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Combat Reports - AAR

Posted By: Polovski

Combat Reports - AAR - 09/09/18 08:35 PM

Hi Guys,

Made this sticky from an idea by Carrick58

Please post any good combat reports here.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/11/18 01:55 AM

I had an Idea ? Wow Pol knock me over with a feather.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/11/18 01:57 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Tangmere, AF.

11 July 1940.

0900: 2 Section had the duty for Convoy Patrol. No e/a sighted, spent 20 mins circling Convoy Market in the Channel



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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/11/18 03:02 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 Section
Yellow 3.
Tangmere, AF.

14 Jul 1940.

Yellow section was posted to Brighton ( a forward field to try and catch Convoy Raiders and Weather Patrol a/c over Brighton A.O.

We just got the Petrol Browsers when Section leader Colin said go with what ya got. I had 45 % P.O Rhys had 49 % ) Ops reported a Weather or Recon machine at Angels 10 over head. We Tallyhoed the e/a ( a 110 or 215 ) in a clear shy . I made a slight dive and fired , I missed 2 long bursts but noting then shot pass to come around again. However, P/O Rhys got the brute with a six o clock shot. I did see 1 parachute come out of the stricken machine.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/11/18 04:37 AM

Great shots, carrick! Good hunting!
Posted By: Nowi

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/11/18 12:52 PM

Tally Ho!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/11/18 01:40 PM

Nice shots and reports Gents. Keep them coming.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/11/18 09:48 PM

Pilot Officer Mark Fairbanks
RAF43
Tangmere Airfield
Aug. 23, 1940

We were having tea at 11h37 when the scramble alert blared. We have 3 minuets to be airborne. B flight was airborne in less than that. A bit unexpected as it was heavy cloud and raining so we thought Jerry might give us a day off. We were vectored to Poling, where one of our radar chains sit. Breaking out of the soup at 12,000’ we climbed to 13,000’. Harris called “enemy spotted”. I followed even though I had not seen them yet. “12 o’clock low” was his next signal before he dove.

As soon as I pushed on the stick I could see them in the clouds. Harris made the first pass and dove through them. I dove on the trailing Dornier and let go 3 long long burst on the starboard engine before pulling up and raking it across the cockpit. Looking back I saw 2 chutes open from the falling machine. Rolling over I came in on another using the same tactic with the same result as the Dornier went into the clouds in a spin.

Knowing I was low on ammunition I dove out north toward the coast. The weather had become worse if I thought it was possible so descended by instruments until good old terra firma came into sight at 2000’. Getting my bearings I headed back to Tangmere. With 4 confirmed victories already this would make me an ace! I hummed along in my Hurricane right proud of myself. Coming out of the soup a few miles from Tangmere I scanned the skies around me and saw nothing. Throttle back a bit, circle the field once, landing gear down, lower flaps, looking forward to finishing that tea.
Tracers flash by my canopy! I break easy right slamming the throttle forward, raising gear and flaps at the same time. The Hurricane wallowed a bit but kept air between me and the earth. Looking around I saw the 109 streaking for home after missing a sitting duck!

I landed in a cold sweat. Only 5 of B flight made it back ok. Two had been hit and were seen to have bailed out. They were picked up and returned that afternoon though Harris was wounded. He was able two confirm my 2 claims.

I am now an Ace! More important, still alive
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/12/18 12:29 AM

Good Hunting, Guys !

Well done MFair
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/12/18 02:05 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Tangmere, AF.


Aug 23, 1940.

Yellow section left Brighton and did a Standing Patrol over Southampton then back to Tangmere. Popped over to 43 Sqn dispersal for a visit with P/O Fairbanks. ( Hes one of the MFair Fairbanks ) The Operation people said he was up on a Flap, I did notice that their Sqn had their own car ( with a full tank of fuel ) and some Horses out in the pasture pass the Hangers. I say these Wealthy flyers bring all the little things with them to war

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Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/12/18 01:26 PM

Carrick, even with a war on a man has to keep up appearances!
Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/12/18 04:48 PM

Great report MFair a hairy escape there wink
Keep them coming guys .
Posted By: Dark_Canuck

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/12/18 08:42 PM

P/O Albert Sitwell
43 Sqn Tangemere
23 July 1940

It has been a hectic two weeks since I arrived at the Swn. I've flown three missions: the first was a quiet patrol over pur convoys, the second involved a crash on takeoff that put me in the hospital for 13 days and then at 1130 this morning, after returning from hospital, we had a Yellow Flight Scramble to intercept a Sqn of bombers over the channel.

Leader spotted 6 JU 88s making a pass at our shipping. We kept out heads on a seivel for the escorts, but seeing none, we dove in for a turkey shoot. Geoffrey (Yellow Flight Leader) got 2, my wingman Luke Corwin and I shared one and I added another myself. It was exhilarating, but I did feel my stomach turn a bit when I did not see any chutes from my kill.

If things keep on like this, Jerry doesnt stand a chance.
Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/12/18 09:35 PM

11 Group July 1940, Somewhere East of Hawkinge.

I was taking a Hurri up for testing (QMB). The briefing led me to expect 2 x Bf-109's about 2 miles fro my position. My shock was palpable when I discovered said Hostile AIrcraft to be at a mere 400 yds from me approaching head on. Fortunately, between some choice remarks of a blashphemous nature and some button pinching, I managed to crank my Hurri around in a right hander that cut inside their angle and denied them a chance to perforate me before I'd begun the fight in earnest. Hauling her around after them I was surprised to find nothing but large patches of empty blue sky where I expected to find Messerschmitt. For some reason one of them seemed to have no interest in me and left me for his wingman. We fenced about the sky for a bit, he came at me from various angles and I hauled my kite inside his angle, denying him the shot and letting him have a squirt from my .303 paint strippers as he whizzed by. Little puffs of aluminium and paint indicated that I was finding my mark and after a few rounds like this he decided that sightseeing over England wasn't really his thing and he lit out back to France.

So I found myself alone and made a steep descent towards Hawkinge, keeping a weather eye out for any further Teutonic interference. Hawkinge appeared ahead and, after restarting my engine because I'd overcooled it (or let it idle too low, not sure), I entered the pattern. For some reason my flaps refused to extend, fortunately my undercarriage was more cooperative and I landed long on the field, sliding to a screeching, sideways halt mere yards from the perimeter fence. I dare say a tyre rolled off the rim as taxiing was no longer possible. With great alarum an odd juxtaposition of vehicles came clamouring up to my Hurri, from them stepping men weilding an unusual array of axes, hoses and stretchers. I slid back the hood, lit up a cigarette and politely informed them that their services would not be required.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/12/18 10:59 PM

Nice reports DC and Ace!

Pilot Officer Mark Fairbanks,
August 24, 1940

One coastal patrol today. A and B flights. Heavy cloud cover. Saw a few 110's but they high tailed it back over the Channel.

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August 26,
Back up again with A and B flights. At 13,000' near Ford airfield we ran smack into a gaggle of 110's! I pulled up and rolled over behind one chasing a member of "A" flight. He pulled up and I hit him square with a long burst. The 110 nosed over and I observed 2 chutes exit the doomed machine

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I started circling with radio chatter buzzing in my ears. I could not see anyone around and then noticed flak low near Ford airfield. I nosed down in a screaming dive and saw another 110 at low altitude heading home. I came in behind him and gave him two long bursts. Pieces flew off the 110 as I pulled up over him in a steep climb. I spotted him to the west climbing and gave chase. Before I could get back on him two chutes appeared and the 110 rolled over and went down.

Not seeing any other activity I heard Harris say he was headed home so I did the same. Everyone came in safe. Winfrey and Ross both claimed one and I put my claim in for two. It has been a good day.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/13/18 03:43 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Tangmere, AF.

Aug 24, 1940.

Morning:

Sqn scramble test. The Station Commander said we were taking too long. We need to get it down to 2 mins.

Afternoon got a belly full of English Channel. Yellow section had the duty to see if any more Jerries showed up by a Convoy. Spotted 1 e/a and as we went into line astern for the attack, my motor sputtered and died. As I lost height, I did 3 restarts, but no luck. With a dead battery and starting to drop like a rock, I corkscrewed down finding Fishing boats. Canopy back and locked, Chute straps tight, seat belts off I flipped over and fell out. I lost my flight boots when the shock of the chute opened. and landed 100 yards from a small boat.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/13/18 10:02 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Aug 27, 1940.

II Section Scramble re in force Escort over Convoy Agent. Once airborne Top Hat directed us to South East of Thorny Island with Bandits 18 +, Angels 20, Buster. The flight of 6 Hurricanes were chomping at the bit. as we neared the flight leader spotted a lone Bomber and said line astern attack. I was #2 and saw the 1lt, Nail the e/a. two chutes came out. Then someone yelled Yellow Nosed Bandits coming down Break and we all broke. I saw a passing 109 ( 1 of many ) and shot at it no hits ( a lot behind it according to the tracers ) Then he dove away. I was alone , couldnt fine anyone , and shook up so called it a day. The Sqn lost 2 a/c. claims 3 e/a ? I only saw the Bomber.

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Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/13/18 10:45 PM

Carrick, nice shots of the Hurricane spilling its spent brass! Good one. If I may, while “chomping “ at the bit is commonly used the correct term is “champing” at the bit. Tally Ho and all that.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/14/18 01:49 AM

Went out for an intercept over the channel and ran into a flight of He - 111. Our flight leader dove away to attack some planes below us unseen by me, but I pressed on for the bombers, who were now beating a retreat away from us south east-ward. I closed on the first and despite taking some hits, was able to bring him down with some shots on his right engine. I then switched to his wingman but started taking some fire, some of which seemed to be coming from behind me. I broke off and repositioned, sending him down with chutes popping out. Pleased with my luck, I bugged out back for base only to find that my gear wasn't working. I tried to lower it manually, but only one wheel would lock down. (Maybe I was doing it wrong, I admit I wasn't paying close attention that day in flight school.) Not trusting my ability to land on one wheel, I took her up and bailed out on the coast. Shaken-but-not-stirred up, I waited to be picked up and went back to base to submit my claims. Here's the gun camera footage:


Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/14/18 02:58 AM

MFair: I bow to ur wisdom in word smithing. Rawlings: Good Vid
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/14/18 03:03 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF


In the mess that evening , we were treated to the Section leaders Gun Camera film. Since the Sqn Commander and both flight leaders are the only ones with gun cameras, It was a short affair.

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Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/14/18 11:06 AM

Nice video Rick. Congratulations on the kills. Carrick, don’t trust my word smithing too much. We have our own brand of English in Mississippi!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/14/18 12:31 PM

Boy, somebody's up early, MFair! Hope you are staying well and clear of anything Florence throws your way!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/14/18 03:52 PM

Thanks Rick. I’m a little slow since retiring. I was thinking “who the heck is Florence?” Yep, we are clear but Hurricane season does not end until October so wait and watch. Prayers for the folks in her path. Katrina is still fresh on my mind.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/14/18 10:55 PM

Pilot Officer Mark Fairbanks
43 Squadron
Sept. 2, 1940

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Scramble before breakfast. We were off to our Hurricanes and in the air in a little over 2 minuets headed to the south of London.

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Approaching the patrol area Harris called out that the enemy was spotted. I followed him in a curving dive and soon spotted the flight of enemy bombers. We dove in behind the 5 Heinkel's and I could only get off 2 bursts before pulling up. As I leveled out and looked about to make another pass I was gobsmacked to see a 110 off my wing!

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I pulled up and rolled over beind the 110 and with a few long bursts had it smoking before it turned over and went down.

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I found myself alone with Harris coming over the radio saying he was headed home. I did the same. Approaching our base at 4000' I ran smack into 4 110's. They must have been heading home because only one made a half hearted attempt at combat and since I was low on ammo I bid him good by.

Everyone returned safe and we had claimed seven enemy aircraft total. We had no more than sat down for tea when the siren blared again. Off to the east of London on another scramble. We arrived over the patrol area and had beat the enemy there so we were waiting for them. JU88's.
Harris and I both made a pass at the flight. I scored multiple hits on one as I pulled up. I heard the ping of hits as I rolled over for another pass. Coming in again the 88 caught on fire and went down.

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Leveling off my engine sputtered and then died. In all the excitement I did not realize my fuel tank was hit. Lucky for me a field was below and after cranking down the landing gear manually I made a decent dead stick landing.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/14/18 11:54 PM

29 missions?!? Man, retirement has been good to someone! I've got like... four!!!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/15/18 03:24 AM

MFair: No problem U'all. My family is in VA and North Carolina (Extended ) There are times on the phone where the accent is so thick that I have to stop and think. So far everyone is fine. Lots of service outage and Landscape damage, but insurance should cover it. Knock on Wood.

Mr. Rawlings: I must be doing something wrong. I am Retired, but only have been able to play 6 or 7 times.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/15/18 04:02 AM

Nigel Notting
P/O , RAF
Temp Duty
Yellow Leader
245 Sqn
Hawkinge AF


Aug 29, 1940.

Off with 2 Section local area orientation and getting used to each other.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/16/18 03:44 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Posted back to 145th. Nice to be back,but they stuck me with an a/c from Repair that came from 303 Sqn. Oh well, Flew Convoy Patrol. Section leader yelled Stuka's low and right. Everyone help yourself. Down the six of us went, my a/c speed went pass 300 MPH. I fire 2 bursts Hits ? then I shot pass. Pulling hard back on the stick , I barely missed the water. Zooming back up, the sky was empty. The Section lost 1 Hurricane and claimed 3 e/a I saw one e/a go down but it had 2 engines not one like the Stuka's ? Escort Higher Up ?

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Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/16/18 06:58 AM

Plt Off "Ace" Pilto
17Sqn, Debden
July 1940

Took my first flight in earnest today. A quick stroll down to Rye, near Hastings, to supervise the activities of the boffin squad with their monstrous iron latticeworks that they call Chain Home. Why they call it that I have no idea, we all joke that it probably does nothing except attract lightning strikes and provide the local seagulls with a comfortable nesting place. No sign of Jerry, just a leisurely cruise around the coast at 21,000 ft with A flight tagging along a few miles behind. At one point I glimpsed something behind us and requested permission to detach from the formation to weave behind so that I could keep whatever it was in sight but I soon lost visual contact and rejoined the formation after a few minutes of essing along behind everyone else.

Landing was nothing special, a big bounce because I came in too fast but no close encounters with the fence or stalled engines this time.

Also, I've earned the moniker of "Ace". Not for my prowess in the air but at the bar. The English chaps were somewhat aghast when I showed them how one could ingest five pints in the space of three minutes. Horrible tepid muck they drink here, I wish I'd thought to bring a Coolgardie safe with me.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/16/18 01:53 PM


July 17th Scramble to the coast:

Barely got bread to butter this morning when we were off on a radar contact. Wheels up before seven and to the contact point fifteen minutes later. Ran into a flight of 111's at 14,000 feet taking some vertical pot-shots at our shipping and I winged in after the third one and got him with some none-too-accurate fire. As we were circling around the area, we were attacked by either the recalcitrant escorts or another flight of 109's. For some reason, I couldn't tell the Huns from me mums and one got behind me and got a few shots into me, chipping the paint on both craft and pilot. Despite a stinging pain in arm and leg, I was able to get clear thanks to the intercedence of others in my flight, but I had to bail out a few miles off of shore after I had used up all the petrol. After a week in the hospital, I am able to write this report and should be back in the "game" in a few more days...
Here's the surprisingly clear and in color and cockpit-centric gun camera footage:


Seriously, I can't tell the difference between the hurris and BF's until quite close. Can't wait for those big elliptical wings to show up!
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/16/18 03:44 PM

Good stuff!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/16/18 03:58 PM

I say Old man, Ur vid woke up more then my Cup of Coffee. this morning. Well Done
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/16/18 05:03 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Aug 2, 1940.


Morning flight over An Army camp Local area. No Contact

2 Section Re enforce Convoy Patrol during the afternoon. Reached the convoy after the e/a hit it. Only 109's high up looking for fodder to fatten their scores. Dis engaged and RTB. As the Sqn Commander said: Leave the flaming fighters , its the bloody bombers we want.

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Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/16/18 09:30 PM

Rick, be sure to pass along your reconnaissance data regarding the nurse situation. I have a feeling that you are the first of many...
Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/16/18 10:40 PM

Nice video Rick. Close call there mate.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/17/18 06:16 PM

mmmmmmmmmmmmm, Nurses !
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/17/18 06:20 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Aug 4, 1940.

Off on a lark today flew Sector Patrol over Beachy Head with Yellow section then Home and Tea. 1st Section had Convoy Patrol. no contact.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/18/18 12:13 PM

Here Bilbo's hand ended and Frodo had written

THE DOWNFALL
OF
OLIVER LIST
AND THE RISE OF
HARRY SMIRES




Only thing to add is that so far, the new guy isn't flying any smarter than the old one!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/18/18 04:49 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF


Aug 5,1940.

I say, Jolly good show over Convoy Bounty. It was a Sqn show with Red and Blue sections keeping the Fighters off our backs as 2 Section dove on Stukas lining up on the Ships below. I gave off long bursts at a bomber and got hits but as I closed I ran out of ammo. ( I fired too far out and only got hits as I ran out of 303s ). The green painted Stuka Hugged the Ocean and skimmed towards France. I stayed low and RTB. Score 3 JU 87's Destroyed + 1 Damaged ( mine ) The Sgn Loss 1 Hurricane to Fighters + 2 damaged.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/19/18 02:48 AM

145th Sqn
Westhampett, AF


Late in the day.

Wicket, Thats the Wing Commander's Staff a/c here on a surprise inspection.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/19/18 04:25 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

1 Damaged


Aug 8, 1940

2 Section was over Convoy Botney Bay circling when we got jumped. The 1st to go down was the Weaver machine ( black smoke off to the rear left ) then we scattered. The enemy did a good job that day. They hit us high and hit the convoy low, Someone said Stukas but all I saw was 109s behind and one overshot and dove away from me. ( 3 Yellow Nosed a/c ) I saw 2 ships get blasted by bombs as I ran down low.. Then it was over so RTB. Score: 2 Hurricanes destroyed ( 2 Missing ) 1 109 claimed.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/20/18 02:11 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF


Aug 8, 1949.

Afternoon : The bell in the Ops shack was ringing someone yelled its a Sqn Scramble. We ran to get up all 12 Hurri's , but I was thinking He must be Crackers. As we lifted off, the Sqn C.O. was talking on the RT and Top Hat said where to Head to Southamptom Angles 12, Buster 20 + Very soon came Tally Ho. Off to the right above and a few below Yellow Nosed Bandits . I dove and was lining up on a 109 when another unseen fighter put 9 hits in my kite Between me and the Tail section. ( later my Flt Lt would say I was lucky. If the e/a would used his cannon instead of MG's my Tail would have come off. ) Twisting I got out of the way and saw a 109 above. I pulled up and fired , maybe a few hits ? , then Stalled. I barely pulled up above the water. RTB Score: We lost another Hurricane Pilot KIA.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/20/18 04:21 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

1 Damaged
15 Aug 1940.

The weather cleared and Back to Ops.

0950 hrs Sqn Patrol Shipping Lanes. No Joy

1330 hrs: 2 Section Scramble vectored to Thorny Island then was bounced by 2 Engine Fast Bombers ? Lost 2 Hurri's for zero I got off a Squirt as one began his dive for France.

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Posted By: Dark_Canuck

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/21/18 12:31 AM

P/O Albert Sitwell
43 Sqn
31 July 1940

After many days of empty skies, we were called in to handle an incoming raid, expected Bombers 5+ with a small escort. We made contact over the channel and moved to engage. My longtime wingman Luke Corwin broke off for home almost immediately, whether from engine failure or damage I do not know.

He looked to have a clear shot home so I closed quickly on my target, a JU 88, and quickly dispatched him. Two Jerries jumped for a swim before the plane smashed into the water. Seeing the other bombers under threat from the other Hurricanes, I moved to try to catch up to Luke and ensure he made it back safe.

To my horror, when I closed the distance I found him being engaged by four BF110s. I immediately pulled the plug, slammed the throttle forward and dove down amongst the Jerries, hoping to distract them long enough for Luke to escape. The pack scattered as I flashed passed, two disengaging and heading for home. Unfortunately, one managed to stay on Lukes tail and I watched helplessly as his Hurricane caught fire and pitched downward toward the Channel. I couldn't see if there was a chute, but I hastily engaged the 110.who dispatched Luke. After a protracted fight, I seperated him from his port wing and watched with satisfaction as the burning hulk disappeared below the waves with its full crew abord.

Jacob Fry also did not return from the mission. No-one saw him go down, so we hold out hope for his return.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/21/18 01:48 AM

Good Read, Thanks Dark Canuck.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/21/18 02:15 AM

Westhampett, Mess.


1800 hrs 15 Aug 1940.

My Flight mates and I went over to the Savoy to see the New Show. The Sqn Leader been chasing the lead dancer by standing by the Stag Door. I say, Smashing !

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/21/18 12:40 PM

carrick, you are on fire, sir! (Not literally, climb back in that cockpit!) salute
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/21/18 04:20 PM

LOL
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/21/18 04:32 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

2 Damaged
1 confirmed Kill.

17 Aug 1940.

On Patrol with 2 Section near Burnemouth. Spotted and attacked some e/a. I got mixed in with a flight of Heinkills. Closed to 200 yds and pushed the trigger. My 303's got strikes all over the bomber then smoke and fire out of the Port motor. Fired another burst, more smoke then the e/a rolled over and went into a spin. No Chutes were seen. I couldnt watch more , as 109s were swarming about. I did get a bit of one 109 as my ammo ran out. I did a split S and dove for home. The Sqn Claimed 6 e/a destroyed for 3 losses . 2 pilots bailed out and returned that afternoon.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/22/18 06:53 PM

Squadmate calls for help...race to squadmate to clear his tail...other squadmate swoops in and steals kill...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/23/18 02:15 AM

Wingmen are all the same. U cant give a break or they take the Meat off the Plate.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/23/18 02:26 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

2 Damaged
1 confirmed Kill.


19 Aug 1940.

On patrol with 6 a/c near Southhampton. Vectored to intercept 18+ Bandits at 15000 ft over the channel. The e/a turned into 5 Ju88 types + a Lot of ME 110s as escorts. My mates got 2 Bombers and I got a squirt at one the it was a free for all with the 110s. I almost got the chop when one zoomed behind me ( took 8 MG rds , glad the rest missed ) Broke to port and corked screwed down to 3000 ft and went home. Sgn Claimed 3 Destroyed. I saw a bomber go down 2 chutes came out. We lost a Hurri. The Sqn is only at Haft strength Replacements are due in.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/23/18 05:22 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

2 Damaged
1 confirmed Kill.


20 Aug 1940.

Bagged a Do 17 today. Our 6 a/c section was off Brighton. Chased 2 Bombers over the channel. Flt Denton got his then I closed firing from 200 yds and closed e/a emitted smoke and fire the rolled over and down. I didnt see any chutes. Spotted falk off to the right and saw 6 bombers,but before we could attack Me 110s were on us I shot at one then got lost in the clouds. Claims 3 e/a destroyed , 2 bombers + 1 Me 110, Lost 1 Hurricane. 145 Sqn is down to 5 survivors.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/23/18 06:17 PM

Nice catch there, with the explosion, carrick!

I think this video is pretty neat. We are scrambled in on some bombers, who start their dives just as we attack. It was pretty awesome watching everybody perform their roles. I got one bomber down and then the escorts attacked! Despite my best efforts, I managed to get my engine shot out, after previously having taken some control surface damage. (And to be fair, I was distracted by a really cool visual I had never seen before, of what I think was a big oil slick from a sunken ship. I then tried to make my way back towards the convoy before ditching. Fortunately, I was picked up and back to the squadron by the next day! (I dunno, the helicoptered me out, I guess...)

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/24/18 02:44 AM

Walrus Sea plane probably with Channel Rescue Nice vid

https://youtu.be/4-2UAXblTUE
Posted By: MFair

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/24/18 01:51 PM

Nice stories and videos Gents! Keep them coming.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/24/18 03:46 PM

Howdy, MFair where ya been ?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/25/18 01:17 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

2 Damaged
2 confirmed Kills.



Aug 22, 1940.

The Sqn eader let us his Lorrie to see the show at the Ritz in London. Wizard !

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/25/18 04:25 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

2 Damaged
2 confirmed Kills.


Aug 23-24 1940.

Re-placements coming in had enough down time to get in 2 hops with the Newbies. One had 12 hrs on a Hurri the others less. We did a hop over Brighton ( 23rd ) then a Circuit over Southhamptom. 0n the 24th.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/25/18 06:51 PM

carrick, how many flights does Nigel have? You're having quite a run...I can't seem to make it over 10 myself...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/26/18 03:25 PM

16 sorties so far. However, Hes been on the short end of the stick a few times and often not hitting anything. P.S. I do make him AVOID the Fighters. Mostly Roll over and dive or Split " S ". I am having a lot of fun with this game.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/26/18 03:39 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

2 Damaged
2 confirmed Kills.

Sep 26, 1940.

I say, had a party over the channel this morning. The section was vectored to Bandits off Southhampton. Turned out to be fighters. We had 2 109s high and to port in the rear and 2 below going left to right. It was follow the leader and I dove after my section leader to keep his tail clear. The 2 Bandits above dove on us in turn. A regular Traven punch up. I never got in close enough for good shooting just Long Range hope to hit shots. My mates got 2 of the Yellow Nosed boys, but we lost one Hurri who was flying in formation as the Weaver.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/26/18 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by carrick58
16 sorties so far. However, Hes been on the short end of the stick a few times and often not hitting anything. P.S. I do make him AVOID the Fighters. Mostly Roll over and dive or Split " S ". I am having a lot of fun with this game.

Well, that must be the secret! I am a bit behind in the video posting, I have another one where I definitely do NOT avoid the fighters! Good thing character creation is so easy!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/26/18 11:41 PM

Lol, I know . If it wasnt for character creation, I wouldnt be able to play long.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/27/18 04:43 AM

So I thought I cleared him...they should really call this game WWII: Collision Simulator for me. The plus side is I got to try out the 109, which is a lot more finicky and for some reason has a lot of gauges not in English. The Prop Pitch gauge looks like a clock, so I thought for a minute there that I had actually activated the Flux Capacitor and gone back in time...

Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/27/18 09:52 AM

Old "Ace" Pilto is grounded still grounded due to his namesake having a new job. Long weekend coming up though so the possibilities of him dusting off the flying (and writing/maybe video making) cap are increasing.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/27/18 07:18 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

2 Destroyed
2 damaged
1 probable


Aug 27, 1940.

Blimey, They Bombed Eastbourne. 2 Section + 2 Top cover a/c was on Patrol and caught a flight of 5 He 111s leaving the area. My wing-mates got 2 that I saw along with 2 parachutes swinging down. They Claimed 3 Bombers. As tail end Charlie , I made sure no fighters were about then closed on a bomber Making firing passes I got hits but he would not go down then he was diving for France. My kite was behaving badly, The e/a gunners had scored 7 hits in my port wing and another 4 in my tail so called it a day. Claimed a probable.

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Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/27/18 08:40 PM

Great reports guys..
@Rick loving your vids,top quality mate
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/27/18 10:45 PM

Thanks! I think they really work as a "What Not To Do" primer!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/28/18 04:52 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

2 Destroyed
2 damaged
1 probable


Aug 28, 1940.

Yellow Flight ( 3 a/c ) Patrolled over Eastleigh. No contact. Spent the rest of the day helping with the work on my Kite and playing Crickett.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/29/18 12:42 AM

Connor O'Connor
32 Squadron Biggin Hill

Sorties #2 &3

Second flight was a scramble over the channel where we ran into a flight of 109's. I was trying to climb with them when one dove on me and shredded my right wing with cannon fire. I looked at the damage model, remarking to myself on the detail, before heading for home and bailing out along the coast.
My next sortie was tangling with a wily and squirrelly 110, whom I finally shot the engine out of and watched from a safeish distance as he made his way down to the cold waters of the channel, where I had been just a sortie before.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/29/18 04:10 AM

Connor O'Connor
32 Squadron Biggin Hill

Sortie #4
Made what I finally think are some reasonably nice diving attacks. Got two out of formation, but lost them in the clouds, no confirmation...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/30/18 03:10 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Aug 29, 1940

3 Destroyed
3 damaged
1 probable


Our 5 a/c Sqn obited Esher ( South London ) at Angels 15. When Control vector us 20+ Bandits as Back up to another Sqn attacking. A/c were scattering in all directions. I spotted 5 Me 110's above us and one below us. Its was help yourself time. I dove on the 110 and started giving him long bursts at 300 yards and closed spotted hits all over then 2 chutes came out. Next, Dickie Bird was yelling Tally ho bombers below the cloud layer. Circling back , I saw Dickie get one . I closed on the other fireing 1 Four Second burst I got hits then nothing The ammo was gone. I did a wing-over as the e/a left a smoke trail towards France. Out of the cloud layer a diving Me 110 Bounced me then left. I landed very carefully at Gatwick with 21 MG hits in the fuselage + 9 MG hits in the port wing and maybe 2 20mm hits near the elevator.


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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/30/18 05:36 AM

Connor O'Connor,
Fun in the Clouds
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/30/18 07:00 PM

Shouldnt the landing be made on the Grass next to the Runway ? Instead of Blocking the Runway ? I remember seeing movies clips of B-17's, 1`2 O clock high and Memphis Belle, Where damaged a/c put down off Runway.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 09/30/18 07:11 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Aug 30, 1940

3 Destroyed
3 damaged
1 probable

Aug 30, 1918. Down for Maintenance today and hoping more replacements will be sent up. My American Friend over in 74 Sqn Sqn sent over an American Pin up of a use for Bar wire that my side never thought of. I say, it is a Novel Idea.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/01/18 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by carrick58
Shouldnt the landing be made on the Grass next to the Runway ? Instead of Blocking the Runway ? I remember seeing movies clips of B-17's, 1`2 O clock high and Memphis Belle, Where damaged a/c put down off Runway.


Hee hee, yes of course it should! But see I did not know that my gear was up, the G key and I have a strange relationship. Sometimes it seems to work and then sometimes I have to push it several times. So I had quite a surprise at my touchdown, fortunately it was a good approach!

Nice pics, by the way, carrick!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/01/18 04:58 PM

Coo,l Mr Rawlings. I was wondering since U had the landing gear problem Can u manually let down the gear ? and by the way, it was a good pancake. Well done.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/01/18 05:18 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Sep 3, 1940

3 Destroyed
3 damaged
1 probable

Sgn Scramble cover Base, Off Both Sections went 12 a/c in all. The flights curved up climbing at full power. Top Hat came on saying 30+ Over base, angles 12, Buster. In all the heavy clouds , I couldnt see any thing. at 3000 ft I spotted Flack over Tangmere and yelled Tallyho Flying over the AF the Bombers had already dropped. Still in a nose high attitude the Escort Hit us. I got mixed up with Three 109s . I broke right with my wingman and slipped in a cloud but they hit my wingman puking smoke he bailed. I came out of the cloud layer and spotted a 109 lower and slow so dove on him . Pushing the trigger , my 303's cut into the e/a. Belching dark smoke, he went don getting lower till his wing caught a tree. After that I chased the flack burst chasing more 109s. RTB. The Sgn lost 2 a/c both pilots bailed out. claims 3 .

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Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/01/18 05:39 PM

Yes you can manually pump gear (if it's not totally broken).
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/02/18 03:11 PM

Thanks
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/02/18 05:12 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Sep 7, 1940

4 Destroyed
3 damaged
1 probable

Sqn Scramble Bandits 10+ West of Brighton Angels 12, . The Sqn's 12 a/c arrived over Brighton to be greeted by diving 109's ( I saw 2 ) and Bombers at 10,000 ft. ( I spotted one flight of five ) 2 section turned towards the bombers ( do 17's or 215's ) only to have Me 110's pass in front (2) with 2 Higher coming down. I mixed it up with 2 engine Beasts,but they got away. No joy for me. Results One Section lost 1 a/c with 2 damaged claimed 2 e/a 2 Section claimed 0 e/a no losses but 1 damaged.

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Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/02/18 06:57 PM

Love the first pic... only thing that could improve it is if all the aircraft had different skins instead of the same skin repeated.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/03/18 03:47 PM

I was thinking of eliminating the last letter on the next pilot that way it will just show the Sqn,
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/03/18 03:51 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group


Late day Sep 7 1940.

I say, bit of wizard. The Canteen Truck came by and the Red Cross Lassie's passed out Tea and some kind of Lend Lease Treat.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/04/18 04:47 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Sep 8, 1940

4 Destroyed
4 damaged
1 probable


Sep 8, 1940.

Morning Patrol Gosport: No contact.

Afternoon Scramble : Yellow section was the 1st to get Airborne ( 2 min 10 sec ) of the Sqn's 11 a/c. Vectored South of London at 10000 ft. , The flight Leader added 2,000 ft more. and turned towards the flack bursts . As we approached another set of flack was going off to the port then 5 Bombers appeared out of the clouds in front. We attacked line astern ( I damaged one ? ) then we scattered. I came back around for another shot Closed then banked right to avoid a collision. Taking hits, I did a wing over and took more hits. Breaking out below, I headed towards the closest base ( West Malling ) The motor on my kite went U/S and fuel was leaking. I was going to Pancake (. a la Mr Wiggins ) but the landing Gear was U/S also. the Temp gauge was going off the clock so I Bailed Out. Score: 2 Hurricanes destroyed + 3 Damaged. E/a 5 Claimed + 1 Probable+ 1 damaged. He 111's ?


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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/04/18 10:29 PM

Any crash you can walk away from...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/05/18 02:37 AM

lol Thats for sure.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/05/18 04:51 AM

Speaking of which...

Connor O'Connor
32 Sqd
Biggin Hill
Dawn scramble out towards Margate - saw the escort fighters first after fiddling about for fifteen minutes. I struggled to find one of my own but eventually got at one when his mate decided to get real close! Thank goodness new planes arrive daily!
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/05/18 11:28 AM

I love the fact that when you hear ''bandits at 9 o'clock above us'' when you look in that direction they are actually there!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/05/18 12:48 PM

Yes, but it does get a bit weird when enemies show up mid-fight and your flight leader is no longer in the same horizontal plane or cardinal orientation as you. In future phases I feel like we could use at least some slightly expanded comms... salute
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/05/18 04:32 PM

Landing directions ? or Flight check in ? or the BoB stanby directions to emergency Landing field ?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/05/18 04:44 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Sep 9, 1940

4 Destroyed
4 damaged
1 probable

Sep 9, 1940

Up chasing fighters S.E. London area. I say, wish the ops people could tell the difference of fighters from bombers. B Flight had the duty and was posted as re-reinforcements. I couldnt get close enough gave a few squirts at 1000 yds, but couldnt hit a sausage. Red section claimed 2 kills a 109 ( I saw it complete with chute ) and a Me 110. Yellow section lost 1 Hurricane when we were bounced by Me 110's.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/05/18 09:12 PM

Been mess in with the 109 for my next pilot Yohann Wick. what ar think?

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/05/18 10:32 PM

Man you have come a long way since those first skins, looks great! But what happened to Nigel?!?
Posted By: ChiefWH

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/06/18 09:54 AM

Just when I'm thinking I'm getting to be a bit of a boss at this BoB malarkey, I start a pilot in the second stage of BoB; one uneventful patrol, then a scramble. Early on in the fight I get a 109 on my tail and can't shake him, he starts to land hits. I break down low and head to a nearby airfield. As I approach bombs explode on a nearby hill, it looks like the enemy missed the airfield and hit St Mary's church instead! I appreciate this brilliantly timed spectacle seen through driving rain and approach the airfield thinking all will still be well. But my pressure is suddenly falling, the engine dies as I approach,... no bother, I can still put down....

Except for a tree I couldn't see under my nose and with no power or speed was unable to weave to see.

Dead after two flights; never underestimate the task at hand.
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/06/18 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by carrick58
Been mess in with the 109 for my next pilot Yohann Wick. what ar think?


No wonder all your flight keep getting killed... there are a lot of 'unlucky for some' marked planes out there!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/06/18 04:27 PM

Nigel is good still hackin away.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/06/18 04:39 PM

Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Sep 10 , 1940

4 Destroyed
4 damaged
1 probable

Morning Patrol over an Arms work No contact

Afternoon: Ops shot off a flair and off we went off trying to get airborne. Over the Radio telephone came from Top Hat to Obit South London Trade is 20+ angels 10, Red Section came on saying they would cover as Yellow section attacked. Yellow leader Tally ho'ed the e/a. I could see 3 a/c amid flack burst then break and turn trying to line up for a burst. It was dicey playing with the Me 110's amid the clouds. None for me, but the flight of 6 Hurri's claimed 2 e/a. 3 of ours were damaged.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/18 05:20 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow 3
Westhampett, AF

Sep 11, 1940

4 Destroyed
4 damaged
1 probable


Sep 11, 1940. I got the "Chop" on my 2nd outing over London today.

1100 hrs Scramble: The Sqn's 6 a/c got off alright,but we were late ( Controller ? Ops ? ) Anyway by the time we got there the enemy was going home .

Approximately 1445 hrs The flair was fired by ops and off we went, Control vectored towards S.E. London 30+ angles 20000ft Never made it, We got hit by 109's near Brighton as we were claiming. I spotted 6 of them coming down and Ack Ack fire off to the left More e/a ?. then It was dog eat dog. I was the flight Lt's wing-man so when a fighter got on his tail , I pulled in behind and gave him a 4 sec burst. ( got a few hits too ). Unfortunately, his wing mate got behind and did me in with MG fire, The Hurri's motor sputtered and puked black smoke Tenp off the clock, cooling system gone so went over the side getting banged around in the slip stream. Landed out in sticks of the city so hobbled over to a Lorrie repair shop and the attendant, https://giphy.com/gifs/rockabilly-machineshop-rocker-4HianAHkEeIYMyBYgi/fullscreen, gave me a lift. I will be with the medics for awhile.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/18 02:03 AM

Nicely done, Notting. I feel sure we have gone through a squad of Hurri's between us!

Connor O'Connor
32 Squadron, Biggin Hill
Spent the end of July in the hospital after a nasty bailout. (Of my plane or a lady's bed...well, I am sure I don't remember!)
Here's a tale of two Messerschmitts:
One nice, one sassy...both dead!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/18 03:59 PM

I Know, soon I will be a German Ace. Whose side are we on ? However Notting did fine a good Tire/ Lorrie repair shop for he Sqn Commanders Lorrie.
Great Vid as always Mr. Rawlings
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/18 06:55 PM

Bloody hell Rick... that Hun pilot was throwing that 110 around like a single engine fighter!
His gunner was also getting hits on you even after all that violent jockeying around!!!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/18 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Trooper117
Bloody hell Rick... that Hun pilot was throwing that 110 around like a single engine fighter!
His gunner was also getting hits on you even after all that violent jockeying around!!!

Indeed. I guess he stopped shooting at the end because he had thrown up his pea soup all over the windscreen. Or maybe he was dead.

I had not seen the bullet hole damage decal before, that was nice, especially with the wind whistling effect. It was also a nice touch how the damaged gear wouldn't lock down but still held for the landing. Just pleasant surprises all the time!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/09/18 02:25 AM

I think thats why OBD games are so playable Just pleasant surprises all the time be it WOFF or WOTR.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/09/18 03:41 AM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow Leader
Westhampett, AF

4 Destroyed
4 damaged
1 probable

Sep 21, 1940. Glad to be away from the Medico's. I say, Frightful place Male Nurses all over. 145 Squadron back to full strength off went 12 a/c on a 1500 hrs Scramble to intercept over London. I spotted 5 bombers weaving amid Ack Ack. I was element leader so when I closed and started getting hits, I became surprised when bullets flew pass my port side Breaking right, I found it was my wingman P/O Leary firing at my target. I circled and found another fat Bomber racing , empty, for France. I fire a number of 4 Sec Bursts as I closed from 300 yards. Smoke puked form the e/a starboard engine and his wing tip was sheered off. E/a went down somewhere by Harlow. I was alone so RTB. The sgn claimed 3 that day ,but we Lost the Sqn Commander. ( we kept his Lorrie since it was not Government equipment and re-assigned my wingman to A Flight . )

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/09/18 04:09 AM

Wow, that was a scissors near clip on his wing! Well done!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/09/18 07:41 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow Leader
Westhampett, AF

4 Destroyed
4 damaged
1 probable

Sep 22, 1940.

Section Scramble: Climbing over Brighton we could see the Ack Ack smoke so flew towards it. Flight Leed called Tally Ho low and to the left 4 fast moving a/c, I spotted 5 Bandits high and to the right then as we turn to for line astern 2 of our replacement pilots came together with Fire and smoke bot went down. No chutes were spotted. 4 more fast moving e/a joined from starboard side. I chased 2 fighters giving pots shots then joined up with Flight Lt. Dudley ( his a/c was smoking ) The sound was like a Rainstorm of Rocks as the motor stopped then a Me 110 shot by. I could see a 109 in the mirror diving for the kill so I bailed out. The e/a clipped my useless kite as it passed and was destroyed. I landed near Kenley AF. Lost 6 a/c from B flight. 4 KIA, 2 bailed out ( Myself and Lt Dudley. Claims 0. or 1 by midair ?

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/10/18 04:11 PM

Nigel Notting
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sgn, 11 Group
B Flight, 2 section
Yellow Leader
Westhampett, AF

4 Destroyed
4 damaged
2 probable

Sep 24, 1940.

The Brass Hats gave me the bomber that I shot down a few days back as a probable . Orders came down 145 Sqn is on the move to Scotland for Reforming and Rest. Its about time too , We are down 4 a/c ,but one is a Hanger Queen. No Sqn Commander , and only 5 pilots. I will be driving up there since I dont have an a/c and we kept the Old C.O.'s lorrie for transportation. The Chats chipped in their Ration Coupons and a little cash. I took the lorrie down to the Repair shop in town for Used Tires. I must say, Helping the attendant looking in the shelves was a treat.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/11/18 02:46 AM

Johann Wick
Hauptgfreiter
1 JG 3.
Colembert, France.

11 Jul 1940.
Big fight over a convoy. As we my schwarm attacked we could other a/c swarming in a Bee hive over ships. I saw 1 go down and a chute opened then I got one that I chased towards England. His Chute also opened. The Red fuel bulb would be coming on soon so scooted home.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/11/18 07:11 PM

Johann Wick
Hauptgfreiter
1 JG 3.
Colembert, France.
1 kill

14 Jul 1940.

Landing Accident.! DECEASED KILLED KAPUT

The schwarm ran into Spitfires over a convoy while covering Bombers. A long shoot out followed. The pilot was down to 37% Fuel when headed home. 1st Landing attemp too Hot so made so made a go around. a 2nd attemp Too fast ? went into a ground loop mode and crashed.


CRASH ATE IT DECEASED RIP TOTALED CRUNCH TIME SMASHED UP

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Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/18 10:49 AM

I think the words you are looking for Carrick are:

Verbangen totallen kaputen versmashen
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/13/18 01:54 AM

Ah, That statement is very much to the point. and it does seem to be correct. along with OUCHIE !
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/13/18 02:17 AM

Cyril Wadsworth
Flight Lieutenant
B Flight
601 Sqn,
Croydon AF

July 11, 1940.

Hq at 10 Group had our Sqn switch places with 111 Sqn to get On the Job Training in Combat. . Posted to Cover Convoy Empire in mid Channel . Lumba Control ( Hornchurch) came on calling Weapon Leader ( Sgn Leader 601 ) 20+ Bandits angels 15. Soon it became a real mix up I saw 4 fighters low and fast the 4 more high and to port then they were everywhere. We Lost 2 a/c that afternoon and may have damage a few. ?

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/14/18 12:35 AM

Cyril Wadsworth
Flight Lieutenant
B Flight
601 Sqn,
Croydon AF


July 12, 1940

Patrol Beachy Head. No Joy

Jul 13, 1940.

Patrol Rye Chain Home. No contact.

2 Replacements reported in.

Went to the Ritz in London to party.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/14/18 02:02 PM

Wow, carrick, they're simply irresistible!

Due to a terminal case of ram-itis, Connor O'Connor is no more, but Bruno Kurtz is on the rise! I actually saw my first Spitfires and spent some time trying to decide if it was a Hurricane or a 109 before it turned and gave me a look at that big beautiful elliptical wing! I got a shared and will hopefully get another confirmed singly for the most recent flight:


pro-tip: the brakes key is apparently momentary and not a toggle...

Pol, can we get shared kills? Pretty please!

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/14/18 04:54 PM

I share your view point. I had to stare seeing the Spitfires Wings.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/14/18 05:06 PM

Cyril Wadsworth
Flight Lieutenant
B Flight
601 Sqn,
Croydon AF


14 Jul 1940

A Flight was off duty for maintenance so B fight had Patrol over Convoy Angel. Lumba called 12 + bandits to your East at 18000. Ok Lumba, then told green section to cover us . Yellow 2 called Tallyho on a 110 high and we gave chase then I spotted a flight of Bombers at our level off to port. As I called Line Astern ,. 4 109s hit us. Scattered, I closed on one and got chunks off the wing then smoke . The e/a went down near mid Channel. No chute. We lost 2 a/c.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/14/18 08:54 PM

Bruno Kurtz
JG2
Convoy Attack

So...ship hunting... which I was supposed to do on an earlier mission but didn't because I didn't know that was a thing... I mean, I know the 109 has cannons and all, but I thought "Isn't that what we have bombers for?" So I was wondering what we were doing at 1500 meters the whole flight and when we got to the attack zone I was like "CLIMB! CLIMB!" Then I spent 20 minutes circling around wondering where everybody was! But not this time!



It's pretty cool. There will probably have to be some graphics work on later phases but definitely a good start!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/18 02:31 AM

Cyril Wadsworth
Flight Lieutenant
B Flight
601 Sqn,
Croydon AF


16 Jul 1940.

Patrol Dover : No contact.
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/18 10:24 AM

When I did the ship hunting missions, I honestly thought I was there to simply escort some Stuka's, because let's face it, even with cannons, you just aren't going to fatally damage or sink a large ocean going ship!
I just stayed as high cover waiting for some RAF types to show up, (never did) and then flew back to the airfield.
The immersion factor went straight out of the window there and then I'm afraid frown
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/18 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Trooper117
When I did the ship hunting missions, I honestly thought I was there to simply escort some Stuka's, because let's face it, even with cannons, you just aren't going to fatally damage or sink a large ocean going ship!
I just stayed as high cover waiting for some RAF types to show up, (never did) and then flew back to the airfield.
The immersion factor went straight out of the window there and then I'm afraid frown

Right?!? I just assumed that I shot them in their large explosive contraband. Every time. hahaha
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/18 01:49 PM

lol... if only 20mm's were needed to sink ships, then there would be no need for bombers or torpedo planes. The jerries could have saved themselves a shed load of money biggrin
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/18 11:17 PM

Cyril Wadsworth
Flight Lieutenant
B Flight
601 Sqn,
Croydon AF

17 1nd 18 Jul 1940.


2 Patrols with 8 a/c over Margate and the approach s to the Thames. No Contact.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/16/18 11:30 PM

Cyril Wadsworth
Flight Lieutenant
B Flight
601 Sqn,
Croydon AF

1 victory

19 Jul 1940

Patrol Southhamptom with 10 a/c. No contact. My 109 ditched in the channel a few days back and a fising boat found wreckage.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/17/18 01:48 AM

Cyril Wadsworth
Flight Lieutenant
B Flight
601 Sqn,
Croydon AF

1 Victory

20 Jul 1940

Final Patrol over Margate then Pack ur Kit 601 is on the move back to Filton and 10 Group to share our Combat experience.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/18/18 12:27 AM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Staff Ops officer
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O




Jul 18 1940

Although my duties since returning to the Fatherland keeps me away from flying, I do get the chance to put in a few with 1 JG 2. We were flying at 20000 Trolling for English Fighters no luck today.

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Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/18/18 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Trooper117
lol... if only 20mm's were needed to sink ships, then there would be no need for bombers or torpedo planes. The jerries could have saved themselves a shed load of money biggrin

You could probably empty your guns into the bridge for the sake of immersion. A fairly common practise for those without some big boom boom slung underneath. (I doubt you'd get any practical value from doing so in game though but you never know, CFS3 had you strafing ships IIRC)
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/18/18 12:46 PM

Heh, no, you can blow them up with a big boom! Check out the relevant video here!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/18/18 04:24 PM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Staff Ops officer
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O


July 19,1940 My schwarm was covering bombers attacking a Convoy when We could see a/c down low fighting and zooming then over the RT came " Achtung Spitfires " Two fighters at 4 o clock and diving on us. As we scattered and twisted, I got off a shot then he was gone in a turn. I heard over the RT Falcon # 4 got 1. then it was reform and home.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/19/18 02:08 AM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Staff Ops officer
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O

July 21, 1940.

High cover for Stukas. No air contact.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/19/18 04:06 PM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Staff Ops officer
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O


24 Jul 1940.

Our mission was to attack shipping. Our cover Kette was attacked by the English. They were high and to the port by the time my kette swung around , my fuel was down to just above 30% . My kette flipped over and dove for France. I ended up landing at Le Harv AF out of juice. Top Cover lost 2 a/c for 3 claimed. Recommended to the Gruppe Commander to move all aircraft closer to the Channel. Our 109's don't have the legs this far back

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/18 02:11 AM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Staff Ops officer
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O

30 Jul 1940.

Bailed out over the Channel after getting hit by fighters. My schwarm was on offensive patrol off Dippe whe I spotted two fighters high. Turning and climbing to chase 2 Hurricane types appeared on my six a Few hits later my eng was somkin and part of my wing fell off. Nothing to do but Bail Out.
No claims but we lost 2 more a/c. Lucky for me, I was picked up by a HE 115 and transferred to a Fishing Trawler.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/18 05:11 AM

Glad you made it! Always wondered what a realistic time was to get back in the fight...
Posted By: Dark_Canuck

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/18 01:08 PM

It depended on the situation, but based on my readings for a lot of rescued English pilots it was same day delivery to their airfield if they were not wounded.

Im sure it was a similar situation for the Germans as well.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/18 05:08 PM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Staff Ops officer
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O

Aug 5, 1940.

Bagged a fighter this afternoon, but by the time, I am flying a Replacement machine and it is worn down, I caught up to him we were over England so did a split "S" and went home amid Flack coming up.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/18 09:28 PM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Staff Ops officer
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O


Aug 7, 1940.


Finally assigned a Staff a/c. Went up with a Rotte for a Channel Sweep and to test hop. Sweet.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/21/18 05:41 PM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Komander IV Staffel
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O


Aug 18, 1940

On orders by Gruppe, I was to take command of 4 Staffel as their C.O. had been shot down over England. I had the enlisted paint a yellow 1 on my machine so I could be seen if the RT went out. After that, I took the Staffel up two times today over Boxhall and Hastings Trolling for fighters to come up. Nothing but Flack.


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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/21/18 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dark_Canuck
It depended on the situation, but based on my readings for a lot of rescued English pilots it was same day delivery to their airfield if they were not wounded.

Im sure it was a similar situation for the Germans as well.

Man that is service! Back to your squadron that same day or your pizza is free!
Posted By: Dark_Canuck

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/21/18 09:19 PM

I wad recently reading Last of the Few by Max Aitkens. One of the pilots described a story of crash landing near his airfield after being heavily damaged in a dogfight, only to be back up in the air on another patrol within 30 minutes of touching the ground. That would have to get to you emotionally.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/22/18 04:30 AM

Tough to find time to fly these days! Even less time to crash!

Jeremy Pluck
The fighting 56th!
Mission 2 - now, after claiming the kill, the window came back in a weird ratio (way too large) and I could never click on the continue button, so I had to kill the game from the task manager. Therefore this is one of those missions that takes place in an alternate universe and won't show up on the official tally...still fun though!

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/22/18 04:38 PM

Nice Vid
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/22/18 04:52 PM

Luthor Linderman
Hauptman
Komander IV Staffel
Gruppe JG 2
Beaumont le Roger
Victories 15 ( WWI )
Current : O


21 Aug 1940.

My pilot got the C H O P today. His staffel was over the same areas Clearing Frane test fire guns, then Enemy Coast ahead, check fuel Make a right turn over the tall towers on towards Box Hall. 2 Enemy fighters called and we chased Horrido ! 1 down by my schwarm as I chased mine low over Lympe AF . A few test shots at him for range and lead then FLACK all over. One broke with a roar then sputter smoke blood in the cockpit. I headed for the coast but hit the ground . Like strawberry jam , My Pilot was spread all over the place KIA. Moral of the story: Dont chase low over enemy Airfields with flack guns.
KAPUT.



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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/22/18 06:13 PM

(Mechanic comes in to the waiting room as you are watching the Maury Povich show) "Well, sir, I think we tracked down your problem sir. Seems your plane is a big flaming wreck in the middle of a field. We're going to do an oil change and then send you on your way, I just came in here to show you the condition of your air filter. Now we can replace that for $19.95. And, of course, on a big flaming total loss like this, we also recommend a transmission flush, which I can get you the manager's special at just $149.95. So if you can just sign here, we'll get started. Oh, and the coffee should be out shortly. Sorry, all we have is decaf..."
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/23/18 01:33 AM

lol good one. On the down side, That was one of my better skins. I ve had cars like that.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/23/18 01:39 AM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Hendon AF.

12 Jul 1940.

I say, bit of luck . Our 6 a/c ran into 2 109's over Hastings and Mixed it up. I banged away at my bloke till the guns hissed air then had to let him go. The flight claimed 1.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/23/18 02:56 AM

Watson

Joined my mates and went to the Waldorf to party and see the performers

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/23/18 04:52 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Hendon AF.


15 Jul 1940.


Bagged a ME 110 today and shared in a Stuka. B flight was directed by Lumbra control over the Convoys at Margate. Upon arriving we spotted down low a flight of Stukas just finishing up on a Convoy 2 ships were sinking. Flight Leader yelled Tally ho then we went down. My wing-mate and I banged away at a Stuka then Me 110's dropped on us ( I saw 2 ,but the may have been 4 ) I was able to get off Two 4 second bursts and he fell apart.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/24/18 12:10 AM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Hendon AF.


18 Jul 1940.

B Flight went up with 5 and came back with 4 Hurri's. We were orbiting Chain Home near Margate and caught 3 a/c Snoopers or weather ships. Leader called line abreast ,but Yellow 4 ( P/O Rowland ) shot ahead closed the e/a and midair crash ! Just too Keen to come to grips with the enemy.? I saw both go down.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/24/18 10:45 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Hendon AF.


Events:

19 Jul 1940: Over a convoy in spottie weather lost an a/c Missing.

25 Jul 1940. Convoy cover , No contact

27 Jul 1940: Moved to Northolt . a full service Air base with a Canteen .

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/24/18 11:02 PM

P/O Waston

I did a little exploring and found where the Boffins hang out. I thought that they could explain this Chain Home ( the tall towers along the coast that we circle above) thing. However, No luck. The Prof. was very cheerful, but I still dont have a clue.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/25/18 10:03 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.
1 and 1/2 Kills.


27 July 1940.

2 Patrols today, No Joy. The 1st to Ventor the next to Boxhall. Both Flights were standing Patrols 10 a/c.

Popped over to wish Jumbo Good Luck He just started Ops on a New type Night Fighter.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/26/18 06:42 PM

Man, busy week!

Jeremy Pluck
The Fightin' 56!
Here's another brief encounter. We were vectored in south-east of Mersea just after my first cup of tea. Expecting bombers, we ran into a flight of 109's about 200 feet above us. We met them in a climbing turn and then we formed a chain of everyone-shoot-the-guy-in-front-of-them-whilst-avoiding-the-bloke-behind-them. I got some nervous shots on the fellow attacking Leader, but never got to follow through with the kill. After several round-abouts, Jerry headed for home and despite slamming the throttle to the stop, I couldn't make any headway and watched them go. As I was circling back, I did see one enemy A/C going down with a dead prop and was able to provide confirmation for one of my squad mates...

Ended up a dangerous day with two of us lost against at least two of them...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/26/18 09:22 PM

A short and violent fight : Well done. I would think most of the fights at that time were short and violent
Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/26/18 09:53 PM

Im really enjoying reading/watching these reports thanks. I hope that canteen at Northolt is serving your men good food Carrick yep
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/26/18 10:52 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.
1 and 1/2 Kills.


Tea Time at the Canteen.






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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/26/18 11:06 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.
1 and 1/2 Kills.


28 Jul 1940


Its a Sqn Scramble: Off we went and checked in with Top Hat, Vector mid Channel of f Southamton. Re- reinforce Convoy Cover ( 303 ? ) Buster Angels 10000. Coming to Grips , we spotted Stukas attacking the second line of ships. B flight stayed high, I joined A flight attacking 2 Stukas down low. Never got in position to fire saw 2 e/a go down. Started to rejoin and heard RT calls of Tallyho. Spotted and chased a 109 all over the channel . Finally, he turned for home so cut across his flight path and used the rest of my ammo. The e/a's motor cut out and in he went Splash, one Me 109. I was by then alone so put about and RTB. We claimed 5 destroyed for 3 losses.


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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/26/18 11:55 PM

Nice work on the 109, carrick! They are tricksy Bagginses for sure!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/27/18 01:19 AM

Jeremy Pluck
The Fightin' 56th Squadron!
Another scramble to Margate. Seems the RDF has a hair up its bum over the North Sea entrance to the Channel...Anyway, it was at least later in the morning so we got a proper breakfast...As we were circling our ships, we spotted a flight of bombers west of us, closer to shore! Heading in, I attacked one, but Kennicot with his steadier hand finished the bugger off!
I thought I was going to go home empty handed (again) when I spotted explosions near our ships back to the east. I headed out that way and ran into a whole flight of Heinkels! Settling in on the leader, I was able to take him down but only after he put seven holes in my left wing and shot away the controls for my gear and flaps. That necessitated a rough belly landing at the field and a new plane and pair of trousers for me!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/27/18 03:36 AM

I agree the 109 is a tricky devil to bag in a Hurricane.

U R the belly landing champ my end in KIA. Good vid.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/27/18 04:18 AM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.
1 and 1/2 Kills.


July 29, 1940

Convoy Patrol : The sgn's 8 a/c arrived on station over Convoy Empire at 1110 hours , Only to have 4 Me 110's dive on us no warning from control. The fight lasted a long time , I banged away but couldn't hit a sausage then the guns hissed empty. so dove away as one was heading for me. The score was 1 to 1 so we drew even in losses.

Intercept: B flight's 5 a/c were sent out over the channel and connected with a 4 a/c enemy bomber flight. I say , a hot one took 3 hits in my kite,but I did damage one. The Boys knocked down 3 of the e/a in that fight. 1 Hurricane was shot down no one saw a Chute.

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Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/28/18 06:25 AM

I am still messing about in Quick Scenarios as I haven't had the time to start a proper Campaign. Here is a general DMR from a recent QS mission. winkngrin

S!Blade<><

A mid morning patrol mission and all is quiet until I spot a lone He111 down low trying to sneak in amid the cloud cover. His navigator must have miscalculated their bearings and seemingly he has now separated himself from the large formation of axis bombers being reported just to the South of us by Fighter Command. Our Squadron leader had to return to base when his Hurricane was streaming a slight bit of oil and his oil pressure gauge was fluctuating wildly. He relinquished his command to me and I accepted the Flight Leader role for the duration of the mission. My nerves are on edge as I roll over and lead my two mates down to attack this lone bomber.

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I am hell bent on not letting this Jerry unload his bombs on any British targets. I know he is looking for any target of opportunity and I don't have much time to dispatch him before he will unleash his eggs and inflict the punishment which he is determined to deliver. As I maneuver into a firing position I let loose one burst which must have killed the top gunner. I settle in behind the He111 and ask my mates to scan for any Jerry fighter cover that might be about. I fire on my target and score numerous hits.

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The He111 is shredding into pieces as I pour my 303s ammunition into it, and the bomber is slowly disintegrating.

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I pore on the coals with short burst after short burst of my 303s and the He111 is becoming a mangled death trap for the Jerries inside. I can only assume the pilots controls are jammed from the damage being inflicted by my eight guns, as he is flying on straight and level and has not tried to evade my attack. For a bomber in a group this would be normal, but a single bomber would usually maneuver to try and thwart my attack. These Jerries are only along for the death ride as I push my attack relentlessly.

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I know the top gunner is not dead now because I can see him fighting his guns trying to free what surely must be a jam as I assault the bomber at my leisure. I am firing only short bursts to keep my 303s cool and conserve my ammunition in case we are jumped by 109s. I trust my mates to spot any Jerries, but one never knows where they can come from and surprise you. They love to attack out of the sun where one cannot see them pressing their assault.

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Only the crew of this He111 know the hell that exists within its' fuselage right this moment. The hot shrapnel from the bullets I am unleashing on them is taking its toll and the suffering is immense. Death searches them each out as their bomber slowly is dying in and of itself. The protection it has so bravely offered each of them is slowly being broken.

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Death took its toll as the He111 finally gave up her life and plummeted towards the water. I watch her smoking badly and on fire now, and as she goes down I see two parachutes emerge. For those two Jerries the war is over, but for the others still in the He111 the war is over in a very different way. They are on their way to a watery grave encapsulated in a fiery tomb.

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As we fly over and confirm my kill I search my heart as to what I have just done. It is a hollow feeling to have been so charged up to get a kill and stop the enemy and then contemplate the cost. While exhilaration runs through my veins my heart aches for the hell I have just unleashed on another man. War is a heavy burden, even for a righteous cause.

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As I and my mates fly on to return to our patrol sector my wing man shouts out, "Fighters! seven o'clock high!!! I look up and see three Bf109ps rolling over to dive in and attack us.

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Clearing my mind I call break and we each take evasive maneuvers. My two mates each roll over and split s off to the right and the left.

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I pulled up and rolled over to my left to dive into the clouds nearest my Hurricane. My enemy has the advantage and the clouds are my best defense. I now must fight to save my life and my adversary rightfully deserves my respect. I will try to maneuver myself into a place of advantage or a place of safety. In the clouds I hope to gain his six or.... lose him and survive to fight another day. I ask The Lords' help in this endeavor.

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As I scream towards the clouds I can see one of the Bf109s diving on me with a high rate of overtake. He is almost within guns range as I get closer to the clouds. I see him level out and watch as I enter the clouds, seemingly not wanting to follow me in. Does he not have the nerve to follow me in? Or maybe he is low on petrol,... or maybe he is out of ammo?? I notice my heart is pounding on my chest as if to leap from it.

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Once in the clouds I bank left towards England just to make sure Jerry doesn't have an easy shot on me if he followed me in. As I ease off the stick and descend to the West I hear my wing man scream over the radio," I am hit and going down!!! ....Nooooooooo! I scream!!!


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I level out in the clouds and key my mic, "Roger, Roger,.... mate come in!!!.... Roger!!!!" After all of the chaos, silence should be a welcome friend to me but I would give anything, even my victory over that bomber to hear Rogers voice.. to know he was alive.....

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As I clear the clouds I am alone, the sun is shining with nothing but the roar of my engine and the sight of my sweet home England playing to my eyes. Tears roll from my eyes as I accept that Roger is gone and Kent has not radioed in. I am alone. I am merely a boy in the middle of a war, trying to survive....

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After landing and securing my trusted Hurricane I am debriefed and head straight to the pilots pub to raise a drink to the memory of Roger and Kent and our Beloved England. "We lost two good pilots today, but we fight for Freedom so their lives were not given in vane!!!"
But for the Grace of my God, there go I ! This was not my day, so I shall fight on offering up my life for the cost of a Free England!


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After a fitful nights sleep, hearing the bombing in London, I am back in my Hurricane early in the morning ready for another go at Jerry!

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/28/18 07:01 AM

Nice! Some fresh blood! Great write up and pics!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/28/18 05:45 PM

Really Nice pics very Arty and good write up.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/28/18 05:52 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.
2 and 1/2 Kills.



Events:

31 Jul 1940: Convoy Booty mixed it with 4 Me 109's against our 7 Hurricanes No losses no claims.

7 Aug 1940: Patrol Southampton: No contact

8 Aug 1940: Convoy Star, No contact. Replacements came in the sqn has 14 pilots and 15 airplanes.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/28/18 09:38 PM

Jeremy Pluck
The Fightin' 56! (I am trying to get this to take off with my mates, but it hasn't happened yet!)
North Weald

Our lunch-time patrol ran into a flight of bombers! Their escorts being extremely tardy, we settled in behind them almost in formation! The AA started up and I was fearful of a collision or being hit by Archibald... In my timidity, I failed to down a bomber, but when the escorts finally did show up, things went a little differently...
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/28/18 09:50 PM

Jeremy Pluck
The Fightin' 56!
North Weald
August 1st

The heat of summer is in full force, creating a miasma of fog and smoke over the lands. We took off on an early morning patrol to the North Sea (again!) and ran into a lower flight of bombers headed east. With the cloud cover down around 8000 feet, they had nowhere to hide as we settled in behind them. I fired off over 1500 rounds into one but he refused as to so much as smoke in my presence! As I pulled away for another pass, Thomas dove in and finished the berk off with two rounds! I swear!


Pol, the fog effect is cool at low level, but higher up it just reads as gray, and the effect where it just disappears all of the sudden, like at 3:04, is very jarring. Maybe it would be best to pull it out until some dithreing or some dx11 effect helps out?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 02:52 AM

2 Rounds OMG change his name to Hawkeye
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 03:03 AM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.
2 and 1/2 Kills.

9 Aug 1940

Hit pay dirt on the 2nd Patrol.

Late Morning Patrol Chain Home; 12 a/c No joy.

1220 hrs The ops fire off a flare and off went the Sqn. The Squadron Leader checked in with Top Hat over the RT They reported Bandits heading for Brighton at Angles 12. Buster. A perfect intercept right behind 5 e/a. I got one had to use all my ammo and saw 2 chutes coming out. My Sqn mates mostly A flight got the other e/a's
I say, the Sods didn't know what hit them. 5 e/a down No losses.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 05:17 AM

Nicely done, carrick! I feel you with the "all my ammo" bit, those bombers soak it up!
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 12:15 PM

Rick, why did you open fire so far away from that 88?
I know you were getting some hits, but I reckon you would have plastered it with a lot more if you had got much closer before you opened up.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 12:43 PM

A) Yes, but it's not like I ran out of ammo. I fired all the way in and still couldn't seal the deal and
B) I knew who was coming hot on my tail: Leprechauns! Just waiting to steal me Lucky Charms!
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 12:46 PM

Lol!!!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 12:51 PM

In all seriousness, if I had parked behind him, I would have done better,which is what the AI sort of does, but I feel that is probably ahistorical and bombers should probably be a bit deadlier yet, or formations tightened, as has been mentioned...
Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 01:20 PM

Not directly related to the comments here, but as luck would have it we have new behaviour for lone or deteched bombers in the next patch (all being well). They will jink and try to make it more difficult for you.

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 02:30 PM

Great news, Pol! Any thoughts on the fog issue from this post?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 04:35 PM

This sim just gets better great news.

Mr Rawlings: I think that it was true using rifle ammo a Bomber is BBBBBBBBig and took a lot of hits. As for me I Start shooting out at 900 yards .
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 04:52 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.
3 and 1/2 Kills.


15 Aug 1940.


Been Rainy and finally cleared up then Scramble. The Sqn's 12 a/c ran into swarms of the sods near Boxhall. 109's . Blimey it was a punch out and total confusion. I was hot one one when my wingman stole my kill then went in a cloud came out and took hits . Flipping over and back into a cloud layer . I lost everyone so RTB. Everything was ok till my landing gear collapsed and I did 360's all over the Northolt Runway. The station Commander said that I was a Messy Chap and not to park on his runway. We lost 4 a/c and claimed 2 109,s. I crashed but was ok, 1 pilot bailed,. 2 KIA and 1 wnd. Not a good day.

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Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 05:51 PM

Not much we can do Rick sorry.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 06:12 PM

Nice you made through the gear collapse, carrick! You're the king now!

Good to know, Pol, thanks for the response!
Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/29/18 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Polovski
Not directly related to the comments here, but as luck would have it we have new behaviour for lone or deteched bombers in the next patch (all being well). They will jink and try to make it more difficult for you.




Excellent news cheers Pol.

Great reports again guys..Love your report and pics Blade
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/30/18 01:22 AM

Mr Rawlings : I dont like these crash contests. My pilot going to eat it !
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/30/18 01:25 AM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.
3 and 1/2 Kills.


In the Late afternoon I hopped over to to the New Observation Post to have a Observation . Later it was over to to watch the competitive races between the Canteen Dollies and The local Pub Maids ( Knights Inn )

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Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/30/18 06:10 AM

My first actual Campaign Mission. Wow, that was fun. We flew out over the Ship Convoy and intercepted 3 JU88s. Diving from about 1000 ft above while following my Flight Leader was awesome. The sound of the engine winding up and howling was very cool. I helped tag team one JU88 so I put a claim in for it. I took out a JU87 on my own , again diving on it from well over 500 ft above. I saw this one crash and burn, so I put a claim in for that one also. WOTR runs really well for me on my old rig with a good 40-59 FPS and almost no stutters at all. I am very impressed. Well I am off work tomorrow and I see a very unproductive day ahead. Hopefully I can get my accuracy up from 13%. yep
Adger I am glad you enjoyed the AAR and pics. There are some great pics by many different people and the reports in this thread are really good. It is going to be hard to make anymore like that because I don't think I am going to want to pause and take the pics and disturb what is happening real time. salute

Edit: I forgot that I did pause and take this one picture of the JU87 before I ripped it a new one and watched it crash and burn. Once you are in the fight it is just hard to stop. It is an immersion killer for me. I may have to learn how to use and edit FRAPS again. It has been years though since I have used it.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/30/18 12:43 PM

Man, that is some nice work right out of the gate, Blade! Don't worry about the accuracy, I know from experience that they don't charge by the bullet!
Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/30/18 04:15 PM

Yes, not bad at all considering P/O Wednsforth is not even 19 years old yet. Of course he lied on his application to the RAF because he could wait no longer to fight the jerrys in the air. He was top of his class during Flight Training and he seeks Honor through Victory in defeating Adolf's Germany.
HeHe, Rick it is a good thing they don't charge by the bullet or old Wednsworth might be peeling potatoes. Some of the other Squadies were showing upwards of 40% accuracy. I can only hope to get that efficient. winkngrin

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/30/18 06:46 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF

3 and 1/2 Kills.
1 damaged


Aug 18, 1940.


0810 Hrs: Patrol Ford Area. No Contact

1210: Sqn Patrol 9 a/c Margate Approaches to the Thames. Over the target contacted Lumbra Control vectored to 12 + Bandits angles 15. The e/a turned into 109's 5 or 6 diving on us in B flight. Scatteed and took 2 second pot shots trying to clear each other tails. I got credit for damage to one, but didnt see any go down the Sgn lost two.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/30/18 06:51 PM

Welcome Blade
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/31/18 02:54 AM

*sigh*

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/31/18 06:49 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.


3 and 1/2 Kills.
2 damaged

Aug 19, 1940.


Scramble for B flight. Our 5 a/c was alerted to snoopers over Chain Home at Beachy Head. The bandit were 4 Me 110's 2 low and to the port . The other two high and to starboard. Most of my flight dove on the lower two, my wing man and I took the Higher pair. As everyone swirled and zoomed I managed to damage a 110 that came past so Hammer down and a few parts fell off. Chased till I spotted the French Coast with Ack Ack coming up so RTB. Score 3 Me 110's claimed no losses. just holes in 4 a/c.


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/01/18 12:58 AM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.


3 and 1/2 Kills.
2 damaged


Aug 20 1940.

We had 9 a/c on a 10 min. Alert and got Scrambled twice. The 1st Time,, the notice was late and by the time we were over Beachy Head the e/a were close to France so it was a wash out.
The 2nd Time, we caught 5 Bomber types near Portsmouth None for me,but the chaps nailed 2 and damaged the rest. We lost one due to collision with e/a.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/01/18 09:25 PM

Dylan Watson
P/O 257 Sqn
B Flight
Northolt AF.


3 and 1/2 Kills.
2 damaged

Aug 21, 1940. KIA KAPUT ATE IT

257 Sqn put the last 5 a/c for a patrol then an afternoon scramble Chased and shot at HE 111 's then 4 ME 110's joined in the Melee. After much twisting and turning, My pilot was out of Ammo so flipped over and headed home . Upon leveling out a Me 110 slipped in behind and Fired. A ball of flame smashed into the English country side. Score 1 bombers down 3 Hurricanes destroyed Pilots 2 KIA, 1 Bailed out.

Rack em Smack em Died Face up.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/01/18 09:47 PM

Rupert Hindermann
LT, 1/JG 26
Schwarm Zwei


10 Jul 1940.

Led the Staffel trolling for English a/c. No luck.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/02/18 10:17 PM

Rupert Hindermann
LT, 1/JG 26
Schwarm Zwei
Audembert, France.

11 Jul 1940..

Escorted Stukas for a convoy attack ( 5 Stukas + our 5 109's ) I was low as the English attacked . I chased a slow fighter then the Spitfires from High up dove on us. They say it was turn and burn as two Spits dropped on mt tail crisscrossing me with MG's fire. I was shot up, but made it back. No losses ,but a bad experience.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/03/18 01:59 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
1st Mission July 10

I got a scramble before I had really settled into the squadron! We broke free of the mists and rains at 12,000 feet and climbed to 15,000 headed SE out over where the Thames meets the sea. For a London boy like me, the sky is a pretty big place! Eventually the RDF got us to the right place, and Leader called out for the bandits, which I couldn't see, but everybody broke up. I stayed with my wingman, as I was instructed to do, but eventually we were attacked by 110's, the ones with the two engines! Colton, my wingman, collided with one and I almost did the same! The tailgunner took out my engine and despite my best efforts, I couldn't get it started again! I managed to get my gear down and land along a road, but as I did so, and to my horror, Kenny Gunn's Hurricane came smashing down into the ground with a tremendous explosion! So despite our flights having shot down several of theirs, it was still a dark day for the squadron!

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/05/18 02:54 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
July 14th

Finally a clear day. We've been sodding the last several without a sign of the enemy. (Except for A flight. They always seem to bag a few. Never tell us where they are even though we have radios!)
We ran into a flight of bombers, which we were able to split up. I fired at two of them and damaged one enough to put in a claim for it, with my new wingman Dan Davis as my witness. (I think "Dan Davis" has good symmetry with "Nigel Neville". so I have a good feeling about him!)
Somewhere along the way, my oil pressure dropped and my engine seized, but I managed a reasonable landing at the field by Margate. It's going to take a couple of days to repair, so I will be using the loner plane in the interim (yuck!)
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/05/18 04:33 AM

good vid
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/05/18 05:10 AM

Thanks, carrick! C'mon, you know you want to join in! Just an NVidia card away! hahaha
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/06/18 06:59 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
Mid July...

Went up on a beautiful day! I loved looking at the sun reflecting off the water. Imagine our surprise when the call of "Bandits" went out! They were a thousand feet below and in the zeal of my dive, I over shot them. Racing back up, I took shots at a few but it always seemed as if my squad-mates were there ahead of me. Eventually I got to one that was racing to the south towards Calais. As I was firing, I was hit myself by a big barrage of fire! I looked around but couldn't see anyone... I have a sneaking suspicion that it was one of those berks from A flight trying to sneak another victory! Of course, my engine started its death-throes immediately! In desperation, I fired off a last volley. Much to my surprise, a moment later I saw 2 parachutes fly out of the bomber as it started to spin down towards the sea! I made it over to Manson field and managed to land there even without the engine. They must be getting pretty sick of seeing me by now. I hopped a lorry and made it back to North Weald just in time to see that my plane would be ready for tomorrow's flights... Oh well another day!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/07/18 06:50 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
2 More Claimed, Woulda Been Three...

I had the weirdest dream last night: I was taking off from our field on a routine patrol on a clear day when all of the sudden, one of the guys behind me slammed into me, destroying my plane and killing me in the process! Anyway, everything went black for a few minutes and then I woke up and everything was back to normal! Weird...

So, we were scrambled today up to get some 87's inbound from France. I am starting to feel more confident and actually managed to shoot down two of them out over the sea. It would have been a third but my wingman, Dan Davis, came roaring down and crashed into him! ( I do not have a good feeling about him! He better confirm the other two for me if he knows what's good for him!) And then it would have been a(nother) third but I had spent so much ammo on the other two (three) that I ran out on what would have been the third (fourth). Oh, well, at least I didn't die like in my dream!

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/09/18 01:09 AM



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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/10/18 02:44 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
July 20

Pulled a late afternoon scramble yesterday. After an earlier uneventful patrol out by Southend, we were called right back there! There were broken clouds from 4000 to 17000 feet but it was overall a pleasant, if hot summer day. As we reached the RDF contact area, we encountered a flight of bombers approaching from the east and slightly below us. I went after one that broke away from the main flight and shot him down with surprising ease. I then went after three others that had broken away and headed south, eventually overtaking them and shooting each down, although I had my engine shot out in the process. I made a rough landing and was hauled out of my plane by some boisterous boys who had seen my fight! Needless to say, I had to by them all a round! This morning I woke up to see that all my recent claims had caught up to me and I was now a 7 kill ace with a medal to boot! I guess more drinks will now be on the way!



Pol, I am still getting a ton of "Direction Unsure" calls; virtually every sortie where there is contact!
Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/11/18 01:33 PM

Wrong thread for it, but it is as designed. We chose to do that instead of an AI calling X oclock which is relative to him, and totally wrong for you. Currently we can't make it so it's always correct for player so it is what it is.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/11/18 02:25 PM

That would be fine... I wouldn't expect them to know my orientation anyway...I'd sort it out from there. As it is now, it just feels "buggy", because they wouldn't do that IRL... thumbsup
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/11/18 11:38 PM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald

We were sent out on a routine patrol down to the cliffs today and ran smack into a bunch of Germans! I went after a 110 that was extremely persuasive in his desire not to be shot down. Eventually, he came around to my way of thinking and I saw two chutes fly out. I then headed out far out into the channel in pursuit of another fleeing enemy. It was only then that my craft started to lose power. Seems I was well into yet another shot out engine. I knew this time I would lose the whole plane as there was no way I could glide that far so I dropped some flaps and angled off towards some small fishing craft to the north. A few minutes later, I head a buzzing sound and looked back to see a 109 bearing down on me! I went into my best approximation of an un-powered power dive as I twisted down away from him. Fortunately, he was no better shot as tracers flew past me. I guess he was too embarrassed to attempt another pass as he headed off towards Calais. I was able to glide for a few more miles before hitting the chute at 1200 feet. Picked up none the worse for wear, I was back to North Weald in time to write this by daylight...
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/12/18 10:37 AM

Good stuff!... but I hope they do something about those chutes in a future patch smile
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/12/18 03:07 PM

Indeed. After a flyable Spit and 110, maybe?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/12/18 07:32 PM

Oh ya, a Spit Mark I and a flyable ME 109 E-3 + a 110.


https://youtu.be/7eI9y0zXQoQ
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/15/18 06:17 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald

I swear I was just trying to show the nice enemy pilot the way to the ground...

Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/15/18 10:55 AM

Rick... I cannot believe you just coasted right in front of the nose armament of a 110 ... eek2
Have you got some sort of death wish?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/15/18 10:38 PM

Well, duh! Haven't you seen my other videos! rofl
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/19/18 07:49 PM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald

Had a good run today, up by Chelmsford we hit the bombers at 13,000 feet. We chased them south and I even went out into the channel, putting rounds in at least three, although I only got credit for one...



Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/20/18 08:57 PM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
July 25th

Scramble again with some bombers! Almost got one but then everybody started colliding like drunk monkeys! We lost Ford, Hill, Stanley and Henderson! I was so distraught that on the way back, I was almost shot down by a 109! I never even saw him... I really do need to get around to cleaning off that rear view mirror...

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/21/18 06:37 PM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
July 27th

Two more confirmed kills yesterday and I was awarded the Military Cross...but it doesn't matter. We lost three more pilots, including Eytinge, who I had always looked up to. There are only six of us left! Hell of a way to run a war!

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/24/18 01:08 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald

Finally made it into August... will this heat never end? It is a relief to get up to 15,000 feet just to feel cold! Anyway, We ran into a mix of bombers and 110's earlier and I put several rounds into several a/c. One 110 ate up most of my ammo before I could convince the crew to bail out, I was worried they would go down to crash, a waste of life, which I guess is all war is really. There, I've gone all glum again...

Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/24/18 11:36 AM

Lots of action going on there!
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/24/18 12:57 PM

Hmm...it hurts me to say this, and perhaps I should just have kept my mouth shut...but not for me, this one, I'm afraid, on the evidence I'm seeing here.

It's August 1940 and your incoming raid consists of four 110s and about the same number of Heinkels (too widely-spaced), who must all have been feeling pretty tired of life to try this out in daylight. This seems typical for WoTR. IRL, your average Luftwaffe raid should be in at least Gruppe strength, in close formation, and with comparable escort, close and/or 'frei jagd'. Even the famous Kenley raid by low-level specialists 9/KG76 was in full staffel strength (and was accompanied by a high-level raid by a Gruppe or so of Ju88s IIRC).

Perhaps even Gruppe-sized raids would considerably push up system requirements, as it seems activity well outside the player bubble is modelled as per WoFF. To what real benefits ('supports ability to transfer or fly around on your own' I don't rate in that category) I'm not convinced, given the front (Flanders or Channel) is static. Forget about the whole front thing, concentrate on reproducing immersively and convincingly the raid to be escorted or intercepted IMHO.

And many of the RT calls, while quality recordings and presumably capable of modding, have an unrealistic or lame script. 'Engaging ENEMY target!', as opposed to what - attacking a FRIENDLY one? Instead of just ''Attacking now!', which would have been realistic.

And while you can see the sortie's plan on the map and presumably on the briefing, there's apparently no representation of Ground Control, such a prominent feature of the Battle.

AI-led flights seem to bimble about at low level for rather a long time, which was odd enough in WoFF but way too unrealistic for the Battle, where gaining height quickly was the thing for interceptors, some leaders even adding a few thousand feet to the given altitude as the risk of being bounced by 109s became more apparent.

On a scale between 'pet features' and 'core features,' for a sim of the Battle of Britain, all the above are by any objective standard well towards the latter end of the scale.

Some 110s seem to exhibit UFO-like flight characteristics, though I suppose the horrible instant bail-outs will be patched at some point.

Perhaps the platform will adapt better to the Battle of France or the period of RAF cross-channel ops of 1941-2, but for larger scale ops in an sophisticated air defence system, WoTR isn't ticking enough boxes for me.

I'll put on my tin hat and make my way to the nearest slit trench now, in anticipation of some good-natured strafing by folks who regard the glass as half full or better and liable to improve etc etc, I can only wish that as I had hoped would be the case, I was at this point sharing in your enthusiasm rather than expressing my disappointments.
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/24/18 01:28 PM

No need for the tin hat, you make some good points mate!
I'm assuming the engine can't handle the large scale raids for this timescale during the battle, or if it can it was occurring elsewhere on the map smile
I'll certainly agree the 110's are being thrown around like single engine fighters (I've mentioned this before myself)... Historically they should be relatively easy meat to take on.
I'm certainly missing the guidance we should be getting from a sector HQ to home onto an incoming foe.

However, I will hope to see improvements as the game moves forward, and it is early days. Lots of this kind of stuff would surely follow further development, as if we are talking bombing raids over the Reich in future expansions, people will expect to see some pretty large box type formations, with accompanying fighter escort of course.

We shall wait and see biggrin
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/25/18 07:35 PM

Can't disagree with any of that, lima. I was just pointing out the comms issue, well, yesterday I think... In addition to what you said, I think the volume of fire should increase from the bombers, although maybe tighter formations would clear that up. As it is, what I like about OBD is that I have a complete product out of the box. If they folded shop tomorrow, I could still play for a long time and have fun. Plus with the current price of thirty bucks and the dearth of anything else remotely close, for me it was a no-brainer! I hope that the product will continue to grow and that most of our concerns will be addressed. I do remember the massive bomber walls of EAW and giddly hope that somehow that will prove to be possible!
Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/26/18 05:01 PM

Increase the Regional Air Activity if you want more aircraft. Heavy is now enabled. FPS may suffer of course.
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/26/18 10:11 PM

If we increase regional air activity, does this mean more aircraft throughout the map, or increase the size of the formations we are attacking?
Posted By: OldHat

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/27/18 01:34 AM

If something like JJJ's mission editor is available for this sim, you can use it to add as many aircraft as you wish without increasing the air activity. Or if you know how to edit the mission file, you can do it yourself.... assuming WOTR allows it like WOFF does.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/01/18 01:51 AM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
West Hampett.



August 1940.

We got bounced by 110's I was hit while in the landing circuit . Guess ?, the bloke followed me in from the coast. I say, he took me out in one pass. I managed to pancake and avoided being spread all over the field like strawberry jam.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/01/18 02:44 AM

carrick is back! salute
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/01/18 04:06 PM

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U have been keeping this thread alive Mr. Rawlings


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/01/18 05:30 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
West Hampett.


Aug 1940.

B flight had Patrol Duty covering the Coast : No joy.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/02/18 06:06 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
West Hampett.


Aug 1940.

Well the Sgn got Spanked today. Ops sent us off on a scramble over by Brighton. Top Hat Control indicated a 18+ Raid at 15000. B flight leader called Bombers at least 4 below and to port. Looking around I couldn't see A Flight,but did see Me 110's diving on us. Yelled Break over the RT . We never got to the bombers ( JU 88's ? ) and was scattered by the 110's. I did the old Bob and weave then had to do a split S to get clear only to run into 4 109's as they shot down me mate of A flight. After that all I could do was to spin out of the way and run for Home Base. Luckily , they did not follow. B Flight Lost 1 Hurri A Flight lost 2 Hurri's claims 0.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/03/18 05:23 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald

My God! A 5:45 scramble mission? Have these Huns no concept of civilization?!? At any rate, got a bomber down, but my shooting was terrible, no doubt because I spilled my tea in the turn...



Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/03/18 09:01 AM

lol, tea stabilisers weren't fitted untilt he Mk II.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/03/18 01:31 PM

What kind of world do we live in where one must stabilize one's own tea? dizzy Barbaric!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/03/18 04:46 PM

Tea Stabilizer ? I wonder if that is the same as a Coffee Cup Holder in a Car .
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/03/18 04:50 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
West Hampnett.

Aug 1940

Scrambled in to a heavy clouded sky 9/10 's Cover. Top cover lost 1 a/c posted as missing. We never did fine the reported e/a.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/03/18 04:54 PM

Rassendale

Night flight to the Savoy Club to see the new Show

I say, Bit of allright.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/04/18 05:04 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
WestHampnett.

Aug 1940


Ruddy Bad Morning, The Sqn was Patrolling Boxhall and mixed it up with 4 110's. I ended up chasing one to France, but lost him in clouds. I headed for Lympne AF for Juice and ran into a Bombing raid. What a way to go into battle. I had around 4 Sec's ammo. no fuel, and down at 3,000 ft. The field took some damage and I had to dodge a Hurri that was in the middle of the flight path. Spent the rest of day helping and getting a fuel browser running.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/04/18 11:47 PM

That sure is a lot of big flaming wrecks! dizzy
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/05/18 06:12 PM

A bit fight All falling down.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/05/18 06:27 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
West Hampnett.

Aug 1940

We were given the business today. Ran into Me 110's over Boxhall. All the chaps in B flight just kept hammering at em to keep our tails clear. I did spot my wingman knocking down one. No losses but had holes everywhere. 1 confirmed. Second time up was a Sqn Scramble 10 + Raid over Southhampton. Nasty fight, I damaged a Do 17 then tangled with the Me 110s. My kite took a few hits, but I got away. Over Home base , I found that my Hydraulics had been shot away so had to Pancake on the grass alongside the runway. A really hard landing, No Flaps , No Landing Gear.. Our losses were 1 Destroy ,Bailout, 1 Pancaked 40 % wrecked. 2 German Do 17s claimed.

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Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/06/18 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Trooper117
If we increase regional air activity, does this mean more aircraft throughout the map, or increase the size of the formations we are attacking?


Sorry missed this one - yes both.

We may also look closer at it in the next patch.

There are often, on heavy, around 200 aircraft in the skies.
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/06/18 11:14 AM

Ok... thumbsup
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/06/18 08:20 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
WestHampnett.

1 Damaged.

Aug 1940

As the Yanks say, I was robbed. Sqn was off at 0900 hrs checked in with Control and vectored towards Horsham a 30+ Raid. However as we corkscrewed up Sqn Leader called bandits 12 o clock high over us at Brighton. We closed on a Flight of 5 He 111's,but it was each of us to have a go one at a time. As tail End, My bloke was disappearing in the clouds so I followed alone. I fired at 800 yrds and closed the e/a fluttered then smoke 2 chutes came out and I saw the bomber crash in the channel. After landing, the Ops officer said not Confirmed. No one saw my kill , No boats in area. Headed off to the Pub ( lions and lambs ) My Rigger said I took 1 bullet in the Prop and it made a racket during the Post flight inspection.

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Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/06/18 08:33 PM

Shoot a bomber down and there is only ever two chutes seen... I think the Germans have standardised the crew compliment in all bombers to two men... must be a shortage of trained aircrew!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/07/18 04:57 PM

It may have been 2 people for 1 parachute day or 1st come 1st served. However it is well known that there was a shortage of Silk and Nylons. Horror of Horrors even Betty had to do without during WWII.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/07/18 05:51 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
WestHampnett.

1 Damaged.

Aug 1940

Sqn scramble : 10 a/c to cover Penshurst AF. We found 5 e/a near the coast dont know the Height ( My Altitude guage was u/s, I marked my Kite as Serviceable because I didnt want to spoil the party ). The e/a were low so B flight made a head on diving attack then looped and made a one 2 on one attack. I covered as P/O Rierson got a bomber then 2 Me 110's came diving down chasing off after them, I ended up over Boxhall so headed back and ran into e/a I got one using the last of my ammo. I landed at Penshurst for juice had to dodge Bomb Pot Holes on the runway , but got in ok. Claims 4 Bombers shot down + Top covers 1 Me 110. Losses 1 Hurricane Pilot Bailed out.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/08/18 05:06 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
WestHampnett.

1 Damaged.
Sept. 1940.

The Ops Officer informed me that I was 1 of 12 pilots that shot at the bomber that day. So I could have 1/12th or nothing. Nothing. If U can,t have the whole dog then what good is the tail.

Scramble: Over Esher at 15000 we encountered 10 a/c below so all 8 of us went down. The closest 6 were enemy Ju 88's I fired off Four 2 Second bursts ( No hits ) then got into a punch out with 2 Me 110's. I could not line up ,but fired a few anyway. Diving out of the Wagon wheel fight I spotted a 109 shooting down a Spitfire over Biggin Hill. Chased and closed firing off the last ammo, but the e/a got on my tail so Turn and Turn then split S ed Looking around the 109 went home so did I. Claims 2 Bombers shot down . Lost 3 Hurricanes + the Spit I saw shot down over Biggin Hill.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/09/18 05:46 PM

Rupert Rassendale
Pilot Officer, RAF
145 Sqn, B flight
Yellow 2
WestHampnett.

1 Damaged.


Sept. 1940 DECEASED SHOT DOWN KILLED OFF ROADKILL



145 had a Sqn Scramble in bad weather. P/O Rassendale was seen to get a few bursts off at a e/a bomber then getting lost and loosing contact with B flight He returned to home base. Passing over , Biggin Hill AF He got into a brawl over with 109's. His Hurricane was last seen crashing into a field . Pilot KIA.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/09/18 06:40 PM

Yikes! I guess you should have taken the dog's tail! duck
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/09/18 11:48 PM

ha ha
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/09/18 11:54 PM

Basil Heathrow
P/O 64 Sqn
Yellow 3
Kenley, AF


Aug 1940.

Signed in last night , posted to Coastal Patrol 0710 this morning. Ran into a bit of trouble with 109's The chaps Knocked down 1 ,but we lost one as well.

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Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/10/18 02:02 AM

Hey Gents, I love reading the AARs. I haven't had much time myself to fly. It would be great if you guys could include total flight hours and confirmed kills for your pilots. Maybe even show claims pending here also.
Hope everyone will consider doing this. I am off to start a new Campaign myself.

S!Blade<>< CT
Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/10/18 02:40 PM

I started Chris Wednsforth II.

Stationed: Debden

Sorry, I am lazy.

Does anyone know if we have to let all planes land to have eveyone safe at the end of a mission? See the last picture???

S!Blade<>< CT

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Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/10/18 03:08 PM

No just make sure you advance time enough to make sure your flight (B Flight) and A flight are over the middle of the channel basically between England and France and back into friendly territory. Much more important if you are German, Brits mostly don't go that far.

Patrol - make sure you make it to all patrol waypoints.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/10/18 05:45 PM

Basil Heathrow
P/O 64 Sqn
Yellow 3
Kenley, AF

Aug 1940.

B flight was scrambled for some Snoopers around the Cain Home site at South end on the Sea. I was chained to the Flight Leader and didnt get a shot. The chaps did well getting 3 Do 17 Types. All Ruddy Great Flamers.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/10/18 06:07 PM

Basil Heathrow

I ran into one of the Bofins near the base and asked about The chain home thing. Gave the impression it was some kind of " Hocus Pocus "

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/10/18 07:02 PM

When you land, you can also bump up time compression to 12x for a minute or two which can help get people back where they need to be!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/16/18 04:54 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
August 22
16 confirmed
Tumani Flying Hours!

Scramble as ze Germans are trying to destroy our Coastal Batteries and probably still will for another two days or so, I would guess... I got in with a bomber formation and started plugging away, getting and taking hits. I got a little too close and almost collided with the chap! As I pulled up, he went down leaking oil and petrol. As he was falling away, I followed him with my eyes only to see Bill Alwin from "A" flight tumbling down to shoot at the obviously doomed craft, trying to steal another kill! What a Berk! Shrugging that off, I headed off to attack the main formation and started in on another a/c, as did a bunch of my squad. He went down promptly, but not before holing all of us pretty severely! After a few minutes, my engine started to sputter and eventually seized, forcing me to put down at a nearby field. My accountant rang up and advised me to invest in Rolls-Royce. Anyway, when I got back to base, I put in for a half credit on both a/c and ended up getting all of the first one and none of the second one. So take that, Bill!


Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/17/18 01:17 AM

Bravo, U R keeping this thread together
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/17/18 05:01 AM

I wish it was more...buuuuut it's not! Soon, maybe...
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/18/18 06:12 AM

Nigel Neville
56th Squadron
North Weald
August 25
17 confirmed
3 Minutes WEP

After a few days of milk runs, enemy contact again! We flew into a big bank of bombers and I started a climb to come swooping down on them. They must of seen us because right then, the two bomber flights broke through each other and ran for home as my squad mates pounced on them. In my hesitation over whom to attack, I ended up attacking no one and instead watched as innumerable individual combats broke off in innumerably different directions. I thought I was going to go home empty handed but as I was flying off to see if any stragglers were headed for the coast, I caught a little gleam of silver out of the corner of my eye below me. I dove down hard to find myself on the tail of a single 109! He dove and twisted down and away as I strove to stay with him. He got a little bit of a lead and headed for home with me in pursuit. Shortly I looked back to see one of those rakishly good-looking Spitfires trying to join our soiree. He was going to steal my kill! Well, I poured on the WEP and was determined to slag my engine if I had to! After a while, the 109 realized he wasn't going to make it back with both of us on his tail and dove down to try to get into the ground fog and escape that way. I managed to close in the dive and fired as he tried to turn every which way. I got some good hits before momentarily losing him in the fog. As I came out, I saw his plane going down a thousand yards away to crash into some farmland. No chute was seen. I headed back to base with an undamaged engine (for once) and put in my claim. I've just received conformation and a promotion to Flight Lieutenant as well! For being worried about going home empty handed, it ended up being quite a day... 6 kills claimed by the squadron against the loss of Perkins from A flight, a good fellow to everyone who knew him.

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/21/18 02:24 AM

Mr Rawlings Ur the man Watch ur 6
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/21/18 02:46 AM

Hehe, it's my 12 that keeps causing me troubles!



Guess I should have stuck with watching the bombers from above like last time!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/22/18 05:06 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
79 Sqn
Hawinge, AF

Jul 1940.


I was Yellow 2 on a shipping sweep up at Southend on the sea. No contact.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/22/18 01:40 PM

Long may you run, Victor! cheers
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/22/18 05:48 PM

Thank U Just got over a host of problems glad to be back at EM Tails Up !
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/22/18 05:56 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
79 Sqn
Hawknge, AF

Jul 1940.


On another shipping sweep til Top Hat Control called snoopers at Angels 10 approaching the Thames. B flight made contact knocking down 1 and damaged 2 ( engines were smoking as they dove for France.) I missed mine then circled ,but too late for another go. RTB

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/23/18 04:52 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
79 Sqn
Hawinge, AF


Jul 1940.


B flight had Morning Patrol Over Shipping Lanes No enemy contact.

Afternoon flew Convoy Patrol over Convoy Jewel. No e/a sighted.

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Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/23/18 05:17 PM

Carrick, not sure what settings you have but don't forget to check the workshop page 2, new settings for flights etc, if you want more a/c around or whatever.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/24/18 04:46 AM

Thanks , Polovski will do
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/24/18 05:01 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
79 Sqn
Hawinge, AF


Jul 1940.

Bit browned off at the Brass Hats, 79 Sgn is on the move to 12 Group. All my hangouts are around London in 11 Group . I called Kitty over at the Head shed and she pulled strings and got me a posting to 17 Sqn at Debben. I caught a ride on a Army Co-op a/c then flew afternoon patrol over Folkstone.

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Posted By: Snaker

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/24/18 09:40 PM

William Smith of 145 Squadron was only 21 years of age when he expired upon returning from a mission. Witnesses say he appeared to stall out when attempting to clear a row of trees while landing. He was dead upon impact. He had flown 11 missions and had one confirmed kill to his credit. Tally Ho young man. salute
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/24/18 09:54 PM

Yikes! We barely new him! Here's to the next in line! cheers
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/24/18 10:57 PM

E gad another one bites the dust..
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/24/18 11:02 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.



Jul 1940

As flight Leader, I led Yellow Section out over Convoy " Crown " To chase away Snoopers. We spotted and attacked some Do 17 or Do 215 Types Taking out One and damaging one. My wingman Got the Kill.

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Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/25/18 02:20 AM

I will be honest, I changed the options to medium air activity,before this latest patch, and it scared me to death. I was lucky to get out and belly land at a field well away from my home base just to save my life. I don't even want to look at page 2 in the workshop for quite some time now. I am thinking the only way to live with that kind of EA activity is to climb and perform BNZ only, else end up in the fray and be chewed up by the 109s who are quite ruthless. I am not sure I have felt fear like that in any other Sim I have flown. That was a week ago and I am still contemplating whether to fly the next mission tonight or tomorrow. I can't imagine what the real pilots went through trying to stop the blitz, much less just stay alive.

S!Blade<>< CT

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/25/18 08:36 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.


Jul 1940

B flight had the duty as the other Flight was off on Training.

1st Mission: Patrol Margate: No contact

2nd Mission: Shipping Patrol While over Convoy Empress the Sqn covered as B Flt Leader shot down a Snooper then it was Back to Base and Tea.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/26/18 06:34 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.



Jul 1940

Flew 2 Standing Patrols over the coast. No Joy.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/28/18 02:22 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.


Jul 1940.


Orders came down from HQ that response time to Scrambles should be In the cockpit on Readiness ( be wheels up in 2 mins ) . if a Flap was on then 10 min and 30 min Stand by. Setting the example, I took a marvelous British invention the folding chair and placed it by my Kite. Someone said " U forgot the Table, Old Boy. The Sqn C.O. did the same then everyone else . The Old Man called Money Penny up at Sector Ops to pass the word that 17th Sqn RAF was up to standard.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 12/28/18 07:58 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.


Jul 1940


Standing Patrol over the Shipping Lanes. No Joy

B Flight was on 10 min Standby when the word came down that there was trade heading for Convoy Colony. We acted as High cover as a Section of Spitfires engaged a Flight of e/a They knocked down 2 e/a.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/01/19 09:30 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.

Jul 1940.

The chaps did well. B flight was sent up as a re-reinforcement for Convoy Sword and had a punchout with a flight of Bombers. As acting Flight Leader, I called line astern and Green section to watch for fighters as we dove into them. I got a few hits on one then dove thru them while collecting bullet hits. Spotted one e/a breaking up and going down another trailing smoke then they scattered and became lost in the clouds. I was loosing fuel so flipped over and headed for Ipswich the closest field. Landed with 30 % in the tanks as she rolled to a stop. Claims: 1 Destroyed 1 damaged. Losses: 0, 1 damaged.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/02/19 05:57 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.


29 Jul 1940

Not much to do. B flight flew 2 standing Patrols today with no joy. The C.O and A flight had training and adjusting their a/c guns to 250 yards. I am leaving mind at 300 yards convergence. The bombers that I saw were so large that its going to take a lot of 303's to knock em down. We did have an accident here at Debden some bloke hit the fire button as he landed tearing up the grass.
The station officer said " not to Moe the lawn that way again." The Sqn C.O. put out the word to check in over the RT setting guns to safe on Turning to Base on Finale

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/02/19 07:41 PM



Keeping the thread alive, carrick! Did you get confirmation on that e/a destroyed on the other mission yet?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/03/19 03:32 PM

Na, I didnt the Confirmation.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/03/19 06:23 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.


Aug 1940.


Broke up a raid this morning. The Sqn was on standing Patrol over the shipping lanes. Top Hat Control came on over the RT saying Trade for U East at Angles 12. Perfect setup Top Cover got into it with 2 Me 110.s as we engaged the Bombers. I may have Damaged one but he didnt go down. A bomber plunged pass me on fire then I joined with woody as he smoked an E/a. A Spitfire joined up with us. Off in the distance you could Me 109's fighting other Spits. We RTB. score: 2 Bombers Destroyed + 1 damaged. Losses: Bunny ( Red 3 ) took one in the leg wnd From a 110. , but got down ok.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/04/19 02:45 AM

Picture of Debden AF during the War.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/04/19 05:08 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.


Aug 1940.

On standard Patrol over the Coast Factories when A flight got bounced by 109's. Control had not reported any activity in area so it came as a surprise. B flight went to the rescue and my wing mate got a kill after I had shot at him. Then home and Tea. Score 1 to 1. We lost Leary, they took out his Hurri on the 1st pass.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/05/19 05:45 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.

Aug 1940.

A sticky wicked. B flight was on duty at 10 min Standby while A Flight had a standard Patrol. Ops scrambled our 6 a/c and Top Hat vectored us towards Dover. Boulder Dash ! As the thought of Invasion crossed my mine. We passed 46 Sqn at 10000 as they were returning from a fight 7 A/c in a very ragged formation with one smoking. The next I knew we were in a whirlwind of e/a I picked mine and shot off 3 Two sec bursts saw hits then another passed by close a Do 17. Switching to him, I fire off the rest of my ammo and Down it went. Swinging back to support the flight, I Heard and felt a series of bangs kinda like rocks on a trash can then my motor stopped. A rear gunner had done me kite in. Nothing left but to bail out. The flight scored 3 Kills Bombers. Losses 2 damaged and mine destroyed.

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Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/05/19 12:12 PM

Still the same two parachutes when you destroy a German bomber.... do you think it's a game limitation, or something that can be 'sorted' ?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/06/19 05:11 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.

2 Kills.


15 Aug 1940.


Back in the fight. After 2 days of rest, I was post to B Flight as Leader. It seems, we lost a Lt to a Me 110 while I was off after being shot down. Our 5 a/c was launched as re-reinforcements Down to Southend on the Sea. and ran into the remains of a fight between bombers and 229 Sqn. ( I saw a 229 a/c go down a flamer ) My e/a passed low and was in a damaged condition ( flying kinda side ways ) I put 183 rds each gun into the e/a and she went down smoking Cashed near Margate ? My 2nd Kill.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/07/19 03:09 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.

16 Aug 1940.

I say, Wizard of a mix up over Southend on the Sea. A regular rubarb it was with 109's and a section of Spits and 17 Sqn. I got hits on a climbing 109 then he went over and was gone. The fight got so scattered I couldnt get near another one so RTB

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/07/19 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by Trooper117
Still the same two parachutes when you destroy a German bomber.... do you think it's a game limitation, or something that can be 'sorted' ?


just a guess: can be sorted, sure it's way down the list...

carrick, you are a machine, sir!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/07/19 10:58 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.

17 Aug 1940

Bit browned off by the chain of events. B Flight was at cockpit readiness 2 min Standby and A flight was on a Picnic with Lady Wellington . She is touring the Sqn's in 11 Group boosting morale. I say, Boulder Dash ! Added to that I missed out on the Canteen truck's Tea and Biscuts. Talk about bad luck.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/08/19 05:53 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.


18 Aug 1940.

Well, they say third time is a charm.

1. Patrol Shipping lanes. No Joy
2. Patrol Brawsley ( Chain Home )
3. Convoy Patrol. My a/c cooling system went u/s at 12000ft en route to target. Waited till the Temp gauge went off the clock then Jumped. I say, hit the ground with a wack and dislocated my knee. I was taken to a local Pub and given drinks til a lorry showed up.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/09/19 01:42 AM

Just job security for the boys on the assembly line...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/10/19 05:32 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Hawkinge AF.



30 Aug 1940.


Returned from Medical leave and found the Sqn moved to the Forward Airfield at Hawkinge.
Posted to Standing Patrol over Dunwich . No contact..

We have just fueled when the flair went off from Operations Scramble. B flight was 1st to get wheels up so I checked in with Top Hat. The controller said that Bandits 30+ Angels 18, Buster Heading for Dover . Climbing, we spotted swarms of the sods above and headed in land. as we neared, 109's hits from up Sun. They scattered the whole Sqn then circled for a one on one. Mine flew around in a wheel til my shots got close then he flipped over and dove away. Upon landing , I saw one of our a/c burning. Guess his engine over heated our fuel leaked from bullet holes ? He was toast as he rolled to a stop. Score ? I saw 2 splashes in the channel The Sqn is missing 3 a/c.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/12/19 01:33 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Hawkinge AF.

Aug 31, 1940.

2 Kills
1 damaged.


I say its a wicked little game we play. Enemy a/c inbound to Gravesend angels 15, Our Sqn Leader led us up tp 18000 ft then we spotted the e/a. Blimey, There were so many, who do U attack 1st ?\\I fllow the leader and got some damage on a He 111 ( he had yellow spinners so he might have been a Gruppe leader. ) Then shot at a Ju 88 type flying in a second large group. As I pulled away to go around I had 2 109's shooting up my tail. I got off a few shots as one passed by. Then Flip turn split S Finally lost them. I Went to put down ,but short of the field at West Malling the motor stopped. Smacked down in a corn field and thru a Fence. Managed to flop out of the a/c and a passing motorcar gave me a lift to the hospital.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/12/19 02:53 AM

Was she pretty at least?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/12/19 04:53 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer


A bright spot on a rainy day more like it mate

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/12/19 07:45 PM

That would be worth *most* wounds... beercheers
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/14/19 01:09 AM

Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Hawkinge AF.

2 Kills
1 damaged

Sept 2,, 1940.

Reported back into the Sqn after Medical release. The Sqn C.O. said " Dont unpack ur Kit We are on the move back to Debden. " One of our fitters told me why. The Sqn was down to 10 machines out of 16 sent down to Hawkinge. Plus there was a bombing while the a/c were being refuel frightful mess 4 dead and 12 wnd among the ground crew and a fuel Browser.




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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/14/19 05:43 PM

Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Hawkinge AF.

2 Kills
1 damaged


3 Sept 1940.


A little mix it up over Eastchurch. Our 2 flights of 5 a/c were cover the forward airfield when vectored to a 10+ raid. B flight was led so it was go straight for it, No Escort about. My Victim swrung towards Margate and Dover so went under and came up on his tail Gave him 3 four sec bursts and parts and oil was flying off. Zoomed then lost sight of the bloke. Jolly Good. We had one crash + 2 damaged. We knocked down 4 for sure + mine ?. On the - side swingford a forward AF took a few bombs as we tagged the e/a after their Run.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/18/19 12:04 AM

Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Hawkinge AF.

4 Kills
1 damaged

Sept 4, 1940

Smashing good day. Up twice the 1st was a standard Patrol Chain Home No joy. The second a punch out with a Reported 20+ Over a forward AF at Dover. We were covering Swingfield down on the coast when Control had us on intercept for the enemy Trade. I got one although I didnt see it crash added to the bomber on the 3rd Sept I now have 4. The odd part of the mission was I only saw 2 flights of e/a but our total claims were 11 e/a destroyed . I guess that one will be for the bean counters at Hq.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/18/19 05:29 AM

Good show!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/18/19 04:24 PM

I say old man, A piece of Cake.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/19/19 11:39 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.

4 kills
1 damaged


5 Sep 1940.

Morning Parade : Awarded the Air Force Medal.

Afternoon: Scramble Trade at angels 12 just south of London. The Sqn had 8 a/c up. B flights 4 a/c managed an intercept a 10 + flight of Bombers. The lead a/c our Flight Lt. knocked one down. I made 2 passes and couldn't hit a sausage. The rest missed as well or maybe damaged one e/a ?

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/20/19 05:46 AM

Well, I am sure they at least needed a new pair of pants when they got back...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/23/19 12:48 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden AF.

4 kills
2 damaged

7 Sep 1940.

Bit of luck, B flight was at cockpit readiness when the flap started. Off our six a/c went to orbit above Croydon AF, when the flight leader called Tallyho ! There 2000 feet lower , I spotted Two Flights of
Do 17's. We attack in line abreast massing our fire power then zoomed thru then scattering. I fire at 2 a/c damaging the last one. Them out of ammo, I passed under 9 or 12 He III types taking a few hits . I made a emergency landing at Kenley checking damage the topped off the fuel and RTB. The chaps claimed 5 bombers for 1 Hurricane lost a chap named Billings.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/23/19 01:01 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flt Officer


8 sep 1940

B flight had standing patrol. No joy.

Late in the day. A personal Aid to the Ministry of Finance In a Shiny Automobile popped by to pick up Sqn Leader A.G. Miller for a Hurricane Fund Rising Dinner at the P.M.'s I say , Smashing nice ride.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/24/19 04:47 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden, AF.

4 Kills
3 damaged


10 Sep 1940.


I lost another Hurricane today. The C.O. said one more and I make a German Ace. The Sqn was at 18,000 and caught 9-12 bombers Escorted by 6 109's Managed to fend off the fighters and get at the bombers. I shot at 3 the last one I got hits then I caught a bunch of Nasty hits all over the Nose of my kite. The gauges went off the clock as the Temp's screamed red hot ., The cooling system had been shot away' Off to port I could see a Yellow Nose bandit heading over to finish me off so I bailed. I say , cheated him out of a sitting duck.




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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/28/19 02:03 PM

Harry Mallo
17th Squadron
Debden
1st Mission
July 19, 1940

Well. Three months ago, I was driving a lorry for the Army when a couple of chaps came up to me and asked me what 3D means. I said "Forwards, Backwards, Left, Right.... and Up." They said "You're going to make a great pilot, old sport!" And here I am! My first combat mission was a scramble against incoming bombers! We were vectored south-east to the mouth of the channel to intercept aircraft coming in from Calais. When the Tally-Ho came, it was on a small flight of medium bombers, probably having broken off from a larger group. They were so small, in fact, that we must have missed them on our initial go-round, as they were almost on our ships whn we finally caught up. I took a pass at one, closing fast and gave him a burst or two at short range. As I pulled up, my wingman, a decent chap by the name of Lathram, came in and sent it spiraling down to the waters below. Two chutes! Quite an exiting bit of combat for my first day active, I must say!

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/28/19 09:43 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden, AF.


12 Sep 1940

I was Acting B flight leader for a tour over 2 Gp Bomber Command AF at Ipswich. No Joy

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/29/19 06:23 AM

Harry Mallo
17th Squadron
Debden
July 23

1 Claim
+2 min WEP

Put in my first claim today. Another scramble down to the SE, it's all we get lately. As I went to start up the engine, I accidentally let slip "Split formation!" over the comms, which is of course what I say instead of cursing... Well wouldn't you know that after that the rest of my flight wouldn't even talk to me for the duration of the mission? Unbelievable! It's like I hit some key by mistake that rendered me invisible to them for the rest of the flight or something...
Anyway, I made my way on my own down to the coast and established a pattern at a comfortable remove from the rest of the squadron and waited for the fun to begin. It was about fifteen minutes until the call of "Bandits below us!" rang out. I never did see the bombers, although I did spot a couple of stricken ships later on, but I managed to attach myself to the tail of a 109 attacking "A" flight. He twisted and turned and spun away as I sent a tremendous volume of rifle rounds his way until we were down to about 1000 feet out over the middle of the channel. At that point his engine quit on him and he settled into a rather smooth water landing. I gave him a wave and radioed in his location before heading back to file a claim, which I have just done!


Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/29/19 12:19 PM

Good scrap!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/29/19 01:47 PM

Thanks, I was trying out some new adjustments to my TrackIR profile, which I didn't like, so l felt like I was fighting my view as well as the enemy!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/29/19 05:38 PM

Nice vid. U were in a good little scrap.
Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/29/19 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Rick_Rawlings
Harry Mallo
17th Squadron
Debden
July 23

1 Claim
+2 min WEP

Put in my first claim today. Another scramble down to the SE, it's all we get lately. As I went to start up the engine, I accidentally let slip "Split formation!" over the comms, which is of course what I say instead of cursing... Well wouldn't you know that after that the rest of my flight wouldn't even talk to me for the duration of the mission? Unbelievable! It's like I hit some key by mistake that rendered me invisible to them for the rest of the flight or something...
Anyway, I made my way on my own down to the coast and established a pattern at a comfortable remove from the rest of the squadron and waited for the fun to begin. It was about fifteen minutes until the call of "Bandits below us!" rang out. I never did see the bombers, although I did spot a couple of stricken ships later on, but I managed to attach myself to the tail of a 109 attacking "A" flight. He twisted and turned and spun away as I sent a tremendous volume of rifle rounds his way until we were down to about 1000 feet out over the middle of the channel. At that point his engine quit on him and he settled into a rather smooth water landing. I gave him a wave and radioed in his location before heading back to file a claim, which I have just done!


Really nice Rick and a good fight. I am guessing you noticed your mixture was to rich right before the 6:00 mark as I kept watching your 3000rpm and 0 boost and yelling at you "adjust your mixture! Lean it out Mate!" hahaha
I am not that great of a Sim pilot but I will share this with you: If you use the Prop pitch on an analog slide or rotary you can bring your RPMs back to like 2600rpm and achieve 250+ mph in level flight with cooler temps for the engine. I was yelling this at you when you were chasing down the 109 in level flight. hahaha I have read that some of the pilots learned that instead of using the Prop Pitch Lever either full fine or full course that they could move it in the middle between the 2 positions and achieve these results in the real Hurricane. I am not sure if this is Historically true or not, but it does work in WOTR. It is just FYI, take it or leave it. Again, nice fight vid Sir. salute
You have inspired me to fire up WOTR instead being lazy tonight and watching a movie.
S!Blade<><
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/30/19 12:21 AM

Yeah, I need to take some time and set up my stick better. I usually have so little time I just want to jump right into the mission, but point taken!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/30/19 11:49 PM

Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden, AF.

5 Destroyed
3 damaged

Sep 15th 1940.


Its a regular Meat Grinder out there. Up twice on scrambles over the London Docks. During the 1st one , A 30+ Raid, I was firing at a bomber ( Hits ? ) when Me 110's came down. I turned to port and chase one when a 109 passed under me low and all alone so Bounced him Sparks flew then fire. I saw a chute come out. Out of ammo I dove out of the fight and RTB. On the 2nd flight, I attacked 2 flights of Bombers escorted by Me 110's. I ended up playing tag with two till I could brake free. Claims, 2 109's ( 1 is mine) 5 Bombers, 1 Me 110. Losses: 4 Pilots KIA. 1 Badly Wnd. All 5 a/c are write offs. + Mine with a few holes.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/31/19 01:12 AM

Quite a party! Love those shell casings tumbling down in the second pic!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 01/31/19 08:13 PM


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 02/01/19 10:50 PM

Flight Officer
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden, AF.


16 Sep 1940.


We had 8 a/c for the morning Scramble. We were over London mixing it with 30+ I called Line astern and down we went at full power. Green Section called Fighters coming down as we machine gun the second flight of Bombers then it was circle and Ring around Rosy till we could get clear. On the second flight B flight's 5 a/c hit an 18+ raid no joy for me but saw shuts come down. We lost 1 hurricane + 1 damaged
3 bombers destroyed. Afternoon , The Sqn Leader said good work and I was officially an Ace.

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Posted By: PO_Klonko

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/03/19 06:43 PM

Pilot Officer Klonko
54 Squadron B Flight
RAF Hornchurch

20.07.1940 0900hrs

Scrambled to intercept an enemy raid heading for a convoy in the Thames estuary. Heading out from Hornchurch the weather was very cloudy and it looked like the Squadron was going to be heading into a storm. We reached the vector at Angels 16, the Flight Leader bringing B flight into a position to scan the area. Minutes later the Tally Ho went out- four Ju88s were spotted, approximately 5,000 ft below us. The clouds silhouetted the small enemy formation heading for our convoy.

We dived to attack, with my flight mates quickly dispatching the 88s. I managed to get off a quick burst into one of the machines before the crew hit the silk. Whether or not it was my attack, or a previous attack that had caused them to bail is unclear. I put in a claim anyway.

During the melee, I was separated from my Flight and wingman. While scanning the skies for my formation, I spotted a group of Spitfires going into the attack. 2,000 ft above, a formation of around six 109s had dived in to attack. I soon found myself in the middle of a dogfight, with 109s and Spitfires twisting and turning around me. I got off a short burst at two of the 109s and decided to make a break for home. Just as I set course for home I was bounced by a 109, who must have dived on me from behind. The first thing I knew of the 109s presence were ribbons of tracer streaking past my Hurricane's port side. The bullets and cannon shells smashing into my engine. Flame erupted from the port side exhaust, and 'plane started to feel uneven in pitch. Luckily the fire didn't take hold, and I was able to Split-S away from the 109.

As I was hobbling along, trying to make the safety of the closest friendly airfield, I caught glimpse of the 109 coming around for another go. This time his burst of fire missed me but he stayed on my tail for some time before breaking contact and flying South. I engaged WEP and dived for the coast.

Just as I passed over the coast the Oil temperature had hit maximum on the gauge and the engine quit. I made a belly landing in a farmer's field, managing to keep the wings on this time, but the plane was still a write-off.

It was a long walk back to Hornchurch!


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Posted By: PO_Klonko

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/03/19 08:08 PM

Sorry for the double post, but I just had to provide an update.

Pilot Officer Klonko
54 Squadron B Flight
RAF Hornchurch

22.07.1940 1300hrs

Standard patrol to cover shipping channels. Uneventful, other than the Flight Leader bringing us well over the channel into France. A few bursts of flak struck amongst B flight but, luckily, caused no damage.
We made it back to blighty without spotting any enemy aircraft. The Luftwaffe probably thought it wise not to put up in such bad weather!

Upon returning to Hornchurch we all entered the landing circuit, at which point I felt an uncontrollable urge to abandon ship and leave my cockpit for a spot of fresh air. I jumped out of my Hurricane for reasons unknown (I accidentally pressed the 'O' key), the silk canopy unravelling and suspending me in the damp stormy weather.

The Squadron Commander isn't too pleased.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/03/19 11:04 PM

good one
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/04/19 03:01 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer, DFC
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden, AF.


15 Sep 1940.


Sqn Scramble into the muck of a rain soaked morning, to counter Hostile 7 a 18+ raid at Angles 15, South of London. We could see the bombers, but as we approached the fighters fell on us then its everyone for himself. I got off a squirt at a 109 ,but missed by a mile then lost everyone in the muck. Finally joined up with 2 Hurricanes and RTB. We put up 9 machines but lost one. Pilot bailed over London.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/04/19 05:35 AM

Right back at it, carrick!
Posted By: PO_Klonko

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/04/19 04:12 PM

Flying Officer Klonko
54 Squadron B Flight
Hornchurch AF

27 July 1940 0800 hrs- Patrol

Approximately 3 minutes after takeoff the Hurricanes of Flying Officers Chris Klonko and Ethan Bowne collided. Both pilots were killed.

Flying Officer Klonko had gained eight victories during 15 operational sorties while flying with 54 Squadron and was recently awarded the Air Force Cross. He leaves behind his Wife, Dorothy, and children Oliver and Sarah. He will be sorely missed.



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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/04/19 11:29 PM

Ouch, I know how you feel!
Posted By: PO_Klonko

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/05/19 09:27 AM

I was genuinely saddened. I'm so used to just replaying the mission and continuing with a career in other sims that the death of my pilot came as quite a shock.

I have to say, in all my years of combat flight simming this is the only sim where I've felt a genuine connection with the Squadron and the others in the flight, and have been keen to defend them in the skies. I've watched in horror as on the approach to the home airfield, one of my flight mates started trailing smoke and eventually dropped out of formation. He managed to bail out (phew!). That is the first time I've ever seen an AI pilot suffer random engine failure in game. There was also one occasion where my wingman was was posted as missing, presumed killed. With much relief he managed to make it back to the Squadron and return to flying my wing, only to be killed by the enemy on the day he returned.

I'm well impressed with the WOtR! I've never flown missions from start to finish with as much enthusiasm, or felt the adrenaline pump when in a dogfight; my main aim being to survive and return to base. Excellent stuff.
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/05/19 12:57 PM

When I get killed in career, I start my next pilot in the same squadron, start date 1 week after my last pilot died... then I can believe I am the replacement pilot freshly arrived.
Sometimes I start at the lowest rank again, sometimes at the same rank as the last pilot that died.
That way I can stay with my favourite Squadron all the way through a campaign biggrin
Posted By: PO_Klonko

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/05/19 01:59 PM

Now that's a good idea! I'm going to do that with F/O Klonko's former Squadron!
Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/05/19 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by PO_Klonko
I was genuinely saddened. I'm so used to just replaying the mission and continuing with a career in other sims that the death of my pilot came as quite a shock.

I have to say, in all my years of combat flight simming this is the only sim where I've felt a genuine connection with the Squadron and the others in the flight, and have been keen to defend them in the skies. I've watched in horror as on the approach to the home airfield, one of my flight mates started trailing smoke and eventually dropped out of formation. He managed to bail out (phew!). That is the first time I've ever seen an AI pilot suffer random engine failure in game. There was also one occasion where my wingman was was posted as missing, presumed killed. With much relief he managed to make it back to the Squadron and return to flying my wing, only to be killed by the enemy on the day he returned.

I'm well impressed with the WOtR! I've never flown missions from start to finish with as much enthusiasm, or felt the adrenaline pump when in a dogfight; my main aim being to survive and return to base. Excellent stuff.




Great reports by everyone,I love reading them when I have a spare 5 mins.

@PO_Klonko this is what OBD sims has in spades..immersion,"maybe" other sims have better fm,s or dm,s but none IMO have the immersion of WOTR or WOFF. If you have any interest in WW1 pal I highly recommend WOFF and at the current price for nearly 80 flyables it's a absolute steal. You genuinely do care in these sims for your wingman/squadmates. I've flown hundreds of hrs in WOFF and tens of hrs in WOTR and it still gets me when I lose one of my guys. I've often sat on the WW1 airfields in WOFF waiting for the last man to limp home,it's incredible at times. These sims to me are the only ones that capture the "spirit" of my old sims from my teen yrs.

If you enjoy reading reports have a nosy at the reports over on the WOFF forum..there's some great stories there especially in the DID deep immersive campaign thread,anyway I'm glad your enjoying WOTR,take care pal.
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/05/19 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by PO_Klonko
Flying Officer Klonko
54 Squadron B Flight
Hornchurch AF

27 July 1940 0800 hrs- Patrol

Approximately 3 minutes after takeoff the Hurricanes of Flying Officers Chris Klonko and Ethan Bowne collided. Both pilots were killed.

Flying Officer Klonko had gained eight victories during 15 operational sorties while flying with 54 Squadron and was recently awarded the Air Force Cross. He leaves behind his Wife, Dorothy, and children Oliver and Sarah. He will be sorely missed.



Bad luck there! 54 Squadron should be flying Spitfires, though; it was the squadron Al Deere served in at that time, moving back north from Hornchurch to Catterick for a rest about the day of your report. I think I still have the Hasegawa 1/72 kit I built years back of his Spit KL-B, 'Kiwi', in a box in the loft.
Posted By: PO_Klonko

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/05/19 09:31 PM

Cheers Adger.

I am very much tempted to get WOFF!
WOTR reminds me very much of Rowan's Battle of Britain (BOBII) and B17: The Mighty Eighth. Two games that really immersed you and made you feel part of something much bigger.

Thanks for the additional info @33lima, I did a quick Google of 54 Squadron when I started the game and found it strange they were flying Hurris. Hopefully they'll receive their quota of Spitfires very soon biggrin
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/08/19 02:35 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer, DFC
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden, AF.

6 e/a destroyed
3 Damaged


16 Sep 1940

I told the Intelligence Officer , Make no mistake about it I got a Me 110 today then got off the remaining ammo at a passing 110. I did see my wingman get one too. The Sqn's 7 a/c intercepted Hostile 37 at Angles 15 over Kingston. Never got thru the Escort, but had a field day Claiming 5 for 1 loss + 1 pilot wnd Albeit most of us found holes in our kites after the ruckus.

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Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/08/19 10:57 AM

That's a ''confirmed''... good job!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/08/19 09:53 PM

Thanks Trooper
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/08/19 10:03 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer, DFC
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden, AF.

17 Sep 1940.

6 e/a destroyed
4 Damaged


The sqn was vectored by Pine tree Control to bounce 2 Flights of e/a south of London at Angles 20. Over the RT you could hear the Sqn Leader saying Help yourself, no fighter Escort . I RT to green flight and yellow flight to stay tight and follow me in. I took the starboard flight of 6-9 e/a and banged away then up and around for a 2nd go at the Jerrys. I got the engine of one then came the hiss of empty guns. Rolled over and dove for home. No loss to our 8 attacking a/c ,but 3 damaged. Claims 2 destroyed + mine Damaged.

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Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/09/19 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Adger
These sims to me are the only ones that capture the "spirit" of my old sims from my teen yrs.


+1 For me it was my late 20s into early 30s, but I agree OBD's sims do hook one's spirit of caring about your flight and real you in with the days AAR of what has happened. IMHO this only happens because there is such a good AI(not perfect, but best in the business right now) and good fight challenge in differing evolving situations.

Nice reports all I really enjoy reading them. Flew 2 missions last night myself, but no time to write AARs really.

S!Blade<><
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/11/19 01:42 AM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer, DFC


Sep 18,, 1940. Took time off and went into London Town, Cut a rug at the Palace Dance Hall. Then onward to the Savoy to better understand the performing Arts.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/12/19 09:40 PM

Victor Barbercane
Flight Officer, DFC, MC.
Yellow Section
17 Sqn B Flt
Debden, AF.


19 Sep 1940. KIA DECEASED KA PUT ATE THE BIG ONE

Bit of bad luck, B flights 5 a/c led by Victor went head to head with the Escort Me 110's after a wild turn and burn some 109's dropped down from up sun. ( Nice free for all with engines roaring mg firing and the staccato of 20 mm's. Victor took a few 20mm hits started to smoke then a 109 came even closer and banged away, Fire and Red all over. Too late to Bail Pilot KIA.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/12/19 10:39 PM

Yikes! That's a shame, carrick, you were having a great run with Victor! You know what they say, though? New plane skin for a new pilot... duck
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/13/19 09:29 AM

Bad luck mate!
Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/15/19 05:50 PM

Not good Carrick. Sorry to here. Time to start another I suppose. sigh

S!Blade<><
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/16/19 01:13 AM

Bummer, Even the pilot name seemed good.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/16/19 01:42 AM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald


8 Aug 1940.

Arrived last night and posted to Patrol. B flight had 6 a/c ready and I was assigned to E for Evade. an older well used model, but she flys.
We ran into some e/a and got to mix it up with the German two engine models. The C.O. said good show as the leader reported knocking down one.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/16/19 07:28 PM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald


Aug 9, 1940.


Standing Patrol over Southend. No contact.

Afternoon: Lady Fenwick show up for Tea and crumpets with the Staff.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/17/19 06:07 PM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald

15 Aug 1940.

Sqn Scramble over Southend on the Sea. Notified late,. the Snoopers were chased away by a section of Spits. We spotted the Spits returning widely separated so there must have been a fight. Our 10 a/c RTB

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/18/19 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by carrick58
Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald


Aug 9, 1940.


Standing Patrol over Southend. No contact.

Afternoon: Lady Fenwick show up for Tea and crumpets with the Staff.

Did you tell her her hat was too small?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/18/19 05:09 PM

Alas Not being Staff, I wasn't asked to attend the Tea party.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/18/19 05:13 PM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald

17 Aug 1940.

Standing Patrol by Harwhich: Ran into 2 109's my wingmates downed both. I can a test to Fat Jack my wing man's kill. the 109 was doing 180's with me as Jack slipped in on his tail and took off his wing tip. The cloud and Muck was so thick that I had to land at Detling I couldnt get in at N orth Weald.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/19/19 10:51 PM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald


18 Aug 1940.


Standing Patrol over Southend on the Sea. No Joy. I had my riggers redo the ammo belts with AP on the inter most guns the 303 Ball with A Tracer every 10th rd. for the rest of the Mg's.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/22/19 07:54 PM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF


Aug 20, 1940.

B flight was ordered up on a scramble at around Noon. Pine Tree Control vectored us over Canterbury to a flight of snoopers. Do 17's. I never seemed to get to the right spot so ended up taking long shots Damage ? The Flight claimed 2 e/a for no losses although we had 4 Hurr's damaged.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/22/19 08:40 PM

Nice water reflection on the top picture, took me a minute to figure out what was going on there!
Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/22/19 11:48 PM

Really enjoying reading your reports Carrick cheers
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/23/19 02:08 PM

Harry Bloke
17 Squadron
Debden
July 12

1confirmed

Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/23/19 04:05 PM

Nice clip, Rick. Your shooting is better than mine, too!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/23/19 05:42 PM

salute
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/24/19 09:31 PM

Well done , Old Chap.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/24/19 10:05 PM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald

Aug 21, 1940.


I had time off after pulling duty Officer so after helping the riggers with my kite . I popped over and got a tram to the Hurr shadow factory where my sister works. A nice work environment.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/25/19 01:56 AM

Harry Bloke
17 Squadron
A flight (no, just kidding! Still B; someone should write a song about it...)
Debden
July 13

1 Confirmed
1 Claimed



Ran into some Dorniers, I believe. I went after the loner who broke off from the main flight and caught up with him headed SE at 13,500 feet. The gunners were dynamite and gave as good as they got, a pity only two of the crew made it out... We lost Rowles from A flight, I didn't see what happened but apparently he was hit by one of the other bombers and never bailed out.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/26/19 01:34 AM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald

22 Aug 1840.

B flight patrolled over Eastbourne till Bingo Fuel then RTB. No joy

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/26/19 04:44 AM

No joy, maybe, but a great moody picture for sure! salute
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/26/19 07:17 PM

Wizard, Old Man simply Wizard.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/26/19 07:43 PM

Colin Harvey
P/O. B Flt
151 Sqn, RAF
North Weald


Sept 8, 1940.

151 Sqn is on the move. We are being pulled out of the line.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/26/19 08:32 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

8 Aug 1940.


Boulder Dash, shot down on my 1st Flight. I was posted over to 213 Sqn from a Operational Training Unit along with 2 other replacement pilots. Being Senior in flight time and time in grade I was given the Acting Leader spot. We were at 10000 ft over Ventor when Me 110's dropped on us out of the clouds. Then it was a mix up. I popped away at one then looped and turn for another run at the sods, I took hits from a rear gunner ? and fuel pressure dropped the the motor stopped. sense the ailerons felt like lead, I went over the side.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/29/19 12:04 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

28 Aug 1940.

Sqn scramble to cover forward airfields. I say, Swarms of e/a, wing flashes high up ( fighters ? ) spotted a least 2 flights of 6 or 9 machines then it was into them. Fired numerous times ,But hits ? then the Yellow nose boys were among us and firing along with Me 110's. One on my tail doing rolls as he fired more hits. Flipped over and ran for it. The e/a didnt follow me. Over Shoreham , I made a emergency landing.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 03/30/19 08:13 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

30 Aug 1940

Over Ford AF chasing Hostile 19, The Yellow Nosed boys flashed by as I avoided , spotting 2 Flights of Bombers. I made the 1st pass in a dive then turn and turn again for firing passes going thru the e/a my guns emptied out. Flipped over and dove as more 109's came down. RTB with damage. The Sqn claimed 2 shot down for 1 Hurricane from A Flight was lost.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/02/19 01:41 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

1 Sep 1940

Sqn Scarmble to cover Hornchurch, Big punch out with Hostile 44 a 30+ Raid. B flight went straight at it. A flight mixed it 2 flights of fighters Me 110 ? We knocked down 3 including mine a He 111. + 2 more smoking as they departed the area. The Sqn had 4 a/c damaged As for me, I got shot up in the melee so was going into West Malling to check. On short final, My gear would not lower and my Hydraulics must have been shot away because the flaps would not come down. The kite bounced and skidded but finally stopped as she plowed up the field next to the main Runway. The Station Commander was not happy.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/02/19 02:07 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


Later that day, I rented a Lorrie from a Garage attendant in Town and motored to the Bomber Crash site.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/02/19 04:24 AM

That is not the Rosie the riveter that I remember...
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/02/19 10:17 AM

No, that's Suzy Crutchthrust...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/03/19 12:18 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

.4 Sep 1940.

The maintenance chaps put " G " for get Away back together for todays Melee's. Up on standing Patrol over the coast and ran into 2 109's Pinetree control hadnt reported any bandits so must have came in low then climbed and ran into us. Frightful scatter about then chased 1/2 way to France. Mid day a scramble toward Hendon, but ran into a flock of Me 110's no kills B flight had 3 a/c with a lot of holes.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/03/19 07:26 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

8 Sept 1940.

B flight had 10 min Readiness so we were next to the machines as the Flair gun went off. As our a/c's wheels came up U could hear the Flight Leader talking to Pine Tree. Buster , angels, 15 heading towards London. from the East. After awhile , we spotted 30+ Lower and off to port. Ju 88's and He 111's . Yellow section Leader called to turn and duct attacking the 2 flights. Green section stay high in case of snappers then follow us same target. I heard Yellow 2 talking to Green 1 If Pinetree was aware that we were only 5 a/c Then we were among them firing at all. Thru the 88's thru the He111's then more 88's and out the side guns empty. Claims 2 bombers. 3 Hurricanes damaged + 1 pilot wnd ( badly ). I put down at Hornchurch to check on the New a/c coming on line the Spitfire A perfect a/c she looks like shes flying when sitting on the ground.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/03/19 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by carrick58
I put down at Hornchurch to check on the New a/c coming on line the Spitfire A perfect a/c she looks like shes flying when sitting on the ground.



Not long now, I think!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/04/19 06:18 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


10 Sep 1940.

What a wicked game, every where bombers over London . Yellow Section took the lower flight then up headlong into the second flight. Our cover flight of 4 tried to keep the 109,s off us. By the end of the Firing run, I had a Snapper on my tail and took hits. I went into a field of Barrage Balloons to shake him. A massive ball of flame appeared behind me. He had fired on or ran into a Balloon. I didnt see him after that. The Sqn claimed 2 bombers. but lost a fighter + 4 damaged. I had to pancake mine at Stapleford AF. It was just shot to bits and wouldnt stay in the air.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/06/19 12:44 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

11 Sep 1940.


I was helping around the Hanger since my kite " G " for Give Away was still being put back together. Around Tea Time, a trans port came in with dispatches and spare parts that were much needed. I hiked over to chat with the pilot while the riggers off loaded.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/06/19 02:49 AM

Some guys have all the luck...these:
[Linked Image]

are the kinds of pilots I always run into...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/06/19 03:43 PM

Wild Bill was , perhaps, the greatest Combat pilot of his Era. His can do attitude was a bold demonstration in skies above L. A., California. against a non existing enemy. I can only add my kudos to a comment made by someone coming out of a theater watching the Movie Dumbo that there goes the crazy-ist Son of a %^$# I ve ever seen.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/09/19 01:27 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


14 Sep 1940.

Posted as the C.O.'s wingman , We flew 1/2 Sqn as Back up over London incase a heavy attack developed. It did not so we RTB

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Posted By: JonRedcorn

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/09/19 10:23 AM

Bright and enthusiastic Hans Gruber
Jg 20
First flight attacking ships in the channel

August 24th 1940

Overboosted engine died in the channel

Pray for hans.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/09/19 12:39 PM

Godspeed, Hans!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/09/19 08:58 PM

#%&*$# that sounds like my early flight in WOFF except theres no attacking ships. Just up down then Up down into trees Dead.
Posted By: JonRedcorn

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/09/19 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by carrick58
#%&*$# that sounds like my early flight in WOFF except theres no attacking ships. Just up down then Up down into trees Dead.

It was actually my first campaign mission with action, I got separated from my flight, was running wep too long I guess, engine wouldn't put out more than almost idle manifold pressure, dove into the ocean. My other campaign was just a bunch of boring patrol flights, that was JG52, this campaign was a lot more exciting it seemed, going to try my next one during the airfield raids and I am sure that will be a good one.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/10/19 01:32 AM

The Airfield Raids R a nice starting place then it accelerates. Good Luck
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/10/19 01:50 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


15 Sep 1940.

The day of Days. I got two of the buggers. Sqn scramble to intercept Hostile One Four heading towards London via Manston. Soon it was buster 60+ then 2 Sqns of Hurries hit em. as we approached the area. Flight Leader called 2 flights Ju 88's ? Port, Low. Red section took on the snappers Higher up Yellow and Green hit the bombers. A field day. We knocked down 5 Bombers confirmed + damage to others and maybe a 109. The Bill was 2 Hurricanes destroyed + 4 damaged Including mine ( 5 hole thru wings ). I fired at thee e/a's getting hits on one ( he was seen to crash ) then an e/a passed in front so carving the turn it was Hammer Time. Smoke puked out of an engine then both of the Fans stopped nosing over and down after a short time chutes came out.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/10/19 07:37 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


Sep 16 1940.

After doing a standard Patrol I was off from Ops so went over to the town to see about renting a Lorrie from the attendant at Nigel's Tire and Garage. and drive to one of the crash sites for a souvenir. Blasted wreck was almost picked clean

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/11/19 05:59 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


17 Sep 1940.


Scrambled Late for a party of 60+ heading for London. By the time 213 Sqn's 9 a/c reached the area the fight was over. Pine tree Control said to RTB. Barely pancaked when the rains closed in about us.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/13/19 10:22 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


18 Sep 1940.

Scrambled for Snoopers along the Coast thru London East End. Engaged 9-12 ? Me 110s with our 5 a/c Flight. A real punch out. We lost Freddy when a 110 blew him up, we knocked down two for sure near Esher. One may have been mine. I was nailing one when 3 of my 8 guns jammed up. The e/a went vertical then end over end into the clouds. My attentions were diverted as another 110 put holes in my Hurri so split E ssed out of there. I couldnt get back to Tangmere due to clouds down to the deck so landed at Red Hill for A/c juice and Tea.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/13/19 10:56 PM

Sqn Debriefing
213 Sgn 1700 Hrs 18 Sep 1940

Green 2 P/O Robinson got a pic of one of the e/a's in the fight. Passed it on to the Intelligence Boys at the Head Shed at Wing.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/14/19 01:24 PM

Robinson is a cool and steady camera hand when faced with the enemy, is that one! salute
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/14/19 04:00 PM

He drinks mostly on the ground
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/15/19 12:10 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

20 Sep 1914.

Standard Patrol: No contact.

Later went over to the Royal Flush to hear the New Singer.

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Posted By: JonRedcorn

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/15/19 12:43 AM

Philip Grimwald
Squadron pilot

8th Aug 1940

First flight, fantastic mission, squadron took off to intercept the jerry in our shiny Mk1a spits, downed two he111's, suffered minor damage to landing gear and was able to land back at base with the gear down 98% of the way. What a smashing success!

Second flight, routine patrol over our convoys by Dover, ran into some 109's sadly, Flew straight into the back of a 109 chasing my squadron leader, plane blew into pieces, was too injured to bail out and died in the crash as the spit plummeted from 14k feet.

RIP

These RAF pilots don't last long!

The spits an absolute joy to fly. Loving it, figured out the auto pilot and increase speed buttons so patrol missions are fine now, just wish I could make it past the first day of my enlistment!

On to the next young buck.
Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/15/19 12:53 AM

Great reports lads,it's brilliant to see some new faces here. Work has kept me from flying much but I should have some free time this week to take the Spit for a real spin. Hailing from Stoke on Trent the birthplace of R.J Mitchell I have a great love of the Spit. I'm hoping to get a report and pics soon guys.
Posted By: JonRedcorn

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/15/19 09:59 AM

I will definitely try and get some pictures of the next one.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/15/19 11:56 PM

I say, Well done old man.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/16/19 05:47 AM

Bill Oarley
RAF 65 Hornchurch
July 12, 1940

Second day on the job. Yesterday our patrol was uneventful, but it gave me a good chance to get a feel for the tension of waiting...waiting for combat. Today the waiting stopped. We weren't expecting trouble, but after circling around down by the Ilse of Sheppy, Leader called out Bandits, 12 O'Clock!
It was several 110s, already scattered from dropping their bombs on the ships below. To my horror, I saw cargo vessels go up in flames and huge spouts of water as they were hit! Trying to remember my training, I grit my teeth together and jumped into the fray! As I ... oh, I am not the typist that 33lima is, I will let the video do the rest of the talking...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/16/19 05:33 PM

Enjoyed ur Vid
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/16/19 06:07 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

21 Sep 1940.


Standard Patrol Over the Thames. Our sgn was vectored to Hostile 55 a 30 + Raid. The Sgn Leader leads us to a spot in between 2 flights of bombers below and Yellow nosed Snappers above. Soon Yellow and green sections were in the cross fire. I couldnt hit a sausage that day ,but banked at any 109 that passed me by. My mates , got 2 confirmed Yellow Nosed Boys + 2 bombers ? Total 4. Losses 5 damaged with 1 pilot wnd.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/16/19 08:58 PM

Quite the party there!
Posted By: JonRedcorn

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/17/19 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Rick_Rawlings
Quite the party there!

That video was awesome great kill on the 110, the splash was 10/10.

Quick tip, reduce your mixture at high altitudes to get full power, the higher you go the lower you have to run, in real life I believe the spit only had auto rich and auto lean as an option, but that's how it works here.

Also use war emergency power on takeoff and in the dogfight to get the full 12lbs of boost!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/18/19 10:36 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


22 Sep 1940.


The Sqn got into it over London at least 2 flights of bombers Ju's and He's + Snappers 8- 12 e/a. Myself and wingman ( Roger More ) We were able to make 2 passes then Roger's Hurricane caught fire and he road it down ( No Chute ) I took at least a dozen hits . G for George stayed in the so I air tried to make Hendon AF. On short Finale, the Hydraulics went out so hit hard and skidded all over the field. Sgn total 0 for 2 Hurricanes destroyed.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/18/19 10:59 PM

Any landing...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/19/19 03:44 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


23 Sep 1940.


The Station Commander fixed me up to be posted to Tangmere on the dispatch a/c. It was over 2 hrs late but headed back to the Sqn.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/21/19 11:18 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF


25 Sep 1940.

The Sqn C.O. assigned aircraft " H " for Hauling @@# as my kite. B flight had the standing Patrol over London Factories. Vectored into Bandits near the East End. The e/a turned into 8-12 Me 110's below at 15000. I called line abreast and down we went nicely done drill. The Flight destroyed one a/c. Mine was heavy damage I hit him and my wing man hit him on the first pass then I came back around and him again The 303's Roared Dust popped up along his wing, engine, and fuselage, then he wobbled and flipped over after that I lost sight as his buddies hit my machine with fire. I split SS ed out of the fight and landed at Biggin Hill to check damage. Nasty looking holes along the tail and port wing with a larger hole near the wing Roundel The Sqn's second flight that day was worst as they lost 2 Hurricanes from A flight.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/27/19 10:59 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

28 Sep 1940.

B Flight was scrambled late for a 60+ party over London. Raid 147 was already scattered by 2 Sgns of Hurricanes. Pinetree Control told us to RTB.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/28/19 09:10 PM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF
3 Kills.

29 Sep 1940

The Sgn knocked down three of the buggers today. One of them was mine. My 3rd e/a destroyed a Ju 88. We caught them after the Raid was hit by a Spitfire Sqn, A few straggling Spites came out of the direction as we went in. Spotted a few Yellow nosed Boys higher up, but they didnt come down to play. The Sqn lost 1 Hurricane destroyed 1 pilot wnd + 2 a/c damaged.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 04/30/19 03:26 AM

Taford Collins
P/O, A.F.C.
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF
3 Kills.


30 Sep 1940.

I say, smashing day. Scrambled for a 30+ Raid on London. Pinetree called ( Our flight of 8 Hurri's )Rumba Leader , the Raid has split up steer due North , Angels 15, buster. Soon below us were 9-12 Bombers. No Escorts anywhere so into the mix we went guns blazing in a echelon left . I got a few hits but nothing good, Even my 2nd pass was bad then the guns hissed empty. During the melee, I spotted 2 bombers going down. The Sqn claimed 5 e/a for 3 damaged. The C.O. in the mess said that I was awarded the Air Force Cross for my 3 confirmed e/a.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 05/01/19 12:50 AM

Taford Collins
P/O, A.F.C.
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF
3 Kills.

Smashing day. I was off ops for the day attending a tech meeting ( by Jove they are going to put camera's in airplanes ) some thing about claims over at Biggin Hill. I ran into the American War Observers group watching how the RAF went thru its paces. They had a bloody marvelous little Lorrie that they called a Jeep to run about in.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 05/01/19 09:40 PM

Taford Collins
P/O, A.F.C.
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF
3 Kills.

1 Oct 19140.

Bit of a cockup. The Sqn was vectored into a flight of 9 0r 12 He 111's S.E. of London. A good interception. I went down with Yellow section and hit the e/a then made a climbing turn to get above and hit them again. I spotted a good target and closed only to get shot at by A Spitfire that appeared out of the dark clouds firing at me or my target. Went into a tight starboard corkscrew and kept going.
Sqn claims 5 e/a destroyed for 2 hurricanes damaged + mine with holes in rudder.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 05/14/19 01:02 AM

Taford Collins
Acting Flt Leader
B, Flt, 213 Sqn
Tangmere AF

8 Oct 1940.

213 Sqn is on the move. This time to Scotland for rest.
Posted By: Leaf85

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 06/07/19 04:28 AM

F/O Thurston Turner
'B' Flight, 32 Sqd
Biggin Hill AF

17 July 1940- returned from six days in hospital. Convoy Patrol north of Margate. Flight Leader spotted several JU-88's approaching Convoy Tango One at 13000'. 'B' Flight ordered to intercept. Several enemy aircraft damaged and were forced away from Convoy. Patrol briefly resumed when the squadron was bounced by a large force of enemy escort fighters. Badly damaged, I dropped to 1500' and dragged my two ME 109 pursuers over East Church AF where the ack-ack gunners threw up a fierce screen of discouragement. Landed back at Biggin Hill. 71 minutes flying time. Squadron decimated, eight pilots dead, eight machines destroyed. Waiting for stand-down orders. Have a feeling the orders aren't coming. Bugger.

F/O T.W. Turner
Acting Squadron Leader,
32 Sqdn, Biggin Hill Air Field.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 06/07/19 12:52 PM

Yikes! Hang in there and remember what the better part of valor is!
Posted By: Leaf85

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 06/07/19 11:17 PM

F/O Thurston Turner
'B' Flight, 32 Sqd
Biggin Hill AF

17 July 1940- Group has assured me of replacement pilots and machines within the next few days. I've sent the current 'spare' fitters and riggers to help with the defensive preparations. I'm sure they are thrilled with me. Dispersal scrambled us at 1400h to defend the Chain-Home station at Beachy Head. Patrolled between 12000' and 17000', no enemy spotted during the fifteen minutes we were kept overhead. Ordered home at 1445h, all four of us made it back at 1500h. P/O Ross complaining his engine is not firing correctly. Ground crew will pull it apart this evening. Right, I'm off to sit outside the hut, so damnably stuffy in here eh.

F/O T.W. Turner
Acting Squadron Leader,
32 Sqdn, Biggin Hill Air Field.
Posted By: Leaf85

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 06/12/19 02:47 AM

F/O Thurston Turner,
‘B’ Flight Leader
32 Squadron, Biggin Hill Airfield

18 July 1940- Dispersal scrambled ‘B’ Flight to intercept enemy headed towards Convoy M11 at 1500h. We were airborne in six minutes much to Skipper Park’s annoyance (“Do it in three, Thurston. Three minutes, not six.”). Over coast at 1515h, altitude 15,500’. Convoy visible 1 minute later. Intercepted several ME 109E’s of 1JG3 over convoy. Fierce dogfight, down to 4000’. Got one with several squirts at 150m, shot it’s right wing off and he spun into the Channel. We were all split up, was chased inland but managed to damage another ME 109E over Chain Home site. Landed at Swingate Airfield, damaged rudder, 1542h. Down to three fit pilots and four machines now. Right, off to meet with AVM Keith Park.

F/O T.W. Turner
Acting Squadron Leader
32 Squadron, Biggin Hill Airfield.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 06/19/19 01:47 AM

Guy Cranwell
Lt, RAF
41 Sqn
Shawbury


July 10, 1940.

I was posted to 41 Sgn and arrived today. The C.O. told me take over B Flight . The P/O 's are all new only 3 Sgt Pilots have any time
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/06/19 09:46 PM

FIRST CAMPAIGN MISSION

It's 10 July 1940, the date some brass hat or pen-pusher in the Air Ministry would later decide that the Battle of Britain officially started. For Flight Lieutenant Richard Hughes - that's me! - it's his first operational sortie with No.1 (Fighter) Squadron, operating Hurricanes out of RAF Tangmere, close to England's south coast.

And here's our squadron roster, complete with unit badge, top left.

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These badges are a sore point with me. Or rather, their mottos (mostly in Latin) are the sore point. On my visit earlier this year to Fighter Command HQ in Bentley Priory (now a museum), in the rotunda, there were little consoles where you could take a quiz about the Battle. Naturally, I opted for the 'expert' version. And did rather less well than I had hoped, because an awful lot of the questions were about these flipping mottos.

But I digress. You can see from the roster that there is no-one of Squadron Leader rank, so presumably the outfit's being run by the senior Flight Lieutenant. Namely me, as I have 'Always lead' selected in the Workshop option. Unusually, though, we have no NCO pilots - there should have been a few.

Not to worry, there's a war to be won and western civilisation to be saved. Today, the mission briefing shows that our part in this noble endeavour is a patrol. Despite this being labeled in WotR as it subsequently became known the 'Convoy Phase' of the Battle, our patrol area is to factories set well back from the coast, not a convoy. Not quite right, as inland targets were covered by scrambling, not by resource-intensive patrols. Anyway, ours is not to reason why. Note that the map is the replacement one from Hangar 22, the stock one being beyond dire.

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This is version 1.18 of WotR so it still operates the convention of its WW1 predecessor sim in that the player leads or flies in the squadron's B Flight while A Flight, as today, flies the mission independently, nominally as some sort of cover. This is planned to change in a future update. Here we all are on the runway at Tangmere, waiting for the 'off'. Our aircraft have the 'pointy' spinners used with De Havilland props, which had slender blades, but we have the more angular blades seen on Rotol props, which had more bulbous spinners (made for Rotol-fitted Spitfires but fitted to Rotol Hurris too until, from about the time the Mk.II Hurricane appeared, its Rotol got its own spinner, with an elongated, bullet-shaped profile).

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I'm not yet au fait with how/to what extent WotR handles unique unit and aircraft markings. You can see that there is a realistic mixture of A and B Scheme mirror-image camouflage pattern variations. And that my kite JX-B, nearest the camera, has authentic squadron codes (technically, identity letters) for 1 Squadron. The others seem also to have the squadron's JX code, and unique aircraft letters too, but the two to my right have YO, which seems to have been used by 1 (Canadian) Squadron. Strange.

Anyway I start up rather lazily and am soon overtaken on my right. The AI pilot is using his flaps to take off, which is not really right for Hurricanes, which the April 1941 pilot notes for the Mk.I reproduced in Osprey's 'The Hurricane Pocket Manual' say flap, at 28 degrees down, is only 'if taking off from a small aerodrome', which Tangmere is not. We should all have our canopies locked open, too, if I'm reading this right, but I forgot my key assignment (and the last time I took pot luck in WotR, with 'O', I bailed out, and most embarrassing it was too).

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You can see that I have Hangar 22's camouflaged-look hangars installed - the bright stock ones are not on for wartime service. Even brick and wood buildings were camo painted when war broke out, some runways too.

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By the time I have my gear up I've begun to drift well to my left. which I had to fight against for the whole flight. Looks like I'll need to learn to use the rudder trimmer! Incidentally, WotR newbie I may be, but I already know that like some planes in Wings over Flanders Fields, coarse rudder application in WotR's Hurricane can make it pivot nearly on the spot, like a weathercock. Most odd, this looks, but Hangar 22 has a flight model mod for it, which I must install, too.

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Having taken off roughly to the east IIRC, there being no wind reported, I come around to the west and begin climbing. Meanwhile, A Flight's aircraft, in single file, are slipping past me below and on my right.

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And this is the view from the office. Very nicely done, though I get a bit of shimmer from the writing on some of the instruments, having only 2xAA set at the moment.

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I have to level off and throttle back a bit to let the boys catch me up, which they do rather slowly. I have glossiness turned well down in settings, as I dislike the 'thick satin varnish' look, it being said by one of those who saw (and felt) it that 'Close examination of the aircraft showed the camouflage paint to be very rough when touched, thick and very matt so that the aeroplanes gave the impression of being very badly finished, this seeming to be more true of bombers than fighters (MJF Bowyer in Airfix Mag Guide 11 'RAF Camouflage of WW2').

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They close up and off I go again, banking right to counter what feels like a strong crosswing forcing me left. You can see that the WotR Hurricane's rear fuselage 'spine' looks rather flat or angular on top. More rounded would be better. There's also a large 'bite' of Dark Earth missing on the starboard wing's leading edge, but I gather a fix for that is in the pipeline. The subtle weathering is a lot beter than the awful semi-sandblasted finish on one of CloD's Hurricanes. WotR's Sky undersurfaces are a bit clean and bland, though.

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Here I am a bit higher up, having passed Portsmouth, which looks a bit devoid of port-type features and rather agricultural in places. There is no R/T chatter which is fine, but I would have liked to have been able to ask the controller, back in the Sector Ops Room, if there was any sign of 'trade' for us, be they Bogies (unidentified) or Bandits (the ones to worry about). A Flight had been visible ahead, above and right, but slowing down for my own lot to catch up means I've long lost sight of them. Turn on labels? NEVER! I use the radar-like Tactical Display when I feel I need to, but even then generally keep its range set to about a mile.

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At about Angels 11 (a bit lower than the nearly 15,000 feet briefed, a mistake I neglect to correct) the rest of B Flight are lagging again so I slow down again.

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And this time they catch up, and stay there.

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We're flying nearly into the sun so few worries there. My rear-view mirror is hazy like it's got a film of oil, and I'm not sure it'll be much, if any, use.

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On we go. I had hoped that turning down glossiness would have reduced the tendency of the water surface to reflect clouds, which I find pretty but unconvincing for open water, as opposed to millponds. At least the others are keeping close now. I have the Hangar 22 closer formation mod enabled, which is much more realistic, at least for RAF and bomber formations. This facility is apparently to be incorporated in a future official update.

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The airwaves remain silent. Still, this is a patrol not an attempted interception. Perhaps it will be uneventful?

...to be continued!

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/19 01:04 AM

Nice write-up as usual, 33lima! You must be a big hit at parties! rofl
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/19 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Rick_Rawlings
Nice write-up as usual, 33lima! You must be a big hit at parties! rofl


If only...!
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/19 02:34 PM

Waypoint reached, I begin the turn inland. Not too tight, mind, those close RAF vics need reasonably careful handling as we're not flying Gauntlets or Furies for the Hendon display. My number two comes a bit close but there's no real drama. Throttling back a bit helps the chaps on the outside of the turn keep up.

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Did I mention I love the engine sounds? The idling sound maybe kicks in a bit earlier than I was expecting but otherwise, rather good, and you do get the audible effect of negative G cut-out in Merlins (haven't checked if the revs drop too, but hopefully so).

In real life it seems that even if you exclude the local variations like 'Sailor' Malan's sections of four in line astern, Fighter Command squadron vic formations varied a bit. I have seen vics in a flat wedge (such as used in BoB2) described as 'cruise and search formation', and vics in line astern labelled 'battle formation' and 'climb formation'. And the latter is illustrated as such in several photographs and in Gordon Olive's post-war paintings of his operations with 65 Squadron during the Battle. A useful source on the subject can be found in 'The Spitfire Pocket Handbook' (I have the original Conway edition) which reproduces an historical 'tactical paper' on air fighting tactics which describes the evolution of fighter formations during the war.

At this point, I hear somebody on the R/T reporting Bandits. By this stage in proceedings, I have the text display enabled, in case there are some messages displayed but not played. The audible message gives a relative direction in the clock code, two o'clock I think, but I don't hear that important part clearly and can't ask for a repeat. I turn on the TAC but I had it pre-set to a mile which isn't much use.

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Frustrating, although it was the case that reception on the High Frequency TR9D radios used for much of the Battle was by all accounts pretty awful, with one fighter leader wondering how the foreign pilots coped because he frequently had grave difficulties understanding messages himself. And the Pipsqueak radio location system blasted out a tone for 14 seconds every minute, rendering the radios (on those aircraft with it active) useless for R/T traffic anyway, during that period.

I can see nothing and from this point it all gets a bit confused. I begin to orbit nervously, looking up and down, as the warning didn't indicate relative height. I'm new to WotR and I need to work out how best to use efficiently the tools it does provide for this sort of situation - the tactical display aka TAC, and labels - to work as an effective substitute. For example, responding to a Bandit call by instantly turning on the TAC with the range pre-set to a reasonable visual limit like three miles, would compensate nicely for the fact that single player AI is never going to allow realistic real-time radio conversations. And having pre-set some realistic (longer that TAC) range and removed all but friend or foe detail from labels, I could have turned labels on and used that as a proxy for getting a 'picture' from the Controller. I think it's perfectly reasonable and not counter-immersive to use TAC and labels in this fashion, provided realistic limits are applied to limit the information to what you could expect from squadron mate sightings for the former, and ground control reports for the latter, turning both on and off again to represent the request and arrival of the respective report.

I see no AA fire, nothing, and I'm fearful of being jumped after I see a single speck far above heading south. At which point it dawns on me that I'm flying below my briefed altitude, idiot that I am. In the end I do what I should have done immediately - I turn on the TAC and increase the range beyond the mile I'd set it to. I see various aircraft markers which soon disperse, leaving us alone in the skies. I don't hear any R/T chatter so it doesn't seem like A Flight is in action. All very baffling.

In the end the skies seem to clear of other aircraft, whatever they are, and I lead the boys back towards the Solent (the body of water between the Isle of Wight and the mainland) and home. You can see at this point I have the TAC turned on and the range increased to just over 4 miles. Too late, alas!

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Each to their own, but one thing I wasn't thrilled about in WoFF and now in WotR is the high-colour-contrast patchwork quilt effect from the sunlit cornfields, which - to my eye - are bit too sandy yellow, and the fields, which are a bit too blueish and thus not yellow enough. The wonderful John Finch 1942 painting of Ventnor RDF station (after it had lost one of its four transmitter towers) looks about right to me, albeit it lacks fields of ripe corn: http://www.ventnorradar.co.uk/CH.htm

Keen to apply what I had learned, I quit the flight without flying back to base, the debrief confirming that A Flight's sortie had been equally uneventful, with not a round fired by any of us. But in best Blue Peter tradition (UK readers will get the reference) I'll throw in these pics of a landing I made earlier after a Quick Combat sortie in a Hurricane with the ID letters of 32 Squadron, GZ.

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The individual aircraft letter is in a slightly rounder font that the other letters, and the 'G' used by 32 was actually quite square, but it was common, as shown, for this letter to run onto their type A1 fuselage roundel (whose yellow ring looks a bit wide, as it should usually be the same width as the blue one).

And here I am safely down - at Gravesend I think. You can see what I mean about the WotR Hurricane having the DH 'pointy' spinner but the triangular (wooden) Rotol prop blades. The Spit in the background is sensibly dispersed away from the sheds aka hangars, but there seem to be just hardstandings for the aircraft, not blast pens. The Hurricane's Sky undersurfaces could usefully be a bit more grimy and the rear fuselage Dark Green band should sweep up onto the fin and rudder. If I can get the hang of Gimp and with help from Robert who's done sterling work on WotR skins, I hope to do a bit of skinning myself.

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As there was no combat in this mission - I'll pay more attention to the briefing next time, and set up TAC and labels as described - here's a few from Quick Combats, including a tussle with 109s in GZ-C...

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...and a Heinkel being downed, flying JX-B.

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The later illustrates something that really does call for improvement, namely the aircraft shoot-down animation. As often in WoFF, aircraft fall like they've tripped up, pitching sharply nose down and instantly disgorging parachutes, which fall like stones. The planes fall like shot birds, that have suddenly lost all lift. And the chutes pop way too quickly. And in a flight attack against a bomber formation in Quick Combat, some users, regardless of spec it seems, get brief but fairly brutal stoppages of the action about the time the first rounds hit.

There are also some cosmetic issues, like that rather square Hurricane spine, and the Heinkel needing a much more streamlined front end to its dorsal gunner canopy (which slides forward too far) and its supercharger intakes should both be on the RH side of the engine nacelles (for the 111H's Jumos, LS side for the 111P's DB engines). Some target areas could also use a bit of work eg Tilbury Docks exist, but just as inlets in the countryside - a grey-ish local ground texture and a small number of simple, low-polygon, long rectangular quayside shed objects would go a long way, here and for the East End docks -which at least have lots of buildings, unlike their CloD equivalents. Hopefully these areas will get some TLC, but the shoot-down sequences and the performance hiccup during formation actions do really need attention ASAP. Fingers crossed! I'm looking forward to future campaigning with the next patch, which for sure has an impressively long list of improvements.


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Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/19 02:37 PM

Nice to see some AAR's. There's over 40 fine improvements coming in V1.19 much of that you see will change with improvements.
Lima speak to Blade_meister please re V1.19. or send me your email address to support.
Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/19 03:49 PM

Really good write up Lima and I'd love the points you've made to hopefully be incorporated into WOTR

" The later illustrates something that really does call for improvement, namely the aircraft shoot-down animation. As often in WoFF, aircraft fall like they've tripped up, pitching sharply nose down and instantly disgorging parachutes, which fall like stones. The planes fall like shot birds, that have suddenly lost all lift. And the chutes pop way too quickly."

Absolutely with you there mate,couldn't agree more. Hopefully 1.19 is a big step in the future of WOTR.
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/19 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Polovski
Nice to see some AAR's. There's over 40 fine improvements coming in V1.19 much of that you see will change with improvements.
Lima speak to Blade_meister please re V1.19. or send me your email address to support.


Thanks Pol, checking out the FAQ for the info to send re support, re that performance hiccup issue. Have already been corresponding with Blade with his own project and on details like radio voice procedure, formations and markings.
Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/19 05:44 PM

We have recently added better death physics not in the current 1.19 test though. There are some performance improvements in 1.19. We need more support to make WOTR better.

We do need some balance and people point out some of the cool things instead too though.

Hurricane's catching up is because they are two separate flights, also changed in 1.19 see the what is coming for the fix list (plus more).

Obviously every siim or game on the planet you can pull apart at some level, I have seem many triple A games with serious bugs (weird physics flipping vehicles in Insurgency Sandstorm for example, been there for months for example) nothing is perfect.
There are very few flight sims around these days as there is a colossal demand on all aspects of them to be perfect, and it's pretty much impossible to achieve.
Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/07/19 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Polovski
We do need some balance and people point out some of the cool things instead too though.

There are very few flight sims around these days as there is a colossal demand on all aspects of them to be perfect, and it's pretty much impossible to achieve.


Your right Pol,id like to say that the sounds,cockpits,skins..scenery among many other things are excellent. I also know of other titles not just sims that release expensive DLC whilst the main "game" is still heavily bugged/broken.

I think sometimes "negatives" are mentioned before positives because (Personnally speaking) i/we hope you guys see the posts and act accordingly. I get that that may come across has selfish,and for my part it actually is selfish,but I'm at least trying to be honest with my comment mate. It's kind of like "If you don't ask you don't get" sort of thing.

I hope that more and more get into WOTR and support continues,hopefully then we as customers and you guys has developers can continue to push this great sim forwards. Fwiw I don't regret a single penny spent..I've had my money's worth and then some and I'm still continuing to enjoy immensely. 29.99 pfft I've spent more than that on the p@$$ with the work lads. It's a steal at this price

All the best going forwards to you,WM the testers and skinners. cheers

Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/19 02:43 AM

Agree 100% Adger. As the old saying goes, a Combat Flight Sim is never done. I just have to say that I am Blessed(thankful) to be a tester and have really been given an opportunity to see what these two, yes count them, TWO Developers(OBD) of WOTR and WOFF are capable of. Not everything is possible, but I will say that 90% of what is observed and reported as a needed fix in WOTR gets attention. And I mean pronto, these guys are on it, if nothing else to at least check it out and see what is possible, or they just fix it. Sometimes the answer is no, or we intend to do that, but it is going to be X amount of months from now in our future goals. One of the incredible things is if we report something which was observed that is not on the Change Log, say a tester sees something that is killing immersion and have a suggestion on how to make the immersion better, these guys will take it and run with it and pop out a revised version of the test patch quickly and there it is, functioning and ready to go. I have experienced this several times and it amazes me to no end how they just incorporate ideas(engineer a way to code it) or simply fix issues in WOTR. Anyway, there is a lot more going on behind the scenes(think 2 little guys behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz pulling the levers) that is quite amazing and reveals the True Passion that both Marks and the main skinner Robert have for WOTR. If that is not enough, they are keeping WOTR going while they were producing WOFF PE at the same time. Yes the main focus was on WOFF PE, but we still had patches in WOTR at the same time. The other amazing thing is that Mark(Pol) is gathering people to source the facts of the BOB and equipment used, procedures used, organizations of air forces in the Battle and even Comms procedures for possibly upgrading WOTR in the future. No promises there, but it is good to know that OBD's has a vision for WOTR. These Gents are looking at and paying attention to WOTR from many angles and from what I sense, have a wide scope, are ambitious and have big plans for WOTR. Anyone who doesn't try either WOFF UE/PE or WOTR doesn't know what they are missing, and for 29.99 any of them are a steal.
THINGS I LIKE IN WOTR: no particular order
1. The modelling on each of the three playable aircraft. The attention to detail. These guys are still refining the models to make them more and more accurate just because they know they want it better. Beside the slats on the 109, no one has asked for most of the refinements they have made for the Hurricane lately. They just did it, and she looks even better now. I wonder if the Spitfire is going to get some Heated exchange winkngrin in attention to detail going forward? yep ???
2. The cockpits are rendered very nicely. The shadows in cockpit are awesome.
3. The Clouds and weather, 90% of the time best in the business IMHO.
4. I really like the landscapes, the distance you can see and how far out the trees and buildings go.
5. Sounds, the idle sounds and backfires, arh arh arh! again best in the business IMHO. Coming in to land is an audio joy. Those that quit the mission early, you are missing these.
6. The AI, 90 % of the time best in the business. Sometimes a little quirky but heads above the rest right now.
7. In Campaign UI and all of the reports and data available plus the story line of the Squad pilots being logged and used real time in the Campaign as you have losses, replacements, reserve pilots, leave, in hospital time, auxiliary aircraft, lost aircraft, amount of time for repairs.
8. The number of Squads available, number of Aerodromes
9. The attrition of the Campaign and being sent West or North to rest a Squad.
10. The feel of actually flying and fighting in each of the 3 Aircraft are distinctly different. Never flown the real ones but this just feels good to fight in. The takeoffs & landings, well they are pretty straight forward, pretty basic, but then they account for like 5% of the total Campaign experience.
There are GOOD things in 1.19, trust me. Just wanted to share a little glimpse that I see that REALLY ENCOURAGES me that Mark and Mark and Robert are doing what they are doing because they want WOTR, and WOFF for that matter, to be the best, as Historical as Possible and as immersive as they can possibly make it in each Sim going forward. Constructive critiquing is good or nothing would change or be improved in either of these Sims as they move forward. We each just need to remember that each of us have things that we know and Love about WOFF and WOTR right now or we wouldn't be here. I encourage all here to remember the goodness and fun that WOFF and WOTR already possess because a little pat on the back for what Mark & Mark & Robert have already accomplished is in order from time to time. Not to often, we don't want any of them to get the Big Head! nope I know I am over due to let them know that I appreciate that WOFF & WOTR are and that they are my number one go to Sims, if I am not testing or writing an endless AAR or in the P38!(sorry, the P38 is awesome, you have to admit!). Thanks OBD and all that are involved to help WOFF & WOTR move forward and get even better than they already are. winkngrin

Blah, Blah, Blah, Adger, it is all of your fault, you got me going! cuss

S!Blade<>< --->Out! Check6 :-)

P.S. Pol don't let WM read this, he will think it is long winded and bark at me for it. rolleyes
Pol, 33lima is setup and good to go.
Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/19 07:35 AM

17 SQN, July 1940

Tophat must think he's very amusing. B Flight is scrambled and the whole show ends up being a convoy patrol. Some of the chaps and I are thinking of driving over to High Wycombe at 3am and throwing rocks at his roof.

EDIT: Then he went and did it again! Twice! In one day! (Only this time some Stukas came along and I shot one into the drink.)
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/19 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Ace_Pilto
17 SQN, July 1940

Tophat must think he's very amusing. B Flight is scrambled and the whole show ends up being a convoy patrol. Some of the chaps and I are thinking of driving over to High Wycombe at 3am and throwing rocks at his roof.

EDIT: Then he went and did it again! Twice! In one day! (Only this time some Stukas came along and I shot one into the drink.)


Wouldn't do you much good visiting High Wycombe, old bean, that's Bomber Command HQ. smile Want to take your complaint to the top brass? This is where you need to go...

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Posted By: Ace_Pilto

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/19 12:51 PM

Yes, of course it's Bentley Priory. My mistake.
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/19 01:44 PM

By jove!... that Spit was low! Did anyone get that kites squadron code?
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/19 07:52 PM

SECOND CAMPAIGN MISSION

Well, it's actually my second, first campaign mission, as I'm now on the Beta of update1.19 - with full OBD permission; no Non-Disclosure Agreements were harmed during the making of this report. smile

So - same pilot, same start date (10 July), but different squadron, and a different aeroplane - the Supermarine Spitfire Mk.I, with 92 Squadron. We're based at Hornchurch, a Sector (control) station in 11 Group, east of the Metropolis and north of the Thames Estuary. 'Ninety-two' was famously commanded by Roger Bushell, until he was shot down at Dunkirk, captured, and later murdered by the Gestapo for his role in 'The Great Escape'. Also captured at this time was Peter Cazenove, whose Spitfire P9374 was recently beautifully rebuilt to flying condition, after he belly-landed it on the Calais beach (not wheels down, as in that idiotic culmination to the flying sequences in a certain recent movie).

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In update 1.19, as shown above, active pilots are now listed in their allocated 3-plane section, not merely by Flight assignment, and the sections are correctly colour-coded. And RAF squadrons now have a more historically-accurate strength, in both pilots and aircraft. Squadron Leaders (whether of that rank or not) generally flew in the Red 1 position, I believe.

I hit the wrong button in the screen above at some point and instead of accepting my proferred mission, I ended up with a similar one on the next day. It's a patrol over a shipping lane to the east, which I assume means over a convoy, otherwise there would be nothing much to patrol. Which turned out to be right.

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Here I am leaving Hornchurch, which is nicely equipped with a variety of hangar types and has blast pens for its precious fighters, dispersed around the perimeter track, just as they should be. A very nice piece of work. Likewise my mount, which looks much the same as the carefully-restored P9374 does today. Complete with black and white halved undersurfaces, intended for quick recognition from below in the home defence role.

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The underwing roundels were a late addition, for Spits operating over France to cover the Dunkirk withdrawal. Unlike the BoB2 and CloD Spitfires, WotR's one more correctly leaves off the IFF wires from fuselage roundels to tailplane tips. These were a late addition and rarely seen with the common TR9D HF radio (the superior VHF one apparently had its antenna in the mast, not running to the tip of the fin).

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My kite is coded GR-P. Apparently, some time later in 1940, it was realised that 92 had kept its pre-war squadron ID letters and these were changed to QJ. Interestingly, this is the code on my companions, who also all have the recently-introduced Sky undersurfaces, with roundels. Trust me to end up flying the older kite - I could likely have swapped the skin before flying, and may do so, next trip. If I get as far as that!

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I think WotR pilots fly with their oxygen masks permanently on. If it has to be one or the other, this is probably a better choice for the Battle of Britain than was made for BoB2, which it is said tried both in Beta, with 'no mask' winning the popular vote!

I have 1.19's closest formation option in effect and the boys are soon slipping into place behind me, as we climb steadily to the east, with the Thames Estuary to our right.

I turn on the labels just to see how they look, with this result. The stroke of a key cycles through other options, including a simple dot, with further adjustments possible in the Workshop settings page. The reflection on canopies is nicely-done, better than in CloD which seems to obliterate the canopy side framing.

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Our Spits have the DH prop with its 'pointy' spinner and they have the correct, slender profile blades. These started as two-pitch units, fine or coarse, but were famously converted 'without a lot of paperwork and fuss' by De Havilland to constant speed operation, early in the Battle. Moelders flew a captured Spit without this modification and concluded it was nice to fly but 'as a fighting aircraft...it is miserable' largely because its engine was always under- or over-revving, in combat. He probably learned to sing a different tune after being wounded and forced to belly-land by a 41 Squadron Spit, on 28 July.

It's a beautiful summer day as we continue to climb, though there's a fair bit of cloud around.

I level off briefly at about 8,000 feet. I think the isthmus below and right is Canvey Island, and the one under my nose across the Estuary is the Isle of Grain. Nice to be able to pick out landmarks, and see the shadows of the clouds on the surface of the water.

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A look down shows everything looking much as it should, in both senses of the term. I'm climbing again, playing around with the elevator trim, intending to take her up to about fifteen thousand.

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I level off and throttle back, and the boys slide a little ahead until they correct fully.

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The distinctive fork in the rivers behind me is between the Roach (to the left) and the Crouch (to the right). On my port wing is one of those gas warning panels, which were carried in some squadrons for a time. Personally I don't like them, but they seem popular at the moment with plastic and virtual model builders, and indeed with restorers.

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IIRC triangular patrol areas are implemented in 1.19 and that's fine by me. Reaching the first point on ours, I turn right and begin the patrol.

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You can see that my Spit has non-standard, small Type B roundels on the upper wing. Apparently, small roundels in this position were a left-over on some aircraft from the conversion of the pre-war red/white/blue/yellow roundels to low-viz blue and red. The Tamiya model of DW-O has these but not everybody thinks they got their sources right. Whoever painted the excellent full scale fiberglass 'gate guardian' of DW-O at Bentley Priory agrees with Tamiya.

Anyway, we've arrived. Question is, will any uninvited guests be joining today's party?

...to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/08/19 09:00 PM

Right! Let's see now...I'm at about 14,000 feet at the head of the squadron pack and am wondering if we've been sent out all this way to patrol an empty patch of the North Sea. It's a nice view, but as Nelson supposedly observed at Copenhagen, I see no ships.

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Perhaps I should have saved petrol, fatigue and wear & tear by using the new update 1.19 option to put up either a full squadron of 12, or just a flight. No more of this A and B Flights operating semi-independently, and just so.

Aha! There they are. The jolly matelots are playing follow my leader, and happily, nothing bad seems to have happened to them. Yet.

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Round and round we go. If you can be said to go round and round a trianglular flight path. The boys are keeping up nicely, anyhow. Reminds me of some of the nicer air-to-air sequences shot from the Yak-Spit in the Dunkirk movie, this shot. Apart from the fact we've got more Spitfires.

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We keep losing sight of the convoy due to all those pesky clouds. If I drop below the cloudbase, I could keep them in view and catch any low-level raiders in time. But if I do that, a high level attack will catch us out. Decisions, decisions!

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I compromse by losing a little height. Regular sightings of intact shipping keep me reasonably happy.

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We're not too far from the coast, as you can see. No bad thing. Spits were said to like to take their pilots down with them in a ditching, with bailing out the recommended choice over water. Hopefully, not today.

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Gaps in the clouds reveal our charges are still safe...

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...and the boys are doing a grand job of keeping up with me.

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Suddenly, I remember that a new feature in 1.19 is the ability to request what they call 'an RDF update' from your fighter controller. So that's what I do...

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...and as if by magic, the answer comes back, telling me it's all clear and recommending I basically 'keep calm and carry on'. If there is some 'trade' for you, as well as a text and audio warning, apparently you get a Vector in the Tactical Display. Neat! Now, it can feel much more like you are really operating in a ground-controlled, integrated air defence system.

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So keep calm and carry on is what I do...for a while, anyway...

To be continued!

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Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/09/19 02:05 AM

Great stuff Lima,love your reports and knowledge of accuracy / history.
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/09/19 03:17 PM

Eventually, I run out of time and decide to go home. In real life, coastal convoys were covered during daylight by relays of fighters in flight or even section strength, re-inforced by others scrambed to intercept, if the Luftwaffe showed up. And I'd have got a rocket from the controller for abandoning my post before being relieved. But real real life is calling me, so home I go.

But first, I decide, I will put on a bit of a show for the sailors down below. So I chop the throttle and begin to spiral down towards them. I leave the Tactical Display turned on at just over 4 miles range, just in case.

The other boys seem a bit reluctant to come down with me, and descend rather slowly; they follow me rather better in turns. Perhaps I just need to remember I'm not on my own, but leading other fast aircraft all flying in these close 3-plane vics, and flown by average squadron pilots, not a display team.

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Down we go. And it's a quite a long way down.

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And here we go, with our little fly past! It's not exactly the Red Arrows, but there is a war on, after all.

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I look up and get a bit cross when I see the others are not going so low. As it turns out, they seem to have more sense than their leader, who should have been paying more attention to where he was going. Which was, into the drink.

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Looks like I'll be starting my third first campaign mission soon! I think I'll give 65 Squadron a go this time. Like 92 Squadron's Geoffrey Wellum ('First Light'), 65's exploits were recorded in a recent pilot biography, Aussie Gordon Olive's 'Spitfire Ace' and WotR includes a nicely-rendered skin of his kite:

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Anyhow next time, I'll try harder to live to see my second sortie!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 10:29 AM

NEW MONTH, NEW CAMPAIGN

This time, I've rolled forward my campaign start date to 1st August 1940, still in the initial 'Convoys' phase of the Battle but getting closer to Adler Tag and the beginning of the assault on the airfields.

I much enjoyed reading Aussie Olive Gordon's 'Spitfire Ace' so I've signed up my virtual pilot with his squadron, No. 65, and find we're based at Hornchurch. With update 1.19, we have an historical complement of pilots and aircraft (16 and 20) but I have squadron mission strength set to flight not full squadron, also new to 1.19, and which is actually the appropriate setting for patrol missions typical of the convoy phase. The the RAF would not have mounted a standing patrol in squadron strength (as opposed to the sort of offensive patrols mounted over Dunkirk).

This works out well, because my first mission is a partol over a convoy. A I have the 'Always lead' setting selected, I soon find myself climbing to the south out of Hornchurch with five other Spitfires. They really ought to wait for their leader to take off first, but the chaps are always keen as mustard.

Spits didn't take off with flaps and it was common to do so with the canopy open, so I do likewise. The group of more distant specks nearer the horizon on the left is actually a balloon barrage, not aircraft.

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The shipping lane we're to patrol is in the eastern reaches of the Thames Estuary, so I turn left and climb in steps, easing off every so often, to help the boys keep up.

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Soon, we're over the convoy at about 14,000 feet, with the ships visible between breaks in the cloud. You can see that my Spit has the A Scheme camouflage pattern and lacks the unsightly gas warning panel on the port wing, while the kite below has the mirror-image B Scheme and the panel, as well as the correct squadron ID letters and an individual aircraft letter.

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We orbit for a while before I decide to call the Controller in the Sector Ops Room for information on any Bandits - another new feature for 1.19. This now really gives you the sense you're part of what today they would call an integrated air defence system, not flying blind. The Controller comes back with the dramatic news that there are Huns south of us, about 14 miles off. I sweep around in their general direction. But by the time I've spotted them, right and a bit lower, they're quite near the convoy. There's about four Huns that I can see and they're splitting up as if for an attack - whether on the ships or on us, I can't yet tell. I quickly order the boys to get stuck into them.

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Chasing the nearest Hun myself, I can now see he's a bomber, his speed and stubby outline suggesting a Junkers 88. There's no sign of escorts, happily.

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I cut the corner and the range winds down rapidly. We open fire about the same time, and each get hits. But I've got eight machine guns, and he can only shoot back with one at a time. Gordon Olive writes that Ju88s had a 'sting in the tail' of two .50 calibre MGs, but that's not right, and probably more a testament to the skill of German air gunners, who did a lot more damage than they're generally credited with.

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Got him! The 88 begins to fall away, trailing a barely-perceptible streamer of pale smoke. He's still on a level keel and under control, though, so I'll need to have another crack at him. You can see he's an A-1 model, with the original shorter wingspan, the most common variant in the Battle. He also looks to have the authentic upper surface camouflage pattern, in 70 and 71 (Schwarzgrun and Dunkelgrun respectively).

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Anyway, I have unfinished business with this Hun, and begin to position myself for another pass.

...to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 11:25 AM

I come around in a tight, descending, right-hand spiral after the Junkers. Which gives me a good view of the holes I've collected in my right wing and aileron. And also reveals that one of the boys - Blue 2, as it happens - is now going for my Hun!

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And he gets him, too, the cheeky beggar! The two crew who bail out may be close enough the coast to be located and picked up.

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There's still some trade to be had, though, and I waste no more time before curving in after another bomber.

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The Hun levels out, possibly to give his gunners a better chance. Which works out well for him, because he hits me before I get a round off. Meanwhile, one of my section, Red 2, is announcing an attack of his own.

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I break off my own firing pass leaving the Hun smoking. But what you can't see in the pic below is another Spit, out of shot to the left, about to make a pass.

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Once again, I have to watch as somebody else finishes off my target! I suppose this is a team game, and we were all trained in those Fighting Area Attacks which incuded one in which we basically queued up behind a bomber and let him have it one after the other. Meanwhile as you can see from the text, Blue 1 has announced on the R/T that he's going home.

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But the skies are not yet clear of Huns. This one is making a break for it, and he's dropped his bombs. Time to get busy again!

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...to be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 02:37 PM

As it happens, there's another Ju 88 still stooging around. And although you can't see it in this pic, he's still carrying his bombs. I'm not sure whether he's trying to escape, or looking for something to drop them on. Possibly the latter, as he's staying out of the clouds.

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I wake him up with my first attack, which causes him to turn right in an effort to put me off my aim, get away, or both.

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I start snapping out short bursts while still a bit far away, as I'm a bit wary about return fore, after last time.

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Sure enough, I get hit again, but break away without serious damage. Hurricanes in WotR seem very susceptible to radiator damage, but not so, my trusty Spitfire. As you can see, the Hun has started to smoke.

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Bah! Curses! Foiled, etc as Neddy Seagoon's arch enemy Moriarity would have said. For I run out of ammo on my second pass, without doing much if any additional damage to the Hun.

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So this time, I'm quite pleased to see a squadron mate tack onto him...

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...and send him down, bombs and all.

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The big Junkers is rolling as it goes down, clearly finished.

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Like I said, this is a team game. They all count, no matter who delivered the coup de grace.

...to be continued!


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Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 03:18 PM

Nice report 33lima. Looks like that last 88 was trying to Sh!te his internal bomb load while forgetting the external bombs. Scared him good did you! hahaha

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Posted By: CaptSopwith

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 03:22 PM

Really enjoying your write ups 33lima! The photos really highlight the strong points of the sim's graphics. Great story writing as well!

Cheers!
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 03:30 PM

Time to go home, I decide. If you recall his radio message earlier, Blue 1 has already departed thence, for whatever reason. Happily, there's no sign of the few hits I've taken affecting my kite, but I'm out of rounds.

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So I turn roughly east for home and call for the flight to rejoin. The airfield below I recognise as Manston, from its position adjacent to the North Foreland, at the south-eastern end of the Thames Estuary. It's a good landmark, for these days, I have no aircraft icon displayed on the in-flight map. Formerly, this was a mod, but it comes as standard with the Beta update 1.19.

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I throttle back and wait for the boys to catch up, but only two of them appear, from the four (excluding me and Blue 1) for which I was hoping. This comes as a bit of a shock . Above all else, I like to bring all my chicks home to roost.

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I slow down so much that Red 2, racing to catch me up, overshoots. You can see that I have the TAC turned on as well as its additional text, which is useful to the extent it's confirming Manston is my nearest airfield, but its gratuitous advice to 'run away', like I'm a naughty child caught raiding an orchard, is rather annoying.

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Anyhow, Red 2 is soon slipping neatly into position. This time, he's the one flying the older kite, or at least, the one with the older undersurface colour scheme.

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I'm struggling a bit with the elevator trim, which seems to want to lose its setting every time I bank to adjust my heading. Battle damage? I don't think so. Unfamiliarity? Possibly. At any rate, I find myself a bit lower than intended by the time we pass Eastchurch airfield on the Isle of Sheppy, with the Estuary on our right. It's useful in WotR that airfields names appear when labels are flicked on, which helps the new player identify these important landmarks and possible refuges.

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Soon, we've crossed over the Thames Estuary. I know that Hornchurch and home is now not far away, somewhere up ahead. I slide the canopy back in anticipation of landing. Ever faithful, Red 3 is out on my right.

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Here we go! There's no ATC formalities for this kind of thing in WoTR, which is about right for the time and place - an airfield's 'flying control' typically consisted of a chap in a hut or a caravan with no radio, just a Very pistol and an ample supply of 'reds'.

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I land without too big a bounce, raise my flaps (some squadrons fined pilots for risking damage taxying with these down) and seek out an unoccupied blast-proof pen. I can't seem to get much swing into her from the rudder so I just brake to a halt facing an empty pen, and switch off. There are no vitrual 'erks' (RAF Aircraftmen) to grab my wingtips, swing me around and roll me back in. So that's it, then. At least I made it back in one piece this time, and I brought my aeroplane back with me. The Flight Sergeant will be ever so pleased.

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A look at the detailed debriefing confirms that Blue 1, who had to return early, also made it down, damaged but unwounded. Blue 3. though not yet down, also got away with it. But we have lost Roy Orton, Blue 2. On the plus side, we are credited with four enemy aircraft destroyed, with my man Red 3 having got two of them.

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Today, it was fairly easy - we met a small number of unescorted bombers, and made short work of them, though not without loss. If we can keep this up, we might just be able to make it through to the end, with a creditable bag of Huns to show for it. Only time will tell!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 04:11 PM

Thanks for the kind comments, everybody! The guys have really packed a lot of good stuff into 1.19. And as you know, the visuals are already excellent:

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Posted By: Polovski

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 06:22 PM

Great pictures too Lima. Btw not sure you did, but turn off the tail wheel lock will let you more easily turn.
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/12/19 09:29 PM

Ah, that'll be it Pol, thanks for the tip! I'll probably leave it turned off for the RAF fighters as they didn't have this IRL, I believe.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/13/19 08:33 PM

Pilot Officer
Roland Essex
56 Sqn, RAF

10 Jul 1940

I say. bit of a fap this morning, the chaps were sent out to chase snooper around Convoy Rose , but they turned out to be 5 0r 8 Me 109's. I was out late seeing the show at the Savoy so didnt notice a 109 on my 6 till he blew off the port wing. Bit of embarrassment to land in the channel amid fishing boats.

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/14/19 08:02 PM

65 Squadron campaign - second mission

It's still only nine o'clock on the morning of 1st August 1940 and the flight's been called for a second convoy patrol - to the same area, and likely to the same convoy. I do wish those bloody sailors would get cracking and put into whatever port they're headed for. Instead of presenting Jerry with something to drop bombs on. And saddling the squadron with the job of stooging around, waiting to see if he decides to show up, or is content to let us wear out our men and machines on these blasted standing patrols.

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Here we are lined up on the grass airfield at Hornchurch. As usual by the time I've settled myself in, checked the controls and so on, somebody else has decided not to wait for me, who's supposed to be the leader. As you can see, we all have the correct 65 Squadron ID letters with me in Gordon Olive's YT-A. A check with his logbook excerpt in 'Spitfire Ace' shows that R6883 is actually the correct serial number of the Spit he flew from 10 August until after the end of the Battle of Britain. Impressive attention to detail!

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Here I go finally, leaving Hornchurch behind. Even with airfield detail set at medium, it's a nice reproduction and despite my slightly sub-spec 1.5 Mb GTX580, normal frame rates are good enough at mid-forties up to sixties at height. As usual I forgot to open the radiator flap for takeoff; its animation was a feature added in an earlier update.

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We're taking off to the south-east and soon crossing the outer reaches of the Thames, with London lost in the haze upstream.

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A glance left from the still-open cockpit gives me a good look at England's Green and Pleasant Land, which I'm here to defend with life and limb. Hopefully, neither will be lost on this sortie.

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I soon come around to the east and settle on course to our patrol area, which once again is about where the Thames Estuary meets the North Sea.

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I take it easy for a while so the boys can catch up and get into formation. As per last time, Red 2 is flying YT-D. From the duty roster, I know this is Oliver Gomm. If you want your RAF pilots to have the typical nicknames, you have to provide your own. So to me, Oliver will be 'Sticky' (get it?).

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Red 3 is in position on my left and behind them comes Blue Section, who are making up A Flight's numbers today.

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This is the view from Blue 3 while we climb hard for height, with the Estuary opening out to our right.

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Won't be long now!

...to be continued!


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Posted By: Adger

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/14/19 10:39 PM

Great stuff Lima.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/19 01:16 AM

good pics
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/19 02:39 AM

Pilot Officer
Roland Essex
56 Sqn, RAF

17 Jul 1940.


Posted to Patrol South end on the sea, B Flight had no contact.

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/19 09:02 PM

65 Squadron campaign - second mission - continued.

We continue to climb hard....

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...and it's not long before we’re crossing the Essex coast, having levelled out at our briefed patrol altitude of 14-15,000 feet.

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There’s still a lot of cloud about, and no sign yet of the convoy I’m expecting to be babysitting.

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There it is! Looks like just three ships, all merchantmen without so much as an armed trawler to look after them. We’re all they’ve got, by the look of it.

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I’m getting the hang of setting the elevator trim on my Spitfire but the patrol legs are quite short, as we need to stay near the convoy. So there are regular turns to be made, and if you wait to reach the triangular waypoints, you’re liable to go a bit wide, or need to make tight turns which can easily upset formation and height-keeping. It requires a fair bit of concentration, leading these tight vics with the new, more realistic settings now available in Update 1.19.

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Several times I call the controller for news, but each time he tells me there’s nothing brewing. So round and round we go. Nothing else for it. We gave the Huns a bit of a pasting earlier; maybe they’re still licking their wounds.

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Again I ask for news, and again there isn’t any. I’m beginning to feel like a child in the back seat of a car, asking the parents repeatedly ‘Are we there yet?’ But the controller doesn’t complain, he just suggests that I keep calm and carry on, basically.

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The briefing told me we had to stay on station for at least 12 minutes and I’ve gone well beyond that. I don’t know if yet the ‘warp’ function works in WotR, but while the ‘next event’ warp worked fine in CFS and CFS2’s scripted campaign missions, I always hated its different ‘time acceleration gone berserk’ implementation in WotR’s ancestor, CFS3. It’s mission 2 on my new campaign and I’m taking no chances, so I decide just to go home. In real life, we would have patrolled much longer and stayed on station until we were relieved.

We're soon heading back towards the Essex coast. A last check with the controller reveals there is still no 'trade' for us, so I feel that I have done my best, or at least, done enough.

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We dip down, down, back towards our airfield at Hornchurch. Not the most exciting of missions, but at least I survived, and got a bit more experience flying as a leader in WotR. Especially now that leaders can request reports on nearby enemy activity, I would not consider flying other than at the head of a flight or a squadron. Much more interesting that formation flying, to my mind anyway.

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Bring on the Huns, I say! We're ready for them!


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/15/19 09:16 PM

Goog story telling getting immersed
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/19/19 12:46 PM

Sadly, a glitch of unknown origin, but possibly mod-related, messed up my squadron roster so I restarted with a cloned pilot from the next day, 2nd August. Everybody else's name has changed and my record is back to a clean slate but no biggie.

I'm still flying with the new 1.19 Update squadron strength setting 'reduced' - not because my PC needs this to cope, but because I know we're flying patrol missions and these would have been made in flight (6) or section 93) strength. Fighter Command did not have the resources to maintain standing patrols, typically over convoys, at squadron strength. Unless and until this is automated or can be changed at the briefing stage, I will swap to full squadron strength in Workshop, when we start getting scrambled to intercept raids.

This first sortie of the day is a patrol, but this time not to a convoy aka shipping lane. We are to fly slightly further north, and patrol the RDF Chain Home station at Bawdsey Manor on the Suffolk coast. This site was the pioneer RAF radar station, and there is now a museum on the site, which I would love to visit one day.

Here we are, ready for 'the off' on the grass airfield at Hornchurch. Red 2 is next to me in YT-D, still flying the only kite with the pre-June black-white undersides. Red 3 is in YT-O, and everybody else has both correct squadron codes for 65, and a unique individual aircraft letter. You can see that I have the A Scheme camouflage pattern, while some in the flight have the mirror-image B Scheme, including Red 2.

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Spits and Hurris in 1.19 now correctly take off with flaps raised. Taking off to the south, we're soon crossing the Thames and coming around to the left. I didn't notice the westward-bound goods train at the time.

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You can see Hornchurch behind me as I turn left. The WotR Spit sounds as good as she looks. I hope to start a bit of skinning after the beta testing of 1.19 and if no-one else is doing it, would be inclined to increase the upper wing Type B blue/red roundels to standard 56" diameter and add the usual 'step' in the leading edge of the Dark Green band that now sweeps diagonally back under the cockpit.

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On our more northerly heading this time and climbing steadily, we are soon leaving the Thames Estuary behind on our right...

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...while London merges with the haze to our left. You can just about make out the Royal Group of Docks, let into the north bank of the river in the distance.

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I was there for a couple of days earlier this week and they are really large bodies of water, overlooked at one point by a couple of original mill buildings which survived both the Luftwaffe and the developers (pic taken from the very modern Royal Victoria Dock footbridge).

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Still climbing, I find I need to turn slightly right to correct for a tendency to drift to the other side.

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At about ten thousand, I level off and let the others tighten up the formation again.

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Our track takes us inland to the west of Bawdsey initially, and I find myself east of Ipswich, close to an airfield which I think is Felixstowe, an RAF Coastal Command station.

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At last, just out from the coast, we reach our patrol area at about 15,000 feet, and start the patrol itself. I'm pleased to see that there's less cloud about than yesterday.

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Heading back south-west again, I see that airfield once more, and another one further north, which I think is the fighter base of Martlesham Heath.

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As I turn onto the next leg, you can probably just see the grey lattice towers of Bawdsey RDF station, visible against the cornfields on the far side of the river estuary above my Spit's exhaust stack, close to its seaward end.

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Well, we're here, anyhow. Question is, will any uninvited guests be joining us?

...to be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/19 12:03 PM

Several times, using the new 1.19 update feature, I impatiently call control, asking if he has any 'trade' for us. Each time, he patiently tells me no. Which is not to say that all Hell's not breaking loose somewhere else, just that there's nothing he reckons we can do anything about. So the patrol continues.

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There seems to be more cloud out to sea than overland. Every now and again, I turn on the tactical display, range set at just over 4 miles, to check my heading against the three legs of our patrol task, then turn it off again. As I have its target type set at 'Aircraft', it also acts as an occasional early warning. But in future, I think I may set it to display ships or something else, so that it functions only as a navigational aid.

In the new 1.19 tightest formation spacing, I have the impression that my flight is a little slow to react to changes in height (especially if accompanied by a change in speed) but is quite good at following me through turns, provided I don't make them too steep.

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Looking to my right, out beyond Red 2, I can see where the estuaries of the Rivers Orwell and Stour come together, where lie the important North Sea ports of Felixstowe and Harwich.

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Round we go again. Still, Control has nothing for us.

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The tension eases a bit. I can't see any convoys, which are the main Hun targets these days, apart from what the Luftwaffe called 'pirate raids' flown by one or two especially-skilled crews against a point target. But these small daylight raids were usually mounted under cover of duff weather, which is hardly how you could describe this fine mid-August morning.

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After a while, a TAC check shows our next waypoint is nearly fifty miles back to the west. So it looks like WotR has decided that since my briefed minimum time is up, I can go home. Which I choose to do.

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So back to Hornchurch we go. I throttle back and lead the boys down. You can see that WotR's Spits reflect the main changes made to RAF undersurface colours up to this time, with Red 2 having the early black/white undersurfaces, while others have Sky with and without roundels, 'with' being the official standard from August 1940.

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I'm not unhappy at having an uneventful restart to my RAF Spitfire campaign, but hope to see action before much longer!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/19 04:49 PM

'Be careful what you wish for', the saying goes, 'you might get it.' Well, I wished for action, and I got it.

It's ten a.m. on the same morning, 2nd August and already, we are tasked with another patrol. It's in the same general direction, to the north-east, but this time to an aircraft parts factory at Southend. I rather think we should get only convoy patrols; land targets would be covered by scrambles to raids which might threaten them, instead. Generally, we should be tasked to patrol over a feature on the ground (eg a town, or even our own base) only to pre-position us to be vectored against a likely threat.

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Anyhow, ours not to reason why, and all that. We've soon got away - six of us - and started climbing towards our patrol area. Looking left, I can see Hornchurch, just below Red 3.

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I ease off on the power to let the others get into formation and catch out Red 2, who ends up briefly in front...

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...then it's power back on, and up we go again.

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I don't bother to call control during the trip to Southend; I suppose I'm getting a bit blasé about the whole business. So I'm all the more surprised when, just as we're approaching our task location, one of the boys calls out Bandits, at twelve o'clock high! Crikey! I turn on the TAC display, select one of them (whoever they are) and order them attacked. The boys do their best.

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Looking up, I see a bunch of about a dozen aircraft on a roughly reciprocal heading, rapidly passing several thousand feet above us. I can't tell what they are, but their formation looks unlike bomber vics. Sure enough, they are fighters, Messerschmitt 110s. One of them is somewhat ahead of the rest and he waggles his wings before coming down on us, along with some of his friends.

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Next second, there seem to be 110s all around us! Even as the ones still above start coming down too, the developing air battle is claiming its first victims.

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I latch onto one of the Huns who is crossing in front of me from left to right. Ack Ack bursts mark his passage.

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He's very fast but I finally get in range and let the beggar have it. Puffs of smoke show that I'm hitting him, too!

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He jiggles about a bit indecisively, then makes up his mind, rolls over and goes down. I nearly overshoot, in my efforts to keep after him.

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Just when I think the 110 isn't going to pull out, he does just that, and begins to climb back up. By this time, he's a long way off, though still being shot at by the boys on the ground.

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Time to settle his hash for good! With 'everything pushed and pulled' to get maximum revs, I tear after him. A quick glance behind reveals the indistinct head-on shape of another aircraft, which looks like one of his friends. But he's a long way back and I reckon I've time for a crack at the first Hun. I get off a good burst, and the big Messerschmitt rolls briskly to the right and goes down.

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At that very moment, the Hun behind me catches up and tracers flash past to my left. Instinctively, I roll right and pull back hard on the stick as my Spit goes over on her back.

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Crikey! Serves me right for pining for a spot of action!


...to be continued!


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/19 07:07 PM

Real good story.
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/20/19 09:38 PM

I come up and around in a sort of loop in a non-vertical plane...and find myself behind my erstwhile attacker, who now appears to be making a run for it.

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He's moving fast, but at full boost, I catch him up and let him have it.

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I expect the 110 to wilt under my fire, but I seem to get few hits and he slips out of my way. I pull up and around, searching for him along his original track.

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Ack Ack bursts lead me to another 110...or is it the same one? Hard to tell, but anyway, a Hun, is a Hun, is a target.

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Before I can get into range, the 110 rolls over on his back and goes down steeply.

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As I watch, he flicks out of control, wobbles, and spins out of the sky. I watch suspiciously, but he's much too low to recover and smacks into the deck, right next to what looks like a barn.

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I clear my tail smartly and call the boys to order, but there's no response. I recall hearing a fair bit of chatter on the R/T, including at least one chap announcing he was going home. I turn on the TAC but there's nothing to see, apart from the fact I'm being advised to put down at the nearest airfield, Rochford.

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Looking around, there's not much to see, except the scenery.

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I don't see any particular reason to run to Rochford, but bank in that direction, anyway. Behind me, dark clouds are beginning to form.

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The lack of company is becoming rather ominous. I slow down and lose height, but nobody catches up.

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The skies behind me are cloudy, but clear of aircraft, friend or foe.

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I reach Rochford but decide not to land there. I'm too impatient to find out what happened, to fly back to Hornchurch. So I call it quits and check the detailed debriefing. It's not a pretty picture.

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Red 2 got a Hun, but he won't be coming back. Likewise, two others have bought it, and only one Spitfire - not my own - is undamaged. I sort of scared one Hun out of the sky so there's that, but it's small consolation.

Bit of a disaster, really!

PS I don't know why Blue 1's aircraft type is shown as 'unknown'. But I do know that my own shooting wasn't as bad as the numbers above suggest. After my last attack, having paused the action when firing (to take a screenshot), the guns were still going when I unpaused, despite the trigger having been released, and I had to press and release it a second time to stop them spraying lead all over the sky!


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/21/19 02:16 AM

Well played 33 Lima
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Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/21/19 12:46 PM

Yes excellent as always! I swear you must have one heck of a batman to do all that typing for you!
Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/24/19 05:01 AM

Have had a good ride with this test Pilot and received my first Medal! Wahoo.It has been a bit of a rough ride though with Large formations on. 72 Sqn is down to the last 3 pilots with 3 more on the way in 3 to 4 days. Have had some slowdown in big furballs but I probably have it turned up to high in WS and NVCP.
I did fast forward into August just to get to the Coastal Attacks on Fighter command Phase. Have been shot down 3 times in these missions and belly landed 2 times. Was bleeding profusely 1 time and landed quickly and survived. 1.19 brings even more immersion and even with the limited time in 'Campaign' I have found it much more challenging. These are the results after my last mission this evening, in which I was jumped and handed my ass by a 110 with a grudge. I think in the previous mission I had shot down 2 of his JU 88 Hun buddies. Anyway, things are coming along nicely. Can't believe no one has figured out what has changed on 33lima's 'guess the changes' pictures in the WOTR picture thread. Common guys, it is clear to see and the answer is in taken in the picture.

S!Blade<><

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/26/19 09:54 AM

65 Squadron campaign - 13 August 1940

I've made another and hopefully last fresh start with this campaign, having cleaned out pilots in a fresh install after another attack by the Fifth Column [attributed to mod leftovers] which blew up everyone else's Spitfire at the end of the runway...

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This time I selected Adler Tag itself as my campaign start date, this being the point from which the Luftwaffe switched the main focus of their attack to the defenders, including airfields and radar stations. I have reduced squadron strength selected in Workshop, not to save system resources, but so that I can continue to fly patrol missions in realistic (Flight of 6) strength, instead of full squadron. While ready to switch to the latter when we start being regularly scrambled to deal with raids.

Here's the briefing for our first mission - to cover a Channel convoy. While continued in the North Sea, I think daylight convoys in the English Channel had actually been discontinued by this time, and that 65 Squadron was still at Hornchurch up to the north east, not at Tangmere. They often operated out of forward bases and narrowly escaped loss when bombed taking off from Manston on August 12th, as captured by Yellow Section's Gordon Olive in one of his many vivid paintings reproduced in his memoir 'Spitfire Ace'.

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As before, I'm flying the machine he often flew, but as flight leader. Here we are at the end of the runway. Tangmere was actually a grass airfield at this time, and didn't get asphalt runways until 1941-2 (according to Chris Ashworth in 'Action Stations 9')

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Getting off from Tangmere is tricky in a Spit unless you use maximum boost aka WEP. Somebody should have compulsorily purchased and levelled all those tall buildings on the rising ground to the north of the runway!

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Anyhow, I made it, and by now I'm well practised at getting away ahead of the others.

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Cockpit canopy still open, I level off a bit and swing around to the east. Our assigned course is just inland along the coast until roughly north of our patrol area. I decide to adhere to that, as it will help give me the lie of the land in this sector.

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Throttling back to let the boys catch up catches out Red 3, who briefly slides in front of me.

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But he's soon back in his appointed station, and I begin to climb again.

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A little later and we're approaching Brighton. There's no sign of the famous pier, but there's a war on and no time to worry about buckets and spades or what the butler saw.

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As the WotR weather forecast indicated, there's an increasing amount of cloud around, as we head east...

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...but we don't give it a second thought. Up to this point, I haven't called Control for news of any Bandits. I decide I'll wait until we've reached our patrol area. In the meantime, Mother Nature's fluffy white clouds and blue skies certainly make a pretty backdrop to our darkly-painted war machines.

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Nearing our turning point, we come out into slightly clearer skies. The boys are keeping up quite well, I'm pleased to see.

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Just west of Hastings, we turn gradually onto a heading out into the Channel, with Red 2 on my right in his Spit with its older black-white undersurfaces.

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The coast begins to fall away behind us as we grind south. We haven't seen any other aircraft since we took off, but I know that could change quickly. I can feel the tension rising with every mile we get further out to sea.

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...to be continued!



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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/26/19 11:32 AM

Well out over the Channel, we get our first glimpse of the shipping we have come here to protect...

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...and soon after, begin the patrol itself.

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Behind me, Red 3 comes rather close during the turns, but manages to avoid running into me.

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I'm generally making left turns, so life is a bit easier for Red 2, provided I don't go full tilt.

Calls to the controller reveal no sign of Huns, so I get a bit of a shock when I suddenly notice a bunch of aircraft flying in the opposite direction, a couple of miles out to my left.

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Off we go! I select full power and go for them. Huns I reckon, intent on attacking the ships, or perhaps a fighter sweep.

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But no - as I get closer, I can see that they are Spitfires like our own. I'm tempted to close with them and find out who they are, but they turn right and away, and I let them go.

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In my excitement, I've pulled away from the boys a bit, so slow down to let then regain formation.

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By this time, our briefed minimum time on patrol is long passed and as it looks like our relief is on station, I lead the flight home.

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A look at the gauges shows the top tank is nearly empty, but the bottom one is still full. A final check with the Controller confirms the skies are clear of Huns so I feel it's safe enough to continue back to Tangmere.

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I let down over the sea as we near the coast, with the shadows of the clouds dappling the steely blue waters of the English Channel.

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Brighton comes up on our right as we fly along just offshore.

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Cutting diagonally inland, I can soon see Tangmere up ahead.

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This time, instead of just putting down myself, I decide to try out WotR's flight commands and as I reach the airfield, I give the order to land. The boys promptly peel off to the right, leaving me time and space to make my own circuit.

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As far as I know, flying control at fighter bases of this early period tended to consist of an officer with a Very pistol and a supply of 'reds', housed in a hut or caravan. None of this modern ATC stuff. Keeping a look-out for traffic, I'm soon settling into a curved approach to the runway I took off from about an hour earlier.

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Once safely down, I taxi onto the perimeter track, into one of the dispersal points, and swing her around deftly so that I'm facing back out. I switch off and hear the distant hum of aero engines, as the flight makes its own circuit. Soon, the first two - probably my own Red 2 and 3 - are dropping onto the ground and rolling to a halt behind me.

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An uneventful first trip it's been, apart from the excitement provided by the unexpected arrival of those other Spits. But I'm always quite happy for a gentle start, and to bring everybody safe home. There'll be plenty of time later for the heroics, I have the feeling.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/27/19 07:14 PM

Wow, more good ones I dont know how U keep up.
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/30/19 08:17 PM

65 Squadron - afternoon, 13 August 1940

I'm glad as a (virtual) common-or-garden RAF squadron pilot that I wouldn't know that today is Adler Tag, the day the Luftwaffe's balloon goes up. Because if I did know, I would be wondering where all the eagles had got to. They did turn up, though. Just not on my first show of the afternoon.

This is another one of those tense, but potentially ultimately dull, defensive patrols with no particular Hun target in mind. Instead, we are briefed to patrol the Chain Home Low radar station at Truleigh, a little inland and west of the coastal town of Brighton.

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With 'reduced strength' still selected in Workshop/settings, at least we aren't wearing out the whole squadron - just the six of us in A Flight - actually comprising A's Red Section and B Flight's Blue Section. That's me at the head of the pack, Red 1, in YT-A, with Red 3 to my left, then Blue 1 with Blue 3 on his left.

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We reach the patrol area without incident and tootle around at about Angels fifteen, or one five if you prefer. As in the title of the1952 film, which incidentally is a good source for realistic early war RAF R/T voice procedure if ever you're looking for such a thing - one of the fighter controllers in the film was played by a real one. And I love the line when Pimpernel Squadron's star pilot apologises to new arrival 'Septic' Baird for landing cross wind in front of him with a damaged Hurricane - 'Yes my fault, of course, very Second Eleven'. Pure period stuff, wooden though it may sound today.

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Anyhow, the Luftwaffe First Eleven is no-where to be seen, and calls to the Controller reveal only that he can't find anything for us, either. You can see the text response to my request displayed at the top of the next screen, as I have text display turned on - also visible, slightly truncated, below the TAC if that's turned on. You can only hear the R/T exchange if you are in the cockpit view, though. WoTR radio reception is crackly at best, as it was with the HF TR9D sets used for much of the Battle.

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Truleigh I think lies in the open countryside somewhere off the western fringes of the woodland that's visible beyond my starboard wingtip. CHL stations lacked the four huge masts of the 'regular' CH stations and I never see the Truleigh site the whole trip. I'm not sure whether the patrol is designed to defend it, or less implausibly, to pre-position us against a possible attack in the sector generally.

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But the party's potential guests don't show up, so home we eventually go.

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The most Hunnish thing I see is the steam locomotive trundling east from Chichester as I come in to land. The red wheels are pure Reichsbahn, and it may have typical continental smoke deflectors, too. And those angular vans it's hauling look decidedly un-Southern Railway-like.

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/31/19 06:56 PM

65 Squadron, 14th August 1940, morning


It's a squadron scramble! Or A Flight anyway, since we're the only ones at readiness. Bandits approaching the coast to our west!

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For once, caught up in the excitement, I select max boost and am off the ground noticeably more quickly than I can manage without it.

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And it's a fine day for an air fight, clear blue skies mostly - seems a shame to close the canopy. A few pilots preferred not to, but seem to have changed their minds when the risk of fire being sucked into an open cockpit became apparent.

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Tangmere is soon slipping away behind me. But where are the boys?

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While I'm waiting for them to appear, I check my heading by briefly turning on the TAC display. And call the Controller for a Vector to the Bandits. After a pause, he comes back to confirm they're now over forty miles away, at 17,000 feet. He gives us an course of 102 degrees, which should ideally be to intersect their path, not their relative bearing.

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By now, the rest of the flight is sliding over from my left.

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Soon, we're in formation and climbing hard. Forty miles along and three miles up suddenly seems a long way off and I'm fretting at the thought I might fluff the interception.

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Passing Brighton on the coast, I level off and make sure the boys are keeping up. I want to get to the party on time, but not on my own. I'm the leader here and I need to bring the flight into battle as a unit. As 'Sailor' Malan put it, teamwork is one of the words that mean something in air fighting.

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I ask for another update and an a bit worried when I head that the Bandits are still reported to be thirty-seven miles away.

I'm now at about eighteen thousand and can afford to level off and race ahead.

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This is it!

To be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 10/31/19 09:06 PM

There they are! Turning away then rolling back to the right to get a look under my nose, I see a flock of green bombers slipping quickly past in the opposite direction. I recognise them at once - Dorniers!

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In my anxiety to get at them, 'teamwork' suddenly goes by the wayside. I begin to leave the flight behind as I curve down after the Huns. The possibility that there might be 109s about is also forgotten.

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The Dorniers - there look to be about nine of them, in close formation - pass below too fast for me to make a direct pass. So I give up on that and come around in a wide, fast sweep, to come up behind them.

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The speed thus built up makes my first pass a brief one. Before I know it, I'm zoom climbing up and away from the bombers, unsure if I hit anything. But thrilled, to have made the interception and led the pack in.

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By the time I'm closing again for another pass, the pack has struck. Two Dorniers are falling out of the sky, and Hun 'chutes have begun to pop as the crews get out - some of them, anyway.

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This is the fellow I have decided to go for. He'll know all about it too, very soon.

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Ahead, another Spit slips in towards my intended prey and I let fly with a long range burst before he blocks my line of fire. Threatened by two fighters and under fire from at least one, the bomber begins to weave, first left...

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...then back to the right, as the range winds down and my rounds find their mark. More parachutes appear. In the heat of the moment, I'm not sure if they're from my victim, or the Dornier next to him.

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The fight isn't entirely one-sided. Return fire whacks into my kite and I pull up and away again, with a few holes in my wing that weren't there before.

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Once out of range, I roll right and take stock. The leading vic is still in good order but the rest - what's left of them - are now merely scattered remnants, out of formation and losing height. This has all the makings of a red letter day for 65. But the surviving Dorniers are still headed inland, intent on bombing somebody, somewhere.

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We're not finished here yet.

...to be continued!


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Posted By: Trooper117

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/01/19 10:51 AM

Great pics, but it pains me to see the same 'two parachutes' every time we shoot a German bomber down... it would increase the immersion somewhat to have it randomised smile
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/01/19 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Trooper117
Great pics, but it pains me to see the same 'two parachutes' every time we shoot a German bomber down... it would increase the immersion somewhat to have it randomised smile


Thanks and with you on that, I think the 'chutes fall like stones, too. Be surprised this isn't sorted in a future update.
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/01/19 06:16 PM

Down we go again, lining up for a stern attack on the remaining vic of Dorniers. I decide to go for the chap on the left.

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He must be thoroughly rattled by my attack, for he makes little apparent effort to maintain his place in the vic and banks first right...

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...then out and away, left and out of formation. On my next pass, he’ll be on his own, without the extra protection of the fire of the other bombers. ‘Stupid boy!’, as Captain Mainwaring would have muttered, had he been there, and cognisant of the basic tenets of bomber operations in daylight.

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But there isn’t going to be another pass. Even as the Dornier slides away, I’m hit again, and this time it’s done something rather nasty.

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I break away, leaving the Hun apparently heading for home on his own. I’m now more concerned about the grey trail I’m leaving behind, and turn for home too, easing off the power. The boys will have to continue the party without me - we'll catch up and compare notes later.

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My trusty Merlin seems to be running normally and my first thought is that I’ve got a fuel leak. I watch the gauges for top and bottom tanks, but they show no change in their readings. Likewise, the coolant and oil temperatures seem to be behaving themselves.

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I lose altitude slowly as I approach Brighton.

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Rather suddenly, things start going visibly wrong. My oil and coolant temps start going off the clock. Within a few seconds, power is draining away and my prop is whirring to a stop. Engine oil starts flecking my windscreen. Soon, I’ll be flying a rather inefficient glider.

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Prop stopped. Engine possibly seized. Losing height steadily. Passing over Brighton, looking for a suitable field somewhere beyond the built-up area.

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Bit of a turnaround. One moment, I’m the avenging angel of death; seconds later, I’m struggling to keep body and soul together.

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Lower down and running out of options, I realise the ground here is rather undulating, not to mention the hedgerows criss-crossing it.

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I’m looking for a level run of land along which I can force land, but it’s not easy to find one. Finding myself heading straight for dead ground beyond a crest I hadn't noticed in time...

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...I turn right, trying to get down into what looks like a more suitable field, but find my momentum carries me over another crest, with the ground falling away sharply on the other side. Suddenly, I’m back up where I started, and beginning to feel the first real tinges of alarm.

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I turn rather hard left, risking a stall in an effort to lose height and speed in time to get down again before I run into the nearest treeline. Those trees are coming up rather fast by the time I flare to brake my descent…and I can now see that there’s a line of telegraph poles running across between the gap in the trees!

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I swish or scrunch onto the grass, slide along for several seconds, somehow missing the obstacles…and blow up!

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Crikey!

But all is not lost. Earlier, the dreaded target marking bracket had re-appeared. I leave this off, always, so could not recall quite the right keystrokes to get rid of it, at first. Unfortunately, the combos I tried included Alt+tabbing myself out of the sim. I got back in, but this seemingly killed the WotR ‘runtime’ element, preventing the mission outcome from being recorded.

So I’ll be able to resume my campaign after all, without any kills (which would only have been ‘probables’) but also without my virtual death (which was definitely ‘confirmed’!). An acceptable trade-off, methinks – I’ll take and run with it!

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/02/19 10:53 AM

Another good story
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/02/19 06:30 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere - morning, 14 August 1940

Well I'm glad my dodgy forced landing didn't also force a sudden end to my 65 Squadron campaign, because the next mission was a fine old scrap which I would otherwise have missed. And this was the way of it.

It's a scramble! Bandits are reported heading towards the RDF station at Ventnor on the Isle of Wight, over to the south west. The six pilots at readiness are soon snarling off the ground, with our Spitfires tightly strapped to our backs.

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Reasonably enough, you don't get time to study the map before a scramble. So I take the opportunity to call up the map after I'm off the ground. I have aircraft icons turned off, and think you can turn off waypoints too if you're really hard core (or like getting lost).

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A quick look at the instruments shows all is well...

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...and before long, the Coastal Command airfield at Thorney Island is on our right, as we start to cross the Solent, towards the Isle of Wight.

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I request a fresh Vector from the Controller. It seems the Huns are still to the south, but I maintain my course. I'm intent on gaining height and placing my flight between the enemy and our coast.

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Soon we're over the Channel...

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...with the masts of the RDF station at Ventnor visible to our right - you can just about see them below my aircraft's nose in the pic below.

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And up ahead are the Huns! About a dozen of them, milling about like a swarm of gnats. What type of aircraft they are, and what they're up to, I haven't the foggiest idea. But I do know that I need to put a stop to it!

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...to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/02/19 09:03 PM

I order the boys to get stuck in and select a Hun of my own. I was half expecting (hoping!) from their antics that they would be Stukas. But they're actually Messerschmitt 110s. I pick out one who seems to be on his own, and go for him, trying out a bit of deflection shooting as I close in.

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After a couple more bursts, the 110 is leaving behind a grey trail, and struggling to maintain height. He'd have been better rolling over and going down, probably. If there's any return fire from his rear gunner, I'm not aware of it.

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Although as a squadron pilot at the time I would not have recognised it, the Messerschmitt bears the black and white unit badge and A2 fuselage code of Zerstorer Geschwader 52, which I gather was absorbed by ZG 2 just before the Battle of Britain started. No matter, my only concern is the number of holes I can put into him.

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The Hun stubbornly refuses to be shot down, so I close in fast and let him have another burst.

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Small pieces fall off the 110 as I break right.

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He rolls right too, but it's merely a prelude...

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...to falling out of the sky. Got him!

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Right! Who's next, then?

...to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/03/19 08:27 PM

I clear my tail and am soon after a second Messerschmitt. They're fast, these Huns, and when he spots me and loosens his turn, he's actually able to keep me at a distance, well out of range.

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Suddenly, one of the boys announces on the R/T that he's making an attack. And there he is, cutting in between me and the 110! The Hun banks hard left to get out of his way.

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I break off to cover the other Spit, who makes short work of the Hun. Large pieces fly off the Messerschmitt as my flight-mate excitedly announces his victory on the R/T.

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The 110 falls from the sky. I circle underneath another one, warily as he's up sun of me as he turns.

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But this Hun seems to be thinking only of getting away. He heads full tilt south, for France.

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I can't get enough extra boost out of the engine to catch him, and he's well out of effective range. So I break right and let him go, content to have chased him from the field of battle.

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I orient myself then fly back north, towards the Isle of Wight. En route, I almost run into another 110, coming the opposite way.

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A quick turn and I'm after him. My first burst lands some hits and the big aircraft rolls over to the right and goes down...

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...and down...

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I break off - and after a quick look around to make sure we're alone - watch him go, from the relative safety of a tight turn. The Hun is now falling out of control, in a sort of flicking spin. A white plume on the dark, near-featureless surface of the English Channel marks the spot where he goes in.

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I didn't see any 'chutes, so it looks like I hit the crew, or they were trapped in the spinning aircraft. It's not pretty, but the occupational risks are what they are, for all of us.

to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/03/19 09:40 PM

I resume my course north, and can soon see the Isle of Wight up ahead, I'm now alone and low on ammunition, but at least I'm not lost.

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However, I am beginning to worry about the boys. I can recall one of them calling for help at one point, and at least one more announcing he was going home. I rather left them to get on with it. Am I the only survivor? What was I thinking, leading six of us to attack twice our number? I make an orbit, calling for the flight to regroup.

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I get only one answer. It's Red 2, and he's soon back on his appointed station. But that's it. There's no-one else back there. Surely they can't all have gone for a burton?

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I fly home in mounting anxiety. It's some consolation that Ventnor RDF station is intact, although there's what looks like some bomb craters straddling a nearby road. I had a feeling the 110s might have been attacking the place, although the ones I saw up close had no bomb racks, full or empty.

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Back over the Solent we go, more or less they way we came maybe half an hour before, with two Spitfires where we had been six.

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I'm desperately keen to get down and find out what happened, be it good, bad or positively awful. Before long, but not nearly soon enough, I'm settling into my curved approach to Tangmere, with everything hanging.

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No sooner is my tailwheel on the ground than I order Red 2 also to pancake. Slowing right down, I raise my flaps (some units fined pilots who taxied about with them lowered), turn off onto the perimeter track, park in a dispersal point, and switch off. In the sudden quiet, I can hear Red 2 in the circuit, but can't bear to wait to watch him land before heading off to get the gen on the show.

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It's actually not the disaster I feared! Blue Section had a bit of a rough time, with all three aircraft damaged and having to land where they could. No hospital cases or worse, though, and Red 3 is claiming a Hun! I waste no time in adding my own two claims to the tally.

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Not a bad show, after all!


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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/04/19 01:31 PM

A good day's work! thumbsup
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/05/19 06:56 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere, late afternoon, 18 August 1940

The flight is scrambled again, once more to intercept a raid coming across the Channel from south of the Isle of Wight. We’re quickly on our way. We need to cover nearly seventy miles and get up to at least 14,000 feet. At times like this, I wish the boys were as quick at getting into formation after take-off, as they are at getting off the ground in the first place. You can see from the map that the estimated target is inland this time, an aircraft factory.

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While I'm waiting impatiently for the others, I call up the Controller. If I'm understanding him right, he tells me the raid is still well to the south, but I don't want to turn towards them too soon, so carry on to the south-west.

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The boys are just beginning to catch up as I pass Tangmere's satellite airfield, Westhampnett. It's a grass airfield, but with two well-worn landing strips visible. Bit of a giveaway to the Hun bombers, if and when they decide to visit.

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The formation comes together and I start to climb hard again.

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Soon, we cross the Solent, I request a fresh Vector from the Controller. His report confirms that the Bandits are still out over the Channel, so it looks like we will arrive in time to head them off. I adjust our course accordingly, slightly to the left, out to sea. In a few minutes, we have skirted the eastern side of the Isle of Wight and are over open water.

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Rather sooner than I was expecting, one of the boys calls in Bandits at ten o’clock low. There they are! Just slightly lower, a modest gaggle heading roughly north-west.

I order them attacked and swing towards them. I quickly see they’re bombers – Heinkels, in fact.

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In my haste to get at them, I’ve completely neglected to check that the bombers are on their own.

They’re not!

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...to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/06/19 03:06 PM

Nobody seems to have noticed the yellow-nosed 109s until it’s too late. They’ve caught us dead to rights! Our formation dissolves...

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... as the 109s come down on us.

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But none of them go for me, so I decide to complete my attack on the bombers, first – after all, they’re the priority target. Someone on the ground up ahead is about to get bombed. We can’t stop that now, but I have a chance to ensure a few less bombs are dropped.

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There’s about nine Heinkels...

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...and I attack the one on the right rear, firing short busts as the range winds down. Suddenly, the big bomber rears up like a horse refusing a fence. Got him!

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A couple of the crew bail out; their mount is clearly finished. I’ve taken a few his from return fire, but nothing serious. I think.

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By now, the airwaves are filling up with the usual calls and I look around before making my next move. Suddenly, tracers from behind fly past my canopy, a few feet away!

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I break hard and down, without getting a glimpse of my attacker, but knowing he’s there.

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I level off into a tight turn, but this time, the Hun’s aim is better. Rounds smack into my kite. I try to roll over onto my back again to get away, but get into a spin.

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Recovering into another turn a few hundred feet lower down, I seem to be in the clear. But my Spitfire is leaving an intermittent smoke trail and my wings are holed. So far, the engine gauges are behaving themselves, but I’m not expecting this to last indefinitely.

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So skirting the clouds, I ease pack on the power and turn for home, in a shallow descent.

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Soon, I'm back at the Isle of Wight.

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Looks like I've got away with it!

...to be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/06/19 07:21 PM

I have to face the possibility that my trusty Merlin could give up the ghost at any time, so I'm glad to be nearly back over terra firma, if still some way off the nearest airfield. I decide to make for the base at Thorney Island first, If I make it there, I will try to complete the next hop back to Tangmere, or Westhampnett which is slightly closer.

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Suddenly, I’m hit again! My Spit seems to shove her nose down of her own volition, as if under the impact of the rounds.

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I regain control in a steep dive, with the ground coming up rapidly...

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...and pull out just in time, doubtless to the chagrin of the persistent Hun who is waiting and watching for the crash.

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I don't expect to survive the next attack, or a forced lading in my crippled crate if I do. So I pull up to gain a bit of height, level off, and bail out.

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My ‘chute opens so quickly I’m worried it’ll snag on my abandoned machine, but I get away with it!

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The Hun calls it quits….

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…while the Spit just carries on in the shallow dive I left her in….

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…for the last few hundred feet down to the sea.

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The 109 heads for home. He's from I/JG53 and has a long way to go home across the Channel, to his base in the Cotentin peninsula or the Channel Islands.

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A Spit for a Heinkel might be regarded as a fair exchange. But while I have survived my dip just off the coast, the flight has been savaged by the 109s.

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Only Red 2 got back; the other four chaps are killed, and their Spitfires lost with them, like mine. Five aircraft and four pilots lost! So for now, the Squadron is left with just 11 of us. What a disaster! Next time, I’ll not be putting up just a single flight – we’ll all be going on the next show!


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/06/19 11:24 PM

Nicely done.
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/07/19 02:10 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere, late afternoon, 14th August 1940

We're off again, already - it's another squadron scramble! And this tme, I'm taking the full squadron - what's left of us anyway, nine fit pilots apparently. Our target is a raid approaching the headland at Beachy Head, some way to the eastward.

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We take off, turn east, and thunder low over the countryside as the formation comes together.

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A few minutes more and we're passing through ten thousand feet...

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...with the eastern outskirts of Brighton below us.

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Up ahead - just beyond and right of my Spit's nose, in the pic below - is Beachy Head. Not far to go!

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A check with the Controller indicates the Bandits are now approaching the coast from the south so I turn right towards them, relieved not to have arrived too late. The reporting and control system is having another good day.

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And the boys are behaving themselves nicely, too, keeping up well.

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So far, so good!

to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/07/19 02:38 PM

Headed out to see now, I'm anxious that the Huns, approaching roughly head on, should yet slip by us. But another check with the Controller enables me to confirm we're on course for an interception.

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And there they are! Looks like a squadron of bombers, with a gaggle of escorts above. We'll not be caught by surprise, this time!

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I order the boys to get stuck into the escorts. And this time, I'm staying with them - I pull up and around, reluctantly letting the bombers press on for now...

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...and steer for the middle of the developing dogfight between Spits and yellow-nosed109s.

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The party is soon in full swing...

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...and I chose my own dance partner, hoping this is my chance to get one back on the same unit who gave us a hiding on the last show.

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I get some good hits, and the Hun rolls over and goes down.

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I keep after him, and he dives away smoking after my next attack.

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He's not done yet, though. The 109 recovers and heads for home. I check my tail, and then race after him.

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I park myself in the 109's blind spot and close the range.

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My next burst sends him flipping over to the right.

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This time, it's enough - he goes straight down, out of control, and is still spinning seawards when I decide it's time I got back into the fight.

to be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/07/19 03:37 PM

Heading north and back into the fray, I see a single aircraft above me, coming in the opposite direction - south towards the French coast. So he'll be a damaged or lonely Hun going home, there's little doubt. As I pull up towards him, I can see he's a Heinkel. You'll do, I say to myself, grimly.

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The bomber sails past above me as I come up and around after him. He's not showing obvious signs of damage, and I'm aware that I've already fired off a good few rounds from my 300 per gun. So I'll have to make this quick and clinical.

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I close in behind the Hun and he starts jinking. In a rather sprightly fashion, for a big bomber. On the 'plus' side, this doesn't much help his air gunners, whose defensive fire goes well wide.

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My first pass doesn't seem to do an awful lot of damage.

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But the next attack produces much better results.

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The crew hits the silk and the abandoned Heinkel slides downwards and seawards, slightly right wing low and clearly doomed.

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However, I took some hits myself on the final pass and I'm now trailing what could be Glycol from a radiator or coolant system piping. Clearly, it's time to go home!

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But home is quite a long way off, barely visible in the summer haze.

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...to be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/07/19 04:13 PM

This time, I get back to the coast before my engine seizes.

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Time to find a field into which to get down! I slide back the canopy, and if there was a keystroke to tighten my seat harness, I would have done that, too.

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The scenery is now coming up fast. The ground ahead seems fairly level and - if I can get down between the trees - free of obstacles. Apart from those fences.

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Nothing else for it! Down we go.

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I flare and hold off for as long as I can, as low as I can, before brushing the ground. There's a cracking sound as my kite smashes through a fenceline, then we jerk to a halt. Made it! But at this rate, I'm in danger of becoming an ace in the Luftwaffe, before the RAF. Still, it's a good landing if you can walk away from it, as the saying goes.

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This time, our results are a lot better than on the last show - though with two more pilots lost, there's hardly much cause for celebration. Still, we've knocked down six Huns, if you include the two I'll be claiming. Could have been worse!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/08/19 07:56 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere, morning, 15th August 1940

It's another fine day and we start with another patrol, this time to the factory in which our aircraft were built - Supermarine's, at Southampton. Which was pretty well wrecked by a daylight raid by KG55's Heinkels on 26 September 1940, supposedly after the Luftwaffe had lost the Battle of Britain. Hopefully not what will happen today, while we're looking after the place!

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We've been told to expect replacements in men and machines. But for now, all we can put up are six Spitfires. No point fretting over that. Tangmere is soon falling away behind us...

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...and I've swung around to the west, towards our patrol area.

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The boys don't take too long to catch up and soon we're climbing steadily.

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A quick look at the map reminds me of the basics of our sortie. The summary doesn't repeat the height, though - what was it, Angels sixteen?

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The Coastal Command base at Thorney Island is soon slipping behind us. it's a good landmark; also somewhere you can get down, if you're out in this neck of the woods, but can't make it all the way home to Tangmere.

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Rather than wait till we're on task, I ask the Controller for a fresh vector about half way there. It's as well that I do, for the Bandits are now reported to be coming in behind us.

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Round we go!

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And there they are! Sneaky beggars - just goes to show that you can never trust a Hun!

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...to be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/09/19 01:26 PM

I lead the squadron towards the Bandits, who come under Ack Ack fire as they near the coast. I had thought that I could see one or two other aircraft near them, flying separately and higher up, but they seem to have disappeared. Escorts or attackers withdrawing, perhaps? Anyhow those other, indistinct specks seem to have gone, now it's just us and them. Whoever 'them' is.

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I tell the boys to get stuck in and then roll in for my own attack, as the Huns pass ahead and below. Heinkels, they look like, and only about six of them - sheer tactical madness, German Oxo cubes being fed to the British lion. As I bank left, Red 2 is already announcing he's attacking. McAuley is a good pilot and keen as mustard, with a couple of scalps already under his belt.

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I get hits on my own target before breaking hard right. At that very moment Taylor, Blue 3, announces he's bailing out!

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I strongly suspect he has collided with the Heinkel that's going down in flames with its outer wing panels torn off. It's pretty unlikely hits from .303s alone could have done that so quickly. Not a great start!

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I come around in a wide sweep to clear my tail and take stock. There's still no sign of escorts. And the bombers are clearly in a bit of a mess, already. Two of them are still ploughing on to the north-west, with Cowes, on the Isle of Wight, beyond them. Another two are breaking away to their left, harried by a couple of Spits. Another Heinkel is right over on his back, showing his pale blue belly, to their right rear.

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The one I think Blue 3 collided with has stopped burning, but is clearly done for.

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And I very much doubt the one who's upside down will end up any better off.

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He falls away, looking completely out of control, although a Spitfire, just beyond, seems to be keeping an eye on the Heinkel, in case he makes a dramatic recovery. Despite Blue 3 going down, we seem to have the situation pretty well taped.

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The two bombers who haven't given up are soon under attack from astern.

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The leader is hit and dropping behind by the time I come in for a pass at the other Heinkel.

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I really should have steadied her up a bit more before letting fly, but I still get plenty of hits.

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But not enough, it seems. The Hun is still flying level and leaving only a thin, intermittent smoke trail by the time I break off, untouched by any return fire.

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So I'm quite pleased when I see the Huns bail out and the Heinkel begin to fall away.

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You'll do!

...to be continued!


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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/09/19 01:54 PM

A clean sweep! Very nice!
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/09/19 03:12 PM

Looking around again, the only other aircraft I can now see is another Spitfire. So I decide to chum up with him.

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There he is, one of our boys obviously but I can't remember now who was flying YT-M.

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I order a recall but it seems somebody is still engaged. Where and how I can't see, but I do see a group of half a dozen aircraft crossing left to right. I decide to investigate, recalling Mick Mannock's advice to treat other aircraft as hostile until confirmed otherwise.

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Such confirmation comes when I identify the newcomers as Spitfires. Too many for our lot.

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They turn out to be from 610 Squadron. If they came here looking for our Huns, they're a bit late.

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I should really have tracked down the rest of my own squadron at that point. But they continue to excuse themselves with claims of being busy, and in the end I decide if they won't come to me, I'd be darned if I'm going to chase about the sky looking for them. So back to Tangmere I go.

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There's nobody else in the circuit so I land straight away...

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...and am soon safely down.

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My screenshot of the debriefing failed but it showed we lost one pilot - Morrison, my Red 3 - and are officially claiming only three Heinkels, including my own. Strange! At least my first two claims have been confirmed. Unfortunately I neglected to put in for a couple of others in between, but at least I've now officially 'broken my duck'!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/09/19 08:32 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere, morning, 16th August 1940

The next show was an uneventful patrol to the west, around the airfield of Shoreham, next to Brighton (which happened to be where I put down my damaged Hurricane after my most recent RAF campaign mission in Battle of Britain II).

Basically we took off, turned, and climbed east...

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...arrived over Shoreham...

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...and tootled around for a bit...

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...and then for a bit longer...

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...and a bit longer still.

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Control could find no trade for us. All we saw was six distant specks also tootling about, just much lower down - another patrol, of Hurricanes as it turned out. Control didn't set us on them so I assumed them to be friendly and left them alone, while keeping a wary eye on them until they disappeared out of sight.

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As soon as our time was up, I led the boys back to Tangmere. Why Sector doesn't simply scramble us when he has some trade, instead of having us fly these standing patrols to cover ground targets, I don't get.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/10/19 03:21 AM

Good reading
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/10/19 04:11 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere, mid-afternoon, 16 August 1940

Unfortunately those stubborn Naval people have not yet given up on coastal convoys. Our next mission is to put up a patrol over one, happily not too far away to the south-east. We can manage only five Spitfires, but that's fair enough for this sort of mission.

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I'm quickly leaving Tangmere behind and turning back towards the Channel.

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By the time we're crossing the coast, the boys are in position, with Red 2 and 3 either side behind, and Blue 1 and 2 off to our left rear.

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Climbing harder now, I ask the Controller if he has any trade for us. Which he has, as it happens. Pretty well straight ahead.

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As we climb I'm conscious that Red 3 - Skidmore - is living up to his name. Watch what you're doing, you clot!

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I push the stick forward and bank left to give him a bit more space, but it's too late. As the others look on in horror, Red 3 clips my Spitfire! Up ahead are the Bandits, but it seems this is as close a look as I'm going to get at them.

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Red 3 goes straight down in a vertical dive; there's no sign of a 'chute. My own kite is still answering controls, but power is dropping and I'm trailing smoke, as I begin to fall behind the others.

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I order them to split formation in the hope they'll go for the Huns. For myself, I'll be lucky to get home. I quickly turn back north towards the coast. I've been hurt as badly as my Spitfire, by the look and sound of it.

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Fearful of passing out from shock and loss of blood, I bail out...

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...leaving my abandoned Spitfire to her fate. Again.

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Happily, I am saved, but Skidmore has bought it.

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I spend an eventful ten days in hospital. My return isn't made any happier by the fact that (though not visible below) my trusty number 2, McAulley, with seven victories to his name, is reported killed while I am away.

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Looking on the bright side of life, replacements in men and machines have brought us well back up to strength.

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Time to have another crack at the Huns!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/15/19 06:35 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere, 27th August 1940

It's about 13:00 on another fine but cloudy summer day that we get our next call to arms. It's a squadron scramble against a raid to the north-east. Our Spitfires are soon on the way - twelve of them, although not all are visible below.

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Our vector takes us towards Tonbridge, south-east of the metropolis...

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...and we're soon climbing steadily, to at least the 14,000 feet indicated by the Controller.

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The cloud cover increases, the further east we go...

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...and soon we are amongst some rather dark stuff, behind which any number of dastardly Huns could be lurking.

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At this point, though, it becomes apparent that the Huns may have decided against any such activities. A call to the Controller for an update reveals that he no longer has anything for us. It's a bit of a disappointment, to say the least. Over land, we rely on the eyes and ears of the Observer Corps, as RDF looks only out to sea, and the cloud cover is the likely culprit, here. Or the Huns have just gone home.

Nothing else for it, but to patrol our assigned piece of sky, in the hope things could change. So round and round we go.

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As it happens, the Huns are still around, closer than we thought.

...to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/15/19 07:16 PM

We fly a few legs of our triangular patrol pattern...

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...often unable to see much around or below us.

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We do get a sighting of this large body of water, which turns out to be Bewl Water...a reservoir which wasn't created until the 1970s, apparently.

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Just as I'm about to ask the Controller for a fresh report, one of the boys saves me the trouble. Huns - down there somewhere on the left!

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Banking to get a better look, I see yellow-nosed 109s emerging from the murk and climbing up to get at us. I quickly order the boys to get stuck in, and try to roll down onto their tails myself. But I hit what feels like some rather bad adverse yaw, which nearly puts me into a spin. By the time I've recovered full control, two of the Huns have reached my level and are turning in behind me.

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After a bit of dancing around merrily, I manage to turn the tables...

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...and am soon after one of them, the other Hun having disappeared somewhere.

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I get some hits on the 109 and he rolls over and goes down. At this point, I haven't noticed the group of aircraft visible some way off, near the top of the pic below.

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My immediate concern is suddenly my erstwhile target's number 2, who hasn't disappeared after all. Saw him just in time! I break hard to get out of his way.

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It's while looking back for the 109 that I notice the large formation, below and behind. Bombers with escorts above, by the look of it!

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I've managed to open out some distance between myself and the 109 and I use this to make a dash for the raid, with everything pushed and pulled to get as much speed as I can from my kite. Thoughts of what the others are up to are forgotten. These are the people I came here to get, and I'm jolly well going to get them!

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...to be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/15/19 08:42 PM

I've managed to put some distance between my Spitfire and the 109 who's trying to stop me...

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...so I go straight for the nearest Junkers, at the rear of the gaggle of bombers, which is much the biggest formation I've seen so far in this campaign. I test the range with an early burst...

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...then bore on in, snapping out short bursts, the empty cases streaming from underneath my wings...

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...until the Hun, hit hard and streaming smoke, banks left, out of formation...

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...leaving my last burst flailing empty sky. No matter - he's going down. And if there's any return fire, I'm not conscious of it.

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I break right and up. Whatever happens now, there'll be one less load of bombs dropped on this lot's target!

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I roll back left, determined to have another go, the pursuing Messerschmitt forgotten. Two 'chutes trail the doomed bomber. But there's plenty more where he came from.

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I'm not done here yet!

...to be continued!

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/15/19 09:59 PM

The Hun bombers rumble on, less one of their number but still a formidable force. I've forgotten the 109 that was chasing me, and the escorts I saw above the bombers, which were last seen moving away to the left. If I'm lucky, they are low on fuel and heading home, not circling around behind me.

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As I come in for another pass, the bombers are starting a turn to the right.

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I pick a Junkers on the outside of the formation...

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...and let fly. This time, I'm aware of the return fire. Hits smack into my Spitfire.

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I stick with my target, who loses his nerve and dodges out of formation.

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I set him smoking, but suddenly, even as I begin my break, tracers flash past me from behind.

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The 109s have caught up, and the hunter is now the hunted!

...to be continued!



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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/16/19 05:21 AM

Roh row!
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/16/19 10:40 AM

If I had been a second later starting my break away from my pass at the Junkers, the 109 would have hit me fair and square. As it is, I'm already damaged by return fire, leaving a thin smoke trail which criss-crosses the fatter one left by the damaged bomber.

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Down and away I go. The abandoned Junkers descends slowly, as the crew sail earthwards under their silken canopies.

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Any hope that the 109 has decided to settle for scaring me off is soon dispelled. He's still hard on my heels, and I fired my last rounds at that bomber.

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Meanwhile, the bombers are still turning, bomb doors now open. Their target can't be far away - I think there's a factory of some sort, near here somewhere.

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But I've more pressing concerns, as I hurtle earthwards with the ground seemingly rushing up to meet me, and the 109 still determined to finish me off. I call for help on the R/T, which is acknowledged, but there are no friends in sight.

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I try to pull out before smashing into the scenery. The engine noise is now being drowned out by a positively scary roaring or droning sound, rising in pitch. This could be it!

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But the Hun isn't in the least bit put off.

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I pull out just in time and bank left, aiming for a road which runs through a gap in the rows of buildings ahead. It's time to find out if the Hun is as desperate to get me, as I am to get away from him.

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He's not! I bank right in triumph and relief as he breaks up and away, at last. You can just about see him under the tip of my raised wing. Suddenly he seems in a hurry to make himself scarce. Which suits me down to the ground...literally.

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Time to go home, and file claims for those two bombers!

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Back at Tangmere, I'm disappointed to see we have lost a pilot, Burby, flying as Yellow 3. How it happened, nobody seems to know. And I'm the only one to have fired my guns.

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Still, whether they are ever confirmed or not, we did well to get two bombers, considering the odds. Not a bad lunchtime's work!

As a footnote, I was delighted to see for myself for the first time a respectably-large raid, of about gruppe strength, which I think needs to be the default for a convincing representation of the Battle of Britain. Today, I was convinced! Did FPS take a bit of a hit? Yes, a bit. Did it seriously affect playability? No, it didn't. Might it have, if more fighters had been attacking? Possibly. So while a bit of further optimisation or tweaking would likely help, I will remember this mission as proof of that Wings over the Reich can now achieve a visually pleasing, tactically challenging, personally engaging and historically convincing representation of flying for Fighter Command in the Battle of Britain.


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Posted By: Blade_Meister

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/16/19 12:44 PM

Nice sorty 33lima. Yeppers, agreed, WOTR has its' moments. Overall it is just fun with some really good graphics, convincing AI most of the time and great immersion in Campaign. I think a lot of people are dismissing this little gem and don't know what they are missing.

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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/17/19 05:00 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere, 29 August 1940

Our next show is another scramble, to intercept a raid heading towards the airfield at Gosport, just west of Portsmouth. We manage to field 11 Spitfires...

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...and are soon on our way.

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Contrary to the briefing, according to Peter Jacobs's 'Airfields of 11 Group', Gosport was not a Fighter Command satellite airfield, being a Coastal Command station not used by the fighter boys. Still, it was bombed on 12, 16 and 18 August.

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Be that as it may, we are soon turning left and leaving Tangmere behind.

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Canopy closed, I lead the pack on what should be a short hop, more concerned with putting on enough height than missing the raid altogether.

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A check with the Controller back in the Sector Ops Room at Tangmere confirms we are still in business and heading the right way. Although the enemy's height is now given as 17,000 feet, a couple of thousand more than first reported.

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Up we go! I'm flat out and pulling slightly ahead.

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Another check with the Controller brings the unwelcome news that he has lost track of the raid, or no longer intends fro us to intercept it. We're left to patrol Gosport in the hope the situation will change.

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We're not the only aircraft in the area, however. A flight of what I take to be other RAF fighters is slipping out towards the Channel. A patrol on its way to a convoy, perhaps?

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They disappear into the haze to the south-west. I'm tempted to follow them, in case they know something we don't, but orders are orders.

We reach out patrol area and start to orbit. Another check with the Controller confirms the situation is unchanged and there are now no Bandits for us to intercept.

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Yet another RAF patrol is heading out to sea. Or perhaps it's the same one, coming and going, patrolling its own assigned beat.

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Hurricanes, they are, from 56 Squadron.

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They too soon disappear out to seaward.

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Our time is up and I decide just to go home. I lose height only slowly in case the Huns show up after all, but further checks with the Controller draw a blank.

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When we reach Tangmere, the boys peel off to the right and go down.

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Bit of a waste of 100 octane and engine hours, but at least we all made it back in one piece. I'm very well aware that we mightn't be so lucky, next time up. In the meantime, there is some good news - my two Junkers 88s are confirmed destroyed!


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/18/19 11:30 AM

nice
Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/21/19 07:32 PM

65 Squadron, Tangmere, 31 August 1940

'Rain stopped play' on 30 August, but we get an early call the next day. It's a scramble, to intercept a raid reported to be heading for the famous Fighter Command base at Kenley, just south of London. We have more pilots that aeroplanes so can put up all eleven of our current serviceable Spitfires.

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The sky is still dull and there's a lot of cloud about after yesterday's wet weather.

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We're soon climbing north past a rather heavily built up Tangmere village...

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...then to off to the north-east, up through the clouds...

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...emerging into clearer skies above about ten thousand feet.

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I request regular reports from the Controller, and am reassured that he keeps confirming we're on the right track.

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At about fifteen thousand, I ease off on our rate of climb. Eleven Spitfires slide over an almost unbroken layer of grey murk...

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...guided to our as-yet-unseen prey by the wonders of modern science.

...to be continued!


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Posted By: 33lima

Re: Combat Reports - AAR - 11/21/19 08:02 PM

By now, Kenley must be not far ahead, down below the cloudbase. I throttle back a tad and scan the lightening eastern skies up ahead, anxiously.

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Ten other pairs of virtual eyes are doubtless doing exactly the same thing.

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After another check with the Controller, I adjust our course slightly to the south...

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...but still, we see nothing, and begin to orbit. And a minute later, the Controller no longer has anything for us! Frustrating, to put it politely!

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Suddenly, there they are! A small group of distant specks is crossing the murk ahead of us, moving off to our right. I turn after them...

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...although I strongly suspect they are friendly. I doubt such a small force of Huns would dare trail their coats like that, in the skies south of London. And they are not reacting to our presence, even after we have started stalking them.

The other boys seem to think the same thing, because nobody reports them as Bandits, or even Bogies. But a fresh check with the Controller reveals we are still in business! There are Huns around, but they are now a bit further away and down to the south.

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I settle us onto the ordered heading and open up the throttle. The chase is on, and the excitement is now building rapidly. Then we see them! One of the boys reports the raid on the R/T, but I've already seen them. Possibly twenty bombers, with eight or so visible escorts up above.

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They are drifting slowly across our noses from right to left, at about the same height. And getting bigger and bigger.

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The Controller down in the Sector Ops Room back at Tangmere has certainly made up for the brief loss of service, earlier - his fresh instructions have been spot on. Now, the ball's in our court!

...to be continued!


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