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#556213 - 04/11/01 06:13 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Hi Dot!

I thought it was fun writing that as well.

Shame it appears to be in the wrong thread now! I meant to reply to a post by Anna, but I think I booboo'ed somewhere...

Might be that I have multiple topics open...

Oh well.

SanC

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#556214 - 04/11/01 06:29 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Arlki
I enjoyed your post ! I was just joking!
I thought it was fun that after such a huge post you end up saying "so I can't say too much."



Anna is being picky in my opinion, we already have very deep study sims like F/A-18, Falcon and Flanker, so there's plenty of meat for HC simmers.
I think I'll enjoy a break with a simpler sim like Typhoon, and after all DID has done a very good job in the past.

Anna, If you always enjoyed DID sims, that are NOT study sims (you don't want to compare TAW and F/A-18, right?) I don't think you will be that much disappointed by Typhoon

let's wait the final game before judging.


brief sim history

F19 Stealth Fighter- A lifetime
TFX- thousand of hours
EF 2000- A lifetime
F 22- thousand of hours
TAW- a Lifetime
Falcon- thousand of hours
F/A-18- a lifetime, currently my addiction
Flanker- 2.5 learning.
F 15- learning

I alwaysliked DID's sims because they were generally simple and..innovative, I won't expect Typhoon to be so much different!

Enjoy!

Dot



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#556215 - 04/11/01 06:45 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Yep, the same virtual cockpit we are all familiar with from EF2000 and F22.


Leon, better qualify that. A lot of new posters don't know that the cockpit's static with non-working MFDs. It's NOT the same as TAW and EF2k. Some virtual pilots (self included) really hate that, and it's figuring into a "buy-not buy" decision (though for me, the inclusion of women is tilting the balance toward "buy" despite the fact I hate the cockpit with a burning purple passion).

The F1 handycam view is the same, with the popup MFDs. Folks need to be reminded of that-if they go in expecting IL-2/Flanker 2.0/or even USAF level cockpit detail they WILL be disppointed. Think Fighters Anthology on the cockpit, folks. If you're cool with that you won't be disappointed with Typhoon's cockpit.

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#556216 - 04/11/01 07:12 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Leon, better qualify that. Miao, Cat


Yep, sorry, I was referring to the virtual cockpit as a viewing system, not the instrument panel.

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#556217 - 04/11/01 07:36 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Just to be akward...

An EF2000 style cockpit would be on my wishlist for any sequel/add-ons for Typhoon.

Secondly, bad boy, have you read Total War 2006? Its by Simon Pearson. It was written as a thesis on air power, but its kinda entertaining too. It features some cool Typhoon action in it.

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#556218 - 04/11/01 07:59 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Secondly, bad boy, have you read Total War 2006? Its by Simon Pearson. It was written as a thesis on air power, but its kinda entertaining too. It features some cool Typhoon action in it.
Gavin


Thanks, that sound interesting, but I can't find it at Amazon.com. Do you have an ISBN or know where I can get a copy on the net?

Badboy

#556219 - 04/11/01 08:59 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Yep, the same virtual cockpit we are all familiar with from EF2000 and F22.


Leon, better qualify that. A lot of new posters don't know that the cockpit's static with non-working MFDs. It's NOT the same as TAW and EF2k. Some virtual pilots (self included) really hate that, and it's figuring into a "buy-not buy" decision (though for me, the inclusion of women is tilting the balance toward "buy" despite the fact I hate the cockpit with a burning purple passion).

The F1 handycam view is the same, with the popup MFDs. Folks need to be reminded of that-if they go in expecting IL-2/Flanker 2.0/or even USAF level cockpit detail they WILL be disppointed. Think Fighters Anthology on the cockpit, folks. If you're cool with that you won't be disappointed with Typhoon's cockpit.

Miao, Cat


Of course more often than not that's way way I'm sure most people flew TAW; with the full HUD view and the pop-up MFDs. The ONLY thing keeping you from flying like that all the time was the those pop-up MFDs did not provide all the info that the cockpit display did. Now they do.

If the rest of the game is good, I can't see how this a "buy or not buy "issue. But then that's just me.

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Of course more often than not that's way way I'm sure most people flew TAW; with the full HUD view and the pop-up MFDs.


Not moi. Not ever. That's too much like flying a Handycam for me. I rather like the "K" wide screen view, myself. I'd doubt that "most" people flew the Handycam view. If the producers are banking on that premise in their design decision they might be in for a rude awakening.

Miao, Cat


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#556221 - 04/11/01 09:28 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Hi Cat!

Umm... I flew handycam style.

Handycam normal width for dogfights, handycam widescreen for BVR combat. (Especially against multiple targets.)

Still got shot down lots of times though.

SanC

#556222 - 04/11/01 09:35 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Hi Dot!

Glad someone got to read that post.

Not sure whether I should be happy or sad that it didn't even warrant a "content removed". Took me a long time to write that... Wonder if it would have taken an admin bod as long to email me a reason why, especially as none of my own content was worthy of censorship.

Guess I know how a troll feels now.

Oh well.

#556223 - 04/11/01 11:35 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Sorry Cat, but I flew handy cam too. You get to see so much more that way, and it's a hell of a lot easier to land in that view!

#556224 - 04/12/01 03:58 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Okay, okay. Everyone but me flies without the cockpit.

Miao, Cat
(going back to more detailed sims)


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Okay, okay. Everyone but me flies without the cockpit.

Miao, Cat
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Hey sometimes you got to fly without the cockpit. It's a game being played on 17 to 19 inch screens; we're allowed

But really my point applies to the cockpit view as well. The pop-up MFDs keep you from having to pan down for information, or going to a full screen MFD; and taking your eyes away from the action in the process.

Heck I'm betting that in the real world it will go in that direction as well. The MFDs will be projected on the pilot's visor at some point along with the standard look down MFDs

#556226 - 04/15/01 09:01 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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To Badboy,Dot and Andy,

Thank You for adressing my questions. I appreciate the info. I haven`t been following Typhoon much and was a great supporter of Ef2000......dearly missed. The more I hear about this sim the more interested I become.
I love the "Dynamic Campaign" and hope Typhoon pulls it off....Cheers.


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#556227 - 04/15/01 11:08 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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Hey, as a matter of fact, the real Eurofighter has the IRST projected onto the HUD as well as the helmet as an overlay. That way you can 'see' outside the cockpit even when it's night time!

Not sure about the projecting of mfds onto the HUD ,but maybe the helmet.

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I flew the handy-cam view as well

I had to, otherwise my FPS would plummet on my older computer.

#556229 - 04/17/01 08:26 PM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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@ EF2K crazy:
In real EF2000 (german version)all important Data will be projected at the HMD (Helmet mounted Device),so the pilot do not need to look down at some MFDs.
Especially the ASRAAM Missile can be locked on a target and fired using only the HMD, not the HUD! (Same function we had in good ol EF2000 !) The MIG 29 from the former NVA , now in the german "Luftwaffe"do have a russion system mounted, which works similar,but without the Nightvision etc...
(As i ve been told from a german MIG29 pilot some years ago. )

#556230 - 04/18/01 10:08 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Imagine flying a real jet... to look at the MFD's you flip a hat switch and the panel lifts up in front of your nose, completely obscuring your view. Great for SA!

#556231 - 04/18/01 10:36 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  

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I know about the symbology in the HMS, but just not sure about MFD overlay in the HMS.

#556232 - 04/18/01 11:00 AM Re: Reliable opinion on Typhoon  
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Imagine flying a real jet... to look at the MFD's you flip a hat switch and the panel lifts up in front of your nose, completely obscuring your view. Great for SA!


I don't think it would be anywhere near as bad as you make it out.

1. The projected MFD info would not have to be so big as to obscure your view. Besides you'd only project those that were absolutely needed.

2. It wouldn't have the solid black background that the CRT MFD has. Even if they were projected as 5x5 inch squares, that would be pretty small compared to your field of view. Plus they'd probably be transparent. Except perhaps the IRST.

3. The projected MFDs (a long with the projected HUD symbology) would be giving you info about what's "out there" enhancing your SA. They're not going to be showing porn or something else distracting.

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