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#667419 - 12/31/01 11:49 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Originally posted by The Whistler:
Special Forces? Heh, the guys in GR are more like Special Olympics.

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OMG hahhahahahahahhahaahahh that's the funniest thing i've heard all day hahahahaha.

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#667420 - 12/31/01 11:59 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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BTW, for my opinion on OFP, i feel it is extremly realistc. No recoil? bah take an M60 and fire at a guy standing up and tell me there's no recoil in OFP. The last hour i set up a really cool scenario where i have to defend a heavily fortified area with fences and barbed wire and sandbags and everything against 3 squads of infantry 2 BMPs, and some supporting vehicles. All i had defending was about 6 M60ers, 1 officer, 2 M2s and Me with a M16 and a LAW. Well the first squad of 9 russian soldiers attacked my defenced only to be slaugterd by m60s, the BMPs came after this taking out both my M2s before i was able to LAW them. Next I just noticed in time 2 squads simultaniuously flanking us, 9 soldiers to the left 9 soldiers to the right. Well I started firing and the M60s followed, i watched from my sandbags as most of the defenders were taken out but there were 2 m60ers left, suddenly an eerie silence fell over my base and i came out of my defences and took a look around and saw russian bodies and trucks and BMPs littered dead and lifeless all over the battlefield.

Now tell me that isn't realistic?

The bottom line is it's excellent for infantry combat, the Tanks and Vehiciles and air units are there for kicks but they're fun. It's a great game and i spend a little bit of my daily simming in it. For $40 you can't go wrong.

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#667421 - 12/31/01 10:18 PM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Viper,
Do you have the RH campaign yet? There's a mission called "Alamo" that is basically exactly what you're describing, except you're on the Russian side and there's only 6 of you.

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#667422 - 12/31/01 10:52 PM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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#667423 - 12/31/01 11:25 PM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Flydude, if this is a place where only dudes who like OPF hand out then why are you here? You stole the game, say it sucks/or do not really like it's arcadish form so then go to GR and praise how much you like it but as everything in life envy rules your mind.

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#667424 - 12/31/01 11:48 PM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Originally posted by FLYdude:
...my friend has the game, i run it at my house cracked...



FlyDude, maybe you've set off the "fade" protection and now ur copy becoming more and more unplayable? So in a way, maybe we a talking about 2 differen games ?

BTW, if u ask me, there is nothing arcadish about OFP from infatry side. and this side is done way better than in Ghost Recon.

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#667425 - 01/01/02 12:08 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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um.......yeah i cracked it.........the "FADE" protection is just a bunch of bullshit......the security prog on the CD is called "SafeCD" and i cracked that mother****er. gameplay is not degrading. i didnt say there was no recoil at all. never tried the M60, M16 is a little......dunno....well, it wasnt at full auto...i guess its not that bad.....lol....i would also like to mention......GR is not completely a inf. sim. they r a little more spec ops. they dont operate in as big groups as dudes in OFP........."The Ghosts" r inbetween the rangers, delta, seals, and reg US infantry, also contain elements of SAS, GIGN, and GSG-9
one thing i hate about GR is that there is no damn G36.......how can u have a good shooter without a G36 for cryin out loud......A FRIEKIN G36.........

#667426 - 01/01/02 12:30 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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hehe...

1. Yes, we got G36 in OFP and it still an "OK" shooter in ur eyes?

2. Im happy, that you are happy you've been able to crack it...although I wouldn't scream outloud these kind of things.

3. If you don't mind, I would drop my 2 cents on ur statement:

Quote:
Originally posted by FLYdude:
...they r a little more spec ops. they dont operate in as big groups as dudes in OFP...


Well, thats true, they don't go in big numbers, but then in Real life, they don't engage the enemy either...if u have a specops guyz on the ground, it is mainly becouse they are there to collect intellegence and details on whatever, and if they need to go in and take something or somebody out, then they call in 101st airbone or 82 airbone. They land in force and numbers thats allows to complete objective with less casulties and more efficency. Therefore, I wouldn't bet on 1 to 100 ratio to be realistic in GR. I guess "Rambo" movie has more realism in it, than levels in Ghost Recon.

My 2 cents and Happy New Year

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#667427 - 01/01/02 12:47 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Masta of Disasta!:
hehe...

1. Yes, we got G36 in OFP and it still an "OK" shooter in ur eyes?


its still an "OK" shooter. G36 rocks by the way...

2. Im happy, that you are happy you've been able to crack it...although I wouldn't scream outloud these kind of things.

u missunderstood me. i have heard that somebody was able to crack it. i have a fully legitemate copy at my house which i got as a present for b-day (and reluctantly accepted it lol)

3. If you don't mind, I would drop my 2 cents on ur statement:.....

oh yeah....your 2 cents.....

Ghost Recon, while still trying to recreate Spec Ops operations.....has gone away from the whole stealth thing in Rouge Spear (it still has MP5SD but, not very useful at big ranges).
Rouge Spear was doing the spec ops thing very good....most missions were hostage rescue with 2 recon missions. Ghost Recon was trying to move to the rangers or the airborne and got stuck in the middle. very bad place to be. almost as bad as engaging a force 3 times bigger then urs at very long ranges. without stealth, u lose the advantage, and then the numbers do matter.
thats another one of those development screw-ups.....OFP istn without its screw-ups either.......long list here......why put in the capability to drive and fly if u cant do it good.......the campaign is WAY OVERSCRIPTED......took me 5 tries to pass this mission, it would just get stuck, everybody would just be chillin with all enemies dead and when i try to go somewhere, they start screamin at me, return to formation. also, at one retry point, the truck we were on got stuck in midair, i had to shoot it from the back to get it moving, then run after it.........and look at all the new versions.....if u do the game right the first time, you wont need all those fix patches..........so, every game did something wrong.......(by the way, RS is the best FPS in the world.....)(and, this is my logest post EVER)




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#667428 - 01/01/02 01:34 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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FlyDude,

First of all, Iam too hardcore Roguer Spear player, begining with Rainbow Six...but when I saw Ghost Recon...I just wasnt ready to throw my 50$ for another add-on the year later and with not as many improvemetns in it. here is my first impression on Demo, if you are intrested...

http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/Forum75/HTML/000015.html

As u can see alot of people agreed with my opinion out there.

Secondly, I do agree that either of the games are perfect, but then what game is?
I mean the most "Free of Bugs" game out of the box, that I've seen is IL-2 Sturmovik, but there is still room for improvemetns.

Thirdly,
Quote:
Originally posted by FLYdude:
why put in the capability to drive and fly if u cant do it good


So you are happy with what GR developer did?
They didn't want to put Choper model in cuz, with thier engine it wouldn't look good, so now when you are done with objectives in the missions u don't need to get to extraction point? Real missions does not stop right there, most of times get to Extraction is most difficult part in real life...
So here you go developers trying to "simulate" ground ops but in the same time dumping realism by saving visual effect...In OFP, developers weren't ready to follow this way, they were and are ready to do anything to make sure they are simulating "how is it to be a grunt" Even if thier Flight Model for UH-60 is not realistic...atleast they provide you with realistic stage in your missions.

Another point:
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when i try to go somewhere, they start screamin at me, return to formation


man it called "deserting" in real life and in some millitary organizations, people get shot for this

Quote:
also, at one retry point, the truck we were on got stuck in midair


Personally I've never seen this...but then again u get the insertion stage of the operation even with bad physics, but still, its not like in GR you start 100m away from your objectives, somewhere in the bush

Quote:
if u do the game right the first time, you wont need all those fix patches.


Once again nobody is perfect, but if start to compare bugs in OFP and GR, in the ratio of work been done in OFP, I believe there will much less bugs in OFP than in GR.



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#667429 - 01/01/02 01:57 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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wow wow wow wow......hold up.........Ghost Recon isnt another addon (we did see a lot of those though...UO, CO ). i would have bought it right away, but im not a big infantry fan.....i think GR is also an "OK" shooter........ i get both and when ppl say that GR is R6:3...........NEVER!!!!!!!!!! lol.......anyway...as for OFP......they take an "OK" shooter and they give you the ability to fly and drive......ok its different.....its fun..........but the flying and driving parts dont simulate anything.....so u could say that its for the most part a sim.........also....yeah....GR is somewhat messed up, but so is OFP.......finnally, i cant wait for the REAL R6:3 .........

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#667430 - 01/01/02 02:16 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Quote:
Originally posted by FLYdude:
...but the flying and driving parts dont simulate anything


remeber one thing dude, OFP is a Infatry men Simulation, not a tank sim, not a Flight sim, and not a Dirving sim.
Its all there, just to make grunt simulation more realistic.

Yes, when u drive things in OFP they are arcadish...but when you walk on ur feet with rifle in your hands... there is not many games that can much OFP in creating the feeling of really being there.

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[This message has been edited by Masta of Disasta! (edited 12-31-2001).]


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#667431 - 01/01/02 02:41 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Originally posted by Masta of Disasta!:
remeber one thing dude, OFP is a Infatry men Simulation, not a tank sim, not a Flight sim, and not a Dirving sim. .................


I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW!!!!!!!!!
its an inf. sim.........and the air and land parts r there so u wont have to rely on stupid AI for support.......happy.....i never said i hate OFP.....i was kinda disapointed cause i thought this would be great (U CAN DRIVE AND SHOOT AND FLY) flying and driving is still my fav part of the game (it is arcade, but its fun)......as i said before, i dont like inf.
lol, i can shoot up to ranges of 50m, anything above that, i need guided missiles.
ive actually been thinking about joinin a squadron or a clan, whatever the hell u call it in this game.......still need to upgrade to 1.4..............

#667432 - 01/01/02 04:05 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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FLYDUDE,
You still here? Then you really like the game, umm... If it were me and I find Mario Bros. arcadish why would I stay on it's forums?

I like GR but I don't go to it's forums to shit on people for it's faults. We got your message and thank you for them, so good bye and have a beer on the way out. Thank you!

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#667433 - 01/01/02 01:10 PM Re: IS IT WORTH?  

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A quote:

"$40 bucks....HELL NO....my friend has the game, i run it at my house cracked. Its ok, but i personally would never buy it

um.......yeah i cracked it.........the "FADE" protection is just a bunch of bullshit......the security prog on the CD is called "SafeCD" and i cracked that mother****er.

u missunderstood me. i have heard that somebody was able to crack it. i have a fully legitemate copy at my house which i got as a present for b-day (and reluctantly accepted it lol)"

End quote.

Not having a go at anyone, but this cracked me up.

#667434 - 01/01/02 09:38 PM Re: IS IT WORTH?  

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LMAO!

It seems with the school holidays the forums have gotten quite an influx of idiots .

#667435 - 01/02/02 01:15 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Whistler, almost funny....keep trying.

as for the 3 statements.......i may have mislead ppl on the first 2, i didnt write the software to crack it.....i found it on the internet........
as for the 3rd one.......i was kidding....

#667436 - 01/02/02 02:59 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  

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Sure...

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#667437 - 01/02/02 06:36 AM Re: IS IT WORTH?  
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Alright guyz, we got FlyDude's butt flamed around here...why won't you let it go now

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this was the one I was looking for...




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