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WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues?

Posted By: DukeIronHand

WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/28/16 07:43 PM

If you look to Lou's post he finally got his new machine working which, hardware-wise, is quite similar to mine.
He is quite happy (naturally enough - 3 weeks of no WOFF) and says everything is great...even in performance. Mine is also good but it could always be better at low level in 1918 with 50 planes in the air.

Anyone having ANY problems with W10 and WOFF?
Didn't a couple of bold adventurers here say they switched and thought WOFF ran better?

I am not afraid to blaze new frontiers for improved WOFF'ism.
Posted By: Trooper117

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/28/16 08:17 PM

Not here, no problems, WoFF ran fine after my upgrade to win 10 smile
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/28/16 08:57 PM

Thanks Trooper.
Any performance increases? If you could tell....
Posted By: hood

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/28/16 09:22 PM

I tried Windows 10 and WOFF ran well.I can't say I noticed any real difference.But W10 took nearly three minutes to boot up against 25 seconds for W7 so I went back to good old W7.
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/28/16 09:23 PM

Thanks hood.
Let me do some more checking around in the old threads here.
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/28/16 09:39 PM

Eh. Seems a mix.
Couple of folks saying WOFF ran better but more saying they tried it and just didn't like it and went back to 7. They didn't mention WOFF improvement.

If it improves WOFF performance I would switch in a second after all my big, expensive computer is basically a WOFF machine anyway. I do little else with it. I get enough computers in the rest of my life. Hehe
Pol...didn't you say you are running W10 on your Dev machine?
Posted By: Russkly

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 09:09 AM

Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
If you look to Lou's post he finally got his new machine working which, hardware-wise, is quite similar to mine.
He is quite happy (naturally enough - 3 weeks of no WOFF) and says everything is great...even in performance. Mine is also good but it could always be better at low level in 1918 with 50 planes in the air.

Anyone having ANY problems with W10 and WOFF?
Didn't a couple of bold adventurers here say they switched and thought WOFF ran better?

I am not afraid to blaze new frontiers for improved WOFF'ism.


No issues.

No notable changes in performance.
Posted By: Russkly

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 09:11 AM

Originally Posted By: hood
I tried Windows 10 and WOFF ran well.I can't say I noticed any real difference.But W10 took nearly three minutes to boot up against 25 seconds for W7 so I went back to good old W7.


Hi Hood,

Strange, 'cos my Win 10 boots up much better than Win 7.

There is a programme called Oh Shup Up 10, which allows you to control what 'features' Win 10 employs, and I also use CCleaner to control what programmes and processes are started up at boot.

Just FYI.
Posted By: hood

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 10:17 AM

Many thanks Russkly,I will have a look at that.Though being the complete computer dunce I don't think I would have a clue what features to turn off.
Posted By: Russkly

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 10:27 AM

Originally Posted By: hood
Many thanks Russkly,I will have a look at that.Though being the complete computer dunce I don't think I would have a clue what features to turn off.


There are standard set-ups too.

I'm useless with PC stuff too, and I managed it!
Posted By: dutch

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 10:46 AM

Originally Posted By: Russkly
Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
If you look to Lou's post he finally got his new machine working which, hardware-wise, is quite similar to mine.
He is quite happy (naturally enough - 3 weeks of no WOFF) and says everything is great...even in performance. Mine is also good but it could always be better at low level in 1918 with 50 planes in the air.

Anyone having ANY problems with W10 and WOFF?
Didn't a couple of bold adventurers here say they switched and thought WOFF ran better?

I am not afraid to blaze new frontiers for improved WOFF'ism.


No issues.

No notable changes in performance.


I'm also very curious on this Win10 vs win7 topic.

But isn't so that people who do make a complete clean/fresh install to Win10 will face improvements and people who only doing an upgrade on top of Win7 will notice nothing and the same improvements can achieved when doing a fresh install of any OS after running 5 years of Win7 that does contain lots of hidden leftovers and pollution.
OK, Win10 does have more service/process ballast but it can cope better to modern drivers [drivers are always developed to newest OS/games/hardware as prior #1] and it should have a far more efficient use of RAM.
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 11:34 AM

FWIW I talked to a pal of mine who is in charge of computer hardware and software for a "large organization" besides being his lifetime hobby.
His advice was to keep W7 for "as long as you can."
Posted By: Russkly

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
FWIW I talked to a pal of mine who is in charge of computer hardware and software for a "large organization" besides being his lifetime hobby.
His advice was to keep W7 for "as long as you can."


Hhhmmm...did he stipulate why, Duke?
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 02:10 PM

He did not nor did I ask. Known him for about 20 years. Told him I was looking at mainly an improvement in graphics performance (aka WOFF) and that was his reply.
Guess when I say "talked" I should have said "texted."
Posted By: Hellshade

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 02:20 PM

I just upgraded to 10 this weekend and no problems in WOFF so far, except my Nvidia Shadowplay doesn't appear to be recording anywhere. I've updated to the latest Nvidia drivers but still no joy. I will have to keep looking for the reason, but I have the preferences pointed to my SSD "scratch" drive of D:\Videos.
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 02:35 PM

Perfect!
Upgraded to 10 from...?
Improvement in WOFF performance?
Posted By: Hellshade

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 03:36 PM

Upgraded to 10 from Windows 7 64 bit. I think performance is about the same, perhaps a little better. I haven't flown enough to be able to say, but certainly it is no worse for the change.
Posted By: kksnowbear

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 03:36 PM

Not at all to derail this thread - I am actually very interested in the subject. But, briefly, on the subject of why your friend would have suggested you avoid Windows 10:

There's any amount of reading on this subject to be found online, and I encourage everyone to study up. But, while 'forced updates', 'spying', and 'phoning home' seem to be getting a lot of mention, I find one aspect - perhaps the most insidious of all - isn't mentioned often.

It's the concept of "Windows as a Service", which - bet your bottom dollar, is precisely where all this is headed. And that term (Windows as a Service) is not something I made up. It's a real thing - check it out.

Many/most of us understand that we never really "owned" the software we use. The OS, apps, games, etc, - all were used under the terms of a 'license agreement', which means you had a license to use the software, but you didn't own anything.

But, even then, with OSes, if you bought a license for Windows back in the day, you could pretty much count on being able to use it for 6-8 years (or more) - depending on some particulars, which I'll not go into here.

Well, the most shocking aspect of Windows 10 to me is the concept that, eventually, you won't be buying a license in the sense you're used to. Windows is going to become a 'service', whereby you'll be forced to basically rent (renew your license) the software - on something like an annual service agreement. They provide the software to you as a service, much the same as cable TV or your cell phone.

And, like your phone, electricity etc...if you don't pay for a month or three, well, I'm going to go ahead and guess they'll cut you off. (This part is a guess, but it's not too far from reality I'm sure).

Anyone ever wonder why the new version of Office is called "365"? Anyone really not clear on what motivates all this, and why M$ is pushing so hard?

Right now I can (and have) bought Windows 7 licenses for <$65/unit. But, once it's deployed as a service, Windows could easily wind up being $9.95/mo...$19.95/mo...who knows, and (more important) when was the last time you had any say in what the cable or phone cost you? Even if it's only 4.95 a month, that's as much the FIRST YEAR as I've bought licenses for, and they don't require 'renewing'. I fully expect(ed) I'd get 6-8 years at least out of them...but, with a 'service' license scheme, I could pay 6-8 times that, for essentially the same thing.

So, for me, the worst part about Windows 10 isn't updates you can't control or harvesting your personal information (even though those are pretty f***ed up)...the worst part, by far, is the ultimate goal of all this is a subscription model.

Sorry for the disruption, but it's a distinction I felt important to make.

I'd respectfully recommend you seriously consider your friends advice.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 03:44 PM

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Eventually the entire world will be 'pay to play' from all indications. But who's to say for sure. In the end the powers-that-be at MicroSquish may be yet another bunch on the list of "first against the wall when the revolution comes".

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Posted By: Trooper117

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 07:11 PM

Originally Posted By: DukeIronHand
Thanks Trooper.
Any performance increases? If you could tell....


Not noticed any real performance changes... it plays as well as it always does.
As to loading times, I'd say it loads just the same as before the upgrade... I have no reason to change back to the old operating system.
Posted By: OldHat

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 07:28 PM

I figure at this point in time and with your hardware setup (and if your only game is WOFF), either operating system will serve you well. The downside to sticking with Windows 7 that I see is Microsoft will make programs like DirectX 12 which is compatible with Windows 10 and 8, but not 7. Then as time goes on, the more they make for Windows 10, the more the Windows 7 people will loose out.
Posted By: Hellshade

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 07:37 PM

+1 to what OldHat said. All the newer driver updates for video cards, etc will come out on Windows 10 first and some features for older OS like Windows 7 might not ever become available. At some point, it will be essentially required to move to Windows 10, which is why I did it while it's still free. If I have to go, at least I don't have to pay for it right now. I'm sure a subscription service to Windows 10 will eventually happen, but that's the way the industry is going...unless you only want to play games and then you can get a Steambox - which is just a whole other version of "big brother."
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 08:24 PM

Oh I am conflicted.
If someone could say "5% FPS improvement in W10 for WOFF" I would be there in a second but I have nothing to dislike about W7. Been quite stable and works with everything...so far...and WOFF plays fine.
Anyone know how long the "free upgrade" to W10 is going on for?
Posted By: CW3SF

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 09:48 PM

Duke, I am of the same mind in needing more information.

I still have a "boat load" of M$ nag ware and other downloads waiting for me to do something with.

If this is still gets positive comments over the next few days I will be tempted to go with Win 10.

The question I have now is how to proceed.Install all of my W$ stored downloads and then click on
the "blue box" and say yes to W10, followed by ---- and that is where I run out of knowledge on how to
proceed.

A road map of how to go from W7 to W10 would be nice.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 02/29/16 10:02 PM

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CW3SF, W10 is an entirely new OS, not an upgrade. As long as you have the prompt saying you can click and upgrade you shouldn't need to do anything with your W7. When W10 installs it will save your entire old W7 in a folder labelled 'window.old', just in case you wish to revert back. However, in a month it will dump that folder as it assumes you are happy with the new OS by then.

Keep in mind I am not advocating that you switch if you are content with your current set-up. I am only giving you info based on my recent switch.

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Posted By: hood

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 03/02/16 05:37 AM

As I previously mentioned I dumped W10 and went back to W7 because of extremely long boot times [just under 3 minutes on an SSD].With Russkly's encouragement I tried it again using the same upgrade method and now get a boot up of 23 seconds, 4 seconds faster than W7.
Computers are funny animals.
Posted By: Beanie

Re: WOFF and W10. Anyone having ANY issues? - 03/11/16 01:41 PM

I recently got a new gaming rig and have had no problems with WOFF.
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