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#686366 - 09/26/01 12:14 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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Salute King Rat !!!
Many pilots do not have glide capable cards and have been having a ball for several years. If you cannot obtain the Voodoo card, don't fret, grab a copy of RB and "Wheels Up !!!!"
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#686367 - 09/26/01 05:56 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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King Rat...Wasn't there a great WW2 Jap Prison Camp novel of that name by James Clavell?

BTW..Weasels are NOT vermin, nor are they rodents...but they ARE sneaky lil' buggers.
Au revoir en l'air...>S!
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Au revoir en l'air...S!
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#686368 - 09/26/01 11:44 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  

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Well I have seen the Armistice once, but I enlisted on november 1st 1918, just to watch the movie.

My best REAL attempt was Johann Von Bunsenbrenner, who enlisted in the spring of 1917 and lasted six months, scoring 23 kills and dying dramatically seconds after his 23rd kill, a balloon, hit mortally by a Nieuport. In between he had been wounded two times and spent two months as a POW before escaping.

I play with realism at 108% or so, the AI levels at the default value. I did crank up the bullet mass a bit, to 500. Any one else do that?

I have now started a new attempt in the RFC, flying SE5s. So far I have lasted a month, and scored 6 kills and an MC.

Those Camels are a real bitch by the way. I can't get one of the ground with torque effect on, and I have flown some horrible FM's like the Spitfire in BoB and the P51 in Mig Alley. Is there a trick or does the FM just suck?

#686369 - 09/26/01 04:59 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  

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Don't forget in your pursuit of a realistic campaign that there are no real aces who flew from 1916 to the armstice. So if you cant do it I'd say thats proof of the realism.

#686370 - 09/26/01 05:23 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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I take it from the context that Wheels Up is a Glide API wrapper. Perhaps over DirectX or perhaps just a straight software rendition. Guess I'll look into this sim after all.

Re: my handle, it was given to my by some friends(?) many years ago who noted it matched my real life initials. There may also have been some under-vocalized mutterings about my personality to go with it? The full version is King Lab Rat.

Thanks for the replies, chaps,

KLR

#686371 - 09/26/01 07:54 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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Salute King Rat!!!!

I didnt mean to mislead you. "Wheels Up!!" is just an expression meaning "Start Motors and Take Off !!"
Since you mentioned glide wrappers, I think that no one has been able to find one that really works. There was a thread regarding them here a while ago. The consensus was that there isn't one that works.
As I stated, many, or maybe most by now, pilots do not have glide capable video cards. You can, however, get a Voodoo 2 card and connect it up with your newer card.
It's all "Greek to me" how to do it, but there are lots of folks here who can advise you on that.
Hope to see you in the French skies soon !!!!
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#686372 - 10/01/01 05:58 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  

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Quote:
Originally posted by RAC Shnoze Shmon:

no real aces who flew from 1916 to the armstice.


However, Udet flew from 1915 (if not before) and survived, didn't he?

#686373 - 10/01/01 09:56 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  

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Howdy
Pijlie there are quite a few tricks
with the Camel. I assume you are
flying it in advanced mode.
The Key to the Camel is smooth inputs,
Forcefeedback and framerates. You need
good FPS to " feel" the Camel, watch the
screen for shake, and or back off on your
inputs if you feel stick shudder.
Quite a few feel that the Camel and Dr1
in advanced mode are the most accurate.
I've never flown a Camel or any plane
so all I can say are they take time to
learn. In the Camel go easy on the rudder
for most ACM manuvers. Use rudder mainly
to aim and/or prevent stalls. Keep speed
high and stay away from climbing left turns
until you get the feel of it.
To land line up on the runway come in fast
and tab the engine to slow down
get both gear on the ground, before you chop
throttle. It will roll on ya so keep the
wheel on the ground until you build up or
drop your speed.

Bullet mass is a double edged sword.
a BM of 500 means that your bullets are very
powerful,,, so is your opponents and AI
wingmates. 1 bullet can down a plane.
Setting your bullet mass to 1 will make it
more difficult for you to down your enemies,
until you get the hang of getting close and
making those bullets count.

A problem with Advanced flight mode is that
when damaged some planes performance increase
substantially. The AI really does not
capitalize on this, but you or I certainly
will and so will any online players.

I like the intermediate flight mode with
all options maxed out, or some of
the custom FM's and DM's for Single mode.
For Online play I prefer the Normal Flight
mode.
To simulate Normal Flight mode offline,
select intermediate, turn off, torque,
gunjams, and blackouts.

Good Luck
Weasel!

#686374 - 10/02/01 06:04 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  

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S! RAF Slicer

Yep yer right Udet flew from 1914 to the Armstice, although, he flew in recon & bombers until some time in 1916. He He so I guess its possible to survive a whole campaign.

#686375 - 10/03/01 12:07 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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And Nungesser...as a fighter pilot,no?


"Anyone can shoot you down if you don't see him coming but it takes a wonderfully good Hun to bag a Camel if you're expecting him."
Tom Cundall.
#686376 - 10/05/01 12:53 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  

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Actually have on both sides. Full realism. No Glide. 1916 thru Armistice.

Guess cause fly like really there. One life - flimsy plane - run away to fight another day. Dont fly over flak areas. If can hear the bell - too close.

Can be done.

#686377 - 10/12/01 06:14 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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My typical campaigns in Red Baron 3D tend to be short, brutish, violent affairs. I guess I really should start flying with the philosophy of "running to fight another day" but it's just SO tempting to stick it out and try to bag that e/a.

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"Hello! How are you gentlemen?

You have no chance to survive, make your time!"
#686378 - 08/18/06 03:20 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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How about it, anyone still around made it to Armistice? I did once, Maimed for Life!

S!


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#686379 - 08/18/06 06:10 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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The only way I get far in the single player campaign is hitting the abort button every time I get shot up. Several times I have made it back over my lines and landed safely while wounded only to be maimed and discharged. So now if I really want to continue my pilot when I'm seeing red, I just abort and restart.

I have gone on mission after mission for what seems like for ever but I've never seen the last one.

#686380 - 08/18/06 06:23 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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"Since you mentioned glide wrappers, I think that no one has been able to find one that really works. There was a thread regarding them here a while ago. The consensus was that there isn't one that works.
As I stated, many, or maybe most by now, pilots do not have glide capable video cards. You can, however, get a Voodoo 2 card and connect it up with your newer card."

Huh? Glide wrappers don't work? Someone has their wires crossed because I use dgvoodoo with my 1900 ATI and it works just as well as a voodoo card. I get 100% Glide graphics and great frame rates to boot. I'd post some screens with the frame rates right on the screen... but I don't know how to get the screen shots from my computer to this board.

#686381 - 08/18/06 02:40 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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Andrewsdad was writing in 2001. If I recall, we didn't get dgVoodoo until early 2004. Sorry for bumping this ancient thread, Toadvine.


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#686382 - 08/18/06 02:54 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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Oh, no problem. I didn't realize how old the thread was, but I don't remember ever using a wrapper that didn't work. I remember discussions over which was better the wrapper or a voodoo card, but even Glidos worked. Glidos was the earliest one I ever tried.

#686383 - 08/18/06 11:50 PM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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Yeah, I started this thread way back in the day.

Anyway, I'm still playing RB3D. And the only pilot that I made it all the way to the End was a British pilot. But I had to abort more than a few times when he got wounded or killed. He ended up with almost 400 kills though.

Other than that, I always die one way or another. I've come close so many times. One time I got captured and escaped many months later. Only to get shot down and killed on my next mission in 1918. It's frustrating.

#686384 - 08/19/06 02:44 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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>>I didn't realize how old the thread was>>

I was fooled too -- until I read a reference to the old Fairy Godmother's of Flight FM and looked at the date. Fun reading it all now though. I miss Pepe.

FWIW I think the best way to have a chance at surviving a campaign is to use CM11 to slow down the rate at which ground AA mgs acquire targets accurately, I've been shot up too many times when my use of auto navigation between encounters lead my flight over a landmark at low altitude.

It's also a good practice to head home any time you get shot up at all over enemy territory, then land asap. Forced landing or flamers or debilitation due to undetected damage or injury also ruin perfectly good campaigns.


Au revoir en l'air...S!
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#686385 - 08/19/06 03:56 AM Re: Has anyone ever survived a campaign?  
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Seven flying Red Baron and I'm still no where near ending a campaign. The longest I've survived was with a German pilot who started in January 1916 (using WFP). He survived until October 1916, when he got nailed by Archie when on a 'attack infantry' mission.


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