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#686477 - 08/10/01 06:11 PM Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I know a lot of new RB3D players are a bit intimidated to join in on the public servers because they are not sure of the rules or codes of conduct so I thought I would outline some of the basics here. Please note that some servers have specific rules and you should go to the squad website to get familiar with the rules befor playing. You may also ask any player in the server if you have a question.

1) JOIN THE SIDE WITH THE LEAST PLAYERS -- I know you may like to fly Allied but if the hun side has only 4 players and the Allies have 10 then join the huns to help even out the teams. Players come and go and teams fluctuate. You will get a chance to change soon but in the meantime you will learn something by flying a new plane.

2) NOT EVERY PLANE BOMBS -- Many servers only allow specific planes to bomb or rocket ground targets: for example only monos, or only N17 and Alby DII. Before you start bombing targets in your Spad or DR1 ask your team "What bombs here, please?"

3) DON'T ATTACK OR BOMB PLANES ON THE RUNWAY OR TRYING TO TAKE OFF -- It is very bad manners to attack someone who is trying to take off. To be fair, let them get airborne and WAIT UNTIL THEY MAKE THEIR FIRST TURN before attacking them. Even better is to ask them if they are ready just to be fair.

4) DON'T SHOOT WHILE TAKING OFF -- If you are the person taking off, get some air and then KEEP CLIMBING STRAIGHT WITHOUT SHOOTING until you have some altitude. When you are ready to fight you can turn around and come back. Don't fire from the runway please or someone will shoot back at you and then the whole game turns into a series of 3 second flights punctuated by shootdowns at the end of your runway. This is hardly sporting and you don't learn much if you don't get airborne.

5) NO ROCKETS AIR-TO-AIR PLEASE -- Some servers allow "anything goes" but most do not. Leave the rockets and bombs for the bombers. If you are out of ammo then RTB and get some more. If you have used it all up on your opponents then don't expect any mercy -- you should have aimed better and planned your escape route before you clicked empty. Also, rockets create smoke graphics which can spoil peoples frame rates and cause freezes.

6) IF YOU FLAME THEN "START NEW LIFE" -- Flame graphics degrade server performance to the point that other players get booted out. If your plane catches fire then please hit ESC and "Start New Life" as fast as you can to avoid getting your whole team kicked off the server while they are at a critical moment of offense or defense.

7) APOLOGIZE FOR EVERY COLLISION -- It takes two to crash and often factors like lag, stalls, damage or high speed make avoiding a collision impossible for you or your opponent. Sure he hit you from behind, but how do you know your plane didn't freeze for a second due to Nets or lag? Don't argue, just say "Salute! Sorry for collision" and carry on. If they have any class at all they will reply "No Problem. It takes two. Salute!"

8) SALUTE. SALUTE. SALUTE. -- if you are shot down then "Salute" your opponent. Even if you die due to a collision or something you feel was unfair just Salute! and carry on. Sure they had five guys on you, sure he hit you from behind, sure you were out of ammo, sure you were landing -- it's a game and it's not worth arguing or explaining -- start a new life and carry on.

9) DO NOT TURN ON SMOKE -- Skywriting smoke is fun to look at but the graphics they create cuase server lag and other players to get booted. Use MMP Solo Mode to play with smoke and skywriting if you want.

10) PRACTICE WHERE YOU WON'T DISRUPT A GAME IN PROGRESS -- Everyone needs bombing practice but please do it on an empty server. If you join a game in progress and start bombing targets for practice you are going to make a lot of people very angry -- especially if you bomb friendly dromes.

11) ASK FOR HELP IF YOU NEED IT -- Lots of players are members of squads and will be happy to help you if you ask for it. Just got your tail waxed by a great pilot? Ask him what you could improve. Got reprimanded by another player? Ask what you did wrong. Don't know if a Nieuport 24 is allowed to be a bomber? Ask your team.

12) FLY DON'T TALK -- The servers are for flying. If you have a disagreement with someone don't lower yourself by arguig with them. Pick another drome or another server and carry on. If you are spending all your time typing your pilot skills are not getting a workout. If someone seems intent on harassing you then maybe it's best to find another server to play on. Also keep in mind many players are from other parts of the world and may speak other languages so try not to take offense if someone seems a little bit blunt or uses a questionable choice of words.

13) PLEASE KEEP IT CLEAN SO EVERYONE CAN ENJOY THE GAME -- I have seen players as young as 5 years old on the public servers so please leave the swearing behind you when you fly. "Drat", "rats" and "curses you vile hun" are in the spirit of the honourable aviators of the Great War. F*** you A**hole! is not.

14) SET A GOOD EXAMPLE AND IGNORE BAD EXAMPLES -- Try to play fairly and have fun. If you see someone strafing planes on a runway or cursing then by all means suggest to them that this is unsportsmanlike behaviour. Set your own good example and don't be lowered to their level.

Keep in mind the spirit of honour and fairplay and you will have fun and make many friends. You may also get nvited to join a squad where you will learn far more than you could on your own. If you are vulgar, profane and spoil the fun by bombing when you should not, flying with smoke turned on, shooting at planes on the runway or cursing people out for collisions then you will find yourself all alone with only passworded servers listed (to keep YOU out) and no place to play.

Salute! And may you always fly with honour and enjoyment!

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#686478 - 08/10/01 09:12 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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RAF_Pepe LePeu, great list!! Thanks for posting it! The only thing I would add is about vultching and being forced down by an enemy plane.

The RB servers are set up so that the last person who shoots a crashing enemy plane will get credit for the kill, regardless of who actually delievered the killing blow. As a result, being a vulture or vultching (which is the practice of stealing other people's kills) is looked down upon in the extreme. If you vultch, while you may get a huge kill list, you'll alienate your fellow players and piss more than a few of them off.

Doing it by accident is one thing, but intentional vultching is not cool. Personally, it doesn't bother me too much, only because I keep a running record in my head of who I actually got, but it still irks me when i see it.

Also, if you're forced down by another plane, but manage to land in one piece, don't just take off again when the coast is clear. That's bad manners. Wait for your attacker to decide you fate. If he lets you live, hit esc+enter and respawn. If he decides to strafe you, you're an open target because you surrendered and should wait for him to kill you. Don't hit esc and then the exit button. Or go back to the gold room to prevent him from getting credit.

Overall, though, all the rules that have been created by the RB online communitee are in place so that everyone can have a good time. Some rules vary from server to server, depending on whose playing. So if you're unsure as to what the standing rules are, ask.

Hope this helps someone.

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#686479 - 08/11/01 05:56 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  
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Great List Stinky! I copied and saved it for future use. As somewhat of a "bomber puke" myself, I'd appreciate some clarification on one point though, s'il vous plait:

>>If you join a game in progress and start bombing targets for practice you are going to make a lot of people very angry>>

Most games are in-progress when I log-on, so I typically pick a team, find out when the target sides switch, then roll a bomber when I anticipate being over a target when it is designated by the server. Is there some problem with this practice? Nobody at PJ666 has said anything in chat when I do it.

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Heureux...no problem with that tactic. It is the usual practice and is universally accepted.

I would like to toss in one proviso for us 'bomber pukes'. In my opinion...if you're attacking an enemy aerodrome in a bomber, it should be acceptable to bomb/strafe enemy aircraft on the ground. It would be the height of silliness to be puttering along in an N17 and let an enemy DrI take off from the drome you're attacking. I do believe that is called suicide! Most of the 'fighter jocks' that I've talked with are in full agreement with this practice.

#686481 - 08/12/01 12:19 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I agree with Fruitbat totally,

If you're bombing in a server that specifies a plane for bombing (i.e. N17, D2) then you should be able to strafe planes on runway. However on severs that have no restrictions on bombers then I believe you shouldn't.

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#686482 - 08/12/01 08:42 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Except for true organized wars, I do not
think straffing should be allowed at
all because it leads to abuse.

However it is allowed on the PJ666 Server.
http://pj666.scificity.net/nav/mainpage/PJrules.html
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#686483 - 08/13/01 01:25 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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EXCELLENT ADDITION!

Well said DarkJedi! I agree with your addition of "vulching" and "forced landings" to the list. If someone legitimately forces me down and I am unable to take off I will hit B to blow myself up. Then I salute them and start a new life. I rarely look at kill scores and generally gauge my performance by whether or not the team as a whole wins and whether the opponent is chanting "kill Pepe" (if I've been having a rare hot streak!)

SOME CLARIFICATION ON BOMBING

Sorry if I was not clear Heureux. With respect to bombing, by all means join a game and hit the boxed targets but DON'T BOMB NON DESIGNATED OR FRIENDLY TARGETS on a server that is in use by others. If you roll from the last remaining Allied drome in a game and decide to practice bombing it while it in use you can expect to ruffle some feathers and take some lead. If you want to practice on friendly targets then GO FIND AN EMPTY SERVER. If you want to hit enemy targets then HIT THE BOXED TARGETS ONLY. Many targets hit "out of turn" will automatically repair if they become selected so you have wasted your time on them.

IMHO NO STRAFING ON RUNWAYS

With apologies to Fruitbat and Duck (both esteemed bombers I might add!) I must reiterate my view regarding strafing planes on the runway -- I JUST DON'T DO IT! It is bad manners and as Weasel correctly points out the PJ666 open server rules prohibit it! On the other servers if you strafe on the runway then you risk other pilots following your example and doing the same -- and they may not make the distinction between your single gun N17 bomber and their Sop Snipe. Pretty soon another guy arrives and before you know it everyone is strafing planes on the runway and YOU started it!

If someone rolls on a runway under my bomber then I let them -- and I attack them once they make that first turn. If it is a DR1 I have the option of outrunning it and if it is a D7 I can out turn it. If I am in a DII then those twin Spandaus will devastate the opponent's plane once he is airborne. The only time I will strafe on the runway is in a tournament game where the rules specifically call for it. While I sympathize with bomber jocks who see the enemy rolling I still recommend you BRAVELY RUN AWAY or GET SOME ALT and then kill them after that first turn. I once killed the PJ666 Beth drome in a DII and then (knowing I could not escape from the faster Snipes and Spads) landed on their runway to avoid being shot down (PJ666 rules worked in my favour here!) Naturally I was captured by the Allies after landing but not before I blew up my own plane to avoid letting it fall into enemy hands. Later I tunneled out of the Allied prison camp (skunks are good at this) and returned to fly another day!

Remember this regarding strafing on the runway: It's not YOU that's the problem but the other three guys who follow your example of strafing on the runway...

AND FINALLY ABOUT STRAFING IN SCOUTS

The PJ666 server DOES allow strafing of AA and MG nests by scouts (as of the time this was written) but this is unusual as many servers either proibit scouts from strafing or allow all planes to both strafe and bomb. I agree with Weasel on this one. IMHO I think it is best to leave strafing of ground targets to the bombers (unless all planes bomb) -- again the problem is not with YOU it's with the three guys that see you carefully taking out AA nests and figure it's OK to use their N28s and SE5As to gleefully bomb, rocket and strafe everything in sight.

I know many bombers out there may disagree with me and I respect these other opinions (just remember however that you shouldn't argue with skunks as they are very excitable...) -- if you are on an open server playing with a bunch of folks you know well then you can often set up ad hoc rules that everyone will abide by and have a good time. Eventually however some newbies will join in or some pilots who do not speak English and then your example will be more important than your words.

Anyone who still disagrees with me is welcome to shoot me down anytime you see me. Just don't flame me -- flaming skunk is something you REALLY don't want to smell.

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While I sympathize with bomber jocks who see the enemy rolling I still recommend you BRAVELY RUN AWAY or GET SOME ALT and then kill them after that first turn. I once killed the PJ666 Beth drome in a DII and then (knowing I could not escape from the faster Snipes and Spads) landed on their runway to avoid being shot down (PJ666 rules worked in my favour here!) Naturally I was captured by the Allies after landing but not before I blew up my own plane to avoid letting it fall into enemy hands. Later I tunneled out of the Allied prison camp (skunks are good at this) and returned to fly another day!

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If I see an enemy landing on one of my dromes he's going to get straifed, because he is likely waiting for an oppertunity to bomb the drome or maybe attack respawning pilots. I don't think the no straifing rule applies to planes landing on enemy dromes. They may even be planning to taxi into a target.

As for forced landings you should let your plane role to a stop and then immediatly hit restart to give your opponant the kill. However, dont get upset if that opponant bombs and straifs you to ensure the kill. Also dont vulch kills by shooting a plane that is landing which you didn't force down.

#686485 - 08/14/01 02:04 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Aw shucks, he called me "esteemed"

Hey FB does that mean I'm full of hot air

#686486 - 08/14/01 04:50 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Hey all,

I completely agree that strafing is a really touchy subject on non-organized servers. Amd I agree that strafing should be monitored carefully to protect against abuse.

But I also think that, depending on the situation at hand, it can be a valid form of combat. Honestly, though, it's VERY situational. And it also depends on who you're playing with too.

I don't think strafing by bombers over targets should be allowed. I know that it's not very historically accurate, but in order to prevent abuse, I can see why most open servers have resorted to this rule. I'd hate to respawn in an open server only to get toasted by a strafing bomber in the first 5 secs of my life. If I was fighting in an organized war, like Flanders In Flames or One Life To Live, it would be a completely different thing. That would be acceptable to me, since it's... well... a war. *grin*

And if you notice, even PJ666 has locked it's doors to only "approved" members and their guests. I just hope that this isn't the start of a trend where we could see the end of the quality open servers. Just a fear, since MMP is such a major part of the RB experience.

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If I see an enemy landing on one of my dromes he's going to get straifed, because he is likely waiting for an oppertunity to bomb the drome or maybe attack respawning pilots. I don't think the no straifing rule applies to planes landing on enemy dromes. They may even be planning to taxi into a target.

As for forced landings you should let your plane role to a stop and then immediatly hit restart to give your opponant the kill. However, dont get upset if that opponant bombs and straifs you to ensure the kill. Also dont vulch kills by shooting a plane that is landing which you didn't force down.


I must admit it was fun tweaking the Allies noses by blowing their drome then landing at it but I absolutely agree with you here RAC! If I am forced down (including at an enemy drome) I just blow up my plane and start a new life. If I didn't do this I would expect to get strafed to death by scouts (although not bombed or rocketed by them...)

#686488 - 08/14/01 04:43 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  
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And if you notice, even PJ666 has locked it's doors to only "approved" members and their guests. I just hope that this isn't the start of a trend where we could see the end of the quality open servers. Just a fear, since MMP is such a major part of the RB experience.

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Well, those approved members were straffing spawning aircraft on the airfield in the PJ666 server last night. Not me, but someone in a Spad VII was getting it good by a Dr1 and a DII taxiing down the runway.

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#686489 - 08/15/01 12:26 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I respectfully disagree with the putrid one in reference to strafing fighters on an aerodrome that I'm attacking but certainly agree with ol' Spilogale putorius (skunk for the nomeclaturally-challenged) on everything else. I will add that I follow server rules to the letter and don't strafe aircraft in servers like PJ666. It is their server and that entitles them to make the rules.

#686490 - 08/15/01 01:31 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I respectfully disagree with the putrid one in reference to strafing fighters on an aerodrome that I'm attacking but certainly agree with ol' Spilogale putorius (skunk for the nomeclaturally-challenged) on everything else.


S! Fruitbat!

We skunks prefer the term "fragrant" or "aromatic." Also I'm a Mephitis Mephitis (striped skunk) as opposed to one of those trailer trash "spotted skunks."

BTW Fruit you are completely wrong and the position you espouse is entirely without merit and unworthy of consideration

To resolve this disparity of opinions in a gentlemanly fashion I propose we have a flame war under the RBWL rules proposed by BA_Bishop. I will begin with the formal challenge in the approved format (ahem):

"You sir, are a Booger!"

I await your response with baited (naturally) breath and tongue firmly planted in cheek.

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#686491 - 08/15/01 04:42 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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S!
OH YEAH!
well...SNOTTYPANTS!

er....wait that wasn't to me. Um...nevermind

#686492 - 08/15/01 05:53 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Originally posted by RAC Shnoze Shmon:
S!
OH YEAH!
well...SNOTTYPANTS!

er....wait that wasn't to me. Um...nevermind


Sir, I must protest your departure from the official RBWL protocol established by BA_Bishop (S!) for flame wars. As RAC is a fine and honourable squad I can only assume it is your late entry to RBWL that has caused this deplorable breach of ettiquette. I will therefore reiterate this fine and honoured tradition for you (riginally by BA_Bishop):

"You sir, are a BOOGER!"
"Am not!"
"Are too!"
"Am not!"
"Are too!"
"Lalalala. I can't HEAR YOU!"
"BOOGER BOOGER BOOGER!"
"Lalalala. DID YOU SAY SOMETHING?"

As you can see this resolves any flame war in the manner of gentlemen without resorting to profanity.

So, should you wish to take issue with me further sir, I would request that you adhere to the accepted forms.

Salute RAC!

#686493 - 08/16/01 01:00 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Am NOT!!!!!

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Just an FYI, oh smelly one.

The "Booger Exchange" or BEx was created by BADirt Dart not BABishop.
It covers all flaming comments except of course the ultimate "I know you are, but what am I"

Simply type BEx and your done.

Just to clarify things I stated that a bomber should be able to strafe planes on runways, I am too target fixated, anyway to do such a thing. Plus I have real problems hitting anything that moves.

Quaaack!!

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#686495 - 08/16/01 06:20 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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S!

Am not! or Are too! hmmm....which one do I use?.....these thngs can get so complicated! And now theres that I know you are but what am I! bit....wheres that supposed to fit in?....and how does that result in the Bishop being taken by Dirt Dart.
Good Grief! you gotta be a chess master to qualify for participation in a flame war! No wonder I stay out of em.

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Quote:
Originally posted by BADuck:
The "Booger Exchange" or BEx was created by BADirt Dart not BABishop.
It covers all flaming comments except of course the ultimate "I know you are, but what am I"

Simply type BEx and your done.



S! Duck,

I stand corrected. My apologies for not giving credit to Dirt Dart. My first experience with this formal exchange was with Bishop's post on the RBWL forum, hence I wrongly attributed it to him. Thank you for this information, sir.

I was hoping the dreaded "I know you are but what am I?" flame would not come up in case new players were tempted to use it. This is pretty strong stuff and would recommend this be handled only be experienced players using an asbestos keyboard and Nomex gloves.

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Am NOT!!!!!


FruitBat, I see you have responded in the time honoured tradition! Salute to you and in the interests of brevity (skunks are naturally succinct):

"BEx!"

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#686498 - 08/17/01 12:36 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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BEx right back atcha, you miserable fur-bearing varmint (chuckling)

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Quote:
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BEx right back atcha, you miserable fur-bearing varmint (chuckling)


Hey! I resemble that remark!

(So you're a FURLESS bat I suppose? Or is FruitBat some sort of equipment for pounding homeruns using fresh produce?)


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#686500 - 08/18/01 03:08 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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What is it with you mammalian types, can't you just get along

oh yeah BEx

#686501 - 08/18/01 09:52 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I'm sorry to disagree with my esteemed
colleagues. In a team target game any plane on the ground in close proximenty to a bomber should be kept on the ground by any means. I'm a bomber and I hate it when I run into cap, my escorts job is to keep ALL enemy aircraft away from me. In any team trgt game it should be acceptable to do so only if there is a bomber present.

#686502 - 08/19/01 06:02 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Just a bit of clarification for my cranially challenged striped weasel-like compatriot. Though fruitbats are certainly mammalian and are in possession of a luxurious covering of smooth, silky fur...they are NOT considered to be 'fur-bearing' because their pelts are not used for making human clothing. Skunks, on the other hand, have frequently been used in the past for making various human accoutrements (primarily because skunks are more socially acceptable when they're dead and furless).

Nyah-nyahhhhhhh!!!

#686503 - 08/20/01 01:12 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I'm sorry to disagree with my esteemed
colleagues. In a team target game any plane on the ground in close proximenty to a bomber should be kept on the ground by any means.


In a private war where everyone is playing by clearly defined rules I agree (except no rockets and bombs for the scouts), however on a public server I still let them get airborne and make that first turn before I shoot them. I just stay on their six while they take off and let THEM decide when they want to get shot at. If they are smart they keep going until they are well clear of the drome and have both speed and altitude.

Of course the best strategy for a bomber is still stealth. If they never see you coming then they can't shoot at you. On the flip side if you attack a heavily defended target without your fighters suppressing it first then you are going to die. But your fighters should still let the enemy get airborne before killing them. If they are low and slow they are even easier to kill than if they are on the grass -- you can get longer gun passes on them before you overfly them.

I will agree that we disagree. To not strafe planes on the runway is the RAF way. Not everyone agrees. De gustibus nil disputandum.

(That means "bats taste awful")

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Nice try PeePee of Phew, but your Latin is a little rusty. "De gustibus nil disputandum" means something to the effect that "There is nothing to discuss about the taste". Bats of any sort are not mentioned in your quote.

(chuckling)

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S! Fruit!

I can see bats have the same natural apptitude for Latin as do skunks.

BTW US185_FruitBat is #10 overall in the RBWL standings. If I include your BA_FruitBat score as well you are #6. Not bad for a furry (but not fur-bearing) varmint!

Naturally I have instructed the squad to pay extra attention to you when we fly against US185.

"Noli illegitimi carborundum!" (May your credit card be declined at Christmas)

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#686506 - 08/22/01 11:08 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Pepe...y'know...I really enjoy this mirthful verbal sparring with you. Lest there be those who would read to much into any of this...I want it to be known here and now that I have the greatest respect for the odorous one and that all of this banter is in abolute jest. Of course...I do refuse to fly downwind of the rancid weasel for obvious reasons (LOL).

#686507 - 08/22/01 02:02 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I want it to be known here and now that I have the greatest respect for the odorous one ...


So you're not still mad at me for not inviting you to tha RAF/BA Bombing Skills Competition? You realize of course that I was just saving you the inevitable humiliation of being beaten by a skunk... (ducks quickly to avoid being headshot with rotten fruit)

P.S RAF still has opening for a batman... (completely fails to duck in time and goes looking for washcloth)

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#686508 - 08/23/01 01:14 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Sirs,

As to strafing aircraft on a targeted airfield, I must admit to having done it once. However, the situation was thus. One of our bombers was attacking the aerodrome at the time that an enemy suddenly spawned upon the field. No other enemy aircraft were around, and none had been during the whole time. I pointed my DVII in his direction and proceeded to hose him down. After he crashed, he had the temerity to spawn there again. I allowed him some airspace this time, but again proceeded to hose him down.
Meanwhile, our bomber continued his attack unmolested.

I think in this situation I was correct in immediately attacking the spawning aircraft.

Comments?

Don E. Brooke

#686509 - 08/23/01 04:05 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Pepe,

I personally think the shooting down of any pilot named after an animal (especially one as noble as,say...a Duck) should be illegal.
I think I'll contact the PETA people. Maybe they'll through red paint on the next guy who shots me down.

Quack!

#686510 - 08/23/01 06:45 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I think in this situation I was correct in immediately attacking the spawning aircraft.

Don E. Brooke


S! Don,

You have not stated what server you were on. If it was the PJ666 server then bad news: you broke the server operators rules. PJ666 does not allow strafing for aircraft on the runway.

If it was a different server I still maintain the sporting thing to do is to let the enemy roll and attack them AFTER THEY MAKE THEIR FIRST TURN. If the enemy rolled and turned back to get your bomber then he was fair game -- blast away. If he is low and slow and chooses to fight then he got what he deserved -- a set of turf dentures.

If however he was attempting to egress the airfield in a straight line then let him go or escort him away by riding on his high six. You can even suggest to him that he run away and you will let him go. This at least gives him a sporting chance and prevents you from being labelled a "vulcher."

Others may disagree with giving a spawning enemy a sporting chance. At some point however when you are a late entrant to a game where everything bombs, you will find yourself rolling from a runway where three DR1s are bombing. They will kill you over and over again as you try and take off and you will eventually leave the game in disgust.

Remember that those players saw someone strafing planes on the runway and are just following the example. They miss that tiny distinction "Its OK because there was a bomber in the area." Have it happen to you and you will feel differently.

I am a bomber and I am faced with this choice frequently -- someone spawns at the drome I am bombing -- do I bomb, fight or run? It has taught me to be stealthy and it has taught me to kill dromes fast. It has taught me to fly the N17 and DII better. It has also taught me to send the wingmen in FIRST to draw defenders away from the drome. If the wingmen simply toy with the defenders the defenders are out of position but do not get shot down and thus do not respawn. This leaves the drome clear for the bomber to get in and out safely and nobody gets shot down at the drome AT ALL.

Others will disagree with my viewpoint but they are Boogers and usually not worth listening to. They probably molest sheep and likely do not practice good oral hygiene. We will see who protests and then we will know for sure

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#686511 - 08/23/01 07:15 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I personally think the shooting down of any pilot named after an animal (especially one as noble as,say...a Duck) should be illegal.
I think I'll contact the PETA people. Maybe they'll through red paint on the next guy who shots me down.


S! Duck,

LMAO I recommend they throw a little Orange Sauce on you instead! (Whoohoo! Flamer!)



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#686512 - 08/23/01 07:55 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  
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>>If the wingmen simply toy with the defenders the defenders are out of positiond but do not get shot down and thus do not respawn. This leaves the drome clear for thedbomber to get in and out safely and nobody gets shot down at the drome AT ALL.>>

Great Stuff Peu! But what about the people who LOVE sheep?

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#686513 - 08/23/01 11:03 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Pepe,

Well, what does the opinion of a skunk count for anyway? And I think YOU were the bomber.

Don E. Brooke

#686514 - 08/24/01 02:30 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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But what about the people who LOVE sheep?
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Hmmm. I don't know the answer. Try asking the Huns about that.


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#686515 - 08/24/01 02:43 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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Well, what does the opinion of a skunk count for anyway?


LMAO! Mrs LePeu said the same thing to me when she asked for my feedback on the paint colour she picked for the living room.

Quote:
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And I think YOU were the bomber.


Yeah, skunks always get bomber duty because defenders never seem to want to get on their six to shoot them down. The propwash makes their eyes water or something.

Many thanks for the escort, sir! Hope to see you in the servers!


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#686516 - 08/25/01 12:04 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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I have just a couple of things I would like to add for all MMP Pilots

1) Please don't whine. Nothing worse then hearing someone cry "So and So is flying a hacked plane" Remember we are all connected to internet at different speeds with different Computers you may think your hitting an enemy but in reality he may not be in that spot.
2) Plase don't cry "He Rammed me" see above
3) Give new pilots the benfit of the doubt in regards to flaming. Dont jump all over them when they flame. Tell them nicely then shoot them down.
4) this one is just a personal request. This is a game, and as a gameit should be fun for everyone. Try not to camp on top of an enemy drome waiting for planes to make that first turn then fly down and shoot them down.
Nothing is more fustrating for a new player or a not so good player to get shot down without even a chance. I understand that sometimes battles drift and the possibility of a furball ending in close proximity to a drome is good. In "war" play then by all means fire away, that also applies if the drome is a target and its your bombing turn.
Again its only a request to make the game more enjoyable for everyone. Give the 75%ers a glimmer of hope.

Or you can do what you want to do, because after all it is a game.

Salute and Quack

#686517 - 09/03/01 01:09 AM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  
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Regarding Duck's post.

1. I long for the day I am good enough to be accused of hacking.

2. I am always proud to be accused of ramming. That infers a certain level of skill as a pilot, and casts doubts as to my incompetence.

3. I try to land at the Hun Beth in my NP17 whenever possible, typing in open chat as to my intention to get a beer. I find it disconcerting that my plane is strafed while I sample the Weisen each time.

4. If a drome is an active target and I'm bombing it, I will take a casual shot at you when you spawn if given the opportunity. I will then blow up your pub. You'll turn and shoot me down, but I WILL destroy the beer. This may make me a Booger, but that's what I do.


The opinions of this poster are largely based on facts and portray a possible version of the actual events.

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#686518 - 09/03/01 10:53 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  
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Those Narky Huns DO have good beer, don't they? I like to land and steal a case whenever my coucou still has the lift left in her wings to get us en l'air....S!
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...landing on our dromes to get some beer, huh?

This means nothing. Look what I regulary do to get a single cigarette (Gaulloises or Lucky Strike, I don't care):



Brit Officer: "You know that smokin' -habit is a bit dangerous to your health?"

Sturmbock: "...Ja, ja, I know zhat. Himmel, now give mir ein light, verdammtes tommy, will you, ja???


(Newbies: You will only find this kind of heroism in German squads)

Lone Wulffe_Sturmbock




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Just resurecting another old thread for the benefit of the newer players.

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#686521 - 09/18/02 05:36 PM Re: Basics of Server Etiquette for New Players  

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