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#686261 - 08/03/01 03:37 PM This place has become quiet....  

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Salute!

As this forum first started, there was a blast of postings and a lot of interest in the different aspects and features of Red Baron.

After the crash, it has become real quite here. Since I had my opinion on the things going on then, and also expressed this in a way that I am not too proud of today, I just held myself back to watch how everything will develop here, after the re-launch.

Now, I wonder where all the nice guys from "hour one" are (RossC ?).

Are you all just observing too, or are you just tired of all what have happened before? (This is NO question to bring up ANYTHING of older discusssion here, I can just not say it better in my poor English).

We have such an exquisite place here at SimHQ, and I miss a lot of you and the good spirit, we have developed not so long ago.

A simple "I am still here" would be enough.

Kind of desperate, I send greetings to all of you

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#686262 - 08/03/01 09:04 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Tron,
Some of the fine folks here at SimHQ came down a bit hard on some of us, so it just may be that we are a bit gun shy of this forum. I have to admit, that the ONLY reason I am even reading/posting here is that Wings of Honor Red Baron forum is down. I saw Mav's post regarding zipped files and replied to that, but as long as the fine folks here at SimHQ are, well, just suffice it to say that some of us feel like we are simply treading on thin ice and don't want to break through.

Frank

#686263 - 08/03/01 09:08 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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Salut Tron/Sturmbock!
I have been watching ever since SimHQ RB reopened and just haven't seen many threads that I could contribute to.

I prefer cool & quiet to hot & noisy, anyway.
Au revoir en l'air...S!
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#686264 - 08/03/01 10:19 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Actual count is:

2 old helpful hands (Tinman and LE_Heureux [le Aide]).

Thanks and Salute, boys!

Bring it on, guys, the rookies need your knowledge!

Let's make this forum again the place, that it was before !!!!!!

(standing on a soapbox, gesticulating wildly with his crank to the general position of the monitor)

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#686265 - 08/03/01 10:32 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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Tron, Skylark is still here and I share your feelings somewhat. Since the dark time, I too, have noticed a marked reduction in forum postings. Perhaps some have moved on while others maybe summer vacationing. I'm in the process of changing my internet server so my home connection will down for a short time. I recently posted an inquiry and received a few informative responses. So, I know, that they are out there and the forum hasn't died. It's just quiet. One of the things that has always impressed me about the RB3d sim. and it's followers is it's longevity and the it's ability to always bounce back. It's still the best dynamic campaign flight sims out there. So take heart and keep the faith. It's just quiet is all. Skylark .. out


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#686266 - 08/03/01 11:00 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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I still read, but haven't seen anything that I feel I can contribute to. Mostly, this has to do with the limited amount of people that have been posting here. I can't say that I'm gunshy, but I am wondering whether it's worth writing responses anymore. I guess this means that I'm kinda frustrated with the RB forum, but mostly, I'm just leery about posting something that I feel is important and then have it be erased when if the forum closes again. Not that it's going to (crosses fingers), but still... It's a concern.

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#686267 - 08/03/01 11:07 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Skylark, thanks for the response,

this all sounds reasonable.

I will go back to my bunker and read a good book:



(English title: "All quiet on the western front")

I will be here to help, but not so often anymore.

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#686268 - 08/03/01 11:16 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Seriously, though... if more people posted, I'd respond more. And I know that other people would too. So maybe talking like this is a good thing. To bring awareness to it.

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#686269 - 08/03/01 11:42 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Dear Jedi,

Exactley this is the purpose of this thread....



Thank you, Jerec. The force is with us.


Thank you, Kyle

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#686270 - 08/03/01 11:53 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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I think some of the more passionate/vocal members that previously posted here had their feelings hurt by how things worked out earlier. Some of them may be the ones that got banned too. They fought for reasons they believed in and knew the consequences of their actions. To be honest I was unsure of whether or not I was banned too.

Given enough time I think most will eventually come back (those that can). RB is like crack to us, we can't help but get the itch to come back.

The reason I do come to this forum is becauseI think this forum is the best chance this game has to encourage more people to try it out. I think it has graphically kept up with other flight sims via player mods and the dynamic campaign is better than most of the scripted campaigns other flight sims offer.

Someone was posting pics of ROTJ planes in flight and I think that really encouraged a number of people to give RB3D a try. I think they were using hypersnap. Maybe we ought to have a "pic of the day" thread to show off what RB3D has to offer.

Another thing I would like to see is an effort to improve SP AI. While the AI is not BAD, after a few years of flying you can beat most anything the AI can throw at you. Of course the AI does not use Boom and Zoom tactics for the SE5A or the Spad XIII, which hamstrings those planes terribly.

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#686271 - 08/04/01 05:07 AM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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>>(standing on a soapbox, gesticulating wildly with his crank to the general position of the monitor)>>

Maybe it's your English, but I got the strangest image of you just now...

Au revoir en l'air...S!
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#686272 - 08/04/01 05:43 AM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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Salute!

I think quite a few things have contributed to the quite here lately. Wings of Honor is of course going through a change of hosting, all the guys with their stuff on delphi(oops I meant NBCi Flybert just reminded me) are having to put it someplace else also making them busy. I've seen a few names in WW2Online so guys trying something a bit different for a change too. They won't get their flying fix there though.IMHO Should get back to normal just in time for IL-2 to come out. Demo in September right? The one crippling thing to the RB3D community is the loss of 3dfx and glide, that hurts. I figure that i'll have two computers some day. One old one for RB3D and a brand new one for the new stuff. I'll probably use the old one more.

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#686273 - 08/04/01 11:15 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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Quote:
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...I figure that i'll have two computers some day. One old one for RB3D and a brand new one for the new stuff. I'll probably use the old one more.


Salute, Hentzau!

That's exactly what I'm working on right now...two computers. However, one will be for the family, and one will be just for me! Both will be connected to the same monitor, keyboard, and mouse by an automatic A/B switch. I'm gonna run my Voodoo in tandem with the integrated 3D on the new mobo so that I can play RB3D and the newer games (like CFS2) on the faster machine. I'll be going from 166 MHz with 48 RAM (maxed out) to 900 MHz with 256 RAM (expandable to 512). Also, I'll be working off a Windows 98 platform since I've heard both good and bad about ME and 2000 and our game.

I've been researching this for the last six months and my squadmates tell me this should work out fine for what I want--i.e., increased FPS flying RB3D on-line, plus the juice to try out some of the newer flight sims coming out.

Something to think about!

P.S. Salute, Sturmbock! Still here, bud!



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#686274 - 08/05/01 12:49 AM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Howdy
Well whadya wanna talk about strum?
hehehe
btw your Dr1 flying is improving
quite a bit!!
I'll administer more lessons soon.
S!! bud
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#686275 - 08/05/01 04:26 AM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Well...I'd certainly be posting more often if I hadn't cut my right hand to ribbons. Unlike some of you who developed your one-handed typing skills in cyber-chat rooms, this flying/typing with one wing drives me BONKERS!!! (j/k about the one-handed typing skills, by the way)

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S!

I'm a nice guy! & I've been posting!

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Quote:
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Howdy
Well whadya wanna talk about strum?
hehehe
btw your Dr1 flying is improving
quite a bit!!
I'll administer more lessons soon.
S!! bud
Weasie


S! Liesl !!

heheheh..weasie, leasie..come..snick..schnicker...

Always a pleasure to get some lessons from the enemy...improves skill a lot.

But..one day I will put the Weasel into a hole in the ground (which is it's natural environment anyway)...LOL

S! bud!!

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#686278 - 08/05/01 03:39 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Gotta say that the only reason I'm reading here is because WOH is being upgraded.
With mny sense of British humour I don't want to uset the people that are unable to take it
So its back to WOH where the real pilots hang out as soon as its back up

#686279 - 08/05/01 04:11 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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Yes, the fact that RB3D is for all purposes tied to Glide has hit RB3D bad enough, but if IL-2 multiplay is anything like they say...

See, I'd wager most of the RB crowd nowadays are MMP players. One can only wonder how many of those remain when IL-2 competes for their time.

Excellent FM, DM and visuals in modifiable environment...

Oleg&Co missed the ball when it comes to SP but how many prospective players are going to tinker with rusty old Voodoos just to make this *one* game run beautifully in their system, no matter how excellent the campaing engine is (and it *has* its faults too) ?

Well, 4 years of rabid fans is a truly remarkable achievement for any game...


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#686280 - 08/05/01 07:32 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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I've been a bit busy in RL and getting my new URL squared away ,

http://www.flybert.net

Please bookmark this ....

NBCi.com(XOOM) is soon to shut down hosting and I haven't been able to upload there for 2 weeks.

I'm redoing the last of my old pages (with the Dynamix shape files , getting 2 new sets of bomber/alternative model sets together along with tutorials for their use ... as well as finishing up the rather extensive Great War 5 set-up with Razman.

Baron von Helton had a major computer crash/fry , so things are very quiet with ROTJ for the forseeable future

#686281 - 08/05/01 11:53 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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Salute Gripen,
When you mention that Oleg&Co. dropped the ball on SP, do you mean that IL-2s not going to be a dynamic campaign or does it mean poor AI???

#686282 - 08/05/01 11:56 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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Salute Herr Mac,
Hey maybe you should write a tutorial on that also. I'd be interested and I bet a few more would be. Whats this switch that you mentioned for running two computers with one keyboard, monitor, mouse?

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Whats this switch that you mentioned for running two computers with one keyboard, monitor, mouse?


Salute, Hentzau!

It's called a KVM switch. Two cables will run from the switchbox into the monitor hook-ups on each computer. Then, my monitor, keyboard, and mouse will plug into the switchbox. It's an automatic switch, which means that it will recognize which computer I'm using without my having to turn any knobs.

It's as simple as that. I have to buy a second set of speakers for the new computer, but that's all.

I just figured that the computer we've got now is absolutely fine for my wife's and kids' needs--i.e., web access, a little word processing, and some kids' games. I'm the one who needs the extra speed, the RAM, and the hard-drive space. However, I don't want nor do I need TWO WHOLE COMPUTER SET-UPS!!! This was the perfect solution for me--and it's completely expandable and upgradeable.

Hope that helps!

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#686284 - 08/06/01 06:18 AM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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I think many of the newcomers have been put off by the whole fiasco that went down here before, and the WOH people are reluctant to post here because of solidarity with those who might have been banned. I read the forum quite a bit, but the lack of interesting topics lately are the main reason I don`t post more....

#686285 - 08/06/01 11:47 AM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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Hype is hype, but from the leaked reports I expect the IL-2 AI to be above average. It remains to be seen whether the positive reports about AI's capabilities are due to good programming or the testers inexperience with their mounts coupled to the more realistic&restricting view system available in IL-2. Remember, it was only after playing RB for a while that the AI became a bunch of clay pigeons. And of course they managed to destroy RB AI's sense of self-preservation in the transition from 1.55 to superpatch...but I digress/digess/degress (damn, where is my dictionary lol)

The "problem" with IL-2 is therefore the campaing. No doubt the root of the "problem" is that IL-2 was originally a much more modest concept - not unlike some more advanced CFS2 mod in scope, really.

They then added new planes, new maps and even new 'airforces', but the scripted campaing stayed. Missions are drawn randomly from a large pool, they have causal consistencies and ground damage is persistent from one mission to the next, but...

BUT...

You know, even if we dismiss replayability issues I must say that I do have a problem with scripted missions. They may have random events (25% chance 2 LaGGs appear here, 33% and they appear there instead) and all sort of gimmicks, but every time I fly a scripted mission I feel I'm battling the mission designer, not the enemy.

When I see 2 planes low..."Gee, the designer has made a trap", is my instinctive thought. The beauty of RB2's approach was that anything could and did happen spontaneously.

In short, no matter how pretty the transvestite is it just *isn't* the same...

Oh, make no mistake: I acquire my copy of IL-2 even if I have to lie and murder my way to a copy , but it won't break RB2's record on HD time unless I too totally assimilate myself into the multiplayers' clan.


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#686286 - 08/06/01 05:22 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  

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Gripen, you hit the nail on the head first time.
If the MMp of IL2 is not up to the same level as RB2, then it will surely die. No matter how good it may be elsewhere.
Couldn't agree more with you

#686287 - 08/06/01 07:29 PM Re: This place has become quiet....  
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I doubt IL-2 would die Blackadder even if its MMP isn't as good as RB3D, it just won't appeal to us RB guys as much. We are a small group compared to the numbers that fly ww2 planes. The rest of the masses haven't even played RB3D so IL-2 multiplay just needs to be better than the Zone which shouldn't be too big a task.

Thanks for the replies Gripen and Herr Mac. Glad to know about those KVM switches.

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