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Albatros Dos Challenge

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/29/15 11:04 PM






Welcome to the Wings Over Flanders Fields Albatros Dos Challenge!

The assistance and camaraderie that you get from something like this or Olham's DiD Campaign or the Centenary Challenge if you are new to WOFF will help increase your enjoyment of the sim and make you a better pilot as well.

For this challenge, you will be flying for Germany as a lowly flieger in Jasta 12 smack in the middle of the war!

In order to participate in this challenge you must:
1. Declare your interest and intent in this thread on or before Saturday, September 5, 2015.
2. Create a pilot using the manual squad creation option with a start date of May1, 1917, flying for Germany in Jasta 12 with the rank of Flieger.
3. Commit to flying 3-7 missions per week with this pilot, but no more than one per campaign day.
4. Report at least every weekend in this topic thread with his current successes or failures.
5. Faithfully communicate to your brethren the falling of your avatar when such event actually transpires.



Please enter your pilot at this link:
( Survey Link )
Please update this survey after every few missions, or at least once a week!

This is kind of a "Who's Line Is It Anyway" sort of affair where we try to have fun with good people.
Reporting can be by any of the following methods:
-Text is good
-Pictures are better
-Videos are what this sim is made for!

There were some great reports and pictures and vids in the previous challenges, so look over them if you want some ideas!

This is single elimination, so one death and you are out. Keep in mind that even if you are not playing "dead is dead" in the workshop, at the end of each mission it will still tell you that "Sadly, your pilot has died" if his injuries were fatal so you don't need to switch your settings for this. If you land behind enemy lines with less than DID workshop settings, use these guidelines: in or on the edge of No Mans Land, you escape. Within 5 miles of the front, 50-50 (flip a coin). More than 5 miles behind the lines, you are captured, war over!

When you set up your pilot, click on "Manual Squad Deployment" in the lower right hand corner of the enlistment page. Set up the following screen so it looks like this:



Scoring:

Missions: +2 point each
Time survived: +2 points each week
Confirmed kill: +3 points each
Becoming an ace: +5 points (only once)
Promotion: +5 points each promotion
Medals: +3 points each
Survive to end of Challenge: +10 points
Wounding: -8 points each occurrence



This challenge will have a have a hard end date of Sunday, September 27. That gives us three weeks and a day. You can have a maximum of 23 missions total. Then we can tally the points and declare a winner. You are certainly free to continue to fly your pilot after that if still alive, but for point determination, we need a cut-off date.

The Fine Print: (Rules)
You may use whatever aids you are used to using. Wind should be set to “On”. Please set your weather to “Historical Weather.” Flight model should be realistic and you should have weapons jams and limited ammo and all that jazz...
One other point: I think we can all agree that balloons are too easy to take down as it stands, so on your Gentleman’s Honour, you may only claim a balloon if you are on a balloon busting mission and only the one that is the mission target.
Feel free to lead your flights if you want!


The point is to have fun and we had outstanding support and sportsmanship from all fliers last time and we would love to see some new faces!

As far as time advancement, please follow these guidelines:

Allow time to advance as normal except fly no more than one mission per campaign day (time advance manually as necessary)
For every month of campaign time, you can advance two days on the calendar. (48hr pass to visit mum)
For every promotion, advance five campaign days.
For every five kills, advance 3 campaign days.
For becoming an ace, advance 3 campaign days (cumulative with 5 kills above)


At the end of the challenge, I will tabulate the winning pilot overall and declare him king of all things Albatros (you can duke it out with Olham…)
I haven’t come up with a prize yet, but we will have something. If anyone wants to sponsor the prize, please let me know! ***Update! No less a gentleman than our own Robert Wiggins has just offered up a new copy of "Ace of the Black Cross" The memoirs of Ernst Udet for a prize! Thank you, Robert!!!*** Louvert has also offered to design a custom plane paint job for the winner!!!

Remember though, your first job is to stay alive! You can’t win if you are dead! If I survive, it will be the first one I have finished!

We are starting with the Albatros DII and several of us should survive to get the DIII, so please paint your scout early and often! I know we are all looking forward to some inspired schemes!


Official challenge start time is Saturday, September 5 whenever that starts local to you, grab some QC time in your bird and we’ll be (W)OFF!


I will update this area with pilots and scores as the challenge progresses, so you can always check here for the latest info…


List of Pilots:
carrick58
Rick Rawlings
MudWasp
MFair
Banjoman
CatKnight
Smosh
gaw1
corsaire31
loftyc
RAF_Louvert
Fullofit
Nietzsche
Robert Wiggins
HarryH
Maeran
lederhosen
Olham whoohoo
LowDrag

Strikethrough indicates a pilot's demise, d.n.p. = did not participate, number to the right of the pilot is the final score

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/29/15 11:15 PM

thumbsup

Great Idea Mr. Rawlings. whoohoo Count me in.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/29/15 11:22 PM

Originally Posted By: carrick58
thumbsup

Great Idea Mr. Rawlings. whoohoo Count me in.


You, Sir, are number 1!

winner
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/29/15 11:33 PM

Looks like a fun time! Count me in.
Jasta 12.....weren't we hooked up with them in a prior challenge?

Hey Rick, random engine failures on?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/29/15 11:54 PM

Yes, and yes!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 12:24 AM

Oh Yes! Would not miss it!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 12:48 AM

Now I remember..... the Black-Tails of Jasta 12 yep
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 01:01 AM

Count me in, I haven't died as a German in a long time. biggrin
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 01:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
Count me in, I haven't died as a German in a long time. biggrin


Well, if my quick combats are any indication, we can fix that fast!
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 02:42 AM

Wow Rick, I never knew that about the Albatros Flug....Fluge.....Albatros Aircraft Company!

Life's been a bit of a mess lately, but I think I can make time to die for Der Vaterland.
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 02:43 AM

Reporting for duty salute
Posted By: CW3SF

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 04:08 AM

I will be Elk hunting with my son and grandson near Steamboat Springs Colorado from 12 Sept. to 20 Sept.
With the setting up camp before, taking camp out after the hunt, and packing out the Elk as we get them,there
will be no time for flying.

BUMMER!!

Buy late Sept. all of the butchering should be done and the fall cold snap will have us moving south to AZ
for the winter come mid Oct.

By then I will be ready to have at it with the next challange.

And, many thanks to all of you who offered to help with a disk of 2.12.

This is a great bunch of folks who wander about these threads.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 04:27 AM

CatKnight, it's really a poorly studied period of German history. Hasse and Louvert could tell you all about it, I'm sure! Great to have you and Smosh aboard!

CW3SF salute the mighty fallen elk that you harvest for us, we'll catch you when we can!
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatross Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 07:26 AM

Damn, an "Albatros Competition" without "Albatros-Man".
It's a shame I can't be in there, Rick, it's a great idea.
But I'm still in treatment and do not know, when I will be discharged and fully back home.

So I can only wish all pilots a really good time and good success - Jasta 12 was a good unit.





Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatross Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 11:53 AM

Rick.....good show....this'll stir things up....sign me up please!!! Olham.....tell 'em you need your computer for therapeutic purposes....I know I do. Heeeeere we go...........
Posted By: Hasse

Re: Albatross Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 12:59 PM

When you mentioned DOS, I thought this would be a Red Baron 1 challenge. biggrin

I won't have time to participate, but these challenges are always fun to watch!
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatross Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 01:02 PM

Originally Posted By: gaw1
Olham.....tell 'em you need your computer for therapeutic purposes....I know I do.

Haha, yeah, they might even encourage me. But I'm not fit for full duties yet.
Give me some more time, and enjoy this challenge as much as I would.
Posted By: ArisFuser

Re: Albatross Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 01:24 PM

Sadly, even if I feel myself quite confident flying these beauties (specially at the time frame of the challenge), I can´t guarantee I will manage to fly 3 times a week. New job, lots of tasks to do,...sigh. Enjoy guys, and beware of the Strutters!!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatross Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 01:30 PM

Ha! Nice, Hasse, never looked at it that way! We actually did do a couple of Red Baron 1 Challenges back in the day when they released the mission builder add on...
Great video, Olham, thanks for posting!
Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 02:41 PM

This will drag Olham back into the world of the living!
Posted By: Olham

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 03:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Hauksbee
This will drag Olham back into the world of the living!

I guess it starts too early for me to join in (5 September ?).
You can't always get what you want.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 04:12 PM

If this was a real DOS challenge, this is how it would like:



The Western Front.



A brave aviator.



The Albatros D.II. It doesn't look quite the same as in WOFF, but it was state of the art back in 1991!

Sorry, I'll stop hijacking the thread now. Carry on! biggrin
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Hasse
The Albatros D.II.
It doesn't look quite the same as in WOFF, but it was state of the art back in 1991!

...and we were immersed in such pixel worlds! I can still hum the music of "Wings"...
Haven't we come a long way? Thanks for your long breath, OBD!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 04:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: Hauksbee
This will drag Olham back into the world of the living!

I guess it starts too early for me to join in (5 September ?).
You can't always get what you want.


Eh, well it runs to the 27th, if you want to honorarily join in, you can fly some later in the month if you are up to it...

*edit: Hasse, I remember back in those days where you could choose from about five colors and four locations to paint your scout!

*edit part 2: Oh, and I can't tell if you guys are serious or not, but it is dos as in uno, dos, tres; this is the second dedicated Albatros challenge we have done...
Posted By: Olham

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 04:29 PM

Thank you, Rick, I will see if and when I may be able to join.
I'd join out of competition then, just for the fun of taking part.
Posted By: Hasse

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

*edit part 2: Oh, and I can't tell if you guys are serious or not, but it is dos as in uno, dos, tres; this is the second dedicated Albatros challenge we have done...


We're always serious! smash
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 05:04 PM

Long time I haven't been able to take part in a WOFF challenge, so I would be interested to try this one (although my lack of practice these last months might lead me to an early end...)

I have some free time before I start my FSX tour of Australia end of September.

I'm still flying with 1.26 version, would that be a problem ?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 05:32 PM

Wohoo! corsaire is in!!

I don't think so, but no pretty sunsets is tant pis, n'est-ce pas?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 05:42 PM

Ok, I've been sitting on this character since the Anniversary Challenge when I went British to even out the numbers, so I am glad I got a chance to use him. Here is:

Steinhoff Lowenbrau, Pride of Munich, 4th son of Anheuser Lowenbrau, the renowned Brewster, is volunteering to serve his country in this time of its patriotic need! Not wanting to use his fame and family name unfairly, he has enlisted as a lowly Flieger ready to do his part. His only concession to vanity is to paint his scout in the style of his favorite pastime:



I predict there will be a lot of this in the future: beercheers followed by this: bottles maybe even some of this: dancinfools and, if history holds, probably this: goodnight
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 05:44 PM

OK then count me in ! smile2

After finishing my Aeropostale reflight ( http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4006991/1 ) I flew down the Amazona river to the ocean with an amphib plane ( http://forum.mutleyshangar.com/index.php/topic/16638-amazonas-2015/ )

Then it was summertime and holidays, which meant almost no flying as I wasn't much home.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 08/30/15 05:51 PM

Dang, now I'm feeling sad that Olham won't be flying an Albatros in this challenge.sigh
Please drop by with some hints, flying tips, and encouragement for the rest of us.
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 07:18 PM

Rick, in the opening photo, what Shaders and/or Sweetfx are you using - it looks almost real!

Anyway, Flieger Colerhedge reporting for duty:
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 07:36 PM

Great pilot pic thumbsup
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 07:38 PM

Thanks, man, I just hit it with a little Crayola, really seemed to make it pop...

Sam has a certain dignity about him, well played!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 07:52 PM

That is a cool paint, Rick!


To Suds and Spandaus beercheers
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 08:07 PM


Another challenge? Outstanding, Rick! I'll get the participation medal ready for you Sir.

My pilot is a fine young Bavarian who served in the Bayerische Landwehr Infanterie before being allowed to transfer to the Fliegertruppen.




Being fully proud of his heritage he's had his mount emblazoned with his kingdom's colours along with his surname initial.



I look forward to the kickoff. Here's to long and illustrious careers for all concenred.

Zicke zacke, zicke zacke, hoi hoi hoi!
Zicke zacke, zicke zacke, hoi hoi hoi!
Zicke zacke, zicke zacke, hoi hoi hoi!
PROST! cheers

.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 09:41 PM

What should we set the claims and promotions in Workshop? Normal or Easy?
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 10:11 PM

Rick.....may an Olham challenge be suggested? The day of the lad's release from hospital....a new dedicated all Albatri cluster f...! What could be better? That'll tax the true bloods....finishing out the Dos while commencing the Olham experience. A welcome back I'll sign up for NOW!!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 10:14 PM

Here is my pilot. As soon as I figure out why my paint job will not show up, it will be up also.

Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 10:51 PM

Well, it only took 3 attempts and next to Lou's usual great skin, its a little feeble but what the hey!

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 11:04 PM

Geez, MFair, that looks great! Nothing to be ashamed of there! Great pilot pic, too! He looks like a rock star! winkngrin

Welcome aboard, Louvert!

Fullofit, are you announcing you're in? I am going to set mine to the hardest, whatever it is, for the duration of the challenge, seems to give too much of an advantage otherwise...
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 11:18 PM

Rick, I'll try to squeeze it in along with my 2 centenary challenge pilots. It shouldn't take long. Those Pups and SE 5's will make short work of me in my D II in record time.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/30/15 11:30 PM

Hee, in the quick combats I was running, even the Nieuports seemed to be able to out run me!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 12:16 AM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Geez, MFair, that looks great! Nothing to be ashamed of there! Great pilot pic, too! He looks like a rock star! winkngrin

Welcome aboard, Louvert!

Fullofit, are you announcing you're in? I am going to set mine to the hardest, whatever it is, for the duration of the challenge, seems to give too much of an advantage otherwise...


Well thank you Sir! What little I know about decorating planes, I learned from you.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 02:02 PM

Whoops!
Nearly missed that...
I'm in charge

By the Way: Good Thing, Olham just wants to participate for Fun... that's like Michael Schumacher joining a local Cart-Race...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 04:58 PM

wave

I agree, We need the Experten in the Albatros Scouts even if he flys for fun!

MFair and Lou: Great looing DII,s

One question should we do a DIII in case we last that long ?
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 06:10 PM

A question, since it is easier than real-life to get multiple kills in a mission, are we limiting ourselves to just one per mission like the DID campaigns?

Rick, if I didn't ask at least one question then what kind of challenge would it be. biggrin
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 07:25 PM

thumbsup





These are shots of my Kite I played around with the second shot colors. I dont really know what its going to look like in the game. Thankgoodness for the sticky of Mr. Rawlings Skining Tutorial .


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I guess this is the final look with normal FRAPS Color/Untitled_D_II_Test in the bottom pic.

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 08:15 PM

popcorn


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Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 10:06 PM

C....totally badass! Must skin....to try and keep up! Beautiful....
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 10:58 PM

As with all pilots under my command, Flieger Colerhedge will bear the Winged Wiener.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 11:02 PM

carrick 58, That's Awesome!!! Well done! And yes, hopefully, most of us will survive to get the DIII, it shows up in the middle of the month...

Banjoman, no, with the exception of balloons as outlined in the rules, you are free to have at them!

Nietzsche, welcome aboard!

*edit:, you ninja'd me, nice scout, loftyc
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 11:16 PM

***Update! No less a gentleman than our own Robert Wiggins has just offered up a new copy of "Ace of the Black Cross", the memoirs of Ernst Udet for a prize! Thank you, Robert!!!***

edit: Erma Doofus
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 11:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
***Update! No less a gentleman than our own Robert Wiggins has just offered up a new copy of "Knight of the Black Cross", the memoirs of Ernst Udet for a prize! Thank you, Robert!!!***


Ahem!... Let me correct the typo, it is "Ace of the Black Cross", but as they say, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet! biggrin
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 08/31/15 11:59 PM

That's not a typo, that's just me not being able to hold a thought in my head for more than 30 seconds, but thanks for being kind! thumbsup
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 12:10 AM

.

No worries there Rick, that book was called "Ace of the Iron Cross" in it's first published incarnation. And well done Robert on offering up an edition as a prize. I'd be happy to sweeten the pot with a custom skin for the winner's favorite WOFF kite as well.

.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 02:27 AM

Here's my pilot for the meat grinder and his ride.





Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 02:54 AM

wave

Thanks Gaw1, I am sure yours will be much nicer . I am still a newbie at skinning. In fact, if I didn't re-watch Mr. Rawlings ' skinning tutorial every time, I cant get her done. Along with the skinning tips Herr Olham has passed to me over the years.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 02:58 AM

jawdrop Banjoman,and loftyC, and , Rawlings : Great looking rides.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 03:59 AM

thumbsup Great looking paints!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 03:30 PM

Looks like my new Character is in good Company...

A Friend of mine is a Whistleblower within the German Geheimdienst, and he was able to hand over 2 Documents, that help to unravel some more dark Secrets of the Kaiser... we already had UFOs - now take a look at that!


Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 04:33 PM

Nietzsche;

You are killing me rofl

Nice creativity though!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 05:40 PM

Ok, I'm in Rick!

When will you be updating the online link for the data collection?





Tally Ho!! ..... er, um ...... Ubereifrig!! sigh

Oh, and Rick, having just watched your video intro to the challenge I must say I was very much impressed and entertained. You definitely have all the qualifications as a BOC member Sir! I am proud of you, which reminds me, I must try to locate the cricket bat before Lou asks me to produce it. I believe my wife borrowed it for crushing those gigantic garlic buds we grew this year.

Cheers.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 06:21 PM

reading


Looking good Mr. Wiggins
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 06:52 PM

That is a GREAT backstory Nietzsche yep
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 11:07 PM

Jesus wept......I forgot what an infernal nuisance it was going back to school having to make out that lo-res skinning tutorial and re-learn what I should have remembered from last time i did it. Progress....will report with painted bird to be slaughtered by the infernal Allies. Onward..........
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 11:33 PM

Aha! Nietzsche! A knight of the black cross! I knew I got it from somewhere, Robert! Thanks for the kind words on the intro video, sometimes I feel like I run the challenges just so I can make a new ridiculous video... the survey is done, I was just waiting for everyone to join up so I could put their forum names in. I'll see if I can get it posted tonight after I help the kids with their homework dizzy
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/01/15 11:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Aha! Nietzsche! A knight of the black cross! I knew I got it from somewhere, Robert! Thanks for the kind words on the intro video, sometimes I feel like I run the challenges just so I can make a new ridiculous video... the survey is done, I was just waiting for everyone to join up so I could put their forum names in. I'll see if I can get it posted tonight after I help the kids with their homework dizzy


Right you are, mentor!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 12:54 AM

Finally got around to creating my new pilot for the challenge.



And created my first ever skin. That video is a godsend.
The story goes Otto von Trabant abhorred manual labor, so he would never paint his own mount. He left that job to his manservant. When he was asked what to do, Otto answered to just use whatever he had at hand. It just happened that the manservant was holding a sponge after giving Otto his daily sponge bath and that's what he used to paint the fuselage. Otto wasn't too impressed, but let it go. He just requested to add "T" for family name and that was it. The rest is history.

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 01:04 AM

Nice! That's a much better first start than mine was!

*edit: survey is up, guys!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 01:06 AM

Nice suttle patterns and simplicity of design Fullofit! I like it.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 01:15 AM



Whoops, in case you missed it on the last page:

survey is up, guys!

That reminds me, MudWasp, you still haven't posted a picture of that damn mug from last time! I wanted to see if it came out ok! hahaha
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 01:20 AM

Thanks guys. The manservant tried hard.

We need "death by engine fire" entry in the survey.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 01:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Thanks guys. The manservant tried hard.

We need "death by engine fire" entry in the survey.


And don't forget "Death by collision"!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 01:50 AM

Collisions are in there, both foe and *grr* friend. I can add fire though!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings


Whoops, in case you missed it on the last page:

survey is up, guys!

That reminds me, MudWasp, you still haven't posted a picture of that damn mug from last time! I wanted to see if it came out ok! hahaha



bananadance Will do so.
Pics I had wre wiuth Squirt da Cat, she died....feline Lukeniama or some such soirt Cat Killer.

That Mug is well used yep

All my pics of it were with Squirt da cat, now dead cat....

The Krazy Cat Guy is due for a batch of Kittens.....
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 02:32 AM

We had a few cats lost to feline leukemia over the years, here's to new cats to come! cheers
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 03:00 AM

Yep, she just wasted away ..or slip sliding...
I like slip sliding in a two seater when it brings the rear gunner on target.

Had a slip sliding tune in my head, enjoyed it and went Chicago.

Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 03:53 AM

Damm I love old Chicago tunes....

Saturday in the Park .... homemade rockets soaring into the sky...and paper airplanes set afire with firecrackers on board....guess all 'the adults' were too bust to stupervise our activities..

and just walking down the street without a care of time, went by the sun in the sky....

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 04:23 AM

wave

Fulofit: Good Skin. My 1st one was a diaster
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 11:46 AM

Just a brief visit home today - the clinic personnel have a staff outing this afternoon.
(I do not dare to imagine how a staff outing of a psychiatry might be... winkngrin )

So many great skins and pilot pics here!
Rick, is that you?
I used to think I was good-looking (in my 20s...), but you definitely beat me! winkngrin

MFair, you look like a rock star indeed! band
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 12:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Just a brief visit home today - the clinic personnel have a staff outing this afternoon.
(I do not dare to imagine how a staff outing of a psychiatry might be... winkngrin )

So many great skins and pilot pics here!
Rick, is that you?
I used to think I was good-looking (in my 20s...), but you definitely beat me! winkngrin

MFair, you look like a rock star indeed! band



Well, it was me, about 18 years ago! Except I borrowed the moustache, which really ties my face together...

Congrats on the trip home, remember not to try to rush things, just go at your own pace and keep moving forward!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 01:21 PM

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Really Rick, just a mustache? It takes a mustache, a full beard, and glasses to tie my face together. Truth be told, it take several glasses.

Olham, enjoy the visit home today. Here's hoping you'll be home for keeps in the very near future.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 01:34 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
Really Rick, just a mustache?
It takes a mustache, a full beard, and glasses to tie my face together. Truth be told, it take several glasses.

Mmuahahahahaaa!!!

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
Olham, enjoy the visit home today.
Here's hoping you'll be home for keeps in the very near future.

Thanks, Lou - time will tell.
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 02:08 PM

OK....John Dory....(classic German name) reporting for duty....soon to become fish sticks I'm sure


Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 02:48 PM

Hmm, there's something fishy about that plane... rofl rofl rofl

phew! Nice one, gaw1
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 03:06 PM

HA......lame, I know, but it gets me up in the air....much good may it do me. 1st mission managed to clip 1 Strutter before we were bounced by Spads which shot us all to ribbons. Nobody dead but we lost 6 out of 6 planes....including this coward who landed next to some train tracks with 2 spads chewing holes in the wings...

Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 04:33 PM

I'm really looking forward to read Colerhedges' Backstory...
Is he a Product of the secret "Kaiserliches Genetik und Biolabor" - K.G.B. - with the Goal to enhance Pilot Performance?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 05:21 PM

wave

Good Skin, Gaw1
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 06:49 PM

popcorn

If I can make the challenge to the D-III early. This is the Kite I will use. ( Most Likely ).


photo sharing
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Really Rick, just a mustache? It takes a mustache, a full beard, and glasses to tie my face together. Truth be told, it take several glasses.

Olham, enjoy the visit home today. Here's hoping you'll be home for keeps in the very near future.

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Ah, Lou, ...there I go reading between the lines again!! "Several glasses"??? Of what, I could only guess!! biggrin
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 07:09 PM

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Hmmmm, of what? Let's see. It's late summer and the fruit trees are full, the weather is hot but the geese are already starting to flock telling us that fall is not far off. Something that plays off the fruits of the season I should think, is light yet still rich, and with a hint of sweetness to it. I'm going with a Tomintoul 27.

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Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
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Hmmmm, of what? Let's see. It's late summer and the fruit trees are full, the weather is hot but the geese are already starting to flock telling us that fall is not far off. Something that plays off the fruits of the season I should think, is light yet still rich, and with a hint of sweetness to it. I'm going with a Tomintoul 27.

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Ah, that one is not in my cellar. From my ref material, that one reads well

Light & fragrant, floral, fruity
Nose: grassy perfumed, lemony with a sweetish taste and lingering cereal and nuts finish that is short lived.

Must look for that one at my next tasting!!

Cheers
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 07:51 PM

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It's one of the young distilleries, having only been around for the last fifty years. But it's association with Glenlivet gifts it with older credentials.

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Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 08:00 PM

Carrick....now YOURs is a nice skin!!! More effort than my paltry pasting of a ludicrous fish on a wing took but after going back to skinning school for the 5th time....I grew tired of sitting in the corner w/ my dunce cap on.
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 08:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Well, it was me, about 18 years ago! Except I borrowed the moustache, which really ties my face together...

Congrats on the trip home, remember not to try to rush things, just go at your own pace and keep moving forward!


I guess to tie my face together, I would need something like this:

Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted By: gaw1
Carrick....now YOURs is a nice skin!!! More effort than my paltry pasting of a ludicrous fish on a wing took but after going back to skinning school for the 5th time....I grew tired of sitting in the corner w/ my dunce cap on.


gaw, perhaps you will win the challenge and collect on the offer of another custom skin painted by yours truly. And though no one has even acknowledged said offer made by yours truly, it none-the-less stands, and perhaps you will be the one to claim the prize - again.

biggrin

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Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 10:48 PM

Crikey.....if pigs had wings! 4 missions in and scraped thru so far by the grace of God...and duck and cover. Still love your bad fish from a while back...and lost it...usual reasons. If you have it still....I'd trade a John Dory for your old skin any day if I ever make DIII. Do please send it along if it's still in your system. I loved that skin!!
Cheers.....bonne chance!!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/02/15 10:52 PM

Originally Posted By: carrick58
popcorn

If I can make the challenge to the D-III early. This is the Kite I will use. ( Most Likely ).


photo sharing


Jeez, you are becoming quite an accomplished skinner! That looks really well thought out and executed!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 03:06 AM

reading


I will accept that as a compliment. Thanks. If the truth be known, It was more by accident than on purpose. I was trying to do the complete body but, I couldn't get it to work. However, I found that by doing 50 % less it worked out just fine. This was in addition to re-viewing your Tutorial and thinking about Herr Olham's and Others Tips on skinning. I can see where Skinning is a labor of love and is fought with challenges. thumbsup
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 03:12 AM

My pilot comes from a long line of bratwurst chefs.




His crate's design is pretty simple. I didn't want to stray too far from the coloring of my new team. The lucky horseshoe (stolen from an NFL-Indianapolis Colts helmet) is a little large, but I can make it work. Behind him is a stock Jasta 12 Alb D.II for comparison.




Another comparison of the top half. The upper fuselage is reddish due to that coloring on the rudder. I didn't think camo would go well with a black fuselage so greyed it out.



An interesting side effect is my stabilizer is entirely invisible when flying over clouds.

I did very little with the lower fuselage, intentionally because of the wooden coloring of part of the rudder.




I've probably done better (I've definitely done worse) but I like the simple aesthetics.

Let's fly!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 03:15 AM

yep

Looking good.
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/03/15 04:35 AM

Rick, wonderful idea, I'm in. Now I need to go and study your skinning tutorial, to see if I can come up with something, in time for the start!

H
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/03/15 05:09 AM

Glad you're on board! Have a go at it and throw up any questions you have and we'll see if we can help!

I hope a horseshoe that big brings us all luck, CatKnight! thumbsup
Posted By: Maeran

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/03/15 08:01 AM

Since September is likely to have very little flying in DiD and I'm finding my German pilot in the Centennial too boring to fly, I'm in for this one.



I have been working on a skin for von BonBon, but I'm not happy with what I have yet. Hopefully I will show something decent before he dies.
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/03/15 10:10 AM

@ Maeran :

Watch out, enlistment date is May 1st, not April !
Posted By: Maeran

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/03/15 10:42 AM

Oh? I must have not clicked along enough!
I'll advance it a month.
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted By: gaw1
.....Still love your bad fish from a while back...and lost it...usual reasons. If you have it still....I'd trade a John Dory for your old skin any day if I ever make DIII. Do please send it along if it's still in your system. I loved that skin!!
Cheers.....bonne chance!!


gaw, I save everything, (and my place looks like it), so of course I still have your livery from the last challenge. You have mail Sir, and in your mail is not only the skin you requested but a little something extra you may find useful right about now:



Enjoy!

Lou

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 12:32 PM

Maeran, welcome aboard, Lou, very thoughtful of you! salute
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 12:39 PM

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Rick, it was a simple one to knock together as I had the graphics built from gaw's prize of last year:




Also Rick, as it looks like you missed my earlier post in this thread, I have again offered a custom skin as a prize for this challenge, to complement the wonderful book Robert has graciously offered.

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Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 12:59 PM

You folks are doing some wonderful work. Nice skins. Thank you Robert and Lou for your generosity!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 12:59 PM

Aha! If you look under the prize section in the introduction post, you will notice I added it some time ago! duel salute
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 01:04 PM

I know it's Summer, but I'll wear my Winter-Coat anyway. I like it.


Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 01:05 PM

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hee hee, shows how observant I can be Rick. More coffee - STAT! biggrin

Mark, you are more than welcome, and thank you for your generosity as well Sir.

EDIT: Nietzsche, you snuck that one in while I was posting. Very interesting camo, has an almost naval quality to it. Well done.

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Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 01:34 PM

Thanks, Lou :-)
We had this Discussion a While ago, where we wondered, why no Plane was using these "Battleship-Camos". Well, one was using it (at least some Kind of) - we all have a Picture of it. It appears from Time to Time on the "Waiting-Screen", when flying for the Entente...
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 01:38 PM

Originally Posted By: gaw1
Carrick....now YOURs is a nice skin!!! More effort than my paltry pasting of a ludicrous fish on a wing took but after going back to skinning school for the 5th time....I grew tired of sitting in the corner w/ my dunce cap on.


Now it's my turn to revisit the skinning tutorial video. dizzy
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 02:36 PM

Maeren, don't give up on the Centenary DID campaign, we need you and things are just starting to heat up.
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 02:49 PM

This snake changed his skin...if that's permissible...same pilot, same discreditable career arc. Thanks RAF.....I do love that eel!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 02:56 PM

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You are quite welcome Gordy, glad you like it. BTW, is that a Strutter you and your wingman are having a go-round with? Between you two and the Archie it doesn't look like that Sop has a prayer.

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Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 03:11 PM

It is.....I did manage to bag him......no doubt poaching on someone else's work. One of those single gun forward chaps....easy meat....a welcome break from those impossible Noops darting about or the terrifying Spads. Seems the lumbering D2 is no kind of match for a Spad and I've yet to find an angle that works.....running's no good as the Spad's a LOT faster. I cravenly dart for the dirt and land to sneak out another day and shoot someone in the back......hell of a war!!!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 03:36 PM

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The D2 rolls well and responds fairly quickly when you haul back on the stick. Use this against both the Nieup and the SPAD by going into a shallow dive and allowing them to commit to their following attack, then roll to their weak side and pull back, (their weak side being whichever one they are attacking from). If you time it properly your attacker will often blow by you and if you are quick you can fall in behind them long enough for a gun burst or two. Just be sure you don't burn off your speed as you will need it to continue this process until you have either vanquished your foe or find the need to bravely run away.

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Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 03:38 PM

Gaw, use a "Roller-Coaster-Turn": Go down for gaining Speed, then simultaneously go up while flying a sharp turn (...and go down at the End of the Turn again). AI does that quite often with all Albs, works great. The Ns and Spads mostly try to outmaneuver you by flying a tight "Normal Curve", but they cannot get you that Way.
When they loose Interest and turn away, you need an Average of 100 (x2) Rounds for a Lucky Hit @ +/- 100 Meters (Setting: Less Accurate), to make him perform an evasive Maneuver (usually a full 360 with Loss of Altitude), that helps you pinning him down.
To relativize this: Expect the Unexpected.
AI does react this Way often, but we all know, that there are too many Factors in the Game for making anything predictable...

Hah! Lou is as fast with posting as he is on the Trigger biggrin
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
Hah! Lou is as fast with posting as he is on the Trigger biggrin


Some days Nietzsche - only some days. smile2
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Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 07:31 PM

messed up the saving part....again....but got it sorted out.



Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 08:48 PM

Thanks gents.....roll to the weak side it is!!! Those cads don't stand a chance now....be such a pleasure to put a few into a Spad. Will report back w/ results!!!
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 09:15 PM

I'm in too.
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 09:58 PM

Zounds!!....that advice worked really well! Thank you....took about 9 rounds of roller coaster but eventually manged to put a few into a Spad and finish him off at ground level....QC practice....on to the the Challenge...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 10:47 PM

Gaw, don't get too cockey and self assured! Stay alert mate!

MudWasp, nice skin! I like the simplicity and colour tones!

Lederhosen, welcome to the fray.

If nothing else, this challenge will put all of us on the same side! Isn't that unique!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 10:52 PM

ATTENTION!

If you haven't considered it already, may I suggest you all download my latest FM Mod from the official WOFF site and use it in the challenge. I am sure you will find that it will enhance the handling characteristics of the Albatros. It is JSGME ready and self installing. It won't help you with the DII but will if you get to the DIII early.

Best Regards;
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 11:01 PM

Manfred Fuchs wanted to be all dressed up for the party. Here is his spare machine. "The Snake"



Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 11:37 PM

MFair, I say, that skin would make a wonderful seersucker jacket for Les Nesman! biggrin
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/03/15 11:54 PM

Wow, some lovely skins!

By contrast, my modest first effort celebrates my high flying "Eagles" from South London....

Cristen Pallitz will play both left wing and right wing, in his newly decorated Albatros DII....




Harry
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 12:13 AM

Great start, HarryH, lederhosen, welcome back! Nietzsche, MFair, great work! Robert, I almost never fly on the German side, I am really looking forward to it!

*edit: and MudWasp too! A lot of posts today!
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 12:16 AM

Great tutorial, Rick!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 01:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
MFair, I say, that skin would make a wonderful seersucker jacket for Les Nesman! biggrin


I was thinking more of a bikini for Jennifer!
Posted By: Raine

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 01:23 AM

Originally Posted By: HarryH
By contrast, my modest first effort celebrates my high flying "Eagles" from South London....


Harry, I'm curious about the reference to "Eagles" from South London. My great grandmother's surname was Eagles and the family was from South London. Any connection?
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 02:29 AM

MFair, nice skin. I thought you said you weren't any good at skinning planes, I think you were just pulling my leg. biggrin
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 03:32 AM

yep

The Skins are looking great guys. A well done to all. thumbsup
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 05:31 AM

Ok guys, I think everyone is updated on the introductory post and the Survey Link. Please check and make sure before we kick this thing off!
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 05:44 AM

Rick: Your survey REQUIRES people to answer whether they survived the whole challenge (even though it hasn't begun yet), and how they died (even if you select 'Survived whole challenge')
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 05:59 AM

do it!! DO IT!!! Yeah, I'll change that, think it was the default, nice catch! salute
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 01:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
MFair, nice skin. I thought you said you weren't any good at skinning planes, I think you were just pulling my leg. biggrin


Well, I have been practicing. As HarryH says, Rick put up a great tutorial. I never would have made to 1st base without it.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 01:52 PM

Jim;

have a look:

Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 01:56 PM

Hi Rick, just a quick question about time advancement rule after getting 5 kills and promitions. Is it mandatory or voluntary?
Posted By: gaw1

Re: when it rains.... - 09/04/15 03:22 PM

Well...that swoop and loop business has succeeded beyond my most fervent hopes. In a scrape w/ a flock of Pups here's 1 of 7 kills for the outing...I swear....all settings cool

...for my good fortune I've been upped to a DIII and had a gong hung on my shabby uniform...here's the new ride

....here's Johann Dory to date...

....sorry about the rush all....I leave for work tomorrow....not home for 2 wks...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: when it rains.... - 09/04/15 03:44 PM

Gaw, leave some for the rest of us!! You will be a hard man to catch up with!

Cheers
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 03:57 PM

absurd.....I've seen you guys at work....I'll be left in the dust. 7 kills one mission is a record for me at any time. Thrashed 3 in the air...they were all headed home (not landing) and never flinched as I moved up the line until #3 went up in flames....must have peppered 3 others who crashed out of sight I suppose....and in a fit of chivalry....gave a cripple on the ground the chop in no mans land before sulking off home.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 04:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Hi Rick, just a quick question about time advancement rule after getting 5 kills and promitions. Is it mandatory or voluntary?


It's not mandatory, it will boost your score though, if you care about such things. I think gaw1 has this in the bag already anyway!

The survey should be fixed now, thanks guys! Good hunting!
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 04:12 PM

Rick, I'm with you, it looks like gaw1 has already wrapped this up.
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 04:23 PM

that tears it....I've officially jinxed myself.....I beg pardon...I fully expect to auger in shortly!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 04:33 PM

Originally Posted By: gaw1
that tears it....I've officially jinxed myself.....I beg pardon...I fully expect to auger in shortly!


No, no, Stay on target!
"Gold Five to Red Leader! Lost Tiree; lost Hutch!"
Stay on Target!
"They came from behind!"
Stay on Target!
xwing
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 04:45 PM

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"I think I'm on fire."
Stay on target.
"My ship just exploded."
Stay on target.
"Yup, I'm dead."
Stay on target.
"Gawd you're a putz."
Stay on target.
"I hate you."
Stay on target.

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Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 05:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

That reminds me, MudWasp, you still haven't posted a picture of that damn mug from last time! I wanted to see if it came out ok! hahaha


Hey, I found the cable that connects between the computer and the camera. Mug and Squirt da Cat
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Raine
Originally Posted By: HarryH
By contrast, my modest first effort celebrates my high flying "Eagles" from South London....


Harry, I'm curious about the reference to "Eagles" from South London. My great grandmother's surname was Eagles and the family was from South London. Any connection?


Ah, not unless she played football smile My "Eagles" are Crystal Palace, currently sitting in 2nd place in the Premier League. I used to watch them as a kid, and now I'm watching them again, thanks to a) the BPL being shown live on NBC, and b) them being good enough to play in the BPL! They were a lowly third division club back in my childhood days. Affectionately known to their fans as "the Eagles".

Here's hoping that my pilot, Cristen Pallitz, can give a reasonable account of himself in the upcoming challenge smile

H
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 05:41 PM

@ Mudwasp :

Nice pic, your Squirt seems to be a brother of my own cat ! yep

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 06:02 PM

That looks pretty good, MudWasp! A toast to Squirt in the great beyond: cheers
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 07:23 PM

Yeah Corsaire, they could pass as litter mates.
Thanks Rick, I miss the little runt. Plenty of cats at a nearby farm, should be another litter due soon, or already born and in a sheltered spot. Stopped by a few days ago and Gary wasn't there. The cats came out to greet me anyways. I tossed some cat food out that i brought and played with adults and some 1/2 growns.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 08:30 PM

Hey, it's September 5th in Tbilisi, Georgia! Let's light this candle!!!!!
charge
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/04/15 10:51 PM

Nice cats all.....I must be the worst team mate ever.....almost everybody's dead after every mission. I help where I can but Crikey....left alone after a furball...what's a monster to do? 3 milk runs followed by an enemy lines mission...15 Noops on 5 Alb......I gave 'em a squirt and fled....2 days in the repair shop!!!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 12:05 AM

What a way to start a career! First combat mission and they almost buried me!



1 May 1917 @ 08h15 Patrol our lines between Thelus and Athies

At briefing we were advised the wind would be 6 kn from the NW, and we would have towering cumulous from 609 to 1800 m. This was to be my first mission with Jasta 12. My initiation so to speak.

Kallwell lead the flight with Stroh, Jorke, Kaisenberg, myself and Drescher as rottenflieger. We formed up east of the field at 9100 ft and headed for Thelus.
At Thelus we turned south east towards Athies and then returned back to Thelus on the same leg. No enemy craft were encountered and Kallwell gave the signal to scrub the mission and return to base. I broke first over our field and quick descent, then headed east a bit to test my guns and sighting on some ground. I then banked back towards the base and was first to land. I waited for the rest of the squadron to come down and watched horrified as Kaisenburg came trundling down the runway directly aimed at my tail. I waited for him to divert left or right but he kept coming and chewed up the tail of my DII, shaking the hell out of me. I had visions of his prop chewing me up. I jumped clear of my cockpit as quickly as I could and rushed over to his cockpit. It seems he was fine and just exiting it as I arrived. I just stood there looking at him with my hands on my hips as he turned around to face me. All he said was, “you should be getting your DIII early Ernst, thanks to me. I don’t want to hear any thank you, just buy me a few pilsners in the mess tonight will you. That’s all the thanks I need” as he patted me on the shoulder with a silly grin and walked off of the field. When the cloud of steam cleared from around my head I headed over the RO’s office thinking that being the new man I had better just get over it…

Interesting that in the last shot there is blood on my windscreen but according to mission summary I was fine!

YouTube Video:
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 12:24 AM

Yikes! That was hair-yyy! I'd have been furiously fumbling for the alt-q at his approach! Hope he got some cuss2 from the other guys too!
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 12:29 AM

Robert, that you didn't die was a stroke of good fortune, I would say. I'm confused, I thought the start date was tomorrow, can I start?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 12:51 AM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
Robert, that you didn't die was a stroke of good fortune, I would say. I'm confused, I thought the start date was tomorrow, can I start?


The start date is tomorrow but I won't be able to use my system tomorrow so I jumped the gun for the one day. I hope they don't shoot me!
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 01:11 AM

Haha, I think you will be fine, at least I won't shoot you. biggrin
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 01:17 AM

Also, it's Saturday somewhere! bottles
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 06:36 AM

Rick, I only just watched the video in post 1, and I spilled my tea.
Great humour wrapped into this video - must have taken you some time to make.
I guess only WOFF and it's special forum could make us do such things.
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 07:34 AM

Okay, I have created a pilot now, and made me a simple skin for my Flieger.
When I tried to make a screenshot, I had to re-find and remember the key
commands - after my long absence so much is gone. I wonder if my fellow
will even only survive the takeoff. But I'll try...



Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 07:37 AM

Hmmm - seems I cannot enlist in the survey on page 1.
Is the start date already passed?

If you do the enlistment there, Rick - see my pilot data above.
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 08:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Hmmm - seems I cannot enlist in the survey on page 1.
Is the start date already passed?

If you do the enlistment there, Rick - see my pilot data above.


Just letting you know that I was able to enlist just now Olham. Not sure if there was a glitch for you just before?
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 08:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Smosh
Originally Posted By: Olham
Hmmm - seems I cannot enlist in the survey on page 1.
Is the start date already passed?

If you do the enlistment there, Rick - see my pilot data above.


Just letting you know that I was able to enlist just now Olham. Not sure if there was a glitch for you just before?

Tried again, but it didn't work - I can only select a name from the list already in there,
but I cannot write.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 09:59 AM

Olham, it's good to see your Albatross back in the skies of WOFF. Don't worry about the survey, I am sure Rick will sort it out.

Robert, is that the 1st time that's happened to you? Like Rick, once I am on the ground, I ready the exit command and have my finger on "enter" as I watch the others come in.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 10:10 AM

MFair, I have now made a point of landing first and taxiing over to the sheds to get out of the way. I like to sit and watch the kette come in and land. I have never had this happen before. I thought In coming AI aircraft could avoid each other.
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 10:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
I like to sit and watch the kette come in and land. I have never had this happen before.
I thought In coming AI aircraft could avoid each other.

No, they cannot "see" you on the ground.
I guess they all have their own special landing path/line, 1, 2, 3 etc. to avoid collision with each other,
and you should keep out of those paths by either taxiing out of the way, or by coming in last.
But I understand you like watching them coming in - as I often do myself.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 11:56 AM

Tnx for the feedback Olham!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 01:03 PM

@ Robert:
LOL - Haven't seen this, before.
If you have gotten less than 20% (or so) Damage, you'll get a Patch, a Lollypop, and hop right into the Cockpit for the next Adventure. Holidays in Hospital are reserved for more serious Injuries ;-)
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 02:06 PM

Olham, I didn't want to pressure you to join if you weren't up for it, so I didn't add you on the survey yet, I'll fix it immediately, welcome aboard! salute
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 02:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Olham, I didn't want to pressure you to join if you weren't up for it, so I didn't add you on the survey yet, I'll fix it immediately, welcome aboard! salute

I'm not sure myself - I may fly the Albatros backwards; so much is gone, which I never had to even think about.
But I'll try. If I should only fly too little, I'd participate out of competition, if I may.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 02:14 PM

Ok, should be all set, you're on the survey!!!
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 02:17 PM

Thank you, Rick!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 02:52 PM

Olham;

Forget about the competition and just enjoy the adventure. No need to frustrate yourself trying to compete when you are trying to relearn everything. Just have fun and take care.

By the way, one thing you haven't forgotten, is how to make a lovely skin! thumbsup
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 03:00 PM

Thanks, Robert - it will hopefully all come back to me, once I try.
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 05:04 PM

Robert: When I used to watch my AI mates come in, I'd have my finger on the pause button in case I noticed one was about to careen into me.

Now I take is as a point of pride to sidle up to the nearest hangar (and if it's open actually drive inside of it)
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: CatKnight
Robert: When I used to watch my AI mates come in, I'd have my finger on the pause button in case I noticed one was about to careen into me.

Now I take is as a point of pride to sidle up to the nearest hangar (and if it's open actually drive inside of it)


Yes, CatKnight, That's pretty much my approach now except I stay outside of the hangar so I can watch my mates land.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 06:39 PM

Robert, it has happened to me once. It would have happened more but I watch for them now. I cannot remember what book but the author, a WWI pilot was about to touch down when he looked up and was staring at the undercarriage of his mate about 3' above his wings!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 07:26 PM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 1
1 May, 1917
Airfield Defense



A costly flight:
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 07:44 PM

Great first success, Rick - aerh, Steinhoff - congrats!
And enjoy the brandy!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 09:17 PM

whoohoo Herr Olham is back reading
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 09:29 PM

Dutch Imil
12 Jasta
Mission 1
1 may 1917.


The Jasta put up 6 a/c for Airfield Patrol. One D-II dropped out early with engine problems. The rest of us continued with Patrol. Spotted dots but to far to chase so finished the assignment.


image ru

Posted By: LowDrag

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 09:40 PM

Hello, alltogether!

Mr Rawlings, a new challenge, what a pleasure! Although somewhat tight in time for next two weeks, I would like to participate, if it´s not too late to join in... I never survived too long in the last challenges, so maybe this fits quite nicely.

Nice bunch of people here again, looking forward for the next weeks! Welcome back, Herr Olham!

Kaische

Edit: My pilot´s name is Paul Viktor Nemjetzkij. Good luck to all of you!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 09:43 PM

Rick

You just raised the bar for quality reporting!! thumbsup
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 09:51 PM

Nice vid Rick! Your dropping them like flies. I will take to the skies tomorrow. Good luck everyone.
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 09:53 PM

I really don't know why I spend the time typing in my pilot's info and making a skin for him; ON Sam Colerhedge's first mission, the flight encountered some Pups, and Sam got after one, but then lost him, and in fact lost everyone, but another squad of Pups found him, and 3 of them stuck on his tail, and then he got into some irrecoverable spin, and then he hit the ground. Nice playing with you all.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 10:21 PM

Thanks Robert! I don't think anyone has topped Lou from the first challenge, though! LowDrag, welcome aboard, be sure to fill out the survey in the first post as you progress!
loftyc, oh no! Run a second "for fun" pilot if you want and just report on him!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/05/15 11:49 PM

For information only :

I'm out of home for the weekend, will catch up on Monday.
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 12:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

loftyc, oh no! Run a second "for fun" pilot if you want and just report on him!


... and so I give you Sam's Evil Twin:
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 12:20 AM

Nice writing, Rick
Sorry to hear that loftyc
Olham, glad your flying
Robert, I had one squadmate roll up on me as i was sitting in front of a tent. He would have crashed into me had I not exited the mission.

In a different campaign I landed a plane and noticed what appeared to be a bomb crater ahead, rolled into it and heavily damaged my plane. Never knew they did that Maybe it was a wrecked plane? but it looked round and I saw no plane parts so i think it was a bomb crater.


Rudolf's first mission consisted of escorting DFWs on a recce run. He and another DII trailed the DIIIs until they met up with the DFWs and then had no issues until the second trip back into German territory when SPADs attacked from 10 o'clock low. Jasta 12 handled them well, Rudolf blew the wings off one and was thinking the DF was about over when bullets hit his plane...NUPES!

He dove as fast as he could and landed at a friendly airbase.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 12:33 AM

Nice! The black really brings out the evil, loftyc! Way to hang in there, MudWasp, stay frosty!

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 2
2 May, 1917
Airfield Defense




Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 01:09 AM

Journal Entry: May 1, 1917
Epinoy

Flew my first two missions today didn't soil myself or shoot down any comrades, so I would say I performed well. We did mix it up with some Nieuports during the morning sortie. I was too busy avoiding the swirling aeroplanes to focus too intently on the enemy. I think I might have hit a Tommie, but I couldn't be sure. Next thing I know the Nieuports are diving for home and the skies are clear. We turn for home and once we landed someone noticed that Offv Edgar Kock was missing. Turns out in the hectic melee he must have been hit because after lunch we received noticed that some infantry had located his body. I didn't know the man since I had only just met him yesterday, but he could play the piano very well and we will miss that. I wonder if he will be just the first of many to move on west.

Afternoon sortie was a dud, flew our assigned patrol and returned home without seeing any enemy aeroplanes.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 01:10 AM

Rick is there any point in continuing this challenge? Between you and Gaw1 we can't keep up. Are you sure you guys aren't using some kind of missile. biggrin
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 01:52 AM

Ha! I'm sure I'll burn out soon enough! Everyone make sure you time advance so you are only flying one mission per campaign day!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 02:34 AM

wave


LoftyC: UR pilot has an Evil look about him. (LOL)
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 02:49 AM

May 1, 1917 8:16
Otto von Trabant's first mission was balloon defense at FB 1127. Schwarm Zwei consisted of 6 planes, led by von Tutschek. Schwarm Eins 3-plane flight was directly assisting.




After take off 2 planes had to turn back due to mechanical failures, one from each schwarm. After reaching the balloons, 2 flights of N23's arrived and a fur-ball ensued. Otto picked a Nieuport that was double-teaming another Albatros and engaged in a prolonged turning fight but was unable to bring it down.




After a while, the N23 decided to dive for home and left Otto behind. Otto pursued but was outpaced and turned back to rejoin the rest of his flight. While nearly back over friendly lines he noticed another N23 returning to base at low altitude. Von Trabant snuck behind him and shot it down, then returned to the nearest friendly airfield at Riencourt, where the rest of his flight was already waiting.




- Otto von Trabant was credited with his first victory and received the Ehrenbecher.
- Billik got 1.
- Hochstetter's plane was destroyed by enemy.
One of the machines with mechanical problems at the start of the mission was Otto's wingman, Emil Thumm. He didn't make it.

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:05 AM

Nicely done! Looking for those stragglers is a devious but necessary plan for success!
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:24 AM

Rick, sorry for the extra sortie, I had forgotten that we were only flying one a day.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:41 AM

Not a problem, very useful in that you reminded me to remind people! The only reason it's there in the first place is so we can move forward more during the challenge! salute
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 06:10 AM

Rick - aerh, Steinhoff - enjoy the brandy and the cigarettes! yep
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 11:14 AM





Flieger J. Harms, Jasta 12, Epinoy - 1. Mai 1917

Airfield defense for Pronville
Takeoff: 08:16 h
Wind: 3 knots

Downed 1 British B.E.2c ca. 2 miles beyond the lines

Approaching Pronville, we saw heavy Flak fire ca. 3000 Meter above the airfield.
Kette 1, lead by Tutschek, was vertically closer to the enemy, but 1000 Meters lower.
Our flight was almost at the right height, but further away.
When I spotted a single B.E.2c, I realised I was the only one with a chance to catch up
with it, cause I was flying high cover for Kette 2, led by Jorke.
I checked the whole sky carefully, but there was only this one plane - probably a straggler -
and I decided to try and intercept the Tommy.
I followed the two-seater and finally reached it and attacked it from underneath.
From my second attack, the B.E.2c caught fire and spiraled down.
Unfortunately, the defensive fire had pierced my tank, and I had to perform a forced landing
near a German balloon base.

On my return, von Tutschek asked where I had been, and I told him about my feat.
But instead of any good words he gave me a harsh dressing down in front of both flights.

"Your position in this mission was to fly high cover for Kette 2!
You were not allowed to leave this position! You are a neophyte and not experienced enough
to even judge the situation. You THOUGHT there was only one bomber - but how could you know?
An enemy scout diving out of the glare of the sun would have killed you before you knew
what it was, that hit you! If you ever disobey clear orders again, I will get you sent
to the trenches! Is that clear?"
"Jawohl, Herr Leutnant!"
"Dismissed!"

Damn, my stomach was aching from his words - and he was so right.

Later he called me to his office.
"Did you really see that bomber crash?"
"No, Herr Leutnant - but I saw it was burning. A flamer - how could they have survived?"
He came out from behind his desk and looked me in the eyes.
"I know how it feels to get the first one - you feel bad and excited at the same time, right?"
"Jawohl, Herr Leutnant!"
"Well, privately, I congratulate you - although you may never get it confirmed as a victory.
But it must clear: you will have to remember ever word I said before, and only do what you
are told, in future. Is that understood?"
"Jawohl, Herr Leutnant!"
"Gut! Wegtreten!"

[I have made a FRAPS video but I'm not sure if I can make it into a movie today.]


Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 11:41 AM

Olham it seems all your skills for flying are coming back! First flight, first encounter, first victory.

Keep patient and stay alive.

Best Regards
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 11:46 AM

Rudolf's second mission was escorting DFWs on a bombing run. They spotted some enemy two seaters below when returning to German airspace, but didn't engage them. Seemed like a quiet mission as he approached his home field as his flight went into a landing pattern, then he heard NUPE Engines! All hell broke loose as the NUPES attacked his landing squadmates and he attacked the NUPES downing four of them. His squadmates seemed intent on maintaining their landing pattern and seldom engaged the NUPES attacking. They didn't even notice the four that Rudolf destroyed and dropped near their airfield as none of Rudolf's claims were confirmed.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 12:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
Rick is there any point in continuing this challenge? Between you and Gaw1 we can't keep up. Are you sure you guys aren't using some kind of missile. biggrin


Don't be so quick to lose heart Banjoman, things can change fast. My goal is to survive at least one of these Challenges. Something I have yet to do!
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 12:24 PM

Thank you, Robert. I'm very curious, if it will be confirmed.
I guess there's little chance without witness and 2 miles into enemy terrain.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 12:38 PM



2 May 1917 @ 05h00 Defense of Le Cateau aerodrome

We formed up east of our field at 2400 m. with wind of 3 kn from the WSW. We had clear skies for a change. Kallweil led the kette with Schock, Laemmermann, Aldenhoff, myself and Drescher accompanying. We headed SE directly for Le Cateau, climbing to 3048 m. Arriving over Le Cateau, we entered a wide circuit passing over Wassigny aerodrome and then back to Le Cateau several times. I thought I had spotted 5 aircraft directly below us and signaled to Kallweil but he ignored them and we returned to base.
When we arrived there the RO indicated he had received a call from Le Cateau that 5 Tripes were prowling the area and noticed our formation well above. Kallweil indicated he had not seen them. I on the other hand, being the new guy, decided to bite my tongue.

YouTube Video:
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 12:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Thank you, Robert. I'm very curious, if it will be confirmed.
I guess there's little chance without witness and 2 miles into enemy terrain.


Olham, I am of the opinion that it is a dice roll. Even with witnesses they are sometimes rejected. I have seen times when my "Offsata.dat" file reflects that I got the kill, but in the end the powers that be deny it. I guess it's a case of the "Fog of War".
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 12:47 PM

Again....my apologies to all for diving in. I'm off the flight line for 2 weeks and had to cram in as much as I could whilst home....love these challenges!!! I fully expect to be crushed by the rest of you happily flapping away while I'm grounded by RL. Give 'em hell..... Thank Rick for kicking these off again.
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 01:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Olham, I am of the opinion that it is a dice roll. Even with witnesses they are sometimes rejected.

Not so sure there. It may even depend on the distance between you and your witness,
and maybe even, if the "witness" was flying in the other direction - and could not see it?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 01:07 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Olham, I am of the opinion that it is a dice roll. Even with witnesses they are sometimes rejected.

Not so sure there. It may even depend on the distance between you and your witness,
and maybe even, if the "witness" was flying in the other direction - and could not see it?


You may be correct Olham, but we really don't know what logic is in the sim so it leaves the situation up to our imaginations and that is one of the great features of the human mind. Whether the sim is very sophisticated and analytical about these things or simply uses chance logic, the end result is the same in that we do not know for sure and so surmise what has happened. It's all good in the end because what ever we surmise could actually be correct or a realistic possibililty.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 01:38 PM

Olham, nice work, and timely advice from the C.O.! And a sharp looking DII as well. salute

MudWasp, I know your pain! I usually drop the claims difficulty down to the middle when I am not running challenges, it's a little more satisfying... It's possible that the airfield defenders popped a round or two into the Nupes before they were technically dead, this could be confounding your efforts... salute
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 01:41 PM

Here comes my video for above first mission - I just made it back.

Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 02:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Olham, I am of the opinion that it is a dice roll. Even with witnesses they are sometimes rejected.

Not so sure there. It may even depend on the distance between you and your witness,
and maybe even, if the "witness" was flying in the other direction - and could not see it?


You may be correct Olham, but we really don't know what logic is in the sim so it leaves the situation up to our imaginations and that is one of the great features of the human mind. Whether the sim is very sophisticated and analytical about these things or simply uses chance logic, the end result is the same in that we do not know for sure and so surmise what has happened. It's all good in the end because what ever we surmise could actually be correct or a realistic possibililty.


I'm getting the feeling that the witness has very little impact on the confirmation of the claim. One of my pilots has most of his kills confirmed without a witness and most of the claims where a witness was included were rejected (normal setting). It's almost as if the probability of confirmation was reversed. Maybe the devs can take another look at the criteria and see if any values are off? I wonder what will happen if you consistently use a pilot that wasn't in your flight as a witness. Will any claim be then confirmed? If so, then you know for sure that there is something odd with the claim system.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 02:27 PM

Olham, Thanks for posting the vid. What is the name of the sound track? I haven't heard it before.
I didn't hear your pilot get hit. I guess the sound track replaced the gun fire.
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Olham, Thanks for posting the vid.
What is the name of the sound track? I haven't heard it before.

That's the piece "Lights" from ARCHIVE.

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
I didn't hear your pilot get hit.
I guess the sound track replaced the gun fire.

I recorded it with FRAPS, and for some strange reason there was no sound.
Never had that before.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 03:23 PM

Manfred Fuchs had a nice first mission when a group of Strutters came down on them. He followed one down and sent it to its grave in flames!



It was confirmed and they gave me this pretty cup to drink from!


The second mission he had a systems failure and landed at a friendly field. On his third mission we tangled with some Nieuports and he sent one down trailing vapor and saw it crash but everyone else must have been too busy to notice.

Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 03:33 PM

Hussah! Congrats, Mark!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 03:36 PM

Yeah Mark, Manfred is due some congrats from me as well!
Posted By: Hasse

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:21 PM

I've also become convinced that the whole claims process is more or less a random roll of the dice. Sometimes the most obvious cases with excellent witnesses and everything get rejected, while totally incomplete claims (ie. no witnesses, not much of a description) are then confirmed. That's just the way it is. Fortunately there are options to somewhat adjust the claims process or to turn it off completely, unlike in other flight sims.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:34 PM

Olham and Robert, thanks Gents. Always love your musical scores Olham. Glad you made it back. Robert, I have been known to bang my fist and shout when my flight has all the advantage and the flight leader flies on his merry way!

Back home after a short holiday. The wife stayed on the coast so it's a WOFF kind of day!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:39 PM

Dutch Imil, Flyer
Jasta 12
Flanders


2 May 1917.
Mission 2


Wild, short fire fight this morning with 4 Spad 7 machines. Hq called the forward Observers reported aero- machines over no mans land. 2 Kettes took off a total of 10 machines. We had just leveled out after making the 1st turn near the search area when they hit. I was tail end when the 4 Spads made a Head on diving attack. I stayed high turning on my wing tips getting shots off. One got on my tail, but I shook him off then it was over. The Jasta suffered 1 damage a/c+ 1 pilot wnd. We must have damaged some of them ? Ammo Rpt 134 rds fired.


upload pictures online
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:40 PM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Robert, I have been known to bang my fist and shout when my flight
has all the advantage and the flight leader flies on his merry way!

Yes, I could also feel your pain, Robert. But you behaved disciplined!
I might have dived on them on my own - and would have received another dressing down.
Or got shot down...

Originally Posted By: MFair
Back home after a short holiday. The wife stayed on the coast so it's a WOFF kind of day!

Make good use of it, Mark!
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: carrick58
Dutch Imil, Flyer

Where do you guys dig up these names???
What about using this list of German First Names - Male ?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 04:55 PM

popcorn

Olham: Glad U R back ! My pilots' name came from an old Korean War film about F-86 Jet Fighter Pilots. Col. Dutch Imil was the Group Commander. He wore a pair of 45 cal pistols and drank Booze straight from the Bottle. The book is alot different from the film and better than the film. However, The eye candy of the F-86 flashing about chasing aircraft is a sight to behold. pilot
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 05:54 PM

May 2, 1917 05:03
Wind 3 knots (again) WSW
Airfield defense - Eswars.
Schwarm Zwei - 5 members led by Karl Schock. Schwarm Eins - 3 members - direct assist.

The airfield to be protected was located a stone's throw away from our own and we completed the mission without incident. Schwarm Eins returned home first and was jumped by a flight of N23's. 2 machines were destroyed, including von Tutschek's before we were able to get there and help. Otto was able to get on the tail of one of the Nieups, but just like last mission the N23 was able to extend and leave Otto behind.



Otto turned back and noticed another N23 which just shot down an Albatros. Not willing to allow another Nieuport to get away, Otto aimed and shot at it from a distance, probably landing a hit or two as the machine was not able to run away. Most likely he was already damaged. Otto was able to get on his tail and bring it down.



The enemy landed and stopped on a fence.



Final tally:
Otto von Trabant - 1 machine brought down - received Iron Cross 2nd Class
Karl Schock - 1 enemy downed
von Tutschek's machine destroyed
Karl Schock's machine destroyed
Viktor Zietlow from Schwarm Eins - dead

Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 06:06 PM

Congratulations Fullofit!

I will be away from the Hanger most of next week and plan to get in my 7 flights for the week in the next two days, if I live long enough!









Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 06:08 PM

Congrats on that victory and the Iron Cross, Mark!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 06:15 PM

Originally Posted By: carrick58
popcorn

Olham: Glad U R back ! My pilots' name came from an old Korean War film about F-86 Jet Fighter Pilots. Col. Dutch Imil was the Group Commander. He wore a pair of 45 cal pistols and drank Booze straight from the Bottle. The book is alot different from the film and better than the film. However, The eye candy of the F-86 flashing about chasing aircraft is a sight to behold. pilot


Yeah, "The Hunters" thumbsup I remember that one. Haven't seen that movie since the mid '90s
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 06:17 PM

Save some for the rest of us MFair.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 06:17 PM

Mark, +1 on the cross!

Fullofit, you also are doing well!
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 06:22 PM

May 1 1917

Night mission, recce job. Hard enough keeping up with faster machines in daylight, let alone when you can't see them! Flieger Pallitz did his best to keep up, but eventually he was left behind, flying in pitch dark. To make things worse, his cockpit light had malfunctioned (...not assigned! Argh! Must check my settings). He thought to himself "what the hell do I do now!". Realizing the danger of landing in total darkness, Pallitz decided to fly low and see if he could make out an airfield to land at. Incredibly, he somehow managed to spot the ghostly shapes of hangars, and was able to navigate alongside, heading downwind. Barely able to make anything out, he gingerly turned into the wind and gradually throttled back, searching desperately for the field. finally, he saw the hangars again, to his right, and he gingerly descended. It was a very bumpy landing, but he had made it, incredibly, in one piece!!




May 2 1917

0800 hours, reconnaissance mission, escorting 3 DFWs from Ss-11. Flieger Pallitz had never seen so many aircraft in one place, as they arrived at the front and were met by five enemy scouts - Nieuports, he thought, as he tried to work out what he should do next. After some minutes, he spotted an opportunity to jump on the tail of one of the Nupes, and managed to put a couple of bursts into him, but he soon found himself outmaneuvered, and bullets were soon ripping through his own craft. Twisting and turning, too low to try anything daring, he was eventually able to escape and head for home.

Shaken but still alive, Pallitz later learned that his Schwarm had taken down two enemy scouts, Jorke accounting for one, and Bohnstedt the other. Sadly, Klonetzki was shot down and killed, and also Konz from Scwarm Eins.

Pallitz’s DII suffered light damage, and would need 2 days to repair.

Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 06:55 PM

Thanks MFair and Robert. Good luck with cramming all those missions in the next 2 days. That's a tall order.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 07:19 PM

Nice work, MFair, that paint job should strike fear into them! Great video, Olham, looked like a textbook landing in NML. I bet it was quite a scramble back to your own lines, though! Fullofit, good job getting the Nupe, it is frustrating having nearly everything be faster than you!

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 3
3 May, 1917
Patrol Enemy Lines






Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 07:29 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Great video, Olham, looked like a textbook landing in NML.
I bet it was quite a scramble back to your own lines, though!

You bet it was! Thank you.
Congrats on your Sopwith Strutter, Rick - and that you could escape those nosy SPADs!

Great video - the Strutter knew how to evade!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 08:58 PM

Rick I liked the report and the vid! both top notch, although I must say you had me biting my nails as you came in to land. It looked almost as though you were going to clip the trees on your last bank. Once you cleared them I was able to breath again! jawdrop

Very steady flying throughout! Good show.
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 09:38 PM

Sam's Evil Twin has developed some interesting tactics with his D2: if an EA gets near, head try to land as quickly as possible, anywhere, before he gets too shot up. He's had 2 missions, both airfield defense, the first against Pups, and the 2nd had 2 nieuport types. Both times he got hit, had no shot on any EA himself, and this last time was put in hospital for 10 days. But, he was told that there's a D3 with his name on it when he gets back, so no excuses then!!
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 09:49 PM

Journal Entry: May 2, 1917
Epinoy

We are wolves, that's what we are, wolves of the sky. What drew me to this realization occurred during our morning patrol. Schwarm Zwei was ordered to fly a routine defensive patrol on a line just west of Lens. As we were approaching our patrol sector, Leutnant Tutschek spotted a lone F.E. 2b flying over our side of the lines. I could almost hear the howls as we all dove after that lone Tommy. Somehow, I flew into a cloud and became separated from the pack and when I flew out of the cloud, sitting right there in front of me was the Fee. I slung in behind gave him a good burst and here are the results of my shooting.



The others arrived soon after and sniffed around for a few moments and then we returned to our patrol. It wasn't fifteen minutes later before Leutnant Tutschek was signalling again and this time if was four more Fees. Once again the howls and yips went up as we all dove like ravenous beasts to engage the enemy. I singled one out and it wasn't long before he was plunging earthward.



In the confusion I was able to get another Fee while the big dogs weren't watching.



We destroyed the entire flight and afterward we sniffed around looking for more prey and then headed home.
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 09:56 PM

A "3-fer"!
Nice BJM. I have only done that a couple of times and never had them all confirmed anyway.
Maybe you are luckier then I if you get them all.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 10:04 PM

Journal Entry: May 3, 1917
Epinoy

Today, I was dressed down for insubordination. It all started when we were ordered to escort a photo recon flight. I was assigned the sixth spot because of my lowly status. As we were approaching the area that needed photographing, a flight of four Fees flew under us about 1000 feet below. I was anticipating the signal to attack, but it never came, so we flew on. It wasn't too much longer that I saw a flight of two Fees approaching us. It was more than I could stand and I dove to attack. I quickly got into position on the first and he quickly plunged to Earth.



I turned toward the other Fee, but he wasn't going to go down without a good fight. I hit him a number of times, but couldn't get a killing burst. I broke off when the Tommy had put a few rounds into my machine. It wasn't long before I returned to my place and continued my escorting duty. All the while, I'd thought that I gotten away with leaving the formation, but I learned how wrong I was when we landed. Leutnant Tutschek was waiting with some choice words, something along the lines of "This isn't my private little war!" Lesson learned, Leutnant Tutschek.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 10:05 PM

I agree with Hasse that it's a crap shoot on claim confirmation. In my 1915 DID campaign, I had an Aviatik blow up in the midst of a three plane flight and the claim was rejected.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 10:50 PM

Banjoman, you are cleaning up!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 11:17 PM

Banjoman, I thought you figured the Challenge was already decided! Not the way your flying! Keep it up and be careful.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/06/15 11:42 PM

Haha, in the last challenge I was blown up by a balloon. I figure I need to get while the getting is good.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 12:19 AM

wave

Good stories. Keep flying and Happy Landings.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 01:38 AM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 4
4 May, 1917
Friendly Territory Patrol






Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 01:46 AM



3 May 1917 @ 05h01 Balloon defense west of Pronville

We took off in 3 kn winds from the WNW with clear skies and only a few clouds.

Hochstetter lead the kette with Nillik, Henkershafen, Aldenhoff, myself, and Drescher accompanying. Having formed up east of the field attaining an altitude of 2100 m, we set a course for the balloon and climbed to 2800 m. As we approached the balloon I spotted two groups of 4 enemy scouts well above us on my right side. Hochstetter also noticed them and began a climbing chase to engage. The aircraft proved to be two seat Strutters and they made a retreat to their side of the lines. Hochstetter continued the chase deep into enemy territory and by the time we caught up the strutters we were almost over Lechelle aerodrome where 4 Nieuport 23’s were forming up to land. Hochstetter diverted his attack onto the Nieuport 23’s and we engaged them. I picked out one and swung onto his tail but kept an eye on the Strutters above in case they became a problem. I sent the Nieuport 23 down smoking but did not remain to watch it crash. Instead I tried to rejoin my kette mates who were actively engaged. The Strutters were making their way down to our level and I made a pass on one from a 45 degree angle on his side, swinging in behind him and that is when his rear gunner let me know he was not happy to have me visit. My engine took some hits and immediately began to lose speed. I pulled away and headed directly for our lines, with the hope that I had enough altitude to make it there. I shut the engine off and occasionally restarted it to maintain some altitude. I followed the road from Bapaume to Cambrai and as I approached the lines at low altitude I began to take direct fire from the infantry. I made it across the lines at 150 m. and set down on the road safely. I was picked up by reserve infantry coming up to the lines from Marcoing.

I was somewhat miffed that we allowed ourselves to be sucked 20 kilometres into enemy territory when we had successfully driven off the enemy craft from our balloon. I felt that we should have stayed the course over our balloon in case other enemy craft were in the vicinity.

When I got back to base I put in a claim for one N23 but it was denied due to lack of confirmation. I was happy to just have survived the event. Hochstetter claimed one and Menkershafen 2. Their claims were granted.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 02:13 AM

Nicely done, Robert! I feel like I got the better deal, though, I'd rather go up against a whole flight of tripes than one strutter tail gunner! rofl
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 02:43 AM

Rick, Sopwith Triplane is my favorite plane in WOFF. Now, if you were to have a challenge flying that plane I might have a chance. biggrin
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 03:55 AM

Mission 1
1 May 1917
Patrol our line

Nice day for flying with a bit of cloud around.

We patrol our lines but see no enemy air activity. The only heart stopping moment comes when I nearly dig a wing in on landing.

Everyone lands safely.



Forgot a picture of my Black Rose






Posted By: lederhosen

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 07:54 AM

Life is not fair....I think the Officers have something against NCO's.



Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 08:53 AM

You're on a run with those Fees Banjoman thumbsup
I haven't seen any of them yet, just SPADS and NUPES
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:00 AM

lederhosen, I see you're having a bad luck streak too with claims.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 11:24 AM

Lederhosen and Smosh, very elegant skins. And you are correct. Life is not fair.
Robert and Rick, nice vids Gents. You were very lucky Robert!

Manfred Fuchs and his band of Merry Men went on another intercept mission and found some FE's. Even though he sent one down in flames, no one saw it!





On another patrol, we were passing Pronville and I could see one hell of a fight going on over the field. Our fearless leader was preoccupied with something else as he was content to fly on by. One was passing under me and I could not stand it! I left the flight and dove on him. He crashed about a half mile from the field. Certainly someone saw this one!


Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 01:47 PM

Damm...Nice tripe kill.
Were the Tripes shooting down landing planes? I ran into that but with NUPES on my flight shortly after their AI minds went into focus on landing.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 01:53 PM

lederhosen and Smosh, great paint schemes! MFair, glad someone is knocking those tripes out of the sky!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 03:17 PM

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Wow! I see I’ve lots of reading to catch up with here when I get back home this evening. I’ll be out and about for the day but I wanted to post Georg Pfeiffer’s current status.

First sortie was a line patrol that was uneventful, nothing in the sky except the Kaiser’s planes, the birds, and the clouds. Third mission early this morning was precisely the same. However, yesterday’s sortie was another story entirely. Kette Zwei was tasked with watching the lines from Monchy-le-Preux to Lens. All was going well as the two Alb IIIs and two Alb IIs worked their way along No Man’s Land towards the north. They had climbed to 9,000’ and were just over Oppy when five enemy planes dove down upon them from a much greater height, and Sopwith Triplanes at that. Flieger Pfeiffer thought his number was up on but his second sortie ever as two of the Tripes set directly upon him. He twisted and turn and threw his mount all over the sky as he tried to shake them, taking hits in his wings and tail feathers on several occasions. One of the enemy ships suddenly broke off from the fight and headed west but the other pressed on with his attacks. Suddenly, as Georg brought his Alb up and over for the umpteenth time the Tripe flashed across his sights and he let go a volley with both guns, a volley that found its mark on the Tripe’s engine. The enemy plane started trailing black smoke and immediately turned away and headed west after his partner. As young Pfeiffer’s mount was running badly due to hits his engine had taken as well he decided discretion was most certainly the better part of valour at this point and did not give chase. He turned towards home but kept an eye on the Tripe which was giving up altitude at a fairly steep rate. With any luck his attacker wouldn’t make it back across the lines. No sooner had Georg considered this when his engine conked entirely and he had to start looking for somewhere to set down. The road from Vitry-en-Artois was directly beneath him and he surmised that would make an ideal emergency landing spot and lined up on it. He gave the Tripe a final look as he neared the ground and could see that his attacker was landing as well, right in the middle of No Man’s Land. Georg landed his dead mount without any trouble what-so-ever and within the hour was back at camp filling out a claim for the Tripe. It was approved the next day.



On patrol, just before the Sopwiths arrive.



Bringing the nose up to face the incoming threats.



What you do not want to see when you look behind.



One of the seemingly endless close passes during the dance.



After finally getting hits on the Tripe it breaks away, engine smoking.



A vanquished foe loosing altitude as he heads west.



On the ground, safe and relatively sound. Georg lives to fight another day.


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Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 04:12 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Damm...Nice tripe kill.
Were the Tripes shooting down landing planes? I ran into that but with NUPES on my flight shortly after their AI minds went into focus on landing.


Don't know how it started but they were all swirling about above the field when I noticed so they were fighting. I could not tell who was who at a distance but one broke away and came right under us. That's the bloke I went after.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 04:15 PM

Dutch Imil, Flyer
Jasta 12
Flanders



3 May 1917.

Mission 3.


The Kette was tagged to fly Escort today. Photos of the line, I think ? Met up with DFW,s at 5000 meters and flew up and down the lines. My fuel was down to 23 % on the last run so broke off and re-fueled at a friendly base then home. Kinda a let down with 9 a/c up you would expect the enemy to be up in force.


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Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 04:59 PM

Journal Entry: May 4, 1917
Epinoy

I must be the luckiest pilot in the Kaiser's Luftstreitkräfte. This morning's sortie we were ordered to fly a defensive patrol over a local factory. As we were approaching our designated patrol sector, I notice a flight of four Nieuports harassing some DFWs that had just landed. Remembering my dressing down, I quickly dismissed them and turned my attention back to the Schwarm. All at once, my plane pitched forward into a vertical spinning dive. The world started turning red as I frantically tried everything I could think of to pull out of this dive. I had given up hope and that's was when my machine began to level off, miraculously my wings were still attached to my machine. I quickly came to my senses and noticed that I had pulled out and was flying right behind one of the Nieuports, well not to let a good opportunity pass, I fired and scored my fifth victory.



I quickly landed and with quivering legs, I kissed the ground and followed that with a rather large cup of Schnapps.

------------------------------------------------

That was all true, I've never had anything like this happen in WOFF before. My plane just pitched forward and I really didn't think I would survive. It was just fool's luck that I survived and pulled out right behind the Nieuport. Has anyone else ever had anything remotely like this happen?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 05:23 PM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 5
5 May, 1917
Balloon Busting



Loaner:





This is a longer video, but it is actually pretty action packed. I really only trimmed a bit of the B1 Strutter chase...




Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 08:59 PM

Wow, Rick, plenty of excitement for Flieger Lowenbrau!!

Quite the opposite for Pallitz, who spent 71 minutes touring the front, this morning, with not a single EA to be seen. Not even any specs in the distance!

However, a couple of the ground staff have mentioned that he might want to repaint his Albatros, as the colors he has chosen could well be mistaken for RFC colors! They may have a point.

H
Posted By: lederhosen

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:05 PM

Dead on my 3rd flight. Own fault, a beer too many.
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:05 PM

BTW, Rick... you look scarily like Randy Johnson, "The Big Unit", with that moustache!! It had been bugging me, until it came to me, reading your last report!

H
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:35 PM

Rick, congrats on making Ace and enjoy well deserved leave.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:46 PM

Originally Posted By: HarryH
BTW, Rick... you look scarily like Randy Johnson, "The Big Unit", with that moustache!! It had been bugging me, until it came to me, reading your last report!

H


I thought it was Colonel George Pickett!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:51 PM

Oh no, lederhosen, what happened?

Randy Johnson, huh, HarryH? Well, I am a southpaw! (mostly)
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:52 PM

Manfred has flown his 7 missions for the week and I am happy to say he is still alive! Our last mission was an intercept way the heck up northeast and did not see a single thing. My Triplane of yesterday was confirmed and it seems he was an ace of some renown. Bad news is, he stripped down to his birthday suit and took off, leaping the German trenches in a single bound. The gunners were so surprised they did not fire a shot. So look out fellow flyers. He is still in the fight. I am off to fly my own Triplane for a few days. It is orange and has "Kubota" painted on the side.




Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:57 PM

Originally Posted By: lederhosen
Dead on my 3rd flight. Own fault, a beer too many.


Sorry to hear that lederhosen. I am sure Roberts cloud is available for this challenge.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 09:57 PM

Congrats on surviving the first batch of missions, MFair! I am envious of your claim success rate! What is your secret?
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 10:13 PM

Well, after the Nieuport was rejected, I went to whatever setting lets you know you shot one down. That's when I sent the FE down in flames with the whole squadron below and behind. At debrief it was not even acknowledged and I could not file a claim so went back to normal. The written claim in my post is pretty much standard for me. No secrets, I have some bummers also and they seem to come in spurts.

Congratulations on becoming an Ace!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 10:18 PM

Thanks, I think for future challenges, I will recommend we go with that middle setting, to save our sanity! clapping
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/07/15 11:40 PM

May 3, 1917 08:05
Wind 3 knots (yet again) WSW
Patrol friendly front lines at FF377
Schwarm Zwei: 6 planes led by von Tutschek
Schwarm Eins: 4 planes - direct assist
Otto suffered mechanical failure during the climb to altitude and had to turn back. He landed at a nearby airfield still under power. Rest of the mission continued without enemy encounter or further incidents until the end of the mission when one of the machines from Schwarm Eins caught fire and crashed near the airfield. Rest of the flight landed with the grim sight nearby.



1 machine damaged - 1 day to repair and 1 machine destroyed.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 12:23 AM

Horst has made the move to the Alb. DII early and with the move comes a new paint job. I figured that since I'm the Grim Reaper I should have a black plane.

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 12:27 AM

Sweet! I likey!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 01:37 AM

Banjoman, congrats on the upgrade. With a paint job like that you could easily fly night missions for Keiser's spies.
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 05:45 AM

Mission 2
2 May 1917
Escort

We're escorting DFW's over the line today. This will be my first excursion over enemy territory.

As we take off I notice our anti aircraft fire going off in the distance. No one pays any attention as that isn't our mission today.

I'm flying a DII while the rest of the flight have the newer DIII and so I'm slightly slower. I hope I don't stray too far back and become easy prey.

We cross the lines at 06:29hrs and recross after completing the mission at 06:41hrs.

We see nothing untoward and I land at 07:00hrs.

Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 05:58 AM

Mission 3
3 May 1917
Defend Observation Balloon

An early morning start today.

We climb high into the early morning air. I love flying at this time. It's so serene.



Eventually I see a number of dots a long way in the distance but no one else makes a move. Friendly aircraft? I make a mental note to try and keep an eye on them.

After another 15 minutes flying I again see numerous dots heading towards us. Are these the same machines I saw before. Next thing the AA starts exploding and the rest of the flight start to manoeuvre for position. These must be the enemy.



The dots suddenly take shape in the form of Sopwith Pups and in the blink of an eye the formations meet and explode into a maelstrom of planes diving, circling and firing.

Before I know what's happening I'm hit. Not badly but it's time to get out of the fray. I spin down but there's an enemy sitting on my tail.



Is this the end?

Luckily I'm almost above a friendly aerodrome and keep spinning down. The enemy pilot must think I'm done for as he pulls out of his dive and heads for home. I'm having trouble controlling my aircraft and land partly sideways. the plane skids and a wing hits the ground but eventually it steadies itself. I see the fight still going on until everyone calls it a day. Our Jasta claims 4 for 2 pilots wounded (me included).

I am taken to a field hospital where they tell me I'll be their guest for 11 days. I don't mind. I'm alive.




Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 12:38 PM

Yikes! Those Pups are dastardly! The good news is that you'll probably have the DIII when you get back. thumbsup
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 12:57 PM

My Friend (the Whistleblower of the German Geheimdienst) managed to smuggle out another Document...
Looks like a Part of the secret "Willy/Hagen Correspondence"

I knew it!!! The Government is hiding something from us!!!
Take a look:




Here is a Summary of the first 2 Missions:

...will follow in a few Minutes (currently uploading)
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 12:59 PM

Smosh, That was a nasty affair! The DII is pretty much outclassed. Stay high above the action, dive strike and climb out as much as you can and your survival will be much improved. I really like the stenciled black rose!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 01:03 PM

Nietzsche;

Your reports transport me from WWI to an earlier time when I read them. I feel like I am reading the Viking Sagas.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 01:03 PM



4 May 1917 @ 10h13 Patrol to La Petrie

Today we had light scattered cumulus from 1200 to 3500 m with wind of 3 km from the NW.

Schock lead the kette with Jorke, Billik and myself accompanying. Kette eins which was to follow was lead by Tutschek and composed of Hochstetter, Sirreberg, Henkershafen and Aldenhoff. Our whole flight was uneventful with no enemy presence. Eins who left us half way through the flight, on the other hand encountered enemy craft and Hochstetter was lightly wounded with his craft destroyed on a forced landing. Sirreberg was killed and crashed.

YouTube Video:
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 01:42 PM

Scary looking DIII thumbsup
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 02:05 PM

Mission 3 was uneventful with Rudolf flying tail end in a patrol of front lines.

Mission 4 was exciting!



Rudolf lead the flight and ran into Pups near St. Martin. One claim was confirmed!





Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 02:19 PM

That looked quite close, Rudolf eek2

Here is the Documentary of Hagen von Tronje's Mission 1 & 2:

Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 02:29 PM

Mission five was uneventful. Rudolf flew tail end on an escort of DFWs bombing an enemy airfield just over the front lines.

Mission six involved NUPES!



He followed close on the tail of kette eins which didn't engage a flight of Nupes near the balloon to be defended. Rudolf couldn't let them pass by and dove down to challenge them. Huge flock of NUPES to fight. He thought he knocked four out of the sky while defending the balloon.




A couple of his claims were confirmed!
He was awarded an Iron Cross 2nd class to go with his goblet!
He made 5 victories and advanced time.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 02:52 PM

Nietzsche;

Nice vid. It's 21 minutes long. How did u achieve that? I thought YouTube only allows 15 minute episodes. Did you join them after uploading somehow?

The second part had a bit of stutter when you were watching the tripe go down. The rest of the vid is perfect. Any idea why that happened?

Thanks for posting.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 02:55 PM

MudWasp, your pilot is doing quite well. ten claims is impressive.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 02:55 PM

I'm low on daytime broadband for video watching sigh
I'll watch early tomorrow morning in the off hours yep
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 03:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
MudWasp, your pilot is doing quite well. ten claims is impressive.


It's been hit or miss for action with enemy plane encounters and having claims confirmed.

MFair, have fun on the Kubota. It's a hot spell here, don't overheat yourself or your machine.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 03:09 PM

@Robert:
Youtube already complained about the very first Video, I wanted to publish, because it was longer than 5 Minutes or so, and demanded my Email-Address for that... maybe it is because of that? There doesn't seem to be a Time Limit...

The Stutters come from my Video-Recorder "Afterburner". The Game itself runs totally smooth, but as soon as the Framerate drops below 35, these Afterburner-Records stutter.
Maybe, I should by this Fraps. Most of you Guys here seem to be quite satisfied with it. I cannot use this NVidia Gameshadow-Thing, because I've got an Island-System @Home, and these Data-Miners have no Reason to give something for free...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 04:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
@Robert:
Youtube already complained about the very first Video, I wanted to publish, because it was longer than 5 Minutes or so, and demanded my Email-Address for that... maybe it is because of that? There doesn't seem to be a Time Limit...

The Stutters come from my Video-Recorder "Afterburner". The Game itself runs totally smooth, but as soon as the Framerate drops below 35, these Afterburner-Records stutter.
Maybe, I should by this Fraps. Most of you Guys here seem to be quite satisfied with it. I cannot use this NVidia Gameshadow-Thing, because I've got an Island-System @Home, and these Data-Miners have no Reason to give something for free...


Thanks for the explanation Nietzsche.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 06:43 PM

Dutch Imil Flyer
Jasta 12
Flanders.


4 May 1917.

Mission 4.


Took a slug so out of it till the 10th. Routine line patrol 2 kettes of 4 a/c each. Fell on 3-4 strutters amid heavy clouds. Fire on the dive and missed. Then picked up 2 on my tail weave and scissored in and out of cloud Took a hit Wnd from a tail gunner as I went Vertical. Spotted a Strutter flashing by overhead and pumped out 100 rds. The enemy machine just flew into them shuttered the fell in a snap spin out of control. ( Pilot Kill ?) I flipped over and dove for home in the other direction. Ammo Rpt: 141 rds fired. I had 6 hits in my kite.

Jasta Rpt. 2 Albatros Lt Damage 1 pilot wnd (me). Enemy 3 1 1/2 ers shot down. The type with rear guns.


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 06:50 PM

wave

Question ? As our pilots get Wnd do we wait till evry one gets caught up to our Go fly date ( out of the hospital ) or just fly on from the new out of hospital date? For example: Smosh and I are down for wnds What do we do ? just wait? tanksalot
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 08:12 PM

To quote Inigo Montoya: "I hate waiting!" Don't fly more that 7 per week, other than that, Go! Go! Go!
Posted By: corsaire31

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 10:15 PM

Hi Rick and all !

Unfortunately, due to unexpected RL commitments which will reduce my flying time in the coming weeks ( not talking about the upcoming Rugby World Cup ... ) I will have to call it off for this one.

I will nevertheless enjoy as usual reading your high deeds with my morning coffee. Viel Spass am Engländer Jagd !
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 10:56 PM

Corsair

Sorry to see you withdraw, your contributions were appreciated, but I understand.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/08/15 11:45 PM

Robert and Nietzsche, great to see some more videos pop up! Nietzsche- glad to see I am not the only person wondering where the hell all my bullets were going. Those. Planes. Did. Not. Want. To. Go. Down! Also, checking your six while continuing to pummel you foe in front of you with machine gun fire? Priceless!!

Corsaire, good luck with real life, pop in when you can!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 12:06 AM

May 4, 1917 05:01
Balloon busting at FB821
Schwarm Zwei - 6 planes led by von Tutschek
Schwarm Eins - 4 planes assigned to top cover
One of the planes returned home before reaching cruising altitude. Someone got the balloon before Otto was able to get close enough with his old and slow DII. As it turned out later it was Reinhold Jorke by ploughing his mount straight into the balloon and destroying the plane in the process. Rest of the flight returned home unopposed.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 01:28 AM



* 5 May 1917 @ 05h00 Patrol our lines between Riencourt and Marcoing

Schock lead our kette of 4, with Jorke, Hochstetter and myself. Kette eins was to provide protecting cover with Kallweil leading and Stroh, Laemmermann, Henkershafe and Aldenhoff accompanying him. Our flight to the lines was quiet until Schock banked left to head for Reincourt on the first leg. I then spotted two specs coming in our direction. I did not follow Schock and continued on to investigate the two specs which soon disappeared in the clouds. I then banked left and seeing kette eins approaching decided to swing in behind them and follow. I glanced back towards my kette zwei and noticed what I suspected were those two specs closely following my kette. I swung hard to give chase and soon caught up with them over Reincourt. At this point Schock and company were engaging them. I picked out one and gave chase and after some difficult effort managed to down one over the field. The other must have beat a hasty retreat as there was no sign of him. Schock, Jorke and Hochstetter were in a landing pattern so I joined in at the tail end. As we approached the field I saw a SPAD VII dive on schock who was just landing. I scanned the skies and saw 4 more coming down on us. Schock, Jorke and Hochstetter managed to land and as I was coming in I took a hit to my port wing as a SPAD zipped past me. I managed to set down, taxi off the runway and get clear. I watched as the SPADs made a hasty retreat. We all piled into the RO’s office where upon I made a claim for one SPAD VII which Schock confirmed he saw go down. No other claims were laid. Stroh, Laemmermann and Aldenhoff were missing and we could only hope they were safe somewhere. Henkershafen had been seen to force land but was alright.

YouTube Video:
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 02:20 AM

Nice work, Robert! Those SPADs can be brutal. If they don't like it, they can take their balls and go home! *tee hee*
I have to say that even knowing how it ended, I was sure you were dead when that SPAD pulled up right in front of you! That was too close! duck
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 03:12 AM

Cristel Pallitz. Mission 4, May 4th 1917.

Balloon Defense.

Our flight of five took off early, just after 5am. Traveled south to protect one of our gas bags just north of St Quentin. Slow old boat, my DII. I barely kept up. We lost two en route, engine failure I suppose. Arrived to find a pack of pups terrorizing our balloon!! I tried to stay above them, looking for a chance to swoop in on one's tail. All of a sudden I was in the thick of it. got off a few bursts, but couldn't really tell if I hit anything. Something hit me, though, and I bailed, going into a spin. Somehow I managed to land at Fontaine-Uterte field, engine dead but still in one piece!!

Four days in hospital, and I think that puts me at precisely zero points. At least the mechanics approve of my new paint job.

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 04:03 AM

Hang in there, HarryH, you should be close to getting the DIII when you get out!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 04:27 AM

Fullofit, That must have been quite a surprise to see Jorke, an HA, do that, but then, HA's have 9 lives! biggrin

Harry, just surviving may be all you need and there is still time to collect points as there is a long way to go.

Rick, thanks for the pat on the back and yes, I stopped breathing for a moment when that SPAD came in.
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 04:38 AM

Mission 4
14 May 1917
Escort

My first day back from hospital and we're escorting our friends from Ss-11 over the lines.

We pick up the two seaters and head for the lines. After 15 minutes I notice planes in front of us, high and to our right. As I'm watching these an enemy Nieuport comes screaming down from immediately above us and towards our two seaters. I never even noticed this enemy. von Tutschek and I immediately set off after this gentleman.



von Tutschek closes and the Nieuport turns and comes head on at me. I hold down the trigger and close my eyes for the inevitable. Our two planes touch slightly and my rudder loses some of it's tightness. The enemy keeps spinning on down and crashes.

My planes is still responding but doesn't roll as quickly as it should. Never mind, I head back to our two seaters to give them and possibly me some protection.

As I'm heading Westward another enemy plane comes diving down on me. It's Sopwith two seater. It's one of the planes I noticed earlier.



I'm trying to turn as best I can but my damaged Albatros can't keep up with the Sopwith in the turns. Next thing, there's a flash of black past my cockpit. It's von Tutschek!



He screams down like a demon and latches on to the enemy.



He gets in a number of hits and the enemy makes for home. We both follow the Sopwith and I decide to stay clear of von Tutschek, this is his victory. Off to one side to prevent the enemy from turning I have a ringside seat as I watch him send the enemy down in a spin to crash near our front lines.



I wave my appreciation and decide it's time to head home. I realise you have to have a death wish to fight in a plane that isn't 100% fighting fit!

I land too fast and nearly smash into the fences at the end of the airfield. They really need to get rid of those.



I wait for the rest of the flight to land. They all make it back and 6 claims are put in. von Tutschek tells me about another Nieuport he has claimed. That's 2 for him.



I put my arm around his shoulder and walk back to the mess. "I owe you a drink", I say.

He agrees.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 04:53 AM

Great story, Smosh! Please be very careful on those approaches, we need your guns in the air! Are you noticing how "wind sensitive" the DIII is compared to the DII?
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 05:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Great story, Smosh! Please be very careful on those approaches, we need your guns in the air! Are you noticing how "wind sensitive" the DIII is compared to the DII?


Absolutely. The Albatros is taking some getting used to I have to say.

I need to remember Robert_Wiggins' advice and stay above the action where possible.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 09:02 AM

I had to reinstall WOFF and can't get Robert's backup program to restore flyable pilots.
May I restart?
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 12:08 PM

Mission 5
15 May 1917
Patrol Friendly Lines

We take off into a beautiful May sky.

After patrolling for around 15 minutes I notice a large number of machines in the sky ahead of us.



As we get closer it looks like enemy two seaters being escorted. Suddenly 3 aircraft detach themselves from the horde and come over above us.



SPADS!

I get into a turning fight with one who puts a few holes in my machine. I eventually manage to close up on him and fire a few rounds back. He goes into a spin and doesn't recover.



Having lost the rest of my flight I head home being shadowed by another SPAD above me. I lead him through our observations balloons and close to my home airfield where he loses interest and heads home.

I land safely. We learn that Osterkamp has been killed. It's a sad day in the mess. I put in for 1 kill.





Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 12:41 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
I had to reinstall WOFF and can't get Robert's backup program to restore flyable pilots.
May I restart?


I am fine with this, if it affects winner determination we'll worry about it then!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 12:42 PM

Wow, Robert, that was reaaaaly close eek
I once sliced a Nupe10 in two that way with a PfalzE3... totally forgot, that this Plane had a giant TV-Antenna bolted on Top of the Wing LOL
@Rick:
I try to have my Eyes everywhere... until some Time ago, I mostly flew like a Squid swims, but when you're looking backwards all the Time, you're gonna run into someone, sooner or later...
Like Akh!Akh! in my first Challenge: He ran into a Teammate... or a Teammate ran into him. I can't tell, because I did not really see it biggrin
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 01:13 PM

So Rick, that's what it was. I was lining up behind a Fee last night and my DIII was bouncing up and down so much I never could finish him off. I was wondering what was causing it.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 02:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
So Rick, that's what it was. I was lining up behind a Fee last night and my DIII was bouncing up and down so much I never could finish him off. I was wondering what was causing it.

I think so... I have *complained* duck for some time about how much the wind buffets the Nieuport series of planes starting with the 11. I have not flown the DIII since wind was introduced, but it was the same way in my Quick Combat flights yesterday. Maybe it has something to do with how the sesquiplane lower wing design interacts with the flight engine, but most planes fly like you can't tell if the wind effects are even on, the Nieuport and DIII seem way overdone by comparison...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 02:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings
Originally Posted By: Banjoman
So Rick, that's what it was. I was lining up behind a Fee last night and my DIII was bouncing up and down so much I never could finish him off. I was wondering what was causing it.

I think so... I have *complained* duck for some time about how much the wind buffets the Nieuport series of planes starting with the 11. I have not flown the DIII since wind was introduced, but it was the same way in my Quick Combat flights yesterday. Maybe it has something to do with how the sesquiplane lower wing design interacts with the flight engine, but most planes fly like you can't tell if the wind effects are even on, the Nieuport and DIII seem way overdone by comparison...


This has always been the case. It's nothing new. Can't say if it's realistic or not as I don't have the knowledge on that issue. It may just be that those effects are natural and all the other craft are too calm.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 03:03 PM

I sure miss my DII, it was a very stable gun platform.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 03:32 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12
Flanders


Assigned a new Aeroplane today, Its an Albatross D-III. Painted her last night for the Morning Mission.

10 May 1917.
Mission 5



Escorted DFW's on a bombing raid to an Airfield. 7/10ths cloud cover. Bombing was poor. Our Kette cruised at 73% power back to base.


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Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: carrick58
Dutch Imil Assigned a new Aeroplane today, Its an Albatross D-III. Painted her last night for the Morning Mission.

Your ground crew must have been up all night painting. Nice skin.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 06:14 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Can't say if it's realistic or not as I don't have the knowledge on that issue. It may just be that those effects are natural and all the other craft are too calm.


That is my anecdotal suspicion.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 08:00 PM

Oh, there are a lot of other Planes, that are very "Wind-Sensitive"... think of the HalbD2. If someone blows out a Match beside it, it will roll over...
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 09:39 PM

May 5, 1917 07:03
Schwarm Zwei - 6 planes led by Siegfried Helbing with 4 planes from Schwarm Eins in tow.
Airfield defense at Bertry East/West
Otto's new wingman Gefreiter Max-Johann Eck arrived today. Otto wasn't sure what to make of him. Max looked very pale and Otto wasn't sure if the new arrival was sick or just pronouncing his last name when he introduced himself.
During the patrol they encountered a flight of 5 Strutters.



They approached them carefully so that they don't get peppered by the rear gunners. When they realized that these were less dangerous single-seater versions they attached en masse.



Otto let everyone pick their own target first before settling on the remaining pair.



He got off a burst into the closest one and when he started evading Otto switched to the other one and after a few twists and turns he shot the plane down in flames.



Then he proceeded to rejoining his flight but noticed bursts of flak in the distance to his right and moved to investigate. It was a straggler, maybe even the same Strutter he hit initially? Otto followed his prey and caught up over enemy territory.



Few bursts from behind and the engine stopped with smoke trailing behind.



Otto realized he was very deep behind enemy's lines and didn't want to risk any more encounters. He knew the Strutter was eliminated and had to make a forced landing at Lechelle. Getting to the front lines seemed like hours, when he finally realized he was over friendly territory he started to breathe easier. He landed at the closest airfield which happened to be Brayelles and vowed this day never again to follow an enemy over the lines by himself.
Otto von Trabant - 2 kills
Siegfried Helbing - 1 kill, craft written off, pilot killed
Paul Billik - 1 kill
Jakob Hocke - 1 kill, craft destroyed by enemy, pilot mortally wounded
Friedrich Hochstetter - craft burned out, pilot lightly wounded

Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
Oh, there are a lot of other Planes, that are very "Wind-Sensitive"... think of the HalbD2. If someone blows out a Match beside it, it will roll over...
rofl
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 10:20 PM

The early Fokker E series are very wind sensitive too along with the Aviatik BI.

After my WOFF crash I decided to call Rudolf missing or MIA. He just went POOF into thin air. dizzy
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 10:48 PM

Nice mission Fullofit! a pair!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 10:49 PM

Carrick that checker board pattern look good. It's always hard to line those things up when you wrap them around an Alb
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/09/15 11:15 PM

Thanks Robert, waiting for the next one to get 5 and get the 6-day leave. pilot
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Thanks Robert, waiting for the next one to get 5 and get the 6-day leave. pilot


six day leave eh!! don't forget to bring back some spirits for the boys of Jasta 12!!! cheers
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 01:34 AM

I'm afraid only Schnapps is available. bottles
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 01:56 AM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 6
11 May, 1917
Airfield Defense



I forgot to record the part where my flight shot them all down in like 14 seconds...

Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 02:27 AM



* 6 May 1917 @ 05h01 Balloon defense west of Cambrai

We had winds of 3 kn from the NW with scattered cumulus.

Schock lead the flight with Tutschek, Jorke, Billik, Hochstetter and myself accompanying. We formed up east of the field at 3000m and then set out for the front.
Jorke dropped out with engine problems and landed at Gonnelieu. The rest of us completed the mission with no sight of enemy aircraft. In fact it was eerily quiet on the front with no shelling or gun fire. A refreshingly peaceful flight. We landed safely back at Epinoy.

YouTube Video:
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 02:32 AM

Nice Report Rick! Now where exactly did Steinhoff stash the beer??? Ernst is getting thirsty biggrin

I will have to watch your vid tomorrow as I have an upload running right now, and besides, it's better with coffee and breakfast!!

I watched the vid this morning. I am also surprised that there was not at least some flying debris from the Fee. He just flew on as though nothing had happened.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 04:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Nice Report Rick! Now where exactly did Steinhoff stash the beer??? Ernst is getting thirsty biggrin

I will have to watch your vid tomorrow as I have an upload running right now, and besides, it's better with coffee and breakfast!!


Jeez, Robert... If it was a snake...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 12:39 PM

biggrin
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 12:42 PM

thumbsup Gotta love a beer tent yep
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 12:56 PM

Hagen: "Beer? Is it that, what thee drink, now? Where's ye Mead?"



Sorry for occasional hectic Head-Tracking... and I haven't cut out all the Stutters from Afterburner... but it is watchable...
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 01:49 PM

Great stories and videos Gents. It seems most have survived the first week! Jasta 12 seems to have a bunch of hot shot pilots.
Nietzsche, that PUP came awful close!
Rick, save a beer for Manfred.
I will be back in the skies Monday.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 02:01 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

I watched the vid this morning. I am also surprised that there was not at least some flying debris from the Fee. He just flew on as though nothing had happened.


I know, right!

Originally Posted By: MFair
Great stories and videos Gents. It seems most have survived the first week! Jasta 12 seems to have a bunch of hot shot pilots.


Good point! Everyone try to update the Survey Link by sometime tomorrow and I will get a chart out over the weekend showing our progress!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 03:31 PM

Nietzsche;

Nice vid. You and I seem to have the same experience in that it takes quite a few rounds to finish them off. Far more than I have been used to when flying the Pup or SE. It may just be coincidence but I have yet to down a craft with just a few bursts in this challenge.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 05:17 PM

@Rick:
I thought, I was close... but you easily could have bolted off the Wheels of that FE... what were your Intentions? A Fly-By-Tire-Change? biggrin

@Robert:
I think it's because of the Alb's comparably slow Firing-Rate. I have the Feeling, that a single Vickers spits out more than twice as much as an Alb's Spandau...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 05:17 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12
Flanders


May 11, 1917

Mission 6.


Nothing but bad luck, My Kill was rejected. Nobody saw the fight due to clouds then this morning. Dawn Patrol , I was on of the 10 a/c aloft when we ran into Bristol Fighters ( the kind with 2 guns in the rear.) They were very good flyers. I made 2 high side passes then the rear gunner holed my fuel tank so had to land on a road behind our side of the lines . I spent the day getting help to get back to the Jasta.

Jasta Rpt: 2 Albatross Scouts Destroyed + 1 Damage and 1 forcedown (me). Claims: 1 2 seat Destroyed.


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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
@Rick:
I thought, I was close... but you easily could have bolted off the Wheels of that FE... what were your Intentions? A Fly-By-Tire-Change? biggrin


Well the joke's on him, I stuck a long strand of toilet paper on the wheel as I went by. Won't his face be red when he lands! clapping

carrick, stay safe, Herr Imil!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 06:51 PM

...imagine that:
His Teammate flies by, extremely close, wildly waving his Arms, yelling: "Someone just stole your Wheels, Man!"
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 09:22 PM

Rick, I didn't see or hear any of those rounds hit that Lucky Fee dizzy
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 09:23 PM

May 6, 1917 06:02
This mission includes Kette Zwei only, consisting of 4 planes led by von Tutschek
Airfield defense at Eswars.
While flying the patrol over the assigned airfield, Otto thought to himself that after yesterday's events he deserves a quiet mission. This proved to be the case so far. So far, because just as the flight was returning home they were jumped by 5 British N17s.



This time Otto didn't wait for everyone to choose their target. The enemy was everywhere all of a sudden and it looked like every member of his flight needed help. He latched on to a pair following a single Albatros and peppered the air around them to split them up.



He picked one of them at random landing hits until the Nieup dove down to the deck. Otto didn't follow. Looking around he spotted von Tutschek taking care of one Tommy shooting it down in flames.




All of a sudden the air around was quiet again. Otto thought this was it, but then, not so distant flak in front of his plane informed him otherwise. Another N17 survived still. Otto flew to meet him head on and after short dogfight he took the enemy down.




He checked the nearby airspace again and returned to his home airfield, but there was no one else there. Were they all dead or was he the first one there? He waited a bit longer but no one showed up. He later learned von Tutschek and Billik landed at a nearby field with light damage. Only Otto's wingman didn't return. What was his name again?

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 10:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit

Only Otto's wingman didn't return. What was his name again?

I know the feeling. I am going through wingmen so fast they are starting to call me Steinhoff Callahan!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/10/15 10:59 PM

Go ahead, make my day! ar15
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 12:01 AM

Sam's Evil Twin doesn't know if he's frustrated, disgusted, or livid: the first three missions were "go up, got shot at, try to land before he crashes." Mission four was a patrol, but when they sere taking off, bombs were coming down! What the heck!?! No one wanted to let us know this was incoming? Then, Lt. Shock chose to ignore them and not pursue (they were too high to catch, he said). They just bomb us, and we did nothing!! But it gets worse - later, we met some sopwith 2-seaters, and S.E.T. got some shots into one. He was really laying into it, when the observer popped up, and you just know that a lucky bullet hit the tank, and S.E.T. had to break off. But he wanted to explode as he watched his near-victim fly right through the rest of the formation, and they let him go!!! Shock said, "we were already landing, and the decision is final! Are you kidding me?? and today, engine failure. 5 missions, and 1.48 hours flying time. not quite helping the cause.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 12:32 AM



* 7 May 1917 @ 06h05 Airfield defense of Bersee aerodrome

We had 3 kn winds from the NW withs cattered cumulus of moderate height from 609 to 2133m.

Tutscheck lead the flight with Schock, Hochstetter, Billik and myself accompanying. Eins flight sent Jorke, Kainenber and Henkershafen for protective cover. Upon arrival over Bersee Tutschek gave the signal he spotted enemy craft and pointed down below us towards Bersee. There were three Pups from RFC-46 engaged with 5 of our DIII’s from Jasta 10. We dove down to engage. I had a run at one Pup but he fell to the guns of Schock, so I disengaged to find another. When I did I engaged him as well and he too fell to the guns of one of Jasta 10’s pilots. What happened to the third I didn’t see but I suspect that with our over powering numbers (13 to 3), that he also fell. We reformed up and headed back to Epinoy. All of us landed safely with no injuries or losses for the effort. A very successful mission in hand, we all headed for the mess rather jubilant.

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Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 12:37 AM

Originally Posted By: loftyc
Sam's Evil Twin doesn't know if he's frustrated, disgusted, or livid: the first three missions were "go up, got shot at, try to land before he crashes." Mission four was a patrol, but when they sere taking off, bombs were coming down! What the heck!?! No one wanted to let us know this was incoming? Then, Lt. Shock chose to ignore them and not pursue (they were too high to catch, he said). They just bomb us, and we did nothing!! But it gets worse - later, we met some sopwith 2-seaters, and S.E.T. got some shots into one. He was really laying into it, when the observer popped up, and you just know that a lucky bullet hit the tank, and S.E.T. had to break off. But he wanted to explode as he watched his near-victim fly right through the rest of the formation, and they let him go!!! Shock said, "we were already landing, and the decision is final! Are you kidding me?? and today, engine failure. 5 missions, and 1.48 hours flying time. not quite helping the cause.


Lofty, you sure are having your share of it!!! Bad luck, that is!!!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 12:40 AM

Fullofit, some nice pics there! Really crowded sky!!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 01:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Fullofit, some nice pics there! Really crowded sky!!


Hey Robert, totally new experience for me after flying the "friendly" skies of 1915 in the Centenary challenge.
Otto is now an Ace and has spent some time painting his shiny new DIII.

Too bad about those stolen victories on your last mission. Hate it when they spend 1 bullet to take it away from you.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 01:56 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Fullofit, some nice pics there! Really crowded sky!!


Hey Robert, totally new experience for me after flying the "friendly" skies of 1915 in the Centenary challenge.
Otto is now an Ace and has spent some time painting his shiny new DIII.

Too bad about those stolen victories on your last mission. Hate it when they spend 1 bullet to take it away from you.


If I have learned one thing in these challenges, it is that everything comes to he who survives and waits. I'm sure I will get my share in due time if I stay alive.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 04:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

If I have learned one thing in these challenges, it is that everything comes to he who survives and waits. I'm sure I will get my share in due time if I stay alive.


Yikes! I'm still struggling to learn that one!

Hang in there, loftyc, at the risk of going all "Annie" on you, the sun may come out tomorrow! (Or it may rain again! thumbsup )
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 03:59 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12
Flanders


May 12, 1917

Mission 7


My bad luck continues. During the morning patrol , my fellow flyers robbed me a Kill. I was smoking a FEE then went into a cloud at which time my own wing man got in the last shots and the bagged the machine. I became separated from the kette and was spotted by a Tommie Patrol of 5 Sopwith Pups and chased Home. I did see our Flack gunners hit one of my tormentors a lucky shot ?


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Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 05:34 PM

Better invite that flak gunner to the beer tent!

On one mission not related to this challenge I found shelter at a friendly airfield with a tenacious enemy on my tail. I pulled up near the machine gun and flak cannon. It was the first time I've actually watched the men operate their weapons and had a good time watching the men move and the flak cannon fire.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 05:42 PM

Yeah... and the Aces can be especially dangerous... when I see one ore more Aces turning towards my Target, I abandon it and pick on someone else. Aces don't really care, where you are or wether you are in their Flight-Path or not. Also, they often tend to go in Packs against one lonely, poor EA...
You see them all dive away... leaving you alone with the whole Rest of the Spanish Armada...
a Sky full of black Dots, all sreaming: "ExTeRmInAte! ThE! DoCtOrrRRrRR!" eek
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 06:13 PM

Yeah, smart move....I've been in more than one collision with HAs getting hot for a kill I've already turned into a wounded duck. They collide with each other at times going for easy pickings.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 09:56 PM



8 May 1917 @ 07h03 Patrol to Phalempin

Wind was 3 kn from tne NNW with High cirrus and occasional cumulus clouds.

Jorke lead the kette with Schock, Tutschek, Billik and myself accompanying. We formed up just east of Epinoy and then headed NNW to Phalempin.
I expected it to be a quiet mission behind our lines and it was until we circled Phalempin at approximately 3000m. Jorke signaled enemy aircraft directly ahead at some distance and we gave chase. It turned out to be 4 DH2’s from RFC-32 headed our way. One of them turned back leaving us to deal with the other three. We were on equal altitude but they had the advantage of turn fighting and we had the speed. I tangled with one for quite awhile until I discovered I had to dive, climb and snap roll into a tight turn at the top of my climb. I managed to down one and then another with the aid of Jorke as we double teamed him. The third fell to the guns of Tutschek but not before he was slightly wounded. He crashed his DIII trying to land at Phalempin. The craft was a write off.

We reformed and returned to base. Jorke confirmed my first kill and graciously gave me the second indicating that I had been the last to pepper him before he crashed. Both claims were confirmed later in the day by the flight crews at Phalempin.
Tutschek made it back to base early the next morning as the wound was only a scratch. I asked about his crash and he indicated one of his aileron control wires was severed and he considered himself lucky to get down in one piece.

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Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 10:41 PM

Robert, congrats on the double victory. Those pushers can take a lickin'.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/11/15 10:46 PM

May 13, 1917 05:06
Back from his 6-day leave after becoming an Ace, Otto was pleasantly surprised with great news. He will now be flying the Albatros DIII. Over are the days of being left behind by the rest of the flight in faster machines. If he knew he would be getting a new mount, Otto would have used more of his leave painting it. What he has now will have to do. His new wingman also arrived: Offizierstellvertreter Heinrich-Franz Hertel. What a mouthful!
The mission was to patrol enemy front lines at FF2321. Schwarm Zwei of 6 would be led by von Tutschek and Schwarm Eins of 4 would directly assist.
Otto's flight encountered a brave flight of 4 British N23's en route to patrol area.



Von Trabant bagged one with difficulty.



He told himself he was still getting used to the new plane. His flight lost 2 members during the scrap. Maybe they just got separated? Schwarm Eins was also nowhere to be found. Von Tutschek decided it was prudent to wave off the mission and directed them to land at a nearby airfield of Phalempin.
Otto von Trabant - 1 kill
Otto Rosenfeld - 1 kill
Paul Billik - 1 kill

Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 12:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins


Lofty, you sure are having your share of it!!! Bad luck, that is!!!



Nah, I'm sure it's just coincidence. I mean, if it really was some kind of "bad luck," then I would have had something wrong today too. Oh, wait, I did, didn't I - sounded like a broken valve that made me drop out! You have to picture me sitting in the cockpit just shaking my head, with my eyes closed.

Not only that, I saw a whole pile (9) of Frenchies over the front, and the fearless Lt. Shock was ignoring them and landing again at a field right under them. Seriously, who picked this guy for a Flight Leader?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 12:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Robert, congrats on the double victory. Those pushers can take a lickin'.


Thanks Lofty. It's nice to get some tallies!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 12:26 AM

Fullofit, "6 for 6", now don't let me hear anyone say "I'm not getting any confirmed kills"!! biggrin
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 01:45 AM

Rick,
It's 6 for 6 plus a phantom rejection. wacky

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 03:07 AM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 7
12 May, 1917
Bomber Escort





Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 03:55 AM

Rick, Steinhoff survived another one thumbsup
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 04:05 AM

Rick, the entire Schwarm Eins should be beerated, if they ever come back.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 05:45 AM

duh rofl
Posted By: CatKnight

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 10:09 AM

I haven't been able to keep up with writing anything, but I thought I'd report that all is well. So far.




Most of my flights have been near Cambrai. Early on I downed a Sopwith Pup in NML, but didn't get the option to claim it. Perhaps the infantry brought him down.

Oscar earned his Ehrenbacher and Iron Cross (2nd class) on successive missions bringing down a total of two Pups, two Nieuports and a BE 12 that was sitting on the ground but needed shooting at anyway. After six days off for making ace, a Tripe joined the list.

On our last mission we encountered a flight of RE 8s. Despite having upgraded to the Albatros D.III, my companions easily outpaced me and engaged. They managed to make one peel out of formation, so I chased it into a cloud and shot the pilot at about 20 yards. No witnesses alas, and I couldn't find the plane again when I left the cloud, so my claim was rejected.

On the way home I saw a plane flying low and went to investigate. It was my wingman, weaving with smoke billowing from his plane. He was attempting an emergency landing at Riencourt but couldn't make the turn onto his final leg and cruised into some trees instead. Too bad, especially as he'd shot down the other 3 RE8s.
Posted By: Maeran

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 01:32 PM

My first report is also my last.

Willie von Bonbon collided with a French Nieuport on his 4th mission. He had 2 unconfirmed kills.
This was the very day that he flew with a custom paint job.

I have been - for the first time - recording the missions to video, so I'll edit them down to youtube friendly sizes and post them. But von Bonbon is gone.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 01:41 PM

Yikes! Sorry to hear that, Maeran, at least two of my challenges have ended in collisions, including the last Albatros one. I will be looking forward to the videos, though.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 01:58 PM

I just watched that last video, Robert, man, Jorke really wanted that Dh2. Great job staying on him and great shooting for the kill!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 02:28 PM

Week one results from the respondents:
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 02:45 PM

Sorry to hear that, Maeran. These Collisions seem to take out more Planes than actual Gun Shots...
Taking this into Consideration, my Mission #6 is a great Example of how NOT to play this Game charge

Mission #5 is more a kind of "eventful Eventlessness"... we were 6 against 3 - and the only Planes acting with something like a Concept, were the enemies` Nupes. Most of the Time, I was cluelessly flying around, doing nothing really useful
Mission #6 is definitely worth watching... not for "how to fly propelry", but for strict entertainment Purpose biggrin

Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 04:20 PM

Auf Wiedersehen to old John Dory.....on a hell of a roll until nailed by an eager wingie.

I probably deserved it for having shamelessly poached their prey on many occasions....good luck all!!!!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 04:30 PM

Dutch Imil, Flyer
Jasta 12
Flanders


May 13, 1917.

Mission 8


Dawn Patrol: Jasta 12 put up 11 a/c No contact

Balloon Defence: Almost got the Axe, My Kette of 6 machines got jumped by N-23's ( 4? ) How they got pass the 4 a/c High cover I dont know. I got off a couple of bursts in a turning fight then pick up his wing flyer on my six. He was very good. I couldnt shake him so turn back closer to my wingmates as he shot my kite full of holes. My wingmates chased him off and I dove for home. A close call.


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Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 04:33 PM

Gaw, tough luck. I nearly bought the farm today myself.

May 14, 1917 06:06
Patrol friendly front lines at FF8331.
Schwarm Zwei - 7 planes lead by Jorke. Schwarm Eins - 5 planes - direct assist.
The patrol was very pleasant with no enemy in sight, not even a speck. Schwarm Eins kept about 1 km behind and above.



Otto's flight was turning back for home when someone in front noticed 3 planes over enemy territory - 3 French Strutters. Otto knew this would be a slaughter. Boy, was he wrong. Like a magnet, 2 Strutters latched on to Otto, while everyone else from his Schwarm, all 6 of them, went after the single Sopwith. Soon they all disappeared leaving Otto with 2 angry Strutters on his tail.



Otto thought Schwarm Eins will be here soon to help, but failed to realize Schwarm Eins called it a day and was already half way home. Otto's plane was quickly getting full of holes. Out of desperation Otto tried to dive for his lines, which worked initially, but the Strutters soon caught up and begun firing again. More holes. Otto said his good-byes and kept struggling with controls as the planes was severely banking to the right - not making it an easy target for the two pursuers. And then something unexpected happened. The Strutters turned back. Otto looked over his shoulder as they were moving away and realized what was happening. The rest of Schwarm Zwei was returning after dispatching of the single Strutter. Otto has never seen such a beautiful sight. He had the front row seats to the show that was about to begin. He watched and could not believe his eyes what was happening. They simply passed each other without a single shot fired. Otto returned to the nearest field disgusted with the cowardice of his comrades. On a bright note he lives to fight another day.
Billik - 1 kill
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 04:34 PM

Carrick, OUCH!!! Bet the hands were a little shaky and you still holding your breath when you landed!! jawdrop
Your Alb resembles swiss cheese! yep
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 04:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Maeran
My first report is also my last.

Willie von Bonbon collided with a French Nieuport on his 4th mission. He had 2 unconfirmed kills.
This was the very day that he flew with a custom paint job.

I have been - for the first time - recording the missions to video, so I'll edit them down to youtube friendly sizes and post them. But von Bonbon is gone.


Maeran, condolences Sir! look forward to your vids!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 04:42 PM

Gaw, that's a hell of a tally that John Dory racked up! Cudos to you and him! Sad to see him go!
CatKnight, good to finally hear from you. Keep up the good fight, the Kaiser is counting on you!!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 05:56 PM

I don't know, Nietzsche, you looked like you were throwing that DII around like a champ! I certainly couldn't have done better... it's hard when everyone is faster and more maneuverable than you, even your wingmen!

That was an impressive run, gaw1, I'm sorry it's over!

carrick, fullofit, hang in there, you two!
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 07:07 PM

me too.....can't wait for the next one!!! Thanks Rick!!!
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 07:12 PM

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An outstanding collection of reports, stories, adventures, videos, and screenshots. Congratulations to all of you who continue to survive in this challenge, and condolences to those of you whose pilots have fallen. To the latter group you can add another who has earned the Hölzernes Kreuz. For young Georg Pfeiffer mission seven proved to be, much like the seven sins, deadly. It started as any other, and on a beautiful day too. But almost immediately after lifting into the the bright blue sky Georg's wingman collided with him and both fell in flames to the grassy field below. So ends another pair of virtual lives.


A view of the flight line. Who knew what was about to happen.



Seconds later Georg is hit by his wingman and both planes fall in full blaze.



The remainder of Kette Zwei look on in horror at the two columns of smoke rising from the remains.


And now the letters home to relatives and loved ones to inform them of the ultimate sacrifice made. Such a waste.

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Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 07:13 PM

Oh dear - what a way to die...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 07:55 PM

We can be thankful that these are "virtual lives"!
Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 07:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
Mission #6 is definitely worth watching... not for "how to fly propelry", but for strict entertainment Purpose

#6 was some fierce aerobatics! 'Played hell with your gunnery. Persistence paid off, even tho' the Englander had the good sense to abruptly turn into you each time he was about to cross your gunsights.
Posted By: gaw1

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 08:23 PM

Bloody Hell.....and I thought the field was safe enough......YIKES!! Condolences....
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 08:30 PM

That has got to be my most frustrating way to die in WOFF, and I've died in most all of the ways that are possible. With such a good AI you would think the other planes would be watching, but sometimes it seems they act like they don't even know your plane is there. Anyway Lou, sorry you didn't go out in a blaze of glory.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 09:32 PM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 8
13 May, 1917
Balloon Busting






I swear, I need a tracer mod that makes them as big as flaming basketballs because I apparently have no clue where my shots are going...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 10:17 PM



* 8 May 1917 @ 07h03 Patrol to Phalempin

Wind was 3 kn from tne NNW with High cirrus and occasional cumulus clouds.

Jorke lead the kette with Schock, Tutschek, Billik and myself accompanying. We formed up just east of Epinoy and then headed NNW to Phalempin.
I expected it to be a quiet mission behind our lines and it was until we circled Phalempin at approximately 3000m. Jorke signaled enemy aircraft directly ahead at some distance and we gave chase. It turned out to be 4 DH2’s from RFC-32 headed our way. One of them turned back leaving us to deal with the other three. We were on equal altitude but they had the advantage of turn fighting and we had the speed. I tangled with one for quite awhile until I discovered I had to dive, climb and snap roll into a tight turn at the top of my climb. I managed to down one and then another with the aid of Jorke as we double teamed him. The third fell to the guns of Tutschek but not before he was slightly wounded. He crashed his DIII trying to land at Phalempin. The craft was a write off.

We reformed and returned to base. Jorke confirmed my first kill and graciously gave me the second indicating that I had been the last to pepper him before he crashed. Both claims were confirmed later in the day by the flight crews at Phalempin.
Tutschek made it back to base early the next morning as the wound was only a scratch. I asked about his crash and he indicated one of his aileron control wires was severed and he considered himself lucky to get down in one piece.

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Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 11:08 PM

Rick, are we allowed to request transfer out of J12? Sam's Evil Twin is just plain disgusted with them. He and two others ended up pursuing a Nupe that had a good lead on them heading west, when two others cam the other way. S.E.T. swung and looked around, and both Nupes were on him, and his two mates just left him on his own. And then a third came. He got hit, but was able to get down below tree level and work his way back east, even though all three stuck with him. After they eventually broke off, a few miles on our side, S.E.T. signaled that he was splitting, only to "be informed" that he was already alone. Sure enough, upon arrival back at Epinoy, the quad was already in Lt Shock's favorite maneuver - "landing!" If this is how these guys are going to behave, then S.E.T. wants nothing to do with them.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 11:22 PM

Lofty, I share your pain. Their favourite maneuver is to get back to base ASAP and raid Steinhoff's beer tent.
Posted By: DukeIronHand

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/12/15 11:57 PM

Based on my (apparently ahistorical) luck with the Alb series I can see it must be only me who can't fly the damn thing.
Quite a few left alive much to my surprise - if the OP is being updated in a timely manner of course. Though oddly it seems the DII is a tougher foe then the DIII most times for my RFC boys.
Keep up the good work gentlemen!
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 12:28 AM

Loftyc, I had the same problems when we did Rick's last challenge. My solution was to just always lead the flight, I know that's not accurate but it was either that or always running from the engagement.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 02:37 AM

jawdrop A bad moon rising.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 02:46 AM

I would rather say the honeymoon is over. duck
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 02:53 AM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 9
14 May, 1917
Line Patrol






Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 03:04 AM

Rick, you need a wet nurse!
Glad you're still with us.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 03:11 AM



* 9 May 1917 @ 06h01 Patrol lines from Cambrai to St Quentin

We had wind of 6 kn from the NW with medium density cumulus from 914 to 3048m.
Today I received the Eisernes Kreuz 2 Klasse award.

Tutschek lead the kette with Billik, Laemmermann, myself and Necka accompanying. Eins flight were to provide protecting cover lead by Schock with Jorke, Hochstetterf, Kaisenberg and Henkershafen accompanying.

Our flight to the lines was quiet uneventful but as we approached that part of the lines parallel to Mont St. Martin aerodrome, Tutschek made a hard bank to port and I immediately saw why. Up ahead were two groups of 6 black specs slightly higher than us and directly in front. I banked hard to port again and came in behind Eins flight, buying myself some time to gain the advantage of height. As Eins flight came directly over the melee I broke formation again and stayed high waiting for an opportunity to present itself. I could clearly see that one group of 6 was composed of Nieuport 23’s and the other was Sopwith strutter single seaters. Both dangerous adversaries. Not wanting to get caught between a few of them I waited until I spotted one N23 climbing to engage me. I drew him higher away from his mates and then banked to engage. We tangled for awhile and I refused to let him draw me down low. I hit him several times and then he broke away but by then another was sneaking up behind me. I spotted him and banked hard to port but he managed to put a couple of rounds into my tail as he passed. I stayed high and dove on him every chance I had, finally doing enough damage that he was unable to take strong evasive manouvers and I send him down in smoke close to Mont St. Martin. I spotted one DII below me making for Fontaine - Uterte but none of the other members of Kette Eins or zwei could be seen. I headed towards Fontaine myself and landed there to discover that it was Necka who had landed and had 2 days worth of damage to his craft.

I reported in to the RO making my claim and asking for information about the rest of our two flights. It was later that day that I discovered Tutschek and Billik both were lightly wounded and had their crafts destroyed in landing but were safe on our side of the lines.
Laemmermann had a claim in an was safe at Gonnelieu with 2 days of damage to his craft. Zwei flight came away from the encounter clean and with no claims. I suspect that they never engaged the enemy as I did not see them go in. I was the only one to come away with no significant damage to my craft. Given that we were 6 against 12, things weren’t so bad and could have been far worse.

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Posted By: CatKnight

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 04:38 AM

Well, perhaps I shouldn't have reported in.

Mission 8 was supposed to be a cake walk: Patrol over an airfield about 5 miles away. Partly cloudy day with light cumulus/fluffies high up. Beautiful day for flying.

I was thinking of what to write for this routine jaunt when my friend the autopilot thought I should land. I turned it off and listened closely; nothing. I moved to rejoin the formation, then noticed my RPMs starting to drop off.

Right. Headed for an airfield - we were defending Villers au Tertre, so I had about nine choices. I chose Roucourt, then dove for a group of trees before the airfield figuring I'd level out there and glide in.

Nice idea, but it didn't work. I levelled out but was still going so fast that with slight pressure on the elevator I still overshot the field and its fence. I used my rudder to turn and landed awkwardly on the next field over. It probably would have been okay, except I then proceeded to sail into fence # 2. And died.

Grr. I didn't even get to use my new skin.

Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 01:46 PM

CatKnight, are you a Colts fan? Sorry about your demise, I thought the killer fences had been toned down a bit.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 01:48 PM

Hats off to those still alive!
and empathy for those who died...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Hats off to those still alive!
and empathy for those who died...


And to those losing pilots due to system glitches!!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 02:36 PM

Ow, sorry to hear that, CatKnight! The Albatros does seem to have a very long glide path. I've had to go around again because I was going too fast before. That paint job looks great, too!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 02:52 PM

May 15, 1917 05:03
Close air support - escort 4 DFW C.V. from Ss-11 to bomb airfield at Villeselve.
Schwarm Zwei - 6 pilots led by Karl Schock. Schwarm Eins: 5 - direct assist.
This was a flight deep into enemy territory, if anything went wrong over there Otto would definitely become a PoW, or worse. The mission did not go well from the start. The bombers didn't show up, but Shock decided to continue with the mission anyway. "What are we going to escort? Ourselves?" Otto pondered as he maneuvered into his slot in the formation. As they were crossing into enemy airspace 3 SPAD's showed up out of nowhere. 2 Albs peeled off to take care of them while the rest kept going. 2 SPAD's vs. 2 Albatrosen, as the 3rd SPAD continued after the rest of Schwarm Zwei. As usual, Schwarm Eins was nowhere to be seen. Otto kept signaling to the rest that there is a SPAD closing in, but no one reacted. It was all up to Otto, since he knew he was the first one in line to taste the French lead. He turned his plane around and they started turning and twisting without either of them being able to get a bead on the other. They kept losing altitude and were just under 1000 m when second SPAD arrived and then an Albatros right behind. SPAD fighting Otto reconsidered and followed the other Frenchman home. Otto did not follow. He decided that the SPAD had the right idea and he wouldn't last long in enemy territory all by himself. He got his bearings and flew straight back home to his airfield to Epinoy to have one of the cold beers from Steinhoff's tent. While he was landing he noticed 4 lonely DFW's circling nearby waiting for their escort. What has happened to the German war machine?
Hochstetter - 1 kill
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 03:48 PM

Boy, Steinhoff must have a veritable brewery within his tent!! yep
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 04:04 PM

His tent also explains Jasta 12's overall poor performance. bottles
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 04:53 PM

LIQUID CORash... ish...good...stuff bottles
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 05:07 PM

Dutch Imil, Flyer
Jasta 12
Flanders

14 may 1917

Mission 9


Well we got our Butts kick again! Bomber Escort deep penetration of enemy airfield. I was in a 6 a/c close escort of 4 DFW,s when Spads dove through the formation firing, I didnt see any hits. I crossed over to the port side of the formation and spotted our 4 a/c high cover going after them. ( 2 albatross posted as missing no claims )
I saw a/c coming up on the starboard low (4 or 5) N-23,s. Breaking off, I took on the closest and He flew rings around me. After being all shot to E ' LL , I put her down close to the enemy side of the trenches and Ran like the devil for our side. A friendly shock trooper pull me in and stuck me in a bunker till the shelling stopped. Looks like dinner with the Infantry tonight.

Losses: 2 Missing + 1 forced (Shot) down. No claims.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 05:08 PM

WOW. take leave for a few days and the Jasta takes a beating. My condolences to the downed pilots. Manned flew number 8 today and thought it would be his last but luck was with him. News at 11.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 05:48 PM

Manfred Fuchs and 3 others were to patrol enemy lines. We ran smack into 6 Nieuport 23's. Manfred had 2 on his tail and got shot up a bit. Controls sluggish, stalling on any turn to the left, its time to get out of here.





I though I was clear and while checking my map for the nearest place to set down, here we go!







Two of our flight did not make it. It seems the rookies do not last very long. I landed at Douai and found Billik sitting on the field, flying cap covering his face to hold back the tears.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 05:52 PM

MFair, I do like Manfred's Alb skin! quite classy
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 05:54 PM

Glad the Brit didn't crash into the sausage factory or the beefers grazing in the field nearby.
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
MFair, I do like Manfred's Alb skin! quite classy

Yes, indeed - great colours!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 05:57 PM

Robert, thank you Sir. The snake skin was a bit too over the top.
Mudwasp, that would have been a travesty! I hope the cows saw everything because the were my only witness!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 05:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Olham
Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
MFair, I do like Manfred's Alb skin! quite classy

Yes, indeed - great colours!


Thanks Olham, a true compliment coming from the Master.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 06:03 PM

Hahaha, cows listed on the claim form.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 08:06 PM

Journal Entry: May 13, 1917
Epinoy

Something is amiss in Jasta 12. This morning's sortie was led by Leutnant Schock and we were ordered to fly a defensive patrol over a local railyard. Everything was going fine until two SPAD VIIs appeared flying about 5000 ft below us, I assumed we would attack, but Leutnant Schock upon seeing the SPADs fired the flare sending us home. Very strange behavior from one of the Kaiser's officers, I hope it isn't a sign of things to come.

On a side note, I was able to take a really nice photograph of Schwarm Eins flying alongside Schwarm Zwei.

Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 09:31 PM

Sam's Evil Twin had a blow-out argument with his flight, the upshot of which was that S.E.T. would lead the next mission, an escort. S.E.T. suspected a set-up, expecially when the DFW's didn't show. He flew on towards the front, though, and wouldn't you know, there they were. He was tempted to leave them, since they didn't seem to want help, but he stuck with them anyway. Eventually, a flight of Nupes came up. S.E.T. signaled attack, got an OK, and his flight .... kept with the DFW's. He signaled again, and was ignored again. No surprise, two Nupes went after him, and hit him fairly badly, including his tank. Intel keeps saying that the Nupes can't dive without ripping apart, but the two on S.E.T.'s tail apparently didn't get that report. S.E.T. crashed and was given a military burial. May his squadmates burn in Hell.

There will be no Sam's Sometimes-nice Triplet.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 09:45 PM

Must be a bad morale brewing in Jasta 12
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 10:16 PM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 10
29 May, 1917
Recon Escort







I am feeling a little embarrassed about the claims I am filing and not getting confirmed! I'm glad I have them on tape so I don't think I am going crazy! Also, had to bolter the first landing as I was coming around to fast! Got her on the second pass...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 11:03 PM

Rick, you sure are doing fine at the controls, er ah, Steinhoff is!!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 11:04 PM



* 10 May 1917 @ 07h02 Patrol our lines from Oppy to Monchy

Today I took my new DIII for it’s first combat flight. Freshly painted it was, thanks to Necka, a fine artist. Winds were 6 kn from the WNW with Moderate cumulus from 700 to 2200m.

Schock lead kette zwei with Rosenfeld, Jorke, Billik, Hochstetter and myself. Kette Eins was lead by Tutschek and composed of Necka, Kaisenberg, Cartens and Laemmermann.

We formed up just east of the field at 3000m and then turned for the front, gaining altitude to 3500m. 5 members of Jasta 2 passed over us on their way back from the front.
As we passed over Athies, Schock spotted 4 hostiles crossing the lines about a 300m below us on our port side and he gave the signal to attack. As we got closer I could see that they were Nieuport 23’s from Escadrille 69. I made a point of trying to maintain the advantage of altitude and was doing well until I was double teamed. After a hectic few minutes of weaving and bobbing, Billik came to my rescue and chased one off. I pursued the other, losing him and then finding him again and by the time I got into firing range we were almost over Oppy. I shot him down in flames and returned to find my kette mates but they had already gone. I returned to Epinoy and landed. Shortly afterwards, Rosenfeld and Billik came in with Hochstetter. Jorke had been lightly wounded and forced down on our side of the lines but his craft was destroyed. Schock limped in to Douai with 2 days worth of damage to his craft. Billik, Hochstetter and I put in claims for a Nieuport 23 each. Billik informed me that he saw mine go down and I was pleased to hear that because I thought I was alone in the area.

Eins flight had Tutschek lightly wounded with craft destroyed, Cartens lightly wounded with 2 days damage to his craft, and Necka killed by the enemy. Kaisenberg managed to down one and put in a claim.

I was feeling pretty low at the loss of Necka who was a fine spirited lad and possessed a fine artistic talent. Every time I get into my DIII I will be reminded of him and the gift he gave me with his paint job.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/13/15 11:52 PM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 11
3 June, 1917
Friendly Territory Patrol



No video because literally nothing happened!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 12:07 AM

Manfred Fuchs
Jasta 12
Mission 9

We were tasked with escorting some bombers to Belleview. Lord I hate these missions over the lines! We saw some specks heading our way while crossing the lines but they were either ours or EA escorting their own aircraft.



A few miles east of the target, 4 EA attacked us. I dispatched one of the Frenchmen and climbing back up saw another one on Billik's tail. He did not stand a chance.



We formed back up and landed at a forward aerodrome. The next morning I was informed that my last 3 kills were confirmed. The two Frenchmen being Aces. I was also told I would get a new machine. The new V strutter. If I survive mission 10 then I will get 6 days off.

Posted By: CatKnight

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 12:15 AM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
CatKnight, are you a Colts fan? Sorry about your demise, I thought the killer fences had been toned down a bit.


No, not really. I figured I'd keep the 'lucky horseshoe' theme though for the challenge. Little good it did me smile


Fences have been toned down alot. A few days ago I managed to sail through two and survived with 40% health. This was just the RNG gods telling me I should have listened to my autopilot.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 12:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins
Rick, you sure are doing fine at the controls, er ah, Steinhoff is!!

Thanks, Robert, I think I am starting to get some of the DIII quirks down. You sure had that Nieuport's number! I will admit I got a bit scared there when it appeared the universe stopped for a minute...then you moved your head and I realized you were paused!

MFair, very nice, well designed new paint scheme, although I loved the snake one too! thumbsup

That's hard loftyc, both the non-committing squads and the super diving Nupes are old standards on the complaint list. It's especially frustrating as many times it works beautifully, as in Robert's latest video where his wingmen break off and attack at just about the same time he sees them. But I also know from personal experience how aggravating it can be when it doesn't work... I hope you at least had some fun! salute
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 11:42 AM

Rickof course I (grrrrr) had fun! And I (grrrrr) can't wait for (grrrr) the next one!

In the meantime, I'm creating a pilot to fly Nupes opposite Jasta 12.....
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 12:35 PM

Damn, I wanted to use S.E.T. in the Willy / Hagen Correspondence...
This was quite one costly Weekend. Maybe, it was my Luck, that I was playing "Evil Genius" instead of WOFF, then...
I'm planing to catch up this Evening, but this high Mortality-Rate urges to play a lot more careful... if it goes on like that, the Contest will end this Thursday :-S
I get the Feeling, that most Players were taken out due to "Traffic-Issues", right?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 12:35 PM



* 11 May 1917 @ Patrol to Avesnes-le-Sec aerodrome and hence to the crossroads just north of Le Cateau aerodrome. Then return straight home

We had 6 kn winds from the WSW with scattered cumulus from 800 to 3000m.

Rosenfeld lead the kette with Tutschek, Hochstetterf and myself accompanying. Kette eins sent Jorke, Schock and Billik to assist. We formed up just east of the field at 3100m and then set out for Avesnes-le-Sec gaining altitude until we reached 4000m. The whole flight was uneventful with no enemy craft encountered. On the return trip as we crossed the Escout river I broke formation and headed over to Boistrancourt aerodrome to visit a family friend Lt. Heinrich Gontermann. His father and mine served in the cavalry together. I had hopes to find him there but when I landed I realized he was out on a mission so I took off and returned to base disappointed and expecting to be disciplined.
Tutschek was waiting for me when I landed and I got appropriately dressed down.

YouTube Video:


If you don't have RAF_Louvert's mod of Boistrancourt loaded, you should. It's an amazing piece of work! thumbsup
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 04:07 PM

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Robert, glad to know you are still enjoying the Boistrancourt mod. smile2

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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 07:08 PM

Dutch Imil
Flyer, 12 Jasta





May 17,1917.

Mission 9


Hq Army called they said that enemy A/c are over no mans land. We departed with 6 Kette a/c flight in two Vees. I flew a loaner from Jasta 13 with a white tail . No problem finding the tommies just follow the Flack puffs. 4 Fee,s 3 high and 1 low and slow. Most of my wingmates went after the low a/c.
I attacked the high formation along with Rosenfield. what a Sight ! we came in just under the formation firing from 300 yds. I used 454 rds of machine gun. My Fee burned then blew up at the same tine another Fee on fire took a header for earth. I swung around to help 2 wingmates and saw their target fall out of control and another on fire.


Jasta Rpt. all 4 Fee,s were destroyed. 1 Albatross crashed on landing pilot wnd.


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Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 09:55 PM

Good show Carrick, that last pic looks like you're flying through a meteor shower.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/14/15 11:04 PM

Great stuff, carrick! Keep up the good work!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 12:02 AM

I see I'm late off the line again! Cudos Carrick, glad to see so many are still flying. This bodes well for gained experience since the last challenge.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 12:49 AM

Carrick, may I add my congratulations on you fine mission! Be carefull.

Manfred Fuchs
Mission 10

Manfred and three others were to intercept enemy aircraft near Vimy Junction. We spotted 3 specs a little below and north of us. The flight leader turned us toward home. What the heck is he doing? We have all the advantage! We throttled back and slowly descended southeast. Ah! He's laying a trap I quests. The three Neiuports caught up with us and the dance began. I peppered one and saw smoke, then his propeller stopped. No time to celebrate, another is right there! I swing in behind him and do the same, following him down and watching him land in a field.

We landed at Douai and I reported two intact aircraft 3 and 7 miles away. They only found one. Go figure. Manfred got a 6 day leave for becoming an Ace and downing 5 aircraft.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 01:04 AM

MFair, congrats on making the papers.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 01:13 AM

May 16, 1917 06:02
Intercept over town factories at Vimmy.
Kette Zwei - 4 led by v. Tutschek. Kette Eins - 4 flying top cover.

Rain. These are not ideal conditions for spotting incoming bandits.



Otto's Kette intercepted a flight of 4 Pups over the target area. This was ideal - 4 vs 4 and this time everyone spread evenly, so no double teaming.



Otto's target was skilled and they both kept turning all the way to the deck where the Pup lost interest and started to run home.



Otto just waited for this to happen. Fighting on this side of the trenches has its advantages. He got on the Pup's tail and shot it down over NML.



On his way back Otto noticed a Pup parked on the ground and he decided this to be a perfect opportunity to practice strafing runs.



The second Pup made Otto's day a happy one, despite all this rain. Upon his return to Douai he found the rest of his Kette safe and sound on the ground.
Otto von Trabant - 2 kills
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 02:29 AM

Journal Entry: May 14, 1917
Epinoy

Well, it appears my comrades have a great deal of confidence in my flying and fighting ability, this morning's mission just proves it. We were ordered to fly a defensive patrol down around Cambrai and while we were on our way there we encountered a flight of four Sopwith Strutters flying just to the west of us and around 1500ft above us. Leutnant Schock gave the signal to attack and we began to climb. One of the Sopwiths immediately turned for home while the rest turned to engage us. Well wouldn't you know it, all six of my comrades just flew on past the three diving to attack and focused solely on the Tommy fleeing for home. So there I was having to fight three Sopwiths on my own, not a pleasant prospect. I twisted and turned and managed mostly to stay out of their line of fire. Eventually, they tired of the sport and two began to climb for home and the last one dove away for home. I quickly gave chase to the diving Sopwith and caught up to him in no time. I wasn't long until I had his engine smoking. As usual, he holed my fuel tank and I quickly ran out of fuel but I wasn't going to be denied. I held my machine in level flight for as long as I could and fired one more burst after which his plane bursts into flames. I turned and landed just past our lines.

Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 03:40 AM

Mission 6
16 May 1917
Defend Observation Balloon

An early morning start and the miserable weather only makes m headache feel worse. Not only that but I've been informed that my 2 claims have been rejected.

We climb up into the clouds and head for our friendly balloon.



After a while I notice a single machine off in the distance, signal and then dive to investigate. It's definitely an enemy but it's too far a way for me to catch up as it heads over enemy lines.

I climb back towards my Kette when again I notice more machines and head off to investigate. One of the machines leaves formation and comes at me. It's a Strutter.




We manoeuvre for a while but the cloud and rain make it nearly impossible to know which way is which! I manage to get off a short burst before we both disengage.

I land safely and so do the rest.
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 03:45 AM

Mission 7
17 May 1917
Patrol Front Lines

A much nicer day today.

We head off for the front lines and climb until we are above the cloud at 2500 meters.



We make our way along the front lines but don't see any air activity other than our own machines. Suddenly there's a loud bang from my engine. I'm losing revs and so leave formation to land at the nearest airfield; Gonnelieu.

I switch off the engine and try for a dead stick landing. At the last second I realise I'm coming in too fast and switch the engine on to come around again. I eventually get the crate on the ground but dig in a wing. I'm told it's going to take 2 days to repair.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 03:58 AM

wave


Wow guys, There is so many good stories and great pics. Keep em Flying
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 04:49 AM

Originally Posted By: carrick58
wave


Wow guys, There is so many good stories and great pics. Keep em Flying


And how! Fullofit, that second shot is great with the sun like a spotlight on the wings, your paint scheme always makes me think of Wonder bread for some reason!

Smosh, I just had to come around for a second landing attempt on one of the last missions for the same reason. Glad you 'got her down' safely!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 10:19 AM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

And how! Fullofit, that second shot is great with the sun like a spotlight on the wings, your paint scheme always makes me think of Wonder bread for some reason!


Rick, thanks for pointing it out. I knew it looked familiar and it was eating me that I couldn't put my finger on it. BTW it's pronounced Wunderbrot. rolleyes
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 12:27 PM

I caught up, yesterday - 4 Missions in a Row with the "new" D3early. I flew all sorts of Albs, recently... D1, D2, D5later, D3OAW, so I thought: "Hey, I can handle Albs, let's skip the Training and jump right into the Cockpit."
...reminds me of someone... there was a Mustang involved. biggrin
...and also reminds me of Sam's evil Twin: Taking off, stalling, getting shot, landing. Some Planes just refuse to do what you want.
Luckily, Hagen didn't get hit once...
or maybe, the Bullets just didn't penetrate his Knight's Armour runningdog 50cal
The AlbD3early differs a lot from the D2. To make it handle properly, I had to push it very hard...
The Problem: I've heard, the Wings of the D3early aren't exactly rock solid...
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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 12:39 PM

Well, to be fair, it probably handles better before you cover the whole thing in plate armor! rofl
She is a bit twitchy, quite like a Nupe, will stall very easily if you are not super light on the controls...
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 12:49 PM

Great stories Gents! Nietzsche, I did the same thing. Took off in my new DIII and instantly figured out I should have taken a few flights around the field first!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 01:43 PM

"Thy Stallion be too weak! It no longer ascends from the Ground, when clad in Iron!"

Here is the Video.
If you don't want to get Sea-Sick, skip to 11:11... this is, where Mission 10 begins...
Misson 7-9 is basically me stalling in all kinds of Ways...

Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 03:49 PM



* 12 May 1917 @ 07h02 Balloon defense east of Vimy, North of Oppy

We had 6 kn winds from the NW with Heavy cloud cover from 609 to 2400m.

Schock lead the flight with Tutschek, Billik, Dreschsler, myslef and Koppen accompanying. Eins flight provided protection composed of Jorke, Aly, Carstens, and Henkershafen. The flight was quiet and we did not encounter any enemy aircraft, but Jorke had to pull out of formation with some engine trouble and landed at Douai. The engine was totalled and had to be replaced.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 06:51 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12
Flanders


May 18, 1917

Mission 10.


Morning Parade: The Adj confirmed my Victory over the FE and stated I would be returning the White Tail Scout after the Patrol.

Patrol of the Lines: 10 a/c in 2 flights. No Contact. I Took the afternoon off to Celebrate getting on the Kill board.


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Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 08:55 PM

Carrick, congratulations!
Mudwasp, time to put in your transfer to a scout squadron.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/15/15 10:22 PM

May 17, 1917 05:05
Reconnaissance - escort 4 DFW C.V.'s from FA13 to front sector at FF887.
Schwarm Zwei - 5 planes led by Jorke. Schwarm Eins - 5 planes -direct assist.
Mission started with view of not so distant barrage of flak coming Otto's way signifying enemy planes on intercept course. It was for the first time he witnessed Schwarm Eins do something useful. They've adjusted their flight path towards the flak making sure Otto's flight can continue unmolested. This time Otto's Schwarm was able to make contact with the machines they were to escort.



They flew towards target area where they encountered heavy flak. It also started to rain over the front. While taking pictures over the target they spotted a large formation in the distance. Otto couldn't tell if they were friend or foe, but for once was glad the leader chose to ignore them. On the second pass over the target area they noticed one flight landing at a nearby airfield. They knew they were safe from them. Otto hoped there wouldn't be a third pass, but because of the bad weather boys in the DFW's decided to go for another one just to make sure that the entire mission is a success. Otto had enough Archie to last him for the entire month. Thankfully the third pass was a charm and they all were able to get back to base.



Even Schwarm Eins made it all back home in one piece. Beers are on the recon boys.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 12:20 AM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 12
4 June, 1917
Friendly Territory Patrol






Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 01:24 AM

Rick, Steinhoff took some major hits with those strutters. I saw the nice tight grouping on the engine compartment. Whew!!

Carrick congrats on the kill

Fullofit, congrats on the successful escort duty
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 02:03 AM

Thanks Robert, it helps when the enemy doesn't bother you. Looks like you too had a slow day at the "office".
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 02:32 AM

Mission 8
18 May 1917
Escort

We're scheduled for escort duties today.

It's a glorious morning as we take off and head for the front lines. After a few minutes I notice our flak ahead near one of our airfields. It appears that some two seaters are being attacked while trying to land. I signal to the flight and head towards the battle. As I get closer I realise that 5 of our machines have been shot down!



I find one enemy Nieuport in the vicinity and dive on to him. I manage to get quite close and start firing. I am concentrating so much that I don't realise another enemy has got behind me until bullets start shredding my machine. My machine goes into an involuntary spin. I manage to get control and start heading towards the nearest airfield. My rudder hardly works and the plane seems to want to roll to the left of its own accord. I notice another enemy coming towards me from behind. I have to turn into him but this only starts my machine rolling and side slipping downwards. I can't bring her back and there is only one outcome as I watch the earth coming up to meet me.



Question for the survey: Was I shot down or destroyed by terrain?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 03:14 AM

popcorn


Smosh thats heartbreaking , what a waste
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 03:20 AM

Ouch, I'd say destroyed by terrain. Down low and damaged with EA on your tail is a tough nut to crack. It has happened to us all at one point or another. Condolences salute
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 05:25 AM

And on my real birthday too frown
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 06:20 AM

My Condolences and hopes that the rest of your B-Day goes Better!

happy_bday
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 02:38 PM

Terrible, just terrible, and on your birthday too. as Mudwasp says, hope the rest of it is great.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 03:00 PM

Happy Birthday from me, too, Smosh! band wave

...and from Hagen, too: "Ye shall be avenged, knightly Compagnion!"
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 04:48 PM

happy_bday whoohoo thumbsup
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 07:28 PM

Journal Entry: May 16, 1917
Epinoy

Had an exciting day today, we were ordered to destroy the enemy balloon up near Loos, Vizefeldwebel Billik led the Scwarm. We proceeded to the balloon without seeing any EA and Flieger Ruprecht quickly dispatched the balloon. It wasn't until we were heading home that the excitement started. We were about halfway home when we spotted a flight of four Fees, Billik signaled the attack and the slaughter began. I quickly got on the tail of one and gave him a good burst after which he burst into flames. The observer had the courage to continue firing at me even as they began to plunge to earth on fire.



I then quickly got on the tail of another Fee and after a couple of bursts his engine stopped and then one more burst sent him plunging to earth.



The rest of the Schwarm destroyed the other two Fees. Today's success brings my total up to eight, the Hauptmann seemed pleased with my performance and I'm wondering if I'll see a promotion in the near future.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 07:32 PM

Journal Entry: May 17, 1917
Epinoy

Today was a total washout of a mission, we were ordered to fly a defensive patrol up near Loos. We didn't see another aeroplane as we were approaching our patrol sector, as we were patrolling, and as we were returning home. On the bright side it was a beautiful day for flying.

Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 08:44 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12


mission 11
May 19, 1917.


Morning Patrol: Spotted and attacked 5 RE 8,s Plus 3 DH 2,s as Escort. Everyone seemed to attack the Escort. I ended up as Wing-man to Lt. Tutschek as he flamed a DH-2. I had gotten one off him earlier in the scrap. The Jasta had 10 a/c up.


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Mid day Airfield Security Patrol. I was in a kette of 6 a/c supported by 3 machines high cover. What a fur ball both flights mixed it up with 3 N-23,s in a turn and burn brawl. One was an Ace and I got hits on him as he scissored on my six I led him among my kette and they swooped on his tail. From 6000 meters to the deck, we shot and followed him. At long last he cashed near our sister A.F. I landed waching the smoke rise from the crash site.


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Jasta 12 Rpt: Losses: 2 Damaged. Enemy: 2 DH-2,s Destroyed +1 forced down (seen to land POW) 2 N-23,s Destroyed.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 08:47 PM

It's gotta suck to be a flaming Fee pilot at this stage of the war.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 08:48 PM

Yep, it's almost criminal.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 08:51 PM

reading

Any 2 seat was cold meat at this stage of War.
Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 09:00 PM

Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 09:02 PM

May 1917? What suddenly made two-seaters less deadly?
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/16/15 11:57 PM

May 18, 1917 06:10
Intercept over Masny airfield.
Schwarm Zwei - 5 planes led by Jorke. Schwarm Eins - 4 planes flying top cover.
The mission was just ill timed. Otto could see specks of flak over the target area during their climb out but the enemy was at least 2000 m higher and would be long gone by the time both Schwarmen reached this altitude. Once they reached this altitude they saw 4 or 5 Nieups flying close to the deck. Jorke wasn't about to waste all this effort of climbing to this position to lose it again. They would wait for another prey.
As they waited circling the assigned airfield and getting bored all of a sudden all hell broke loose. Everyone started flying in different directions trying to avoid colliding with each other. Otto managed to avoid at least two of his flight mates veering right into his flightpath. He looked around for the enemy that started this mess, but couldn't find any. Everyone just started circling the closest airfield preparing to land. What was Otto supposed to do? He started descending along with the rest of them. It was half way down that he noticed an N23 swooping down on Billik's tail while in landing pattern. Otto didn't think twice as he was just above the two of them. He dove behind the insolent Brit and brought it down with ease as the Nieup was fixated on the man in front.






Billik didn't even notice what has just happened. While taxiing on the field Otto looked up to see Schwarm Eins flying high above wondering what happened to Zwei.
Otto von Trabant - 1 kill
Otto's wingman has transferred out.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 01:19 AM

Nice screenshots and report Fullofit.

Manfred Fuchs
Mission 12
We were sent to take down a ballon across the lines. After taking down the balloon, we climbed to form up, circling. I could see enemy planes landing all over the place! Round and round we went until I could not stand it. I dove in on a Pup making his approach. I made one pass and saw that I had knocked his engine out and coming around for another pass almost collided with my flight who had come to pick the bones. I made one more pass and he sat down in a field next to his airfield. I filed a claim but was told since he did not crash and he was next his field and that he would likely be up the next day, I really had not done anything special. Denied.

Mission 13.
Did someone say 13 was unlucky? We took off for an intercept mission over one of our fields to the southwest. Nearing the field, archie told us we were in for some fun. Schick started climbing and cut off their escape. As we closed for the kill, I noticed some other planes behind and above us which archie said were not ours. I climbed keeping a watchful eye behind. I made one pass from behind and below before diving off. Circling for another pass it seemed only one other of our flight were after the RE's. We both made a second pass but the English were ready and hit us with a volley of fire. I dove away again and noticed I was trailing smoke. I made one more pass and was able to bring the RE down in flames.



Looking around I could see some of my flight tangling with what must have been the escorts. As I turned to help my RPM's dropped to nothing. Lets look for a place to land I says! As luck would have it a field was a few miles away and I had plenty of altitude. That is until I noticed one of the English Nieuports was diving down on me! I nosed it over and headed for the dirt. Leveling out at what I thought was the right spot I have tracers shooting by my head. I wag back and forth as much as I dared and the Englishman came roaring over me. I made a perfect dead stick landing at the field and went straight away to clean my flight suit!

Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 01:33 AM

Thanks MFair, lucky 13 indeed. Your first picture looks like you're going 100 miles an hour. Wait a minute, you probably were. You know what I mean. runningdog
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 01:34 AM

Hee hee, nice MFair, Fullofit, carrick! Mission #10 is where I usually buy it, any time I make it past that point, I start to get real nervous! sicko
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 02:01 AM



* 13 May 1917 @ 06h01 intercept of incoming at Awoingt aerodrome

We had 6 kn winds from the NW with medium cumulus cloud cover from 609 to 3000m.

Rosenfeld lead the flight with Tutschek, Hochstetter, Billik and myself accompanying. Eins flight was sent to assist composed of Schock, Jorke and Carstens.

We formed up east of the field at 2800m and during that course, we were passed over by 4 RFC BE2c’s, and 4 Esc 66 sopwith strutter 1B1’s. Rosenfeld ignored them during our form up and they ignored us and flew on. As we approached Ewars aerodrome Rosenfeld dropped out with engine trouble. Tutschek took over the lead. As we approached Awoingt, I spotted 5 N23’s of Esc Laf on our port side slightly below us at about the same time as Tutscheck did and we went in on the attack. I singled out one N23 well away from his squad and made a pass on him but in the process gave up altitude advantage and almost paid for it. I was quickly triple teamed and took 11 hits to my left lower plane before I was able to extricate myself. I found one stray making a run for it and ran him down. I sent him down in smoke between Awoingt and Boistrancourt. I turned towards Boistrancourt and landed there safely as Tutschek, Hochstetter and Billik came in to land. Being here was a perfect opportunity to look up a close family acquaintance, Gontermann. His father and mine were in the same cavalry unit.

I reported in, put in a claim for one N23, asked to have the fitters look after my DIII and then went off to the mess to see if I could find Gontermann.

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This vid has a great view of Lou's Boistrancourt aerodrome!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 02:03 AM

Rick, in that case congrats on beating your record. I guess lucky 13 is the new milestone. Jeez, what's with me and miles today?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 02:08 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Rick, in that case congrats on beating your record. I guess lucky 13 is the new milestone. Jeez, what's with me and miles today?


Just like Robert Frost's poem "Stopping by woods on a snowy evening" in which he said "...."miles to go before I sleep"

Link to poem by Robert Frost
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 02:10 AM

Robert, good luck with that N23 confirmation and finding Gontermann.
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 04:54 AM

A beautiful, melancholic poem - thanks for sharing, Robert!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 12:37 PM



Mission 11 was almost relaxing:
Three old DH2s against 6 of us low over friendly Territory. I was a bit too lazy in the Beginning - totally forgot, that these DH2s still can fly relatively tight Curves, but over all it was more a laid back Cruise with occasional Gunfire.
Still have to cut the Video...

Mission 12:
Now I know, what Loftyc meant with Flights, led by Schock...
We had to defend a Balloon, so the first Thing we did, was slowly climbing right into the Stratosphere. If the Enemy did want to shoot the Balloon - no Problem - we were busy climbing...
I think, Schock stopped ascending by the Time we had Trouble breathing. Somewhere over America we could see a Couple of Dots, fighting other Dots... so Schock, being no Daredevil, decided not to take any foolish Risks and immediately started the Landing Procedure...

...still had not posted Pics of my D3-Skin, so here they are:



Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 01:37 PM

band


Your skin is Stunning ! Well done.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 01:57 PM

I like it thumbsup
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 02:14 PM

Folks, I just updated my last mission post to identify that the vid has a great view of Lou's Boistrancourt aerodrome. It's worth a watch for this alone.
If you don't have his Boistrancourt aerodrome mod, I recommend it heartily.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 02:41 PM

That vid has me thinking about another attempt at using the mod enabler, but I'm still concerned about breaking something.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 03:05 PM

Robert, I thought you had those Nieuports painted on your rear view mirror! Nice flying to get out of that one. Boistrancourt is absolutely stunning.

Nietzsche, love the new skin for your DIII. I could not help but start humming "purple haze, all in my brain."
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 03:07 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
That vid has me thinking about another attempt at using the mod enabler, but I'm still concerned about breaking something.


Mudwasp, PM me and I will walk you through the process and answer any concern you may have. The mod enabler itself will not compromise your WOFF installation. I have tried almost every JSGME mod resident on the WOFF official site and can say they are error free. You won't likely want them all. Some are very simplistic with few incursions on the WOFF infrastructure and some are complex. I will help you with all your questions. I firmly believe in JSGME mods but you must always read the "ReadMe" file that comes with them before enabling the mod in WOFF. JSGME allows for easy and complete removal of all mod files from the WOFF installation so there is no concern of any files being left behind to hamper the running of native WOFF.

Best Regards;
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 03:51 PM

Nietzsche, Hagen's Alb is immaculately modeled! beautifully matched up on all panels! thumbsup
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 03:56 PM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Robert, I thought you had those Nieuports painted on your rear view mirror! Nice flying to get out of that one. Boistrancourt is absolutely stunning.

Nietzsche, love the new skin for your DIII. I could not help but start humming "purple haze, all in my brain."


MFair, so it seemed to me as well. They had me beautifully teamed and there were a couple of times while I was avoiding the one on my six, that the other one was coming towards me and could have had at me but didn't take the proper angle as he passed. Fortunately they are AI and not quite up to the performance of the human mind. Still, 4 to 1 offers an interesting challenge.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 04:17 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12




May 20, 1917
Mission 12

morning flight: We were way up high this flight. My Gauge broke at 4000 meters. No contact ,but did get Brain Freeze from this Sitter.

The Jasta sent 10 albatross went up on the afternoon patrol. I was flying on the outside Vee when I spotted our High Cover going Toe to Toe with Spad VII a/c behind and heading for the deck. I peeled off to help. The fight was breaking up when I got there. I did manage to make two passes at a Spad with Red Stripes on the top wing. The 2nd pass was close range and 62 rds later the Spad Roller-coastered then spun in. We took losses that day.


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Jasta Rpt: Losses: 2 Albatross D-III fron Kette Enis + 1 pilot wounded. Claims: 2 Spads Destroyed+ 1 forced down ?
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 05:04 PM

Journal Entry: May 18, 1917
Epinoy

We had quite the sortie today, we were assigned a defensive patrol down around Bapaume. We had just settled in to begin our patrol when along comes a single Frenchman in a Nieuport 23 who had other ideas. He dove right into the midst of us and we scattered like a flock of chickens. It was five against one and that one was giving more than he was receiving. While we were trying to eliminate this pesky Frenchman, here came five more Frenchmen in their Strutters would also wanted to play. I forgot about the N23 and focused on the Strutters and it wasn't long until I was on the tail of a Strutter giving him what for. Before I knew it, his plane exploded and I'm flying through what was left of his wings. Fortunately, I suffered no damage to my machine, now my nerves are another story.



I quickly spotted another Strutter attempting to make an escape down low and I dove to follow. After a twisting turning low altitude fight he also augured into the ground. It happened so quickly I wasn't able to get a photograph of that victory. Afterwards, I started searching the sky for my comrades and I saw three specks twisting and turning in the distance. I flew on towards the specks and wouldn't you know it, it was that first Frenchman still fighting with two of my comrades. Right as I arrived Leutnant Roeth was able to finally down that incredibly brave Frenchman. The three of us headed home where I filed my two victories. That evening I was informed that both claims had been confirmed and not only that but I was also being promoted to a Gefreiter. The CO also has put me in for a Bavarian medal that to be quite honest I've never even heard of before, oh well, like my father always says, "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth".



--------------------------------------------
I've never seen this award before in WOFF, is it a rare medal?
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 05:06 PM

Thanks smile
If it is of general Interest, I could post in the Skins-Section, how to create such a Camo-Pattern form a Section of another Picture (it was a Fokker D7, if I remember correctly) and how to do a semi-transparent Overlay...

Boistrancourt is is absolutely fantastic. Not only is it looking great, it also has got a really loooooong Runway... without Fences ;-)
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 05:13 PM

Journal Entry: May 27, 1917
Epinoy

I really question the sanity of the Royal Flying Corps. How can a sane man order men to fly such antiquated aeroplanes as the Fee? Once again we met a flight of five Fees as we were returning from a defensive patrol up around Lille. I destroyed one for my eleventh victory and the rest of the Schwarm destroyed the remainder. It's almost criminal, the poor Fees don't even put up a fight. I can sleep at night because I'm doing my duty by protecting our troops from any information that these Fees might be gathering, but I really can't see how the British high command can sleep at night knowing that these men are doomed. Someday, there will be an accounting for their actions.

Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 08:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Hauksbee
May 1917? What suddenly made two-seaters less deadly?


I suspect it had to do with the single seaters' offensive capabilities increasing faster than the two seaters' defenses.
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 08:19 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche

Now I know, what Loftyc meant with Flights, led by Schock...



so, I'm a rotting corpse, and that idiot still has a flight?!? There is no justice in the German army...


(by "idiot" I'm referring to Schock, not Nietzsche!)
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 08:39 PM

Carrick, glad to see Imil is doing so well. This challenge has had a high level of survivors!

Banjoman, congrats on the award! Your pilot is also doing well.

Loftyc, I have had the same decision making experience with Schock on my flights too.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 08:56 PM

It will make everybody happy to know that Schock goes west I think around the 20th, I might be off a day or two.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
It will make everybody happy to know that Schock goes west I think around the 20th, I might be off a day or two.


Should I buy the celebratory cake now, or wait for your confirmation! biggrin I hope he doesn't have a subordinate of the same mind set waiting in the wings to take over!
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 10:04 PM

anyone note the nieuport squadron number(s) opposite Jasta 12? I'm no big fan of Nupes, but I might try to suffer with them in the hope that I'll actually come across Schock and have a go at bringing him down, but I can't seem to figure out which squad to enroll in.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 10:15 PM

Loftc, I see you really have it in for him!!

You have probably already come to this conclusion, but I will say it anyway just for posterity. I suspect that it doesn't matter which of the AI are leading the flight as the strategies we are seeing are inherently part of their characteristic play. So if I am correct, when Schock goes south, we will see more of the same from whom ever replaces him.

That said, go and have some fun anyway! biggrin

P.S. if look look as my recent reports you might be able to determine which squads we were facing as I generally try to state them when I know what they are.
In my last mission is was Escadrille Lafayette
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/17/15 11:44 PM

May 19, 1917 06:02
Balloon defense at FB697.
Schwarm Zwei - 7 planes led by von Tutschek. Schwarm Eins - 4 planes providing top cover.
Billik dropped out of formation with mechanical problems on the way to the balloon.



They reached designated area at the front and remained on station for 10 minutes before spotting 4 Strutters 2-seaters bearing down on them. Everyone split up and went after their mark. Otto teamed up with von Tutschek, but couldn't get on the Frenchman's tail.



Von Tutschek had no such problem. Otto noticed that another Alb was more in need of support as the Strutter was closing in on his tail. Otto disengaged and came to the rescue.



He shot the Sopwith pretty good but those birds are very tough and the gunner was lucky enough to hit Otto's tank. Otto had to make a dead stick landing near the train tracks, but kept one eye on the Strutter, which was also losing altitude and eventually crashed nearby. Otto could see smoke rising from the spot where the Strutter crashed.



Unfortunately, upon his return to base he learned the French pilot was able to land safely and destroy his machine by setting fire to it. There would be no claim for Otto. However Rosenfeld came over and thanked him for saving his skin. He received only light wounds, but it could have been far worse if Otto didn't arrive with help when he did.
Jorke and Becker - 1 kill each
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 12:46 AM

Manfred had a great if scary time on #14. Patrolling enemy lines I saw planes east, west, and in front of us. The ones in front turned out to be Nieup. 23's. I got on ones tail and had him smoking but his mate made me shear off. His mate and I had a nice dance and I finally sent him down when he literally exploded into pieces! Never saw one quite like that.



Noticing I was behind the lines, I climbed back east and saw some machines swirling over one of our fields. I dove in and drove one off Billiks tail. He soon crashed within 100 yards of our field and I sat down there and went out to see the wreckage. That night I was awarded the two victories, a new medal, and given 3 days leave.



Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 12:58 AM

Fullofit, carefull of those Strutters! But I guess you know that.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 12:59 AM

Fullofit, good to see a bit of luck with you.
MFair, very nice! 2 kills and a medal thumbsup
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 01:06 AM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 13
5 June, 1917
Bomber Escort





No video, nothing very exciting happened...
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 01:32 AM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
Thanks smile
If it is of general Interest, I could post in the Skins-Section, how to create such a Camo-Pattern form a Section of another Picture (it was a Fokker D7, if I remember correctly) and how to do a semi-transparent Overlay...

Boistrancourt is is absolutely fantastic. Not only is it looking great, it also has got a really loooooong Runway... without Fences ;-)


Ummm...YEAH! Anything to help people out. Once you post it, I will edit it into the first post!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 01:45 AM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Fullofit, carefull of those Strutters! But I guess you know that.


MFair, yup learned that one pretty quick. Congrats on the double victory.
Rick, We're not getting these milk runs often enough. It's like a mini-vacation.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 03:21 AM



14 May 1917 @ 06h02 Intercept incoming north of St. Quentin

We had 3 kn winds from the SW with clear skies and slight cirrus well above flying height. There was a haze on the horizon.

Tutsschek lead the flight with Schock, Rosenfeld, Jorke, Billik, Hochstetter and myself accompanying. We formed up east of the field at 2800m and then set a course for St. Quentin. As we passed Gonnelieu aerodrome Tutschek dropped out with what would prove to be engine trouble. Schock took the lead of the flight and we carried on. As we passed west of Mont St. Martin at 3600m Schock spotted enemy aircraft and turned away. I climbed high above my flight and glancing back I could see the enemy craft making for us. Schock seemed intent on trying to make it to Mont St. Martin to land but I strayed north of the field thinking he might be goint to try for Gonnelieu. Looking back I sawy him form up the kette in landing pattern over Mont St. Martin. The enemy craft were Nieuport 24 Bis. 5 of them from Esc 62 and they dove into our landing pattern. I turned back to Mont St. Martin now having altitude advantage and looked for opportunities to engage them, intent on driving them off. I made a pass on one that was on the six of Jorke, hitting him well enough to drive him off and send him home. I swung onto another N24 Bis and show him down over the field. I climbed out and looked around for more but there were none to be seen flying. In fact I circled to see how many of my flight made it down to the field and I could see none. I headed south, swung around and landed on the field of Mont St. Martin now littered with smoking wrecks.

I reported in to the RO to discover that Schock, Rosenfeld, Jorke, Billik and Hochstetter had all been driven down with craft destroyed, but miraculously all were fine and just shaken up. I was the only one to land safely. Tutscheck it seems was also fine but his craft only had minor engine problems needing repair. I put in a claim for one N24 Bis, which was immediately acknowledged as the evidence was on the edge of the field.

YouTube Video:
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 09:30 AM

Robert, it's amazing how much babysitting is required during landing. I suppose it wouldn't make much more difference in a straight fight either, but catching the flight in a landing pattern makes it that much easier. What makes the AI land like that with the mission not complete? I've encountered similar behavior. They simply land at the closest airfield available even before reaching the target waypoint. Is it the fear routine programmed in?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 12:31 PM

Sometimes they want to run and avoid combat. That makes sense when they are out numbered or have a lot of rookis in the flight. It doesn't make sense though when they out number the enemy and the flight is mostly composed of HA's.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 01:30 PM

Robert, My last mission was very similar and I saw something I had never seen. After my fight with the Nieups and alone heading back over the lines I could see a fight over our field. Getting closer, some more Nieups were attacking our craft clearly trying to land. One of my flight had already landed. After driving them off and coming in on my final approach, I saw the plane on the field burst into flame! It had been sitting there for a full five minutes! Everyone in the flight was shot down but as you say, "survived". Lucky dogs having nine lives.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 01:53 PM

@ Rick: Okay. I'll make some Gimp-Pics for that this Weekend.

@ Robert: Every HA has his own "Character", so they all act differently - especially when leading...
so, let's bash some more on Schock LOL
It is his Fault also, that my DH2-Kill got rejected (I named him a Witness) cuss2

Here is the Video:
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 04:37 PM

Argh! Just back from a week long trip and RL stuff has had me totally swamped! Managed to fit in an airfield defense mission last night. Survived. Should get some more flying in this weekend. Over 20 pages added to this thread since I last posted... so much to catch up on!

H
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 05:39 PM

dizzy

Really screwed up. I was flying the challenge and hit the wrong buttons while shooting pics. The screen went to outcome and stated that The pilot was wnd and sent to hospital for 15 days, Next Flight is in June. darkcloud


Dutch Imil
Jasta 12


Mission: 13

21 May 1917.


Intercept: 10 a/c in 2 Kettes went hunting for enemy a/c near Loos. 3 came in Highside starbosrd 2 more N-17 Bis came in on out tails Our High cover was no where to be seen. Peeled off to starboard and got shotup and wnd.


free pic

Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 05:50 PM

@ Carrick: -8 Pts sounds bad, but 15 Days "Holiday" means +4 Pts for 2 Weeks survived, plus 2 Days Advance for the completed Month, which help you completing the next Week for further 2 Pts...
...could have been worse...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 06:13 PM

Carrick58, that is why I downloaded and run "Voice attack". That being said, it is not fool proof either. sometimes extraneous noise causes my TAC to pop up. This happened in my last vid and I was so pre-occupied that I couldn't respond right away to shut if off. Seems that for every new positive, there is some negative hanging around just waiting to pop it's head up! With voice attack, I have to make sure I am in a quiet location and that the wifie doesn't come in to create some noise! Um I mean converse with me!! biggrin
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 06:22 PM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Robert, My last mission was very similar and I saw something I had never seen. After my fight with the Nieups and alone heading back over the lines I could see a fight over our field. Getting closer, some more Nieups were attacking our craft clearly trying to land. One of my flight had already landed. After driving them off and coming in on my final approach, I saw the plane on the field burst into flame! It had been sitting there for a full five minutes! Everyone in the flight was shot down but as you say, "survived". Lucky dogs having nine lives.


I had that happen as i flew cap over home awaiting stragglers who chased enemy bombers over the lines.

Also had a bomb crater on our airfield total my plane as i landed. my pilot was "shook-up". There were bombers and scouts over our airfield as we approached. My squadmates went into landing mode as our airfield was being cratered and they were being decimated by SPADs banghead
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 06:50 PM

It just seems to me that when an airplane is in the Landing Activity it should revert to Fighting when attacked. Has anyone posted a question about this over on the Technical thread?
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 06:53 PM

I'm jumping the gun here as I won't be able to post tomorrow, so here is tomorrows mission:



* 15 May 1917 @ 06h01 Defense of Houplin aerodrome

We had wind of 6 kn from the SSW and medium density of towering cumulus from 900 to 2700m

Lux lead the kette with Kaisenberg, Dreschler, myself, and Koppen . Eins kette was to provide protective cover lead by Tutschek , composed of Jorke, Rosenfeld, Schock, Hochstetter and Billik. This is the finest skilled kette I have seen put together. We formed up as usual east of the field at 2700m and then set out for Houplin climbing out to 3500m. We arrived over Houplin and circled for 25 minutes without encountering any enemy craft. Lux gave the washout signal and we returned to base having just completed a lovely relaxing outing.

YouTube Video:
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 06:56 PM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
It just seems to me that when an airplane is in the Landing Activity it should revert to Fighting when attacked. Has anyone posted a question about this over on the Technical thread?


I have watched my Jasta 12 squadron run from the enemy and begin landing pattern over the closest friendly field and they do turn and fight when they are attacked during landing but only after being shot at. Unfortunately they only attack long enough to drive the enemy off and then return to landing pattern, becoming vulnerable again. I think it would be great if they would continue in fighting mode and only return to landing when there has been no attack within so many minutes. Unfortunately I don't know how the devs have programmed this AI or if it even has the capability to be so flexible.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 07:12 PM

My observations are the same Robert
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 07:44 PM

What you say is true Robert, it is the same logic with the Going Home activity.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 11:44 PM

Ok, my dream of completing one of Rick's awesome challenges just ended in a pile of burned canvas and wood in the middle of no mans land. Mission 16 started out great. The 7 of us ran into 6 Nieuport 23's and I cut one out and sent him to the ground in fine fashion. Climbing back up I joined with Billik who was chasing another who wanted to go home. After getting into enemy territory I decided Billik was being foolish so I turned back. Flying along feeling pretty good about myself I noticed another aircraft behind me. It did not look like an Alb so around I go and meet a Strutter. Well, the fool does not stand a chance and as I circle with the throttle off watching him spin to the dirt I hear a sickening CRACK! I am sure you all know the rest.

I have just downloaded Shadowplay and have the whole thing on video but when I play it back it stutters and gets a little pixelated, if that's the right description. I am running at a real high resolution, 4096x2160. Does anyone know if that's the reason
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 11:46 PM

May 20, 1917 06:03
Patrol enemy front lines at FF2347.

Otto's new wingman arrived today - Vizefeldwebel Friedrich Wach, transferred fresh from flight school.

Scharm Zwei - 6 planes led by Rosenfeld. Schwarm Eins - 5 planes providing top cover.
Both flights reached their cruising altitude of 3260 m in record time. Someone was eager to get back on time for lunch. Halfway through to the target area both Schwarmen decided that they've gone far enough and proceeded to land at Avelin. One lonely SPAD came sniffing to check what the whole commotion was all about, but nobody paid him any attention. Otto pulled out of the pattern and gave chase but the SPAD had a head start and disappeared in the distance. As Otto was turning back to return to the airfield he began wondering whose side is Jasta 12 flying for? Otto proceeded to land with the rest. The new kid - Otto's wingman was the first one to land and what a landing it was! Right smack in the middle of the airfield and he just left it there with his engine stalled. Everyone had to dodge around him. And that's how he got his nickname "Das mittlere Kind". Usually middle children get least attention from their parents, but not this one!
So, the reason for all of this? Rosenfeld, who was leading this flight, whom Otto saved yesterday had a dizzy spell from his wounds and decided to wave off the mission instead of putting everyone's life in danger. They will probably have to fly this mission again tomorrow.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/18/15 11:52 PM

MFair, that sucks. I think someone who's not getting any action is going to win this challenge. Might as well just taxi around the airfield for a while, but where's the fun in that. What video card are you running to get reasonable frame rate at this resolution?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 12:52 AM

Damn, MFair, that's a shame! I will try to carry the torch for us both! I am seriously jealous of your resolution, though!

Everyone update the survey in the first post please, even if you have gone west and I will get a new chart up for this weekend, grim though it is becoming!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 12:58 AM

Damn, MFair! What a way to go.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 01:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
MFair, that sucks. I think someone who's not getting any action is going to win this challenge. Might as well just taxi around the airfield for a while, but where's the fun in that. What video card are you running to get reasonable frame rate at this resolution?


NVidia980 there is a "GTX" In there somewhere.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 01:09 AM

Thanks for the condolences Gents. Obviously I over stressed the DIII even though I did not think I was. Good luck to all who are still in the running. Remember, you can't die fast enough to come out on top!

Any advice on stuttering and Pixelated video. Will likely post in tech section next week.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 01:12 AM

Man I have to upgrade my ATi ... I mean AMD card.
Thanks for the info MFair.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 01:58 AM

Snapped a wing...that sucks! MFair
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 02:27 AM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 14
6 June, 1917
Airfield Defence



No excitement, no video!

Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 02:36 AM

Rick, those letters are quickly becoming NSFW and as it happens I'm not at work biggrin
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 10:55 AM

Rick, no video or pic! rofl
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 12:17 PM

MFair, I get these "Record-Stutters" with my Program "Afterburner" as soon as the Framerate drops below 35 fps. If that's the Reason for you Stutters, too, you can try to retard the Graphics-Settings a few Steps. One or two Pixels less on Resolution might help, also ;-)
Sorry to read about your early Ending :-(
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 01:31 PM






Enjoy! smile
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 01:44 PM

Nietzsche, The video played out quite choppy for me so I was wondering if it was the vid or maybe I have a bad internet connection today.
The vid content was good though. You stalked that guy for quite some time and then your mate comes in and steals the kill. Geez/
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 01:55 PM

I guess, it's the Connection (runs smooth, here)
Well, effectively it was a Co-Op-Kill from two Sides. My Wingman Bey (I have him since Mission 4) has true Superhero-Qualifications and sticks close most of the Time... and 4 Spandaus firing simultaneously deal some serious Damage grrr
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 02:18 PM

played fine for me, that strutter was hard to catch in it's climb to run away. Glad you have a good wingman!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 02:27 PM

Anybody turned on the Sound on the Video? It is a medieval Song called "Griselda", played with historical Instruments. Fits nicely, I think. It's giving the Video a kind of "Jousting-Atmosphere"...
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 02:33 PM

Video was fine here too! Nice bagpipery, Nietzsche!

Here's the results as I have them so far!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 02:43 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
Anybody turned on the Sound on the Video? It is a medieval Song called "Griselda", played with historical Instruments. Fits nicely, I think. It's giving the Video a kind of "Jousting-Atmosphere"...


I thought it was bagpipes and drums, I liked it whatever it was
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 02:44 PM

Six down, Eight to go.....or is it a 7-7 split now that MFair snapped a wing?
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 02:52 PM

May 21, 1917 06:01
Airfield defense at Avelin.
Schwarm Zwei - 7 planes led by Jorke. Schwarm Eins - 6 planes providing top cover.
What luck, Otto gets to defend the very same airfield they landed at yesterday. The lunch there must have been very good because the entire Jasta was involved.



Everyone and their grandmother was on the field for take off. Otto's wingman was assigned to Schwarm Eins - he'd better look after Otto's butt from up above. They arrived over the airfield without encountering any enemy planes. Halfway through the patrol Otto looked behind and up. He started counting: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Good - the Kid is still there.



The patrol run its course and they all followed Jorke back to base. Otto thought to himself that they should do this more often. Take everyone on patrol and demoralize their enemy with superior numbers.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 03:42 PM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 15
7 June, 1917
Escort Bombers





You know the drill. I actually went into my workshop settings to see if anything had changed...nope!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 04:52 PM

Rick, it looks like the entire British and French air force is on vacation. I'm also getting a series of missions without enemy activity.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 07:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
MFair, I get these "Record-Stutters" with my Program "Afterburner" as soon as the Framerate drops below 35 fps. If that's the Reason for you Stutters, too, you can try to retard the Graphics-Settings a few Steps. One or two Pixels less on Resolution might help, also ;-)
Sorry to read about your early Ending :-(


Nietzsche, thanks for the heads up but fps is not a problem on my rig. I get 55-60 in 1917 during a dog fight. I have no idea.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 08:56 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12


June 6 1917

Mission: 14


I came back from the hospital to find a shortage of machines. The Jasta has 6 flyable Albatros D-III,s. They must have had a rough time. Posted to a Patrol of our lines flown at max height, Thank goodness for Long Underwear, another sitter at high altitude. All 4 a/c back safe.


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Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 09:08 PM



* 21 May 1917 @ 06h02 Patrol of enemy lines NW of Lille

We had 3 kn winds from the NNW today, with scattered cumulus of medium density from 914 to 2100m.

Tutschek lead kette zwei composed of Hochstetter, Becker, Billik and myself. We formed up east of the field at 3200m and headed north towards lille and the lines. As we passed La Petrie aerodrome Tutschek turned to starboard signaling enemy craft sighted at 11 O’clock slightly below our altitude and coming our way. As we turned I spotted 4 enemy craft coming and being bracketed by flak. I stayed high, gaining altitude, expecting that Tutschek would try to take the flight down to land at La Petrie. In my estimation there was not enough time to make a landing and that we would be fair game once we formed up into a landing pattern. As soon as I saw my kette mates begin to circle I knew they were in trouble and I banked hard to go in to provide some protective cover. I made a pass on one SPAD VII from Esc 3 and no sooner made that pass giving up some altitude than I spotted two more quickly climbing up onto my tail. I pulled up and began jousting with them. During the melee I took 6 hits to my right upper wing, 3 to the lower right wing, 4 to the upper left wing and 4 to the lower left wing. Finally one of the SPADs broke away slightly wounded leaving me to work on the remaing one. I finally shot him down after a strenuous combat session. Circling around I found I was alone and headed to La Petrie where I found Hochstetter, Becker and Billik just landing. I joined them and we all headed into the RO together to report. I laid a claim for one SPAD VII which Becker immediately supported. None of the other had a claim so it seemed that the SPAD’s beat a hasty retreat from the scene, no doubt partly because of the continuous flak and gun fire from the aerodrome.

YouTube Video:
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 10:08 PM

Robert, do you think the enemy gets the sitting duck missions when they go to their briefing room?
"Fly to the enemy's airfield and wait for them to start landing. Dismissed!"
Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 10:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
Anybody turned on the Sound on the Video? It is a medieval Song called "Griselda", played with historical Instruments. Fits nicely, I think. It's giving the Video a kind of "Jousting-Atmosphere"...

How does Hagen get his kite off the ground with all that armor?
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/19/15 10:41 PM

May 10 1917 - Patrol Friendly Lines

Pallitz gets a DIII (yay), spends all night in the hangar painting it, and promptly smashes it up while escaping from a very nasty Tripehound. Fourteen more days in hospital...but still alive!

Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 01:25 AM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 16
8 June, 1917
Airfield Defence











Well, that was interesting. I don't think I have ever seen an aircraft "ditched" before, certainly not in a field! That might count something extra for my "hot landings" series, Mudwasp! I made sure to check my health before I exited the mission in case the game wanted to try any Tom-foolery with me. And the mortally wounded (HA)s are always good for a laugh! (I feel better!) *the Strutter was Esc 107
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 02:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Robert, do you think the enemy gets the sitting duck missions when they go to their briefing room?
"Fly to the enemy's airfield and wait for them to start landing. Dismissed!"


I wish I knew. For some reason the AI determined that we should not stay and fight. The odds seemed in our favour both in numbers and the fact that we had fuel, ammo, and were in our own territory. I understand them running to the airfield for the advantage of flak cover but they should have had the mind set to fight and not land. Of course this is just my analysis and doesn't necessarily reflect what the AI had in mind. Fortunately I was able to act as diversion. Most of my kette mates were HA so if you look at the big picture it matters little if they were shot down.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 02:43 AM

HarryH, That was a bummer for sure.

Rick, Steinhoff miraculously survived tremendous odds! Seems Albert Ward is not the only pilot with horse shoes in his pants!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 02:46 AM

Rick, how did you get promoted to HA status?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 03:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Rick, how did you get promoted to HA status?


I don't kno...wait, what?


Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins


Rick, Steinhoff miraculously survived tremendous odds! Seems Albert Ward is not the only pilot with horse shoes in his pants!

Well, that's what he tells all the ladies at least!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 06:33 AM

"Ditched" is well done beercheers

pilot
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 06:36 AM

Bet you get a medal...hope there are still aircraft in the reserve pool.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 02:40 PM



* 22 May 1917 @ 06h01 Patrol behind our lines to Villers-au-Terte and hence to Pronville

We had winds of 3kn from the West and clear skies with a few scattered cumulus.

Rosenfeld lead the kette with Tutschek, Billik, Becker Hochstetter and myself in tow. Kette Eins was led by Koppen with Jorke, Aly and Kaisenberg accompanying.
We were forming up just north east of Les Anciennes Tourbieres lake and at 5028m when we were jumped by 5 Tripes from RNAS 8. Rosenfeld tried initially for a run to Emerchicourt aerodrome but soon we had no choice but to engage. I took 6 hits to my right upper and lower plane before managing to shake off my pursuer. Those tripes could spin on a dime and climb like the devil. I managed with extreme difficulty to stay out of harms way and eventually after landing several bursts on one I was able to slow him down enough to stay on his six and put him down just south of Emerchicourt aerodrome. I looked around and saw no aircraft so headed to Emerchicourt to land and in so doing discovered that Becker and Billik had preceded me. Hochstetter and Tutschek had suffered light wounds and 2 days worth of damage repair to their machines. Rosenfeld went down south of the field with light wounds but his craft was completely destroyed.
Kaisenberg suffered light damage to his craft and a small wound.

I put in a claim with the RO. I was the only one to down an enemy aircraft. The rest of them hit and ran. It was only 07h15 and I was ready for a drink!

YouTube Video: Video file accidentally deleted in a senior's moment!
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 03:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Rick_Rawlings





I noticed lederhosen and I are missing; I did the survey for Sam Colerhedge, so he will be there in the end. He wasn't around long, and I don't expect he's missed at the mess table, but still...
You may recall that he went west (is it "east" for Germans?) after not receiving support from Lt Schock, who wanted to minimize the wear and tear on his plane by avoiding maneuvers like "turning," or "firing guns." I never cared for Schock;many Komerads are dying for the Fatherland daily, and he seems like a timid little mouse, which is why, while the rest of you are flying with him, keep an eye out for:




His first confirmed victory was Billik, so gosh, I'm surprised to read that he's still flying...!
Oddly, even though Getschock is British, I suspect that if he succeeds, he will be most helping the German cause, by restoring morale and the fighting spirit in Jasta 12.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 03:44 PM

Loftc, biggrin
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 04:07 PM

rofl attack Schock
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 04:28 PM

May 24, 1917.

Pallitz springs from his hospital bed and climbs into his cockpit, eager to get back at the Tripes and Nupes that infest the skies... but 15 min after takeoff, a system failure occurs. A few expletives later, he manages to put down safely alongside a railway track, missing all trees and fences in the vicinity (that makes a change). Oh, well, back at it again tomorrow.

H
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 06:26 PM

May 22, 1917 07:01
Patrol friendly front lines at FF844.
Schwarm Zwei - 6 planes led by von Tutschek. Schwarm Eins - 4 planes providing top cover.
This is very strange. Otto's flight arrived over the lines and for the second day in a row there was no opposition.



Have they won the war and nobody told them about it? Apart from Billik's mechanical failure all was quiet.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 07:03 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12




7 June 1917.

Mission: 15



Our Kette of 6 Albatros Scouts ran into a Flight of 5 RE 8,s Protected by 3 to 5 Sopwith Pups. E'LL of a scrap. I had 2 Pups drop on me. Took a few hits and made snap shots when I could. They soon gave up on me and turn for home. Cork screwing around, I spotted and engaged a single RE8. I left him a smoking mess and going down after his Tail gunner wnd me. RTB.


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Jasta Rpt: Losses 2 pilots wnd and 3 a/c damaged. Enemy losses: 2 Sopwith Pups+ 1 RE 8.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 07:45 PM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 17
9 June, 1917
Airfield Defence







Here's Schwarm Zwei going into their landing pattern:
Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 07:58 PM

Originally Posted By: carrick58
I spotted and engaged a single RE8. I left him a smoking mess and going down after his Tail gunner wnd me.

Beautiful Screenshot! (top one)
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 08:04 PM

Close call at 7 minute mark, Rick
Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 08:16 PM

And...a beautiful dogfight Rick. Especially the opening moves where the two squadrons discover each other and the battle is joined.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 08:29 PM

It is pretty awesome watching everybody do their thing. Once in a while I will run a QC all on autopilot and just F1 out and watch the beauty of it all...
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 08:34 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Close call at 7 minute mark, Rick


In mid maneuver I was thinking "This is a great way to rip a wing off"
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 10:04 PM

Carrick I love that first pick of the Alb with the RE8 going down in the background. That is a great composition.
Rick, Yes I like the vid too and agree that watching the interaction of the AI with your squad mates is very entertaining, as long as you keep your eyes peeled!!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/20/15 11:00 PM

That SPAD shot up like a surface to air missile.
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/20/15 11:39 PM

Steinhoff Lowenbrau
Mission 18
10 June, 1917
Bomber Escort









Thus the sun sets on the 4th son of Lowenbrau, and there was much dismay in the mess hall that night, for that was the end of the free beer. His wingmen poured a 40 out over the fields of France from 4000m the next day...all before going missing and being removed from the roster; presumed dead. Grieve not over much, for a young Steinhoff Jr. or Steinhoffina is on the way. Life goes on!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 12:04 AM

Steinhoff has gone east! eek2
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 12:45 AM

Rick, I have to ask, was Steinhoff drinking and flying? biggrin
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 12:47 AM



* 23 May 1917 @ 07h01 Intercept near Athies

We had winds of 3 kn from the west with clear skies and haze on the horizon.

Lux lead the kette zwei with Jorke, myself and Koppen in tow. Ally led kette eins as protective cover for us with Hochstetter, Laemmermann, and Drechsler accompanying.
We formed up as usual east of the field at 3200m. and headed for Oppy at which point we were to swing SW to Athies. As we approached Oppy we ran into 5 BE2c’s headed directly towards us and below by 300m or so. Lux swung away from them and I elected to climb high and observe the intentions of the BE2’s. When I saw they were intent to engage I took on one and drove him down smoking but not before taking a hit to my engine. I was forced to land on the cambrai – Arras road on our side of the lines. Upon return to base I discovered that Lux and Koppen had both been killed in combat and that Jorke who was with me had taken 2 days damage to his craft. I put in a claim for the BE2c which was granted based on confirmation by Jorke and ground units at one of our balloons.

YouTube Video:
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 01:08 AM

R.I.P. Steinhoff salute
beercheers
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 01:14 AM

- Horst never told you what happened to your father.
- He told me enough! He told me you killed him!
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 01:44 AM

Originally Posted By: Banjoman
Rick, I have to ask, was Steinhoff drinking and flying? biggrin

Wait, you have to ask?!? bottles
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 02:47 AM

jawdrop Mr Rawlings:

Steinhoff R.I.P ? well he was known to go in and out of the Beer Tent before missions.

Mr. Wiggins: Thanks. I have been inspired by all the Posts and Vids. explode
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 05:55 AM

Oh no Rick! eek2
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 12:46 PM

.

And another brave flieger joins the choir invisible. Nearly half of us now relaxing in the clouds as we watch this epic struggle come to its conclusion. Who will survive? Who will be the ultimate victor? Only the WOFF gods know.

Prost zu den tapferen Toten Flieger! cheers

.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 01:08 PM

@ Rick: Oh, not again... well, at least you came quite far in the Challenge smile
I'm half way through with the Skin-Tutorial (more Work than I thought...)

@MFair: 60fps? Wow! Congrats on your PC thumbsup Oh, and if you are thinking about trying an other Video-Programm AND your Gaming-PC has Internet-Connection: Better don't use Afterburner. It seems to be primarily a Spying-Tool, that also has a Recording-Option ;-)

@ Hauksbee: Hagen's Armor-Clad Jousting-Alb is equipped with a Magic-Rune powered Turbocharger and Holy-Grail-Water / Ethanol Injection... and besides, he is the Dragonslayer-Slayer. He can do that. biggrin

@LoftyC: Mega-LOL rofl
... I think, just to be sure, we should make clear for everyone, who stumbles over this Thread by Chance, that we are just making Fun Schock's Avatar in THIS GAME - not the real Person, apparently.

And now, Gentlemen:
I have here something special - a more than 7 Minutes long Duel between Hagen and one of the sickest HA's I have encountered, yet:
One Lucas Arden Smith in a Pup. He doesn't seem to have a dedicated Skin for his Craft - so, be careful, whenever you see a stock looking Pup coming out of Nowhere...
This Duel is even longer, if you count the Furball-Action in, that happened shortly before.

Enjoy!
Oh, and I apologize for the Music... but it just Screamed "Play Me!" all the time ;-)






Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 01:56 PM

Nietzsche, excellent flying Sir! Well done!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 02:36 PM



* 24 May 1917 @ 06h06 Intercept SE of Riencourt

We had winds of 3 kn from the west with a few scattered cumulus from 914 to 2400m.
I was informed I had been awarded the Militar Verdienstorden 4 Klasse mit Schwertern.

Jorke lead the kette with Aly, Laemmermann, Billik, Drechsler and myself in tow. Rosendberg lead kette eins with Tutschek, Becker, Hochstetter, and Kaisenberg. They were to provide protetive cover. We formed up at 2200m east of Les Anciennes Tourbieres lake and headed towards Oppy with intent to then veer south towards Riencourt. Upon approach of Les Anciennes we spotted three enemy craft in the distance heading towards their lines. The flight to Oppy was quiet and we turned towards Riencourt. On the approach to Riencourt we encountered 5 SPAD VII’s coming our way and slightly below us. Jorke turned sharply towards Riencourt and as usual I climbed high and continued to circle above the enemy craft all the while trying to get the attention of Rosenberg’s kette but they continued on past the SPADS, passing over them. I continued to circle and climb as the SPADS made an effort to get to me. I then noticed Kette eins returning and thinking they finally got the message, I turned to attack one of the two SPAD’s on my six and dove down onto his tail giving him several volleys of lead. I immediately climbed checking my six and as I suspected The second SPAD was hot in pursuit and hit me with a few rounds. I turned hard coming round onto him and as we made a head on pass I peppered him. I turned again this time onto his six and directly in front of me was a third SPAD coming at me slightly above. I peppered him as he passed and then turning to face him I picked up the second SPAD coming back and I gave him some more led. At this point the third SPAD was coming directly at me again and climbing slightly I sent more rounds into him. Turning hard again I came broadside to the second SPAD and sent more rounds at him as he dove down in a wide turn. I stayed high looking for that third SPAD and saw him in a wide turn coming round towards me but rather low. I sharply and dove down onto his six and let him have it. He quickly began a power climb pulling away from me but must have been unable to maintain the climb as I gradually caught up to him. He was slightly pulling away when I landed some long shots and he turned banking left and coming round towards me. A few more rounds hit him as he passed and then he went into a spin and crashed. I circled looking for the other SPADS and spotted some of our flak off in the near distance. I turned to that direction and saw a SPAD coming my way well below. He was just passing over Riencourt as I closed on him. I fired on him in a banking turn and he began an aggressive climb to pull away from me. I stayed with him peppering him all the way until I was about to stall and had to drop down. I kept my eyes on him and saw him head over into a turning dive of which he never recovered, crashing beside the aerodrome. I could see our craft circling Riencourt in landing pattern and I joined them. I reported in 2 claims. Billik confirmd my second one but nobody had seen the first. Becker had sustained a light wound with his craft destroyed upon landing, Kaisenberg was mortally wounded and died in his craft in the crash. I suspect that kette eins had relieved me os some of the SPADS, although I never saw them in action.

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Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 02:40 PM

Like the change in music as the first Pup bullet strikes the Albatros.
I see your pretty good at steering that Pup with long range shots
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 03:04 PM

@Robert: Great Flying, either. Very calm and steady. Looks like a kind of relaxed Superiority copter

@Wasp: It's from an old Game called "Twisted Metal" biggrin
I was quite suprised, that 8% of my Shots did hit something (I'm using "Less Accurate")... maybe, Barns, Trees and Telephone-Poles are Hit-Zones, also...
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 03:24 PM

Twisted Metal music had traffic Jam sorta thoughts swirling in my head. Less Accurate is fun for close dog fights like you had there. You must have been hitting him as he tried to climb/flee away as he turned back to fight.

Robert, that was cool how the SPAD plummet straight down in front of you after you filled him with lead
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
@Robert: Great Flying, either. Very calm and steady. Looks like a kind of relaxed Superiority copter

@Wasp: It's from an old Game called "Twisted Metal" biggrin
I was quite suprised, that 8% of my Shots did hit something (I'm using "Less Accurate")... maybe, Barns, Trees and Telephone-Poles are Hit-Zones, also...


Nietzsche, thanks for the cudos and yes with "less accurate" it does seem like the shots are going everywhere, which makes it more surprising when those long shots connect.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 03:45 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
Twisted Metal music had traffic Jam sorta thoughts swirling in my head. Less Accurate is fun for close dog fights like you had there. You must have been hitting him as he tried to climb/flee away as he turned back to fight.

Robert, that was cool how the SPAD plummet straight down in front of you after you filled him with lead


Yes, I actually thought he was diving to come up behind me and was surprised as he continued and spun in.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 04:12 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12


Morning Parade; 2nd Victory , an RE 8, is confirmed


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Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 04:17 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12


11 June 1917.

Mission : 16


Airfield Defense: 8 a/c flown at Max Height. No contact


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Posted By: HarryH

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 06:18 PM

May25th, 1917.

That's all she wrote for Flieger Pallitz. A recce mission that never got started, due to Kette Eins being jumped by a bunch of hooligan SE5s, right after takeoff. I hate it when that happens.

Have fun all, and good luck to those still in it!

H
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 11:02 PM

Yowzers, SE5s still in May, didn't only 56 have them then? That's some very bad luck!

carrick, congrats on the medal and confirmation!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 11:13 PM

Carrick, nice award sir thumbsup

HarryH, geez, seems we are dropping like flies in the later part of the challenge.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/21/15 11:24 PM

May 23, 1917 07:02
Patrol friendly front lines at FF8298.
Schwarm Zwei - 6 planes led by Jorke. Schwarm Eins - 4 planes flying top cover.
The answer to Otto's question he was asking himself yesterday came in the form of 2 flights of Nieuport 24 bis. Otto didn't think they've reached the front yet when they swooped on his Schwarm. He had his choice of targets but settled on helping Billik, who just picked one up on his tail.



Otto realized rather quickly that he had problems of his own, as another N24 latched on to his tail. He performed a split S to lose his pursuer, which worked but also put him at a lower altitude. These N24's are in a different league. Otto realized that all they need to do is climb to get away from his Albatros. On two occasions Nieups just increased their altitude and flew away, while Otto was trying simply to stay in the air without stalling. It looked like everyone else had the same problem. While following one of the "running away" Nieuports and taking occasional pot shots at him, Otto noticed another Frenchman returning on an intercept course. This one was a bit more cocky as he didn't try fly around but went straight for Otto. Otto forgot the first Niup already out of range and concentrated on the new adversary. When they came together the same story began anew: Nieuport above, Otto below trying not to stall.



Then something unexpected happened. The N24 started diving and it did not look like the French pilot had it under control. He levelled out just above ground, but it was too late. Otto took advantage of the situation and shot his engine to pieces.



With the propeller stopped the Nieuport glided down and settled close to German trenches. Otto made another pass and finished him off to make sure the Frenchman knew this was personal and then plotted course for Epinoy, where he found everyone else already landed.





He was the only one with a confirmed victory. This made it his 10th, meaning he'll get 3 days of well deserved leave. In other news "Das mittlere Kind" - his wingman was lightly wounded during the operation, but promised Otto that he'll be back to normal when Otto returns from his leave.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 02:14 AM

Journal Entry: May 30, 1917
Epinoy

We had an interesting mission this morning. We were ordered to defend one of our observation balloons up near Lens. As we were flying to that balloon, we flew over a friendly aerodrome that was being attacked by three SPAD VIIs. Well as you would expect, our flight leader signaled a washout and began to land at the aerodrome under attack. As I'm orbiting above my comrades wondering what is wrong with my Jasta, I noticed a flight of four Sopwith Pups escorting two Fees. Now I stopped watching my comrades and began to focus on my favorite prey, the Fees. As I was watching them, another Schwarm dove to attack the Pups and they quickly lost interest in the Fees. I couldn't have asked for a better situation because now I could sneak in and raid the hen house without the Pups being the wiser. I snuck in and quickly downed a Fee scoring my twelfth victory and then just as quickly snuck out and landed.

Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 02:30 AM

Journal Entry: May 31, 1917
Epinoy

As if yesterday mission wasn't exciting enough, today's was even better. This morning we were ordered to attack and destroy an enemy balloon located northeast of Loos. This was an important mission and the CO sent seven of us to do the job. We arrived at the enemy balloon without incident and since I was number seven in a Schwarm of seven I wasn't expecting to have any role in the destruction of the balloon. Well Leutnant Rosenfeld who was leading us, just continued to fly on as if he hadn't seen the balloon. Eventually, I just decided to attack the balloon on my own since the Schwarm hadn't made any movement to attack said balloon. I dove and I had the balloon blazing in no time. As I was pulling out of my dive, I began to look around for the Schwarm and that's when I noticed the flight of five French Nieuport 23s. Four Frenchman continued on, but one decided he intended to punish me for my brazen attack on the balloon. He was circling downwards and I was climbing upwards to meet him. Before we met, I finally saw that the Schwarm had returned and was engaging the Frenchman's friends. We had a spirited fight with me finally getting the upper hand, but not before my French foe put quite a few bullet holes into my machine. I must have wounded my foe because after my last burst he began to spiral downwards and eventually crashed in No Man's Land. So, the tally for the day was the balloon for my thirteenth and the Nieuport 23 for my fourteenth.

Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 12:11 PM



* 30 May 1917 @ 06h02 Patrol to Bohain aerodrome SW of Le Cateau

25 May 1917 I was promoted to Gefreiter and received a new Albatros DIII early and granted a 5 day leave.
Today we had winds of 3 kn from the WSW with clear skies.

Becker lead our kette with Billik Hochstetter and myself in tow. We formed up as usual just east of the field and when we reached altitude of 2700m, we turned south towards Bohain, climbing to our cruising altitude of 3500m. We had a quiet run to Bohain and as we started to turned back towards Mont St. Martin aerodrome, Hochstetter gave the signal he had engine problems and broke formation towards Fontaine-Uterte. We continued on towards Mont St. Martin and I noticed behind us a formation of 4 Albatros probably from Jasta 15 following us. Approaching Mont St. Martin I spotted 5 Nieuport 24 Bis of Esc 62 well below us circling the field. Becker and Billik lazily circled above slowly decending. I stayed high in hopes of drawing the attention of Jasta 15 but they continued on passing us. It became evident to me that Becker and Billik had every intent to land and not engage the 5 Nieuports so I drew the Nieuports of and they had every intent of coming after my DIII with odds of 5 to one. I kept trying to stay high and above them looking for opportunities and when I had one I attacked. I drove him down but lost some altitude and expecting the worst, looked back to see 4 angry N23 closing in. I climbed out and took some hits as I quickly turned to port swinging hard past them. We continued and endless joust until they got tired of playing and decided to leave. At this point I closed on the last N23 and gave him quite a few rounds before he finally climbed out and away from me. Those Bis models had more power and climb than I could maintain and I had to let him go. I circled back to land watching Becker and Billik still circling low over the field. I touched down first on the field and taxied in towards the hangar’s when I spotted a lone N23 coming low over the field intent on molesting us. I quickly throttled up and took off to chase him but by the time I got clear of the runway and up, he was a long way off and not coming back. I suspect he was my last quarry thinking he would have an easy kill. That was not to be the case today. I circled around again to land and pulled up between Becker and Billik, jumped out to have a look at my machine and noted I had taken 6 shots just forward of the cockpit on the port side. I also had taken 11 hits to my port wings. Billik and Becker patted me on the back and said they would stand me up for a few drinks this evening. I went to mess for some coffee and suddenly realized how jangled my nerves were as the cup shook in my hands.

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Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 12:36 PM

So close, Robert! Be careful!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 01:01 PM

Yeah, we almost made it clapping
Remember: Surviving the Challenge is not only a Success in itself - it's also worth more than 3 Kills!
I have to remind myself of that, too... yesterday was (again) one of these "tight" Situations...
Maybe I should cut a Video: -Best of almost End of Challenge- LOL
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 03:07 PM

Banjoman, what is up with them going into landing mode like that? That has gotta suck when you are in an area plentiful with friendly fields and enemy scouts show up.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 03:24 PM

IMO there is something wonkers with the AI, everybody has had their flights turn tail even when they had the obvious advantage. It has been my experience that when a flight gets into the Landing activity or the Going Home activity, they just don't want to leave. I did an experiment the other day with another pilot and I left the labels on in Activity mode and I watched a flight of DFWs circling to land while being attacked by some SPADs and they never left the Landing activity. In your N28 campaign put the labels on in Activity mode and watch, when you see planes go into Going Home, attack one of them and you will see that the plane will usually circle once and then immediately go back into Going Home. It just seems weird.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 03:29 PM

I agree Banjoman. It has happened to me rather too frequently as of late. Maybe we need the devs to look into this and confirm that everything is ok. Maybe it is just a rash of bad decisions all at once but it is worth looking at.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 03:38 PM

My guess is that the Jasta 12 AI have an inferiority complex.
Maybe the developers can send them to group therapy?
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 04:05 PM

I have suggested a "Rabbit-Mode" a while ago: The AI should spend considerably more Time looking backwards than other Views whenever the last Time, it has seen EA is less than one or two Minutes ago AND it doesn't want to fight... that might solve the Problem.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 05:36 PM

Nietzsche, that would probably help a great deal.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 09:11 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12

12 Jun 1917.

Mission: Interior Patrol.
# 17.

The mission was 3 for 3. The kette had 7 a/c mission ready so headed out on a Security Patrol and ran into N-23,s. The Scouts swilled around as if in a blender. I might have been throwing rocks couldnt put a bead on any of them. Observed 2 Albatros Scouts going down then a wingmate chased a N-23 as he argued in so did the Albatross.
I ended up on Jorke,s wing as he disposed of 2 machines. Maybe I should transfer to the Arty.


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Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 10:54 PM

June 3, 1917 07:03
When Otto returned form his 3 day leave he was informed that he has been promoted to Gefreiter and awarded Militar-Verdienstroden 4 Klasse Mit Schwertern. This prompted another 5 days of leave and once that was over he was informed that a whole month has passed since he joined Jasta 12 and he has been given 2 more days of leave as a reward. When he finally returned from his extended leave he felt as if nothing has changed and time stood still.
Patrol enemy front lines at FF334.
Schwarm Zwei - 5 planes led by Jorke. Schwarm Eins - 4 planes providing top cover.
The sky around the assigned patrol route was devoid of any enemy activity, which was perfect as far as Otto was concerned. Perfect way to ease in after extended vacation. There was a tense moment when a few specks showed up, but were not accompanied by a swarm of flak, so it was assumed as a friendly flight and ignored. No further activity for the reminder of the flight.


Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/22/15 11:01 PM

Hang in there, guys, you are almost there! If you are one of the dear departed like me, be sure to fill in the survey so I get a final accounting, even if you have already done so!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 02:24 AM



* 31 May 1917 @ 06h01 Patrol our lines from Cambrai to south of St. Quentin

Today we had winds of 2 kn from the SSW with scattered high billowing cumulus from 600 to 2500m.

Jorke led our kette with Aly, Billik, myself, and Roeth. Kette eins was to provide protective cover composed of Rosenfeld, Hochstetter, Becker, Roth, Rieckhoff and Drechsler. We formed up east of the field at 3200m and set out for our lines near Cambrai. Just west of Cambrai I spotted three enemy craft coming towards us and well above us by 300m. Jorke ignored them and I watched as the 3 N24’s passed over us to attack kette eins. We continued on our way gaining height to 4100m and glancing back occasionally I watched the conflict until they became lost in the distance. 3 against 6 of our best pilots so I assumed kette eins would do well. We followed the lines down to St. Quentin and just south of our balloon there, where we turned back north on the return trip. As we reached just north west of St. Quentin we encountered 4 RNAS-8 Triplanes ahead and above us. We jostled to starboard attempting to gain some height advantage. It was not to be. They pounced on us and one particularly nasty devil latched onto me. With much difficulty and a few holes in my craft to prove it, I managed to break free of him as he tired of the chase and broke for home. I was quickly on his tail and gave him volley after volley as we lost altitude. I took him down to within 100m of the ground. On my last pass my engine gave out. I suspect he had damaged my fuel lines earlier so I had to break off the chase but not before noticing him go in. I quickly had to set down on a convenient road in no mans land. I made it safely back to base. I put in a claim for the Tripe and Jorke stood up for me on that claim.

Sorry about the cut and paste video images, I had three pauses in the mission due to phone calls and spouse!!

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Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 02:39 AM

Journal Entry: June 4, 1917
Epinoy

For the first time I feel ashamed to be a pilot of Jasta 12. We were ordered to escort three DFWs down to St. Quentin for a photography mission, there were six of us, that's important. We met up with our charges without incident and arrived at our destination without incident. We had hardly begun when we spotted a flight of four SPADs and a flight of five Sopwith Strutters. Leutnant Rosenfeld signaled a washout and quickly turned for home while leaving the DFWs to their fate. I was shocked and disgusted that we would abandon our charges so quickly. I wanted to turn back, but what could I do against nine enemy aeroplanes, thankfully, Schwarm Eins dove to their rescue. Well, that convinced me I should turn back as well. Because of Schwarm Eins quick action we were able to save two of the three DFWs. In the melee that ensued I was able to drive down a Strutter giving me my fifteenth victory.

Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 02:46 AM

Journal Entry: June 8, 1917
Epinoy

Well, this Jasta never ceases to amaze me. Today we were assigned a balloon busting mission and since it was such an important objective we sent seven aeroplanes to ensure it's destruction. Once again, I was the seventh plane in the Schwarm so I decided to stay out of the way while the others dove to attack the balloon. We arrived at our targeted balloon without incident and the others began their attacks while I orbited above. I looked down expecting to see the balloon in flames and what did I see, the Schwarm was just milling around the balloon, I don't think anyone had even attacked it yet. With a sigh of disgust, I throttled back and began an attacking dive. I gave it a couple of bursts and it erupted in flames. I'm really beginning to wonder about this Jasta. The only bright spot about this morning's mission is it allowed me to gain my sixteenth victory.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 03:02 AM

They behave well in the summer and fall of 1918. Good times when the Fokker DVII OAW arrives!
Maybe this is the lower end of their learning curve?
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 03:31 AM

copter

WOFF ( OFF) is a different kind of game. expected the un expected. I never saw an albatros chase into the ground another aircraft and keep diving till it argued in. or maybe its just Jasta 12 ?
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 11:30 AM

Yesterday was one more of these tight Situations...
I hope you don't mind if I go full Schock on the last Mission - meaning, I'll spin a few Rounds and if anything bigger than a Sparrow appears in the Sky, I'll initiate an Emergency-Landing subito forte...

I forgot to mention, that this Arden Smith HA managed to kill my cool Wingman Adolph Bey before I turned his Pup into a big Mining Drill (the Twisted Metal Run). Nevertheless, he was able to shoot down a Pup himself (probably a HA also).
Yesterday I got a new Wingman... well, I tried to get this N24 off his Tail...
the Video should be ready tomorrow.

Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 11:48 AM

@Carrick:
I don't know if it's pure coincidence, but so far I have seen different, distinctive Fighting-Tactics in each Squad... I think, this is quite probable because in the End every Squad consists of a Group of individual AI-Pilots, and they all have their own "Character". Jasta 12 mainly uses concentrated Hits on very small EA-Groups (preferably not more than 2) - and then the whole Staffel focusses on ONE single Plane, totally ignoring the Rest of the EA (whenever possible).

We also have regular "Gunslinger-Squads", the Jasta 11 for Example...
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 12:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Nietzsche
@Carrick:
I don't know if it's pure coincidence, but so far I have seen different, distinctive Fighting-Tactics in each Squad... I think, this is quite probable because in the End every Squad consists of a Group of individual AI-Pilots, and they all have their own "Character". Jasta 12 mainly uses concentrated Hits on very small EA-Groups (preferably not more than 2) - and then the whole Staffel focusses on ONE single Plane, totally ignoring the Rest of the EA (whenever possible).

We also have regular "Gunslinger-Squads", the Jasta 11 for Example...


If what you say is true, it answers a whole slew of conditions I have experienced. In particular, the tendency to run from approaching enemy craft more than three in number.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 01:26 PM

Great stories folks. I think this one is going down to the wire between a few of you!
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 05:01 PM

Journal Entries: June 10, 11, and 12
Epinoy

June 10 - Well, the fleeing continues. Today the Schwarm fled from two French Nieuport 24 bis that chased us all the way to where the Schwarm was attempting to land. I engaged the Frenchmen and managed to down one of the N24s but the other Frenchman was able to shoot down and kill two of my comrades. When I landed I checked each surviving plane and found that no one except me had engaged the enemy. I feel like I'm living in a dreamworld. Here is a photo of my seventeenth victory.



June 11 - Today was a little better, at least we didn't run from the enemy. We engaged a flight of three Sopwith Strutters, I fought two while six of my comrades chased and destroyed the other, grrrr! I did managed to destroy one of the Strutters for my eighteenth kill and drove the other down where it landed near one of our aerodromes, I was not credited with that machine. Here is a photo of my eighteenth victory.



June 12 - Today's mission was a dud. We flew up to Lens, patrolled the front and returned without seeing another aeroplane. I thought this was a nice photo of Schwarm Eins patrolling next to us.



And with that, I've flown my last mission in Rick's wonderful Albatros Challenge. I'm probably as shocked as anyone that I survived and I'm sure a large part of my survival goes to just good ole fashion luck. Anyway, here is how I ended.

Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 05:29 PM

cheers Congrats on surviving to the end!
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 05:32 PM

Killaaaaaa biggrin
That Score seems to be unbeatable. Well, you really came for them! (Btw: "Ich komme für Sie" is correct "Rhinelandish". Normal Germans would say "Ich komme zu ihnen.", but "Ich komme für Sie" is a cooler way to say that)

Thy be praised, o stalwart Hero!
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 05:38 PM

Thanks, I was hoping my German friends here in the forum would appreciate that.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 05:55 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12

2 Victories confirmed
1 un-comfirmed.




Mission: 18

Date: 12 June


A Washout. Went up with 10 a/c for a Balloon Bust and the Oil Lines came Loose. I turn the motor off and made a dead stick landing at a sister airfield. The Maint people said no problem as the motor didnt freeze up all U do is replace hoses and fill the oil then RTB.
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 06:12 PM

wave

Nietzsche: The explanation of the AI does answers a lot of the questions Thanks.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 07:15 PM

Banjoman, congratulations on surviving the Challenge! Huzza! That is an impressive score to boot. I think ye may the winner.
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 07:40 PM

Banjoman, I was closely watching your performance as we were close in score until you pulled away in a gallop over the last 4 missions!
Congratulations and I agree, I suspect you have it all wrapped up! If that is so, and you win the challenge, don't forget to send me your mailing address by PM. There is a new copy of "Ace of the Black Cross by Ernst Udet" waiting here for the winner. It would be so appropriate if it went to Horst Grussendorf, the pilot of the "Black" bird. thumbsup
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 07:44 PM




* 1 Jun 1917 @ 14h20 Patrol to lines west of Fontaine-Uterte

My claim of the previous day was granted. Today we had light winds of 3 kn from the SW with scattered cumulus from 600 to 2600m.

Jorke led our kette with Rosenfeld, Billik, Becker and myself in tow. We formed up at 2500m and headed for the lines gaining altitude to 3300m. It was quiet on the front and no enemy craft were sighted on the outgoing and returning leg of the mission. Billik however, suffered some engine trouble and was forced to land, fortunately on our side of the lines, but his craft was destroyed. The rest of us landed safely at Epinoy, reported in and went to change out of our flight gear. Jorke tapped me on the shoulder and said “we need to celebrate your latest victory” and to meet him in the canteen after.

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Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 07:48 PM



* 2 Jun 1917 @ 06h29 Balloon defense NW of Marcoing.

We had wind of 3 kn from the NNW and the sky was clear.

Rosenfeld led our kette with Jorke, myself, and Roeth in tow. Eins kette was lead by Hochstetter and composed of Billik, Becker and Ritter von Roth, tsked to provide protection for our kette. We formed up east of the field at 2200m and then set out for our balloon. Jasta 33 made an appearance flying west as we flew SW over Les Anciennes Tourbieres lake. We arrived at our balloon and begun circling. Shortly 5 Pups from RNAS-3 showed up on the scene and began to molest kette eins, breaking up their formation. By that time kette zwei was already climbing to meet them and join the fray. The sky soon broke into a melee of aircraft, with one of the Pups taking a liking to me. We dance together for quite some time. Not being able to out turn the Pup, I had to give up altitude on several occasions in order to prevent him gaining position on my six. I did manage to get him in my sights a couple of times and spray him. Eventually he tried to dive away and I quickly gained position on his tail and kept firing at him. He was able to out turn me each time but I managed to regain position each time and finally I finished him off. By this time I was less than 100m off the ground and began to regain altitude. I spotted two more Pup high up and well out of range or any possibility to engage and it was clear they did not want to play. They soon disappeared from view. I saw my kette mates making for Brayelles so I did the same and I touched down first. Rosenfeld and Roeth landed next. Jorke was lightly wounded and his craft destroyed. I put in a claim for the Pup which was confirmed by Rosenfeld and the balloon crew who were enjoying the show.

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Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 07:54 PM

cheers You lived through all 23 missions!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/23/15 07:55 PM

Originally Posted By: MudWasp
cheers You lived through all 23 missions!


So far two have made it and more to go.... I hope!
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 12:56 AM

June 4, 1917 05:04
Schwarm Zwei - 6 planes led by Rosenfeld. Shwarm Eins - 6 planes as top cover.
Patrol friendly front lines at FF827.
This flight proved to be a carbon copy of yesterday's mission. No enemy in sight.



Otto began to wonder if he is still on leave and in that instant 4 specks appeared accompanied by flak.



This was an unfortunate flight of RE 8's deep into German territory without escort. Everyone jumped at the chance and since everyone had the newer version of D III except Otto, everyone else got to them first.



Otto joined the battle exactly at the moment when the battle was over.



All 4 RFC planes went down.



Otto Rosenfeld got 1, Friedrich 'Fritz' Ritter von Roth got 3.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 01:01 AM

June 5, 1917 05:03
Balloon defense at FB3185.
Schwarm Zwei - 6 planes led by Rosenfeld. Schwarm Eins - 3 planes providing top cover.
Otto doesn't remember anymore if they've even reached the balloon. All he remembers are 4 specks surrounded by flak flying towards them.



4 N24's took on 9 Albatrosen and were winning. Otto was shooting at anything silver that crossed his guns. He knew they will soon start climbing and heading for their lines. He followed one but was outdistanced. On his way back after giving up he encountered another N24 returning at lower altitude. That was Otto's chance. He took careful aim and let him have it. Some shots hit home. It did not slow him down however. Otto was about to give up his chase again when he noticed the enemy slowing down. He must have done more damage than he thought.



Soon the Nieuport started to smoke and Otto sent some more led his way.



At this time another straggler came to help the damaged countryman. Otto switched targets, but the Nieup just climbed away and left his friend to be finished off. Otto didn't need to do this. The N24's engine stopped and he crashed in NML. Otto returned to the nearest airfield with one confirmed kill.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 01:09 AM

June 6, 1917 07:01
Intercept mission over town factories at Vitry.
Schwarm Zwei - 4 pilots with Rosenfeld in lead. Schwarm Eins - 4 pilots providing top cover.
Tripes! Why did it have to be Tripes? 5 of them came full of RNAS aces.



Otto could see them smirk in their cockpits. They had altitude advantage, they had numerical advantage and they had maneuverability advantage. It didn't look good for Otto with 2 of them tangling with his obsolete Albatros.



He started taking hits. Where is Schwarm Eins!!!? Otto was able to put a few holes in one of them, more through shear luck than skill. This broke up the party and Otto was able to breathe again. It seamed enough to make them think twice about another attack and they headed for home. Otto followed, but had no chance of catching them. He turned back and noticed another Tommy returning at a lower altitude.



Otto was able to catch up with this one and send a few bursts into him.



Then everything started spinning. Otto realized he had a sticky rudder, which put him into a spin.



By the time he recovered the Tripe was just a speck heading for the front lines. Otto wasn't about to give up. He followed hoping he did enough damage to slow his opponent down to catch him. This wasn't happening. Otto estimated that the enemy must have crossed the front lines by now and he turned his Albatros around to return to his airfield. At the same time the enemy did the same thing and came after Otto. So, this wasn't over after all. Otto had height advantage, but the Tripe was trying to lure him over the lines and closer to the infantry guns. Otto wasn't falling for it. He sent a few more volleys and turned back as he noticed few more specks that could be here in a minute. It looked to Otto as if the enemy was floating lower and lower. Otto didn't stick around to make sure. He returned home, put in a claim and was happy to learn that his kill was confirmed by the observation balloon. Everyone in his flight had been lightly wounded, including his wingman, but only his wingman had to go to the hospital. Otto suspected the kid used this as an excuse to see nurse Gretchen again.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 01:17 AM

June 7, 1917 07:04
Patrol enemy front lines at FF1305.
Schwarm Zwei - 4 planes led by Max Hopf. Schwarm Eins - 6 planes to assist.
A lot of new faces in today's flight. Otto had this feeling that everything was off. For one he could keep up with the rest of the flight in his D III early. He looked around and suddenly understood. All members of Schwarm Zwei were flying Albatros D III early's. At this moment he realized 2 things. One - he's flying with greenhorns and two - he is as expendable as the rest of them. They continued with their mission despite noticing enemy's flight being hassled by flak. It was far enough to be deemed ignorable. The leader brought them on target right on time. Otto noticed that enemy flight again much closer now and saw Schwarm Eins moving to intercept. Otto smiled, he knew all the veterans were in that flight and for once it would be Eins taking care of business. The leader of Schwarm Zwei kept on course ignoring the battle about to occur. Otto looked over to the lead plane and saw the pilot wrapped in a map with his nose buried deep inside his cockpit monitoring the dials. Otto shook his head then looked at Eins engaging a flight of SPAD VII's. It didn't look good, trails of smoke started to appear here and there.



Otto saw that his leader was looking at the same thing but didn't budge and continued on course. Otto swore profusely. Schwarm Eins was in trouble they were in a position to help, but this moron is more concerned with sticking to the flight path than saving his friends' lives. To hell with orders. He peeled away and dove right in the middle of the furball.



Otto latched on the tail of one of the SPADs and started firing. The SPAD disengaged from his intended target and started for home.



Otto followed but soon lost him. Another SPAD flew by and another. Otto wasn't able to keep up with any of them. Frustrated, he decided to head home and face the music. Everyone was landing at Douai and he followed. While close to the airfield he was attacked by a lonely N23.



A turning fight followed with neither one of them able to get on the other's tail. Otto noticed 2 more N23's flying close but at a much higher altitude. Otto knew he had to do something before his adversary's friends noticed them. He faked a dive, which the Nieup followed. This gave Otto altitude advantage. He got on his tail and started shooting. He saw the right aileron fly away from his target's wing.



Otto ceased shooting and watched the N23 spiral down with no chance of recovery.



Otto kept low all the way to the field to avoid the rest of the enemy patrol. While landing he saw 3 DWF C.V.'s taking off.



He started yelling at them to stop the take off, but his voice was drowned by the roar of the engines as if on purpose. Don't they know there is a flight above just waiting for them? Otto stopped his machine near the rest of Schwarm Zwei. They were already out of their planes and congratulating each other a successful sortie. Otto looked at the departing bombers and the flak bursts high above them ... Poor bastards.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 01:20 AM

June 8, 1917 06:03
Patrol enemy front at FF465.
Schwarm Zwei - 6 machines led by Rosenfeld. There would be no Schwarm Eins helping for this mission.
Today is Otto's last mission before transferring out to the Italian front.
Otto and his wingman were the only ones flying D III early's getting left behind and practically getting separated from the rest of the squad, only catching up to the rest over the patrol area, where they spent 5 minutes circling out of planned 25 and returned home without seeing a single enemy machine. Otto couldn't be happier to leave this outfit of dysfunctional pilots, who would rather come early for lunch rather than help fellow pilot in need. He hoped to have more luck over the Alps.

Final tally - 13 victories: 5 N23's, 2 Strutter B1's, 2 Pups, 2 N24's, 1 N17 & 1 Triplane.

Historical Aces downed:
Arthur Gordon Jones-Williams
Patrick Gordon Taylor
Lucas Arden Smith
Etienne Thiriez
William "Bill" Thaw
Raymond "Ray" Collishaw
Henry G Reeves

Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 01:22 AM

That's it for me. Sorry for the long string of posts. I'll be away from my rig for a week and a half, so I had to cram it all in. Good luck to the rest, but I'm sure Banjoman has it in the bag. This was fun. When is the next challenge?
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 03:16 AM

Otto kicked azzz !
Love that wing damage pic on the Nupe thumbsup
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 09:14 AM

Thanks MW, I was surprised this could be done without the modified DM.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 12:26 PM

Fullofit, you are a true Survivor:

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Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 12:41 PM

Hagen von Tronje also made it.
As mentioned before, I fought my last fight Schock-Style: I saw some Dots on the Horizon hardly 5 Minutes after taking off... and instantly performed a relaxed Landing biggrin



...and here is the last Action-Movie of Flight 22:
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 09:04 PM

Dutch Imil
Jasta 12

Sep 24 1917





Balloon defense.


Dropped out of formation (5 A/c ) to escort down Horchstetter his motor had stopped. Stayed with him down to 700 meters over friendly A.F. then rejoined flight. Under heavy cloud had a shoot out with Strutter B-1's. I came up on mine and closed to 150 Meters and fired Rat-A Both machine guns jammed. I pull into a Chandell pounding on the breech to un jam the weapons as a Strutter swung on my tail Firing Rat a Tat Rat a Tat. Watching part of lower wing fall away. I fell into a Fatal Spin. As I augured in , I thought " its not the b ox, but the Man in it " along with, " No good Deed goes un-punished. "


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Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 11:07 PM

Damn, Another one bites the dust. Bad luck Carrick58
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 11:16 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Such a beautiful plane, too! Sorry, carrick!
Posted By: MFair

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 11:16 PM

Sorry to see that happen Carrick. So close!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/24/15 11:24 PM

Tuff way to go down....
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/25/15 12:00 AM

sigh
Posted By: Hauksbee

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/25/15 12:02 AM

Originally Posted By: MFair
Sorry to see that happen Carrick. So close!

At least your buddy got away.
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/25/15 01:31 PM

Grmpf... and the Finish-Line was almost in Sight...
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/25/15 05:38 PM

popcorn

Thanks guys Some day I will make it all the way through.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/27/15 06:11 PM

Who is still flying and has missions to finish up?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Anybody want to do a challenge? - 09/27/15 09:01 PM

Yeah, everyone tally up on the survey, I'm not home right now, but will take a look when I get back and see if we have a winner! (I do have my suspicions!)
Posted By: loftyc

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/27/15 11:18 PM

I'll tell you who's not flying, that's Jasta 12. Will Getschock has flown over a dozen missions, and found them only once. Lots of Jastas 2,5,6,4,10,22,29,and 36, but he only saw J23 on his very first try. So, officially Sgt. Getschock did not accomplish his objective, but not for a lack of trying.

Kudos to all those still alive, and as for those of us still looking to just get through one of these alive, well, maybe next time?
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 01:06 AM

Ok, tallying up the results, I see that banjoman is the winner!

winner kneeldown
He has graciously donated the book prize to the next winner as he already has a copy. He is, however, retaining all rights to Lou's custom paint job! So the next place winners are:
Fullofit
Robert Wiggins
gaw1
Nieztsche


Here's the final tally:

As you can see, we destroyed 106 planes at the loss of 11 of our own. that's pretty successful no matter how you slice it!
Collisions were the primary cause of death, just eking out enemy fire.

So it looks like the book is yours, Fullofit! Contact Robert with the particulars.

I would like to thank all participants, well-wishers, and those who did not wish us any particular harm. Thanks to Robert and Lou for donating prizes and to Lou again for the participation medal.

The next challenges is already decided, someone inspired it in this challenge, actually, so I think you will see it sooner rather than later... until that point, this is Rick Rawlings saying "Good night!"

"Good night!"
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 01:15 AM

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Congratulations Banjoman, well done Sir! You will have to contact me about the particulars of your custom livery.

And well done to Fullofit, Robert, and Nietzsche for surviving this most deadly challenge.

Looking forward to the next one Rick, thanks again for hosting these events, they are a hoot!

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Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 01:18 AM

cheers Banjoman
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 01:41 AM

I'm out of country until the 4th of October so have limited access. Congrats to all.
Posted By: Banjoman

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 02:02 AM

Thanks everybody, I've never won a challenge like this before. Fullofit, I think you will enjoy the book, I know I did. Udet was an interesting man.
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 02:18 AM

Are we hunting Jasta 12 in the next challenge? lol
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 05:28 AM

Well done to the winner/s and to all those that were able to participate. I'm really looking forward to the next one beercheers
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 07:49 AM

Congrats Banjoman! I am out of the country as well on vacation. Needed it after the challenge. Something doesn't add up. How can I be the next up if Robert has still 2 missions to fly and has 1 less victory than me. Surely he can match my tally. Should we wait for his last 2 missions before announcing the runner up? Once again, great challenge and hope to fly the EIII's in the next one. seehearspeak
Posted By: Smosh

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 09:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Something doesn't add up. How can I be the next up if Robert has still 2 missions to fly and has 1 less victory than me. Surely he can match my tally. Should we wait for his last 2 missions before announcing the runner up?


These challenges have a real fixed start and end date.
Posted By: MFair

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 10:24 AM

Congratulations Gents! And a big one to Banjoman. Thank you Robert and Lou for your generosity. You both are gentlemen of the highest caliber. Thanks again for the challenge Rick, it was a load of fun as always!
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 12:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Fullofit
Congrats Banjoman! I am out of the country as well on vacation. Needed it after the challenge. Something doesn't add up. How can I be the next up if Robert has still 2 missions to fly and has 1 less victory than me. Surely he can match my tally. Should we wait for his last 2 missions before announcing the runner up? Once again, great challenge and hope to fly the EIII's in the next one. seehearspeak


The report is in error. I did complete all 23 missions so don't be concerned.

Best Regards
Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 01:50 PM

"Hail thee mighty Hero, glorious Banjoman it is! Thou shalt rise yer Mead-Horns in praise to thee! Let Songs be sung about the great Deeds of this galant Knight!"

@Rick:
Cool! Thanks for the Jasta12-Order boing

@Fullofit:
Yeah! There is nothing more rewarding or/and frustrating than the E3!
Posted By: Olham

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 04:43 PM

Congrats on winning this challenge, banjoman!

Rick, thanks a lot for sending me the "Jasta 12 medal" eventhough I was flying out of competition!
I hope the next challenge will see more action from my end.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 04:44 PM

Robert,
Looks like we're both tied at 13 kills. I'll PM you my address and thank you again for donating this excellent prize.
Nietzsche,
I hope we'll get to fly these birds in the next challenge.
Posted By: maxpeck

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 06:32 PM

I have been following this thread since I got WOFF, very entertaining smile2
Congratulations Banjoman beercheers

Looking forward to seeing what the next challenge is
I have a feeling I'll want to get involved

You still do need cannon fodder in these challenges, right? winkngrin
Posted By: RAF_Louvert

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 06:40 PM

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Oh absolutely maxpeck, what's a war without cannon fodder? I take a fair amount of pride in having served as target practice for some of the finest virtual WWI aces found anywhere, and I'm quite sure that I've single-handedly increased the confirmed victories of the WOFF AI pilots across the board by a good ten percent.

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Posted By: maxpeck

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/28/15 06:43 PM

Originally Posted By: RAF_Louvert
and I'm quite sure that I've single-handedly increased the confirmed victories of the WOFF AI pilots across the board by a good ten percent


biggrin biggrin
Posted By: HarryH

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 09/29/15 02:04 AM

Belated congrats, Banjoman!

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Posted By: Nietzsche

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/02/15 12:42 PM

Before this Thread slowly dissapears from the 1st Page, I want to use this Opportunity to raise a big Applause for Rick, the one, who organizes these fantastic Challenges, that are so much Fun!

Thank you Rick thumbsup
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/02/15 01:13 PM

Well said Nietzsche and most appropriate!

Thanks Rick! Me thinks there might be another one being developed in the wings!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/02/15 02:24 PM

cheers to RICK
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/02/15 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By: Robert_Wiggins


Me thinks there might be another one being developed in the wings!



Thanks guys, yes another is one the way. As usual, most of the work is in the front-end production. As it is I hope to be able to do the announcement sometime within twoweeks
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/02/15 08:27 PM

Rick, you should join OBD.
You have the twoweeks down pat.
Posted By: Fullofit

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/08/15 11:13 PM

So, I come home from work today and what do I find in the mailbox?

This!


Robert's generous prize in this challenge. I'm thinking to myself that he must be crazy to part with this gem, but ... good crazy.
Robert, thank you again for such a great gift.
salute
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/09/15 12:38 AM

Sweetness!
Posted By: MudWasp

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/09/15 12:53 AM

thumbsup
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/09/15 01:05 AM

It's always great to so see a book go to someone who appreciates it!

Enjoy, it's a great read!
Posted By: Raine

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/09/15 01:31 AM

Very nice, Robert!
Posted By: Raine

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/09/15 01:32 AM

Well done, Banjoman!
Posted By: carrick58

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/09/15 03:24 AM

cheers to Mr. Rawlings
Posted By: Rick_Rawlings

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/09/15 04:54 AM

Thank you, carrick, and beercheers to the generosity of Robert! notworthy
Posted By: Robert_Wiggins

Re: Albatros Dos Challenge - 10/09/15 10:53 AM

No need to bow and scrape Rick, just belly up to the bar and have one for me biggrin
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