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About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols

Posted By: rostov

About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols - 04/21/13 09:35 AM

I can not find the full list about Soviet Army Organizational Symbols.

Just like this sytle


(It is a sample of German Army Organizational Symbols in WWII )

Can somebody show it on forum, thx in advance.
Posted By: Krabb

Re: About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols - 04/21/13 04:11 PM

Because the full list is a secret! hahaha Ok, just almost impossible to find, and as far as I know there is none in English. Otherwise I remember seeing it at Armchair General, but can't find the link.

These are in Russian:
http://army.armor.kiev.ua/hist/takznaki.shtml
http://army.armor.kiev.ua/hist/takznaki-2.shtml
Posted By: Dane49

Re: About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols - 04/21/13 04:29 PM

Wow!

Might as well be a secret,I've always found their symbols to be a real chore to understand.

The German isn't much better but at least there are plenty of references on line to aide in understanding them.

I'm glad we have the NATO option in the game.Their tactical symbols are much easier to define.
Posted By: TacError

Re: About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols - 04/21/13 06:16 PM

Here, I grabbed these for you from Lester Grau's "The Bear Went Over the Mountain":

(Grau also said that "Quite frankly, I find their graphics more "user friendly" than Western graphics, flexible and illustrative. The Russians can show the sequential development of an action by adding times or identifying lines to their graphics.")

Posted By: andrey12345

Re: About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols - 04/21/13 06:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Dane49
I'm glad we have the NATO option in the game.Their tactical symbols are much easier to define.

All strictly contrary, Soviet symbols the most clear and simple.
NATO symbols is redundant, and generally for combat at battalion level useless. Well, this is how to write numbers with Roman digits (NATO) instead of Arabic (USSR), kind of cool, but in real life is not necessary.
Posted By: Dane49

Re: About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols - 04/21/13 08:16 PM

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/army/docs/fm101-5-1/f545con.htm

This is the manual I usually refer to for NATO symbols.
Posted By: rostov

Re: About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols - 04/24/13 01:49 PM

How kind all of you.

But I speak only a little Russian.
Posted By: FlashBurn

Re: About Soviet Army Organizational Symbols - 04/24/13 03:04 PM

Nato Symbols are strange.......so are ww2 Germans.. But at lowest unit levels in US army.....where nato symbols get hard to find..... well alot of small unit stuff looks alot like red armys. Like guns, mgs, mortars, arty. Basiclly same crap. Which actually probably denotes an ealier system. AS the Us Army loved French crap around 1900........and so did the Czar types....I am betting a French influence. As tanks and armor are TOTALLY different......ya I am guessing late 19th / early 20th century dry and boring field manual that got traded around international circles.
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