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#557135 - 05/05/01 03:12 AM WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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Well to cut a long story short i am too getting the following error , after flying the plane for a few mins , the game freezes , have to reboot the pc - can't even get back to desktop !
this is not doing my pc or hds any good

error is - c:\cvsmil\3dream.win\ etc etc

now that dir does not even exist on my c:drive - im installed on d:\typhoon

im running 500 cpu , 128 ram , dx8 , sb live sfx - 3dfx voodoo 3 pci 2000 gfx !!
dec 2000 whql 3dfx drivers

Andy Bush posted this in another thresd
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Voodoo 2 - 3DFX has ceased support for DirectX7 Transform and Lighting applications for this card
Voodoo 3 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant
Voodoo 5 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant

so what does all this mean are we saying that Typhoon is not 3dfx compatible ??????
- most advertising pics were done on v5 3dfx i believe

voodoo 3 cards are the most numerous with gamers out there !

i checked the credits of the product an extensive testing team existed - and an outside testing company too !

It beggars belief that Rage does not know that this occurs - a voodoo 3 card with dx 8 drivers is not the lost ark of the covenant for gods sake !

All my other games & sims in my extensive collection work fine !

Sorry to be negative but i am sooo angry i have waited for this for years paid my money - for crashes / lock ups - your product is knackering my pc!

Sorry but if this is not fixed quickly over this long weekend here in UK , my copy will be going back to the shop too !

Disgruntled customer and 3dfx boy !

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#557136 - 05/05/01 03:23 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  
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While I can definately understand your dissappointment and frustration, (I still don't know why it so hard for developers for one game to work perfect and another not, on a given system!), I think you should be pointing that angry finger at 3dfx where it belongs, versus Rage. Mind you, I don't have the game yet, but those 3dfx drivers were for crap when they came out, let alone now, when there is no more 3dfx. 3dfx, however great it once was, hasn't gave a damn about customer support since buying the S3 company and going off on their own. And now that they shot themselve square in the head, I don't feel sorry for them. However, it's their loyal customers who ultimately bore the burden. I haven't had a 3dfx card since my dual V2s (had a V1 before that). I saw the writing on the wall when that crappy Banshee/Voodoo 3 came out, and went GeForce.


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#557137 - 05/05/01 03:24 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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just had a thought is this
c:\cvsmil\3dream.win

a developers directory ?

eg is this a set of dev tools on rage machines , not included on shop cd , that the game / 3dfx card is calling too ??

??????????

#557138 - 05/05/01 03:36 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  
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I have the game installed on a PII 266 using a V3 3000. It runs OK. Slow, because of the CPU, but no graphics problems to date.

I let the game install Dx7.

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#557139 - 05/05/01 03:43 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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ok , please how does one deinstall dx8

you cant just back date/over write , other posters have also stated they tried all drivers and all dx's and still having same prob ?

ill give it a go - but i cant rid my pc of dx8 in favour of 7 !!

Help please

#557140 - 05/05/01 03:58 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  
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3dfxboy

I'm no expert on Dx7/8, but you may not be able to 'go back' to Dx7. Maybe someone else in the know can answer.

If not here, try the SimHQ Tech forum...I'm sure you will get a good answer there.

Andy

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mmmmmmmm found my answer here

microsoft quote
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Q. How do I uninstall DirectX?

A. DirectX 8.0a is a system component and cannot be uninstalled. If there is a problem with the DirectX install, it can normally be resolved by shutting down all running applications and reinstalling. As mentioned previously, DirectX 8.0a is fully backward-compatible with titles written for previous versions of DirectX. If you are having other problems after installing DirectX 8, these can often be resolved by installing updated drivers for your display card, audio card, or input device.


so i can't backdate to dx7 , without reinstalling the whole operating system !

And no way am i doing that for one game / sim !

if Typhoon is not back compatible thru DX , and 3dfx v3 stable then frankly its going back to the shop !

Its just not acceptable - i note the read me file with game does not say -

Oh BTW 3dfx owners reformat your hard drive and install DX7 ?????

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Hey Andy Bro , dont get humpy man !

Im posting here in the official Typhoon forum about problems, about trying to fly the flaming thing after i've supported Rage , and purchased their product with my hard earned cash !

Until today - i had never even see it fly , i have now flown it for 2 mins then lock ups - im frustrated ,desperate , tired & pissed off , i'm not a thicky when it comes to games tinkering , patches , editing ,cracks , reg edits etc etc !

But im not Moses man , i can't part the red sea , me and alot of other posters are reporting this game is broke on v3 3dfx , just want a fix , or my money back !

After what i have seen i want to keep this sim and fly it , so excuse my tone , im a little abrasive in view of the above !!


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I agree with 3DFX boy. I too want this sim to work. I've tried everything I can think of, for about 6 hours last night and the only "support" voodoo 3 owners seem to have received is through the read me file ie, that basically, the game won't work with that card. So unless there is a breakthrough by this afternoon, I'm afraid it's going back

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Well, to me it now seems clear that Typhoon doesn't work with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 card, nor will it in the near future, so sadly it's boxed up and on its way back.

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I have a 3dfx Voodoo3 and the demo runs fine. Will the final version then run fine also?

#557146 - 05/05/01 01:46 PM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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Fishbed,

I also have voodoo3 card that worked fine with demo but not with game. So if you want my advice: either wait for a patch or make sure you keep hold of your receipt if you do buy!

I know its been said before but I just cant beleive that DID could ignore 3dfx its got to be one of the more common setups people have.

From the 2 minutes I usually get in the game it looks very promising, which only makes it more annoying really ..rant....rant...rant

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Update on Typhoon and the V3 problem...

I'm joining the crowd. I got 32 minutes into the game (wartime scenario) when the game locked up. I played a co-op scenario and it locked up at about the 5 minute point. Had to reboot both times.

Bummer. Let's hope there is a fix.

Andy

#557148 - 05/05/01 09:08 PM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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THERE DAMN WELL BETTER BE A FIX!!! I JUST DROPPED ABOUT $50 ON PREORDERING THIS SIM THAT WAS ADVERTISED TO WORK WELL WITH 3DFX CARDS!!!!!

Geez, the news just keeps getting worse and worse. I had second thoughts when I ordered this game. I should have listened to my gut.

#557149 - 05/05/01 09:23 PM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  
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Jesus Christ. Give Rage/DID a chance. Either wait for a patch or take it back, but don't sulk at your computers - there are far more important things in life.

I would imagine that Rage realise there is now a problem with 3Dfx and will attempt to sort it out. But for goodness sake stop ranting and raving like a bunch of spoilt brats.

This always happens, with every sim and yet you still erupt like this is the first time this sort of thing has ever happened.

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Andy,

Have you changed cards then? - you've been playing Typhoon for months with no probs - if not, is there anything else that you've changed?

Cheers,

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stevenwhite, If you purchased a car that was advertised to run on petrol, fueled it up with petrol only to have the engine explode because it really ran on diesel fuel, you mean to tell me you wouldn't feel angry and betrayed? Then you have some prick tell you to get over it and just buy a diesel engine at your own expense because nobody drives a petrol-fueled car anymore. Get a life.

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Fishbed - that argument is as old as the hills and I've heard it so many times before. They said it on the B17 forum - on the BoB forum. Games have bugs, drivers have bugs, hardware can be crap.

This is the computer industry, not the automobile industry and if you haven't realised that yet then you need help. Ever since the advent of computers there have been problems of this kind and this will continue.

If you find this situation intolerable then buy a console because it's never going to change. Alernatively, give up computer games altogether and get yourself a Ferrari.

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Fish,

Your right, you should feel angry, but not at us but at your card manufacturer.

Typhoon is DX7 complient - their drivers are not - the responsiblity to update their drivers inline with DX is theirs.

Bet you paid more than 30quid for that card - but how many mails have you sent them?


Not having a go - just trying to show the real picture here.

Steve

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Well Steve, all I can say is that you better change what is listed on your web site, and quickly recall every unit of Typhoon that is shipped thus far, and offer a full refund to each consumer. You should then paste a label on each and every Typhhon box that is placed back on the market clearly indicating that it will not run on 3DFX cards. That is the only ethical thing you can do at this point other than fixing the game. I can give you my address so you can send me the check if you need it.

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I use a V5 5500 and it runs the game with no problems. I use Dx7a.

When these reports started coming in about the V3, I loaded the game on another computer that has the V3 3000 in it just to see what was going on. Initially I did not see any problems, but after letting the game run for a while I did get the same lock ups that others have reported.

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And of course as has been stated before the demo readme clearly states




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Voodoo 2 - 3DFX has ceased support for DirectX7 Transform and Lighting applications for this card
Voodoo 3 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant
Voodoo 5 - Drivers not yet fully DirectX7 compliant



Which I guess should be interpeted as.."We can not guarentee compatibility with these cards"

Hopefully this can be fixed so everyone can be happy.

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Originally posted by stephenwhite:
Jesus Christ. Give Rage/DID a chance. Either wait for a patch or take it back, but don't sulk at your computers - there are far more important things in life.
This always happens, with every sim and yet you still erupt like this is the first time this sort of thing has ever happened.

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Ok so how long do you need then to make a sim compatible with the most popular and widely held video card - 3dfx ???

Was not the development cycle long enough ! ?????

Of course people are upset about this situation - as for getting a life - if you read these forums - people even took days off work / uni / college , sick days etc just to buy this product and fly it !

You have a point , yes this is only a computer game / sim , but NO don't be so naieve or heartless in your condemnation !

Frankly the buying public are NOT any publishers or developers BETA testers !

And YES taking it back for a refund is a real possibility , i'll give it a few days then whammo - back to EB , no threats , just facts , the clock is ticking !

The sim looks great , i want to fly and enjoy it , i can't , i have plenty of other sims / games to play & fly !

I purchased Hostile Waters with Typhoon on the same day , so i like Rage products , liked Incoming alot too , and i intend to buy Incoming Forces !

Funny though that and all my other games run fine with Voodoo3 , DX8 etc !

To Rage , suggest you request a refund from that external testing company you used !!

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... and of course buyers to do not learn this until after they have purchased the game, whose system requirements clearly state that it will work with 3dfx Voodoo3 cards.

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I recently bought Tribes 2 - it states on the box that the minimum system requirement is a PII300 - I have a PII400. But guess what? The game is so slow it's unplayable. So what am I going to do? Am I going to sit on the Tribes 2 forum and whine on and on about how this game is crap and the publisher has commited fraud? No!

I'm going to save up and upgrade my processor because I know that a 400 just doesn't cut the mustard anymore - just like know 3Dfx doesn't cut the mustard anymore.

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Fishbed - it's up to you to make sure your PC hardware and drivers support the game. Did you ever check the 3Dfx site to see if the drivers were compliant? Did you know your card has problems with DirectX?

And my box doesn't mention compatibility with any of the mentioned 3Dfx cards.

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Speaking of which..I want to clarify something. For those who have the game, what are the video card requirements on the box? Does it mention Voodoo3 as supported?

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I recently bought Tribes 2 - it states on the box that the minimum system requirement is a PII300 - I have a PII400. But guess what? The game is so slow it's unplayable. So what am I going to do? Am I going to sit on the Tribes 2 forum and whine on and on about how this game is crap and the publisher has commited fraud? No!

I'm going to save up and upgrade my processor because I know that a 400 just doesn't cut the mustard anymore - just like know 3Dfx doesn't cut the mustard anymore.

Saxon



ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS !!

so voodoo 3/5 is a shit card ?? NOT !!!

and the V5 don't run it either ,
AND ALL THE WEB SITES THAT PR'D typhoon USED v5 PICS ????

If you read these forums , various sims , you will find postS from 3d cards owners with gfx problems , drivers problems , sim instability etc etc

Voodoo - 3dfx owners , post and experience the least problems , becoz the 3dfx cards are so good fast and stable - something TYPHOON appears not to be for the majority !

man you might have once worked for D.I.D , but you are showing yourself up to be a total jerk off !

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Ouroborous (sp) - no, nowhere on the box does the game claim to support any 3dfx product. *NOWHERE*.

The closest it comes is to state that it supports specifically *Creative Labs 3D Blaster Banshee*. That, last time I checked, is not a Voodoo 3 card.


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3DfxBoy - you're missing the point here. It doesn't matter how long the development process is or the testing period - problems with computer games and hardware drivers will always occur. And the fact that your other games work on your 3Dfx card means nothing. I think Steve Hunt has covered that.

All my games work with my TNT2 except for Shogun Total War which I love. But I realise it's a driver issue because this game works fine with older drivers (but other games do not).

But this is the way it's always been and it will never change. Do yourself a favour and get a more uptodate graphics card because it's going to get a lot worse for you 3dfx users.

Don't forget, I also have a 3dfx Voodoo2 card but I realised I needed to get a more modern card quite some time ago. Now I never use the 3Dfx because it's crap in comparison to my TNT2.

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3DfxBoy - I'm a jerk off? Hey, you're the one with the 3Dfx card mate. I'm having great fun with Typhoon. You obviously have some kind of perverse devotion to 3Dfx. Well good luck mate. I used to really like 3Dfx once but PCs constantly evolve and 3Dfx have been left in the dust.

Be a die hard for all I care. Anyone who calls himself 3DfxBoy must have a problem.

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Folks, let's cool down a bit.

We have a problem with this game. We don't need more here on this forum.

What we do need are clearly written posts that are as specific as possible with the nature of the problem. Only in that way are we likely to get to the fix that we all so dearly want.

Andy

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Andy states a couple of posts up that he ran the sim on a V5 without a problem.

And let's not let passions get in the way for a minute. As good as the Voodoo cards might be, at some point you're going to run into a game that won't work on them as long as the drivers at not updated. DirectX will move on to version 9, games will start to use specific DirectX8 calls and you'll still be stuck with old drivers. Is it the game company's fault if their lastest graphic heavy game suddenly doesn't work on your card? And this isn't meant to insult any Voodoo card owners.

Hopefully Rage can make a fix for this and hopefully I don't have any problems running the game on my Geforce2 GTS card. Knock on wood!

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Ouroborous (sp) - no, nowhere on the box does the game claim to support any 3dfx product. *NOWHERE*.

The closest it comes is to state that it supports specifically *Creative Labs 3D Blaster Banshee*. That, last time I checked, is not a Voodoo 3 card.





Thanx Magnet. I guess Rage does not advertise that the game would work with older Voodoo cards.

And yes it should be "Ouroboros", but I found that the nick was already being used with my provider. It can also be spelled "Uroboros" though.

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Steve White , OK SORRY MAN , i withdraw the jerk off comment unreservedly - i got mad , prefer to be adult , so here goes

i have a 3dfx v1 card still in my house , had a v2 , got a v3 now , have sold my v3 3dfx , have a v5 3dfx in post to me now !

Now that aside , the 3dfx v5 card is a simmers card - i read up widely on it before deciding to grab it !

Now we dont all want gforces or nvidia etc etc , and i believe voodoo 5 should run typhoon , see my previous comment !

But c'mon man , even V5 owners here today are posting lock up problems , one guy has not even seen the 3d game engine run !!

As for a lover of 3dfx , hell im proud to be , i have a very large back collection of pc games - and i will always keep both a v1 and a v5 3dfx card in my hands to be able to replay my old classics - sensible i think !

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3DfxBoy, I can understand that you're mad about Typhoon not working on your card. There's nothing worse than waiting for a game, buying it and then rushing home to find it won't work for some reason or another. We've all been there and doubtless it will happen again - perhaps with my TNT2 (eek!).

But be prepared that Typhoon might not work on your V5. Andy says it works fine but the box has no mention of any 3Dfx cards apart from the Banshee. I really hope it does work for you. But it is amazing how often it is that drivers are the problem - believe me, it does happen with my TNT2. In fact, I think NVidia drivers are the worst.

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There seem to be three main potential problem areas:

1. The type of card itself (3dfx).

2. Drivers.

3. Version of Dx (7 or 8).

Or combinations of these. Let's hope we can get to the bottom of this quickly.

Andy

#557172 - 05/05/01 11:27 PM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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Ok I had read the readme that comes with the demo and to me these are the facts:
Problems with ATI cards, with 3dfx cards, with Nvidia, the game does not support these cards:
G100A Productiva
Permedia II
Stealth II G460
SIS 6326

Comeon!!!!!, wich card does this game has no problems with???

Tha fact that I dont understand is why the demo has no problems and now the game does???

For me I dont think it is a VidCard problem, it is the game.

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I use a 3dfx V5 5500, an AWE64 sound card, Win98, and Dx7a.

I have no problems at all.

Andy

#557174 - 05/06/01 12:18 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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Originally posted by Andy Bush:
Hawk

I use a 3dfx V5 5500, an AWE64 sound card, Win98, and Dx7a.

I have no problems at all.

Andy


Andy ,
i have win98 ,
awe64 value sfx ,
dx8 , just downloaded dx8a - gonna try in a few mins ,
voodoo3 2000 pci
and i get lock ups after a few mins while flying !

ill report back on dx8a shortly !

#557175 - 05/06/01 01:05 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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I dont want to rub anyone up the wrong way here. But lets look at this sensibly:


1) The game's "minumum spec" explicity indicates that DirectX-7 compatible graphics cards are sufficient.

2) 3dfx drivers + cards, that have been usable with DirectX7+, have been available for several months.

3) This game does not work on a large number of systems based around 3dfx chipsets

Intuitively, one might suggest that the onus is on Rage to, swiftly, provide compensation (refunds) or remediation (a patch).

But, of course, only an opinion...

#557176 - 05/06/01 01:09 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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well,

As for Direct X

I have now tried every version from 7.00 to 8.1 with no change in the game. Im ahve tried copying various, likely-named-files from the demo from my hard drive. No changes.

Duh. Being a bit of a computer thickie... I reckon that a patch might be required. Hope that someone can help...

Cheers !

#557177 - 05/06/01 03:58 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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V3 guys, have you tried the latest drivers from http://www.x3dfx.com

btw. 3DFX's DX7 drivers have always contained files that are not fully direct draw/3D certified according to the DX setup program, but without knowing if this is the case with nvidia's detonators, I don't know wether this problem can pinned on rage or not.

#557178 - 05/06/01 06:30 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  
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I don't mean to bash cards/card owners here, but let's face it; 3dfx & ALL of it's CARDS & DRIVERS are not current with any new game coming out that requires DX8.X. A hard thing to swallow (spending 300+ for a card that's obsolete less than a year later)I know, but that's just the way it is. If you have a game that requires DX8.X with 3dfx anything, and it runs, consider yourself lucky. GeForce Ultras are coming down to the sub $275 price. A very good card to have. But hell, you can pick up a 64 GTS for under $200 and that card will smoke any Voodoo itself.

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#557179 - 05/06/01 11:54 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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Dudes !! I need help man.

While I have been running that automated-demo for days now I do have one small question.
WILL IT RUN ON MY GEFORCE-CARD ?????
If not I will go seriously go InSAnE
!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!
!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!!

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#557180 - 05/06/01 12:03 PM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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Dudes !! I need help man.
While I have been running that automated-demo for days now I do have one small question.
WILL IT RUN ON MY GEFORCE-CARD ?????
If not I will go seriously go InSAnE
!!!!! !!!!! !!!!!
!!!!! !!!!! !!!!! !!!!!

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-=== Oh my god! was that you going down there in flames ?? ===-

#557181 - 05/06/01 01:08 PM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  
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V3 guys, have you tried the latest drivers from http://www.x3dfx.com


Thanks for this -- it seems to have helped some of the problems, but not all. Unfortunately they're not going to be updating their drivers any more either, which is a bit of a bummer!


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#557182 - 05/06/01 08:55 PM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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The sad thing in all this is that I shouldn't have to run all over creation trying to find out whether the sim will run on my machine. I just ordered from the UK, and so I'm afraid I won't be able to just easily take it back.

Are these games being written only for the initiated and those who have time to scour the web, look for readme's, etc. to see if it will work?

Maybe the readme does warn off 3dfx card owners. However, it seems more fair to me to clearly indicate in the add copy or on your website in a prominent place that it won't necessarily run on a Voodoo 3. It's certainly not an obscure card, and this problem certainly could have been aniticpated.

I'm very disappointed as I loved EF2000 and TAW and was really looking forward to this one.

Ken

#557183 - 05/06/01 10:41 PM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  
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KenP, unfortunately that's life for PC users. If you want to get the most from a computer you need to learn about it. It's not my personal opinion, it's a fact of life. Driver changes, hardware changes, bugged games (not that I think EFT is bugged) and plenty of reading up on the Internet is par for the course.

Get a new card mate. You'll be glad you did. And you don't have to be rich to get a better card.

Stephen White

#557184 - 05/07/01 04:44 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  

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Oh, are you going to pay for it stevenwhite? That's great!! I would like one of those "cheap" $300 Geforce Ultras! Heck, would you just go ahead and bring it to my house and intall it for me too? That would be great!!

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Oh, are you going to pay for it stevenwhite? That's great!! I would like one of those "cheap" $300 Geforce Ultras! Heck, would you just go ahead and bring it to my house and intall it for me too? That would be great!!

#557186 - 05/07/01 06:16 AM Re: WTF - 3dfx Voodoo 3 don't work ???  
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You know, Fishbed77, since you haven't even received your copy yet, perhaps you should take a chill. The world might turn for you yet.

And you, "3dfxBoy," we got it already; you hate Eurofighter and love Voodoo 3s.

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