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#556193 - 04/05/01 04:05 AM Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Well I must say I haven`t been following this topic much. Is the sim going to be worth it? Or should I pass? Is there anything Hard core about it?

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#556194 - 04/05/01 08:32 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Define "hardcore." If you mean ala F4 or F2 or JF-18, no, it's not. This one seems to be between them and IAF/USAF...a good starter sim for people just getting into simming, or for those of us who don't have 2-3 hours/day to devote to flight sims.
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#556195 - 04/05/01 10:12 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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hardcore=

An Hardcore simmer is someone

That HAS to play 1 hour per day (actually per night)

That is totally addicted to sims

That fights (often) with his wife for his addiction (read also Peter Pan Syndrome)

That sneaks copies of new sims in his pocket as if they were just demos

Tthat risks his career checking this website ( and Combatsim.com before ) every 15 minutes

That thinks he is flying a jet even when he is just commuting

That stays in formation while walks, checking six for threats

That says "closing up" when gets close to the one he is walking with.

That writes this kind of crap and chucles by himself

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lol, one of the best descriptions I've read

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To Dot,

I woud`nt know how to respond to your comments. They are either a complete joke or the most adolecent comments I have ever seen! I should have trusted my instincts on this one.....what a waste of time!

To jedimaster,

I`ll define my definition of HC. Is there "depth" not lunacy to this sim. I think you have answered my question....Thanks

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To Dot,

After thinking over what I just posted I may have miss understood your comments or joke. If so then I wish to apologize for being so harsh....sorry....Cheers.

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#556199 - 04/06/01 04:21 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Never take life or sims too seriously. No problem, I was just in a good mood but I was not joking about what an Hardcore simmers is

Seriously.
I fly mainly F/A-18 (read only) I just upgraded my sys and now I can admire the flying beast in all his beauty. I don't think that Typhoon is intended as an Hardcore or study simulation like F18 or Falcon just to name the most recent ones, I feel it will be something in bethween EF2000(DID) and USAF(Jane'S).
Now you can engage a discussion with Andy or Steve on the definition of Hardcore but I guess that everyone in this MB has his own idea of Hardcore sim.
To me is something thet is "as real as it gets" with a little more fantasy than the reality, since I can't fly for 3 hours hoping to detect one contact 100 miles away, as is in the real life probably.

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Good question...and one that we've covered in detail in other posts.

If 'hardcore' means a game like F4 or JF/A-18, then Typhoon is not it. If 'hardcore' means a game that the player has to put some thought into, then Typhoon is.

Typhoon is not invested with the heavy avionics detail found in some other games. Typhoon's avionics is somewhat simplified in appearance and operation...but the interpretation and use of Typhoon's avionics is just as involved as any other game.

Much of the RL Eurofighter's avionics operation is automated...the RL Eurofighter is not set up like a F-16 or F/A-18 and, therefore, a direct comparison can be problematic.

So it is with Typhoon. A direct comparison to F4 misses the point. As we have said before, it's the apples and oranges thing!

Additionally, Typhoon's developers feel that there is a sizable gaming audience that has turned away from air combat games because the things have gotten too focused on dials and widgets. So do Leon and I. We are happy to see a game that has every bit of the intensity of a F4 type of game without the complexity.

Ultimately, it will be up to the individual.

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Hmmm....Sounds good in some ways I guess. The thought of actually flying and coordinating wingies without the overtaxing burden of avionics sounds appealing actually.
If it works and flows along with the addition of "Dynamic Campaign" then how can it go wrong?....Cheers.

One thing I did enjoy with EF 2000 was the ability to attack other airbases as they were scrambling. This feature was never repeated to my "iffy" recollection.
Will this be implemented in Typhoon?

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Even Hardcore sims allow you to dumb down the avionics to suit your level of skill.

Why not give Typhoon the same option (perhaps as an add-onn or a new development)... Power to the people? I'd pay for it.

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#556203 - 04/08/01 03:08 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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well, i've done it to m in falcon4 many a time, jumping them roosskies just as they were taking to the air
another sim that allows such scenes of destruction is flanker2 though that's all scripted

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#556204 - 04/09/01 01:44 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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>>One thing I did enjoy with EF 2000 was the ability to attack other airbases as they were scrambling. This feature was never repeated to my "iffy" recollection.
Will this be implemented in Typhoon?<<

I don't know...but it sounds like a fun time.

Leon has done more of this flying than I. I'll ask him.

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One thing I did enjoy with EF 2000 was the ability to attack other airbases as they were scrambling. This feature was never repeated to my "iffy" recollection.
Will this be implemented in Typhoon?
Boxcar


Hi Boxcar,

So far most of my airfield strikes have been conducted from maximum range, followed by roll out and a fast and low egress. As yet I haven't seen any aircraft rolling down the runway during my attacks, but I haven't been looking for it. During the one interdiction mission I flew where I was specifically tasked with the destruction of aircraft on the ground, they were relatively tightly parked and none of them scrambled.

That's an interesting question though, so I'll fly a few suicide missions and see if I can check it out for you. Will be tomorrow now.

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One thing I did enjoy with EF 2000 was the ability to attack other airbases as they were scrambling. This feature was never repeated to my "iffy" recollection.
Will this be implemented in Typhoon?
Boxcar


Yep, the enemy fighters will scramble when you approach their airbase. However, you may not see it every time for a number of reasons. Firstly, the degree of airfield activity varies during the course of battle. Shortly after the initial invasion they are hectic as fighters are ferried in and are literally queuing up in the landing pattern.

Also, the fighters at a particular airfield may be already airborne, and there is approximately a 20 minute turnaround time between sorties for refuelling and rearming. So if you attack an airfield in that time the fighters will not be able to take off. Due to the intensity of the battle for Iceland, and the greater activity or sortie rate, there is probably a slightly lower probability of catching fighters with their pants down... But it still happens!

I recently caught several TU-22 bombers in their landing patter deep inside enemy territory. I think they may have just arrived in the theatre and I decided it was worth the risk to take them out now, rather than wait until they were inbound, fully loaded with bombs and a strong fighter escort. It paid off!

Hope that answers your questions.


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#556207 - 04/11/01 03:33 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Just a question Andy, maybe this has been answered before:

Is there a virtual cockpit, or is there just set views? I know there's the padlock view which I love.

Also, while in the padlock view, is there an arrow pointing to the HUD?

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Just a question Andy, maybe this has been answered before:

Is there a virtual cockpit, or is there just set views? I know there's the padlock view which I love.

Also, while in the padlock view, is there an arrow pointing to the HUD?


I believe the cockpit is virtual just like the one in TAW was. Except of course for the difference in how the MFDs work.

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Just a question Andy, maybe this has been answered before:

Is there a virtual cockpit, or is there just set views? I know there's the padlock view which I love.


Yep, the same virtual cockpit we are all familiar with from EF2000 and F22.

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Also, while in the padlock view, is there an arrow pointing to the HUD?


Not arrows, but there reflections and markers on the canopy that help you to maintain your spatial orientation.

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Cool description! I posted a thread somewhere recently asking if they could do us an alternative message board that looked just like an email or spreadsheet so I can check it all day long and not get the boss on my case...


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LOL !!!

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Hi Dot!

I thought it was fun writing that as well.

Shame it appears to be in the wrong thread now! I meant to reply to a post by Anna, but I think I booboo'ed somewhere...

Might be that I have multiple topics open...

Oh well.

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Arlki
I enjoyed your post ! I was just joking!
I thought it was fun that after such a huge post you end up saying "so I can't say too much."



Anna is being picky in my opinion, we already have very deep study sims like F/A-18, Falcon and Flanker, so there's plenty of meat for HC simmers.
I think I'll enjoy a break with a simpler sim like Typhoon, and after all DID has done a very good job in the past.

Anna, If you always enjoyed DID sims, that are NOT study sims (you don't want to compare TAW and F/A-18, right?) I don't think you will be that much disappointed by Typhoon

let's wait the final game before judging.


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F19 Stealth Fighter- A lifetime
TFX- thousand of hours
EF 2000- A lifetime
F 22- thousand of hours
TAW- a Lifetime
Falcon- thousand of hours
F/A-18- a lifetime, currently my addiction
Flanker- 2.5 learning.
F 15- learning

I alwaysliked DID's sims because they were generally simple and..innovative, I won't expect Typhoon to be so much different!

Enjoy!

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Yep, the same virtual cockpit we are all familiar with from EF2000 and F22.


Leon, better qualify that. A lot of new posters don't know that the cockpit's static with non-working MFDs. It's NOT the same as TAW and EF2k. Some virtual pilots (self included) really hate that, and it's figuring into a "buy-not buy" decision (though for me, the inclusion of women is tilting the balance toward "buy" despite the fact I hate the cockpit with a burning purple passion).

The F1 handycam view is the same, with the popup MFDs. Folks need to be reminded of that-if they go in expecting IL-2/Flanker 2.0/or even USAF level cockpit detail they WILL be disppointed. Think Fighters Anthology on the cockpit, folks. If you're cool with that you won't be disappointed with Typhoon's cockpit.

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Leon, better qualify that. Miao, Cat


Yep, sorry, I was referring to the virtual cockpit as a viewing system, not the instrument panel.

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Just to be akward...

An EF2000 style cockpit would be on my wishlist for any sequel/add-ons for Typhoon.

Secondly, bad boy, have you read Total War 2006? Its by Simon Pearson. It was written as a thesis on air power, but its kinda entertaining too. It features some cool Typhoon action in it.

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Secondly, bad boy, have you read Total War 2006? Its by Simon Pearson. It was written as a thesis on air power, but its kinda entertaining too. It features some cool Typhoon action in it.
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Thanks, that sound interesting, but I can't find it at Amazon.com. Do you have an ISBN or know where I can get a copy on the net?

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Yep, the same virtual cockpit we are all familiar with from EF2000 and F22.


Leon, better qualify that. A lot of new posters don't know that the cockpit's static with non-working MFDs. It's NOT the same as TAW and EF2k. Some virtual pilots (self included) really hate that, and it's figuring into a "buy-not buy" decision (though for me, the inclusion of women is tilting the balance toward "buy" despite the fact I hate the cockpit with a burning purple passion).

The F1 handycam view is the same, with the popup MFDs. Folks need to be reminded of that-if they go in expecting IL-2/Flanker 2.0/or even USAF level cockpit detail they WILL be disppointed. Think Fighters Anthology on the cockpit, folks. If you're cool with that you won't be disappointed with Typhoon's cockpit.

Miao, Cat


Of course more often than not that's way way I'm sure most people flew TAW; with the full HUD view and the pop-up MFDs. The ONLY thing keeping you from flying like that all the time was the those pop-up MFDs did not provide all the info that the cockpit display did. Now they do.

If the rest of the game is good, I can't see how this a "buy or not buy "issue. But then that's just me.

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Of course more often than not that's way way I'm sure most people flew TAW; with the full HUD view and the pop-up MFDs.


Not moi. Not ever. That's too much like flying a Handycam for me. I rather like the "K" wide screen view, myself. I'd doubt that "most" people flew the Handycam view. If the producers are banking on that premise in their design decision they might be in for a rude awakening.

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Hi Cat!

Umm... I flew handycam style.

Handycam normal width for dogfights, handycam widescreen for BVR combat. (Especially against multiple targets.)

Still got shot down lots of times though.

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Hi Dot!

Glad someone got to read that post.

Not sure whether I should be happy or sad that it didn't even warrant a "content removed". Took me a long time to write that... Wonder if it would have taken an admin bod as long to email me a reason why, especially as none of my own content was worthy of censorship.

Guess I know how a troll feels now.

Oh well.

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Sorry Cat, but I flew handy cam too. You get to see so much more that way, and it's a hell of a lot easier to land in that view!

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Okay, okay. Everyone but me flies without the cockpit.

Miao, Cat
(going back to more detailed sims)


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Okay, okay. Everyone but me flies without the cockpit.

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Hey sometimes you got to fly without the cockpit. It's a game being played on 17 to 19 inch screens; we're allowed

But really my point applies to the cockpit view as well. The pop-up MFDs keep you from having to pan down for information, or going to a full screen MFD; and taking your eyes away from the action in the process.

Heck I'm betting that in the real world it will go in that direction as well. The MFDs will be projected on the pilot's visor at some point along with the standard look down MFDs

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To Badboy,Dot and Andy,

Thank You for adressing my questions. I appreciate the info. I haven`t been following Typhoon much and was a great supporter of Ef2000......dearly missed. The more I hear about this sim the more interested I become.
I love the "Dynamic Campaign" and hope Typhoon pulls it off....Cheers.


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Hey, as a matter of fact, the real Eurofighter has the IRST projected onto the HUD as well as the helmet as an overlay. That way you can 'see' outside the cockpit even when it's night time!

Not sure about the projecting of mfds onto the HUD ,but maybe the helmet.

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I flew the handy-cam view as well

I had to, otherwise my FPS would plummet on my older computer.

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@ EF2K crazy:
In real EF2000 (german version)all important Data will be projected at the HMD (Helmet mounted Device),so the pilot do not need to look down at some MFDs.
Especially the ASRAAM Missile can be locked on a target and fired using only the HMD, not the HUD! (Same function we had in good ol EF2000 !) The MIG 29 from the former NVA , now in the german "Luftwaffe"do have a russion system mounted, which works similar,but without the Nightvision etc...
(As i ve been told from a german MIG29 pilot some years ago. )

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Imagine flying a real jet... to look at the MFD's you flip a hat switch and the panel lifts up in front of your nose, completely obscuring your view. Great for SA!

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I know about the symbology in the HMS, but just not sure about MFD overlay in the HMS.

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Imagine flying a real jet... to look at the MFD's you flip a hat switch and the panel lifts up in front of your nose, completely obscuring your view. Great for SA!


I don't think it would be anywhere near as bad as you make it out.

1. The projected MFD info would not have to be so big as to obscure your view. Besides you'd only project those that were absolutely needed.

2. It wouldn't have the solid black background that the CRT MFD has. Even if they were projected as 5x5 inch squares, that would be pretty small compared to your field of view. Plus they'd probably be transparent. Except perhaps the IRST.

3. The projected MFDs (a long with the projected HUD symbology) would be giving you info about what's "out there" enhancing your SA. They're not going to be showing porn or something else distracting.

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I don't fly with the handycam view. Cat and myself had this same conversation some time back when she did a preview for Typhoon.

I'm a sucker for buttons. I loved the various settings for the autopilot, the procedure to deliver LGB's etc. I'm currently having a blast with eFalcon 109 with the added panels, and nearly 28 steps before one can start taxying. That is my idea of fun. Managing the aircraft whilst maintaining situational awareness is a real challenge, and pays off after a succesfull mission.

I will be playing Typhoon for the campaign, which sounds quite good. Still the number one item on my wish list would be the ability to set bombing modes, so that I can rush up to a target at tree top height, get into a 20-30 degree climb, roll inverted, pull the nose to the ground, roll upright, line up with target and release two Mk 84's with a single pickle. Break away hard, hit the deck, chasing the ep. Currently, a single pickle will release a single weapon, and I hope this can be addressed in a patch later on.

Otherwise Typhoon may be a refreshing change, I'm looking forward to it.

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Just goes to show each to his own im a serious aviation enthusiast (why else would i hang about here?) but things like pre-flight checklists and miscellanious functions dont insterest me much. When i installed eF4 1.09 last week i looked at the new instruction panels and thought "nice panels" then went back to cockpit-less view and virtual cockpit.

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I agree with your desire to fly a 'realistic' weapons delivery. I'd like to do it too.

But, the simple fact is that no sim is going to that degree in replicating the real world of A2G.

Not that it can't be done...the computations are not that difficult. But, it isn't going to happen...not in Typhoon or anything else.

My view is that only a very small number of simmers would be interested (or academically capable) of getting into advanced weapons delivery techniques. I don't mean that as being negative to anyone...but math is math...and if we have simmers in our group that have not gotten that far in school, then it is unrealistic to expect them to grasp the math concepts involved in these events.

Add to that the required precise navigation (and the fact that sims do not provide this) and we have a problem that we cannot duplicate in our sims.

My feeling still remains that if we cannot realistically expect simmers to be able to fly a real world maneuver, then we should not make such an event the benchmark of our 'want' list in a new sim or game.

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Yeah, I played EF2000 before and the MFD overlay worked very well and didn't obstruct you.

Just curious to know will these two pretty features from EF2000 still be in Typhoon:

1. Exhausted gas effect

remember when you hit afterburner in EF2000 you really can feel the hot gas coming out from the nozzle? I admit that may be due to at that time the technology of alhpa-blending and translucent effect is not mature, but the exhaust gas was cool and realistic.

2. Pilot "eject to death"

When you fly close to the ground, invert your
multi-millions plane and eject, the pilot (you) will hit the ground directly. And you will hear him moan and a splash of blood seem when he hit the ground. (Don't believe me? Try load up your old EF2000 and try out!)

But I'm not very optimistic seeing these in Typhoon.

#556237 - 04/23/01 03:54 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Does Typhoon have a similiar external switching padlock like Mig Alley. I love the foresaid feature because I feel it simulates the best SA for the limitations of the Monitor....Cheers.

Boxcar

#556238 - 04/23/01 04:31 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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You are right...I don't think you'll see this in the game!

Boxcar

Typhoon has three padlocks...target, threat, and wingman. Each has both an internal and external view. The external is a traditional 'player-to-target' view and is an excellent aid in three dimensional maneuvering.

The padlocks toggle between the internal and external perspectives. For example, press the F2 key once and you get the internal target padlock. Press it a second time and you get the external view.

Andy

[This message has been edited by Andy Bush (edited 04-22-2001).]

#556239 - 04/23/01 05:45 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Originally posted by -Hotdog-:
I don't fly with the handycam view. Cat and myself had this same conversation some time back when she did a preview for Typhoon.

I'm a sucker for buttons. I loved the various settings for the autopilot, the procedure to deliver LGB's etc. I'm currently having a blast with eFalcon 109 with the added panels, and nearly 28 steps before one can start taxying. That is my idea of fun. Managing the aircraft whilst maintaining situational awareness is a real challenge, and pays off after a succesfull mission.



Damn..28 steps?! Sounds like fun..not!

Funny thing though, I'm sure that REAL pilots probably would love if their workload was reduced. I'm sure they didn't get into flying for the 28 steps required before taxing. Thankfully in the real world the trend it toward less button pushing I'm sure.

#556240 - 04/23/01 07:13 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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;-)

I have been playing with EFalcon, but i always start on the runway or taxiway. Staying the hell away from the start up sequence. That looks scary.

Andy is right - even the smartest people don't want to be worrying about the academic calculations. I have an IQ of oh... someplace around 145, but never, ever, ask me to start working out maths. Cos i suck at maths. Badly. I am a math dunce. Stephen Hawking kicks sand in my face.

I think the benchmark for complexity should be where 109 is now... and no further should it go. Well not much further. Well not unless its for something cool.

The Typhoon is meant, after all, to be a far simpler bird to fly. The cockpit automation is far in advance of anything else currently in the sky.

That being said, I would like to see, at some time in the future, Typhoon developing to the same sort of standards of complexity that EF2000 displayed...

Gavin

#556241 - 04/25/01 08:16 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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O.K., Andy thanks. I sort of liked MA/BoB`s automatic feature.....but oh well I`ll settle...Cheers.

Boxcar

#556242 - 04/25/01 10:22 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Uroboros, what I was describing is what you see on the screen when you pan down in a virtual cockpit. This is my justification for using a HUD only view. I'm quite happy with Rage's approach personally. Actually, the real reason I prefer HUD only is that I think it gives the best sensation of flight, especially at low altitudes, and is the most enjoyable for me (which is what it's all about as far as I am concerned).

#556243 - 04/25/01 10:51 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Uroboros, what I was describing is what you see on the screen when you pan down in a virtual cockpit. This is my justification for using a HUD only view. I'm quite happy with Rage's approach personally. Actually, the real reason I prefer HUD only is that I think it gives the best sensation of flight, especially at low altitudes, and is the most enjoyable for me (which is what it's all about as far as I am concerned).



Ahh..I see what you are saying. Had to go back and look at what you said though.

But I have no problem with the HUD only view at all. I flew TAW that way a lot myself. Truth is Typhoon lends itself to flying that way all the time since the floating MFDs in Typhoon provide more info than they did in TAW. (one of the main reasons to panning down in TAW and look at the cockpit MFDs)

Now it is cool that DID still lets us pan the cockpit around though when it's on. It was always silky smooth panning around in TAW.

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