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#4628610 - 06/12/23 10:42 AM Kingdom Come Deliverance  
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Finally bought this on Saturday since it was heavily discounted. I've only put about 2 hours into it so far but I can already tell I will like this game mostly due to the attention to historical detail and just the overall atmosphere and immersion. My only complaint so far is that the voice acting and animation during cutscenes can get a bit campy/cheesy at times.


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#4628611 - 06/12/23 11:11 AM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Thanks for the reminder and favorable review.

I checked. It and its extra content are in my Steam Library.

I too bought it on sale a while back (April 2020). But, never played it. I have a lot of Steam games like that.


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#4628612 - 06/12/23 11:15 AM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: Allen]  
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Originally Posted by Allen


I too bought it on sale a while back (April 2020). But, never played it. I have a lot of Steam games like that.


I think it's called the "I am going to pretend I have all the free time I want to play this huge backlog of games so let me continue to buy more games" syndrome. biggrin


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#4628614 - 06/12/23 11:48 AM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
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I too bought it on sale a while back (April 2020). But, never played it. I have a lot of Steam games like that.


I think it's called the "I am going to pretend I have all the free time I want to play this huge backlog of games so let me continue to buy more games" syndrome. biggrin


An accurate statement. biggrin

Realistically, I've vastly overdone it. Many games have "died of old age" -- i.e. no longer worth playing due to outdatedness of mechanics and graphics -- or actual refusal to run on today's hardware.


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#4628615 - 06/12/23 12:21 PM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I played this game six months after release and it was really good. We had a long thread about it

Kingdom Come: Deliverance a half-year on

The terrain and villages/towns all felt quite authentic, even if I would expect life at that time to not be quite so sanitary, and expected something more reminiscent of the bring-out-your-dead scene from The Holy Grail. It was a game where I enjoyed traveling through the countryside so much I never used fast travel. It also has my favorite melee combat in any game. The shift over time from bumbling blacksmith's son to master swordsman was really cool. As Henry learned I did too and it all dovetailed quite nicely indeed. I thought the archery was not as well done. But overall a fine game.

I had noticed yesterday it was all on sale, and that there is quite a bit of DLC now. Does anyone have an opinion on that, and whether it would be worth another run with the DLC?


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#4628617 - 06/12/23 12:25 PM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: DBond]  
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Originally Posted by DBond


I had noticed yesterday it was all on sale, and that there is quite a bit of DLC now.




Yup, I got the "Royal Edition" for 10 bucks. I figure I will get a lot of bang for the buck with this game. About how many hours did it take you to finish the base game?


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#4628624 - 06/12/23 01:30 PM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by Allen


I too bought it on sale a while back (April 2020). But, never played it. I have a lot of Steam games like that.


I think it's called the "I am going to pretend I have all the free time I want to play this huge backlog of games so let me continue to buy more games" syndrome. biggrin


It is a special subset of "Retail Therapy" known as "Discount Therapy'.

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Originally Posted by CyBerkut

It is a special subset of "Retail Therapy" known as "Discount Therapy'.



LOL Yup! The worst case seems to be with EPIC. I know several people who have 50 or more games that they got completely free on EPIC but have yet to touch any of them.


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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by DBond


I had noticed yesterday it was all on sale, and that there is quite a bit of DLC now.




Yup, I got the "Royal Edition" for 10 bucks. I figure I will get a lot of bang for the buck with this game. About how many hours did it take you to finish the base game?


I don't recall, but the first time I completed it was somewhere around ~100 hours. That's a guess since I've played it since and am currently playing it again. This third one is taking longer because, one I'm not in a hurry and two there's a bunch of DLCs that I haven't played yet.

#4628637 - 06/12/23 02:03 PM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer

About how many hours did it take you to finish the base game?


Thanks to that thread I linked I can see it was 147 hours and I finished it.


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#4628638 - 06/12/23 02:06 PM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Originally Posted by CyBerkut

It is a special subset of "Retail Therapy" known as "Discount Therapy'.



LOL Yup! The worst case seems to be with EPIC. I know several people who have 50 or more games that they got completely free on EPIC but have yet to touch any of them.


Yeah, but FREE!!


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#4628660 - 06/12/23 07:59 PM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Yeah... but EPIC...

#4628662 - 06/12/23 09:09 PM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Finally bought this on Saturday since it was heavily discounted. I've only put about 2 hours into it so far but I can already tell I will like this game mostly due to the attention to historical detail and just the overall atmosphere and immersion. My only complaint so far is that the voice acting and animation during cutscenes can get a bit campy/cheesy at times.



how did you miss if free on epic?

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I'm tickled Epic is still around, decades after their cheesy shareware game beginning. I still remember their first ones that I found on BBS on 2400 bps modem...

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Originally Posted by Mr_Blastman
I'm tickled Epic is still around, decades after their cheesy shareware game beginning. I still remember their first ones that I found on BBS on 2400 bps modem...

I think Fortnite keeps them relevant. Plus their free give aways.

#4628679 - 06/12/23 11:53 PM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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I re-installed KCD to try to get back into and to also check on performance. I now have an SSD and an upgraded graphics card with 6GB and even with the newer hardware update compared to what I had before the game still runs terribly for me. It really has optimization issues. I've read posts where perhaps it has to do with the level of simulation going on in the game. I wish they had not used CryEngine. The only CryEngine game that I've ever played that was optimized and ran well is Prey. I was surprised at how well Arkane did with optimizing that game using a notoriously performance heavy engine although in comparison its a totally different game design. I love the music, the history, the quality of environments and the intriguing combat system but I don't know if I'll ever get through this game. I backed the game before release when they did their kickstarter or whatever it was. I was pleased to learn at the time that individuals who work at Warhorse helped develop some of my favorite games by Illusion Softworks such as Mafia and Hidden and Dangerous as well as the original Operation Flashpoint. Maybe in the future if I'm able to get a brand spanking new PC with super hardware I can finally enjoy the game. Right now with the lackluster performance as well as the time investment involved with this kind of open-ended, nuanced old school RPG I don't think the time for me is now with this game unfortunately.


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#4628680 - 06/13/23 12:11 AM Re: Kingdom Come Deliverance [Re: PanzerMeyer]  
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What are your specs, Coot? I was running KCD perfectly well on a 10 year old 3700K and 970 GTX with high to ultra high graphics settings and getting 60 or so fps, easy.

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I have 2015 core i7 4090k, 16GB ram with now an upgrade to an SSD, Windows 10 and a GTX 1660 super 6GB card. I really see no difference if not worse performance from when I had the old HDD drive, a GTX 970 4GB and Windows 7. I think it may have run better on Windows 7 which I miss. I can't stand Windows 10 in comparison plus Windows 10 has all but assured that many if not most of my older games can't be played now.

I've tried the usual attempts of lowering all settings and what have you with little to no change. My previous save had me in one of the bigger towns so I probably should have fast traveled away from there to the out of doors as I recall it usually ran better when away from towns. I wish I could get it running well. I was reminded of how good the writing and voice acting is too when I had my first sword training with that interesting character in Rattay Kingdom Come Deliverance. If I felt capable I would attempt to update my bios and so forth which has never been done to my knowledge but I don't know if any of that would help as other big games that I have still run just fine.


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I noticed that KCD could be finnicky about the screen mode.

If I ran in full screen, with a framerate limit in game and vsync on I would see 8-9 FPS and that even more choppy with animation of water and grass or in cutscenes... However, with the frame rate imposed from the GPU driver - vsync off (Gsync monitor) and in windowed I would see 30+ FPS and a much more fluid response overall. That was high enough for my needs, and I then set the balance of IQ and optimisations from the menu to get the best overall appearance without undue loss of performance - the main thing I did was to drop textures to medium to reduce the load on the HDD for streaming models in and for GPU memory (3.5+.5 on the 970).

It is certainly worth iterating through the display modes and vsync/framerate options to avoid the game engine 'thrashing' against the drivers - it is an older Cryengine version abused far beyond it's intended use and can get a bit funny about settings (I also avoid touching it's ingame gamma control, as it FUBARs windows gamma globally - but you can set this 'per title' through the GPU driver)... much of my initial experience was in the beta, and then release candidates, so I saw some... roughness that was reduced in the release version and patches, but the weakness of the optimisation to display mode did still appear to be a thing when I checked after the last main patch.

It is also worth checking that the GPU is in the correct PCIe mode - some issues were caused by a 1x or 2x mode reversion of the PCIe bus. - reseating the card, or changing PCIe slot would resolve this in a few cases (people with much stronger PCs getting worse performance in game than my (original i5 2400, GTX970, HDD system) - resolved by pulling and reseating the GPU - one after buying a new GPU, but then reverting and finding the 'old' one was now good.) I never had to do this, so I can't recall what or how to check, just that it had been a reported issue and resolution.

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Originally Posted by Blade_RJ
Originally Posted by PanzerMeyer
Finally bought this on Saturday since it was heavily discounted. I've only put about 2 hours into it so far but I can already tell I will like this game mostly due to the attention to historical detail and just the overall atmosphere and immersion. My only complaint so far is that the voice acting and animation during cutscenes can get a bit campy/cheesy at times.



how did you miss if free on epic?



I'd rather spend 10 bucks to have it on Steam than to have it for free on that crappy client called Epic.


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