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#4628511 - 06/10/23 06:01 PM Tipping in USA  
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This happen to me yesterday. Had dinner at Chinese restaurant, by myself.

I have seen this before on Reditt (example) https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfu...taurant_added_a_20_service_charge_for_a/ and Tik Tok but never experience it myself before.

I had the wonton appetizer and the chicken lo mein and soup is included.

$14 for lo mein and $6 for wonton

Total is $20 and they added tax, making it close to $22.

Then there was a line below it showing 20%, no writing saying it's a tip, a fee, nothing. Just 20% and it's taking 20% from $22, not 20% of $20.

At bottom they suggested tip with the smallest amount at 20%, then 25%, then 30%.with those percentage taken from the full amount that included the 20%.

I took out my iPhone and calculated the 20%, 25%, and 30% because I was suspicious they were incorrect. Every amount were even numbers with no cents.

I was correct in my suspicion, those suggested tip amounts were wrong.

I had the menu on the table and there was no 20% service fee printed in it.

Restaurant was busy. I left cash for $20 plus tax and because I didn't have any coins, I left $22 which is more than the actual amount.

Did not pay the 20% or added a tip.

Many restaurants include a tip for large groups or 5 or more.

But it's always printed on the menu.

This tipping is out of control now that every business has a tablet or terminal at the cashier for the customer to swipe their credit card, there is always a tip screen on those tablets.

You go to Starbucks and get a coffee and the screen is asking you how much you want to tip. I am not tipping for a coffee.

The person behind the counter at the dry cleaner is expecting a tip for spending 3 minutes of taking your dry cleaning ticket and finding your clean clothes (which is now as easy as pushing a button and the hanging clothes are on a track) and bringing them to you.

The Chick Fil A fast food drive through they come to your car with the tablet to take your credit card and there is a screen asking how much tip you want to add to the total amount.

I have even seen the tipping screen at the supermarket Self Checkout. So I am tipping myself then? That tip goes to me?

Uber and Lyft now wants tip.I took a Lyft home months ago when my car was being repaired. $23.

When the trip ended, the APP asked me to rate the driver and then wants me to add a tip: 18%-30%.

I don't tip the driver if I am not traveling and the driver help me with the luggage.

CBS news made a report about this tipping thing 2 days ago.

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#4628513 - 06/10/23 06:07 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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My understanding is you should tip waiters, but not cows, or bizarrely flies. Why prohibiting tipping flies is so important is a mystery as they tend to fly away when approached, tipping one seems far less likely than tipping a cow.

#4628514 - 06/10/23 06:10 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Tipping cows and flies? What are you talking about?

#4628515 - 06/10/23 06:18 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I draw the line at being asked for a tip in a DRIVE THROUGH.

And I consider 15% plenty unless the waitress is exceptionally good.


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#4628521 - 06/10/23 07:11 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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My rule is simple:

If I sit down at a restaurant and a waiter or waitress services me by taking my order, delivering my food and keeping my water filled, and they do a good job with a friendly personality, I will leave a 20% tip.

Otherwise, if I'm picking up takeout, or buying something anywhere else that is not a sit down meal, I do not leave a tip.

Valets are the exception. Always tip your valet if you want your car coming back undamaged.

I will also tip my barber if they are talkative, friendly and do a good job. I respect that kind of work.

The point is, they have to earn the tip. Standing at a register is not earning a tip.

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#4628523 - 06/10/23 07:51 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I don’t like the on the computer tips. They usually start at 20% going up to 30%. If they are going to have pre-established tip percents they should be 10%,15%, and 20%. As it is they are pushing up the tip amount.

Agree with what others said about when to tip.


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#4628530 - 06/10/23 09:30 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I never use the tip prompts because they invariably include tipping on the tax and I have no problem whatsoever just refusing to tip if I am taking out. The old expression, "give them an inch and they will take a mile" certainly applies.


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#4628538 - 06/11/23 12:15 AM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I will tip %20 or more, if the service if good. %15 if it was just OK. Some people rely on their tips because their wage is low.
I don't generally tip for take out. The one exception is the Pizza place in town, it is so bloody hot in there, during the summer, I always give them a generous tip. They are very friendly people. One time the power was out, but they were still able too cook pizza. They told me to just come back the next day, interact was down.


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#4628545 - 06/11/23 08:19 AM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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We make a deal with the person serving us.

We say we'll pay, for example, $40 for the meal -- if it costs $40 or $0. We won't take change. The "change" is their tip -- be it $40 or $0.

Then we order a non-standard mix of meat and vegetables -- so the price is something they have to calculate (i.e. we give them some "power" over the price)..

Often we get a significant discount on the "price" (making a larger "tip") -- e.g. a normally $32 bill becomes a $22 bill (or less) giving them an $18 tip on $22 (~80% tip).

The server is happy; and, we're happy to make them happy. They watch for our future return. And give great service. biggrin


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#4628550 - 06/11/23 12:49 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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A lot of this excessive tipping madness started after the COVID lockdowns. Many restaurants are still trying to recoup their losses.


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#4628557 - 06/11/23 02:02 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I just don't like places that automatically add the %15.
Most of the time it is there loss, I probably would have tipped more.


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#4628559 - 06/11/23 02:54 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Fly tipping, it's basically dumping your rubbish at the side of the road illegally. And cow tipping is just that, supposed to be fun . Think there's also a game called it.

Putting me off visiting over that side of the pond, all this talk of tipping. Was reading that even Maccies asks for a tip. Madness.

#4628563 - 06/11/23 04:06 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: WangoTango]  
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Originally Posted by WangoTango
I just don't like places that automatically add the %15.
Most of the time it is there loss, I probably would have tipped more.


I think that some places have been using this for parties of bigger groups for a while. I've heard stories from people that have worked as waiters/waitresses about large groups coming in, being very demanding, and then leaving no tip at all. I've known people that won't tip the pizza guy when he delivers. These type of people seem to get their jollies from doing it. There is no shortage of jerks out there.

Myself, I tip 15% for typical service, but 20% or higher if the service is really good.

#4628570 - 06/11/23 04:56 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: LB4LB]  
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Originally Posted by LB4LB
I've heard stories from people that have worked as waiters/waitresses about large groups coming in, being very demanding, and then leaving no tip at all.

We used to get a large weekly church group who came for lunch after services and would never leave a tip.


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#4628576 - 06/11/23 05:36 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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I usually pay my bill on credit card, write in "cash" for the tip and leave my tip in cash on the table. Then it's up to the waitress to report, or not, how much was left.


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#4628586 - 06/11/23 10:17 PM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: Herman]  
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Originally Posted by Herman

We used to get a large weekly church group who came for lunch after services and would never leave a tip.



Quite the irony huh?


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#4628594 - 06/12/23 12:47 AM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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Probably stiffed the collection plate, too.


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#4628687 - 06/13/23 02:41 AM Re: Tipping in USA [Re: NoFlyBoy]  
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None of this tipping nonsense would be needed if we could just pay people a fair wage.


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Originally Posted by ArgonV
None of this tipping nonsense would be needed if we could just pay people a fair wage.


True, I suppose, but most of the GOOD waiters/waiters I’ve known made far, far more with tips than they would if they were making a flat $15 or $20/hour. Enough that they only had to work 3 nights a week. There’d probably be some provision written into the law allowing employers to cut their hours or make them pay for their uniform rental/cleaning if they’re in a chain restaurant, too.


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A "fair wage" is one that an employee agreed to when they took the job.


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