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#557265 - 05/05/01 07:47 PM TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Once again it appears , that the UK buying public are the beta testers for a bug ridden sim !

Rage softwares - Hostile Waters - Anteus Rising , sitting on my hard drive , running fine , with DX8 , voodoo 3 card , 500 cpu , 128 ram , soundblaster card etc

Rage softwares - Typhoon - sitting on same hard drive , unplayable due to system lockups and crashes to desktops with error messages . You can fly for no more than a few minutes in game before termimally lockups .

So people,if you like rebooting you pc , and ruining your hard drives in the process - go buy this game !

The game ships with DX7 - despite testing and development cycle the game is heavily bugged out of the box !

Incredibly the game appears to be non 3DFX compatible !

YOU HAVE BEEN DUELY WARNED !

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#557266 - 05/05/01 08:02 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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So, what you're saying then is that because this game doesn't work on your PC it won't work on anyone elses? Wrong!

Typhoon works fine for me. Of course there are a few minor glitches but I've had no crashes at all. So, mister sweeping statements what do you make of that?

People really annoy me who categorically state that a game will not function on all PCs just because it doesn't work on their PC. Perhaps you might want to change that 3Dfx card - old technology I'm afraid.

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#557267 - 05/05/01 08:18 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Incredibly the game appears to be non 3DFX compatible !

Define your specs dude ???
gfx card ?

if it works for you cool ! im glad

Read the forum - 3dfx owners can't play it !

Even Andy Bush's 3dfx card now locks up after 30 mins of play , he is lucky try 2 mins or 5 mins max !

Im merely warning 3DFX owners the product is broke - capish !

Rage built it , and thats me being polite , im one of the suckers that purchased it , other 3dfx purhasers beware !


#557268 - 05/05/01 08:22 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Stephenwhite, I think you are missing the point that 3dfxboy is trying to make. He is warning potential owners that if they own a 3dfx V3 card then, on their computer, there is a very, very good chance that the game will not work. It doesn't work for me and many others who have posted on this forum, some of whom have had to re-install windows. Had I been fore-warned I could have avoided hours of frustration myself.

#557269 - 05/05/01 08:30 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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I think what 3dfx bloke says is justified. I haven't found anybody yet who has been able to run the full game on any 3dfx card other than a Voodoo 5. It's unbelievable that something like this could make it through QA...Voodoos are probably in 50% of the people who buy this game's computers. And if 50% of them return the game...that's seriously bad news for Rage.

As for buying a new card: that may be easy if you're rich. I am not prepared to upgrade my Graphics card, since everything else I own and want to run runs fantastically.

#557270 - 05/05/01 08:34 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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lol, 3dfx cards.

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#557271 - 05/05/01 08:44 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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lol, 3dfx cards.

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Hee hee hee..
indeed.

moaning and groaning that a game recently released does not work with a graphics card that has no vendor support or recent drivers released for it.

This is a "Duuuuh" moment

incredibly the game appears to be non 3dfx compatible

Get used to it dude. This is going to happen more and more, and there's nothing 'incedible' or 'unbelievable' about it.

Oh..and please explain how rebooting will ruin your hard drive?


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My apologies - I did misread the inital comments. However, 3Dfx is old technology and upgrading is the best bet. I have a 3Dfx and TNT2 and never use the 3Dfx. Graphics cards aren't that expensive these days - I certainly wouldn't say you have to be rich to get one.

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I think what 3dfx bloke says is justified. I haven't found anybody yet who has been able to run the full game on any 3dfx card other than a Voodoo 5. It's unbelievable that something like this could make it through QA...Voodoos are probably in 50% of the people who buy this game's computers. And if 50% of them return the game...that's seriously bad news for Rage.

As for buying a new card: that may be easy if you're rich. I am not prepared to upgrade my Graphics card, since everything else I own and want to run runs fantastically.


Thankyou - i agree entirelty with you

i have a voodoo5 in the post to me at the moment too , im upgrading !

I must admit i get annoyed at tho pissing contest of/ over video cards , eg 3dfx lovers / haters etc .

But i would hope that all the simmers would rally around to help each other not , make silly , snide and unhelpful comments re each others hardware !

3dfx cards are the most widely held , and the best for compatibility on all game types historically !

If people are playing typhoon stabley on dx8 with other vid cards , great , you must be having fun , but please support your 3dfx simming kin folk , as we can't fly and enjoy this sim with you !

This fault is unacceptable and lies firmly at the door of Rage , they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves !

please note i purchased both hostile waters and typhoon together on the same day at EB , I gave RAGE alot of my hard earned money , the products are installed side by side on my d:\ hard drive , one works , the other does not - explain that ???????

This is down to incompetance and bad / what testing of the product ?????????????????????

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I think some folks are missing the point. Typhoon was clearly advertised to work with Voodoo cards. If it does not, then Rage is commiting fraud and has violated the law and the trust of its consumers. This must be fixed immediately, if not sooner!!!

#557275 - 05/05/01 09:31 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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I think some folks are missing the point. Typhoon was clearly advertised to work with Voodoo cards. If it does not, then Rage is commiting fraud and has violated the law and the trust of its consumers. This must be fixed immediately, if not sooner!!!


On the other hand the demo readme clearly mentions problems with 3Dfx cards..

"3DFX
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Voodoo 2 - 3DFX has ceased support for DirectX7 Transform and Lighting applications for this card
Voodoo 3 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant
Voodoo 5 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant"

Are these cards mentioned as compatible on the box?

I didn't intend to respond to your post. But I'm trying to find out of Rage advertised that the game would work with Voodoo cards on the box.

Fishbed you mention that you have a Voodoo card and the demo works for you. Wonder why the full game won't work. Did others with Voodoo problems get the demo to work OK but not that full game?

Anyhow I really hope that this is fixable. The 3Dfx cards are old technology and there will probably be other games in the future that will not work with it (maybe). But that doesn't mean everyone shouldn't enjoy Typhhon.


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#557276 - 05/05/01 09:35 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Hi

The point is that it would work with your VooDoo card if the drivers were DX7 & DX8 compliment (which they are not).

For those that don't know a driver is the software that sits between DX and the Graphics card - we tell DX what to do, it tells the driver and the driver tells the card - If the driver is not compliment with the lastest version of DX then things go wrong.

I'm just as annoyed as you are with this, but it is not our responsibility to write drivers for G-cards.

And the reason why your other games work is because they don't use DX7 & DX8 specific graphics calls - you will find that more and more games come out in the future that will have the same problems.

We'll help as much as we can, but pressure needs to be applied to the card manufactures to sort most of these problems.

For an interesting read, have a look at http://www.3dfx.com

As I say, help we will try, but some of this is out of our hands.

Cheers,

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#557277 - 05/05/01 09:44 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Well Steve, all I can say is that you better change what is listed on your web site, and quickly recall every unit of Typhoon that is shipped thus far, and offer a full refund to each consumer. You should then paste a label on each and every Typhhon box that is placed back on the market clearly indicating that it will not run on 3DFX cards. That is the only ethical thing you can do at this point other than fixing the game. I can give you my address so you can send me the check if you need it.

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Fish,

Missed the point again -

It's the card that should be sent back, not Typhoon - then they should put a big sticker on it saying, this card is not DX complient!

Cheers,

Steve

#557279 - 05/05/01 09:55 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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I appreciate your frustration. Let's be careful when we make certain statements regarding 3dfx cards.

The problems are with the V3 series, not all 3dfx cards. I use a 3dfx V5 5500 and have excellent results.

I'm not sure what the problem is...or whether or not anything can be done about it. Until someone identifies what the specific problem is, perhaps we all ought to step back and hold our fire!

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Hey can I just ask what the patch that's come out is for? Has DX 8.1 come out yet?

#557281 - 05/05/01 10:14 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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It's not really a patch as such. It's a file that addresses a specific sign on problem that some folks were having.

I believe SimHQ is going to post it on the news. If not, e-mail me and I'll send it to you.

Andy

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Yeah, Thanks Andy, I've got the patch, but not the game yet. (I'm in New zealand you see). Anyway, can you tell me how to use it?

I'm not very computer literate, so you may have to treat me like an idiot.

Email: terminal_velocity_typhoon@hotmail.com

#557283 - 05/05/01 11:34 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Bought it today, and no problems on Voodoo 5500 here with DirectX 8.0a.

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This from Rage:

>>If anyone has a problem where they can't enter their name in the typhoon pilot login screen, this file will fix the problem.

Copy it into your 'rage software\eurofighter typhoon\players' directory.

This is a DX8 Input bug and will be fixed by microsoft in DX8.1 next month.<<

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#557285 - 05/06/01 01:20 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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I just don't understand how my graphics card can be insufficient for Typhoon when EVERY SINGLE OTHER SIM that I own works well with it (running DirectX 8.0a). This is doubly true considering that Typhoon was completed some time ago and is no more advanced graphically than other sims on my system. I have a few that do require DirectX 7.0, which has always worked well with my card. Does this mean that Rage intends on leaving Voodoo 3 owners out in the cold? Are you not going to help us at all? Steve, you promised me this wouldn't be another "Nations"-style fiasco. Please tell me this still holds true.

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This words "driver issue" is just not getting through to you is it?

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This words "driver issue" is just not getting through to you is it?


Nope..Fishbed's posts are bordering now on Trolling as far as I'm concerned.

^_^
To be so obtuse is unnatural.


I mean..how can one expect a card which does not have any official driver support anymore, to be compatible with the latest games that are now utilising a recent technology?
T&L and DirectX 8?

Even Nvidia with active driver development has a bit of trouble with the new DX8 specification.

*shrug*

Course if I could, I would take the game from Fishbed and send him a cheque just to end the senselessness


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This is a copy of what I posted somwhere else + I dont want to rub anyone up the wrong way here. But lets look at this sensibly!

I understand the issues involved with obselescent drivers but:

1) The game's "minumum spec" explicity indicates that DirectX-7 compatible graphics cards are sufficient.

2) 3dfx drivers + cards, that have been usable with DirectX7+, have been available for several months.

3) This game does not work on a large number of systems based around 3dfx chipsets

Intuitively, one might suggest that the onus is on Rage to, swiftly, provide compensation (refunds) or remediation (a patch).

I.E. Rather than Rage/ Rage-devotees trying to pin the blame on a bust company, surely it is better (for everyone) to solve the conflict.

But, of course, only an opinion...

#557289 - 05/06/01 01:48 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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"Driver Issue" is a bit hard to swallow if the only program that does not run because it uses such advanced features that the drivers can`t deliver looks... erm... well... not really great... but rather like something that came out 2 or 3 years ago... while other programms that look far better run flawless on the same system.

I know that this "driver issue" stuff is not Rage`s fault... but it is Rage`s fault that the landscape looks rather... erm... well... uhm... "If you can`t think of anything nice to say, then don`t say anything at all"

BTW... am I the only one that is amazed that some problems that already were in EF2000 like, 6 years ago are back in full glory in Typhoon (for example that nose whipping up & down stuff... even if it may be realistic with the "real" Typhoon, it`s a real showstopper for an action sim...)


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Excellent post.

You are right...let's stop trying to put the blame on anyone or anything. Instead, we should all work towards pinning down exactly what's going wrong here.

Thanks to all for keeping this civil and informative. Sims have had these kinds of problems before...let's fix ours!

Andy

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Well Andy, I'd like to know why this game
wont run smoothly on my Atari ST...

I'm not sure just what graphics card(if any) it has.
Please dont tell me to upgrade.

Nowhere on the box does it say it 'wont' run on my system.
Hopefully a patch is in the works?

ps...
Also,even with my dual external disk drives the diskette swaps (450) are taking away from the immersion factor.
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well, at least i know not to get too excited.
Back to JFA18, later. lol this thread has given me a good laugh anyway.

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I have just joined this forum, after buying and experiencing trouble with Typhoon, I have this to say:

I bought typhoon after a review and advertising campaign one of the adverts published listed the 3DFX logo plus shots saying "Takin with a Voddoo 3 3000" Now if the game doesn't work with a Voodoo 3 THAT is false advertisng and Illegal here in the UK, Wheter 3DFX have closed or not is a moot point the advert was run by Rage and they are legally bound to make sure the game supports it's advertisments. If this is not fixed ASAP then I plan on taking Legal action against Rage for False Advertisment.

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I don't have the game, but I do have a Voodoo3 2000 PCI.

Have anyone tried the Omega drivers?
Get them at http://www.omegacorner.com. They say to be DX8 compatible.

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I have just joined this forum, after buying and experiencing trouble with Typhoon, I have this to say:

I bought typhoon after a review and advertising campaign one of the adverts published listed the 3DFX logo plus shots saying "Takin with a Voddoo 3 3000" Now if the game doesn't work with a Voodoo 3 THAT is false advertisng and Illegal here in the UK, Wheter 3DFX have closed or not is a moot point the advert was run by Rage and they are legally bound to make sure the game supports it's advertisments. If this is not fixed ASAP then I plan on taking Legal action against Rage for False Advertisment.



You could try the Advertisng Standards Authority over the advert, they might issue a ruling, but I don't think it's a legal matter. Your contract exists for the purchase of the goods as actually presented, and clearly 3Dfx are NOT listed as a compatible chipset on that rather large label plastered across the end of the box (at least on my copy).

There are number of posts elsewhere from people in a similar predicament, I have a particular problem with the joystick for some reason. Just chill, I'm sure we'd all rather be part of the solution

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Actually my box has a 3DFX logo on it.
It is actually a crinimal offence punishable by a custodial sentance to make a false claim, there are numerous laws covering it, including "The Computer Missuse Act (1991)" "The Advertising Standards Act (1980)" and "The Sale of Goods Act" are just three of the acts.

The contract is between me and the shop acting on behalf of Rage Software Ltd. Rage have failed to comply with the relevent acts of Parliment releating to advertising and sale of Goods.This game is not fit for sale due to the amount of bugs/problems in it, and Trading Standards are starting to clamp down on unfinished/buggy software being released.

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Actually my box has a 3DFX logo on it.
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Trading Standards are starting to clamp down on unfinished/buggy software being released.



Where did you buy your copy? I'm curious, I've double checked my copy from GAME UK and there's definitely no 3Dfx logo anywhere on the sleeve and it's certainly not listed under "compatible cards" on the box end. Perhaps you could see if anyone else has a box that specifically shows the 3Dfx logo?

If trading standards are going after buggy software I imagine they ought to start with Windoze

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As per Vorlon,
Mine doesn't have a 3DFX logo?? It *does* have a "3D" On the side saying "3D Accelerator Card Required" But certainly no "3DFX" Logo which is pretty distinct to say the least..............

Since the game doesn't directly support a 3DFX product namely a Voodoo# it would be like putting a BMW badge on a Ford......?!

You sure you are not mistaking the side logo SAS? If not i would imagine Steve would want a word with you.

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On the side of the Box I have 3 logo's the PC CDROM logo the 3D Card required Logo and the 3DFX logo this is on both sides of the box.

I purchased it yesterday in Electronics Boutique.

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Well, as far as I can remember, the 3Dfx logo denotes that the Glide API is used, and as 3Dfx are no longer with us, and don't offer drivers anymore, I don't think we will see a Glide based game for a while.....I am not too bright mind you, but as far as I know, Typhoon is strictly a Direct3D application, like Jane's F/A-18. Therefore the 3Dfx logo shouldn't, and isn't as far as I know on the box. Remember Jane's F-15 and Longbow 2?? they had 3Dfx logos on the box because they were for 3Dfx (on release) only, and software, though if you used software for Longbow 2 your eyes would go all funny (well my eyes did!)

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well I Must have a rare box and unless Rage can prove beyond resnoble doubt to a court of law that that is a mistake then they are still responsable.

As for Glide games "Operation Flashpoint Cold War Crisis" will support 3DFX and Glide, in fact it runs better under glide than D3D at least the demo does

I have Janes FA/18 It runs fine on the system.

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This is interesting. SAS, have you got a scanner handy? Can you show us this version of the box, since no one else seems to have one.


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well I Must have a rare box and unless Rage can prove beyond resnoble doubt to a court of law that that is a mistake then they are still responsable.


Do you have a digicam or scanner handy?

There are no glide API routines in Typhoon so it would be pointless putting a 3Dfx sticker on it. BTW, do you mean sticker or actually printed on the box?

You're sure you haven't bought EF2000 v2 which had glide support?


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Even if the box says nothing about 3dfx, what difference does that make?

You've all got it backwards. What it should indicate is that it does not support V3 cards.

It seems to me that Rage could do a service to customers by giving them information that they might find useful. Steve Hunt is technically correct when he says it's 3dfx's fault for not giving good drivers.

But my point is, if Rage knows its a problem, why not share it with the legions of V3 owners before they buy the product? Why should I have to be a hardware driver afficionado to know if the game is going to run on my system?

It would be much more reasonable for Rage to warn V3 owners off (and it's not an unusual card) rather than telling me, the customer, that I should have checked if my video card's drivers were Direct X 7. or 8 certified.

I appreciate what Steve is trying to do in solving the problem, but that sort of legalistic response rubs me the wrong way.

Ken

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I appreciate what Steve is trying to do in solving the problem, but that sort of legalistic response rubs me the wrong way.

Ken


A legalistic response is necessary when you have anal individuals such as SAS talking about Advertising laws, and parlimentary laws.

I would suggest to SAS that if he cannot back his claim that Voodoo support is expressly stated on the outside of the Typhoon package (and note I didn't mention anything about a website, or other publications) that he should look into Libel and Slander laws.

And again..its a shame about the problems with the Voodoo cards..but that is to be expected.

I don't think that any game that has been released in the last three months that require Direct X 8 and makes extensive use of Hardware T&L has run on Voodoo 3s and under without some sort of Artifacts and graphics anomalies.

Most readme.txt files for recent games state some sort of incompatibility with some voodoo chipset or the other.

It really IS time to upgrade guys...

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Here is a scanned image of my Box corner, It's in Black and White cause my scanner broke and I had to use an old one from a friend

http://www.deltaforcecommand.org.uk/flashpoint/images/logos.jpg


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YAATAICMFP.


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#557308 - 05/06/01 10:33 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Well it certainly doesn't say 3Dfx on my box, as seems to be the case with everyone elses. Now, taking a close look at that image the 3Dfx logo looks really out of place. Did you sharpen that part of the image to make it stand out because it certainly doesn't look part of the box?

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As far as I'm concerned, that 3Dfx logo looks very faked.

The edges are all aliased, and pixelated, and are not blurred like all the other logos and text are.

Also, if you go and look for products with the 3Dfx logo on them, you find they use this one:



See the lower icon on the left.

Cheers,
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Isn't that waht I said, Manteau? That logo smells fishier than the contents of Baldrick's apple crumble, as the expression goes.

Or Assassin's flight suit, once they've fished him out of the Atlantic. [g]


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#557311 - 05/06/01 10:51 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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HAHAhah!!
GODS!
You couldn't even make the logo TRANSPARENT before you pasted it onto the Box image?

And geez and ages man!

At least run it through a Smooth filter so it would look a LITTLE real.

What an amateurish job!

And to think you actually put your 'real' name on this post.

You've just lost all credibility dude..
You're nothing but a Troll.

Ciao.


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Isn't that waht I said, Manteau? That logo smells fishier than the contents of Baldrick's apple crumble, as the expression goes.

Or Assassin's flight suit, once they've fished him out of the Atlantic. [g]


Fsking ROFL.

I guessed "YAATAICMFP" would mean something like that

That picture really does make me laugh - my 15 year old sister could do a better job of that.

In fact, if I didn't think SAS would do something stupid like use the image towards his rediculous claim, I'd show him how to do it professionally.

Cheers,
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All you people involved in the Nvidia/ voodoo/3dfx, wars over the years look up the word Hubris.

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YAATAICMFP:
You Are A Troll And I Claim My Five Pounds.

Also, there's:
YAAT(OAI)EWICMFP
You Are A Troll (Or An Idiot), Either Way I Claim My Five Pounds.

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#557315 - 05/06/01 11:12 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Excuse me but that is THE REAL BOX as I will use in any legal action I take against Rage and YOU for libel in claiming I faked it.

As stated in my Post The scanner is crap an old one that doesn't show the pic that well you should see some of the Pics I scanned tonight for family, very crap looking

It's pretty obvious that the game won't work on the Voodoo 3 despite what my box, which I am prepard to admit seems to be defective, says. I guess I will take it back and get my money back, though I will never buy a Rage product again.

as for that logo someone else posted I believe that is the old logo and the one on my Box is the newer one, that they used in the few months before there demise, but I could be wrong.

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whatever a troll is I AM NOT ONE, that Is slander, and I will sue.

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Excuse me but that is THE REAL BOX as I will use in any legal action I take against Rage and YOU for libel in claiming I faked it.

As stated in my Post The scanner is crap an old one that doesn't show the pic that well you should see some of the Pics I scanned tonight for family, very crap looking

It's pretty obvious that the game won't work on the Voodoo 3 despite what my box, which I am prepard to admit seems to be defective, says. I guess I will take it back and get my money back, though I will never buy a Rage product again.

as for that logo someone else posted I believe that is the old logo and the one on my Box is the newer one, that they used in the few months before there demise, but I could be wrong.




I'd stop digging yourself into a hole.

I've asked 8 people on IRC what they thought of the image, and without prompting, they said:

"the 3dfx logo was done in mspaint"

"pasted 3dfx logo"

The other logos look nice, so I don't see why that logo would be any different.

Cheers,
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#557318 - 05/06/01 11:20 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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So how do you explain then that the logo looks completely different to the box scan quality? That scanner may be crap but surely it can't selectively scan the same image at different qualities?

Anyone can see that the logo you have shown is not part of the same scan of the box. Maybe we should sue you for false advertising. Unless of course you can give us a perfect explanation as to why it looks so 'dodgy'.

Steve White

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Well gees could it be cause the scanner is crap.
Also I am rubbish at graphics work, I can barely draw a box let alone fake a picture of a box. If Rage send me there contact details then I will gladly send them the box and they can prove you wrong.

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#557320 - 05/06/01 11:26 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Rage Games Ltd,
Martins Bank Building,
Water Street,
Liverpool,
L2 3SP

Incidentally, there should be a code on the back of the box, under the barcode. Could you tell us what it is, please?

On second thoughts, maybe you should send it to Steve Hunt, I'm guessing he's on the development team rather than the publishing team. The developers can be found at:

Rage Games Ltd,
84 Sankey St,
Warrington,
WA1 1SF

There you go, SAS, all the details you need. Send it on, we await this with *great* interest.

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--Well gees could it be cause the scanner is crap.--

If it's selectively scanning the same image at different qualities then I would say it's far from crap - how much do you want for it?

--Also I am rubbish at graphics work, I can barely draw a box...--

You said it mate.

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Rage Games Ltd,
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Incidentally, there should be a code on the back of the box, under the barcode. Could you tell us what it is, please?



i would be happy to if you explain why?

I dont want anything cause it's not mine it belongs to a friend I think it was made in 90 or 91 as there are no new drivers for it that work after 3.11 I had to write them specially for ME/2K for him as a backup scanner.


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The code identifies the packaging type.



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#557324 - 05/06/01 11:34 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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okay it is eftpcboxuk

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Ah, interesting. Mine's EFTPCBOXGB.

Still think that image is a stack of sh!t, though.


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#557326 - 05/06/01 11:43 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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AHHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Saying you are a Troll is Slander!??

ROFLMAO!

Good lords where do you people come from!?

And this line is the killer!
"I admit my box may be defective"
ROFLMAO!

That image, by everyone's experience is a FAKE!

LORD how can you even TRY to defend it!??

It is not even the same logo that 3DFX uses on game boxes!
What website did you copy and paste it from???

Stop talking crap about suing people, because as it is RAGE, AND Nvidia should have you up on charges!
hahahahaha..

but I doubt they'll bother with a:
TROLL!

which is what you are, based on all the evidence and my experience.

Which is why I will now stop responding to you,as should everyone else.
*waves*
Ta ta!

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Ah, interesting. Mine's EFTPCBOXGB.

Still think that image is a stack of sh!t, though.


Mine's EFTPCBOXGB as well...

I still think that image is crap as well...

BTW - SAS - are you any good at writing device drivers, I've been trying to write some for a tape drive, and I haven't had much success - perhaps you could help?

Cheers,
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I've tried my hand at these little device driver shenanigans, and I can tell you, I wouldn't even consider doing it if my box art faking skills weren't up to scratch.

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It's pretty obvious that the game won't work on the Voodoo 3 despite what my box, which I am prepard to admit seems to be defective, says. I guess I will take it back and get my money back, though I will never buy a Rage product again.


Defective as in you printed out a logo you found on the internet and used prit-stick to stick it to the box and then scan it?

My my...

I wonder if there's anywhere that people like you hang out - it could be quite amusing...

Manteau

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> I wonder if there's anywhere that people like you hang out

Think tongue, think mouth.

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I'm sorry but that has got to be the worst attempt at photomontage that I have ever seen!

Personally, I think that the fact that the game does not work on one of the major graphics cards, in current use, *should* have been advertised.

Indeed, anally, one might have a case for arguing an *implicit* claim for compatability to 3dfx. If, someone was tragic enough to make a legal point of this then I suggest the balance would, probably, be in favour of he customer.

However, I am prepared to accept that minor (and temporary) compatability issues with a card that has no official support are not unreasonable.

*BUT* Knowlingly releaseing a product that will not work for a large number of inteded customers (who had a reasonable and genuine beleif that the product was functional) is bordering on deception. Im sure this was not Rage's intent- lets see.

SAS- fiddling about with photoshop/mspaint does not clarify an argument!!

Cheers

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I don't think that any game that has been released in the last three months that require Direct X 8 and makes extensive use of Hardware T&L has run on Voodoo 3s and under without some sort of Artifacts and graphics anomalies.

Most readme.txt files for recent games state some sort of incompatibility with some voodoo chipset or the other.

It really IS time to upgrade guys...



Well thanks , i have a voodoo 5 in the post !

How about some hard evidenc that we 3dfx owners are suffering ??

Becoz we hard done by 3dfx ers are enjoying and playing our games & sims - no problemos thanks !

I own most games bar none - i have no problemos !

The typhoon problem is a lock up bug rather than an easy to dismiss / pontificate upon incompatibility coz the 3dfx card is dead blah blah !

BTW last beta drivers released were feb 2001 - dx8 compatible - oh so dead is the card & support & game problems !

oh how we 3dfx card owning gamers do suffer -give me a break !

IF YOU KNOW NOT OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT - PLEASE BE QUIET !

do you own a 3dfx card ?
are you talking from recent experience ?

would i dare rubbish a nvidia card or gforce card or its game support - NO - becoz i have never owned one , & have NO experience of gaming on these cards !

Thankyou !

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LMAO

That is way too funny.

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Alrighty! To sum it up, "3dfxboy" hates Eurofighter & loves Voodoo 3s. I think we got it already! Ohh yeah, SAS, your an a$$hole, and you can take that to court. "SAS", what a joke! You wouldn't last ten minutes in the company of SAS men, with the attitude you've displayed here. And this is coming from a former US Army Ranger (4 years at 3rd bn, Operation "Just Cause" & a 3 week training exercise with the SAS in Sculthorpe England, 1989)
And to you, Fishbed77, chill out until you get the damn game, why don't you! And stop crying. although, I did laugh out loud when I read this from you: "Steve, you promised me this wouldn't be another "Nations"-style fiasco. Please tell me this still holds true." Funny stuff! Like this is playing out in a soap opera or something! "Please, please! Tell me it isn't true! Please tell me the game will work on my system." Haa, haa! Too funny. Perhaps you should edit that post; it makes you appear effeminate.

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Mine's EFTPCBOXGB as well...

I still think that image is crap as well...

BTW - SAS - are you any good at writing device drivers, I've been trying to write some for a tape drive, and I haven't had much success - perhaps you could help?

Cheers,
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Hang on you slander me, Insult me by claiming I faked a photo (Which for the last time I didn't) and you expect me to help you with writting a device driver, yeah right!

As for the person who said 3DFX doesn't use that logo, I hate to burst you're bubble but Have a look at the Box for Delta Force 3 Land Warrior, I went down to my local store this morning to buy it and gee's whats that logo on the back of the box? Why it's the one on my Typhoon box.

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Hang on you slander me, Insult me by claiming I faked a photo (Which for the last time I didn't) and you expect me to help you with writting a device driver, yeah right!

As for the person who said 3DFX doesn't use that logo, I hate to burst you're bubble but Have a look at the Box for Delta Force 3 Land Warrior, I went down to my local store this morning to buy it and gee's whats that logo on the back of the box? Why it's the one on my Typhoon box.


LOL - ever heard the word "Joke" ?

BTW, how did I "slander" you?

I'm going to give this up now - there's no point continuing IMHO, as it's getting childish.

If you can either prove to me by a realistic photo or the actual box, I will unreservedly apologise to you.

But I have always said "in my opinion that box is faked", so.... You might want to look up what slander means...

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Well thanks , i have a voodoo 5 in the post !

How about some hard evidenc that we 3dfx owners are suffering ??

BTW last beta drivers released were feb 2001 - dx8 compatible - oh so dead is the card & support & game problems !

Thankyou !



Last drivers released by whom?
THere is no 3DFX company to officially develop drivers anymore..so who's making these 'drivers', and what assurance do you have that they will continue to do so? Or that they are fully compatible with the DirectX 8 spec?
Because someone with an email address says so?
Are those drivers Windows 2000 compatible? Will they work with Windows XP?

Secondly, what driver set should a developer making a game use?
The same one you're using...or one that another group brings out?

Here's a quote from Hostile Water's Readme file:"General Note: At the time of writing, 3dfx assets have recently been acquired by nvidia. It is not presently known if there will be further driver updates for any 3dfx Voodoo based products."
Here's one from Typhoon's readme file:
3DFX
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Voodoo 2 - 3DFX has ceased support for DirectX7 Transform and Lighting applications for this card
Voodoo 3 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant
Voodoo 5 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant


Go yourself and check the troubleshooting section on EA.com , Interplay.com , and Infogrames.com arguably three of the larger distributors and see the areas that refer to increasing problems by owners of Voodoo cards with games nowadays. Everything from having to use low resolution textures, to lines across the screen, to artifacts on the screen, to having to turn off graphics features.

How do you support a card without a company behind it to call when you get a problem during development and want to check a certain feature set?

Would you have them call the individual creators of these 'beta' drivers?

You aren't being logical..instead you are speaking from a position of emotion and rank fanaticism.

It absolutely does not make sense for anyone to buy a new 3DFX Voodoo card with the current state of the market today.

And just check one of those recent games you claim to have, and tell me whether there are warnings for owners of graphics cards based on the Voodoo Chipset or not.

I would wager that there are.

You mention "rubbish Nvidia" cards. There are also the ATI Radeon cards, and now the Kyro II 64MB cards to choose from.

Ironically, it was Nvidia that Microsoft worked with to develop DirectX 8's features.

Features which your Voodoo card will never support, but newer cards by Nvidia, 3D Labs, and ATI will.

Expect to see games utilising these new features by the end of the year, and into 2002.

I was deeply disheartened when 3DFX was force to sell, and effectively shut down. But it happened...and now we must all move on.
*solemn look*
You really must get over it, 3DFXBoy.
They're gone.
And they're never coming back...

I honestly don't think you are able to respond rationally to any of this, but I felt I should at least explain my position on the matter.

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Silverswift,
I feel sorry for you. I really do. I believe that human nature is basically good and that people, on the whole, are to be trusted. Obviously, you don't believe this. Apparently, at some point in your life, you were seriously hurt emotionally by someone, and this definitly destroyed your confidence. It also stripped away any trust in people that you had before.
You now feel like faith in a fellow human being is "effiminite," and is something to be mocked.

As I said, I feel sorry for you.


On a lighter note, I am still waiting anxiously for a brand new, shiny Typhoon to land on my doorstep any day now!

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Excuse me but that is THE REAL BOX as I will use in any legal action I take against Rage and YOU for libel in claiming I faked it.


Heh, I already had a good laugh with your preceding post, but the above claim sure made a gloomy Monday appear much better.

Thanks for cheering me up!

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#557340 - 05/07/01 02:12 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Heh, I already had a good laugh with your preceding post, but the above claim sure made a gloomy Monday appear much better.

Thanks for cheering me up!

-Gecko
Those are the typical tactics of a Troll
At least this one seems to know what he/she is doing..and making it humorous

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#557341 - 05/07/01 03:25 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Frankly I think it is appalling the way Rage cant support basic hardware. I cant get this sim to run on my system which is clearly shown as being supported (see link for scan).

http://www.geocities.com/typhoonstuff/boxscan.html


This, for me, is the last straw- I am taking the game staight back and never buying another Rage product.
(Unless they release Chuckie Egg-3dfx)


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#557342 - 05/07/01 03:38 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Yah, I think that it stinks that it don't support the BBC computers!

When does the Amiga version come out!

LOL!

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#557343 - 05/07/01 03:42 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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LOL

ARE u hardcore simmers annoyed by that one little error in the game ?
Cant you see what u are destroying with
you ignorant voice crying out into the public.

3DFX is DEAD EAT THAT BASTA GAME OVER


A little common sense about PCs would help you guys to understand why the one or the other combo WONT work.

Instead of typing nonsense on this board you should UPGRADE your knowledge, followed by your Vidcard. YES BUY a NEW vidcard

For that poor guy waiting for his V5 to arrive in the post:

SEND IT BACK, Dont even open the box !!!

What do you expect ?

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Nobody said that your milk stays fresh for 5 days as indicated on the box when you put in the sun THINK

COMMON SENSE dude..........


3dfx is dead

move on.............

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#557344 - 05/07/01 05:24 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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You know, come to think of it, I was hurt emotionally one time. It was long ago. It was a girl named Jackal, but I digress. You crack me up! Fishbed, your the one of the three guys here who are constantly bitching about the game, but you don't even have your copy yet! While I can understand you being concerned as to whether or not a particular game that you ordered will run on your computer, you are going way overboard. You know, I bought Battle of Britain; damn thing would work good on my system, then I went to Windows Me & a GeForce Ultra and the game wouldn't work at all. I went to the BoB board to complain, and found the guys there to be very helpful. However, I ended up giving up on BoB. But, did I go back and troll the boards, saying what a piece of $hit BoB is? Of course not. I accepted my loss & patiently wait for a patch.
Now, I really don't understand how one game will work on a particular system, that meets it's requirement and another won't. I think that, and bugs are unacceptable. But, accept it we must; it is the nature of the beast. So, knowing that, we, as a paying, gaming community have the option to wait it out -see if the game will meet our personal requirements. I didn't do it with BoB and you didn't do it with ET-T. So sure, I agree, it would be F/Up if EF-T didn't work on your system, and I would like to hold Rage personally responsible, IF they directly advertised that it would work PERFECTLY on VooDoo 3 systems. But, I don't think that is the case. From what I've gathered, they require a card that will do DX7. Now the Voodoo 3 drivers can't do that. So, who's at fault now? You? 3dfx? or Rage? Maybe a little bit of all three. However, I don't think it's Rage's responsibility to tell you that the latest 3dfx drivers don't do DX7. Now, I preordered EF-T also. I did it before I did a whole lot of research (damn knee jerk reactions) Only after I clicked the magic button, did I realize the the cockpit didn't have real-time 3d MFDs. I don't like that. Probably not a game killer for me, considering all things, but it probable would've influenced my purchase decision. So, who's at fault? Me? Rage? Me of course! Now when I get EF-T, and I totally can't live with the MFDs, should I comeback here and bitch to high heaven? Of course not! It is my responsibility as a consumer to educate myself, not the manufacturer. Hell, I can scream out loud and stomp my feet all day on how less than perfect the computer gaming industry is, and so can you. But right now, buggy games are a fact of life and complex software/hardware interactions are far from reliable. So, knowing how crappy this computer gaming can be, and you pre-ordered a game without advance, real world feed back, if the game doesn't work for you, point that angry finger at yourself. But, hey! Since you don't have the game yet, save your bitching till you got something to bitch about!


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#557345 - 05/07/01 05:42 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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a uk politiciAn once said that being questioned by an opposition member was

" like being savaged by a dead sheep ! "

I think i now know how he feels !

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#557346 - 05/08/01 12:27 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Frankly I think it is appalling the way Rage cant support basic hardware. I cant get this sim to run on my system which is clearly shown as being supported (see link for scan).

http://www.geocities.com/typhoonstuff/boxscan.html

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ROFL!!

Oh! Oh! This is TOO RICH!
I'm actually..LOL..tears are in my eyes ..
hahahahahhahaah!

where's this little SAS guy for this one? lol lol!


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#557347 - 05/08/01 01:32 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Woohoo!!! FLAME WAR!

Been awhile. Figured I'd get my digs in before the topic is closed.

You folks gotta listen to SAS. He DID scan his box. You are all wrong and should apologize to him for your doubt.

Of course he grabbed a 3dfx logo off the net, printed it in all it's crappy 72dpi glory and then pasted it onto his box and THEN scanned his box.

Ingenious!

Sucks about the voodoo 3 cards, but think about it guys. Has there EVER been a computer product that lists specific incompatibilities on the box? Nope. Sure would have been nice to know that EECH didn't work with my USB joystick. Sure wasn't printed on the box. Just one example.

... I will admit that it is probably time for folks to update their voodoo 3 cards. But those folks who say update ALL voodoo cards don't realize something.

The voodoo 5 card is THE BEST card on the market right now at doing anti-aliasing, a feature that is a HUGE BENEFIT to flight sims. When and ONLY when a card comes out that does AA better, I will upgrade.

In other words, are you asking me to spend money to DOWNGRADE my card!?!

Are you a bunch of freaking idiots?


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#557348 - 05/08/01 01:38 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Ooohhh Madame!


Dont get in a tiz...

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#557349 - 05/08/01 01:49 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Woohoo!!! FLAME WAR!
The voodoo 5 card is THE BEST card on the market right now at doing anti-aliasing, a feature that is a HUGE BENEFIT to flight sims. When and ONLY when a card comes out that does AA better, I will upgrade.

In other words, are you asking me to spend money to DOWNGRADE my card!?!

Are you a bunch of freaking idiots?



You are incorrect.
The GeForce 3 is the best card on the market now for Antialiasing.
It can do Full screen FSAA 4x4 faster than the Voodoo 5, and it has its own version of Antialiasing..Quincun is it? That is even faster.

So..come again.


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#557350 - 05/08/01 02:01 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Bah!

It came out when? Today? Isn't that what the news page today on SimHQ says?

Is it really better? I need to do some research. Do you have links to reviews?

400 U.S. dollars man. Ouch.

So what you are saying is that the very TOP of the line graphics accelerator.... which became available for most people TODAY.... which costs upwards of $400, MAY be better than the voodoo 5 at antialiasing (doubt that as they haven't had time to incorportate 3dfx technology into new products).

*shrugs* Maybe I'll buy one. Have to check out real world tests. I have doubts about the AA on it though... specially when 4x4 in geforce terms means pure crap.

I don't think most people are suggesting upgrading to geforce 3's though. I think they are most likely suggesting geforce 2's of various flavors.

and so...

What? Spend money to downgrade my card?

What are you? A bunch of freaking idiots?



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#557351 - 05/08/01 02:14 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Bah!

It came out when? Today? Isn't that what the news page today on SimHQ says?

Is it really better? I need to do some research. Do you have links to reviews?

400 U.S. dollars man. Ouch.



IT did not come out today.
A card by a specific manufacturer came out recently.

You stated that the Voodoo 5 was the best card at Anti Aliasing on the market...I informed you that it was not.

You are now quantifying your statement by saying that it is the best card at anti-aliasing within a particular price range.
Fair enough.

As to your notion of 'downgrading' your card, I believe it has already been said several times that there is no more official support for the Voodoo 5.

Therefore, game developers will slowly but surely stop supporting the card in future products.

If you are willing to buy a card now because of its FSAA, knowing full well the risk involved and that you are buying an already obsolete product with questionable driver support in the future, then be my guest.

I ,personally, don't think its a smart idea.



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#557352 - 05/08/01 06:44 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Originally posted by *Hengist*:
lol, 3dfx cards.

enuf said


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Hee hee hee..
indeed.

moaning and groaning that a game recently released does not work with a graphics card that has no vendor support or recent drivers released for it.

This is a "Duuuuh" moment

incredibly the game appears to be non 3dfx compatible

Get used to it dude. This is going to happen more and more, and there's nothing 'incedible' or 'unbelievable' about it.

Oh..and please explain how rebooting will ruin your hard drive?



Uhmmm...wasn't 3dfx still in business when Typhoon was being developed? I believe so.

The fact is that, even now, 3dfx cards have a strong presence. In fact, I just bought a V3 3500TV just so I could capture. All my prior sims work with this card. All my prior sims worked with my other card also, a TNT2. TNT2s are no longer manufacturered, just like V3s, but I'm betting Typhoon works with the TNT2 just fine. Strange marketing concept there.

A 3dfx owner with problems running Typhoon SHOULD post a warning to other 3dfx card owners. Nothing wrong with that at all. It wouldn't have helped my any though, since I already know that Typhoon ain't for me...

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#557353 - 05/08/01 09:20 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Gel, You should read this article before you state the GF3 is the finest FSAA around. http://fullon3d.com/reports/fsaa/ Basically the GF3 uses its old GF2 OGSS Supersampling(Hello banded skies and blurry huds) for it's 2x and 4x and an even older edge antialiasing Multisampling technology for it's oh so sexy Quincunx. Wrong answer Doooooooood!


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#557354 - 05/08/01 09:42 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Nevermind...wrong reply


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#557355 - 05/08/01 10:08 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Voodoo 5 definitely still has the best 4x FSAA on the market, as it uses a nonordered grid, while the GeForce 3 uses an inferior ordered grid supersampling in the usual regimes.

The Quincunx FSAA of the GeForce 2, however, is most likely the best 2x FSAA out today, as it uses a nonordered grid and then shares the samples between the pixels.

Considering the performance hit, my guess is that the newest sims wouldn't use more than 2x FSAA anyway, so one could then say that the GeForce 3 does effectively offer the best FSAA currently.

-Gecko

#557356 - 05/08/01 12:45 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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I thought that this game was essentially finished long before 3DFX went under. I remember some time ago, when we were all wondering what had happened to Typhoon (could be as long as a year ago) I read through the release notes of the Voodoo 3 drivers and found that an some issue relating to Typhoon had been fixed. Clearly Rage were working with 3DFX at the time. Sorry I can't tell you what version it was. I think the release notes were posted seperately from the driver file, so I didn't download it. So if anyone has access to past release notes from 3DFX you might like to search for "Typhoon". This driver version obviously worked with the build of Typhoon that was current at the time.

#557357 - 05/08/01 01:04 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Details of release notes are as follows:
Driver version 1.05.02 beta.
Copy available at:
http://www.gamers-ammo.com/3DFX/VOODOO3/2000-3000/BETA/Beta_Release_Notes_w9x.doc

Drivers also available here (I havn't tried this link and havn't tried this version with Typhoon either).

Clip from section 3.11 of release notes:

3.11 Know Issues Addressed Since Last Official Release
The following issues have been addressed in this release:
Texture Warping in DX7
Texture corruption and z-buffer problems on Eurofighter Typhoon
Rage's Typhoon: Extreme Landscape texture distortion

So 3DFX have worked with Typhoon, or part of it.

Dated 17th August 2000.

#557358 - 05/08/01 01:58 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Details of release notes are as follows:
Driver version 1.05.02 beta.

Copy available at ated 17th August 2000.


I hardly think that a release dated August 2000 is applicable for a game that was released May 2001.

Please..


Also, 3dfxboy's post was a bit more than just "pointing out the game doesn't work with his 3DFX card" don't ya think?
Read it..


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#557359 - 05/08/01 03:24 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Typhoon was "finished" at that time, whatever that means. It has no doubt been tweaked a little since then, but the delay has been due to change of publishers. The fact that these drivers worked with Typhoon at the time might help find the problem.

#557360 - 05/09/01 09:53 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Hello everyone, Let me just say sorry for the trouble that "SAS" Caused, Let me assure you that that person is not me!
In the past month some little twerp has been pretending to be me on a lot of
forums/groups. He also managed to hack my web site recently, I deleted all his crap from the server so the Photo he posted here (And the other crap he used my site for) is no longer there.
I will hopefully catch him/her soon.

Sorry for that crap you had to put up with.

The Real Donald Marshall.



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#557361 - 05/09/01 12:38 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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I hate to burst everyones bubble here but there is definately no 3dfx label on the box as it was removed after 3dfx were contacted by rage about compatability problems with their cards. They were looking into the matter and then they were bought out by Nvidia. A lot of good friends lost their jobs thanks to that little take over. As far as I understand things, there are still some unofficial drivers about on the net as some of the original 3dfx team are looking to set up a company by themselves. The Voodoo 4&5 were rushed out. I know as I did a lot of testing for the Voodoo 5. There unofficial beta drivers before they got took over where there best bet, but there were still major compatability problems. As for the Voodoo 3 it suffered from not being able to support certain colour palletes and resolutions. Since 3dfx's demise I think you will find similar problems arising with later games.

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Wow, siverswift...
You really do have issues.

But the good news is that Rage has found a problem with the HUD code and is issuing a fix for 3dfx users.

Maybe it does help to have faith.

#557363 - 05/09/01 08:12 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Fishbed, if the way you've been going on is "having faith", I'd *hate* to see what happens when you're being doubtful... [g]


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#557364 - 05/10/01 03:28 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Magnet, what does that mean? I don't know what you think, but Steve and Rage should really be commended for pulling through for there customers. They haved really proved their commitment to this sim. Now if they could just get it on US shelves.

#557365 - 05/10/01 06:17 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Donald,

People aren't as stupid as you apparently think they are. The mature thing to do would be to own up to your mistakes and apologize instead of coming up with the laughable excuse that it wasn't you.

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Quote:
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Donald,

People aren't as stupid as you apparently think they are. The mature thing to do would be to own up to your mistakes and apologize instead of coming up with the laughable excuse that it wasn't you.




Think what you want, It is true someone has been impersenating me on forums and groups, If the local police took crinimal acts involving Computers as crinimal acts instead of brushing them off. I would have them investigate it instead of me trying to trace him/her.


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#557367 - 05/10/01 12:13 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Not wanting to stir anything up again, but notice the similarities:

SAS: "Here is a scanned image of my Box corner, It's in Black and White cause my scanner broke and I had to use an old one from a friend"

Donaldmarshall: "Think what you want, It is true someone has been impersenating me on forums and groups, If the local police took crinimal acts involving Computers as crinimal acts instead of brushing them off"

Notice the similarities of the comma, and then the capital letter.

Not accusing you of anything, but if it wasn't for that, I'd believe you were someone else and not SAS.

Manteau

#557368 - 05/10/01 12:31 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Not wanting to stir anything up again, but notice the similarities:

SAS: "Here is a scanned image of my Box corner, It's in Black and White cause my scanner broke and I had to use an old one from a friend"

Donaldmarshall: "Think what you want, It is true someone has been impersenating me on forums and groups, If the local police took crinimal acts involving Computers as crinimal acts instead of brushing them off"

Notice the similarities of the comma, and then the capital letter.

Manteau


MANETEAAUUU!! GO MANTEAAUUUUU!!!
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ROFLMAO!
GO GO GO GO!!
GO MANTEAU!

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excuse me for using the Queen's English properly.

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Quote:
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excuse me for using the Queen's English properly.



Since when has capitalising a word after a comma been grammatically correct?

Maybe the Queen's English you refer to is that spoken by Freddie Mercury (RIP), Brian May , et al.

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Quote:
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excuse me for using the Queen's English properly.


"My husband and I..."

After a comma?? - I don't think so, but I might be wrong; my English isn't exactly the best...

Pity about your spelling:

"impersenating me on forums and groups, If the local police took crinimal acts involving Computers as crinimal acts"

Cheers,
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So you are making fun of the fact that I have a form of Dyslexia you are sad.

Who are Freddie Mercury and Brian May when they are at home?

I have always been taught to always use a capital I If It begins a word or Is on It's own.

I completed English up to Higher Level which I passed with a grade B, may one ask what you're experience of English Is?

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Donald,

if someone is stalking/impersonating you and you want to trace them, contact the SimHQ administrators as all the posts have the IP address logged (see the low right corner of each post). I'm sure they'll be glad to help in such a situation.

-Gecko

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yeah I know sent an email yesterday to them, though it will probelly be fake like the IP on the other forums.
They seem to be using the Renfrew Core for NTL which means they are
a) NTL Customers like myself.
b) Very Good Hackers.

If any one uses NTL they will know that emails to tech support go weeks without answer so I am still waiting on a reply from them to see if they can/will help me.

The IP usually starts 213.107.***.** or is 62.252.128.4 which is the default IP for everyone in Scotland on NTL Cable Modem access like finding a needle in a hay stack if any one has any better Ideas for tracing them I would appreciate it.

Thanks Guys.

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#557375 - 05/10/01 02:57 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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yeah I know sent an email yesterday to them, though it will probelly be fake like the IP on the other forums.
They seem to be using the Renfrew Core for NTL which means they are
a) NTL Customers like myself.
b) Very Good Hackers.

If any one uses NTL they will know that emails to tech support go weeks without answer so I am still waiting on a reply from them to see if they can/will help me.

The IP usually starts 213.107.***.** or is 62.252.128.4 which is the default IP for everyone in Scotland on NTL Cable Modem access like finding a needle in a hay stack if any one has any better Ideas for tracing them I would appreciate it.

Thanks Guys.


If you do find the ip address, you could DNS (domain name lookup) to find out what it is (I presume from your above post you've done this).

Then email the ISP at their abuse email address (usually abuse@) and tell them about it.

They should be able to either stop this happening (banning that person's access to a site, or in extreme cases, they may tell you the person's name, but this is unlikely...

Cheers,
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#557376 - 05/10/01 03:12 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Thanks as I said I had sent the Info to abuse@ntlworld.com but they take months to reply to you

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#557377 - 05/10/01 04:24 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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I have always been taught to always use a capital I If It begins a word or Is on It's own.


I can honestly say I've NEVER heard of that or seen it practiced by anyone. I only thought you went around capitalizing letters left and right in German???

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#557378 - 05/10/01 05:10 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Donald,

Typing idiosyncracies are as distinctive as handwriting.

In standard, conventional English, the first letter of words following a comma, or any other punctuation other than a full stop, is not capitalized. That's basic, elementary school stuff.

Why do you insist on digging even deeper holes for yourself?

#557379 - 05/10/01 05:12 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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LET THE WIND BLOW HIGH

LET THE WIND BLOW LOW

ALL THE LASSIES SAY HELLO

DONALD WHERES YA TROOSERS ?

lol

#557380 - 05/10/01 05:13 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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well I never went to an elementry school, just a primary school, where that is taught as part of the education ciriculum here in Scotland.

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#557381 - 05/10/01 05:31 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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lol


I am glad you think that is so funny, however maybe you should read this
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You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB.

That little post by you Is abusive to me, defamatory and hateful against me, It Is not fun to have that sung at you by smart alec's please retract that statement.

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#557382 - 05/10/01 05:34 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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I am glad you think that is so funny, however maybe you should read this


"knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate"

hmmmmm

Yes...

Cheers,
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#557383 - 05/10/01 05:46 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Donald,

Unfortunately for you, I grew up in Scotland; Largs, on the Firth of Clyde, south of Glasgow. Having first hand experience, I'm very aware of what they teach in Scottish schools.

Since you're clearly going to continue trying to squirm out of any responsibility, this will be my last post on the matter.

I can only hope that you take more responsibility for your actions in real life.


[This message has been edited by Judge (edited 05-10-2001).]

#557384 - 05/10/01 06:08 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Donald,

Unfortunately for you, I grew up in Scotland; Largs, on the Firth of Clyde, south of Glasgow. Having first hand experience, I'm very aware of what they teach in Scottish schools.

Since you're clearly going to continue trying to squirm out of any responsibility, this will be my last post on the matter.

I can only hope that you take more responsibility for your actions in real life.


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Been to Largs alot Nardinis Is nice.

As for the School I never said It was a good school, just that I was taught that way.

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#557385 - 05/10/01 07:21 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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To Admin , can we now have this thread closed please , its kinda rambling on , a bit like me , and going no where fast , also its kinda mutated from its original message , which is now info that has perished , due to the imminent 3dfx fix patch a coming

Maybe we can have alternative sing song threads , or bash scotland coz they hate us brits , or look i faked a card board box , or help aliens are invading my isp , and impersonationg me - threads

or perhaps multi deriatives of said topics !
- joking folks


this topic has had its day - the title that is , can we close and move on , ???
please , thankyou Admin

#557386 - 05/10/01 08:37 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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This is too funny! Fishbed77, let's say the hatchet is buried. I was just giving you $hit. SAS/Donald however, you crack me up!
But, I don't want to make you cry or sue, so I'll just laugh at you privately.

Wolf Killer!: where did you get you moniker('the bloodthirsty, wolf-killing, violent person who aspires to be infinitely good and cant be.') I think I read it as an exert from a poem (or something) in a psychology (could be english, or Film classes also)book(?) when I was in college. I always wanted to read the rest of the poem (or what ever it was, ya got it?
?

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#557387 - 05/10/01 09:24 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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ROFL!

I won my bet!
I made a bet with someone that the Donald who is SAS but not SAS would start to talk about libel and slander ....just like SAS did as soon as people started poking holes and rejecting his crap.

LOL..

so said..so done!

A true Troll!
Donald/SAS/Mary..you should take your act to Usenet..they will really appreciate you there! You will have people in conniptions..you could provide entertainment for MONTHS!

lol


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#557388 - 05/10/01 10:01 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Wolf Killer!: where did you get you moniker


It's from a book - The Vampire Lestat by Anne Rice

regards

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#557389 - 05/10/01 11:21 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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ROFL!
A true Troll!
Donald/SAS/Mary..you should take your act to Usenet..they will really appreciate you there! You will have people in conniptions..you could provide entertainment for MONTHS!

lol


Yeah, they'd pay good money for it as well

I actually love this thread so much I've saved each page of it - it just gets me rolling on the floor laughing

Cheers,
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#557390 - 05/10/01 11:22 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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This has gotta be the funniest thread on this forum

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#557391 - 05/11/01 01:12 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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Think what you want, It is true someone has been impersenating me on forums and groups, If the local police took crinimal acts involving Computers as crinimal acts instead of brushing them off. I would have them investigate it instead of me trying to trace him/her.




Donald, have your local police contact me. If they are willing to open an investigation, per our registration disclosure, we will supply the IP logs for the posts that will allow them to apprehend the individual. Perhaps once "apprehended", the individual could get the psychological help they so obviously need.

I think it is time to let this one go.

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#557392 - 05/11/01 08:45 AM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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Thanks Dan I am trying to get them to open an investigation, but they do not see computer crimes as a high prioity. I have an appointment on Monday with the Chief Superintendant so hopefully then.

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#557393 - 05/11/01 05:38 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  
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In other words you're BSing us and can't open an investigation on yourself.
LOL


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#557394 - 05/17/01 11:37 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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i completely agree.Bad call by rage.shameful.
remember EF2000 running just in dos??

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#557395 - 05/17/01 11:45 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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I wouldve thought,as almost 40% of the gaming population have some version of the 3dfx card installed,he's probly got a decent call.

#557396 - 05/17/01 11:48 PM Re: TYPHOON Warning To USA & worldwide 3dfx owners  

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a very unfunny mail to a very serious problem for a lot of people.

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