I certainly appreciate all the efforts in keeping EAW/UAW alive. Nicely done, and certainly under-appreciated.

As for myself, i have moved on to what I believe are better games, given better computers and far better graphics cards.

I still play UAW/EAW for fun, on occasion. It's necessary to play UAW/EAW on older, less capable computers nowadays; more modern computers have some problems, maybe not. I understand the effort of folks to make UAW/EAW viable with Win 10. I hope equally successful efforts concerning Win 11.

I play more advanced games, on a more modern platform, on a more regular basis. UAW/EAW/ is seldom selected by me. A fun, legacy game, with historical value, but not in the same class, either visually, or graphically, as with more modern games.

My sincere thanks to folks keeping EAW/UAW alive and "viable" even now. It's fun to look into the past, although the future is what we all will encounter, like it or not.

Agreed. I've enjoyed going back thru and seeing all that was done before I stumbled upon the game. Looks like I missed out a bit on the glory years in terms if people playing MP. Oh well. Glad I can enjoy the results still today.

I do hope some day a game developer/publisher will take a look at EAW and its holistic world and dynamic campaigns and atmosphere etc and bring its spirit into the modern age.

Sadly many flight sims today have superior graphics and fidelity but almost to a fault. DCS probably being the pinnacle of that. You need to give it some serious time and attention to learn one aircraft reasonably well and a good machine to really enjoy the visuals. Both of these reasons and the cost have kept me out of it.

IL2 Stalingrad and company notches that down a bit but still struggles with the whole having 100s of aircraft in the sky (and probably will never have 4 engined bombers or drop tanks) and doesn't really have a dynamic campaign (although the Finnish server does pretty good).

IL2 1946 I think is the closest to EAW but I believe even it can struggle a bit with aircraft numbers and campaign immersion and at this point has its own share of struggles on newer computers at times. However, it still seems to have a thriving community of modders and semi official support (although those two groups are often at odds sadly).

With that said, it all depends on my mood and what friend(s) are available to play as to what I'll pick out of the three.

Well, with a hat tip to Mr. Twain, the news of EAW's death has been greatly exaggerated.

A few of us are still at it, producing new aircraft, upgrading old ones, refining flight models, adding new weapons, making small refinements to the 1.6 development line and at least one new theater of operation.

Stay tuned, the fat lady has not sung.

... and what we produce will appear in a public release so that it is available to the community

Looking forward to it!

Combat Pilot is on the horizon, 18 months to 3 years away. Nice to have a new pacific flight sim on the way though.

DCS is my go to atm, Fw190 i'm still learning and the mission builder is fantastic and very intuitive. Easy to get 30 or so B17s with escorts in the air to practice gun runs on, and maxed out it is a stunning looking sim. Especially with the multitude of cloud and weather effects, best i've flown in.

Besides that their is Task Force Admiral which is my most anticipated game in a long time. Well worth reading through that site, the devs are making something great with this one.

We happy few!

And even the EAW Launchpad is still having fun with some updates of the older stuff and the latest creations for the Final Cut. Great to see everyone is happy and having fun!



VonBeerhofen

If we're gonna go Shakespearean then here's a couple of my favs -

"....it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind."

What a strange way to express your opinion about people, but good to know and very enlightening and mysterious too, thx! Sorry if I don't grasp who it's directed at. Feel free to explain.

VonBeerhofen

Nope, not going down that road, thx.

Well in that case here's my Shakespearean quote:

“All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players.”

I guess that puts all of us in our rightful place eh?

VonBeerhofen

Parting is such sweet sorrow, that I shall say good night till it be morrow.

Bye.

Not sure if I'll be around as we're flying a few on line missions again with EAWPRO and have some fun with above carrier, but I'll drop in from time to time to see if there's more 'interesting' stuff to read, Must dash, toodle pip!

VonBeerhofen

"He tasks me and I shall have him!"

Oft expectation fails, and most oft there where most it promises; and oft it hits where hope is coldest, and despair most fits.

VonBeerhofen

Keep the thread within the spirit off it please chaps. You know exactly what i mean.

My regrets for causing a kerfuffle. Always my respects for those who keep EAW alive, in all its' iterations.

As for myself, I much prefer more modern games with faster game speeds along with vastly better graphics.

Granted more modern computers and Gfx cards are required to play such games, but progress marches on....

I'll save my ancient Win 7 computer (highly upgraded) for EAW/UAW. I'll use my win 10/Win 11 computer for future games.

Might be possible to have it all.

All best wishes to all my friends!

Not an issue with your topic, or your post at all RIBob

I came across this article when searching to see if the EAW source code was available anywhere.
https://www.SimHQ.com/_air4/air_155print.html
No SC unfortunately, but this is a great bit of nostalgia.

+1

The EAW Code Group has had the EAW source code for some years now. This enabled development of 1.28 through the current 1.6.

Sorry guys but here was literally NO POINT to the thread other than to declare the death of the sim and you mods approved it.

The O.P.:


Reading comprehension is important.

RIBob states his appreciation of the efforts put into keeping EAW/UAW alive ( as in NOT DEAD ).
He opines it is nicely done and is under-appreciated, apparently by some others.
He states that he, himself, has moved on to what he believes are better games for the newer crop of computers & graphics cards.
He elaborates on his view, while indicating that he still plays UAW/EAW a small percentage of the time.
He expresses his thanks to "folks keeping EAW/UAW alive and "viable" even now".

That looks like a number of points to me, including that the sim is being kept alive ( as in NOT DEAD ).

There is nothing there for a moderator to object to.

Moderators are not here to be fact checkers. We are here to uphold SimHQ rules, and in the case of this sub-forum... attempt to keep a lid on the childish quarrels.

Then your post comes along:



Which was clearly a shot, and likely to stir up a quarrel.

RIBob's post wasn't the problem here. Yours, on the other hand, was.

The thread was absolutely fine until yourself and VB had to have little under the cover shots at each Rotton. My only quote regards that is ..let sleeping dogs lie.

Regards the death of EAW...the sim has been declared for so long now..yet it still continues, she's quiet, but the old lady keeps kicking and has many fond memories for nearly everyone that is still here at SimHQ that has spent time in and for most that still do. There was absolutely nothing wrong with RIBobs post, and it encouraged mostly good discusssion.

Great read. I noticed Mias skies in one of the screenshots, that was uncredited in the article. That was my favourite sky background mod from back in the day, very pretty work it was.

20 plus years was a long time ago. That was probably my last mission in EAW. Since then it has become a boutique playground. Though I do recall some amusing community anecdotes circa 2006..

Not terribly important now, I just wanted several geezers here to know that I do pop in from time to say "Hi" and see what's up.

Hello BP, good to see you're still around. Yeah I remember that time very vividly, must have been around the time the Code group went underground to work individually on their own theaters of choice, like project Rodnoc, SPAW and Spanish Air Wars and WWI. A pretty productive moment with lots of promise, but most fun for me personally was when all remaining squads were having fun in the EAW Launchpad between 2000 and 2005, after MSN groups closed down the gaming zone and pilots had to be rescued. My personal revival happened between 2010 and 2015 when I created my own squadron who re-energized my efforts to start working on the FXEXE again. I think I've been very lucky to have had another chance to meet new friends to fly and have fun with, after all the old ones disappeared. A few revisited a few times to say hello or wrote me an e-mail or P.M. and sometimes I wrote them to see how they were doing. I do miss some of them and hope they're still alright and kicking.

VonBeerhofen

Yes, some 18 years from that article's date.
The thing is that I'm not sure what I'd actually do with it, as the IP rights always belong to someone else. So, it would be added to my backlog of sim source code, like Mig Alley, EECH etc that I'll get around to one day.
I'd also have to pass the EAW Code Group's initiation ceremony...

My regrets if my previous post caused angst amongst some users. Not my intent whatsoever. I appreciate all the work done in updating the game and keeping it alive.