:48 AM

Nice ejection handle. biggrin


Wheels
Posted By: Rusty_M

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/06/12 10:45 PM

Er....does this count?

At least it has a guard dog!
Posted By: Cali

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/07/12 07:15 AM

Not sure what's it's gonna do...it looks a lil scared...hehe. Yes that counts as a pit.
Posted By: Rusty_M

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/07/12 07:27 PM

Well she's still learning the controls. It's a little overwhelming at first.
Posted By: Falstar

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/08/12 04:54 AM

Wouldn't that make her a PitBull?
Posted By: jskibo

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/09/12 12:26 AM

Unless she lays on your lap while flying, then she's a wiener dog........
Posted By: Donk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/24/12 08:07 PM

Just managed to sort out my center stick mount and I've got me a nice chair,now I just need to sort my throttle table and source some velcro to keep them held down.
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/26/12 12:14 AM

Minor update to the Space/Atmospheric/land rig. Still no paint... Too busy flying it to tear down for a paint job.

New items:

Built a new dedicated PC a while back based on an Asus X58 Sabertooth board, Core i7 950 with a Noctua cooler, 60GB SSD, 1TB HDD for data, XFX HD5870 "Black" GPU, XFX 850w Silver certified PSU in a Cooler Master Storm Sniper case.

Upgraded to 40" Sony windshield.

Got a set of used SimPeds from SimHQ member Haphazard to compliment the FSSB Cougar

Made up a new UFC/MFD console tray to put the MFDs in a more useful position. Also remounted the seat at better angle and moved the bass transducers for better "seat of pants" feedback.

In the works is adding a couple of USB mini monitors to the MFDs to make them "live" and then mount them permanently to the pit frame.

Haven't gotten a pic of the driving controls installed as I've been flying too much, but here's a pic of the modular parts I constructed to swap over to drive mode when the need for some GT or Rally racing overtakes me.

As it was in the beginning, so shall it remain forever a WIP...





Posted By: Reschke

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/26/12 05:13 AM

That one looks great Red. What seat is that? I am guessing it is a racing seat of some description. I am torn between a racing seat and trying to build one of my own but I really can't decide at the moment.
Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/26/12 08:41 PM

Sweet pedal setup! eek thumbsup

You have some hydraulic action happening there? Can you post a couple closer shots from different angles?
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/27/12 05:24 PM

Originally Posted By: Reschke
That one looks great Red. What seat is that? I am guessing it is a racing seat of some description. I am torn between a racing seat and trying to build one of my own but I really can't decide at the moment.


Thanks.

The seat is a Corbeau "Forza" for a race car. I ordered the seat together along with the slider track for fore/aft adjustments and it's worked out great for me.

Here's where I got it: http://www.motorsportseats.com/corbeau/forza.html

Only thing I'd mention is that depending on how tall you are and your cockpit layout, the shoulder "wings" on some seats *might* get in the way slightly if you have high mounted side consoles or a keyboard mounted very far outboard. For me this is a non-issue but for a 6.5 footer, there might be interference when reaching very far outboard.
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/27/12 05:38 PM

Originally Posted By: JAMF
Sweet pedal setup! eek thumbsup

You have some hydraulic action happening there? Can you post a couple closer shots from different angles?


Thanks. Good eye! The brake and clutch do use hydraulics for feel, the throttle uses just spring tension. The slaves actuate high resolution pots that are wired into the connector box and link up via a short 5 pin DIN cable to a Beta Innovations Plasma Lite that lives under the hood (the enclosure the TV sits on) along with the steering parts and other electronics. I may at some point change the brake over to a force sensor actuated by the hydraulics, but it works so well as it is, that it would be mainly be a tinkering type project.

The wheel mounts up on a QD hub for a kart and the buttons connect to the Plasma Lite via a the coiled pigtail to a socket under the dash. The shifter unit mounts to the right side of the chassis and uses a DB9 serial cable to connect to the Plasma Lite.

I'll try and get a couple more pics of the pedals up in the next few days.
Posted By: IGluck

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/04/12 05:25 AM

Here is my first simpit, simple as it may be. Thanks to Roder Dodger aviation for the plans for the floor frame. I've been collecting sims for about 20 years (yes, I owned the original Falcon for the Mac and every version since then). Every microprose simulator, all the eagle dynamics stuff, il-2, mig alley, you name it. Only problem is that I've spent more time configuring and benchmarking as opposed to flying during that time period.

So, I've decided to make 2012 the year of the flight sim. Built the frame to hold my CH Products gear, bought a trackir, thrustmaster MFDs, and a monitor to display the MFDs behind them. Now, just need to spend some time learning how to fly and fight. Need to pick one era to start. Deciding between a-10, rise of flight, and mig alley for a first deep dive. Thanks to all here for the great info and inspiration!

Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/08/12 02:40 AM

Very nice! I suggest A10C for a starting point but naturally I'm biased (lol).
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/08/12 04:41 AM

Good work.

I'll second the DCS A-10C. Big fun.
Posted By: LuseKofte

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/08/12 10:28 AM



It is moved now, and the yoke is put in a console
Posted By: LuseKofte

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/12/12 11:27 AM



Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/12/12 06:52 PM

Sweet throttle! What twin engined aircraft served as donor? A Beechcraft? Or was it a military paradrop aircraft?
Posted By: LuseKofte

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/12/12 09:51 PM

A Cessna Bobcat 1941 Bomber crew trainer biggrin

They had P 47 and avenger throttles too, but I needed a twoengine throttle with 8 hotas
Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/12/12 10:10 PM

Lucky dog! thumbsup
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/13/12 05:51 PM

Sweet set Leone!
Posted By: LuseKofte

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/26/12 10:41 AM

I am currently in a prosess of making myself a KG 12 or 13 flightstick. http://www.simparts.de/epages/15465782.s...KG13A-0001-0001
I want to simulate an HS-129 , ME- 210/ 410 and BF 110 pit. Not the looks but the feel.
and I see a lot of tutorials for making a base for it here that is nice
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/27/12 02:37 AM

That's a very nice stick grip.

g.
Posted By: jangeisler

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/25/12 04:25 PM

At last I'm pretty much satisfied with my Akers Barnes build. So far here's what I've got:


The seat and the Freetrack headset




G940 and G27


Control Panel. I will add more buttons as needed. I use HIDmacros for FSX assignments.


Rudder, plane mode


Pedals, car mode. The pedals board slides back and forth, and is locks in place in each mode.
Posted By: defdude

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/26/12 09:16 PM



Still don't have any flight stick stuff yet, mostly just play FPS at the moment. Love my obutto biggrin
Posted By: defdude

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/31/12 02:40 AM

Before you say it, I did clean the air filters recently. lol
Posted By: L0stS0ul

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/31/12 05:16 PM

Here's mine, recently made it convertible from yoke to flight stick



Posted By: 68valu

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/12 02:58 AM

Very nice job <S>
Posted By: [VAAF]ruprecht

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/12 04:45 AM

Recently had a tidy and some new bits. Working on an AoA indexer at the moment, then will refit my gear/flap panel. Also need to move those side screens up to match the centre and optimise performance in DCS and FSX.



Posted By: vsempizdetz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/12 06:38 AM

That is an AWESOME pit! eek

However, I don't see how three monitors would bring a large difference to immersion and aircraft control with the availability of TrackIR.
Posted By: David Kennard

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/12 05:09 PM

I have plans to get a triple setup for my gaming as soon as possible smile

With that set-up vsempizdetz you can see that it gives you peripheral vision looking forward and the TrackIR would still work perfectly when you look to the sides to locate your targets smile
Posted By: AggressorBLUE

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/02/12 10:53 PM

Originally Posted By: [VAAF
ruprecht]Recently had a tidy and some new bits. Working on an AoA indexer at the moment, then will refit my gear/flap panel. Also need to move those side screens up to match the centre and optimise performance in DCS and FSX.








Nice cheers

Is that based off an Akers-Barnes with an Aces replica?
Posted By: [VAAF]ruprecht

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/03/12 01:06 AM

Thanks guys, I'm having a blast in it at the moment. Helios on the touchscreen is a whole new dimension of awesome.

Originally Posted By: vsempizdetz
I don't see how three monitors would bring a large difference to immersion and aircraft control with the availability of TrackIR.

Originally Posted By: David Kennard
With that set-up vsempizdetz you can see that it gives you peripheral vision looking forward and the TrackIR would still work perfectly when you look to the sides to locate your targets smile


David is quite right vsempizdetz. I've picked up missile trails, tracers, targets etc on the side screens that I would have missed without the peripheral vision. Also it allows me to make the TrackIR pan a bit less sensitive, as I can turn my head further and still be able to see the side screens.

Originally Posted By: AggressorBLUE
Is that based off an Akers-Barnes with an Aces replica?

Exactly right. It's SpeedOne ACESII design, with a (working) navy ejector handle of my own construction (basically garden hose and electrical tape). The Akers-Barnes design is modified (wider, longer, higher) to fit the ACES. It doesn't often come to pieces nowadays, but when it does the whole thing fits in the back of my Subaru for flight sim expos and so on.
Posted By: Goupil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/05/12 10:15 PM

Hello

remember my cockpit :
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and now :
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(next pictures : photo K-Lu)
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other...
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My F16 ockpit

TripleHead2Go Analogic and 3 projector Epson E 470 1024X768 (x3)

Goupil / Pasdebol
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/06/12 06:13 AM

That is AWESOME! notworthy Really nice job. What resolution do you have the projectors running at, and are they on an Eyefinity setup?
Posted By: Bluedeath

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/06/12 08:12 AM

look at the size of that thing!
Posted By: [VAAF]ruprecht

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/06/12 09:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Goupil

and now :


Oh my good gravy. Well done sir. Well done indeed.
Posted By: Henk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/07/12 08:14 AM

Watched your thread almost completely Groupil, this is a true work of art, not only as a simpit but also as craftmanship. Bravo! Downloaded some photo's as inspiration. Would love to see this thread as a PDF á la Gene Buckle's Series One Cockpit
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/12 05:15 AM

I'm back with the latest installment to the moneypit... I mean simpit.

I spent the last week working on another change to the Simpit... backlighting! I'm really happy with how it turned out. The lighting even matches my Warthog and MFDs!



If you are interested in how I made it all finally work, follow this link. Dudley Simpit Project

Not only does it look all green and sinister, but now I can find my beer easier when I'm flying at night! cheers

Dudley
Posted By: JAMF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/12 10:22 AM

Nice! The top pic turned out a bit more white than green, but the green glow on the pit contours look nice.
Posted By: smil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/12 04:09 PM

Looks great. Very helpful, thanks.

great pit!
Posted By: weisse13

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/11/12 07:20 AM

Very very nice Cockpit..... tolle Arbeit....great work... thx
Horrido weisse13
Posted By: Lupus

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/12/12 02:11 AM

The pit looks awesome Dudley, thanks for the ideas on how to back-light. I've been trying to figure out how to accomplish that.
Posted By: Deadman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/13/12 04:55 PM

This really looks great!!!
Posted By: eric37a

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/19/12 12:37 AM

Not up to the standards of some, but it works for the time being.




How it looks when not simming



Next up is to get the warthog mounted to my sim chair. Thinking keeping my U2nxt as the side stick, and center mounting the warthog. Gotta figure the logistics out.
Posted By: Cali

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/19/12 04:37 AM

Nice clean pit, I'll take that cougar from you.
Posted By: carloscasas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/27/12 06:21 PM

Hello, i'd like share with you the cockpit of one of our customers.

www.totalspanishsimulator.com

It's a car simulation, but it's possible modify it to flight simulator.



Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/27/12 07:43 PM

OMG, that is awesome! jawdrop
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/01/12 08:39 PM

evenin all, another bod from the north east of England, just found this forum when browsing for pics of a/c cockpits. Am on a few
other sim/cockpit forums Mr Geedee ;-).....
This is my effort at a simpit....if I can load a few pics up.. it's based on an Avro lancaster (had a relative that flew n died in one in ww2). I've used a fair few original ww2 parts (seat is from a HP Victor refueler) for scene setting/adding to the feel of being in a bomber, speakers hiden, butt kicker....unfortunately its all been taken apart in prep for selling house :-(


















Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/01/12 09:20 PM

Now that's pretty damn neat!

g.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/01/12 09:38 PM

Nice! FSX flying, I presume?
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/01/12 09:42 PM

tar muchly, just a shame she's all boxed up now :-(
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/01/12 09:48 PM

FS2004 or fsx depending on which a/c I want to use as fsx didn't have manchesters or whitleys (I'm a RAF Bomber command lover see ;-) )
Posted By: smil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/05/12 06:11 PM

Bravo! Coolest and most original cockpit idea, ever! smile
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/07/12 12:14 PM

thanks.... I may be able to have her up n running by xmas again....HUSSAR!
Posted By: carloscasas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/02/12 10:23 AM

My new rig ( http://www.totalspanishsimulator.com/wp/en/tienda/ )

I did it!!!!

I show you my new Rig. Cockpit Genesis.

“The ultimate cockpit of Aluminum profile. You can configure it like you want and with an impressive look.”


-------

More Photos

http://www.totalspanishsimulator.com/wp/en/media/fotos-de-nuestros-clientes/







Posted By: hotwire

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/10/12 02:56 PM








still a work in progress see my post for more pics

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3696191/Re_Hotwires_pit.html#Post3696191
Posted By: AMZ1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/21/12 06:11 PM

I built this a few years ago, and recently updated it.
Flying mostly AcesHigh online, I wanted this to not only be a functional cockpit, but a nice piece of furniture for my study/library.
Now , my kids are old enough to enjoy it too!













Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/22/12 08:25 AM

^That's really sharp looking AMZ1!
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/23/12 12:45 PM

Good looking pit and solution for your Logitech speakers.
Derek
Posted By: smil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/13/13 11:37 PM

What great workmanship! How many times have you fallen asleep in that chair? smile
Posted By: smil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/13/13 11:48 PM

I hope it is OK to have a link to my album at another site. I'll change it once I take some new pics to post here.

I've been working on a KA-50 cockpit for years now. It has just kept growing until it I realised I would have every switch (and then some) working. I am almost finished at version 1.0, a full working prototype stage, which is a mix of high-fidelity and cheesy construction. I have much more work to do, but every single bug on my side has been squashed at this point in time.



Photo Album
Posted By: SAPPER

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/14/13 10:25 AM

Great setup Smil! I had seen your pit before, over at ed forums I think, but it's great to see it here too.
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/15/13 04:10 AM

That looks amazing Smil! I didn't notice any, but do you have any additional switches anywhere for other sims?
Keep at it!
Posted By: smil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/16/13 03:26 AM

Thanks guys. No, all I fly is BS. No desire for anything else. I have plans to make another cockpit for ROF based loosely on a Sopwith Dolphin. It will carry me into WW2 next year when the new Stalingrad sim comes out.
Posted By: carloscasas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/16/13 10:59 AM

Hera a few photos of my rig updated ( Cockpit Genesis).

I want to buy a new graphic card and 3 screens Ips 27", but for now, with the rig close, distance between my eyes to the screen of 70 cm and correct FOV, the immersion is great. (And despite having only one TV 32").

More photos

http://www.totalspanishsimulator.com/wp/en/blog/nuevas-fotos-del-cockpit-actualizado-de-carlos-c/









Posted By: smil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/18/13 08:23 PM

That hood looks great! I need to come up with a very large one one of these days.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/19/13 08:45 PM

Did some re-arrangin' and cleanin' things up...

Posted By: komemiute

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/19/13 08:47 PM

How's the cost for those panels below the Monitor?
How would you judge their quality?

biggrin Thanks!
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/19/13 09:02 PM

Finished and submitted a review for SimHQ a couple weeks ago. wink Hopefully, it'll get published, soon. The only downside of them is that they aren't programmable, yet. I'll be pestering Saitek to make them programmable wink The cost, well, MUCH less than the GoFlight panels, that's for sure!
Posted By: komemiute

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/19/13 09:40 PM

Awesome thank you!

I'll be waiting the review! wink

PS: If they are not programmable, that means they only work with a limited amount of titles?
Compatibility issues?
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/19/13 10:32 PM

They work GREAT in MSFS X! Plug And Play!
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/13 02:03 PM

I had looked at getting some myself, but when I found out they weren't programmable, I decided against them. I contacted Saitek and asked them about programmability options in the future and the rep who emailed me back said that it was a possibility, but wasn't something he knew for sure they were working on. It's too bad... I really wanted to use the radio modules. I don't understand why they would limit themselves to a single application like that. Sure, if you go into 'programmable mode' you will loose the plug and play slickness and all, but I think that flexibility in the product would increase sales enough to justify the investment in adding programmability.

Let's just hope they come around to seeing that way too! thumbsup
Posted By: komemiute

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/13 02:20 PM

So hoping to use'em on DCS A10 is a dream? Actually a nightmare?
Posted By: komemiute

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/13 05:16 PM

I'm SOOOO about to buy Saitek Pro Flight Throttle Quadrant...

Worth it?
Posted By: SAPPER

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/21/13 01:43 AM

The Radio would and Instrument panels would probably be hard to interface with other sims, but for those panels that are just switches and such, don't they work with DX inputs? that would make them usable in any sim... or they output the FSX keypresses? That would be the worst design decision since the Me-163.....
Posted By: CyBerkut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/21/13 06:08 PM

I don't have any of those Pro Flight panels, but as I recalled (confirmed here as well as other places) they originally shipped with a Software Developers Kit. Ghost, check the CD(s) that came with your panels... if they no longer include an SDK, you still may be able to get Saitek to share it with you.
Posted By: Cors0

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/01/13 08:51 PM

Hi all this is my playseat


Posted By: CyBerkut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/03/13 04:04 AM

Cors0, that is clearly the cat's playseat. How many hours/week are you permitted to use it? smile

Good looking setup! Great looking cat.
Posted By: L0stS0ul

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/06/13 03:20 AM

Stock saitek drivers are horrible. The best thing anyone can do is download these drivers

http://fstools.weebly.com

They are awesome and because they use FSUIPC so they work with any plane where as the stock drivers only work well the with planes that are setup like the stock planes.

With the spad drivers they take on a whole new life and respond so much better. Plus you can program it to some extent I believe. I've not had to so can't say how advanced they are for that.

There are drivers for xplane but I don't own that sim so can't say how well it works. Again they are third party so not saitek supplied

I loved my saitek controllers so much I designed my pit around them
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3598848/The_wife_finally_let_me_build
Posted By: carloscasas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/10/13 11:27 PM

We show you some photos of one of the best rigs with our Cockpit Genesis.

Our customer, from Austria, has installed =

"Ultraforce GS-4", 3 screens 27", ipad, 2 shifters, fanatec clubsport, pedals CSP, button box DSD y Mini Display.





Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/11/13 02:31 PM

SWEET!
Any idea what is in the boxes on the back of the seat?
Posted By: AggressorBLUE

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/13/13 06:16 PM

Might be his PC? I can't see a Desktop box anywhere in those pics.
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/13/13 08:04 PM

I think the PC is mounted on the other side of the 3 screen set-up. The website has higher res images and after zooming in on two of the images showing the back side of the seat....I'm stumped. Perhaps they are some type of tactile tranducers? Between the 4 metal boxes is a fifth with what appears to be a cooling fan. If they are transducers, this may be the amp for the units.

Great looking rig and I must say I would love to have one like it.
Derek
Posted By: smil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/16/13 01:52 PM

PC is right behind the monitors.

You need some very long and expensive cables to get it out front when running a big three monitor setup.
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/20/13 11:46 AM

my temporary lanc pit, rooms not big enough for how I had it before :-(

Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/22/13 11:19 AM

The Berlin express....well Dusseldorf anyways...

Posted By: LuseKofte

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/10/13 10:52 PM

Posted By: Wholehawg

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/19/13 05:01 PM




Posted By: kutya

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/17/13 03:29 PM

I'm a passionate gamer for more than 20 years and my father knows his way in metalworking. We had some free time:






The keyboard+mouse+joystick, monitor and steering wheel holders are telescopic ("pullable") and you can adjust the angle too. My father did all the handiwork, I was just the designer smile It's not really a cockpit, but more a flying/racing/casual gaming rig. Since I don't really care about visually simulating a cockpit, focus was on functionality.
Posted By: Wild_Turkey

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/12/13 05:55 PM

BEFORE(Yeah it's a mess but it is a counter top...lol)





AFTER(much better)




Build is in Sig.
Next build will be a ASUS ROG VI series, a haswell I7 4770k and either a GTX Titan or 1-2 GTX780's.
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/12/13 06:31 PM

what's the monitor on the wall? looks nice n light!
Posted By: Wild_Turkey

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/12/13 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By: 50sqnwopag
what's the monitor on the wall? looks nice n light!


Samsung 46" 7100 series LED TV. My coffee mug weighs more...
Posted By: ArgonV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/13/13 04:40 PM

My refreshed setup. Looking at getting a Buttkicker Gamer sometime in the next few months...



Posted By: Magnum

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/13/13 05:03 PM

ahh, was never able to participate in this thread before... don't race or do flight sims enough for dedicated pits... so I call this the "Tactical Shooter Pit", lol...

Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/03/13 04:25 AM

Here's a quick update to my pit. I revised the pedal mountings to make it easier to switch from airplane mode to car mode by just flipping the unused pedal to the left or right. There are some other updates as well, but rather than a long post, I'll link to the whole update here .







Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/06/13 06:35 PM

Dudley, I saw this post a few days ago and this is the third time I've come back to it and visited your site. The build log and details of construction (evolution?) on your site are as educational as they are innovative. I think that your pit is one of the two best homemade pits I have seen in my several years of this hobby. The other is the Spitfire pit by Darryl (name?).
Excellent work and thanks for taking the time to share details of your work with the community.
beercheers

Derek
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/13 05:34 PM

Wow... thanks much for that! I think there are a lot of others around that are much better than mine, and to be honest, I stole most of my ideas from them. People like GrizzlyT, Reschke, Flatlander, and the like all provided insight or inspiration for a lot of what you see in my pit.

The sad part is now that I have it to this stage, I know what I would change if/when I ever do another one. But I think that is going to have to wait for retirement! tuner

Thanks again,
Dud
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/25/13 08:15 PM

Looks great!

g.
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/25/13 09:10 PM

Thank you Gene
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/25/13 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Gene Buckle
Looks great awesome!

g.


wink

+1
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/25/13 10:58 PM

Nice! Plus, curious as to why an A-model Viper?
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/26/13 07:23 AM

A-model because I have the real parts smile2 in the near future I will put more and more C-model components in (or just in front)
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/26/13 07:03 PM

He lives in that part of the world where you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a pile of A model F-16 parts. smile

MLU, FTW. biggrin

g.
Posted By: BigC208

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/01/13 04:37 PM

Ziet er goed uit Ralph. Wondering where you got those real parts. I used to live in Holland and contrary to what Gene says, many dead cats later still no F16 parts. Your pit begs for a wrap around projector setup. Where about in SW Netherlands. I visit family in Zeeland every fall. Would love to take that box for a spin. winkngrin
Posted By: Deadman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/08/13 04:27 PM

HI Guys I have been collecting real a-10 parts for quite some time and just picked up this old trainer pit
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/08/13 04:54 PM

SCOOOOOORE!

Congrats Deadman!

g.
Posted By: Red_5

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/08/13 05:38 PM

That's a truckload of awesome!

Nice score.
Posted By: Deadman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/09/13 03:02 AM

Thanks I you can follow the post over at VP or Ed forms I will post here now and then but posting on two place is hard enough some times. Gene check out the actuators for the stick and rudder pedals it may be interesting to you
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/09/13 05:27 AM

Drooooool! Nice score man, I've been following your thread at ED for a while, you have quite the collection now.
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/09/13 09:52 AM

Wowwowww, you are going to be so attached to that pit, good times are coming dude, enjoy it to the fullest tomcat

keep us updated
Posted By: Haukka81

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/10/13 07:01 PM

Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/10/13 11:44 PM

Deadman, link?

g.
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/11/13 04:48 PM

Deadman... where oh where did you find that? I'm green with envy... jawdrop
Posted By: Deadman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/11/13 11:35 PM

gene start her post 447
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=57846&page=15

DudleyAz are you building an A-10 as well?
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/12/13 05:13 PM

Thanks Deadman.

g.
Posted By: Deadman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/15/13 06:54 AM

Any time I just wish I lived close so you could really see the beast
Posted By: Freedan

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/04/13 02:45 AM

Hey all,
I wanted to begin by saying that I've been following the pit builds in this thread for some time now, and I must say that everyone's work is incredibly inspiring! I started my pit build at the beginning of 2013 and I have a few shots that I think are ready for public viewing biggrin

My all time favorite gaming inspirations have been the Wing Commander and Mechwarrior series (and more recently I've had my eye on Mechwarrior Online and Star Citizen). Below are a few of my more recent pics, and the full build history in pictures can be seen on my Instagram account (linked in sig).





Thanks!
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/05/13 06:54 AM

Very cool Freedan, its coming along nicely. Do you live in Northern or Southern California? I live near Stockton myself........

I always love seeing well documented builds and its one of the reasons I've taken a lot of pictures of my various simpit configurations over the years. One of these days I'm going to take all my pictures/thread and put them together so I can see the evolution to my current setup.
Posted By: Freedan

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/06/13 01:39 AM

Thanks Flatlander! Myself, I live in the Central Valley.

I would love to see more pics of your work; all it takes is one unique build to catch someone's eye and get them hooked on the idea of building a simpit.

Now that my build is advancing I'll post a more detailed build log, especially when I get into controls.

Thanks for commenting!
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/06/13 01:41 PM

nice..
the things we do with wood...
wink
Posted By: BigC208

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/17/13 03:07 AM

Put together for peaceful flying around or put down the hurt on some tanks.



Posted By: AggressorBLUE

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/17/13 08:47 PM

Nice Rig! You know it's awesome when you need a fish eye lens to capture the whole thing biggrin


PS: Nice pedals wink
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/18/13 04:10 AM

Originally Posted By: BigC208
Put together for peaceful flying around or put down the hurt on some tanks.





what is your frame rate like, and what kinda of cpu and graphics are u pushing?

.. looks like an amazing setup
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/18/13 04:14 AM

i will post photos up also...



home built cyclic, collective, and torque pedal. also supplementary g27 wheel and hotas warthog mount
still work in progress.
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/18/13 06:47 PM

This is my 3rd or 4th rig, I think. Earlier builds are in this thread somewhere

pilot driving

Still WIP, wiring needs to be locked down and tidied up, want to make it as easy as possible to switch between flight and driving. 4:3 monitor, Warthog stick and rudder pedals all on quick disconnect fittings, clamp in G25 wheel and good to go driving. Still need to mount the Tach properly.

More pics when its "done"

Posted By: BigC208

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/19/13 03:17 AM

@ Hannibal. Prepar3d runs at about 30fps and DCS A10 around 20 fps with all settings turned to medium. For now I'm running without the two outer monitors. Getting around 40fps that way. Next year when the GTX880 comes out I'll upgrade and hopefully be able to play at 67860x1680 at around 40 fps. Also contemplating on getting two more HP ZR30w's. That way I can go SLI. The hodgepodge of different monitors prevent me from using my two GTX 680's in SLI right now.

Edit: I succeeded in getting my landscape 30 inch and 2x22 inch monitors in portrait to run in SLI today. 4460x1680 is running at 65-70fps now. With everything at high, sliders maxed out and TSAA enabled and MSAA at 8 I'm getting 45-50fps. Not scaling badly at all.
Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/19/13 10:58 AM

Originally Posted By: skunk160
This is my 3rd or 4th rig, I think. Earlier builds are in this thread somewhere

pilot driving

Still WIP, wiring needs to be locked down and tidied up, want to make it as easy as possible to switch between flight and driving. 4:3 monitor, Warthog stick and rudder pedals all on quick disconnect fittings, clamp in G25 wheel and good to go driving. Still need to mount the Tach properly.

More pics when its "done"





Show off
neaner
Posted By: Lobo_63

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/19/13 01:50 PM

Hannibal. Nice stick and pedal mod! thumbsup
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/20/13 06:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Lobo_63
Hannibal. Nice stick and pedal mod! thumbsup


thanks! i hope to paint it soon! biggrin
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/20/13 06:15 AM

Originally Posted By: BigC208
@ Hannibal. Prepar3d runs at about 30fps and DCS A10 around 20 fps with all settings turned to medium. For now I'm running without the two outer monitors. Getting around 40fps that way. Next year when the GTX880 comes out I'll upgrade and hopefully be able to play at 67860x1680 at around 40 fps. Also contemplating on getting two more HP ZR30w's. That way I can go SLI. The hodgepodge of different monitors prevent me from using my two GTX 680's in SLI right now.

Edit: I succeeded in getting my landscape 30 inch and 2x22 inch monitors in portrait to run in SLI today. 4460x1680 is running at 65-70fps now. With everything at high, sliders maxed out and TSAA enabled and MSAA at 8 I'm getting 45-50fps. Not scaling badly at all.


wow..
20fps on A10? im getting the about the same on 2x GTX580. triple monitor is terrible in performance, i dont know how other people can deal with it.
Posted By: BigC208

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/21/13 04:30 AM


wow..
20fps on A10? im getting the about the same on 2x GTX580. triple monitor is terrible in performance, i dont know how other people can deal with it. [/quote]

I'm back to the three monitors running everything maxed out at 60-70fps. Once the 800 series Nvida cards are out next year I'll have another look at going extra wide. I like my eye candy but it can't be a slide show if you want to be effective.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/21/13 09:33 PM

i went triple monitor, and the experience wasnt that good for me, especially because i dont use trackIR.

i have trackIR4, and i can not get used to it.

i build my pits in preparation for oculus rift.

but in the last time i was on DCS, i play with dual monitors situated top and bottom with a resolution of 1920x2160 (fps is good with most options on high) but this was a year ago
Posted By: BigC208

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/23/13 03:48 PM

The Rift, the next frontier. We're all going to have to learn Braille with our keyboards and Thrustmaster MFD's. I sometimes got a bit queezy with the 5 monitor setup. I think it's because the framerates were not keeping up with my head movements. With DCS in super wide mode I now use the 3 Camera Lua and no Track IR. If I look left I can see the left wing and partial left tail fin. It's almost 300 degrees of visibility. Looks strange on screenshots or from a distance but very natural when you sit in the middle of the monitors.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/28/13 06:02 PM

update!!! smile






i just have to mod the G27 pedals, mount the combat pedals on a plwood, and paint the rest of the modules
Posted By: CyBerkut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/28/13 06:10 PM

That is looking gooood, Hannibal! thumbsup

What does the box on the left side of the cyclic shaft do for you? I see what looks like LEDS on there.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/28/13 06:21 PM

thank you mr cyberkut. smile
the box doesnt do anything but holds led's as u mentioned.
because i chopped up a CH products Fighterstick, i wanted to keep the led's.
also left some wires in should i add pots later on..

CH PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/28/13 11:34 PM

Brigstock you know when I'm in the air you'll shoot my a$$ down 50cal

....well try cheers
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/31/13 02:42 PM

Hannibal,
That is great looking! You do first class work.

Can you show some pics of and/or talk about your work on the base of the collective? I'm curious how you are able to keep the collective in any position (springs, dampers, compression, whatever). I am still fiddling with mine using a counterbalance and dampers... it works, but I'm not sure it feels the way I want it to. banghead

Thanks,
Dud
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/01/14 01:12 AM

i approve the use of counter balance, but i dissaprove the use of hydraulic dampeners
i tried to use carr-mcmaster dampeners in a design i had 5 years ago, but it would be server to use on the wrists.
always think egronomics.

my current design works with a counter balance spring and friction through a collar clamp.
im away from home at the moment, but my design was based of this thread..
http://www.hovercontrol.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=43;t=22128

he uses an aluminum clamp and a derlin rod,
my collective uses derlin clamps and an aluminum rod (1" diameter to be exact- the bigger the better for increased friction area)
the answer i got from this thread was derlin collar clamps..
enco.com is a good place to get them
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/03/14 02:29 AM

happy new years..
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/05/14 06:20 AM

today i was playing with DCS UH-1H helcopter and flew with the guys on the simhq teampseak server.

after 5 months of work, i am satisfied with the functionality of my helicopter controls after some tweaking...
at first it was not that great to use..UNTIL

a) i moved my seat forward ( the wrist rests on the the CH controller grips would not be egronomically comfortable to hold when my seat was back, i feel like using a clothes iron to melt away half the wrist rests)
b) and making no adjustments to the axis curves (at first i adjusted the curve cause i thought my stick was sensitive)

i kind of want to get rid of the wrist rests on the grips.. but maybe in the future..
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/08/14 12:41 AM

modding my G27 pedals for wider distance
Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/09/14 11:43 AM

Originally Posted By: hannibal
(b) and making no adjustments to the axis curves (at first i adjusted the curve cause i thought my stick was sensitive


I've been using extended shaft sticks for the last couple of years. Same as you, one of the first things I noticed was that I didn't need joystick curves anymore.
I have all my sims set at linear with no curves and no dead zones.
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/10/14 01:44 PM

Thanks for the info and pics hannibal... I feel the workshop calling my name! matrix
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/10/14 04:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Brigstock
Originally Posted By: hannibal
(b) and making no adjustments to the axis curves (at first i adjusted the curve cause i thought my stick was sensitive


I've been using extended shaft sticks for the last couple of years. Same as you, one of the first things I noticed was that I didn't need joystick curves anymore.
I have all my sims set at linear with no curves and no dead zones.


yep. agreed! i just wish the huey would respond quicker.... when i bring the joystick out, it is 1:1 for the most part. but when i quickly place the physical controller back to center, the view controls on DCS UH-1H seem to drift back to center...

something u know that i dont?
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/12/14 10:21 AM

Nice work Hannibal! And I was just thinking...... (Hannibal): "Some people work hard for one simpit but I get them ALL THE TIME"!!!! thumbsup

Are my eyes off or are there really two pits there almost identical? copter
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/15/14 08:29 PM

yep. two identical pits. as mentioned before i want to get 2 oculus rifts and share some kind of flying experience with a friend...

if DCS makes it possible on the huey or cobra, my next project will be a doorgun or copilot gunner reflex sight controller..
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/15/14 10:03 PM

quick mockup and lamp test of the MFD's

Think I'm going to go with the Vertical orientation and move the Cougar MFD to the lower edge of the screen so the one inch of screen real estate is at the top for warning lamps etc.

Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/19/14 06:30 PM

same seat, different controller!


Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/19/14 08:19 PM

Interesting Warthog mount. What's that 45 degree bar coming out from both seats?

Also, do you have a tray you want to use for a mouse/trackball mount on the right side?
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/19/14 09:37 PM

Originally Posted By: RogueSqdn
Interesting Warthog mount. What's that 45 degree bar coming out from both seats?

Also, do you have a tray you want to use for a mouse/trackball mount on the right side?


yes. the bar is just a base to accomodate the the G27 steering wheel and warthog stick.

No i do not have a tray for the right side...

when i put the future oculus rift on, im not going to be able to see no mouse or trackball...
wink
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/14 03:46 AM

so I'm 99% of the way there, I got the MFD USB screens for DCS A10, but they work superbly well for IL2 CoD, going to try it without the VC

Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/14 03:48 AM



copter
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/14 03:17 PM

@skunk...
awesome setup...

i like that G25/G27 pedal modification you have.
if i had more time, i would have done the same.

btw, do you work with softTH to get the monitors to work the way you have it setup?
i might have to look for you for softTH questions...
wink
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/20/14 05:21 PM

yours too Hannibal clapping

No go on the SofTH, I use TH2go for the 3 top screens, 2nd output for center screen and two sides are usb

in that shot im running 3 instances of IL2 Clod Simpits, one for each lower screen, I edited the cockpit.ini files to just show what I wanted on each screen
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/22/14 12:33 AM

hmmm. interesting. i thought TH2go was dead.... i was thinkin of ebaying mine. i have the DVI edition?
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/22/14 05:12 PM

why dead? would there be a benefit to go SoftTH?

I have the Digital/VGA TH2G using VGA to HDMI cables, running 5720 x 1080 across the top 3 and 1280 x1024 on the old (and Free!) 4:3 Dell

dropping the res to 4240 x 1050 for better FPS
Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/24/14 03:56 AM

I've just gotten my new front console attached to the Obutto and it's up and running. There's a 24" monitor behind it. Still have lots of work to do in arranging gauges on the available screen space. The ICP is an old Aimsworth one.

For the space on the right side with no panel, I haven't decided whether to put any switches there yet, since that space is gauges in the F-16, which I won't be doing unless it's simply decals.

I will likely be building a combination landing gear / CMDS panel on the bottom left side sometime soon.

I've added the RealSimulator FSSB R3 and TUSBA.





Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/24/14 07:36 PM

Nice!!
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/25/14 04:03 PM

Great work!
Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/25/14 08:43 PM

Thanks. It took a few weeks of working on it after coming home from work. Most of it is 1/4" MDF, except the sides of the switch panels and the CPD glareshields, which are 1/2" plywood (I had to run screws into the sides of those).

The grey parts were spray painted with grey primer, then taped over. I then sprayed flat black in the corners and such, and used a roller and regular flat black paint from the can. The MISC panel then had labels from my labelmaker applied and a clearcoat sprayed on.
Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/26/14 03:12 PM

Rogue, what kind of labelmaker tape did you used? Transparent?
Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/26/14 03:43 PM

Black tape with white print. It's a Brother PT 2430 I think. Hooks up via USB. Lets you use any font.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/31/14 08:59 PM

softTH is awesome!!!

my plane setup... A-10A optimized...
Posted By: Alejandro

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/02/14 02:17 AM

Hi all this my first pit. 4 joysticks (1xF-23 Genius + 3xgeneric gamepad PS style)

On the stick:
-TMS
-DMS
-CMS
-Pinky
-1º and 2º Trigger detent
-Pickle
-NWS
-Brakes

On the throttle (1x Generic game pad)
-Hat COMMS (UHF,VHF,IFF IN,IFF OUT)
-Air brake (OPEN,HOLD,CLOSE)
-Idle detent
-DGF,CANCEL,MRM
-Uncage
-Microstick (RADAR CURSOR, CURSOR ENABLE)
-RADAR ALT
-ALT GAIN

On the ruuder
-Rz axis
-TOE Brakes still in progess

Mini panel control (1x Generic game pad + SWmapper)
-1xSwitch ON OFF ON (Master ARM,SAFE,SIM)
-Pots not working yet
-CAT I,III
-2xSwitch ON OFF ON AUTOPILOT settings
-Laser Arm
-Lights
-MASTER CAUTION
-GEAR UP,DOWN
-ECM ON,OFF
-EMER JETTINSON
-PARKING BRAKE

More panels still WIP


Thanks to all who share pics, tutorials, and other tips, without this people this can take more time to made it real





Regards

Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/02/14 11:51 AM

Wow! Nice first post too, I see you're a lurker!

Would love some pics of that throttle assembly as well, seems like you built yourself a proper Viper throttle there!
Posted By: Alejandro

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/02/14 09:09 PM

Thx Ice!!!

Well, the throttle is very easy to build.
Just need:
-an old stick grip (I use the grip of a old Genius F-23)
-a box of a PC speaker (or a real box in metal is better)
-a generic gamepad PS style (dual shock)
-3 buttons simple
-a HAT swtich (extracted from a old joystick)
-2 potentiometers of 10KOM
-1 ON OFF ON miniswitch
-2 push and release miniswitch

First to all, the main potentiometer (SLIDER axis for the throttle) work by the F-23 genius joystick.
The X,Y,throttle and rudder axis are from the Genius F-23

By my own experience, try to start with good tools, for example: a good tin solder, resin, etc. The gamepad´s eletronic board is very fragile, so take so much care and be patience


well some pics: (looks very dark but is because I paint everything with a matt black color)












CONECTION BETWEN THROTTLE POTENTIOMETER AND SLIDER AXIS


ANALOGIC ACTIVATION BUTTON
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/03/14 10:28 AM

Aw man! You are living my dream!! I used to want to be able to take a commercial joystick and be able to mod it to my preference, this was back in MechWarrior 2 days, late 90s.

What you did there is awesome! How did you add more buttons/rotaries to the stick/throttle though? I presume the unit did not support as many buttons/axis before you modded it?

I must say that throttle looks so "mad max" it's sick!! Great work!! thumbsup
Posted By: Alejandro

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/03/14 05:14 PM

Thanks Ice!!!
The gamepad came with 12 buttons and 4 pots, same as the F-16 throttle.
Hey, you can do an A-10C worthog thorttle using the same metod. Just look how many things you need, remember, the PC takes the "generic gamepad joysticks" in an acumulative way and not in a replacement way like others, Genius F-23 per example
Posted By: Cold_Gambler

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/04/14 03:05 PM

Very nice, Alejandro! Welcome to the forum.

I really like the throttle you put together.
Posted By: Alejandro

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/04/14 09:47 PM

Thanks Cold!!

Hope build some stuff later but I´ll be around here

regards
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/08/14 05:20 AM

my reworked collective and cyclic


Posted By: flyguy262

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/15/14 02:38 PM


Wow! Especially love the reworked pedals. Any more info on your pedal design out there?

-flyguy262
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/17/14 04:06 PM

Originally Posted By: flyguy262

Wow! Especially love the reworked pedals. Any more info on your pedal design out there?

-flyguy262


simple design from photo.
key parts:
extension springs from home depot.
skateboard bearings from ebay
tie rod ends from MSC direct/ebay..

i wish i kept the two tone cyclic, i just painted it... -_-
Posted By: BigC208

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/03/14 06:51 PM

Update on the sim. This is the latest setup. Found a used PFC BATD on EBay. Running X Plane 10 with Simavio G1000 software. Simavio software runs on two 24 inch touchscreens and one 23 inc regular monitor. Driven by an Intel 3570k@4.2 ghz and an old GTX 570. X Plane 10 on a i2500k @4.3ghz and two GTX680 2gb in SLI pushing three hp zr30w 's in surround. I get between 40-60 fps, depending on sceney and weather.

If I want to play DCS A10 I swap out office chairs that are equipped with a Warthog Hotas. I need to migrate Helios or some other A10 cockpit software to the touchscreens. Have not really taken the time to figure out DCS on multiple computers.
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/23/14 01:39 AM



my ch and hog sticks..
Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/23/14 01:55 AM

My latest 2DoF racing platform, I decided to put my 6DoF Stewart platform on hold while I rebuilt this to add traction loss (sideways motion).

Posted By: Sabre

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/29/14 04:07 PM

Originally Posted By: PropNut
My latest 2DoF racing platform, I decided to put my 6DoF Stewart platform on hold while I rebuilt this to add traction loss (sideways motion).



Very cool Propnut! Glad you are still around.
Posted By: PropNut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/29/14 04:09 PM

Thanks Sabre, I have been in one incarnation or another wink
Posted By: ArgonV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/01/14 04:48 AM

Here's my latest setup:



I need something a little more well-rounded as I still do productivity work as well as racing sims from the same seat.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/01/14 10:01 AM

Nice! What screens are those?
Posted By: ArgonV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/01/14 04:28 PM

Thanks!

Those are three 24" 16:10 ASUS PA248Q eIPS screens. I like them a lot as they offer good off-angle viewing and good color for the money, along with excellent response times and low input lag for IPS panels. They are also Displayport native which make Eyefinity setups a breeze. There is some backlight bleeding however (as most IPS panels have), but it's not noticeable unless I'm looking at something nearly completely dark (which is very rare for me). I opted for 16:10 as I like the vertical viewing space, and being able to have two docs open side by side fill the whole screen. I also get less fish-eye in Eyefinity mode.

You can't really tell in the pic, but that's a HOTAS Cougar with the Uber II Nxt gimbals and Hall sensors as well as the machined throttle bushings in the throttle by IJ/Ian. On the floor is the Thrustmaster RCS pedals with Hall sensor mod from CubPilot and to the far right of the desk is a Saitek AV8or for more arcade flying/driving. I have a center pole piece that mounts on the chair for a wheel or yoke. Right now I'm using a Logitech Driving Force Pro force feedback wheel. I'm still rocking my TrackIR 3 Pro with Vector Expansion and will continue to do so until is breaks.

The chair is a Playseat Flight which I love. Before I was using an office chair with HOTAS mounts on the arm rests and it was a PITA if I wanted to scoot in close and play FPS/RPG games as the stick would knock the keyboard tray if I was not careful. Also, using rudder pedals could cause the chair to swivel a bit which was a great annoyance after a while. On the lower back support of the chair I have a Buttkicker Gamer 2 custom mounted which really makes flying that much more responsive. You can feel the engine vibrations in the throttle which is a great feeling! biggrin I also custom-mounted the rear two speakers of my Logitech 5.1 THX surround system to the chair. All of the wires I have neatly tie-wrapped going down the right side and on to the floor to the desk where I don't really walk. The mat under the chair is Playseat's own mat, which saves my carpet from sliding the chair back and fourth when I sit down or get up.

Of course on top of my PC you see the recently acquired Focal Spirit Classic stereo Hi-Fi headphones and Woo Audio stand for when I want to jam out to excellent tunes and be immersed in music without pissing off the neighbors…
Posted By: T}{OR

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/03/14 07:39 AM

My foldable simpit design. Makes both me and the wife happy:





The chair is temporary, stand-in. smile

More photos here:

http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentre/showthread.php?25663-Project-Foldable-SimPit
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/03/14 09:04 AM

Thanks for the info Argon! I used to have problems with rudder pedal movement too that's why I built my pit -- now my chair and pedals and hotas are bolted down to it!

Thor, very nice setup and very clean too! The only downside of a foldable pit is that it isn't very stable which can be difficult when things get exciting. smile
Posted By: T}{OR

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/03/14 10:16 AM

Originally Posted By: - Ice
Thor, very nice setup and very clean too! The only downside of a foldable pit is that it isn't very stable which can be difficult when things get exciting. smile


Thanks. I assure you, it is rock solid stable. Or I have a gentle hand. biggrin
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/13/14 03:17 PM

As I'm in ground school for my Pilot Certificate I decided to go Cessna...



Slightly modifying a CH Products Throttle Quadrant...








I mounted it in the proper location...



The view from the other side...



And just in case I wanted to go back into Stick Mode...



The swap to the stick takes only seconds.
Posted By: TigerL0rd

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/17/14 11:34 PM

I'm mostly done with mine. I would like to eventually move on to curved screen with three BenQ 1080p projectors, but I can't find a reliable curved screen vendor and DIY route would be difficult at this point in time.

I play Rise of Flight and IL2, Elite Dangerous and am a fervent (and nervous) Star Citizen backer.









Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/18/14 01:28 PM

Nice rig! The lower collar on that stick extension of yours looks 3D printed. Where'd you get it?
g.
Posted By: Brandano

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/18/14 03:15 PM

A cheap source for a threaded plastic piece that will fit the base of the Thrustmaster Cougar (and I imagine the Warthog too) are quick-connect garden hose fittings. Won't look nearly as good, mind you.
Posted By: TigerL0rd

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/18/14 05:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Gene Buckle
Nice rig! The lower collar on that stick extension of yours looks 3D printed. Where'd you get it?
g.


I got my extension from Simpit Technologies (they're in New Zealand)
Posted By: Damocles

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/19/14 05:00 AM

Just thought I would show off my new pit for playing BoS. Being married, with a couple of kids, it was important to be able to tuck it away when not required which complicated the design slightly. Although I will probably continue to tinker with it (until I break something no doughbt) it is pretty much finished. The only remaining jobs are to finalize a layout for my Saitek P8000 and design something sexy and to finalize the cockpit instrument style and layout and then print them off in better quality.


Desk set up for other stuff, cockpit parked, note modified desk.

Out of the hanger, but still needs pre-flight.


As above


Control panel removed and joystick lowered into position (note suitcase wheels for easy movement)


In position and ready for some fun.


As above


Well that's it for now, hope you like.
Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/19/14 06:43 PM

Whoa, recent pit posts are super!!
Posted By: hannibal

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/21/14 04:39 AM

amazing work!!!!!! smile
Posted By: Chivas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/14 11:08 PM








Easily slides from under the desk, lock into the Lazyboy footrest, lever up joystick, and start flying in seconds, or just have a nap. wink This setup should work well when the Oculus Rift DK2 arrives in July.
Posted By: Damocles

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/01/14 06:48 AM

Chivas, it looks like you had similar ideas to mine, something that was small, practical and easy to put out of the way when not required.

Have you experimented with raising the foot pedals by a few inches ? Your chair might have a different sitting angle to a typical office chair like mine, i.e lower, but I noticed a big improvement.
Posted By: wraith444

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/01/14 05:08 PM

Here's my simple simpit as it stands so far. I'm planning on expanding it over time, but I'm in no great hurry.

http://imgur.com/a/jnElm

My eventual goal is to build a pit frame that has adjustable settings for the position of each panel, then have the electronics built into removable panels so I can swap them out to allow for multiple aircraft in the same 'pit. I haven't really hashed out the details on that particular idea though, so I have no idea if it's even possible.
Posted By: Chivas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/01/14 05:16 PM

Damocles, I like your design and woodwork. I just slapped mine together, to see if it would work, with plans to build a proper one later. The first prototype worked so well, and the fact I'm lazy, I just painted what I had. The Lazyboy chair is quite low, and the sitting angle didn't require the raising of the foot pedals, so I never gave it a thought, but will investigate further. smile

I was in your area a couple of years ago on a golf holiday. Stayed in Nairn, played a few courses there, then up to Royal Dornoch, with a stop at Inverness for a boat trip up the Lock to visit Nessy. You live in beautiful part of the world.
Posted By: Damocles

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/02/14 05:20 AM

This, is my, "build a proper one later" with several design attempts and fittings along the way, it also took several years to finally get around to doing it properly and like you it was the notion of the Oculus Rift that spurred me on.

While I live in the countryside, Nairn is my local town, so it brought a smile to my face knowing that you had passed by. If you have a partner, and sent her to an Antique shop, for distraction purposes, while you played golf, then she would probably have called into my work "Auldearn Antiques", if indeed you didn't call by yourself.

Yes, it is a lovely area to live, even if I say so myself, it just took twenty years of doing jobs in other places in order to be able to come back and live here properly.
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/06/14 09:43 PM

Update:

Throttle system build in and HALL sensor connected.

http://youtu.be/dZOSMDHATaA
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/08/14 11:50 PM

Originally Posted By: RalphROVpilot
Update:

Throttle system build in and HALL sensor connected.

http://youtu.be/dZOSMDHATaA


Very nice! Check PM please!!
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/09/14 08:10 AM

Fantastic job!
Posted By: tempusmurphy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/09/14 12:46 PM

after our main TV started doing some strange stuff (turning itself on and off) I had to buy a new one ... then as a passing thought ..I found myself thinking would the old TV work as a monitor.. so after a bit of faffing with dvi-hdmi conectors .. it worked ... and to add insult to injury it stopped doing all the strange things it was doing before ...



but on a plus side the wife said Ok and is letting me keep ita as a monitor ... (yay... almost a life sized shark cockpit)
Posted By: PishPosh

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/18/14 06:18 AM

My new simpit is finished...mostly anyway. We just moved into a new house and there was a really big closet-ish area in the office so I made it into my simpit.



- Playseat flightseat
- TM Warthog
- CH Pedals (soon to be replaced)
- 40" Samsung LED TV
- Track IR
- Ergotron Keyboard mounting arm
- LG SoundBar + Subwoofer (not visible, but the soundbar is under the TV and the subwoofer is behind the seat.)
- Wall mounted cupholder. biggrin
Posted By: HitchHikingFlatlander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/18/14 05:35 PM

Thats a cool use of closet nice work!
Posted By: Nails

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/10/14 10:53 PM

Scratchbuilt Hawker Hurricane Mk II cockpit.

Made from Plastic piping from B & Q, and some switches from Maplins. H-Leaver made out of a used underarm deodorant bottle and a piece of dowel.

Posted By: Flying_Colander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/11/14 12:58 AM

Well done, Nails. Film intro was impressive. Never seen the microfiche-title setting done before. Works well.

You do realize that you'll now have to make several tutorials on how you made your great pit!? How'd you do your throttle, trim wheel and doohicky with the deodorant ball?

Good on ya,

FC
Posted By: Nails

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/11/14 03:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Flying_Colander
Well done, Nails. Film intro was impressive. Never seen the microfiche-title setting done before. Works well.

You do realize that you'll now have to make several tutorials on how you made your great pit!? How'd you do your throttle, trim wheel and doohicky with the deodorant ball?

Good on ya,

FC


Morning FC, and thanks. All is revealed in this thread over at the Air Tactical Assault Group.

http://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5940
Posted By: Flying_Colander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/11/14 04:16 AM

Bookmarked, mate. Thanks for that. I'll be taking a few tips from you no doubt.

FC
Posted By: ArgonV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/15/14 06:04 PM

Originally Posted By: PishPosh
My new simpit is finished...mostly anyway. We just moved into a new house and there was a

- Playseat flightseat
- TM Warthog
- CH Pedals (soon to be replaced)
- 40" Samsung LED TV
- Track IR
- Ergotron Keyboard mounting arm
- LG SoundBar + Subwoofer (not visible, but the soundbar is under the TV and the subwoofer is behind the seat.)
- Wall mounted cupholder. biggrin


I see you went with the Playseat Flight! I love mine. I didn't want a full pit, but instead wanted to use my existing desk and this chair is perfect for that.
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/24/14 04:30 PM

Hi Guys,

Finally got back in to working on the pit. Put the hatch, top and side on and made a door latch. Couple of cupboard door openers help to open it up when the latch is released. The right side console also hinges up and back to make entry and exit easier.

Monitor at the front is temporary. Will have a screen and back projection.

Only problem I have now is that cat has decided he likes sleeping on the seat .....






cheers,

Andy
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/24/14 05:53 PM

Oh my....I mean, just Oh My!
thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
That is just the coolest simpit I have seen in a long time. Going to check your site for more pics (hopefully).
Cheers and thanks for posting,
Derek
Posted By: Flying_Colander

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/25/14 01:43 AM

Okay, okay, Andy. Now you're just making the rest of us look bad.

Great work, mate.

Flying Colander
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/25/14 08:31 PM

Excellent job!

g.
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/26/14 07:22 PM

one last shot before i tear it down for a dedicated dash and pit....and maybe joyrider rig
lost count the number f rebuilds this has been through

Posted By: jocko-

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/05/14 11:01 PM

Have been using and loving my Obutto R3volution pit now for a while but have decided that since prop fighter sims are my main passion and we are in a bit of a prop sim renaissance at the moment (software-wise), that the time had come for a major investment.

After squirreling money away for three years, and with no domestic emergencies requiring the funds in the mean time, I ordered a SpitSim set of flight controls a few months back after spending some weeks spit balling with the designer about some custom work. It's not here yet, and the waiting has just gotten harder since some progress pics have shown up:




The controls are designed and built by Jon Fellows, and are repro Spitfire but I've had some extra switches added, a mix of period Air Ministry stuff for aircraft systems and some modern stuff for sim interface functions (pause, ext views, etc).

The seat is adjustable fore and aft.

The spade grip has some additional stuff for the thumb, a 4-way hat and small push button:



The original SpitSim controls used linear pots but mine is the first to use Hall sensors instead.

On the right side, aft of the landing gear control is a switch panel based on the Spitfire's IFF panel, two push buttons that are shielded for stuff like canopy jettison/bailout, a 3-position toggle switch mounted fore and aft for open/close canopy, and a guarded toggle switch for emergency gear lowering (the real system was a lever that allowed compressed air to flow from a small tank - just aft of the blue circle in the pic below):



Under the power quadrant and trim wheel on the left is a 5-switch panel for various stuff, battery/generator/fuel pump, etc.

There will also be a desk-like frame ahead of the controls with a larger switch panel on each side with a gap between to fit a 19" touchscreen secondary monitor, for instruments or whatever I want to look at. My current primary monitor is a 55" TV on the wall ahead. The desk and forward panels are still being built.

Here's a sketch of the desk concept:




Switches are based on a combination of the Spit and Hurri cockpit panel and include:







...Back to waiting....patiently waiting... for the SpitSim...and the folks from the asylum... It's a race to get here first...
Posted By: Lausbub78

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/06/14 11:32 AM

Wow, congrats on this nice setup. Can't wait to see pictures of the completed pit.
Posted By: ReviZorro

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/26/14 10:46 AM

Common configuration:



Using Dyson Cool wink and Oculus Rift DK1:


Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/26/14 04:57 PM

Nice Setup! How is the Oculus Rift working out? Which sim(s) are you using it with, and was it complicated to set up?
Dud
Posted By: Chivas

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/26/14 11:13 PM

It would be cool to fly open pit aircraft, with the DK2, and a Dyson Cool controlled by the throttle/aircraft speed.
Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/27/14 02:02 AM

I might have to pick a DK2 up... I have knee surgery next Friday (courtesy of the VA) and will be out of work for two months. It'd be awesome to use in DCS... I just hope support for it comes to BMS. That's probably the only thing keeping me on the fence.
Posted By: ReviZorro

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/27/14 10:03 AM

Originally Posted By: DudleyAz
Nice Setup! How is the Oculus Rift working out? Which sim(s) are you using it with, and was it complicated to set up?
Dud

Thx! )
DK1 is only fist step in VR, so I practice landigs, air refueling, aerobatics and simply voyage over the map only. No air combats or ground target attacks due to low DK1 resolution. But I looking forward for DK2.
My favorite sim for OR is DCS World, that have a native support.

And for Dyson Cool - any sims are better with it in hot conditions smile
But especially with open cockpit - RoF (with TriDef 3D) and Outerra Anteworld with custom Shavrov SH-2 Flying Boat (love this plane) smile

Originally Posted By: Chivas
It would be cool to fly open pit aircraft, with the DK2, and a Dyson Cool controlled by the throttle/aircraft speed.

It will be great, but I have no idea how to control Dyson Cool...

Originally Posted By: RogueSqdn
I might have to pick a DK2 up... I have knee surgery next Friday (courtesy of the VA) and will be out of work for two months. It'd be awesome to use in DCS... I just hope support for it comes to BMS. That's probably the only thing keeping me on the fence.

Get well soon.
Wags announced full support for DK2 in DCS World - http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2129179#post2129179
Hope you can enjoy this.
Posted By: LuseKofte

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/14 09:48 PM

[img]https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hpho...amp;oe=54799E31[/img]
Posted By: Merlins51

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/12/14 01:52 AM

First time posting at SimHQ (although been reading for a while). Just got my rudder pedals in the post yesterday so thought it a great time to display the pit.

Incidentally, can't say enough good things about the MFG Crosswinds and about Milan himself. His customer service is unparalleled.


Posted By: daniel_83

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/19/14 05:31 PM

Hey guys

I’ve seen a couple of nice simpit builds in this thread, so here goes for my first post on the forum.

Here the requirements that had to be considered for the build:
1) The room it had to fit in didn’t have the space to accommodate an additional large ‘furniture‘ and the PC had to double as a normal desktop PC
2) Using a chair with a swivel on wheels didn't work so well with the IR head tracker because it did not offer enough stability when using all of the six available tracking axis, so a stable chair was considered important
3) Maximum felt accuracy on the stick for WW2 simms

Here's what I came up with:





To increase the felt accuracy I went with a 20cm extension and then mounted the stick on a center mount in front of the seat.
The centering mechanism is still strong enough in this length, however I do not recommend to go beyond. Sahaj has done an nice job on the extension tube, and the included 5 pin cable fits perfectly.

The whole installation was placed at the side of the existing desk, and the cables were arranged so that the monitors and keyboard can be moved between the sim and desktop configuration in a couple of seconds
I’m quite happy with this. Not only has the accuracy of flying and head tracking improved quite a bit, it also stopped the ache in the shoulder that I got on a regular basis when the stick and throttle were still placed on the desk at a wrong height. I hope you enjoy the attached pictures, have fun.

Posted By: Gunnyhighway

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/01/15 12:43 PM

Originally Posted By: 531 Ghost
Here ya go Mr. Monk...






And oodles of stuff can be found HERE

Building one is both a journey, and an adventure. It's taken me 5 years to get it juuuuuust right. Good luck!

cheers


What are those white marks on the front edge of the seat fabric?...Hydraulic fluid leaks from the stick?...Eew!...This is not for public viewing!...
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/01/15 01:41 PM

That was grey paint. Safe for the kiddies to view.
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/02/15 02:42 PM

Latest addition to the fleet...


oh god. IT IS a fleet now.

*sobs quietly*

g.
Posted By: Beazil

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/02/15 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: f15sim
Latest addition to the fleet...


oh god. IT IS a fleet now.

*sobs quietly*

g.


Nice pit!
Posted By: SquidgyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/02/15 04:08 PM

Not so much a "cockpit" just a chair, HOTAS & pedals... But here we go:

Mounted and modified X55 setup (bolted onto an office chair modded Recaro bucket seat) - Joystick has the guts of an MS FFB2 and has been extended slightly.



Ignore the old pedals in the background... They were ritually cannibalised to make:

...the pedals described in this thread:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4047268/all/Another_DIY_rudder_pedal_threa

Posted By: AggressorBLUE

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/16/15 02:51 PM

Nice!

Neat mod for the FFB2, and other pics of that?
Posted By: Zahry

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/25/15 12:58 AM

here is my little cockpit


Posted By: AggressorBLUE

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/25/15 01:02 PM

nice! I've been eyeing that up over at the simpit site.


Also a happy customer of that stick extension. smile
Posted By: Zahry

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/26/15 10:00 PM

AggressorBLUE - thanks :-) Glad to hear it. I'll be making budget version of the system with standard screen (without the black pearl surface)
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/02/15 07:46 PM

close to finishing my Multirole MIP


Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/11/15 06:42 PM

some more pics


Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/12/15 04:42 PM

Excellent work!

g.
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/15 02:54 PM

Latest about my pit:

MLU conversion ongoing, ICP works now
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/15 02:59 PM

Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/08/15 01:49 PM

Very nice work!
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/15 01:31 PM

Holy Cow! That is phenomenal.
Posted By: daniel_83

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/05/15 05:04 PM

Hi all
short update on the status previously posted [here].

I've just replaced the controller board on the Schreiner Schmidt KG-20 with the one Milan is making available (MFG SiMM8Rge).

I'm quite happy because his software allows to adjust the sensor resolution to match the physical range of the stick movement. I now have 4000+ increments compared to the around 400 the original setup had.


Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/17/15 01:19 PM

Thank you,

3 beamers will be added later this year




Posted By: LuseKofte

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/02/15 12:17 AM


Relocated after moving smile still WIP
Posted By: Organdonor

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/19/15 03:02 AM



Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/23/15 05:28 AM

Nice work Organdonor! Where did you get the seat?
Posted By: robv

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/27/15 09:57 PM

Hello,

I only recently seen this topic. I have been working for the past 5 months on getting my DIY gaming chair setup finished. It all started with making my own joystick, and then quickly got sucked into getting a seat and a triple screen. I made the seat to play Elite Dangerous (space sim) but the joystick is just a generic HID controller, which means I can use it with any game.

Here are some photos of the build:





Throttle and switchpanel closeup:


Custom PCB:


Swith panel in development:


Under the bonnet:


Foot controller prototype:
Posted By: LuseKofte

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/27/15 11:46 PM

That is excellent work and beautiful . Love it smile
Posted By: robv

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/28/15 10:42 PM

Thank you kindly
Posted By: 69th_Zeb

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/02/16 03:58 PM

Hoping to build a scale spitfire sim out of formed aluminum and rivets. Until then, here's my recent rally sim project.

[img:center]http://imgur.com/oAcbMeE[/img]
[img:center]http://imgur.com/2X96nkd[/img]
[img:center]http://imgur.com/xBNUKMn[/img]

I made a processing/arduino interface which I hope to do for making custom steam gauges.
Here's a video of it at work:
Posted By: The_Winger

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/21/16 09:04 AM

Originally Posted By: daniel_83
Hi all
short update on the status previously posted [here].

I've just replaced the controller board on the Schreiner Schmidt KG-20 with the one Milan is making available (MFG SiMM8Rge).

I'm quite happy because his software allows to adjust the sensor resolution to match the physical range of the stick movement. I now have 4000+ increments compared to the around 400 the original setup had.






Thumbsup daniel. I did the same. The bodnar board just plain sucks compared to Milans.

Posted By: JODEL112

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/22/16 07:30 PM

I'm building an Me 109 G2 simpit and this is where it's at right now.
Posted By: JODEL112

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/22/16 07:31 PM

I have made the hinged canopy and am fitting and adjusting it.I get great satisfaction from this project!....anyone got a Tarmac Aces 109 throttle quadrant for sale? Or any suggestions for making a reasonable accurate quadrant? Also, I have a resin KG 13 grip. Any guidance on how to drill and fit it for working switches?

regards
Mick
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/22/16 08:04 PM

Very nice!

g.
Posted By: Sokol1

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/23/16 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: JODEL112
...anyone got a Tarmac Aces 109 throttle quadrant for sale? Or any suggestions for making a reasonable accurate quadrant?


In Shapeways are some parts for print this quadrant (attention that one handle grip have the "Kleiner" wrong).

https://www.shapeways.com/product/NKGBZE...tionId=57233751
https://www.shapeways.com/product/SNEDZ3...tionId=57352416
https://www.shapeways.com/product/FJG5XYAEW/german-switch?li=shop-results&optionId=40226786

Dont remember if are more parts, look at Rossco shop.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/spit

I have some drawings shared by Russian guy that allow make a reasonable copy of Bf 109 "gashebel", if interest.

Posted By: 453Raafspitty

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/23/16 11:29 AM

Quote:

In Shapeways are some parts for print this quadrant (attention that one handle grip have the "Kleiner" wrong).

Is fixed now.. smile
https://www.shapeways.com/product/NKGBZE...tionId=57233751
My throttle quadrant body is off original measurements as well wink
https://www.shapeways.com/product/WH3QH5...tionId=55117146
Cheers for the nudge.. smile
Posted By: JODEL112

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/23/16 09:40 PM

more bits for 109 pit


Top picture is a trial of the colour scheme....next pic is of the armour at the rear of the hinged canopy and the overhead armour...in the real thing, the armour is slanted forward but this way was easier
Posted By: JODEL112

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/24/16 10:49 AM

the best way to consider your instrument panel...draw it on paper first
Posted By: 453Raafspitty

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/24/16 12:18 PM

Niiiice..Looks about right wink
Posted By: JODEL112

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/24/16 02:33 PM

that's the one! nearly went blind taking measurements off it.
Posted By: 453Raafspitty

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/25/16 12:53 AM

LOL sometimes I cheat and just trace it in CAD..
Posted By: Volans

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/19/16 10:29 PM

My first attempt ever! Just a "bare bone" cockpit from welded iron frame and a (old) car seat.
Because of tight room space, it has to be narrow, pliable and everything should be "onboard".
Still needs a lot of work..









Posted By: Kemai

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/16/16 05:31 AM

Hello All,

Here is a very early look at my simpit. I'm a star citizen backer/fangirl (im a guy its just a joke...)

I have little skill not to mention almost no budget or space or time but having a immersive game setup has always been a fantasy of mine. Many hours in my youth on the overpriced arcade setups, no more quarters here!

180 degree twin projector screen (8 foot diameter - 300lbs of 2x4's...) The controls/chair area is very early. I barely have the frame mocked up. Oh sorry for the crap cell phone pics taken in the dark...

Parts on hand
HOTAS (2nd hand x45)
USB controller for toggle switches (about 20 or so switches to be used)
Bass shakers for chair
7" and 9" tablets for custom controls with roccat powergrid

To be purchased/DIYed
Full version on simpit technologies warp/blend software
Rudder pedals
Track IR or equiv
Space Beer cooler built into chair...
1000 other things that escape me at moment, damn space beers.





Posted By: AggressorBLUE

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/16/16 02:36 PM

Nice! Interested to hear more about your screens setup. Any chance you could post more pics? smile
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/16/16 05:41 PM

Nice setup, Kemai! And welcome to the rabbit hole!
Posted By: Timothy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/07/16 07:49 AM

I wonder, how much of these pits with gauges will go by the wayside when the Vive becomes mainstream?
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/07/16 10:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Timothy
I wonder, how much of these pits with gauges will go by the wayside when the Vive becomes mainstream?



Zero.

IF/WHEN someone figures out how to use the forward looking camera to blend the actual cockpit with the virtual sim world wink
Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/07/16 02:37 PM

......And if/when flight sims get legacy support.
Right now only DCS has support.

VR has a very long road in front of it before it is a good replacement for a high end/high res monitor.
Posted By: Duchess

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/09/16 02:37 PM

I find it odd that of all places SimHQ would be hesitant for VR support.

Now I know Warthunder is NOT a sim. I get it.

However, the VR experience is absolutely stunning. The difference between flying biplanes, to me-110's or jets is astounding.

The first time I got into a fur ball flying a cr.42 vs a an I-15, it was something I'll remember forever. Craning my neck to judge the angles, watching the condensation streaming off the wingtips in tight turns... In my mind I can feel the G forces in tight turns.

Flyinside for FSX is excellent but I haven't tried it since Oculus went 1.0
Posted By: RainMan

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/31/16 03:41 PM

Here's my now butchered Obutto Ozone pit after removing the too narrow pedal area to make room to accommodate my new Baur BRD-F3 peals:







Cables need some extensions to be hidden away, still:
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/06/16 07:54 PM





Change of direction for my pit. Just waiting for my OR to arrive. Just enough physical buttons and analog controls to find virtually blindfolded
Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/06/16 08:17 PM

Very clean set up you have there - well done.

Especially love the braided stainless cable to the switch box.

Andy
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/16 01:59 PM

clean compact just right for a motion platform you say?...challenge accepted biggrin
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/09/16 05:50 AM

I Like it! Can you show it with the trim and mix lever modules in place? I'm curious where/how they fit.
Dud
Posted By: krysnic

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/17/16 10:08 AM


Posted By: alerise

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/11/17 09:47 PM

This is the cabin style I'm looking for. Great job guys
Posted By: Marc

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/12/17 12:00 AM

Mine using a Playseat Challenge, love it




Marc..
Posted By: CyBerkut

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/12/17 06:38 PM

Very nice, Marc!
Posted By: Marc

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/13/17 04:29 PM

Originally Posted By: CyBerkut
Very nice, Marc!


Thanks!!

Marc..
Posted By: skunk160

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/24/17 06:12 PM

Finally made it into VR copter

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3060725&postcount=88
Posted By: Gypsy31

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/11/17 04:45 PM

It's still a WIP but here's what I have so far.
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Outside view is a 27inch monitor. I have a networked computer running a 22 inch monitor for the gauges behind the panel. Two arduinos, 1 Mega for aircraft specific (F-14 Tomcat), switches, buttons, levers and 1 Leonardo for common simulator functions that I use for other aircraft also, such as landing gear lever, tailhook, parking brake, heading and course encoders.

Thrustmaster Warthog for the controls, the joystick has a 10cm extension from Sahaj, and Saitek Combat pedals to throw the nose around. I'm sure I'm forgetting something. I still need to finish labeling the Left and Right vertical panels.

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Oh, and another arduino running a radio stack meant to resemble something found in military fighters
Posted By: Nails

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/11/17 06:20 AM

Someone told me to post my vid in here. It was currently in RAF Spitties parts thread (as some of the stuff I use, is from him).

Hawker Hurricane - Cliffs of Dover

Posted By: DanTDBV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/07/17 05:56 AM

My current Simpit:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dantdbv/albums/72157679203107694

I am heading towards a heavy rebuild, so a lot of this is soon to be history.

Happy Simming
Posted By: DanTDBV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/07/17 06:32 AM

Now with descriptions
Posted By: EllisEF

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/06/17 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kemai
Hello All,

Here is a very early look at my simpit. I'm a star citizen backer/fangirl (im a guy its just a joke...)

I have little skill not to mention almost no budget or space or time but having a immersive game setup has always been a fantasy of mine. Many hours in my youth on the overpriced arcade setups, no more quarters here!

180 degree twin projector screen (8 foot diameter - 300lbs of 2x4's...) The controls/chair area is very early. I barely have the frame mocked up. Oh sorry for the crap cell phone pics taken in the dark...

Parts on hand
HOTAS (2nd hand x45)
USB controller for toggle switches (about 20 or so switches to be used)
Bass shakers for chair
7" and 9" tablets for custom controls with roccat powergrid

To be purchased/DIYed
Full version on simpit technologies warp/blend software
Rudder pedals
Track IR or equiv
Space Beer cooler built into chair...
1000 other things that escape me at moment, damn space beers.

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Hello!

I noticed you have used the non-registered version of that warping software, how can I obtain it, and what are the differences between it and the registered version?
Posted By: J.A.K.

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/29/17 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Gypsy31
It's still a WIP but here's what I have so far.
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Outside view is a 27inch monitor. I have a networked computer running a 22 inch monitor for the gauges behind the panel. Two arduinos, 1 Mega for aircraft specific (F-14 Tomcat), switches, buttons, levers and 1 Leonardo for common simulator functions that I use for other aircraft also, such as landing gear lever, tailhook, parking brake, heading and course encoders.

Thrustmaster Warthog for the controls, the joystick has a 10cm extension from Sahaj, and Saitek Combat pedals to throw the nose around. I'm sure I'm forgetting something. I still need to finish labeling the Left and Right vertical panels.

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Oh, and another arduino running a radio stack meant to resemble something found in military fighters

WOW
Posted By: Viper1970

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/17 01:58 PM

Wow, I too love the F-14!!!

Here is my Universal Cockpit Project. Sadly nothing really new at the moment, besides a few changes at the main panel to integrate some LCD's. I made a photo of the whole thing this time, so you could see the "back seat" too. I would like to fly fighter jets, attack helos and some big military transport aircraft (helos) too.

Thats why it has an mini overhead panel also. The HOTAS are interchangeable for every type of aircraft. Some other pics are arround here at SimHQ.

For other simulations like Steelbeasts Pro or Dangerous Waters the "back seat" is used or if a simulation has a controllable WSO/RIO you could of course use this too.

RL catched me again, so not much time to work on it at the moment. Then there is a simulation, that is really near my heart and I absolutely want that it's staying alive. It's EECH Allmods (superb attack helicopter simulation). I'm spending much time with this now.

I do my very best to get the modding for it starting again. Maybe some of you guys are interested in helicopters too, then take a look here in the forum. We need people who are willing to help and able to program C# / C++ or could do 3D with Lightwave.



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Posted By: Lausbub78

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/17 06:00 PM

Viper1970, I have seen your other pictures too and really love your ideas.
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/17 06:09 PM

Man, the "Photobucket Debacle" really took a toll on this thread, especially older posts.
Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/17 09:37 PM

I started to use TinyPic when posting on forums. Pretty simple and free.

Where do you live in SC? I'm supposed to go to N Myrtle on Sunday for a week, but it's looking like we'll change our vacation to a Wed-Wed weeklong.
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/17 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by RogueSqdn
I started to use TinyPic when posting on forums. Pretty simple and free.

Where do you live in SC? I'm supposed to go to N Myrtle on Sunday for a week, but it's looking like we'll change our vacation to a Wed-Wed weeklong.


Upstate, near Greenville. Yeah, I wouldn't make plans anywhere on the eastern coastal regions in the next week or so.
Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/17 10:18 PM

Well, good... you're like me, far enough inland that wind is really the only major concern. I don't know about you, but I'm old enough to remember Hugo. I live about 15 miles west of Winston-Salem (lived 30 min north of the city when Hugo came).

I think by Wednesday things should be mostly cleared out. Assuming the roads into Horry are clear we should be ok. I heard today that 501 is having the southbound lanes reversed, but we don't take that route to the beach... I take 74 all the way to Chadbourn, then come down through Tabor City to hit SC 9 and 22.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/17 11:15 PM

And now you're only 4 1/2 hours away from me RS.
Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/07/17 11:33 PM

Elizabeth City, wasn't it?

EDIT: I can see that on the sidebar now. I typed my response from my phone and couldn't see it. wink
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/08/17 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by RogueSqdn
Well, good... you're like me, far enough inland that wind is really the only major concern. I don't know about you, but I'm old enough to remember Hugo.


Yep, I remember Hugo. I remember driving to Charleston about a year later and seeing forests of felled trees.

They're predicting 60 mph winds, gusts to 75, for SC upstate on Tuesday!
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/11/17 08:23 AM

my lanc sim (hopefully I've got the pics to show?) after rebuilding it again, 4 man crew (Pilot,flt eng,nav and wireless op). still in the process of collecting more controls and monitors etc but slowly getting there.....



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Posted By: Viper1970

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/12/17 04:27 PM

@Lausbub78

Thank's! The idea was cool, but it's really hard to get all working. I hope I can finish it someday. At the moment caused by illness I have not so much desire for it, but I hope things get better somewhere in future. It's the dream of my past twenty years and I absolutely want to bring it to reality. In the meanwhile I do the "brain work", so that I could go further if things get better and my son has time to help me again. Without him most of the work should not have been possible.

@50sqnwopag

Wow, I wish I could do something comparable in terms of perfection. Looks really good!

Posted By: RogueSqdn

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/24/17 09:27 AM

I took my Obutto apart to but some mats down under it. Used gray puzzle piece mats from Lowes and two anti-fatigue mats from Home Depot with a diamond pattern. Pretty pleased with results. I also took the opportunity to rewire everything neatly.

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Posted By: kenventions

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/02/17 04:23 PM

Here's my VR Cockpit Desk - https://www.instructables.com/id/VR-Cockpit-Desk/

Ken

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Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/03/17 04:27 PM

Nice job! FYI, the color isn't "Navy". wink

g.
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/04/17 04:34 PM

Great job on the deskpit Ken, and your instructions are fabulous. Great attention to detail that anyone could follow. Outstanding!
Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/06/17 11:14 AM

+1

Have to agree, great project log and info
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/14/17 12:23 PM

It's a work in progress, still...

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Posted By: Mr_Blastman

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/14/17 05:41 PM

Wait a minute... do I see Thrustmaster products on Ghost's rig? Boy, times have changed. =) *friendly nudge*
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/14/17 09:55 PM

Would love to see the labels on those switches on the CH throttle smile
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/15/17 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by - Ice
Would love to see the labels on those switches on the CH throttle smile


Quote
FOR EVALUATION ONLY
wink
Posted By: f15sim

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/15/17 08:51 PM

What've you got displaying the HSI & ADI in the instrument panel? Looks nice.

g.
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/16/17 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by f15sim
What've you got displaying the HSI & ADI in the instrument panel? Looks nice.

g.


FS Radio Panel < CLICK on my Samsung tablet. Works with both FSX and P3D.
Posted By: AggressorBLUE

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/03/18 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by 531 Ghost
It's a work in progress, still...

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No true simmer in history has ever "finished" a sim pit.

wink
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/04/18 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by AggressorBLUE
Originally Posted by 531 Ghost
It's a work in progress, still...

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No true simmer in history has ever "finished" a sim pit.

wink


My wife and I, agree. biggrin
Posted By: 602RAF_Puff

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/05/18 02:48 PM

Testing this stuff out for a friend, helping develop it. Aims to release further modules too

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Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/05/18 07:10 PM

Nice Puff.

Looking at the photos am I safe to say that the side panel that everything is mounted on is part of the setup in DEV as well as the Stick
Posted By: 453Raafspitty

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/06/18 12:10 AM

Good one..Have had to put my project on hold due to customers work..

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Posted By: 602RAF_Puff

Re: Please show off your pit. - 01/06/18 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Steve_F
Nice Puff.

Looking at the photos am I safe to say that the side panel that everything is mounted on is part of the setup in DEV as well as the Stick

Yep, you get the whole thing smile
Posted By: Passion_killer87

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/12/18 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by 50sqnwopag
my lanc sim (hopefully I've got the pics to show?) after rebuilding it again, 4 man crew (Pilot,flt eng,nav and wireless op). still in the process of collecting more controls and monitors etc but slowly getting there.....



Wow thats dedication. I'm building a yoke thats based in the lancaster/ wellington that would look great in there. Ill upload some photos when I've figured out how.
Posted By: Passion_killer87

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/13/18 07:44 PM

Figured it out

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Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/07/18 04:44 PM

Here are some pictures of my SimPit

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Posted By: Marc

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/07/18 08:46 PM

Looking great Spec.......

Marc..
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/07/18 11:04 PM

Nice one! What's with the ramp? Any pics of your seat? What size monitors are those?

I really like how you have both the TM WH setup and also a yoke stup at the same time! I'g guessing this raised your main screens quite a bit though, yes?
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/08/18 03:34 PM

As these pics show, the ramp is for the chair. Since the pit is wrapped around I had to be able to have my chair on wheels to roll in and out. You can see the guides help the chair stay in the center so it can't bump the sides. I modded my late father's electric chair for my use. The monitors are 32" each and it did seem high but with the reclined angle of the chair, its quite comfortable. I included pics of the chair sitting in my cardboard mockup before starting the finished pit.

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Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/08/18 03:38 PM

One other note. You can see in one of the photos two buttons on the right behind my stick. The red one is to turn on my PC and the smaller white one is the reset button. I looked on line for a remote switch for my PC but couldn't find one to my liking so I did what any simpit builder would do, I made my own and it works perfectly.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/08/18 10:12 PM

Sweet! I am guessing you don't put the ramp on the up position when you're inside? Also, what are those handles on the end of the side consoles?

Here's my version of the rails system, and some pics of my pit as well. Not sure if I've posted here before; I've posted these elsewhere so might as well do so here.

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Top screens are 27" 1920x1080 monitors and **almost** fill my peripheral vision. Bottom screens are touchscreens, 24" for the center one and 22" for the side one.
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/08/18 11:40 PM

Your looks nice. I like the seat.

The ramp only comes up when I have to move it around to do maintenance or to clean behind it. That's where the handles come in handy.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/09/18 01:09 PM

Thanks specialksl!
Posted By: Marc

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/09/18 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by - Ice
Sweet! I am guessing you don't put the ramp on the up position when you're inside? Also, what are those handles on the end of the side consoles?

Here's my version of the rails system, and some pics of my pit as well. Not sure if I've posted here before; I've posted these elsewhere so might as well do so here.

Top screens are 27" 1920x1080 monitors and **almost** fill my peripheral vision. Bottom screens are touchscreens, 24" for the center one and 22" for the side one.


Nice and clean setup Ice

Marc..
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/09/18 06:55 PM

BTW, my simpit has wheels so I can move it around in my basement. Another reason for the handles.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/09/18 09:14 PM

Didn't bother putting wheels on my setup.... why would you move it around? My game room is carpeted as you can see and the whole setup is heavy; it's a pain to move if I need to do some maintenance work.

Originally Posted by Marc
Nice and clean setup Ice

Thanks Marc! It was only like that for a moment as I've just finished setting it up. Normally there's papers everywhere, a couple of game manuals within easy reach, some drinks, a few empty snack bowls, a fluffy blanket to keep my feet warm.... biggrin
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/12/18 01:17 PM

Ice...You answered your own question. It would be a pain to move around for maintenance and especially improvements, which I do a lot of. The wheels and the handles make it easy to move.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/12/18 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by specialksl
The wheels and the handles make it easy to move.

I did debate putting wheels on mine but again, carpets plus I like a nice stable platform. I do pay for it everytime I need to do maintenance frown
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/12/18 07:55 PM

Ice, I see your dilemma. You could put it on a base then put wheels on that. It would probably raise it up 2 inches because you would need carpet wheels. Other than that, I wish you trouble free maintenance
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/12/18 08:27 PM

I think your setup is only consoles and your chair? Mine includes the monitors and with all the material, it's quite heavy. Luckily I only have to do maintenance maybe 1-2x per year. smile

I'm thinking of putting the side monitors or maybe all three display monitors on gas-lift monitor arms and then incorporating my entire PC hardware into the build itself, but that'll be for another time. If it's hard enough finding monitor arms for 27", I may have more trouble on 32" screens wink
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/13/18 01:07 AM

No. It is everything. All on one large base. Only separate piece is the PC case. It is heavy and that's why I put everything on a 3/4 inch plywood base.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/13/18 12:28 PM

I see. Well, mine is on a base as well and everything is connected via screws. I initially just had the different parts together but found that my side consoles had a bit of a wobble so I added a base that secured the side consoles --- and everything else. Any chance you can link the wheels you're suggesting?
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/13/18 02:17 PM

Here in the states I went to Home Depot and got swivel wheels with 4 screw holes. I don't remember exactly which ones I bought but I know I didn't want them too high so that the sim would move while I am using it.

Here is the link to the wheels I think I used;
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Richeli...eral-Duty-Swivel-Caster-F22901/204695723

As you can see by the pics, I had to put 2 separate pieces of 3/4 inch plywood together to make the front side which is holding the stands I build for the 3 monitors and all electrical connections.

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Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/13/18 04:39 PM

Thanks for that link. I've seen some of these but didn't deem them strong enough for my needs, but then didn't think of putting multiples. However, my setup is built out of MDF, I wonder if the material is strong enough to withstand the forces/weight? If so, might be an idea for the next pit build.
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/13/18 05:16 PM

Ice, how thick is the MDF? Only my base is plywood. The rest is MDF, 1/2 inch, non structural MDF is 1/4 and 1/8 MDF. MDF takes paint better than plywood.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/13/18 05:35 PM

It's 12mm MDF but that is only on the side consoles; the rest of the build was connected to my main platform with is another 12mm MDF so most of the weight-bearing areas have 24mm MDF essentially. There are also areas after the MDF that have a good amount of timber, such as the rails areas of my setup. However, the issue is whether the MDF can take the weight and not compress or come apart even if the screws can go deep enough to hold the castor wheels in place.
Posted By: Marc

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/16/18 07:11 PM

Not a pit but a chair if that's alright
Made this just for TAW smile

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Marc..
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/16/18 08:16 PM

Sweet chair! Can you tell us how you got your controls mounted?
Posted By: Marc

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/16/18 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by - Ice
Sweet chair! Can you tell us how you got your controls mounted?

Thanks Ice

I used Ram mounts, 1" ball, love those things
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Marc..
Posted By: Swine08

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/26/18 04:31 PM

Ice, can you explain how your seat rail system works/is constructed? Thanks, I would like to build something similiar. Thanks!
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/26/18 06:05 PM

Thanks Marc! I didn't know the RAM mounts can be that sturdy!

Swine08, I just mounted my seat on a frame with some castor wheels on. I chose the bigger ones as they can support more weight! **hint!hint!nudge!nudge!** Then it's just a simple task of placing wooden "guides" and making a skirt around the chair assembly to cover everything.

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Hope that helps!
Posted By: Swine08

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/26/18 06:50 PM

Thanks
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/02/18 07:12 PM

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Posted By: ATAG_Invictus

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/03/18 11:59 AM



Apologies for the shaky video work.
Posted By: DanTDBV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/18 12:59 AM

After a long hiatus ending with a total systems reformat and before reinstalling the controllers, I decided to make the controller mounts for my chair, that has been bubbling around in my head for a while.

Unless I decide to do some adjustments, it is now finished.

The chair in Battlefront mode.
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The base plates are fastened in the armrest holes. On top of these are mounted 3 curtain rails. The 2 outer as guides and the middle one for support.

The main plates are attached to the base plate, with M6 screw’s, that tightens square nut’s, that slides in the rails. The main plates are adjustable side to side.

The chair in Drive mode.
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The main plates have 2 curtain rails, with metal strips glued to the inside of each wall. This to stop M6 Hex bolts from spinning in the rails.

The controller mounts are attached to the main plate, with M6 Hex bolts, sliding in the rail’s, going trough holes in the bottom plate of the mounts, fastened with washers and wingnuts.

Easier to catch than the square nut in the rail.

The chair in Flight mode.
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Desktop in Drive mode
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Desktop in Flight mode.
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Desktop in Work mode.
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Next to do?

Install controllers and play.

Happy Simming.
Posted By: Talon

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/18 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by DanTDBV
After a long hiatus ending with a total systems reformat and before reinstalling the controllers, I decided to make the controller mounts for my chair, that has been bubbling around in my head for a while.

Happy Simming.



Hey Dan,

I'm curious... What monitors are you using for your MFDs? I've been trying to figure out a MFD solution and have several ideas floating around in my head. I like the mini-usb monitor idea but it seems to be hit or miss.

Anyway, nice set up.

Thanks,

--T
Posted By: DanTDBV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/18 03:24 PM

Thank you Talon.

My main screens are running on a GeForce GTX 970. Even though that it has 6 connections, it can only use 4 outputs at the same time.

I got a GeForce GT 710 to run the 8" screens

I have had them up and running MFCD exports with DCS World, But I am currently in the process of setting up everything after a systems reformat and upgrade to DCS World 2.5.

I bought 2 of these: Eyoyo S801C Super 8 Inch IPS LCD Monitor 1204x768.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XC3H44F/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I would recommend getting those mentioned later instead.

There are some major and minor drawbacks on these.

Major
There are holes in the right places for Vesa mounts, but there are no metal threads for mounting. I guess they have chosen to omit the nuts for some reason.
The USB-C socket is not raised from the back of the screen, so the cable delivered can't be used, it is not possible to plug it in.
I only noticed this on the online pics after I had gotten them.
Minor
In both of my examples the finger bolt in the stand where to long, so it would hit the back of the screen before tightening on the Tslot plate.

I solved this by adding a washer, to the bolt on the rear of the stand.

The Tslot plate is very thin and flimsy and the hole in the stand for the finger bolt, is a mishap just waiting.
I could not feel that I was deforming the Tslot plate with the square nut, while tightening the finger bolt. I also managed to to strip the thread from one of the square nut in the process.

The finger bolt and square nut are using the same thread as camera mounts. 1/4 20 BSW Whitworth

I very much recommend adding some washers to the hole, so it is not possible to pull the plate into it.

I had broken the stuff myself, but the seller was willing to send me 2 Tslot plates and 2 square nuts for free. I had to cover the shipping cost myself and that would be 15 pounds.

For 16 pounds I bought a set of 1/4 20 BSW Whitworth taps and made my own replacement square nut.

These are the ones I would recommend or some similar.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eyoyo-Moni...p;ie=UTF8&qid=1525011318&sr=8-15

From the pictures you can see that there should be metal threads in the Vesa holes and it looks like it is possible to use the USB-C connector.

I hope this is usefull.
Posted By: Paradaz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/18 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by DanTDBV
After a long hiatus ending with a total systems reformat and before reinstalling the controllers.................


You've either flipped your image left/right, or you're one of those weird alien cack-handed people! wink
Posted By: DanTDBV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/29/18 05:18 PM

Hey! Who are you calling wrong handed! 50cal Weird and alien, that is okay. biggrin

No Flipping, I'm a lefthander and proud of it.
Posted By: DanTDBV

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/01/18 08:25 PM

Here is a picture of my screens with MFD's.

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Posted By: Passion_killer87

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/21/18 06:08 PM

Hi

Here are a few pics of a yoke made recently. It's based loosely on a Lanc yoke. I've used hall sensors for the x and y, motorcycle handlebar kill switches as triggers and it's all wired into a bodnar board. It's my first time using hall sensors and I'm really impressed with them and how accurate they seem to be over potentiometers.

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Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/21/18 07:23 PM

Nice, rugged looking build! Might be a good idea to put something in the picture to help give us a sense of scale! smile
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/21/18 08:52 PM

I made an improvement to my pit. I recessed the Throttle and Joystick. I think they look much better especially since you can't see the wires any longer.

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Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/21/18 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by RalphROVpilot
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RalphROVpilot-That looks outstanding and very realistic! Kudos!
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/21/18 09:01 PM

Nice!! How did you cut out the circle for they joystick? And what's that black ring you've used? Nothing similar for the throttle? My next project just may be a recessed HOTAS setup! smile
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/21/18 11:08 PM

Ice- Thanks.I used a jigsaw and a steady hand after tracing the base of the stick. The black ring is rubber window molding. The throttle was cut much closer so I didn't need anything to fill any gaps.
Posted By: - Ice

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/23/18 07:18 PM

Thanks for that info!!
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/24/18 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by - Ice
Thanks for that info!!

Anytime buddy!
Posted By: 602RAF_Puff

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/15/18 04:13 PM

Quite happy how it turned out, was fun connecting and testing all the controls. Not exact but Im a happy man smile

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Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/16/18 06:55 PM

That is a fantastic looking simpit, 602RAF! You have every reason to be proud of this. Excellent work!
Salute!
Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/18 03:03 PM

Wow 602, you are insane! But in a good way wink
Posted By: 602RAF_Puff

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/18/18 03:57 PM

Many thanks folks smile
Posted By: chrisdev01

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/23/18 08:25 PM

Not a SimPit yet, just mocking things up at my desk to test and integrate new systems for inclusion in my Cessna 310R build:


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Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/27/18 12:01 AM

nice spit pit there 602.....

killer87, hows the yoke getting on?
Posted By: Brigstock

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/28/18 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by 602RAF_Puff
Quite happy how it turned out, was fun connecting and testing all the controls. Not exact but Im a happy man smile

Wow, Puff, that is brilliant mate. Well done!
Posted By: Stache

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/16/18 12:53 AM

My sim pit - Just finished painting.

Three years and many, many revisions later.

Still need to add custom electronics.

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Posted By: Henk

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/17/18 06:40 PM

Wow, impressive!
Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 09/20/18 05:36 PM

Stache, that is quite impressive. Very good job!
Posted By: specialksl

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/25/18 08:07 PM

Nice!
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 10/26/18 05:33 AM

Outstanding!
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/23/18 04:23 PM

Central Pedestal Display working
Shaky video I know, will make a better one soon


CPD includes:
Moving map
Fuel status
Primary Flight Instruments
NAV

Posted By: 453Raafspitty

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/25/18 11:06 PM

Nice pit.Video is cool smile
Posted By: DudleyAz

Re: Please show off your pit. - 11/26/18 05:36 AM

Beautiful pit! Excellent work on getting all the displays and gauges working. What type of display do you have running behind the steam gauges on the right side of the pit?
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/04/18 09:22 PM

Those steam gauges are stepper driven needle gauges
Posted By: 531 Ghost

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/24/18 10:52 AM

Added a 32" UHD Monitor. Next up is the following:

Ryzen 7 2700X
Corsair 115i pro rgb
4x RGB 140mm fans
1x 120mm fan
AM4 X470 motherboard
32GB DDR4 3200 Ryzen CERT ram (4x 8GB)
EVGA RTX 2070 XC Ultra 8GB
EVGA SuperNova 750w Gold - fully modular
Windows 10 Pro 64bit
Samsung 970 EVO 500GB SSD - M.2 PCIe NVME
1TB 2.5" SSD
3TB Hard Drive
PCIe USB 2.0 card (3x USB 2.0 ports)

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Posted By: F4UDash4

Re: Please show off your pit. - 12/24/18 02:42 PM

Nice!!
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 02/19/19 01:05 PM

putting my sim back together, this time in a caravan, so that 1) if we move I don't have to disassemble it again and 2)I can take it to shows....

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Posted By: Subsonic

Re: Please show off your pit. - 05/16/19 10:34 PM

Just a straight up Akers Barnes....
Pit 1.0
but Jedi mod in the works...


Sub
Posted By: 50sqnwopag

Re: Please show off your pit. - 07/21/19 10:01 PM

some newer pics, new throttle tops and more screens

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Posted By: Star Fly

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/24/19 10:40 PM

Hey Everybody,

I just recently finished building my first gaming PC and combat flight sim setup. I also got a little creative and built a fighter pilot type helmet that is fully compatible with trackir5 pro clip and aviation type headsets (for comfort). Check out my attached pics below transformer

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Posted By: AndyB

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/25/19 07:20 PM

Nice looking pit. Personally, think the lightup PC would be a bit distracting, but each to their own.

Helmet is way cool ! Definately a "borg" look to it ..... I took the easy option and got a chinese pilot helmet from eBay and painted it.

Cheers,

Andy
Posted By: Star Fly

Re: Please show off your pit. - 08/26/19 04:40 PM

Thanks Andy. I usually leave the lights mostly white on the PC and slightly dimmed during gameplay. Works great with the tint in the Google's. Also have a pair of the mirror spherical Google's that works just as good with no IR interference with trackir5. I was indeed going for a futuristic cyborg f-35 type look once I started to assemble the pieces. So far so good👍🏽
Posted By: Vintage Joystick

Homebuilt full size flightsim joystick - 03/02/20 09:45 PM

I just wanted to share my design of a full size aircraft joystick based around the IL2 Sturmovik WWII fighter. It is mainly built from steel and aluminium, and uses a potentiometer on each axis connected to the excellent Leo Bodnar control board. I have added motorcycle steering dampers to each axis which gives the stick a more realistic feel, and am currently looking at building other designs, especially early aircraft types, e.g. WWI / WWII . Feel free to get in touch and ask any questions... Thanks a lot!




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Posted By: Vintage Joystick

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/04/20 12:43 PM

I have just finished this full size flightsim joystick, made from steel and brass, loosely based around the Royal Aircraft Factory SE5 stick (first flight around 1917). The brass paddles connect to microswitches which are wired to a Leo Bodnar control board I use for the main joystick control. Please feel free to get in touch with any questions...

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Posted By: MudPuppy

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/05/20 01:04 PM

Excellent work on those two joysticks. I've always liked the simple design of the Il-2 control column/handle and this is a good approximation of that.

Thanks for sharing the pics.
Derek
Posted By: Vintage Joystick

Re: Please show off your pit. - 03/12/20 12:49 PM

Thanks very much indeed. Also, I have just uploaded a quick video of the stick in action...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbDTZF8F4Tc
Posted By: RalphROVpilot

Re: Please show off your pit. - 04/15/20 10:57 AM

Small sniped of some system testing

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Posted By: Spitfire_Histories

Re: Please show off your pit. - 06/04/20 11:01 AM

Hi there, just thought i'd share with you my mobile Spitfire MkIX simpit in the building phase.
This simpit has a particular feature where the rear of the cockpit with the pilot seat slides backwards for ease of access. I plan to take this to airshows so that visitors can experience what it was like to fly a Spitfire. I have not added the skin yet as the cockpit is quite small and it is easier to fit the parts and wiring without the skin. All the controls are mostly 3D printed having been re-designed from original drawings to fit modern electronic components without altering their exterior aspect or size. From the left you can see the rudder and elevator trim wheels, these are geared to reproduce the revolutions required, three replica 5C/543 switches for fuel pump, pitot heat and radiator. Then comes the throttle quadrant with fuel cut-off, throttle, airscrew control and friction levers. These all work, the throttle grip is fitted with a bomb release button, the throttle gate has an adjustable max take-off stop. The undercarriage warning horn switch is a dummy for the time being. Above the throttle quadrant is the VHF remote controller unit. This has seven pushbuttons and momentary LED lightning which users can program for either real radio channels and PTT or which can be affected to other functions. This unit also houses an Arduino PCB. The instrument panel has a cut out so that the pilot can see a video screen - I am using track IR for this pit as not everyone is comfortable with VR. I have built a flaps operating lever but this is not fitted in this cockpit as with the cut out it cannot fitted in its correct position. The panel shows dummy gauge facings and a removable lower part of the blind flying panel, as this is where a small keyboard is suspended when flying. Below this are two dummy cockpit lighting knobs and two working booster and starter pushbuttons, without covers for the moment. Just below is a working main fuel cock lever and a dummy Ki-Gass primer pump. I intend to make this into a working version. To the right is a fold away mouse pad. The control column is set at the correct height and rest angle. It has a spring loaded strut near it's base which holds it in neutral position and which controls forward and aft movement limitations. The column moves forward 11° and aft 14,3° to mimic the real thing. The strut looks a bit like the elevator control rod on the real aircraft. The spade grip has a working spring loaded brakes lever and a paddle type firing button allowing either or, or both types of guns to be fired. It also has a safety catch which is both mechanical and electronic. The roll potentiometer is at the base of the column controlled by a strap (replacing and oiled chain) fixed on a "cog" at the top of the column and a pulley at the base. This is mostly hidden by the chain guard made of card with 3D printed mounting brackets. On the right cockpit side is the working chassis control unit which has its locking gates and status window. At the moment this window shows UP or DOWN when the gear lever is in the upper or lower gates. This is being modified to show IDLE at all times except when the lever is either travelling UPwards or DOWNwards as in the real aircraft. Below this is the auxiliary fuel tank cock and jettison handle. The system is designed such that the jettison handle is locked except when the cock lever is in the fully forward OFF position. I have also made a wobble fuel pressure pump but this can only be mounted when the right hand skin panelling is fitted.
I intend to build a second more complete cockpit for VR, where all clickable controls can be operated in the cockpit without the use of a keypad or mouse. VoiceAttack software is great for own use, but for public use I'll need to ensure that all controls required for flying are working in the cockpit.
All this started off as a personal project, but having designed the parts it was a pretty simple step to make them available to sim pilots. I therefore created a desk mounted left hand cockpit kit with trims, throttle quadrant and RCU and a free standing floor mounted control column kit. I am currently working on a right hand cockpit kit with chassis unit, auxiliary fuel tank controls and the wobble pump. These kits are all wired up to their own Arduino game controllers and are pretty much plug'n'play. I provide a manual to help with tuning and assignments in three most popular combat flight simulators. I only build to order as this is a one-man garage business. For more information visit www.spitfirehistories.com


Description: Spitfire MkIX simpit by Spitfire Histories
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