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#556193 - 04/05/01 04:05 AM Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Well I must say I haven`t been following this topic much. Is the sim going to be worth it? Or should I pass? Is there anything Hard core about it?

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#556194 - 04/05/01 08:32 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Define "hardcore." If you mean ala F4 or F2 or JF-18, no, it's not. This one seems to be between them and IAF/USAF...a good starter sim for people just getting into simming, or for those of us who don't have 2-3 hours/day to devote to flight sims.
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#556195 - 04/05/01 10:12 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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hardcore=

An Hardcore simmer is someone

That HAS to play 1 hour per day (actually per night)

That is totally addicted to sims

That fights (often) with his wife for his addiction (read also Peter Pan Syndrome)

That sneaks copies of new sims in his pocket as if they were just demos

Tthat risks his career checking this website ( and Combatsim.com before ) every 15 minutes

That thinks he is flying a jet even when he is just commuting

That stays in formation while walks, checking six for threats

That says "closing up" when gets close to the one he is walking with.

That writes this kind of crap and chucles by himself

#556196 - 04/05/01 11:04 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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lol, one of the best descriptions I've read

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#556197 - 04/05/01 11:06 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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To Dot,

I woud`nt know how to respond to your comments. They are either a complete joke or the most adolecent comments I have ever seen! I should have trusted my instincts on this one.....what a waste of time!

To jedimaster,

I`ll define my definition of HC. Is there "depth" not lunacy to this sim. I think you have answered my question....Thanks

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#556198 - 04/05/01 11:12 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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To Dot,

After thinking over what I just posted I may have miss understood your comments or joke. If so then I wish to apologize for being so harsh....sorry....Cheers.

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#556199 - 04/06/01 04:21 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Never take life or sims too seriously. No problem, I was just in a good mood but I was not joking about what an Hardcore simmers is

Seriously.
I fly mainly F/A-18 (read only) I just upgraded my sys and now I can admire the flying beast in all his beauty. I don't think that Typhoon is intended as an Hardcore or study simulation like F18 or Falcon just to name the most recent ones, I feel it will be something in bethween EF2000(DID) and USAF(Jane'S).
Now you can engage a discussion with Andy or Steve on the definition of Hardcore but I guess that everyone in this MB has his own idea of Hardcore sim.
To me is something thet is "as real as it gets" with a little more fantasy than the reality, since I can't fly for 3 hours hoping to detect one contact 100 miles away, as is in the real life probably.

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#556200 - 04/06/01 05:03 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Good question...and one that we've covered in detail in other posts.

If 'hardcore' means a game like F4 or JF/A-18, then Typhoon is not it. If 'hardcore' means a game that the player has to put some thought into, then Typhoon is.

Typhoon is not invested with the heavy avionics detail found in some other games. Typhoon's avionics is somewhat simplified in appearance and operation...but the interpretation and use of Typhoon's avionics is just as involved as any other game.

Much of the RL Eurofighter's avionics operation is automated...the RL Eurofighter is not set up like a F-16 or F/A-18 and, therefore, a direct comparison can be problematic.

So it is with Typhoon. A direct comparison to F4 misses the point. As we have said before, it's the apples and oranges thing!

Additionally, Typhoon's developers feel that there is a sizable gaming audience that has turned away from air combat games because the things have gotten too focused on dials and widgets. So do Leon and I. We are happy to see a game that has every bit of the intensity of a F4 type of game without the complexity.

Ultimately, it will be up to the individual.

Andy

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Hmmm....Sounds good in some ways I guess. The thought of actually flying and coordinating wingies without the overtaxing burden of avionics sounds appealing actually.
If it works and flows along with the addition of "Dynamic Campaign" then how can it go wrong?....Cheers.

One thing I did enjoy with EF 2000 was the ability to attack other airbases as they were scrambling. This feature was never repeated to my "iffy" recollection.
Will this be implemented in Typhoon?

Boxcar

#556202 - 04/07/01 01:11 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Even Hardcore sims allow you to dumb down the avionics to suit your level of skill.

Why not give Typhoon the same option (perhaps as an add-onn or a new development)... Power to the people? I'd pay for it.

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#556203 - 04/08/01 03:08 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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well, i've done it to m in falcon4 many a time, jumping them roosskies just as they were taking to the air
another sim that allows such scenes of destruction is flanker2 though that's all scripted

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#556204 - 04/09/01 01:44 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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>>One thing I did enjoy with EF 2000 was the ability to attack other airbases as they were scrambling. This feature was never repeated to my "iffy" recollection.
Will this be implemented in Typhoon?<<

I don't know...but it sounds like a fun time.

Leon has done more of this flying than I. I'll ask him.

Andy

#556205 - 04/10/01 01:43 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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One thing I did enjoy with EF 2000 was the ability to attack other airbases as they were scrambling. This feature was never repeated to my "iffy" recollection.
Will this be implemented in Typhoon?
Boxcar


Hi Boxcar,

So far most of my airfield strikes have been conducted from maximum range, followed by roll out and a fast and low egress. As yet I haven't seen any aircraft rolling down the runway during my attacks, but I haven't been looking for it. During the one interdiction mission I flew where I was specifically tasked with the destruction of aircraft on the ground, they were relatively tightly parked and none of them scrambled.

That's an interesting question though, so I'll fly a few suicide missions and see if I can check it out for you. Will be tomorrow now.

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#556206 - 04/10/01 11:30 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Quote:
Originally posted by Boxcar:
One thing I did enjoy with EF 2000 was the ability to attack other airbases as they were scrambling. This feature was never repeated to my "iffy" recollection.
Will this be implemented in Typhoon?
Boxcar


Yep, the enemy fighters will scramble when you approach their airbase. However, you may not see it every time for a number of reasons. Firstly, the degree of airfield activity varies during the course of battle. Shortly after the initial invasion they are hectic as fighters are ferried in and are literally queuing up in the landing pattern.

Also, the fighters at a particular airfield may be already airborne, and there is approximately a 20 minute turnaround time between sorties for refuelling and rearming. So if you attack an airfield in that time the fighters will not be able to take off. Due to the intensity of the battle for Iceland, and the greater activity or sortie rate, there is probably a slightly lower probability of catching fighters with their pants down... But it still happens!

I recently caught several TU-22 bombers in their landing patter deep inside enemy territory. I think they may have just arrived in the theatre and I decided it was worth the risk to take them out now, rather than wait until they were inbound, fully loaded with bombs and a strong fighter escort. It paid off!

Hope that answers your questions.


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#556207 - 04/11/01 03:33 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Just a question Andy, maybe this has been answered before:

Is there a virtual cockpit, or is there just set views? I know there's the padlock view which I love.

Also, while in the padlock view, is there an arrow pointing to the HUD?

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Just a question Andy, maybe this has been answered before:

Is there a virtual cockpit, or is there just set views? I know there's the padlock view which I love.

Also, while in the padlock view, is there an arrow pointing to the HUD?


I believe the cockpit is virtual just like the one in TAW was. Except of course for the difference in how the MFDs work.

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#556209 - 04/11/01 11:13 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Just a question Andy, maybe this has been answered before:

Is there a virtual cockpit, or is there just set views? I know there's the padlock view which I love.


Yep, the same virtual cockpit we are all familiar with from EF2000 and F22.

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Also, while in the padlock view, is there an arrow pointing to the HUD?


Not arrows, but there reflections and markers on the canopy that help you to maintain your spatial orientation.

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Cool description! I posted a thread somewhere recently asking if they could do us an alternative message board that looked just like an email or spreadsheet so I can check it all day long and not get the boss on my case...


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