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#555893 - 03/21/01 10:49 PM Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Folks

Here's an example of the graphics that you can expect. I dropped my resolution down to 800x600 so these are not quite as sharp as I had been getting, but the HUD details are easier to read.

In the first shot, I'm pulling about 3 G so I have the pipper slightly in lead as I open fire...I then back off the back pressure a little and 'walk' the rounds down into the target.

In the second shot, look at the IRST in the left MFD. You can see the rounds exploding all along the Su fuselage!

The last shot shows the result...all I have to do now is avoid fragging myself with the debris!

The turning and burning in this game is really fun...much better than the average sim. And the AI doesn't have any of that silly target behavior that you sometimes see...like the MiG Alley and BOB porpoising (I suppose that's Rowan's idea of a gun kink!!). If you like scissoring then stand by for a heck of a game! My advice is get a heavy duty stick, because you're going to be fighting hard to beat these guys!







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#555894 - 03/21/01 11:11 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Standy by for the pics...my server's bogged down.

try this:

Go to:

http://www.doitnow.com/~alfakilo/gun1.jpg

The second pic is gun2.jpg, and the third is gun3.jpg.

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#555895 - 03/21/01 11:23 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Andy, seeing that explosion effect has just convinced me that I have already played this game, in the BAe Systems mock-up Typhoon cockpit at Farnborough last year...Projected onto a panoramic wall. I recall that I didn't want to put that one down either Say it is so, and I will pre-order my copy now!!


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#555896 - 03/21/01 11:51 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  

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AWE!

W-H-E-N-?-?

Dear Andy Bush.

When can we hope to have that beauty on our beloved hard drives ??


thx!

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#555897 - 03/22/01 12:40 AM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  

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LOVE the sparks in the IRST display, little touches like that increase the immersion factor much more!

#555898 - 03/22/01 02:53 AM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  

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Argh! - I would really like to see the pictures - Andy please get them to show up I dont know whats wrong

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#555899 - 03/22/01 03:23 AM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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amp

I don't either. Clearly some folks have gotten them...but I still cannot get them to show up on my machine. I'm stumped.
If someone has a site, I'll send them the files and they can post them here for you all.

Andy

#555900 - 03/22/01 05:02 AM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  

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A ouote from andy bush:
The turning and burning in this game is really fun...much better than the average
sim. And the AI doesn't have any of that silly target behavior that you sometimes see...like the MiG Alley and BOB porpoising (I suppose that's Rowan's idea of a gun kink!!). If you like scissoring then stand by for a heck of a game! My advice is get a heavy duty stick, because you're going to be fighting hard to beat these guys!

Well if you like turn and burn knife fight i could get that experienced in Flanker 2.x,every one here knows Flanker2.x is the best when it comes to gunzo knife fight and no one comes close to that even your new sim. i guess you tried it(Flanker2.x) Mr.Bush?



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#555901 - 03/22/01 05:09 AM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Nope. I just say stuff like that for the hell of it.

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#555902 - 03/22/01 05:36 AM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Andy, you funny boy .... send the pics to me and we will get them up in the directory I have set up for you.

What is a "ouote"? It is a shame that people have no understanding that opinions vary ... and "everyone here" knows the opinion of a real fighter pilot means nothing, right?


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#555903 - 03/22/01 06:18 AM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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All fixed up ... pics shoudl be visable now. Damn, that shot was from a ways out there old boy. Over 8000 feet? At .96 MACH? I think I need to stay out of on line fights with you!

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#555904 - 03/22/01 02:09 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  

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Andy and CRASH thanks for fixing the screenshots

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Just a quick question- why are color images (other than green ) showing up on your IRST display? Is that just a graphics glitch on your card, or is it something Rage still needs to fix before the game is finished/released?

#555906 - 03/22/01 03:29 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Dear Boss

Thanks for the help!

I think you may have misread the altitude as range. The shot is quite a bit closer than that. Note the gunsight analog ranging arc...as far as I know, this is not an indication of feet so much as it is a measure of effective gun range, ie, not an indicator of actual range, but system capability. With the arc at about the 2:30 position, I think it is saying you are well within optimum range.

So how far was the shot, I don't have a ruler, but I'd say (based on relative target size) somewhere around 1500-2000' perhaps. But you have a point...it's not a point blank shot either!

I BFM'd this guy around for a while until I managed to get this shot. In this game, this is tough to do. Reason? Too many other bad guys around...and when they see you tie up with one of their buddies, they are all over you like stink on doo-doo. Bandit AI is a bitch at times!

Gee...that almost sounds like real life!

Andy

#555907 - 03/22/01 03:37 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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I don't claim to be an expert on IRST displays...but this is what they look like as far as I know. The F-104 had an IR search system but it was not a 'scope' picture, so it doesn't count. The A-10 Maverick picture is more like an IRST in that it is an electro-optical image...both TV and IR versions. The Hog scope has a monochrome type of display, just like this.

Were you thinking that you would see a life-like picture...like you might get using a telescope? Not with an IRST. It works in a different part of the light spectrum.

Andy

#555908 - 03/22/01 04:48 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Quote from Andy Bush: "Typhoon Gun Kill"

Keep your voice down Andy.......shhhh

Isn't the real Eurofighter *minus* a 27mm Mauser to cut down on costs(1 Billion pounds is what i have read) Saying that the gun is obsolete in modern warfare what with the Eurofighter's large A/A payload.(which suggest's they aint going to throw this muti-million pound plane down the barrel of some couple of hundred thousand pounds AAA!)

When was the last time a fighter was shot down in modern time's by *guns* alone?? ie *after* the second world war.

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Andy,
What I was referring to is the fact that the IRST image, as shown in your series of screenshots is NOT a monochrome image, as I believe the real life infrared device's is. The screenshot shows images in the visible spectrum (ie black and grey smoke, orange fire) set against a green background. My question was is that just a graphics glitch on your card, or is it something Rage still needs to fix before the game is finished/released?

#555910 - 03/22/01 06:58 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Ahhh...I see! Sorry!! I misunderstood!

You are right...the targets in the IRST do explode with colored effect. Other than that, the IRST and TI images are prety much monochromatic.

I believe this is how the game is programmed. Probably intentional and done for 'gee whiz' purposes. It's not technically correct, I suppose, but, for me, not a big deal.

Andy

#555911 - 03/22/01 07:05 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Roger on the range vs. Alt ... I was looking at the circle, upper right. Since it didn't correspond to the alt reading in the text area below, I assumed .. there I go again. The descrepancy in the figures ... ASL vs AGL?




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#555912 - 03/22/01 07:17 PM Re: Typhoon Gun Kill  
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Tracer, the UK's 2nd batch of EF's (Tranche 2?) will have the cannon deleted, but the first batch was already ordered with it installed. They're not going to go back now and mess with the first order--too much paperwork!
Also, only the UK's jets will have it removed--are the EF's in Typhoon supposed to be solely RAF?
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