Features [*]Previously missing Hokum, Comanche, Apache, Havoc cockpit textures (by Mapi) [*]Remapped and retextured (camo) military hardware (by Pesanur, Soczkien, dfang). [*]Added rotating wheels for player-controllable Apache-D, Hind, Havoc, Comanche (by dfang). [*]Added suspension for Apache (by dfang). [*]Explosion and smoke effects (by BANITA). [*]Rearranged 3d files and textures. [*]Added import of textures animation. [*]Speech can be redirected to headphones while all environment sound is played in speakers. [*]Added support of 24/32 bit compressed/uncompressed TGA textures. [*]Added export/import of smoke, meta smoke and explosion databases.
Bug fixes [*]Fixed constant ratio for FOV change. [*]Fixed "upgrade" process from players2.bin to playersv.bin. [*]With proper season always loading -W textures for winter, -D for desert (even for non-camo).
Some files were renames, some files were removed, please make a clean install. This is the reason why the major version has been changed.
Installation procedure
0. Move your current installed game somewhere for backup purposes.
If you have EEAH 1. install EEAH 2. run the game once This will unpack the graphics files. 3. download and install patch 1.1E 4. run the game once again
Well. We have a slight disagreement with Firebird In my opinion as long as we will not find the cause of bug,as long fire and smoke not they will look like they can and they should.Please treat all effects as infinite. Everything will look a lot better, and will be released a small update. ATM imo smoke and fire looks better without wind affected. Everyone can assess it, simply enter the file smokes.csv And change last 1 from x;x;x;x;x;1 to x;x;x;x;x;0 in these lines : 4;FIRE;SMOKE 34;FLAME;flame_smoke;
I hope this is the right place to report bugs for this version:
There seems to be an issue with the Apache compass size (I tried reinstalling twice...)
And the issue with the Hind:
Also, I don't mean to be rude, but how do you disable the new fire/smoke effects?
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1.14.0 is out - 10/30/1110:30 AM
Bib4Tuna yes its true, the same right panel looks very ugly, too big .
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1.14.0 is out - 10/30/1111:47 AM
Originally Posted By: Bib4Tuna
Also, I don't mean to be rude, but how do you disable the new fire/smoke effects?
Maybe write what you do not like. Firebird this version released now, for this reason that he left for a long time. We had to choose release is now infinite, or release a few months. Reporting here All comments which do not like,and I myself release revised versions quickly. I also am not happy with the fire and smoke.As long as we do not find bug in code will not it looked a lot better
- The "dust" from tanks and trucks... it's a bit much. The effect looks like the vehicle is damaged/on fire.
- The actual fire flames: it is nice that a gas tank explodes with a large bright tall flame. But having the same fire/smoke effect for hitting a SAM site or a transport truck (man, those canned beans can REALLY light up!! ) is just weird.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1.14.0 is out - 10/30/1104:59 PM
Bib4Tuna- sorry i love large dust from vehicles For you much smaller fire and dust from vehicles, tell me what do you think and what else to change. Soon will be a much better missile trail. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=H6NZ8ZAV
Hi, for some reason I have just discovered EECH. I purchased EEAH and EECH, and I am wondering is this 1.14.0 comprehensive?, or do I have to download previous versions.
Hope it worked smoothly for you. Since the instructions aren't on this second page of the thread, and not at the top of the post, I thought you might have missed them. And I'm not an expert on the EECH mods and don't want to say specifics about their mods! In any case, what do you think of it?
Hi guys, so once i have done the steps at the begining of this thread, should the GWUT version come up while the game is loading? Currently when my game loads it says GWUT: none. Am i missing something? I have done a free flight mission and about 2 minutes into the flight, the game CTD.
Cheers
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1.14.0 is out - 10/31/1111:43 AM
You have in main directory GWUT1140.CSV? Delete eech.ini and try. If not help enter to eech.ini and change this line [WUT] # for more information see http://www.eechcentral.com/wiki/index.php?title=WUT wut=GWUT1140.CSV # Weapons and Unit Tweaking file (n = filename)
I talked to Firebird and he ask me to relay the message that he is monitoring SimHQ but he can not reply currently as he's on a trip and will address all bugs in the current EECH release in a month...
I've finded that some textures in the AH-64A are not loaded.
*********************************************************************************************************************** Hi Pesanur, We haven't remodeled and textured the Apache-A yet...but,,,plan to do it sometime in the future..
Ran the new install on a clean PC with Windows 7 (32 bit) and it worked fine. Only hiccup was I hadn't remembered to install OpenAl (maybe one for the install list).
Done some free flights and don't see any major problems. Only thing I found was in the Viper. The background behind the climb/dive ball is showing the external texture (see attached).
So it's a big thumbs up from me so far - well done!
Ran the new install on a clean PC with Windows 7 (32 bit) and it worked fine. Only hiccup was I hadn't remembered to install OpenAl (maybe one for the install list).
Done some free flights and don't see any major problems. Only thing I found was in the Viper. The background behind the climb/dive ball is showing the external texture (see attached).
So it's a big thumbs up from me so far - well done!
*********************************************************************************************************************** That old ADI ball has been around for a long time with the default Apache cockpit that was used for several blue models and has never been fixed..(as far as I know)..
Good news is I'm making a new cockpit for the Viper and it will be either fixed or done away with...
] Features [*]Previously missing Hokum, Comanche, Apache, Havoc cockpit textures (by Mapi) [*]Remapped and retextured (camo) military hardware (by Pesanur, Soczkien, dfang). [*]Added rotating wheels for player-controllable Apache-D, Hind, Havoc, Comanche (by dfang). [*]Added suspension for Apache (by dfang). [*]Explosion and smoke effects (by BANITA). [*]Rearranged 3d files and textures. [*]Added import of textures animation. [*]Speech can be redirected to headphones while all environment sound is played in speakers. [*]Added support of 24/32 bit compressed/uncompressed TGA textures. [*]Added export/import of smoke, meta smoke and explosion databases.
So no Viper cockpit with this one? Pity. Nevertheles congrats on the release!
I have a slight issue but I'm not sure if it's a bug. When the sim loads and I am on the pad at the farp, I hove a hopping issue. Just the front of the helo pops up and back down consistently until T/O.
I have a slight issue but I'm not sure if it's a bug. When the sim loads and I am on the pad at the farp, I hove a hopping issue. Just the front of the helo pops up and back down consistently until T/O.
Besides that, everything else is great.
I have find the same problem, after load the game in the first flight all is OK, but when I'm take antother mision/flight the helo pops up and back, and sometines even overturn.
I have a slight issue but I'm not sure if it's a bug. When the sim loads and I am on the pad at the farp, I hove a hopping issue. Just the front of the helo pops up and back down consistently until T/O.
Besides that, everything else is great.
*********************************************************************************************************** Hello Kenetic, Send me a PM with your e-mail addy and I will send you a file that may fix the problem...
I have a slight issue but I'm not sure if it's a bug. When the sim loads and I am on the pad at the farp, I hove a hopping issue. Just the front of the helo pops up and back down consistently until T/O.
Besides that, everything else is great.
I have find the same problem, after load the game in the first flight all is OK, but when I'm take antother mision/flight the helo pops up and back, and sometines even overturn.
*********************************************************************************************************** Hello Pesanur, Send me a PM with your e-mail addy and I will send you a file that may fix the problem...
If you have to install OpenAI....can it be installed after you do everything, or does it have to be installed at specific point.
*********************************************************************************************************** Yes,,, you can install OpenAI after you do everything..
Hi everyone, is there an answer to the massive compass in the AH-64D cockpit?
Cheers
*********************************************************************************************************** When Firebird returns from his trip,,we will address massive compass..No reason to get lost with that one..LOL..
Hi guys, me again. I have shoot 1.6.4 with my eech, but unfortunately, unless i untick the run program as administrator box in compatibility mode it doesn't work. But when i untick the box, the GWUT file on loading screen goes back to GWUT: none. File version is still 1.14 but i was wondering, what am i missing out on. Yes there is a line pointing to the GWUT CSV in eech.exe and the CSV file is in the cohokum directory.
Hi guys, me again. I have shoot 1.6.4 with my eech, but unfortunately, unless i untick the run program as administrator box in compatibility mode it doesn't work. But when i untick the box, the GWUT file on loading screen goes back to GWUT: none. File version is still 1.14 but i was wondering, what am i missing out on. Yes there is a line pointing to the GWUT CSV in eech.exe and the CSV file is in the cohokum directory.
Cheers
Try with one of these options to solve the problem: Option 1 - Run the game in Windows XP SP3 compatibility mode. Option 2.- Install the game out of Program Files folder, for example in c:\games folder.
I have both EEACH and AAAH original CD's, and GOG.com version. I've installed 1.14 over GOG version that was already upgraded to 1.13. Installation of all packages went smoothly.
However, I have the same issue as Bib4Tuna, gray and non-transparent windshield on Mi-24:
I have both EEACH and AAAH original CD's, and GOG.com version. I've installed 1.14 over GOG version that was already upgraded to 1.13. Installation of all packages went smoothly.
However, I have the same issue as Bib4Tuna, gray and non-transparent windshield on Mi-24:
When sitting on the FARP and looking out the side windows the FARP itself seems to be slipping back and forth very slightly. I say it's the FARP moving as the trees in the area seem to be the same distance from the aircraft. Suddenly the aircraft rolls forward for about 6 to 10 feet and stops again. This even happens when I have the manual engine startup enabled.
Oh! and Yes, the wheelbrakes are ON.
TEST DETAILS: Running on Windows 7 (32 bit) ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP graphics card. Aircraft: Comanche. Maps: Puerto Rica, Norway, Alaska. Controls: Keyboard. Weather: Good Time: Midday Environment: Passive
A few observations about the 1.14.0 release tested with my install...
The opaque cockpit glass problem in the Hind seems to only be present if you choose desert & winter seasons in any map,,,or default seasons that use desert or winter..the glass is normal only in the summer map.I thought the mi24V_cockpit_glass_details.ees file would fix it,,but,,it will not.Firebird will have to get a hold of it..
The KA-52 problem where you enter the cockpit and the thing starts hauling a** backwards then jumps,flips,hops & flops,like a fish out of water can be solved with a tweak of the suspension txt..if anyone needs the one I tested and works let me know..
MLRS smoke trail bug (may apply to other weapons as well: rockets, etc.)
Reproduce: watch outgoing MLRS fire, observe the smoke trail as it follows the round. Result: the entire smoke trail pivots to follow the outgoing round, which looks very bizzare, resulting in a straight smoke trails that gradually pivot instead of a curved smoke trails. The smoke appears to be parented to the round and the entire trail pivots to follow the artillery round's trajectory. Expected: the smoke puffs to stay in position once emitted (the old artillery/weapon smoke trails did this correctly). You should see smooth parabolic trails of smoke rather than straight-but-pivoting ones.
The opaque cockpit glass problem in the Hind seems to only be present if you choose desert & winter seasons in any map,,,or default seasons that use desert or winter..the glass is normal only in the summer map.I thought the mi24V_cockpit_glass_details.ees file would fix it,,but,,it will not.Firebird will have to get a hold of it..
Opps, so the bug not appear in all seasons, I'm sorry, I'm thought that the mi-24v-cockpit.eeo file has been corrupted.
By the way, I've find a bug in the sound, after cycling for the new speech & effects output options speech fails, only an unwanted noise is played, and inclusive sometimes the games crash.
EDIT1: I solved the sound problem by editing the EECH.ini file and leaving empty the sound_device_speech= entry.
EDIT2: I'm sorry dfang, but your fix for the hind cockpit not works at all, when I change to external view and back to internal the bug reappears and stay here even I restart the game.
A few observations about the 1.14.0 release tested with my install...
The opaque cockpit glass problem in the Hind seems to only be present if you choose desert & winter seasons in any map,,,or default seasons that use desert or winter..the glass is normal only in the summer map.I thought the mi24V_cockpit_glass_details.ees file would fix it,,but,,it will not.Firebird will have to get a hold of it..
Ehm, I have to confirm that problem. I did not test it properly in previous attempt.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: 1.14.0 is out - 11/06/1101:33 PM
Olds, a known problem, the resulting too late I got a new code who allows you to change it.I know how they should look smoke trails, but very hard to achieve this effect in game, still working on trails Animation frequency.
I know there are many variation of MLRS ammunition, but how long does the rocket engine burn anyway? I know its only for a few second, so maybe if it is possible to remove the trail after certain time?
at first, realy great done. This is a very nice update, iam happy about this.
But iam a little bit confused. I hoped that the smoke on fire, the fire, and the missle smoke will looks like the images in the "Smoke Dust an Fire" Thread. but they dont.
i changed the wind effectivness like written some pages before, but no effect. And the missile smoke looks like this spinning "plus" singns like before.
are thees nice effects not included yet or did i do something wrong?
I have the bug where the chopper is violently bobbing up and down on the pad, at mission launch and that either eventually damages the rotor, or I am able to get the rotor up to speed and the helo in the air. Seems more prevalent with the Comanche. Hoping that this is patched in a hotfix soon. Otherwise am enjoying the new edition. Thanks again for the efforts madeto keep this sim mjoving forward.
Baddl, this shouldn't be happening. You need a complete install from scratch. Then make sure you install all the 1.14.0 files, there are 4 of them. (If you've already done that, then I have no idea what's wrong, but something is!).
I've been working on a fix to stop your Comanche from going on the war path.. I tweaked the suspension.txt files on the helos that I noticed had a jumping,hoping,flopping,rolling in the weeds problem...Just download these updated files and overwrite the existing ones in your C:\Razorworks\common\data\dyn folder.You can get em : HERE ,,Go to miscellaneous/dyn.rar ,,good luck..
Also I found a fix for opaque center cockpit glass in the Hind..Not sure why this is but it works,,when Firebird gets back he can research the problem...Go to your C:\Razorworks\cohokum\graphics\textures\cockpit\mi-24v-cockpit folder,,find the HINDCKPT_FRONT_WINDOW_REFLECTION.bmp and remove it..Happy flying..:))
Baddl, this shouldn't be happening. You need a complete install from scratch. Then make sure you install all the 1.14.0 files, there are 4 of them. (If you've already done that, then I have no idea what's wrong, but something is!).
-Olds
I did a complete new installation a few minutes ago on my own pc (the first run was at the pc of my girl)
i cant believe the difference... man this looks so unbelieveable great... everything is realy candy for my eyes
never was a hellfire and a burnung tank looking better. Maybe the flames a littel bit big but thats ok...
well for those who have never seen here is a hit on a Fully Armed Tank..
Would like to see a video of this ingame to compare?? I have it installed but need to make a Profile for my cougar and I am looking for my paper with My Key commands that I use..
I would also like to add, If possible could we get this Sim Updated to Dx9 or later and possibly get Triple Screen support like they did with BMS 4.32??
I really like this sim and enjoyed it for many years but without the DX9 and TripleScreen support it is hard to enjoy anymore.. I wish someone would release the SC for EE2..
Please I am not intending to dis any of the guys Current work I just would like to see this Awesome Sim be updated like BMS 4.32 was and give it some longer legs and perhaps a wider audience..
There has been discussion regarding updating EECH to DX9 in the past and the answer was that it would involve an almost full rewrite of the game. I can fully understand the modders reluctance to do this.
I personally think the guys have done an amazing job so far.
There has been discussion regarding updating EECH to DX9 in the past and the answer was that it would involve an almost full rewrite of the game. I can fully understand the modders reluctance to do this.
I personally think the guys have done an amazing job so far.
cheers,
Andy
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Yes I agree they have done an amazing Job. I will still probally play but since they have the Source Code ALL is Possible. Like I said it was Done with F4 I just thought the same could be Done to Our Beloved EECH.. Heck If I know How to Code I would do it myself, but I cannot So I rely on others more knowledgable then myself to do these things.. Some may look and say oh that has DX7 Graphics I am not gonna try that just based on that, I just thought if we had a more updated version more would come to the party..
I myself would rather Play EE2 with it's more modern engine..
I'm new here, but my hunch is we'd need many more code resources than we have to do something like that--BMS 4.32 was a major undertaking. However, if we can keep a critical mass of modders going, we can significantly improve the graphics: more realistic sprite FX (explosions, fires, smoke), better looking terrain (more trees, clutter). We can also probably do things that no sim does well: dynamic civilians, more realistic weapon performance and sensors, new campaigns.
I don't play any other chopper sims--they are somewhat prettier but they just don't have the depth or modding & improvement potential of EECH. I think it's the Falcon 4 of chopper sims: outdated graphics but arguably better gameplay. I personally don't go for sims no matter how detailed when they ship with 10 missions. It sucks the replayability right out for me. No one makes sims with the scope and ambition of Falcon or EECH anymore--a big reason why those two are still alive.
If we continue to make updates, I expect EECH to build on its mod following. It could certainly develop to the point that enough code resources materialize for a graphics update, but then I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that.
Nephilim, could you help us with the graphical updates by posting more quality weapon reference to this thread?
i would like to help anyhow maby some graphical stuff... a more metal look like skin for the choppers for eg. but i got no know how, how to do this in eech.
I appreciate you putting this package together for us...
It works great per your install instructions,,the only thing I had to do was import my old EECH.INI,game.cfg, & GWUT1130.csv files...
dfang
Hi. I guess u are talking about the NSIS bug. I cant install the 1.14.0 like clean install because the NSIS error. You talk about import these files from the 1.13 install?????????????
I appreciate you putting this package together for us...
It works great per your install instructions,,the only thing I had to do was import my old EECH.INI,game.cfg, & GWUT1130.csv files...
dfang
Hi. I guess u are talking about the NSIS bug. I cant install the 1.14.0 like clean install because the NSIS error. You talk about import these files from the 1.13 install?????????????
Hummm....you should be able to install the game if you followed instructions exactly,,also you need OpenAl installed or the game won't run correctly..I had to add the EECH.INI,game.cfg,and GWT1130 from a previous EECH install so my 1.14.0 would run..
If you need those files let me know and I'll send em to you..
I appreciate you putting this package together for us...
It works great per your install instructions,,the only thing I had to do was import my old EECH.INI,game.cfg, & GWUT1130.csv files...
dfang
Hi. I guess u are talking about the NSIS bug. I cant install the 1.14.0 like clean install because the NSIS error. You talk about import these files from the 1.13 install?????????????
Hummm....you should be able to install the game if you followed instructions exactly,,also you need OpenAl installed or the game won't run correctly..I had to add the EECH.INI,game.cfg,and GWT1130 from a previous EECH install so my 1.14.0 would run..
If you need those files let me know and I'll send em to you..
dfang
Well yesterday I tried again and redownloaded all the 1.14 files and I had not the NSIS again. But then I reinstall again and nothing, all like mikey mause. Then I try with the 1.13 and the same. I have OpenAL. I guess I need make more changes and maybe u can help me to do or send me the files u have and I import them into the game. The next is exactly what I do:
I guess I have OpenAL cuz is already install and is the dll in system32. My system is Win vista 32bit. All I made like Administrator and UAC and antyvirus off
1- I made clean Install the EEAH of GOG.com. 2- I launch the game and when start show is the 1.1E 3- I install EECH of GOG.com (launch the game and dont show the EEAH is installed) 4- I install the 1.13 package 5- I launch the game and all countinue like "mickey mause" with 2 menu option to choose my machine comanche and hocum like the original and the in the game I have the wrong Heli (I am not sure wich .exe is right to do)
What I have to do extra that all I do before???????
Hi guys, me again. I have shoot 1.6.4 with my eech, but unfortunately, unless i untick the run program as administrator box in compatibility mode it doesn't work. But when i untick the box, the GWUT file on loading screen goes back to GWUT: none. File version is still 1.14 but i was wondering, what am i missing out on. Yes there is a line pointing to the GWUT CSV in eech.exe and the CSV file is in the cohokum directory.
Cheers
Try with one of these options to solve the problem: Option 1 - Run the game in Windows XP SP3 compatibility mode. Option 2.- Install the game out of Program Files folder, for example in c:\games folder.
Good luck.
Thanks P, option 2 worked like a charm. Just waiting patiently for a fix for the oversized compass.
First, the question needs to be asked: are you running EECH in the background while running the patch. If not, then reboot the PC and try again (just in case the process was still running residually).
Second, you may have issues running from c:\program files, especially when it comes to mods and overwriting files. Vista and Win7 assign protected status to c:\program files (including x86); my advice is to uninstall from the current location and reinstall to something like c:\games\GOG
I guess, you're getting this because the program files-folder is rather heavily protected in win7. None of my sims or games are installed in there. Give another install-path a try.
edit: sure... again another one was faster than me.
Is the Cobra flyable though? It's in the helos to choose from in the sides selection screen but it just goes to the 'demo camera' and I can't fly anything.
Also, the compass in the Apache is looking weird, is that a bug?
Is the smoke and new terrain necessary for the installation to function, and will it reduce FPS on a laptop with integrated graphics?
I don't think so.
The new stuff is more detailed than the old one, so you might get a framerate hit. My 2007-ish laptop with a Mobile X1300 runs a modded EECH fine though. (Except the Mi-24 on highest cockpit detail settings.)
I used to have both these games, I hope I still do I miss them. Going to have to search the house, then check out all this new stuff!
Darn and blast, I seem to no longer have them Does that GoC site offer downloads (for £££ I am not asking about torrents ), as it is in the USA shipping would be costly.
And will Vista run it?
Only one place left in the house I can search for it and I have a terrible feeling I wont find them there either.
I've searched the 1.14 topics and haven't seen anyone else complaining of not having audio.
All my other EECH installs have gone fine, I've followed the install guide, fully patched up and have tried it with EEAH installed and without and have the same problem. The sound menu within EECH only gives me the option of software sound....is this likely to be the problem although it does detect my ASUS SOAR DX soundcard.
Normally I'd delete that post above but will leave it for amusement purposes.
I've been troubleshooting for the last 2 hours and eventually found the culprit.......
Oh yes, I am an ass.
I cleaned my keyboard earlier today by spraying it and going vigorously over it with a cloth, and must have hit the 'Mute' button lol All my audio goes through an amp, and I knew that the tuner/DVD player etc was pumping out audio and had came to the immediate conclusion that after reinstalling EECH it 'obviously' had audio problems.
I work in IT and I hate people with 'problems' like this that bother people on a daily basis